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I think it's obvious the guy meant 13's which is a common expression meaning in the 13.xxx range. Worded wrong but stop being like Asperger and take the gist of what people meant.
Nice runs buddy. High 13's completely stock sounds more like what this car is capable of. Not 14's like Mazda reckons. Though I might add that I did hear from a couple of reliable sources that 0-100 runs for instance or any other performance indicative result provided by the manufacturer is not quite correct. According to those sources, figures given by the manufacturers are a bit more to the coservative side in order to avoid people that might believe they've been misled. Either way good job!
Well, 13.9 is still in the 13s...although if it were me, I'd make sure that I'd say I run in the high 13's- I mean, if you look at the time slip and there's no "14" on there, I guess you can't say you ran slower than you really did.
I've run a 10.003 @ 128, but I don't run around saying I ran a 9.99 @ 130 ...
@patmoss99 thats different..because a 13.95 is a 14 second 1/4 mile..a 10.003 is a 10 second 1/4 mile.. a 13.95 is a full second slower than a 13.. if you pulled up to someone and said i did a 13 second 1/4 mile and wanted to race someone for pinks that also said he ran a 13 1/4 mile.. and really did run a 13.003 or something u would lose your car.. so u should round up that .05 seconds to 14 seconds.. i would.. but besides that nice runs.. =) aha
and another thing if you think your quick off the line now, seriously get a cobb access port dude. launch control is fuckin awesome on the strip and flat foot shifting is on the access port too. best money to spend on a mazdaspeed 3/6.
Hey, 13.9 is generally good for a $22-24,000 FWD car, stop being a dick and give it a brake. Yes I'm sure it could be higher but it isn't damn bad in my opinion.
floody, and how much did you get raped for that 350? with less than half the price difference, an MS3 owner can get a really proper turbo, perhaps a 35r and chew up Z's all day while still getting 30mpg on the highway.... thats being smart, otherwise one could spring for a 350 and forever be slow until a a full major surgery turbo conversion... and get even heavier ....i'll take option A
Well funny part is STOCK mode 350z HR is pulling 13.3@ 107 MPH and now check this out I purchased my USED HR 350z for 17 grand, yes that is 17 thousand U.S dollars. WITH NO FUCKING mods i'm trapping 107 in 13.3 while your useless garbage is doing 14 second @ 100 MPH now 7 MPH trap speed difference is HUGE if you knew anything about racing, Have you ever even been to a race track? About the mods/ forced induction i'll pass because I could get a toyota corolla put 5g's worth of mods and rape a Ms3
So from my last comment you might have realized by this time that even modding a fucking minivan to be faster than another car let us say "Car X" does not make it any better of a car. The forced induction upgrading turbos, mod game can go on and on and on. I have a buddy with a dodge caravan at MD International raceway doing 13.5@ 103 in a dodge caravan and all he spend was no more than 15 grand in purchase/F.I according to your philosophy that minivan must be superior to the 350z and MS3 right?
What part of I purchased the HR 350z for 17 grand total did your retarded fucking ass not understand? and what part of modding a minivan, toyota corolla, scion to perform better than a MS3 in under 15 grand did you not understand? Does that mean that a minivan is better than a MS3 because you can mod it with forced induction to perform better than the stock in under 15 grand.... Dude just shut the hell up and use your brain next time you type any garbage to me. NEXT
lol wow, you're kinda angry. First, how much will it cost to upgrade the stock turbo on an MS3? how much will it cost you to CONVERT to turbo?? Right? Do you have a clue how much pontential the 2.3 DI has? Does Nissan have direct injection on the VQ35 yet? Quit it with the minivan shit... the minivan wont brake OR handle any where near the level of the other cars.... take that minivan on the 'ring and then try & come back with an argument. Congrats on the price. I bet everyone can get that deal
Okay what about the AJP Turbo kit for the honda civic SI which puts down 420 HP @ 8.5 pounds of boost with the weight of only 2800-2900 pounds if even that all costing under 17-18 grand, what about putting a Greddy turbo kit on a SCION TC and pushing about 300 WHP for the turbo kit and installtion in 4 grand which could if bought USED be less than 15 grand. Now my question is this and I hope this point gets to you does that make the Civic SI or the scion tc a better sports car than ms3 or 350z?
I love talking about the Hondas! Kblocks are great HP machines.. oh but wait, that HP is misleading, because it's all acheived with sub-300ft/lbs of torque. 420Honda HP is = to other guy's 350whp. Scions, well, I hate Camry's (and camry engines lol) I get your point though. It's about total package- handling, chassis rigidity, braking etc. It's about the foundation I have to work with that I see value in, not to diminish the 350, but you didnt have to come off like that in your original post :)
Reason why i'm so crude on youtube which I know is childish of me is the fact that I hear bull crap from kids almost every other day from stuff like if I put an AJP kit in my civic SI to if I upgrade my turbo on my STI/ MS3 to crazy stuff like "if I put a F16 fighter jet plane engine in my car". I hear these "DREAMS" every day. Forced induction changes the surface of the game, like i said i've seen minivans beat Corvettes on the track the Corvette is still the sports car and the minivan is not.
no i hear ya, lots of kids like to talk shit on here... especially the "well if my xxxxx was boosted" crap... personally IMO, prestige doesnt win races, and neither does easy-street aftermarket kit availability.
