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  • Look I'm ALLLLL about not paying income tax.. but doesnt article 1 section 8 of the constitution makes it pretty clear that congress has the power to levy any kind of tax it wants on the people. 

  • @Johnf85

    It does. Hoever, congress can't just "make up" a tax. A federal income tax needs a law, an amendment even: the sixteenth. Which some argue has not been ratified by all states properly according to the constitution. Further more, the law that regulates this income tax is unconstitutional. It violates the 5th, is thus unconstitutional and thus illegal / void. The agrument isn;t whether congress may levy and income tax, but how it has done so, in my eyes unconstitutionaly

  • YOUTUBE search AMERO and see why the devalue of the USD

  • amazing video

  • @DejectedAlive Yes you are right. The Euro destroyed the nations that wasn´t like Germany, bankers design. The Euro must disappear. Portugal would save trouble by leaving Euro and take back control over its own currency.

  • @kubush

    You are still wrong. The government does not regulate the fed in any way. Who cares if we appoint the governors? The rest of it still operates autonomously.

    We do not audit the fed since Ron Paul seems to be the only one who gives a rat's ass about it.

    It INDIRECTLY runs government, since it supplies it with an infinite amount of money. It STEALS from people by causing inflation, which makes all of our money worth less.

  • pwned! We all need to wake up - the fed has been stealing our money for decades while filling our minds with fear. Time for a big change!

  • @flowsource1 How is the Fed stealing our money exactly?

  • and finally my dear friends....looks im inspired today :) :

    i feel this is just The tip of the iceberg...

    this cant be denied by cowards that always cry "its a conspiracy theory"

    this will show how far goverments&press can go with lies and covering things,etc,etc

    this iceberg is gonna sink this prideful titanic...

    (idk if its U.S.A.,world order, capitalism,whatever....but this is a snowball that can only get bigger...they wont stop the truth even if they start killing truth spreaders

  • another thing and this is good !!:

    again a funny "repeat" in history...

    i have the feeling that THIS THING IS THE SAME KIND OF THING THAT BROUGHT DOWN "Al Capone"...(and he also "collected taxes" illegally!)

    .. this in some way is the smallest crime of these people...

    (Cause they made 9/11 for then killing millions in middle east,etc,etc)

    same as Al Capone, looks like this thing, they cant hide it, they cant say its bin laden puppet...etc.etc...

    this is solid....

  • again the biblical thing about "who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel"

    unbelivable....in the land where a lawyer can make a company pay millions to a stupid that put a cat on a microwave, they wont make justice here...

    just because THIS IS TOO BIG.....

    almoust unbelievable...

    a huge fraud involving all goverments etc..etc...

    even trying to change the law now (if they could) would be admiting that those parties made the biggest money crime in the history of the world by sooo far...

  • 3:38

    BRUSHABER V. UNION PACIFIC R. CO., 240 U. S. 2 (1916)

    "The Fifth Amendment is not a limitation upon the taxing power conferred upon Congress by the Constitution."

    "A want of due process of law does not arise from want of wisdom in Congress in levying taxes, and thus give the courts power to overrule the action of Congress by declaring it to be unconstitutional."

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  • 300 AD -Roman money became worthless. The Roman Empire became desolated and the people rejected Roman Imperial power. The Roman middle class was destroyed by excessive taxes. - By 476 AD, the Western Roman Empire had Collapsed. The Imperial rule of Rome had lasted over 500 years.

  • see Oath of Jesuits,Zionst, NeoCon Infiltrated Protestants setting up NWO, see how they stole American Money system google film "FIAT EMPIRE", they have Americans Drugged with NeuroToxin,HexaFluorsiclic ACID falsely labled Sodium, see Films at FluorideAction, take Magnesium Purify water, code name Paper Clip, MkUltra, google Youtube Martial Law, Rex84, Operation Garden Plot, Cathy O'Brian, google Jews VS Zionist,Zionist,Jesuits Financed Hitler, they are the Secret Government, have Judges,Senato

  • This is the text of the Amendment: 'The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.'

    It is clear on the face of this text that it does not purport to confer power to levy income taxes in a generic sense,***AN AUTHORITY ALREADY POSSESSED AND NEVER QUESTIONED.***

    Brushaber v. UPRR Company

  • thank you for your service, i am a retired bubblehead and my stepdad is a retired squid also. i also have an accounting degree and i no longer work int he field but i have a good grasp of our income tax policy.

    the problem in the original consititution wasn't the income tax itself, it was the uniformity of it. the reason for the amendment was to enact a graduated income tax system. a flat tax or fair tax would have satisfied the uniformity requirement originally in the constitution

  • @carlokrenzelak

    Thank you for your service also, (even if you were a bublehead)... :)

    I'm just refuting their claims that there is no law or that it is unconstitutional.

  • what say you of the the wording 'voluntary compliance'?

  • @carlokrenzelak

    "voluntary compliance " is not in the law so it has no real meaning in this debate. It's just a phrase used to denote that it is first a self assesment under Title 26, that the Government does not just simply send you a bill and says 'pay up'.

