And the teabaggers hate it when you bring up astro turfing.I live in A place he came to and have been to many of these big coal company party's he was talking about.After I wouldn't go to one of those things if I had to.
I just got blocked from the tea party's official web site.They hate when you bring up this movie.Ha ha.I really thought the show was well made.And illuminating.
Here is irony: I went to a rally against the ObamaCare takeover. All the "Astroturfers came in their own cars, and paid for their own gas. The ObamaCare supporters all arrived in chartered busses. I was also at a Town Hall meeting. again the "Astroturfers arrived in their own cars, the ObamaCare supporters (mostly SEIU members) arrived in busses, grouped together, got orders on what to do, were let in early to fill the front of the meeting area and as a group, bullied people.
You are the only one brainwashed.... too stupid to realize that you have been played for a fool... the rest of the world knows you and your tea is shit... no right winger has ever uttered any fact... you live on lies.
@ReligionIsSophistry Funny, I've recieved no money from anyone, but you Liberals are demanding more from me, I've paid for everything myself, but you liberals got things paid for you. And idiots like you call me an Astroturfer. You've pointed out who is brainwashed and stupid.
@ReligionIsSophistry Funny, I've recieved no money from anyone, but you Liberals are demanding more from me, I've paid for everything myself, but you liberals got things paid for you. And idiots like you call me an Astroturfer. You've pointed out who is brainwashed and stupid.
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I bought the movie but couldn't watch it all! It was really good (the first 40 minutes that I saw!) but it kept stopping and returning to the start over and over and would freeze if you tried to fast forward to your spot! Terrible!!!
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Does this man know what libertarianism is??? Libertarians don't defend corporate interest, they defend the market... actually some of them are against corporate personhood as it is a government license. Libertarians also see a vital role for government in regulating externalities, the courts, the police, the fire department etc... I am a libertarian who believes in a public option along with school vouchers (which leftists seem to be against). They are also against the (very pro corporate) Fed.
@bonfirejovi For a while I considered myself libertarian but by this country's definition of it, I'd be more a social libertarian.
I have many friends who are libertarian, though, and the number one thing we disagree on is the role of corporations. I believe in safeguards and regulation to prevent the private sector from abusing its power. But most libertarians seem to believe that markets regulate themselves. I think our corporations are out of control and seriously damaging the country.
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Sigh. I am getting tied of being told by lefties that I've been 'fooled' by 'propaganda.'
DAMNIT, I have NOT been fooled. I know EXACTLY what I believe, WHY I believe it, and I also UNDERSTAND the implications. Stop treating me like I'm some goddamned monkey. If you think the 'megacorp propaganda machine' is evil, then, damnit, show enough respect to say that I'M EVIL TOO.
@twk373 Nobody thinks they are themselves evil. And knowing what you "believe" is immaterial. I "know" that "I believe" I am the worlds greatest lover. But belief is a poor substitute for evidence and it is possible that I have been fooled :) Everyone can be fooled if they are told what they want to hear. When you find yourself saying things like "I know EXACTLY what I believe", take a step back and ask yourself a better question: Do you know EXACTLY how things are?
@twk373 there were price controls on food and fuels for decades and there were no shortages. gasoline was $.349, and price controlled milk was delivered to a box on porches 6 days a week all across the country. on the other hand, there were no price controls on brains, and there are still shortages today, as there was then.
@billydu2u but think of now, in venenzuela there is a shortage of food directily caused by chavez stamping out those who wont cave under his price control, or cuba where housing was price control, and now there is a housing rationing,and not soon from now venenzuela will start rationing electrisity
Could the sound quality be a tad better? I can't share it with my German students. The distortion makes it impossible for them to understand. it basically fails, and I'm sorry...
@ron7006 Damn Daev, you read all these comments? I love Mr. Knowitall chiming in ..."he was on a cheap mobile phone OBVIOUSLY HENCE bad sound quality... he should have used Verizon..." effin phone company salesmen.
But seriously I don't do US politics in class either, mate. I used an earlier video, but then on this on I remembered how crappy the quality was, was all.
I found five "marketing" companies with in 2 minutes using google, that PAY people to blog and comment on web sites (like this one) for push their clients agenda.
Yes, many of the trolls that plague even these TYT comment boards are hired hands!
An attempt to actually buy the heats and minds of a country (and so far pretty successful).
