@DASPEN666Devil I hope someone gets to a point that the quality is enough.. come on! see a tree (a fucking tree) at a resolution of 4500x2700? Im fine with a res of 1600x1200 already unless im a dude that nned 2500x1600!
This statement is one of someone that just wants the 'good enough', it's fine to have that view.
But the people that change the world and improve everything don't see your viewpoint. The world is hugely complicated, sure we will reach a point where graphics are at the optimum point, but all that will allow is for developers to focus on the game and story more.
In the end, why do you have 1600x1200? 1280x1024 was 'good enough' 10 years ago. Why stop there? 640x480 was 'good enough' too :)
Of course 640x480 was good enough but there will be a limit at a time of the biggest resolution graphics scheme etc... cones to a top or end. but still.
"The world is hugely complicated, sure we will reach a point where graphics are at the optimum point, but all that will allow is for developers to focus on the game and story more."
EPIC WIN MAIT THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT CLEARED STUFF FROM ME.
@Bobzilla183 (dude your answeing me and its like 6:30 am here in my country lol! Im oversleeping kinda had a big operation yesterday and cant sleep with the pain =( ))
Yes, they do. Video games are a form of escapism, you COULD go out into a war, but no-one would do so compared to putting on call of duty for example. If video games look exactly like the real world, then all the better.
@Bobzilla183 But you will have to stop into mimetizing the real wolrd woudnt you? that will be the top... woudnt it...? youll have to buy no more hardware then and DX will stop... Foward to that.. what next? IT would be cool that you can experiment the War as if it was a game. Thas why i emphatized on what else do you need. What else could you achieve? If they keep going the companies would stop developing that kind of hardware because theyre at the top (that will be not that soon)
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are you realy sure about that?
i have a nvidia 9800gtx and i just watched my dxdiag and it said ''DirectX-version: DirectX 11'' it came to with windows update to my vista rig (just like vista sevice pack 2) so would everybody stop whining about that ATI is the only one with DirectX 11
DX11 is software AND HARDWARE. while somethings can be done with hardware to create a standard for the developers. Some features need hardware support. Without it you WILL NOT be DX11 complaint.
But you're right, people should not worry about it as normally DX upgrades happen devs don't program just for the new API, however make no mistake they "could" do that. This is why the X800XT wont run Bioshock. which is a DX9b card and a DX9c Game.
what they mean is only ati currentyl have cards that fully support dx 11 , some aspects of dx 11 are compatible with dx 10 cards which is why you can install dx 11 on a computer with a dx 10 card , but you wont get some features like , direct compute until you get a dx11 card , it can be a bit confusing
Who care`s, the games first need to be better programmed before they get new graphics. Look at GTA4 PC or ArmA, nice Graphic, but so crappy programmed that it even lags out a High End PC... sucks
I agree but take gta4 off that list,i get 45 to 60 fps solid on my i7 rig no problems watch any of my videos graphics are smooth an cranked up.I cann't speak for Arma thou.I'd say bad programmin shows in fallout 3 ,AoC, an most PC games on release but after a patch or two things usually get better.
@bigdog813 you sir, have not played crysis. at least on high settings. Crysis looks awesome. (until you start supersampling, then it starts looking like a slideshow)
well, since you are such a pro they you probly know that the same effect has been possible to generate for all the way back to the days of Dx 6 and that this can offcourse be DX 11, because the stuff that changes from generation to generation if direct X inst its visuals but its ability to generate the visuals faster and using less computing power ;)
@Protech14 No. Before DX11 you could not do this. I'm not explaining why, because a smart person would find this out himself, and a stupid person would just RAGE - which is what I'm hoping for. :D
@AntiStupidity Yes. You could do this way before DX11. This demo is only showing what the compute shader pipeline can be used for. FFT based water simulations have been done in realtime for many years back.
mogloby sie ruszac nierownomiernie tyle ze niepowtarzany schemat wymaga wiecej mocy od ukladu Physics-dx11 i akceleratory dx11 podobno maja to pociagnac
Tak skrecajac w inna strone widze te nowosci i ni mnie juz nie rusza. Stare gry bez tych rzeczy miały taki niesamowity klimat. Odkąd na dobre wszedł marketing i pomienianie kart co jakis okres, wszystko utracilo na jakosci...