  • i disagree with yrou post about vountary compliance, but i agree with you that it is law. the only argument against the legality of income tax that holds any water is the 16th amendment ratification argument. the typos and stuff aren't important, but some states ratified a bill which used the term 'lay' and some ratified a bill that used the word 'levy.lay places the responsibility for paying the tax on the taxpayer, like what we have. levy puts the responsiblity on the government

  • two jews HA

  • yep the Federal Reserve is the source of the income tax law they get all the taxes not government programs that is why the FED doesn't want a balanced budget or to pay off the debt they would lose 100's of billions of dollars in income a yr that is why Bush went back to deficit spending like his dad and Reagan with huge tax breaks to force the government to go into debt

  • leftylion its illegal...they are using us to pay down the debts this government borrows from the "the big boys"...reserve banks!!!!...check it out...crazy crazy stuff!!

  • morons, just pay your godman taxes

  • WW2 ended to quickly!!!!!!!!!!

  • Hitler slaughter the jews whit guns.  The jews is slaugther american people whit the penncil. America is turning into a gigantic consentration camp

  • To the extent that income taxes are said to be "voluntary," however, they are only voluntary in that one files the returns and pays the taxes without the IRS first telling each individual the amount due and then forcing payment of that amount. The payment of income taxes is not optional, however, see, e.g., Wilcox v. Commissioner, 848 F.2d 1007, 1008 (9th Cir. 1988); Newman v. Schiff, 778 F.2d 460, 467 (8th Cir. 1985)

  • "you caught me unprepaired!!!!"

  • yea, I have heard about this for years and to tell you the truth I don't think there is anything we can do about it. The IRS has more power than the mob. I'm sure if the mob tried to extort money from you you probably would give it to them then hope the government would help you get it back but what do you do if the government was extorting that same money from you? There is nothing you can do.

    Sad but true.

    Let us know when you find a solution to this conundrum.

  • Voluntary Servitude by Deception /watch?v=X6b4YrXayzE The [United States] is not a country. The [United States] is a federal corporation located in the District of Columbia. * USC (United States Code) Title 28 § 3002: Definition (15) * UCC (Universal Commercial Code) Article 9, § 9-307. LOCATION OF DEBTOR (h) You are a "Resident Alien" vs. the [United States] STOP Drinking FLUORIDE!!! FLUORIDE = AUTISM & MENTAL RETARDATION /watch?v=_Ys9q1cvKGk /watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo /watch?v=rNtTctC_7qc
  • U.C.C. - ARTICLE 9 - SECURED TRANSACTIONS; SALES OF ACCOUNTS AND CHATTEL PAPER

    ..PART 3. RIGHTS OF THIRD PARTIES; PERFECTED AND UNPERFECTED SECURITY INTERESTS; RULES OF PRIORITY § 9-307. Protection of Buyers of Goods.

  • (14) "State" means any of the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, or any territory or possession of the United States.

    USC (United States Code) Title 28 § 3002: Definition

    (15) "United States" means—

    (A) a Federal corporation;

    (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or

    (C) an instrumentality of the United States

  • Interesting documentary. Americans are different from us in northern Europe. I may be wrong but they appear more concerned with ownership and money than anything else. What about infrastructure and a functional society? However, if their IRS are a shadow player that is surely criminal.

  • @Casar1973 Europe income tax function the VERY SAME WAY, European central banks print money and sell it back to their Government as a loan (at a huge profit because it cost a few cents to print and they sold it full face value which create the NATIONAL DEBT) the individual income tax was created to cover this cost, Europeans are SUCKERS as well because Income tax cover only the interest on the national debt, you naively believe that the income tax was to operate the country IT DOES NOT .

  • @Casar1973 Infrastructure and a functional society does not depend on MONEY ? that is news to me.

    So we can forget about it GREAT !

    Why do you accept to pay income tax ? Giving every year a payment out of YOUR MONEY to your Government or going to Jail or at least they will make your life miserable. Income tax Is not use to operate the country's economy ANYWHERE in the World, IT COVER ONLY THE INTEREST ON THE NATIONAL DEBT WHICH IS CREATED BY THE WAY CENTRAL BANKS ISSUE THE CURRENCY, WAKE UP !

  • @reykool

    The interest on the debt was about $250 billion in 2009, income tax was $1.1 trillion...so how does that affect your math here?

  • @Casar1973

    Infrastructure has largely been paid for in US history by Federal and State government. The greatest economic growth of any generation of human beings (USA 1865-1914) took place with a tiny central government, much less laws and no federal income tax in fact, barely any tax at all + New York became the largest city in the world. You don;t need taxes and a mountain of laws and rules to have a functional society per se.

  • If you live in NC PLEASE READ!!!!!

    A GROUP IS BEING ORGANIZED against NC'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE REAL ID ACT

    its called NC against Real ID

    myspace dot com/ncagainstrealid

  • 5 stars and favored!

    I always thought it was ridiculous that anyone or family that makes less than 100k a year should not pay a dime in tax. Now I know why, I was right all along.

  • soo....what would happen if every american just didnt pay income tax? could they put EVERYONE in jail?... if this is unreasonable, or im just plain wrong, please tell me.