@aaronsande There was a rumor that frictionRx5 was actually a TYT staffer trying to stir the pot. I think he's too nonsensical to be a paid troll.
I think more comments and replies ranks the video higher in search, and google ad-sense. I think It's the ones who attempt to call everyone out as a "socialist", and(or) "communist", using phrases like "free hand out" as an answer to everything.
@TruthAndMoreTruth I would lose SO much respect for TYT if he was one of them. At least, if he is a TYTer, could he make less idiotic arguments? He barely stirs any pot, since we all can see he should be ignored.
Sadly, no one can make a profit on what I have to say. So, no, I do not get paid to blog, or comment on any message boards, this one included. Nice finger pointing though!
If there was a way for me to make money, without "selling out", I'd do it in a heart beat!
It's impossible to avoid giving money to fear mongering political organizations, since most of them are sponsored by large corporations (lobbying?), so if you're a consumer or share holder, you give them money.
Here's what I don't get about people bitching about Soros and his ideology... If he's arguing for only his political ideology, how is he as bad or worse than others who are looking out for not only their own ideology, but personal gain? If he ends up winning, and he gets what the Conservatives mistakenly think he wants, doesn't he end up standing to lose a lot?
Disagree if you want, but someone please explain to me how Soros is a sinister figure. He just seems passionate about his ideas to me.
At the end of the day, can Americans agree or not that all their people should be guaranteed healthcare?
Should communities be never too far from a reliable radius of a fire service, should houses have water taps achieved via systems engineering, should police forces by provided, and should everyone have access to healthcare, which is in fact not about politics, but medical science and human compassion, which incidentally is the reason the concept even exists?
@Neanderthalcouzin: "At the end of the day, can Americans agree or not that all their people should be guaranteed healthcare?"
This is the fundamental issue. If we all agreed that healthcare should be a guaranteed right, there would be no problem in providing it. I know people who swear that health isn't only something that shouldn't be provided by society, but that it isn't even a basic right. This basic disagreement is what is prolonging the debates here.
Just to be clear, I agree with your premise that it ought to be something provided for (like basic infrastructure). I was just pointing out that it isn't universally accepted that way here.
@squirrelflight Thanks for the response. I also had a debate with a guy and asked him that question, and he responded out of stubbornness that no, Americans should not all be guaranteed healthcare, that it isn't a right.
I told him shame on him.
I want to see sensible Americans stand up and insist that your citizens be given the dignity of guaranteed healthcare. This is about applying cutting-edge science to you and your body. Please don't let these buffoons rule this issue. They are wrong.
The problem is that being sensible doesn't make as big an impact on people as being loud and ignorant. People like biased sound-bites that reinforce their position of doing nothing new, and prefer to ignore the facts contradicting them. I was talking with a coworker about HC a few months back who asked me why Canadians and Brits don't like their systems (citing a Canadian PM who came here for some procedure or another).... (cont)
... and just glared at me when I mentioned that, having traveled to both Canada and the UK, and having asked, found that most people acknowledged that while no system is perfect, they like having it, and think that we (Americans) are completely insane for doing things the way we do. I think I just mangled the English language with that last sentence...
@squirrelflight Thanks for saying that. I'm English, lived in the US, spent time in France and now live in New Zealand and next year will live in Australia which i previously visited, and have spoken a lot with Canadians on this.
Do not, ever, let someone get away with telling you that 'the Brits' or whomever 'don't like their healthcare'. It's like a beaten wife saying 'well you're husband's not always home'. You're absolutely right, no system is perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better.
@squirrelflightbut even more fundamental than the quantification of which is better, it is the gesture, the ethos, that truly matters as well. Healthcare, guaranteed, for all. There is a spirit in that, that cannot be trampled over. A profit-based system for health is not just a bad idea, it's immoral. The poor are consistently left out, making it a Swiftian kind of Darwinism. The true irony is that these Christian, fearful people are backing an immoral, Darwinistic model.
@aarondavid826 u did what we knew should not be done, placed a logo on ur efforts. This allowed Corporate America to immediatly co-opt ur message to their needs through Fox news and groups like Freedom works.
So instead of doing any real politics the Tea Party is nothing but a spoke person for corporate greed.
Speaking as a person who demonstrated WTO, IMF and the World Bank back in the day, I can understand the frustration of the Tea Party, but not knowing any better they made a mistake.