That's exactly why i'm sorry but I don't listen to people with their Well I can upgrade my MS3 or my Srt-4 turbo in cheap money and whip your 350z. if money was the issue we would all be driving turbod low classed cars. Back to AJP example even if the AJP is 420 crank HP and does sub 300 torque. the 2009-2010 M3 is 420 Hp to the crank, weighs more and only 295 torque! but does that put the civic si in the class of the M3? NO . So forced induction/mods/upgrades is just childish arguments to me.
i get your point of view but i guess i'm different that way. i need objective reasons, like quality, technology, good engineering down to specific details like the internal geometry of an engine, and it's powerband. High torque is the sign of a solid basis, esp the lower the torque comes in thats the appeal of 2.3DI to me. K04 cant feed that torque up high, which is why I said with a snail that CAN', means 500ft/lbs can be multiplied by 6500 rpm, instead of 4800; smart tuning, tangeable result
I used to drive an EVO 8 yeah it was faster than the HR 350z I was pulling 12.9 quarter miles but cost 34 grand no one complained about the EVOS,STIS now I drive a HR 350z for 17 gs doing it in 13.2 pretty much half the price. I find it funny that people BAG on the 350z price tag which if used can be purchased around 20 gs but not on the Evos/Stis that even used cost 30gs and a Stock 09 STI is not even as fast as a stock HR 350z and about the MS3 that's just in another class (no shyt talking)
And I understand that you value engine quality etc. but the MS3 is not giving an outrageous track time for anyone to be saying stuff about the Evo, Sti and HR 350z I mean the 3 cars I listed to you are low 13 second cars where as a stock MS3 according to dragtimes best of 13.9@98 MPH to an average of 14.2 and worst being 14.5 To many that might be excellent timings and excellent trap speeds but like I said I used to own an Evo 8 and to me anythin stock above low 13s is not classical performance.
yeah its all good, seems you got a decent value on your HR 350 setup. I've tuned MS6, not MS3 , though its the same and the turbo is where Mazda chinced out to keep price low, they took care of everything else. An example of mainly turbo upgrade (untuned) watch?v=53OozSCGhsg in the heavier MS6. My personal DD is what you'd call "cheap power", this exact setup, watch?v=AACd9YZlh5E minus the ITBs. 12.8ET, N/A, 32MPG highway, it's an interesting combo to say the least, but I really enjoy it!
wats up with all the argument about rounding whole numbers,..put some mods on it and lets see if that thing will shock a lot of people,..im running bone stock and im gettin 13 hi all day,..so make it 14, fuck,..wait till i get all parts that i need and some tune and talk about rounding up or down,..shit,..ms3 still amaze a lot of people,..it has a lot of potential into it,..than deal bitches,..
nice run, what was that little white car, that thing kicked ass. And that is a 13.93 second car not 13.95, so your rule is out, the best run is what counts because it was a run achieved and documented, not the worst. If you really want to be picky then go tell a NASA scientist that .05 does not matter and that we should just round up, or tell a pacemaker specialist that. In the real conducive world of math you don't round, you do that in kindergarten since kids have low concept of decimal places
So for someone to claim a "13 second pass" they're claiming 13.000, eh? That's what you are saying.
It's all relative isn't it. When you measure your cock at 3.6" and claim it's "4 inches" and your gay would-be lovers scoff, then mathematics is your friend.
You're just a tool. Never mind mazda claim 14.3 and I managed to better that - and rather consistently, I might add. Everyone comes here going "great" and you're captain negativity - how is it going through life like that? :-)
Just to also clarify .. someone who runs a 13.5, commonly referred to as a "mid-13" .. could not claim a "13 second pass" .. for when you apply mathematical rounding, which is stipulated somewhere in drag racing foke-lore (according to you), it becomes a "14 second pass".
Do you strictly apply rounding to everything you encounter in daily life?
so the closest time you can get to 14 is equal to something that runs a 13|01. You actually are just as close to a whole second different. "i would say high 13's" you still get to have the number 13 just too far off calling it 13 sec pass. good effort anyways less lag into second gear might get you close.
100 or 98 octane will make fuck all difference oh american 93 is similar to aus 98 look at mon and ron. who cares what tyre pressure he has if it makes for a quiker pass good effort
Wow. Great run and everything but try getting that time without using 100 octane fuel and leave your tire pressures at normal and see what you get; not 13.9 I believe.
For your info, AUS and USA octane ratings are not the same. Our basic unleaded is 91 octane, where as 91 is your premium. With this, my 100 octane isn't rocket fuel as its only 2 octane higher than the most commonly used premium fuel in our cars here.
Exactly. 100 for you in Australia would be like 95 for people in the U.S. but we do not have octane that high here. Use 98 octane and see what you get in times; since it compares to our highest octane here of 93.
Many would suggest that running an octane higher than what you have been tuned for would have little to no effect given that octane rating is all about the fuel being resistant to detination, and less about calorific value. In fact it's usually the case that calorific value of the fuel stays the the same, and sometimes even decreases!
Im summary, with 98 octane I reckon I'd be good for consistent 13.2s passes - that is all. ;-)
Funny thing is the MS3 isn't really made for the quarter mile. Unless he had a boost controller, his boost is limited in 1st and 2nd gear to prevent wheel spin. While the MS3 is pretty quick in the quarter mile, he probably would have toasted the Evo in a half mile drag race.