  • @spooner07troy So your supporting the idea that we don't pay our military service men? Or pay for interstate highways? Or NASA? Or the FDA? Etc. Most ppl expect these services and organizations, and to assume that we can go without and just not finance it, is nonsense.

  • @kubush

    no, i'm not saying we SHOULDN'T... i just wanted some interesting comments as to what would happen if we didn't.... so i see that we need taxes to generate government revenue for the things we use everyday, but do we honestly have to take all of that money from the people that cant afford it?

  • @spooner07troy The people that can't afford it, don't pay fed income tax. In fact, nearly half of the population doesn't pay federal income tax.

  • @kubush Our personal income tax as written by law should only be a voluntary tax. Of course we should pay our servicemen, repair infrastructure, have better healthcare, alternative energy and much more. The problem is that most of this money goes to the war machine which only perpetuates war and only benefits those that profit off of the war. The Federal Reserve is not at all federal, its run by banksters, has no elected officials yet runs our Government and controls its citizens through fear.

  • @flowsource1 The way it is written, it is not voluntary. The Fed is heavily regulated and does have government appointed officials. It does not run our government nor the citizens.

  • @kubush The fed regulated the housing bubble up until it burst. Heavily Regulated? i think not. Greenspan and Ben Bernake were never elected into their positions - did you get a chance to vote for them? I never did. Those that control the money control Washington DC. Take the time to do the research on who and what the federal reserve really is. We've all been brainwashed into believing we're free. Truth is freedom. We've all been asleep way too long.

  • @flowsource1 Go back a reread my comment instead of going on a silly rant. I said government APPOINTED, not elected.

  • @spooner07troy IIRC you may be interested to know, that in the late 70's I believe it was, there was actually a tax revolt where a large number of the citizens in the U.S. refused to pay their taxes.

  • @spooner07troy Americans are mostly a bunch of "sheeple" too obedient to their government to do ANYTHING challenging to the Power to be, the same way the Russians were in the Soviet Union,They blindly swallow what their News Media (Government Lap Dogs) tell them, like using fear of Terrorism to reduce them to slavery in the name of "National security" They are still under the illusion that they are in a Democracy which is a Big Lie, we are in fact a "Corporatist Oligarchy" and ASLEEP.

  • @reykool Not me, f*ck the Government

  • @reykool You are so right....there are a few of us AWAKE here but to get them to listen....feels like you have to smack them up side the head all the time. Propaganda and brainwashing at it's finest.

  • Misift:

    Ich erinnere sie noch einmal daß ich nicht irgendein unwissender dummkopf bin den mit auf tatsachen beruhenden beweis frei beschäftigt werden kann.

  • Ach, ein scharfsinniger Gebrauch des Uebersetzungsprogramme, nicht wahr? Auf gut deutsch wollte man nicht das Wort "ruhig" aber "einfach" brauchen und der Duftstoff laeuft sich ab; man "ablaeuft sie" nicht...bemuehe dich immer wieder, bosun...so gern ist's zu beobachten.

  • Very good. No, I don't use translation software (don't need to) but my German isn't as fluent as I'd like it to be.

    Thank you for the correction.

  • This doesn't sound like the actions of a man who was willing to die fighting - it reenforces my belief (and correctly) that Hitler was a coward.

  • Despite your most likely drug induced delusions, the German Army does not dole out das Eisenkreuz to cowards...what makes a two-bit swab jock like you any authority on heroism and cowardice anyway, where's all the lavish fruit salad hanging down your left side clear to floor, eh?

    Are you aware that in the time of the Ancient Greeks and Romans it was commonplace for a Genereal to fall on his own sword in the battlefield...

  • Uh huh...now you back off that whole "Hitler died fighting" song and dance.

    This is what I hate about you jackbooted idiots: you're all in until someone calls you on your bullshit - then you become as relativistic and philosophical as a rabbi.

    I have not once changed my position or my tact whereas YOU flip the script anytime I point out your inconsistencies.

  • No, butt brain...I didn't back off from anything. I said "even if"...you have some kind of functional illiteracy problem? "philosophical as a rabbi"....HAHA that's a good one maybe you are the raving "antisemite" in self-denial. No doubt you have never read from the jewish Talmud either---go read from it yourself and see just how much "philosophy" you will find. Social relativism is far more likely to be your addiction of choice, not mine. Don't try to rub your shit off on me.

  • Hitler was neither an ancient Greek or an ancient Roman. Hitler was a coward who nearly pissed himself when he thought that the cyanide given to him by the SS wasn't really cyanide.

  • This isn't 1776 either, so what are we supposed to do, wipe our asses with the Declaration of Independence? George Bush isn't standing up to his ass in snow at Valley Forge either---so does that make him at complete liberty to trample and spit all over the Constitution which is all that sorry-ass bastard has been doing for the past six miserable years? You come of some helicoid school of "logic".

  • "George Bush isn't standing up to his ass in snow at Valley Forge either---so does that make him at complete liberty to trample and spit all over the Constitution which is all that sorry-ass bastard has been doing for the past six miserable years?"