lol truly not.. if what you say is right.. then this will be the last DX version and there will be no dx12 and such. im pretty sure that in the future.. more will be out.. better
...not really, this is way more advanced than even the cryengine water. Cryengine2's water is the est lookin water in games currently. but imagine that water compared to cryengine's u would see a huge diff xD
once they get stereoscopic 3d then they just need to get the resolution to the human eye and then its as real as real life gets. get this.. the human eye resolution in terms of pixels like a monitor for a 20 x 13.3-inch print viewed at 20 inches is 10600x7000, or 74 megapixel and the most a monitor can give at that size is 1680 x 1050 so we got a long way to go maybe to fit that enormous amount of pixels in a small screen.
lol you wont need anti aliasing at that resolution because the eye wont be able to detect any details. no matter how thin a string is you wont see jagged edges lol like in real life.
like in real life? - u can't compare that ... ofc u can say that a big enough resolution will make it almost impossible to perceive single pixels but there are no pixels in real life :)
well you can pretend pixels in real life are atoms. so you can't see them but they make the images everywhere. so when resolution is high enough you don't see pixels but detailed looking things like in real life! :) i think i did a good analogy there...
directx 11 is incredibly close to life-like graphics. but i wonder.... after it gets to the point of realism to the human eye (no point is making it more detailed than a human can see) whats next?
I've been thinking the same thing myself. You can't make things look more realistic than complete realism. You can continue to improve I suppose, but will you even be able to notice the difference if it already looks real?
yeah actually you are right yuri, the 2d screen can never achieve perfect realism since we use 2 eyes which are 2 points of views combined to 1 in our minds which makes 3d to us. the solution would be splitting the screen in 2 and show the game on both sides from different angle kinda how u see S3d now or with some special glasses? not sure. but i did read this: "At Microsoft Advance 2008 in May James Cameron announced that Ubisoft has a stereoscopic 3D game for the Xbox 360." should be cool.
For example first they will be able to make a life like room, then a house, a neighborhood, a country and even the entire earth at once, without loading ^^
GTX 280, as good as the card is, it's DX10, not DX11 and I don't see the word "emulated" anywhere so I'm inclined to agree with
AxelLNo1. Nvidia also has a long history of "not agreeing with the standards", and trying to push their own (CUDA is one example).
Even if it's DX10 it's awesome, even if the ran down an algorythm on the GTX280 to emulate DX11 (with the subsecuent performace degrade you wont see since there are no comparisons or fps meter), it still look very good. Heck I wanna swim.
I mean that it is not so jaw dropping at all. And DX11 is not out yet, and even if it did got out, the current Nvidia products are not very compatible with it's new features. Ati would be a better choice to demonstrate its glory over DX10. That is why I think it's an April 1 joke.
Crysis with natural mod looks like this. I was playing Crysis DX9 on WinXP and using the Natural Mod Patch. I think they dont need to advance to DX11 to make the water looks like the one in the video. Im sure about this because i played crysis on DX9 with natural mod and the water was almost like this.
Your video is a favorite on Doha
pacquiaovsmarquezIV 2 weeks ago
Odd responses for this video once again.
rickmcclure1229 1 month ago
My computer would smoke if it tried to do this ...
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I think that was generated running AMD Radeon
because only radeon currently support Direct X 11
MrDarkTemples 11 months ago
I think that was generated running AMD Radeon
because only radeon currently support Direct X 11
MrDarkTemples 11 months ago
@MrDarkTemples Nvidia ceated demo for AMD hardware? I doubt that. Besides, GTX 480 and newer cards support DX 11 as well as OpenGL 4.
Reloaded211 10 months ago
@MrDarkTemples Are you sure you aren't in 2009? Nvidia has had DX11 cards and DDR5 since they released the GTX400 series.
Cursefire 6 months ago
DX9C can do this exact thing. MS rip off :P
s5SnipEmo 1 year ago
Is there a demo to download?