It did? STANDARD? or as an option? Did you order one or was it on the lot? oh yeah and where do you live? I live in the states, none of my friend's speed3s or speed6s have tire pressure sensors, so I think it's an option here.
I bought mine right off the lot, I did get the GT model so maybe that is a standard on that model. I know I have it because it went off on me a couple of weeks ago. I live in US.
Yeah I think that one came with the tire pressure sensor as an added option, I live in FL so there are a few people here with speed6s and speed3s, I know 2 that have GT speed3s but they don't have TPS on their car... must be nice though I'd love to have it on my speed6, wonder how much it would cost to install?
Ah, that's probably what it is then... because my friends have 07/08 and They don't have a TPS on their cars. How does it work? Where is it located on the dash? Do you find it annoying or helpful to know when your tires are low on air?
I'm not certain where the light is located on the dash, since my car is only 2 months old =) but the tps is a sensor that is on the valve stem on the rim. I figure it works the same as it does on my 05 pathfinder. It freaks me out when it does go off on my pf since it's a loud beep and then the light goes on, but I find it nice since it won't let you go under inflated.
LOL, understand able, I think your manual would be able to tell you though... if you flip to the back of the index under T. I'm kind of wondering how it works for the speed3. Is it a loud beep and a light? I thought it would be something cool that would allow you to see the PSI in each tire... That's something I want, ha.
NICE... that's some good times, those are about the best you can get on a stock Mazdaspeed3, like the best times are 13.7s for the stock Mazdaspeed6... Good driving man... Can you explain to me how you launch? I'm always curious how people launch the speed3/6s. I have a Mazdaspeed6.
dunno where your from but i was offered an mps sports pack here in australia 42k driveaway and i bought my golf for 43 with leather alarm and sunroof. yeah i agree out of the box the mazda is fast but its quite widely known the chassis is already at its limit with that much torque. Sure the golf is slower but flashtune it n youve got the 190kw the mazda has in a more refined n better quality car overall. MPS wins? who says? just depends who's willing to spend more.
maybe in australia you guys can get better deals on vw's, because in america, with the same options I go in my mazdaspeed3 (fully loaded) the golf was 5k more expensive, and was slower, and gets worse reviews for reliability and quality. Never drove one myself, but I was sold on the mazdaspeed3 the first day I drove it.
should've driven one.. i drove the mps twice, after the second drive i went to vw drove the golf n yeah put my money down. the mps is quicker stock but runs more boost and uses more fuel 10l/100k compared to 8l in the golf. I'm not saying the MPS is a bad car because i'd be a fool if i did i mean for me its a close second way ahead of the civic type r, astra vxr, or wrx. Interior jus felt a lil low rent n seemed noisy/twitchy over bumps. It's down to personal pref tho hey
call me a jealous gti driver or whatever i was ready to put a deposit down on an mps... till i drove the golf. if u wanna compare the cars how bout u compare the boost and capacities an extra .3L and almost twice as much boost of course the MPS is gonna be quicker. Wont help it turn tho. Yeah its a rocket in a straight line.. Run that much boost in a golf n theres ur race.
A little bit of riding, but not much at all. Because it has so much torque down low and it wants to break traction pretty easy there is no use in giving it heaps of revs and heaps of clutch slipping like one would in a car with lesser grunt.
For my mind, the sooner I can get wide open throttle with the engine under load (clutch out), the sooner the turbo will giving me max boost.
To the retarded GTI owner your car stock runs low to mid 15's in the 1/4 which is sad really. considering the mazdaspeed protege runs low 15's stock and has 30 hp less. If you want to be a fanboy thats great,bullshit yourself if you desire, but dont try to peddle that shit out in the real world....Tool
You got beat by a stupid looking white fiat looking thing haha. Whats the point, however fast the speed3 is makes no difference. It is like the SRT-4 thing all over again. Car needs some damn class and elegance to go with that shit or it just looks like my damn sisters car.
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Love9sick: +1. This Mazda Speed 3 is pretty quick but so is the Dodge SRT-4 "Neon" & the "Chevy" Cobalt SS. Hmmm... I'll take my GTI over all the above.
haha i raced my friends dad in his 20th ann. gti. and he has ac apr chip, and i think the evomotorsports intake, and he has the miltek turbo back exhaust. and i have an 08' speed 3 and beat him like nothing, and you're saying your stock gti runs a 13. blah maybe in forza 2 it does
Great run! So far I managed to run 14.4 stock in my MS3 on 93 octane and stock tire pressure. My 60 was 2.17 and my 1/8 was at 9.34. 13.9 is def doable stock.
Nice car there Jarrod. It goes hard aye. Good choice. A friend of mine has this car. I don't think it is legal for P's though. thats Probably why he has lost his license. Take care.
good times man, id like to line up with you, i managed to pull a 14.096 in my 2007 Civic Si bone stock on 93 octane gas and factory tire pressure. i didnt get it on tape but i managed to get a 14.18 on tape look at my page and its on there. Good runs none the less man, congrats. you must have a factory freak like mine!
Yeah if you stock 2007 civic si did 14 flat bone stock it's obviously a factory freek!! Those things barely run 15 sec in the 1/4..you would need a lot of work to that 07 si to run 14 sec. Mazdaspeed 3 is way faster than a 07 si. Not even a fair race.
Big time modded? haha! Sounds like a jealous GTI driver to me.
You're confusing my *consistently* *perfect* times for mods.. it's not my fault I can drive, it's not my fault I got 99.996% out of what Mazda provided me.