    On that we agree.

  • Intentionally missing the point as always and dragging in your usual irrelevancies and nonsequiturs...I guess according to you, the suicide pilots (and they were called "shimpu" not kamikaze---that came from the glittering ghetto) were also "cowards" just like the ancient Greeks and Romans. You must have spent your entire life in a broom closet.

  • Ignorant stooges like you don't have beliefs, you have comforting delusions. Even if there existed prima facie evidence of his suicide let alone proof beyond any reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty, you sure as Hell haven't presented it or anything akin. And if he did, so damned what---Roman generals fell on their own swords rather than dishonor those who fought alongside them by surrendering---"cowards" according to you, I dare say. Where's your Medal of Honor, Mr. Armchair "Patriot"

  • "Where's your Medal of Honor"

    I don't have one. Neither do you, and good luck trying to prove otherwise.

  • Hitler also had his dog Blondi poisoned before his suicide to test the poison he and Eva Braun were going to take.

    The little dog, too, Dorothy?

  • And now I've found out why: Hitler was paranoid that the cyanide the SS gave him wasn't real cyanide and that he was fearful that he would be taken alive - so Blondi, like a good little Nazi, "volunteered" to be a test subject.

  • I've said it before and I will say it again:

    If you're going to spout crackpot theories, you're going to attract crakpots. None of you should be surprised at this.

  • I've been waiting 15 years to say this to someone of your ilk, misfit:

    Only a Jew could sell you assholes a $10 bedsheet for $100.

    Personally, I don't really care what you believe but now that's it out in the open, you can't equivicate any longer - and that makes for a more honest discussion.

  • "Honesty"?...you wouldn't know honesty if it crawled up your ass and laid eggs. Besides I think you'd find that the Klan makes their own sheets...unlike the shit 4 brains American military which has all their electronics made in Japan or Israel

  • Man, this keeps getting better...

    In a 1998 interview for the newspaper New Times, Black said, "We want to take America back. We know a multicultural Yugoslav nation can't hold up for too long. Whites won't have any choice but to take military action. It's our children whose interests we have to defend."

    These are misfit's beer buddies!

  • So?...maybe you don't mind having your brats raised in a "multicultural" cesspool that doubles as a gladiator pit. Funny thing, bos'n...this first page has seven comments by you but no comments by anyone else until just now...you posting to yourself or do you and the Tube have a secret little circle jerk arrangement? I guess freedom of speech in America is strictly for zio-scheist and flag waiving pseudo patriot road apples.

  • "I guess freedom of speech in America is strictly for zio-scheist and flag waiving pseudo patriot road apples."

    Then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

  • Don Black and other members of Stormfront often discuss the possibility of a future race war, such as the one depicted in the novel The Turner Diaries. In 2006, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported a discussion on Stormfront in which white nationalists were encouraged to join the military, in order to learn the skills necessary for winning such a race war.

  • Stormfront identifies itself as a "racialist discussion board for pro-White activists and anyone else interested in White survival". Stormfront hosts an online copy of Adolf Hitler's book Mein Kampf which is preceded by a description of Hitler as someone who "refused to surrender".

    That explains the Hitler worship...

  • Ever read Mein Kampf? No, you wouldn't have the courage...you'd just be satisfied with what some jewish quack of a high school twistory teacher told you. Keep it up billy-boy...just keep dumping so many comments on this thread that they clog up the entire first page and no one will see any rebutals to your pathological flag-waving bat crap.

  • I don't take stock in anything written by a coward - and that's precisely what Hitler was.

    When the time came for him to man up, he shot himself like a little bitch.

  • You obviously got all your dubious knowledge of the Big One from Frank Capra celluloid and a high school twistory book which is worse than no knowledge at all...Hitler had lavish opportunities to flee Germany but chose to stay and die with his people and far more reliable sources than yours maintain that as the soviet infantry and armor entered Berlin, he took his Mauser K98 and fought them in the streets alongside his SS until he was felled---

  • ROTFLMAO!!! On 30 April 1945, after intense street-to-street combat, when Soviet troops were spotted within a block or two of the Reich Chancellory, Hitler committed suicide, shooting himself while simultaneously biting into a cyanide capsule. Hitler's body and that of Eva Braun (his mistress whom he had married the day before) were put in a bomb crater, doused in gasoline by Otto Günsche and other Führerbunker aides, and set alight as the Red Army advanced and shelling continued.

  • Then why did Allied propagandist so gloatingly show alleged photographs of his dead body afterwards in a state that shows that he and his uniform must have been highly refractory if what you say is true. I think Hitler would have been wholly familiar with the effect of cyanide long before then as some of his spies used it to keep from falling into the hands of the Allies....same as Gary Powers carried a hypo full of curare in his U-2.

  • So who should I believe and why? You or Otto Günsche?

  • Do you want to believe in forced "confessions" at the Nuremburg "trials" which were such an obscene elephant and pony routine that the first American judge assigned to them quit in abject disgust?

  • Günsche wasn't at Nuremburg. Congratulations -you just became the most uninformed and ignorant person on YouTube (again).