@aarondavid826 "we" didnt create an organised movement, corporate america did. If you only listened to what he had to say you wouldnt think that. Your part of the problem
Wow you obviously don't listen... just like the guy said willful blindness the guy gets up and says I funded this organization 5 years ago and you say we created this organization... It's strange how easily manipulated you people are... are human beings really this........ sheepish?
No wonder we had dictatorships and power hungry people if everyone were created equal this world would be awesome too bad we're not! I don't have an answer to this problem though very difficult... education perhaps?
Hard to make out various portions of Taki's dialogue. The sound quality is terrible, I'm guessing its a long distance international call? Coupled with his accent its really difficult and a bit annoying trying to decipher this interview, which is a shame because from what I can make out it sounds very interesting.
And the teabaggers hate it when you bring up astro turfing.I live in A place he came to and have been to many of these big coal company party's he was talking about.After I wouldn't go to one of those things if I had to.
bhensley80 4 months ago
I just got blocked from the tea party's official web site.They hate when you bring up this movie.Ha ha.I really thought the show was well made.And illuminating.
bhensley80 4 months ago
Here is irony: I went to a rally against the ObamaCare takeover. All the "Astroturfers came in their own cars, and paid for their own gas. The ObamaCare supporters all arrived in chartered busses. I was also at a Town Hall meeting. again the "Astroturfers arrived in their own cars, the ObamaCare supporters (mostly SEIU members) arrived in busses, grouped together, got orders on what to do, were let in early to fill the front of the meeting area and as a group, bullied people.
TAMPADOC64 5 months ago
@TAMPADOC64
So you are one of the paid astroturfers..... figures that you would be here peddling your rightwing lies.
ReligionIsSophistry 4 months ago
@ReligionIsSophistry What your brainwashed mind calls lies, the rest of the world calls truth.
Only one problem with your statement, facts keep getting in the way.
TAMPADOC64 4 months ago
@TAMPADOC64
You are the only one brainwashed.... too stupid to realize that you have been played for a fool... the rest of the world knows you and your tea is shit... no right winger has ever uttered any fact... you live on lies.
ReligionIsSophistry 3 months ago
@ReligionIsSophistry Funny, I've recieved no money from anyone, but you Liberals are demanding more from me, I've paid for everything myself, but you liberals got things paid for you. And idiots like you call me an Astroturfer. You've pointed out who is brainwashed and stupid.
3w. wmur. com/video/20358253/detail. html
Hey look! The real Astroturfers, Obama suppoters!
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@ReligionIsSophistry Funny, I've recieved no money from anyone, but you Liberals are demanding more from me, I've paid for everything myself, but you liberals got things paid for you. And idiots like you call me an Astroturfer. You've pointed out who is brainwashed and stupid.
3w. wmur. com/video/20358253/detail. htm l
Hey look! The real Astroturfers, Obama suppoters!
TAMPADOC64 3 months ago
so according to him(cenk), whats an astroturf?
landofthebravefull 7 months ago
I saw this movie yesterday and it was simply amazing. I found it at filmsi.co.cc. I spent some time in my life thinking about death, but since I saw this movie I'm not so much afraid anymore. I don't know why... although it a movie about death, it shows so much hope.
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Wtf is up with men getting usually better looking as they get old but women getting old ususally ends in disaster! But the movie actually looks really freaking good so I am goinig to see it on filmsi.co.cc right now!
jojitahness 9 months ago
Excellent video. I do despair, however, about how many Americans have become willing if befuddled tools of the oligarchy.
Baukunin 10 months ago 2
@jayantano21 while i'm all for providing content to those who can't afford it... i would urge anyone who's able to pay for this content as it helps send the message that it's content we want and it encourages people to produce more of it.
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mrshresthauttam 1 year ago
tell me this is the democracy in USA. thats like the red revolution in China back in the days. lol.
fengzi1989 1 year ago
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Holy 1st amendment batman! Does this mean that we can say that the entire American left is a giant astro-turfing operation by George Soros?
migkillertwo 1 year ago
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Blah Blah Blah
Experience has taught me that "Opinions" and "Outside Observations" mean very little compared to "actual" experience. I am amazed at how many people/pundits and talking heads talk about The Tea Party as if they really know anything about what it is. It is impossible to stand outside of an experience and make informed decions about that experience. Especially someone from another country passing judgement on a movement in our country. Stay in your own country,please
webackjack 1 year ago
@webackjack Ah yes... when the truth hurts blame the foreigner.