If you consider lower than standard tyre pressure and Shell v-Power racing 100 octane fuel to be "big time" mods.. I stand corected.
I dont think you know the Mazda's potential. It has a performance of 190KWs or 256 BHP with 380 NM of torque. It goes to 0-100km/h or 0-60 mph in a claim of 6.1 seconds. And this is all stock. It is one of the fastest hatches you can buy. Compared with the GT-i its power output is 147Kws with 280 NM of torque. Give the MPS a test drive and you will know the difference.
just drove a white 2008 mazdaspeed3 2day. man my hands were shaking. its kinda sad, so much power in a fwd car. i own a 2006 mazda3 with a header, intake, exhaust and eibachs. but mps3 is insane and im ditching my car for this thing. love at first sight. but watch, the new 2009 model will be awd lol.
I've seriously considered doing the same. I bought a 2007 Mazda3 2.0. The car has nice power for a sedan and its looks are sexy, but I'm in lust with the Speed3. Maybe someday, though.
Of course an Evo is better - it costs about 50% more. A Bugatti Veyron is better too, but I could buy about 40 Mazda 3 MPS's for the same price as one Veyron! The question is, what is better for the money?
The later models evos arn't as freaky as the 6.5s and so on. The mps is a very underated car. The whole concept of front wheel drive scares people off
my mum took me out into the country in our new Mazda3 Maxx Sport, she let me drive and she said floor it, i was gobsmacked at how quick and responsive it is, great car!
Not really easily, but the awd will help them bog instead of spinning the tires (as would happen in a fwd or rwd) if you let the clutch out too fast at low rpm. It's nothing you dont get used to after a few minutes.
i did mean boost controller -.- I know a little about cars but not enough to go into major specifics..i wont lie.... My point was just to say that you don't have to put a lot of money into the speed3 to get it to beat an evo or an sti, that's all. ~_~
i used to like sti's but to many people have them. I'm the type that basically just wants to try something new and not try what everyone else is doing.
The mazdaspeed3 has a dohc direct-injected turbo 4 cylinder, not a rotary. That first person who said all you need is a $250 turbo timer... knows nothing about cars. All a turbo timer does it idle the car for you after you drive so the turbo cools down and doesnt coke up inside. Maybe he meant a boost controller? The only mods you really need on the MS3 to have a ton of fun are a good cold air intake, a 3" exhaust, and one of the many computer tuners out now. With those you should be near 350hp.
are you kidding me??? 350hp? engine is rated 280hp, you get about 225whp, whp is what counts, add full turboback from CP-E and youll add 30whp and 40lb/ft torque which is amazing! add their xcel CAI youll add over 20whp. Finish 270whp. BTW id add a BOV as well
I've seen most of the US versions dyno at 230 whp stock. Add 30whp for exhaust, add 20whp for intake, add 30-40whp for xede ECU upgrade (tuned properly). 310 whp, add about 15 percent driveline loss... 356 crank hp. I wasnt off. I've seen cars with just intake and catback exhaust dyno at 267whp. These cars are very sensitive to dyno conditions, so numbers between days/cars/dynos can be off by 10whp or so anyway.
no man..."add 30whp for exhaust, 20whp for intake". everything works together u dont just add numbers. combined i/h/e should put out 30-40 whp, depending on the car. once again you dont just add up numbers for each part.
Yeah, true, but... usually when you combine upgrades it doesnt lessen the effect of them (as in, two upgrades that would give a 10hp gain separately usually dont add only 15hp when done together, they usually add more than if done seperate, like 22hp instead of the 20 that you would expect). That being said, 30whp is high for a turboback exhaust. The Mazdaspeed CAI has been shown to give between a 14 and 20whp gain though.
Yeah, in retrospect, those numbers are high. 300 flywheel hp is about right for a full turbo back exhaust and CAI though, if you look at dyno sheets from the people who have done it. An aftermarket ECU (actually tuned and not just thrown on) should be good for another 10-20hp at the flywheel. These cars run very rich, and there seems to be alot of room to lean it out.
mazda speed3 is the best 150mph car for the money. I want one, I love the sporty wagon look.
screw EVOs and STIs, they're old news and to many punks drive them thinking they own the streets. All you need to do to make the speed3 faster is put a $250 turbo timer in there and u will be able to shit on EVOs and STIs =D
I agree. I'm tired of seeing evo's and sti's in every magazine I pick up. They're almost like seeing a civic at a car show, you just walk past unless it's really worth looking at.
The Mazdaspeed 6, from a technical standpoint, will eventually be the Evo/STI killer and it will do it without the spartan interior, the terrible chassis flex, the rattling interior panels, and the boyracer looks.
I had the money to buy the STI, Evo, OR even a Lotus and chose the MPS6 because it was unchallenged territory, new engine technology, and I could fit 5 people in it with luxury and it pulled a 13.7 with just a CAI and exhaust. ;) All at 25k USD lol.
your right and im with you on this one, i have a 6i right now and love it, but i took it to the track and ran 17sec. (stock auto) so i know 6 have a heavy frame, thats why i would rather get MS3, same engine, lighter frame, still a sexy car! =D
A 12A rotary is the engine... It produce 101hp on the 79-85 rx7. That 12A must be boosted, i have a 12A rx7 stock port with a lot of performance upgrade but it is not 13 sec fast, maybe 14. I just got a Mazdaspeed3 and it is a quick car and handles well for a FWD with stock suspension.