  • Did I say he was? Neither was Albert Speer who, decades later "reviled" Hitler---whether at Nuremburg or not, many high rankers in the Reich were threatened with being turned over to the soviets if they didn't "cooperate" just like the 78 German scientists brought over here in Op Paperclip---no, billy-boy, y7ou are the one who doesn't know his ass hole from Lovers' Lane in Harlem. Look what happened to Hess for refusing to renounce the Reich. But he stood strong for his beliefs, unlike you.

  • I believe you're a dirt-stupid, ignorant, unwashed, braindead asshole who conveniently distorts historical fact when it doesn't suit his Nazi-spoonfed views.

    And it's a very powerful belief.

  • No, it must have been a powerful drug---like most people in America, you have been skull fucked into the blind staggers and had red, white and blue sunshine blown right up your back staircase...You wouldn't have the brass-clad guts to read Mein Kampf in the original German or the one and only authorized translation of it and go THINK a little bit and scratch below the surface--no, you're nothing but a washed up ex swab jock who doesn't know his butt from Carlsbad Caverns.

  • "You wouldn't have the brass-clad guts to read Mein Kampf in the original German"

    Aber ich habe Mein Kampf auf den ursprünglichen Deutsch gelesen. Abfall ist ruhiger abfall, egal wie viel duftstoff sie auf ihm auslaufen.

  • Otto Günsche (September 24, 1917 -- October 2, 2003) was a Sturmbannführer in the SS and was a member of Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler before he become Adolf Hitler's personal adjutant.

    Günsche was born in Jena in Thuringia. He was present (and a survivor) at the 20 July 1944 attempt to kill Hitler. As the end of the Third Reich became imminent, Hitler asked Günsche to ensure that his body would be burnt after his death.

    Asked personally by Hitler...hmmm.

  • How do you know? Many assertions made by latter day American "twistorians" concernign "secret" meetings have clogged the pulp mills throughout the past decades and many of them have been proven to be bald faced lies---the Katyn Forest incident being among the first and biggest. A totally bogus "translation" of Mein Kampf by your late and beloved Senator Alan Cranston being just another of several.

  • "How do you know?"

    Because I get my facts from someone other than George Lincoln Rockwell.

  • Oh this is indeed interesting...Stormfront is owned by Don Black, a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan who was a member of the American Nazi Party in the 1970s. In 1981, Black was arrested as he prepared to board a boat stocked with weapons and ammunition to invade Dominica in what he and his accomplices dubbed Operation Red Dog. Black was sentenced to three years in prison for his role in the attempted invasion. He created the website after receiving his first computer training in prison.

  • So? Would you have had the gonadic gumption to try something like that for what you believed in? There is an old saying as quoted in Chefs d'oeurves of 1878 concerning Spartacus---heroism that fails is often called "treason"...you give every appearance of a cheap gallery crow and not much else despite your cheap flag waving.

  • My belief system stops at 1) playing soldier/conquerer and 2) siding with a man whose skin color I publically despise to do it.

    I don't find being a hypocrite particularly heroic.

  • You would be the one to despise skin color...I would be the one to loathe the bowel rot that lies within the skin and for which there is more correlation than you will ever be able to face no matter what kind of a sewer basin this country degenerates into.

  • I speak of the fact your boy over at Stormfront, an avowed nazi and white supremacist, sided with Patrick John - a black man - to carry out an armed invasion and coup of Dominica.

  • And the problem with this is?....George Lincoln Rockwell and his storm troopers were welcomed guests at a meeting of Black Panthers too...what of it? Rockwell always believed that each member of a race has a moral obligation to sustain the uniqueness and most creative of his racial heritage. I guess that would be another 747 to you, wouldn't it?

  • The problem with this is if you're going to preach racial hatred and segregation you'd better be prepared to go all in.

    One meeting between Stokley Carmichael and George Lincoln Rockwell does not engender a meeting of the minds.

  • They did go all in...something a brain dead ex swab jock like you would know nothing of. Segregation does not equal racial hatred as you so conveniently lump the two together typically of the arrogant ignoramus you are and you are also confusing a "meeting of the minds" with total agreement, which it is not. You also seem to delight in confusing dialog with collusion.

  • That's right, kiddies - as much as he pretends to disavow being an anti-semite your uncle Misfit is a dyed-in-the-wool, card carrying, dues paying, real live NEO NAZI.

    "Back in the days when we marched with Allen Vincent"...the same Allen Vincent who is credited as being the alter kampfer of the National Socialist White Workers Party.

    God, you anti-tax folks must feel such pride.

  • Show some more rank stupidity, billy-boy---Trotsky was machine gunned to death in Mexico five years before Hitler fell, Lenin died while insanely crawling back and forth on the floor and babbling deliriously to himself in 1926---yet we never hear know-shit-alls like you use the term NEO-trotskyite or NEO-leninist...Karl Marx (mordechai Levi) is over a century and a half dead but we don't hear NEO-marxist out of brain-dead clowns like you, do we?

  • And that's your excuse for reviving a repudiated and refuted ideology, huh?