Atheeizm 1 year ago
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I bought the movie but couldn't watch it all! It was really good (the first 40 minutes that I saw!) but it kept stopping and returning to the start over and over and would freeze if you tried to fast forward to your spot! Terrible!!!
3122tan 1 year ago
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TheFunkyDomination 1 year ago
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Does this man know what libertarianism is??? Libertarians don't defend corporate interest, they defend the market... actually some of them are against corporate personhood as it is a government license. Libertarians also see a vital role for government in regulating externalities, the courts, the police, the fire department etc... I am a libertarian who believes in a public option along with school vouchers (which leftists seem to be against). They are also against the (very pro corporate) Fed.
bonfirejovi 1 year ago
@bonfirejovi For a while I considered myself libertarian but by this country's definition of it, I'd be more a social libertarian.
I have many friends who are libertarian, though, and the number one thing we disagree on is the role of corporations. I believe in safeguards and regulation to prevent the private sector from abusing its power. But most libertarians seem to believe that markets regulate themselves. I think our corporations are out of control and seriously damaging the country.
SunEyes27 1 year ago 4
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@SunEyes27 Markets regulate themselves ?
Did they ever think that far, by saying, if the companies,
made some deal with each-other, to offer the same prize ?.
izaccy 1 year ago
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Your more social libertarian, no libertarian would agree with you
about regulating, having healthcare, or the government having the vital role.
Im sorry but it seem like, you are the one who dont know that much about it.
Libertarians such as Alex Jones, Ron Paul, and Penn Jilette
see everything bad in government, which off course is true right now
because they are controlled by the corporations
izaccy 1 year ago
@izaccy - yes, but Obama broke that cycle, now the people are in control, so it's quite refreshing.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
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But Media Matters, Think Progress, the Coffee Party and Move On are not astroturf (SOROS)?
bonfirejovi 1 year ago
Taki is an awesome name! fucking badass, especially if you're not japanese.
hollaboutit 1 year ago
either the other kids will bully cenks son to death, or they will call him pro.
spaik007 1 year ago
@spaik007 people will find ANYTHING to criticize you, IF you are lame....
hollaboutit 1 year ago
@hollaboutit When seeing your reply i get the urge to write "Yeah,You should Know" but instead ill write "Thats true he wont be lame"
yeah... story of the day..
spaik007 1 year ago
@spaik007 lmao.
hollaboutit 1 year ago
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Sigh. I am getting tied of being told by lefties that I've been 'fooled' by 'propaganda.'
DAMNIT, I have NOT been fooled. I know EXACTLY what I believe, WHY I believe it, and I also UNDERSTAND the implications. Stop treating me like I'm some goddamned monkey. If you think the 'megacorp propaganda machine' is evil, then, damnit, show enough respect to say that I'M EVIL TOO.
Don't patronize me. It's insulting.
twk373 1 year ago
@twk373 anyone as cocksure of themselves as you is definitely not a monkey. maybe a turkey?
billydu2u 1 year ago 6
@twk373 Nobody thinks they are themselves evil. And knowing what you "believe" is immaterial. I "know" that "I believe" I am the worlds greatest lover. But belief is a poor substitute for evidence and it is possible that I have been fooled :) Everyone can be fooled if they are told what they want to hear. When you find yourself saying things like "I know EXACTLY what I believe", take a step back and ask yourself a better question: Do you know EXACTLY how things are?
morganbath 1 year ago 4
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Wait--what? People aren't going to believe that price controls result in shortages?
These must be people who've never taken Microecon 101.
twk373 1 year ago
@twk373 there were price controls on food and fuels for decades and there were no shortages. gasoline was $.349, and price controlled milk was delivered to a box on porches 6 days a week all across the country. on the other hand, there were no price controls on brains, and there are still shortages today, as there was then.
billydu2u 1 year ago 6
@billydu2u but think of now, in venenzuela there is a shortage of food directily caused by chavez stamping out those who wont cave under his price control, or cuba where housing was price control, and now there is a housing rationing,and not soon from now venenzuela will start rationing electrisity
landofthebravefull 7 months ago
Could the sound quality be a tad better? I can't share it with my German students. The distortion makes it impossible for them to understand. it basically fails, and I'm sorry...
ron7006 1 year ago
@ron7006 he was on a cheap mobile phone obviously hence bad sound quality
Melpheos1er 1 year ago
@ron7006 Damn Ron, you do US politics in class? I stopped that long time ago. I ain't got the stomach for it.
daevczen 1 year ago
@ron7006 Damn Daev, you read all these comments? I love Mr. Knowitall chiming in ..."he was on a cheap mobile phone OBVIOUSLY HENCE bad sound quality... he should have used Verizon..." effin phone company salesmen.