The huge difference between the mazdaspeed3 and the evo is that to get power with an evo you need to be at the right rpm on the right gear, not on the other. The evo IS faster in straight line/track, it sucks for daily drives.
The direct injection of the fuel in this motor is sent into the cylinder @ 1600psi. The average car injects its fuel at about 43 psi. The high pressure of the fuel actually causes a change in the state of the gas, it instantly vaporizes in the cylinder. This changes the temperature, it actually cools the engine 50-70 degrees F, than that of an average injected engine. This thing is a serious contendor, FWD or not. Give it the right driver and it can do some impressive things.
Very nice. I like these cars alot, they are the complete package for the average driver who wants to have a good time while driving. I am no "racer" by any means, but this just looks like a good bargain. 13.9 stock is damn good, well done on the launch, that thing realy fired off well. I have heard that you are guaranteed 30 whp by just installing the intake and exhaust from mazda, thos are apparently proven figures, thats pretty wild. This engine is really cool powering this thing.
I plan on getting a mazdaspeed3 too. the Evolution was on my list but the price and insurance kept going up and up. so i have settle for a FWD with crappy load transfer or keep saving but hope that i can find a Evolution for an affordable price.
P.S. I'd rather have 4 doors to take my friends at 90mph. duh!
Also, in america we always get crap cars compared to around the world. Even in europe, Ford made an Evo Escort that has crazy numbers like the evo, and that was 10 years ago. I would like the evo alot better if lets say, they take away two doors, put a better looking spoiler, get rid of the eclipse right now and call this 2 door evo an eclipse? Why won't they just make it a true sports car? I think that would look much much better. Why have a suped up lancer anyway?
The body styling on the Evo is much more aggressive than on a Lancer. They're superb cars with supercar performance for the cost of a Volvo. The wing is a bit tacky, I agree, and a complete cop magnet, but it's nothing that can't be removed. Not to mention that the RS variant doesn't come with one. The Evo isn't a sports car. It's a compact sports sedan. That's a huge niche that Mitsubishi and Subaru own. It's business and a great one.
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NukedJapaneseToyota 3 months ago
I think it's obvious the guy meant 13's which is a common expression meaning in the 13.xxx range. Worded wrong but stop being like Asperger and take the gist of what people meant.
shpankey 6 months ago
some one please tell me why you would waste money on one of these hot wheels and try to make it go fast??????
ceelm 8 months ago
If the timeslip says 13 on it it's a 13 second run.
Plain and simple. Barely squeaked in there but it's in there.
sandman3131 10 months ago
Anyway, less than 14 sec for a MazdaSpeed3 is a great time, as previously it got 14.3 sec:
fyerpaci 10 months ago
yeah more like a flat 14.
still quick tho
Greno 11 months ago
Nice runs buddy. High 13's completely stock sounds more like what this car is capable of. Not 14's like Mazda reckons. Though I might add that I did hear from a couple of reliable sources that 0-100 runs for instance or any other performance indicative result provided by the manufacturer is not quite correct. According to those sources, figures given by the manufacturers are a bit more to the coservative side in order to avoid people that might believe they've been misled. Either way good job!
scoobeydoooo 1 year ago
Should say 13.95 sec. 1/4 mile run.... lol
bensneon 1 year ago
wow ppl are idiots. in a drag race, you time by the seconds. 13.9 is a 13 second car. 10 second cars are also high 10s sometimes
ojd1990 1 year ago
Well, 13.9 is still in the 13s...although if it were me, I'd make sure that I'd say I run in the high 13's- I mean, if you look at the time slip and there's no "14" on there, I guess you can't say you ran slower than you really did.
I've run a 10.003 @ 128, but I don't run around saying I ran a 9.99 @ 130 ...
patmoss99 1 year ago
@patmoss99 thats different..because a 13.95 is a 14 second 1/4 mile..a 10.003 is a 10 second 1/4 mile.. a 13.95 is a full second slower than a 13.. if you pulled up to someone and said i did a 13 second 1/4 mile and wanted to race someone for pinks that also said he ran a 13 1/4 mile.. and really did run a 13.003 or something u would lose your car.. so u should round up that .05 seconds to 14 seconds.. i would.. but besides that nice runs.. =) aha
cblt2007 1 year ago
@patmoss99 well put.
camirocz 1 year ago
and another thing if you think your quick off the line now, seriously get a cobb access port dude. launch control is fuckin awesome on the strip and flat foot shifting is on the access port too. best money to spend on a mazdaspeed 3/6.
N8MS3 1 year ago
wow for a completely stock mazdaspeed 3 the recurculated bpv sure sounds like its vta. lmao.