  • YOU have excuses...and usually lousy ones...I have reasons..."refuted and repudiated"...by whom? Your yuppie and schmuppie friends?

  • If by that you mean the better educated and informed among us (about 98% of the human race), then yes.

    Your dreams of a master race died with Hitler. Ghost, go back to your grave.

  • Yes, I knew if I dug deep enough I would find your credentials, misfit. Would you care to explain to everyone here your affiliation with that neo-nazi garbage website Stormfront and your association with Allen Vincent of the National Socialist White Workers Party (NSWWP)?

    You should really watch what you post on the Internet.

  • Hey, misfit, True or False: The Holocaust Never Happened.

  • Suppose you tell us, know-shit-all...go on and explain how, for example, the world jewish population, as recorded by jewish statisticians, actually increased between 1938 and 1946. And it is not "holocaust", it is HOLLOWHOAX and the number of "survivors" has steadily increased over the decades...maybe you'd like to explain that too, as well. Go on, navy boy, let's see you get your dick caught in the wringer on that one.

  • That's what I thought. You are not only an anti-semite, but you're one of those "revisionists" I've heard so much about.

    Aren't the rest of you glad you associate with such trash like this?

  • And this is the kind of people you anti-tax weirdoes attract. I got a guy here who, aside from being a complete anti-semite (ebil jooz, ebil jooz) he wants me to believe he fought for the Nazis in W.W.II.

    And you wonder why the rest of the human race doesn't take any of you seriously?

  • BM, I would choose your next words very carefully if I were you.

  • You are not "me" or anything akin---I am raising some valid issues and you, obviously losing ground, are screaming "antisemite" which further demonstrates your vacuity for the entire world to see...by the way, what you know about Hitler could be stuffed in a gnat's ass and still leave room for Preparation H. I believe two Iron Crosses and numerous citations for extreme courage under fire are adequate testimony to his patriotism or would you care to argue?

  • "I believe two Iron Crosses and numerous citations for extreme courage under fire are adequate testimony to his patriotism "

    So now the military's good for something? Sure you weren't skull fucked?

    I stand by my statement that you're an anti-semite. Have another round of tequila, Mel.

  • It was of no value in your case obviously and was wasted on you like everything else apparently. The term "antisemite" is almost oxymoronic and if you choose to stand by it you will confirm yourself as such as well. Enjoy. You have a tequila and make mine a Jamieson's over the rocks.

  • "The term "antisemite" is almost oxymoronic"

    But in your case it's quite accurate.

    And by the way, a recipient of not one but TWO (count 'em) two Iron Crosses? Uh huh..I'm supposed to believe you're a real honest-to-God Nazi? Not that I'd have a hard time believing you're a Nazi, but the Iron Cross thing reeks of bullshit.

  • "I am raising some valid issues"

    Like what? That DA JOOZ control all the money? Your credibility went down the shitter with that statement.

    Just admit it: you hate Jews. Then we'll all know where we stand with you.

  • The only thing you seem to have learned in the navy was mongoloid idiocy----I hate any despot...jewish, christinsane, atheist, mormon, black, aryan or whatever...but today the evidence is orographic that this entire planet is controlled by approximately the 300 wealthiest men on earth some half of whom are jewish and the other half WASPS whose guts I likewise solemnly hate because they too are despots---but that puts your facile mind on overload and you can't think beyond "antisemite".

  • "you can't think beyond "antisemite"."

    Perhaps you are familiar with the Russian epic "Cinderella"...if the shoe fits...

    "300 wealthiest men on earth some half of whom are jewish and the other half WASPS whose guts I likewise solemnly hate because they too are despots"

    Ohh..nice backpedal there, dude. So now you're an equal opportunity hater.

  • No backpedal to it, mongoloid...I never once said I hated all jews, did I?...nor anything that could be so rationally construed by any one of sound and disposing mind and memory which clearly leaves you out in the rain. I merely state that I have yet to see even prima facie evidence that the jews or any other race were ever "chosen" by any anthropomorphic "god" up there...and then I wait for some social wart like you to read things into that which don't exist.

  • But you admit you hate dem ebil jooz.

    You really are a piece of work.

  • Who knows what goes down YOUR shitter...do you have any vague notion (no, should have known better than ask) where the unbacked M-2 (paper money) goes after it rolls off the presses at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing? Are you really infantile or drug sotted enough to believe it goes directly into the American economy? I guess you believe in elves and fairies and leprechauns and Hell knows what else.

  • And what the fuck does that have to do with not paying your taxes?

  • "what you know about Hitler"....

    ...is that he was a dreadful man who did some unspeakably dreadful things and when the time came for him to man up, he went out like a little bitch and comitted suicide.

    He was a coward, plain and simple.

  • all you know of much of anything is the red, white and blue sunshine they blew right up your back stair case in the public fool system---were you even alive during the Big One? No. Do you have any vague and miniscule concept of the bald-faced lying Allied propaganda they tried to stuff down our gulletsd back then? No. You are nothing but a Saint Nowhere.

  • "were you even alive during the Big One?"

    Were you? I'm betting not.