But seriously I don't do US politics in class either, mate. I used an earlier video, but then on this on I remembered how crappy the quality was, was all.
ron7006 1 year ago
@GuerrillaFighter12 oh
aarondavid826 1 year ago
I found five "marketing" companies with in 2 minutes using google, that PAY people to blog and comment on web sites (like this one) for push their clients agenda.
Yes, many of the trolls that plague even these TYT comment boards are hired hands!
An attempt to actually buy the heats and minds of a country (and so far pretty successful).
TruthAndMoreTruth 1 year ago 51
@TruthAndMoreTruth I wonder if that frictionRx5 asshole is one. He certainly seems to NEVER agree with Cenk on ANYTHING.
aaronsande 1 year ago
@aaronsande There was a rumor that frictionRx5 was actually a TYT staffer trying to stir the pot. I think he's too nonsensical to be a paid troll.
I think more comments and replies ranks the video higher in search, and google ad-sense. I think It's the ones who attempt to call everyone out as a "socialist", and(or) "communist", using phrases like "free hand out" as an answer to everything.
TruthAndMoreTruth 1 year ago
@TruthAndMoreTruth I would lose SO much respect for TYT if he was one of them. At least, if he is a TYTer, could he make less idiotic arguments? He barely stirs any pot, since we all can see he should be ignored.
aaronsande 1 year ago
@TruthAndMoreTruth
And how much did you get paid to say this?
The answer to the fear mongering is do your own investigation before backing any group or sending any money to a cause. It is not hard.
MStowastiqPackapic 1 year ago
@MStowastiqPackapic
Sadly, no one can make a profit on what I have to say. So, no, I do not get paid to blog, or comment on any message boards, this one included. Nice finger pointing though!
If there was a way for me to make money, without "selling out", I'd do it in a heart beat!
It's impossible to avoid giving money to fear mongering political organizations, since most of them are sponsored by large corporations (lobbying?), so if you're a consumer or share holder, you give them money.
TruthAndMoreTruth 1 year ago
@GuerrillaFighter12 your on the wrong youtube channel if you don't know the definitions to any of those terms my friend
aarondavid826 1 year ago
Here's what I don't get about people bitching about Soros and his ideology... If he's arguing for only his political ideology, how is he as bad or worse than others who are looking out for not only their own ideology, but personal gain? If he ends up winning, and he gets what the Conservatives mistakenly think he wants, doesn't he end up standing to lose a lot?
Disagree if you want, but someone please explain to me how Soros is a sinister figure. He just seems passionate about his ideas to me.
dEdGrimley 1 year ago
At the end of the day, can Americans agree or not that all their people should be guaranteed healthcare?
Should communities be never too far from a reliable radius of a fire service, should houses have water taps achieved via systems engineering, should police forces by provided, and should everyone have access to healthcare, which is in fact not about politics, but medical science and human compassion, which incidentally is the reason the concept even exists?
This is morality, not politics.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago 4
@Neanderthalcouzin: "At the end of the day, can Americans agree or not that all their people should be guaranteed healthcare?"
This is the fundamental issue. If we all agreed that healthcare should be a guaranteed right, there would be no problem in providing it. I know people who swear that health isn't only something that shouldn't be provided by society, but that it isn't even a basic right. This basic disagreement is what is prolonging the debates here.
squirrelflight 1 year ago
@squirrelflight
Just to be clear, I agree with your premise that it ought to be something provided for (like basic infrastructure). I was just pointing out that it isn't universally accepted that way here.
squirrelflight 1 year ago
@squirrelflight Thanks for the response. I also had a debate with a guy and asked him that question, and he responded out of stubbornness that no, Americans should not all be guaranteed healthcare, that it isn't a right.
I told him shame on him.