Abb4d0n 1 year ago
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DASPEN666Devil 2 years ago
@DASPEN666Devil I hope someone gets to a point that the quality is enough.. come on! see a tree (a fucking tree) at a resolution of 4500x2700? Im fine with a res of 1600x1200 already unless im a dude that nned 2500x1600!
DASPEN666Devil 2 years ago
This statement is one of someone that just wants the 'good enough', it's fine to have that view.
But the people that change the world and improve everything don't see your viewpoint. The world is hugely complicated, sure we will reach a point where graphics are at the optimum point, but all that will allow is for developers to focus on the game and story more.
In the end, why do you have 1600x1200? 1280x1024 was 'good enough' 10 years ago. Why stop there? 640x480 was 'good enough' too :)
Bobzilla183 2 years ago
If you don't want improvements, then don't upgrade your computer ever again :) but i can't see you doing that.
You're a human being, human being have NEVER settled for 'ggod enough' as a race during their whole existence.
Bobzilla183 2 years ago
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Of course 640x480 was good enough but there will be a limit at a time of the biggest resolution graphics scheme etc... cones to a top or end. but still.
"The world is hugely complicated, sure we will reach a point where graphics are at the optimum point, but all that will allow is for developers to focus on the game and story more."
EPIC WIN MAIT THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT CLEARED STUFF FROM ME.
DASPEN666Devil 2 years ago
@Bobzilla183 (dude your answeing me and its like 6:30 am here in my country lol! Im oversleeping kinda had a big operation yesterday and cant sleep with the pain =( ))
DASPEN666Devil 2 years ago
Yes, they do. Video games are a form of escapism, you COULD go out into a war, but no-one would do so compared to putting on call of duty for example. If video games look exactly like the real world, then all the better.
Bobzilla183 2 years ago
@Bobzilla183 But you will have to stop into mimetizing the real wolrd woudnt you? that will be the top... woudnt it...? youll have to buy no more hardware then and DX will stop... Foward to that.. what next? IT would be cool that you can experiment the War as if it was a game. Thas why i emphatized on what else do you need. What else could you achieve? If they keep going the companies would stop developing that kind of hardware because theyre at the top (that will be not that soon)
DASPEN666Devil 2 years ago
@DASPEN666Devil But in the meanwhile youll need to get actualized with new offers new software etc... etc...
DASPEN666Devil 2 years ago
only ati has dx11 for now
Arekai1404 2 years ago
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are you realy sure about that?
i have a nvidia 9800gtx and i just watched my dxdiag and it said ''DirectX-version: DirectX 11'' it came to with windows update to my vista rig (just like vista sevice pack 2) so would everybody stop whining about that ATI is the only one with DirectX 11
upkiller12 2 years ago
then i feel sorry for you that u bought that nvidia card.
Arekai1404 2 years ago
DX11 is software AND HARDWARE. while somethings can be done with hardware to create a standard for the developers. Some features need hardware support. Without it you WILL NOT be DX11 complaint.
But you're right, people should not worry about it as normally DX upgrades happen devs don't program just for the new API, however make no mistake they "could" do that. This is why the X800XT wont run Bioshock. which is a DX9b card and a DX9c Game.
SlyNine 2 years ago
what they mean is only ati currentyl have cards that fully support dx 11 , some aspects of dx 11 are compatible with dx 10 cards which is why you can install dx 11 on a computer with a dx 10 card , but you wont get some features like , direct compute until you get a dx11 card , it can be a bit confusing
Skankyandy 2 years ago
@upkiller12
u are so stupid :D:D lol
Mishi22 2 years ago
Fun that the Radeon 5800 cards is double as fast as GTX285 in this test that it's nVidia's own testprogram
hohaii 2 years ago
PLEASE HELP ME.. i have GTX285 SSC and interesting me, if there graphic card have a DirectX 10.1 ??? you know ?
ardetbay23 2 years ago
no it doesnt have dx10.1
just ATI cards support that feature!!!