    "Do you have any vague and miniscule concept of the bald-faced lying Allied propaganda they tried to stuff down our gulletsd back then?"

    Oh, so the Nazis really weren't such bad dudes? Boy, your sheet is really flappin' in the breeze today.

  • Put your money (jewish confetti that it is) where your mouth is...bet me I wasn't alive back then, Boats...go on...I wish you would. Why don't you make it your life savings so I can put you in hock to me for the gold in your teeth?

    Come big or stay home, bos'n boy

  • You were probably 5 or 6 at the time.

  • Better ask some of the guys who run these programs why they are filing THEIR income taxes. You see, it's all a scam: They file their taxes, so the IRS is powerless to go against them, and until the Federal Trade Commission or Department of Justice acts, they are essentially able to sell their materials without fear of reprisals.

  • I don't have to ask them, Boatswain's Mate, "patriot"-boy...I have known many of them on a first name basis and NO THEY DON'T...furthermore the SCAM is the i.r.s. which is no more than an armed collection agency for the jewish owned and fraudulently misnomered "federal reserve bank"

  • "which is no more than an armed collection agency for the jewish owned..."

    Whoops...your sheet is showing.

  • No, the courage of my convictions is showing...a concept totally alien to someone of your ilk who has been skull fucked by the military or by the public FOOL system into believing that true patriotism has jack squat to do with blind faith in government---go look up "patriotism" in a good (which means old) dictionary and see for yourself. Blind, raging and unthinking faith in government authority is not patriotism but the most loathsome intellectual YELLOWNESS imaginable.

  • I've already nailed you as an anti-semite, probably a neo-nazi. Hitler used to screech loudly about patriotism, too.

  • Oh no, of course you're not an anti-semite. You just believe that THE JEWS control all the money. Nothing anti-semitical about that, is there?

    Have another round of tequila on me, Mel.

  • Joe Bannister pays his taxes. I heard his admit this on national television. Interesting...a tax protestor who pays taxes.

  • "pays his taxes"...the Constitution authorizes excises, imposts and duties in ART I...the heavy progressive tax on income is straight out of the pages of Mordechai Levi...if you don't recognize the name it is the real given of Karl Marx. The income tax is the Second Platform of marxism...the "fed" is the Fifth...do you believe in marxism, Boats? I never said I was against LAWFUL taxes to support a LAWFUL government...we clearly have neither in America now.

  • bosunbilly...stagger yourself with your pile of "case law"---it doesn't impress any knowledgeable person a solitary damned bit. All you are quoting is latter day tax court decisions largely handed down as clumsy fingers in the dike before the whole stinking marrianne collapses under its own corruption---"case law" is merely the law of the case and is not the CommonLaw or Law of the Land. You also know that victories won by tax fighters in court virtually never appear in federal reporters.

  • Oh really? So whatcha telling is that there's a vast conspiracy by EVERY SINGLE JUDGE for the last 90 YEARS involving A CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE to COW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE into paying their taxes when they don't have to?

    And you guys think I'm nuts...

  • We don't think it, we know it...or you are hideously misinformed by willful choice apparently...a "conspiracy" is any agreement between two or more persons to engage in a criminal enterprise. Now maybe you would like to convince yourself that the fraudulently misnomered "federal reserve bank" (which is none of the three)has been perpetrating out and out usury on the American people by the sole and exclusive actions of but one man for the last 94 years.

  • Ah, the old fiat currency argument. Tell you what, BM...why don't you just give me all your worthless FRNs - I'll be happy to dispose of them for you.

  • i'll be more than happy to, Boats, provided that in return, you give me a lawfully defined gold dollar for each one of my FRNS pursuant to XXXI USC 314 United States Banking & Currency Code which is currently valid...a "note" as lawfully defined is a "promise to pay something of value"

    ---go look it up "law" nut.

  • Well...here it's been over two weeks and no response from Beaman. Is it possible that Beaman's all hat and no cattle? Could the evil Bosunbilly actually be right that there IS a law? Stay tuned...

  • "law" or "statute"? Any statute can be challenged for repugnancy to the Constitution....any unconstitutional act of the legislature, though having the name and form of "law" is as no "law" at all but void ab initio: 2nd American Juris. pg 177. Your purported "points and authorities" don't impress me a solitary damned bit and wouldn't impress any COMMONLAW jury either. So either come big or stay home.

  • Law.

  • You really so cocksure of that, Boats?...would you like to try and go toe to toe with Joe Bannister, a former irs agent himself and convince him of that?...He won his case against the irs by the way but because it was decided in the lower courts it will never be reported----if you've done any excuse for law research you would know that cases don't end up in the court reporters until after they've gone appellate or higher.

  • Joe Banister pays his taxes. Always has. Isn't it interesting that while he goes around telling everyone that the IRS is illegal and you don't have to pay taxes, he pays his. Sure, I'd love to go toe-to-toe with that hypocrite anyday.

  • Bladder cancer.

  • Now, Beaman, let us examine your court cases.

    In other words, it's time to put up or shut up.