I want to see sensible Americans stand up and insist that your citizens be given the dignity of guaranteed healthcare. This is about applying cutting-edge science to you and your body. Please don't let these buffoons rule this issue. They are wrong.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
@Neanderthalcouzin
The problem is that being sensible doesn't make as big an impact on people as being loud and ignorant. People like biased sound-bites that reinforce their position of doing nothing new, and prefer to ignore the facts contradicting them. I was talking with a coworker about HC a few months back who asked me why Canadians and Brits don't like their systems (citing a Canadian PM who came here for some procedure or another).... (cont)
squirrelflight 1 year ago
@squirrelflight
... and just glared at me when I mentioned that, having traveled to both Canada and the UK, and having asked, found that most people acknowledged that while no system is perfect, they like having it, and think that we (Americans) are completely insane for doing things the way we do. I think I just mangled the English language with that last sentence...
squirrelflight 1 year ago
@squirrelflight Thanks for saying that. I'm English, lived in the US, spent time in France and now live in New Zealand and next year will live in Australia which i previously visited, and have spoken a lot with Canadians on this.
Do not, ever, let someone get away with telling you that 'the Brits' or whomever 'don't like their healthcare'. It's like a beaten wife saying 'well you're husband's not always home'. You're absolutely right, no system is perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago 3
@squirrelflightbut even more fundamental than the quantification of which is better, it is the gesture, the ethos, that truly matters as well. Healthcare, guaranteed, for all. There is a spirit in that, that cannot be trampled over. A profit-based system for health is not just a bad idea, it's immoral. The poor are consistently left out, making it a Swiftian kind of Darwinism. The true irony is that these Christian, fearful people are backing an immoral, Darwinistic model.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
Kochsuckers
Yankhadenough 1 year ago 29
DUDE.......
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
more whining about the tea party. Get over it liberals, we created an organized movement and you didn't
aarondavid826 1 year ago
@aarondavid826 u did what we knew should not be done, placed a logo on ur efforts. This allowed Corporate America to immediatly co-opt ur message to their needs through Fox news and groups like Freedom works.
So instead of doing any real politics the Tea Party is nothing but a spoke person for corporate greed.
Speaking as a person who demonstrated WTO, IMF and the World Bank back in the day, I can understand the frustration of the Tea Party, but not knowing any better they made a mistake.
Ex0dus111 1 year ago 3
@aarondavid826 "we" didnt create an organised movement, corporate america did. If you only listened to what he had to say you wouldnt think that. Your part of the problem
amcke001 1 year ago
@aarondavid826 Haha
SirPwn4lot 1 year ago
@aarondavid826 If you snooze you lose. The Dems were asleep and they are losing. You are right.
cheddyrod 1 year ago
Wow you obviously don't listen... just like the guy said willful blindness the guy gets up and says I funded this organization 5 years ago and you say we created this organization... It's strange how easily manipulated you people are... are human beings really this........ sheepish?
No wonder we had dictatorships and power hungry people if everyone were created equal this world would be awesome too bad we're not! I don't have an answer to this problem though very difficult... education perhaps?
upplsuckimcool16 1 year ago
@aarondavid826 Organized? Yeah, by corporations. Congrats. That's really hard to do. /sarcasm
aaronsande 1 year ago
Hillary Clinton isn't Corporate America?
LMFAO
EMPIREofPUPPETS 1 year ago
@EMPIREofPUPPETS yeah, and Michael Moore called her out on it too in his movie.
Yankhadenough 1 year ago
Are you all fucking deaf or something? I can understand him easy. Whats the problem?...
Fudgey123873434 1 year ago 4
watching his documentary right now! its awesome, and quite cheap
amcke001 1 year ago
Hard to make out various portions of Taki's dialogue. The sound quality is terrible, I'm guessing its a long distance international call? Coupled with his accent its really difficult and a bit annoying trying to decipher this interview, which is a shame because from what I can make out it sounds very interesting.
Roeshamboe05 1 year ago
holy shit, there's no way I'm trying to decipher this guys lazy accent and absolutely boring tone. nice try but no thanks.
woodsider 1 year ago
@woodsider you couldnt understand him? dude, i understood him like i can understand my brother.
crackerz99 1 year ago
@woodsider and what is a lazy accent?
crackerz99 1 year ago
@crackerz99 it means he sounds like he's mumbling
woodsider 1 year ago
haha!!
LobsterPotsticker 1 year ago
Sorry but this guy if fucking boring. Taki I mean.
ibmthinkpad99 1 year ago
if my internet didnt go out i could have gotten first ha bisky upload
kazooga1234 1 year ago