oOViP94Oo 2 years ago
lies? cause the nvidia geforce 210 has it.....
yourmomwuzhere 2 years ago
omg
these cards arnt really graphic cards
they are sooooo bad!!!!
oOViP94Oo 2 years ago
1 april ;)
SeeDv1 2 years ago
and dont forget, this is REALTIME.
ultima3210 2 years ago
Who care`s, the games first need to be better programmed before they get new graphics. Look at GTA4 PC or ArmA, nice Graphic, but so crappy programmed that it even lags out a High End PC... sucks
NeoJD 2 years ago 17
I agree but take gta4 off that list,i get 45 to 60 fps solid on my i7 rig no problems watch any of my videos graphics are smooth an cranked up.I cann't speak for Arma thou.I'd say bad programmin shows in fallout 3 ,AoC, an most PC games on release but after a patch or two things usually get better.
LEADLAYER420 2 years ago
Its like Crysis
nikital95 2 years ago
way better....
bigdog813 2 years ago
@bigdog813 you sir, have not played crysis. at least on high settings. Crysis looks awesome. (until you start supersampling, then it starts looking like a slideshow)
duhduhduhduhduh 2 years ago
your telling me what i have and have not played shut the fuck up
bigdog813 2 years ago
The ONLY bad thing i can say about it, is that it looks tiled, otherwise its almost perfect.
psarlay 2 years ago
that is really cool!!!!!!
God I love free enterprise.
xboxguy727 2 years ago
NO FUCKING WAY :))))
balamshir 2 years ago 2
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is isnt Dx11 becouse this efect can do Dx 9 and 10
i know becouse I DO GAMES
DioXsx 2 years ago
well, since you are such a pro they you probly know that the same effect has been possible to generate for all the way back to the days of Dx 6 and that this can offcourse be DX 11, because the stuff that changes from generation to generation if direct X inst its visuals but its ability to generate the visuals faster and using less computing power ;)
Protech14 2 years ago 16
@Protech14 No. Before DX11 you could not do this. I'm not explaining why, because a smart person would find this out himself, and a stupid person would just RAGE - which is what I'm hoping for. :D
AntiStupidity 1 year ago
@AntiStupidity Yes. You could do this way before DX11. This demo is only showing what the compute shader pipeline can be used for. FFT based water simulations have been done in realtime for many years back.
Leafteaner 1 year ago
@AntiStupidity water simulations could be done before, DX11's compute shader only allows us to make it look better or raise the performance.
Cursefire 6 months ago
@Protech14 PLEASE do better english
xxBlackpspxx 1 year ago
@Protech14 You obviously don't know shit about what DirectX actually is meant to be.. No offense, just impression from reading your comment.
Morr1992 7 months ago
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practice ur grammar bitch
STFU A HOLE
naochiMalmsteen 2 years ago
Can I get this as a looping video, sooo nice. If dream scene wasn't crap I would be all over this.
MultiMonitor 2 years ago 2
Niby wow ale widac ze to równomierne jest hehe, kiedy random wkroczy do akcji w tych linijkowatych schematycznych grach itp
mt2048 2 years ago
mogloby sie ruszac nierownomiernie tyle ze niepowtarzany schemat wymaga wiecej mocy od ukladu Physics-dx11 i akceleratory dx11 podobno maja to pociagnac
club4ghz 2 years ago
Tak skrecajac w inna strone widze te nowosci i ni mnie juz nie rusza. Stare gry bez tych rzeczy miały taki niesamowity klimat. Odkąd na dobre wszedł marketing i pomienianie kart co jakis okres, wszystko utracilo na jakosci...
mt2048 2 years ago
Don't be to excited, this water is not interactive - it's just "statistics computation" plus perlin noise...
I doubt it will be simple to implement interactivity to such water...
Anyway, DX11 Compute Shader opens almost infinite possibilities for game designers, not only in graphics, but in AI too... Let's wait and see...
eliotcougar 2 years ago
lol truly not.. if what you say is right.. then this will be the last DX version and there will be no dx12 and such. im pretty sure that in the future.. more will be out.. better
LiamPearlDrumsInsane 2 years ago
I CAN'T WAIT TIL DX11 COMES OUT :D
xxzxcxxmetwin 2 years ago
:O "jaw drops"
prosnowboardr 2 years ago
awesome!!