  • In Reese v. United States, 24 F.3d 228, 231 (Fed. Cir. 1994), the court stated, "an abiding principle of federal tax law is that, absent an enumerated exception, gross income means all income from whatever source derived.

  • For federal income tax purposes, "gross income" means all income from whatever source derived and includes compensation for services. I.R.C. § 61. Any income, from whatever source, is presumed to be income under section 61, unless the taxpayer can establish that it is specifically exempted or excluded.

  • The word "voluntary," as used in Flora and in IRS publications,

    refers to our system of allowing taxpayers to determine the correct amount of

    tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government

    determine tax for them. The requirement to file an income tax return is not

    voluntary and is clearly set forth in Internal Revenue Code §§ 6011(a),

    6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a). See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).

  • United States v. Gerads, 999 F.2d 1255, 1256 (8 th Cir. 1993) - the court stated that "[taxpayers'] claim that payment of federal income tax is voluntary clearly lacks substance" and imposed sanctions in the amount of $1,500 "for bringing this frivolous appeal based on discredited, tax-protestor arguments.

  • Schiff v. United States, 919 F.2d 830, 833 (2d Cir. 1990), cert. denied, 501 U.S. 1238 (1991) - the court rejected Schiff's arguments as meritless and upheld imposition of the civil fraud penalty, stating "[t]he frivolous nature of this appeal is perhaps best illustrated by our conclusion that Schiff is precisely the sort of taxpayer upon whom a fraud penalty for failure to pay income taxes should be imposed.

  • United States v. Bressler, 772 F.2d 287, 291 (7 th Cir. 1985) - the court upheld Bressler's conviction for tax evasion, noting, "[he] has refused to file income tax returns and pay the amounts due not because he misunderstands the law, but because he disagrees with it. One who refuses to file income tax returns and pay the tax owing is subject to prosecution,even though the tax protester believes the laws requiring the filing of income tax and the payment of income tax are unconstitutional.

  • Moore v. Commissioner, 722 F.2d 193, 196 (5 th Cir. 1984) - the court stated that "section [6020(b)] provides the Secretary with some recourse should a taxpayer fail to fulfill his statutory obligation to file a return, and does not supplant the taxpayer's original obligation to file established by 26 U.S.C. § 6012.

  • United States v. Lacy, 658 F.2d 396, 397 (5 th Cir. 1981) - the court, in upholding the taxpayer's conviction for willfully and knowingly failing to file a return, stated that " . . . the purpose of section 6020(b)(1) is to provide the Internal Revenue Service with a mechanism for assessing the civil liability of a taxpayer who has failed to file a return, not to excuse that taxpayer from criminal liability which results from that failure.

  • In discussing section 6151, the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals stated that "when a tax return is required to be filed, the person so required 'shall' pay such taxes to the internal revenue officer with whom the return is filed at the fixed time and place. The sections of the Internal Revenue Code imposed a duty on Drefke to file tax returns and pay the . . . tax, a duty which he chose to ignore." United States v. Drefke, 707 F.2d 978, 981 (8 th Cir. 1983).

  • With the exception of Joe Banister, who while telling you chowderheads that you don't have to pay your taxes, pays his.

  • ME!

    I haven't for 20 years.

    No levie, no court, nada.

    There is no law. Get over it.

    Quit cheering for the enemy, traitor.

  • They'll get to you soon enough. You do realize that federal agents lurk the Internet, right?

  • So what?

    I am not doing anything illegal.

    You just don't get it yet.

  • And your parroting of Dave Champion hasn't changed the truth one iota. He (along with you) have reservations at The Grey Bar Motel.

  • I don't parrot anyone, I do my own research.

  • Yeah, like you're the first person in America to come up with the idea that you don't have to pay income taxes. I've seen your kind before and it all ends the same way for them.

  • One more time, people: EVERYBODY in this video has either been imprisoned, sanctioned in civil court or liend/levied by the IRS for not paying taxes. That right there is your first clue.

  • Give it up Billy, the courts have shown you wrong. Quit believing on oldwives tales and learn the truth for once.

  • Show me one case where I'm wrong. I would love to see it as I would love to have a legal method for not paying my taxes anymore.

  • The "legal method" is to do Like Nancy Regan used to say: "Just say no".

    Don't file. Period.

    Is that too easy for you?

  • The requirement to pay taxes is not voluntary and is clearly set forth in section 1 of the Internal Revenue Code, which imposes a tax on the taxable income of individuals, estates, and trusts as determined by the tables set forth in that section.

  • Relevant case law: Helvering v. Mitchell, 303 U.S. 391, 399 (1938), United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10 th Cir. 1986), United States v. Richards, 723 F.2d 646, 648 (8 th Cir. 1983), Woods v. Commissioner, 91 T.C. 88, 90 (1988), Johnson v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-312, 78 T.C.M. (CCH) 468, 471 (1999).

  • In United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10 th Cir. 1986), the court clearly states, "although Treasury regulations establish voluntary compliance as the general method of income tax collection, Congress gave the Secretary of the Treasury the power to enforce the income tax laws through involuntary collection . . . . The IRS' efforts to obtain compliance with the tax laws are entirely proper.