N8MS3 1 year ago
my ss wil chop it to bits lol
coolcody01 1 year ago
@coolcody01 so your saying your 5.7 litre v8 can beat a 2.3litre turbo, wow thats amazing lol, big achievement haha.
trustfire 1 year ago
@trustfire i think he might be talking about the cobalt SS a 2.0L turbo charged.. but hey i could be wrong. =)
cblt2007 1 year ago
I've found one of these cars for 13k, Just add a CAI and it'll run mid 13's
OmgPanda1 2 years ago
Listen guys 13.9 is fucking slow especially with trap speeds as low and fucked as 100 MPH
flodhi1 2 years ago
Hey, 13.9 is generally good for a $22-24,000 FWD car, stop being a dick and give it a brake. Yes I'm sure it could be higher but it isn't damn bad in my opinion.
wolf1010 2 years ago
haha I kid, I agree with you man
flodhi1 2 years ago
:-)
wolf1010 2 years ago
But you;re still slow LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL jk
flodhi1 2 years ago
floody, and how much did you get raped for that 350? with less than half the price difference, an MS3 owner can get a really proper turbo, perhaps a 35r and chew up Z's all day while still getting 30mpg on the highway.... thats being smart, otherwise one could spring for a 350 and forever be slow until a a full major surgery turbo conversion... and get even heavier ....i'll take option A
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
Well funny part is STOCK mode 350z HR is pulling 13.3@ 107 MPH and now check this out I purchased my USED HR 350z for 17 grand, yes that is 17 thousand U.S dollars. WITH NO FUCKING mods i'm trapping 107 in 13.3 while your useless garbage is doing 14 second @ 100 MPH now 7 MPH trap speed difference is HUGE if you knew anything about racing, Have you ever even been to a race track? About the mods/ forced induction i'll pass because I could get a toyota corolla put 5g's worth of mods and rape a Ms3
flodhi1 2 years ago
PS-fluds,
"as low and fucked as 100mph" I see in your own video your trapping only 7MPH faster? LOL stop pretending like you're even fast, loser!!
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
So from my last comment you might have realized by this time that even modding a fucking minivan to be faster than another car let us say "Car X" does not make it any better of a car. The forced induction upgrading turbos, mod game can go on and on and on. I have a buddy with a dodge caravan at MD International raceway doing 13.5@ 103 in a dodge caravan and all he spend was no more than 15 grand in purchase/F.I according to your philosophy that minivan must be superior to the 350z and MS3 right?
flodhi1 2 years ago
uh huh... way to break out the "it's gotta be stock" argument. You're just pissed you paid 13-15grand more for nothing substantial.
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
What part of I purchased the HR 350z for 17 grand total did your retarded fucking ass not understand? and what part of modding a minivan, toyota corolla, scion to perform better than a MS3 in under 15 grand did you not understand? Does that mean that a minivan is better than a MS3 because you can mod it with forced induction to perform better than the stock in under 15 grand.... Dude just shut the hell up and use your brain next time you type any garbage to me. NEXT
flodhi1 2 years ago
lol wow, you're kinda angry. First, how much will it cost to upgrade the stock turbo on an MS3? how much will it cost you to CONVERT to turbo?? Right? Do you have a clue how much pontential the 2.3 DI has? Does Nissan have direct injection on the VQ35 yet? Quit it with the minivan shit... the minivan wont brake OR handle any where near the level of the other cars.... take that minivan on the 'ring and then try & come back with an argument. Congrats on the price. I bet everyone can get that deal
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
Okay what about the AJP Turbo kit for the honda civic SI which puts down 420 HP @ 8.5 pounds of boost with the weight of only 2800-2900 pounds if even that all costing under 17-18 grand, what about putting a Greddy turbo kit on a SCION TC and pushing about 300 WHP for the turbo kit and installtion in 4 grand which could if bought USED be less than 15 grand. Now my question is this and I hope this point gets to you does that make the Civic SI or the scion tc a better sports car than ms3 or 350z?
flodhi1 2 years ago
I love talking about the Hondas! Kblocks are great HP machines.. oh but wait, that HP is misleading, because it's all acheived with sub-300ft/lbs of torque. 420Honda HP is = to other guy's 350whp. Scions, well, I hate Camry's (and camry engines lol) I get your point though. It's about total package- handling, chassis rigidity, braking etc. It's about the foundation I have to work with that I see value in, not to diminish the 350, but you didnt have to come off like that in your original post :)
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
Reason why i'm so crude on youtube which I know is childish of me is the fact that I hear bull crap from kids almost every other day from stuff like if I put an AJP kit in my civic SI to if I upgrade my turbo on my STI/ MS3 to crazy stuff like "if I put a F16 fighter jet plane engine in my car". I hear these "DREAMS" every day. Forced induction changes the surface of the game, like i said i've seen minivans beat Corvettes on the track the Corvette is still the sports car and the minivan is not.
flodhi1 2 years ago
no i hear ya, lots of kids like to talk shit on here... especially the "well if my xxxxx was boosted" crap... personally IMO, prestige doesnt win races, and neither does easy-street aftermarket kit availability.
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
That's exactly why i'm sorry but I don't listen to people with their Well I can upgrade my MS3 or my Srt-4 turbo in cheap money and whip your 350z. if money was the issue we would all be driving turbod low classed cars. Back to AJP example even if the AJP is 420 crank HP and does sub 300 torque. the 2009-2010 M3 is 420 Hp to the crank, weighs more and only 295 torque! but does that put the civic si in the class of the M3? NO . So forced induction/mods/upgrades is just childish arguments to me.
flodhi1 2 years ago
i get your point of view but i guess i'm different that way. i need objective reasons, like quality, technology, good engineering down to specific details like the internal geometry of an engine, and it's powerband. High torque is the sign of a solid basis, esp the lower the torque comes in thats the appeal of 2.3DI to me. K04 cant feed that torque up high, which is why I said with a snail that CAN', means 500ft/lbs can be multiplied by 6500 rpm, instead of 4800; smart tuning, tangeable result
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
I used to drive an EVO 8 yeah it was faster than the HR 350z I was pulling 12.9 quarter miles but cost 34 grand no one complained about the EVOS,STIS now I drive a HR 350z for 17 gs doing it in 13.2 pretty much half the price. I find it funny that people BAG on the 350z price tag which if used can be purchased around 20 gs but not on the Evos/Stis that even used cost 30gs and a Stock 09 STI is not even as fast as a stock HR 350z and about the MS3 that's just in another class (no shyt talking)
flodhi1 2 years ago
@flodhi1 Because straight line speed is all that matters and what evo's and sti's are best at.