YellowLeader1 2 years ago
Looks like CryENGINE Water
xWSxCriminalx 2 years ago
a bit but it gets computed in another way...
Tohinho1995 2 years ago
...not really, this is way more advanced than even the cryengine water. Cryengine2's water is the est lookin water in games currently. but imagine that water compared to cryengine's u would see a huge diff xD
I9kieran94 2 years ago 2
woderful
xameleon13 2 years ago
Wonderful. I am waiting for Silent Hunter 5 now.
PhotoPlankton 2 years ago
ähhm... wow!?
pommesundwurst 2 years ago
once they get stereoscopic 3d then they just need to get the resolution to the human eye and then its as real as real life gets. get this.. the human eye resolution in terms of pixels like a monitor for a 20 x 13.3-inch print viewed at 20 inches is 10600x7000, or 74 megapixel and the most a monitor can give at that size is 1680 x 1050 so we got a long way to go maybe to fit that enormous amount of pixels in a small screen.
ezprezzo44 2 years ago
Personally I find aliasing to be something that really breaks the realism factor for me. Imagine the overhead of anti-aliasing 10600x7000 pixels...
metalmidget89 2 years ago
lol you wont need anti aliasing at that resolution because the eye wont be able to detect any details. no matter how thin a string is you wont see jagged edges lol like in real life.
ezprezzo44 2 years ago 2
touche
metalmidget89 2 years ago
like in real life? - u can't compare that ... ofc u can say that a big enough resolution will make it almost impossible to perceive single pixels but there are no pixels in real life :)
symelian 2 years ago
well you can pretend pixels in real life are atoms. so you can't see them but they make the images everywhere. so when resolution is high enough you don't see pixels but detailed looking things like in real life! :) i think i did a good analogy there...
ezprezzo44 2 years ago 2
lol
Hunger4Power 2 years ago
there are atoms suspended in the are that light passes through, like pixels
tenshitaiakuma 2 years ago
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who gives a crap
hitmanhornster 2 years ago
directx 11 is incredibly close to life-like graphics. but i wonder.... after it gets to the point of realism to the human eye (no point is making it more detailed than a human can see) whats next?
ezprezzo44 2 years ago
I've been thinking the same thing myself. You can't make things look more realistic than complete realism. You can continue to improve I suppose, but will you even be able to notice the difference if it already looks real?
manofpopsicle516 2 years ago 3
Well there is always hyperrealism :P.
Bombastrelopas 2 years ago
Or can you?
brendanvista 2 years ago
stereoscopic 3d
yuriythebest 2 years ago
yeah actually you are right yuri, the 2d screen can never achieve perfect realism since we use 2 eyes which are 2 points of views combined to 1 in our minds which makes 3d to us. the solution would be splitting the screen in 2 and show the game on both sides from different angle kinda how u see S3d now or with some special glasses? not sure. but i did read this: "At Microsoft Advance 2008 in May James Cameron announced that Ubisoft has a stereoscopic 3D game for the Xbox 360." should be cool.
ezprezzo44 2 years ago
I game in 3d using the iz3d monitor- google it. Another solution is geeforce 3d vision
yuriythebest 2 years ago
hopefully some creativity lol
Killerhurts1337 2 years ago
Making the world bigger and bigger.
For example first they will be able to make a life like room, then a house, a neighborhood, a country and even the entire earth at once, without loading ^^
alontorres 2 years ago 2
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SukhoiSu37Terminator 2 years ago 5
this looks amazing
Maux4200 2 years ago 3
dente
billyneidison 2 years ago
Very nice!
TomiSkateBoy 2 years ago 2
euhm I play crysis on vh and the water does NOT I repeat does not look like that.
aXque 2 years ago 3
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crysis had the same water effects with dx10 .......lol @ nvidia
Braverocker 2 years ago
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Crysis doesn't use DX10. And the effects are not the same. But they look nearly the same with tweaking.
raxxor18 2 years ago
Crysis use dx10
Nightcover 2 years ago 6
Are you stupid? Crysis uses DX10, but only on Vista (Obviously) and it only looks slightly better and takes a big performance hit.
MBFtrace 2 years ago 3
Very impressive demonstration of physics. It looks like CFD is entering games big time.
BrightSideofNews 2 years ago 3
dx is overrated since dx10. dx9 ftw.
zet666 2 years ago
It was more poorly implemented than overrated.
ish718 2 years ago 3
Well, i can make that ocean in 3ds max and play it in unreal engine easily... nothing special.
solidox113 2 years ago
Yeah, have to say there are a couple current engines with better water. But it's just an example of what the compute shader can be used for
Leafteaner 2 years ago 2
Ati did it in 2006 without dx11.... nvidia rotfl!!!
simbus82 2 years ago
kthxbai
triFeral 2 years ago
GTX 280, as good as the card is, it's DX10, not DX11 and I don't see the word "emulated" anywhere so I'm inclined to agree with
AxelLNo1. Nvidia also has a long history of "not agreeing with the standards", and trying to push their own (CUDA is one example).
Even if it's DX10 it's awesome, even if the ran down an algorythm on the GTX280 to emulate DX11 (with the subsecuent performace degrade you wont see since there are no comparisons or fps meter), it still look very good. Heck I wanna swim.
adnelortiz 2 years ago
Well...Holy shit!
CrusherFTW 2 years ago 2
what else ?
vince2010091 2 years ago
Is this an April 1 joke? :)
AxelLNo1 2 years ago
what joke? Crysis game has almost the same visual effect not far away at all...
hazzard82 2 years ago
I mean that it is not so jaw dropping at all. And DX11 is not out yet, and even if it did got out, the current Nvidia products are not very compatible with it's new features. Ati would be a better choice to demonstrate its glory over DX10. That is why I think it's an April 1 joke.
AxelLNo1 2 years ago
Very nice!
W3rNax 2 years ago 3
1st april isn't it ?
Levak92 2 years ago
well... i never thougt its possible to render water like this with a pc O_o
TheCrazyGamerGuy01 2 years ago
no different form real water
fiercekid84 2 years ago 2
omfg.. this is freaking awesome
matthewSK 2 years ago 2
OMFG!
felipefritschf 2 years ago
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eso es truchisimo
lucasnick18 2 years ago
Simply beautiful.
SukhoiSu37Terminator 2 years ago 2
Esse video não é em tempo real galera.
LCNitro 2 years ago
Uma merda. Faço isso desde 2003 no Maya.
hpitogordo 2 years ago
Idiota. Isso é em tempo real o babaca.
llino07 2 years ago
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Maldita Inclusão digital.
Crysis é mais bonito q esse samplezinho aí...
hpitogordo 2 years ago
WHAT?!
kossikenguru911 2 years ago
Fraco, padrão repetitivo, só tem umas rugosidades a mais.
Video pega trouxa.
Ciao
deathdoor 2 years ago
crysis do that, and silent hunter a little bit of that too
twisterbr 2 years ago
Crysis with natural mod looks like this. I was playing Crysis DX9 on WinXP and using the Natural Mod Patch. I think they dont need to advance to DX11 to make the water looks like the one in the video. Im sure about this because i played crysis on DX9 with natural mod and the water was almost like this.
erickchba2 2 years ago
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wow wow wow
RE4L72 2 years ago
Holy shit; and I thought Crysis' water looked good O_O
tehdaza 2 years ago 2
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wow. looks like something coming out of cryengine 3 lol.
Razear 2 years ago
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this was probobally done on some tesla
c1060 or a tesla s1070
tenshitaiakuma 2 years ago
Absolutely amazing! and a little spooky. Can we even trust our eyes anymore?
mikeashleigh777 2 years ago 6
very cool
1800Allen 2 years ago 5
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of course with an nvidia vga :D
StrongerThenYOU1923 2 years ago
looks cool
silentpower415 2 years ago 7