Z4d0k 1 year ago
And I understand that you value engine quality etc. but the MS3 is not giving an outrageous track time for anyone to be saying stuff about the Evo, Sti and HR 350z I mean the 3 cars I listed to you are low 13 second cars where as a stock MS3 according to dragtimes best of 13.9@98 MPH to an average of 14.2 and worst being 14.5 To many that might be excellent timings and excellent trap speeds but like I said I used to own an Evo 8 and to me anythin stock above low 13s is not classical performance.
flodhi1 2 years ago
yeah its all good, seems you got a decent value on your HR 350 setup. I've tuned MS6, not MS3 , though its the same and the turbo is where Mazda chinced out to keep price low, they took care of everything else. An example of mainly turbo upgrade (untuned) watch?v=53OozSCGhsg in the heavier MS6. My personal DD is what you'd call "cheap power", this exact setup, watch?v=AACd9YZlh5E minus the ITBs. 12.8ET, N/A, 32MPG highway, it's an interesting combo to say the least, but I really enjoy it!
OverlyExcitedNewJack 2 years ago
I have the model mazdaspeed 3 2008 and it's great (at the top 290 km/h) see my videos
Mr59volcano 2 years ago
wats up with all the argument about rounding whole numbers,..put some mods on it and lets see if that thing will shock a lot of people,..im running bone stock and im gettin 13 hi all day,..so make it 14, fuck,..wait till i get all parts that i need and some tune and talk about rounding up or down,..shit,..ms3 still amaze a lot of people,..it has a lot of potential into it,..than deal bitches,..
bonton85 2 years ago
nice run, what was that little white car, that thing kicked ass. And that is a 13.93 second car not 13.95, so your rule is out, the best run is what counts because it was a run achieved and documented, not the worst. If you really want to be picky then go tell a NASA scientist that .05 does not matter and that we should just round up, or tell a pacemaker specialist that. In the real conducive world of math you don't round, you do that in kindergarten since kids have low concept of decimal places
Rexy242424 3 years ago
hey jarrod sweet run, never knew 13's wer possible in our lil mps's
karldewar87 3 years ago
It is possible completely stock!
eag8999 2 years ago 5
@morecowbell69...
According to Einstein's theory of Relativity, the MazdaSpeed 3 is so fast that it goes back in time - so therefore you have to round backward.
;D
KapnKregg 3 years ago
if you have a car that runs 12.99 its a 12 sec car,every one(except the few stupid people) on the planet see it that way.
Gone22Golf 3 years ago
When did 13.95 become a "13 second run"?
13.95 is what is known as a "14 second run"
morecowbell69 3 years ago
Of 139,973 other viewers only one shares your opinion. It's a high 13, that's a 13. Maybe everyone else is just wrong, eh?
jarrod1970 3 years ago
Last I heard in the world of mathematics, you
"round up" after .5, not down.
Claiming that 13.95 seconds is a "13 second
1/4 mile run" is wishful thinking, and intentionally misleading.
I'm speaking in terms of mathematical realtiy. If 140,000 other people also believe that 13.85 = 13.00, its irrelevant.
morecowbell69 3 years ago 3
So for someone to claim a "13 second pass" they're claiming 13.000, eh? That's what you are saying.
It's all relative isn't it. When you measure your cock at 3.6" and claim it's "4 inches" and your gay would-be lovers scoff, then mathematics is your friend.
You're just a tool. Never mind mazda claim 14.3 and I managed to better that - and rather consistently, I might add. Everyone comes here going "great" and you're captain negativity - how is it going through life like that? :-)
jarrod1970 3 years ago
Just to also clarify .. someone who runs a 13.5, commonly referred to as a "mid-13" .. could not claim a "13 second pass" .. for when you apply mathematical rounding, which is stipulated somewhere in drag racing foke-lore (according to you), it becomes a "14 second pass".
Do you strictly apply rounding to everything you encounter in daily life?
jarrod1970 3 years ago 2
you are wrong.
you your run 13.99. thats a 13sec car. 12.99 12 sec car.
sycomantz 3 years ago
so the closest time you can get to 14 is equal to something that runs a 13|01. You actually are just as close to a whole second different. "i would say high 13's" you still get to have the number 13 just too far off calling it 13 sec pass. good effort anyways less lag into second gear might get you close.
on2you 2 years ago
retard. if you run 13.9 you say "im running 13's" 12.9 "im running 12's" etc
sycomantz 2 years ago
100% correct!
spectre0618 2 years ago
@morecowbell69 You are one serious idiot,perhaps the biggest idiot i ve seen write on you tube.Certainly in the top three.
camirocz 1 year ago
@camirocz - So, the pther two whould be you and whom else?
Read the comments on your page. You've got quite a fan club.
Front Wheel Drive is shit. I appreciate it in the snow...and that's about it.
morecowbell69 1 year ago
lol, you are going to be posted on the "FAIL" part of my forum. keep up the failures morecowbell69
Alexsered 3 years ago
That's great. I envy your apparent surplus of free time.
morecowbell69 3 years ago
Not bad, wow, a 4 cylinder Japanese station wagon totally stock breaking into the 13s. Thats what one would call technology!
Georgenfla 3 years ago
100 or 98 octane will make fuck all difference oh american 93 is similar to aus 98 look at mon and ron. who cares what tyre pressure he has if it makes for a quiker pass good effort
Abbertont 3 years ago
Wow. Great run and everything but try getting that time without using 100 octane fuel and leave your tire pressures at normal and see what you get; not 13.9 I believe.
marqedwin 3 years ago
Really? Thanks captain obvious. ;-)
For your info, AUS and USA octane ratings are not the same. Our basic unleaded is 91 octane, where as 91 is your premium. With this, my 100 octane isn't rocket fuel as its only 2 octane higher than the most commonly used premium fuel in our cars here.
jarrod1970 3 years ago
Exactly. 100 for you in Australia would be like 95 for people in the U.S. but we do not have octane that high here. Use 98 octane and see what you get in times; since it compares to our highest octane here of 93.
marqedwin 3 years ago
And for you information. I knew that the ratings weren't the same... Captain Obvious.
marqedwin 3 years ago
Many would suggest that running an octane higher than what you have been tuned for would have little to no effect given that octane rating is all about the fuel being resistant to detination, and less about calorific value. In fact it's usually the case that calorific value of the fuel stays the the same, and sometimes even decreases!
Im summary, with 98 octane I reckon I'd be good for consistent 13.2s passes - that is all. ;-)
jarrod1970 3 years ago
Pretty good, pretty good. Do you have any other videos of yourself at the track?
marqedwin 3 years ago
Only been once.. did three 13 second passes, never been back. ;-)
jarrod1970 3 years ago
Funny thing is the MS3 isn't really made for the quarter mile. Unless he had a boost controller, his boost is limited in 1st and 2nd gear to prevent wheel spin. While the MS3 is pretty quick in the quarter mile, he probably would have toasted the Evo in a half mile drag race.
wasp010 3 years ago
Were you running stock tires, or did you have drag radials/maybe slicks on the front? Just curious. EVERYTHING on the car is "stock as a rock" ? ;)
BulletproofMonk 3 years ago
Car running standard wheels and tires. I did lower the pressure from the standard 36psi down to about 20psi from memory.
jarrod1970 3 years ago
did your tire pressure sensor go off?
Alexsered 3 years ago
these cars don't come standard with tire pressure sensors?
BulletproofMonk 3 years ago
my car did
Alexsered 3 years ago
It did? STANDARD? or as an option? Did you order one or was it on the lot? oh yeah and where do you live? I live in the states, none of my friend's speed3s or speed6s have tire pressure sensors, so I think it's an option here.
BulletproofMonk 3 years ago
I bought mine right off the lot, I did get the GT model so maybe that is a standard on that model. I know I have it because it went off on me a couple of weeks ago. I live in US.
Alexsered 3 years ago
Yeah I think that one came with the tire pressure sensor as an added option, I live in FL so there are a few people here with speed6s and speed3s, I know 2 that have GT speed3s but they don't have TPS on their car... must be nice though I'd love to have it on my speed6, wonder how much it would cost to install?
BulletproofMonk 3 years ago
the 09 do, I have TPS in my MS3 GT
pchdriver 3 years ago
Ah, that's probably what it is then... because my friends have 07/08 and They don't have a TPS on their cars. How does it work? Where is it located on the dash? Do you find it annoying or helpful to know when your tires are low on air?
BulletproofMonk 3 years ago
I'm not certain where the light is located on the dash, since my car is only 2 months old =) but the tps is a sensor that is on the valve stem on the rim. I figure it works the same as it does on my 05 pathfinder. It freaks me out when it does go off on my pf since it's a loud beep and then the light goes on, but I find it nice since it won't let you go under inflated.
pchdriver 3 years ago
LOL, understand able, I think your manual would be able to tell you though... if you flip to the back of the index under T. I'm kind of wondering how it works for the speed3. Is it a loud beep and a light? I thought it would be something cool that would allow you to see the PSI in each tire... That's something I want, ha.
BulletproofMonk 3 years ago
yea the 09s do have it in the base model
get3hit 3 years ago
NICE... that's some good times, those are about the best you can get on a stock Mazdaspeed3, like the best times are 13.7s for the stock Mazdaspeed6... Good driving man... Can you explain to me how you launch? I'm always curious how people launch the speed3/6s. I have a Mazdaspeed6.
BulletproofMonk 3 years ago
Who the hell was playing the Grandmaster Flash song?
morecowbell69 3 years ago
sounds like you short shifted 2nd in the 2nd one...
sowatsurname 3 years ago
Very nice man keep up the good work
NervesRock 3 years ago
dunno where your from but i was offered an mps sports pack here in australia 42k driveaway and i bought my golf for 43 with leather alarm and sunroof. yeah i agree out of the box the mazda is fast but its quite widely known the chassis is already at its limit with that much torque. Sure the golf is slower but flashtune it n youve got the 190kw the mazda has in a more refined n better quality car overall. MPS wins? who says? just depends who's willing to spend more.
flop20lo 3 years ago
maybe in australia you guys can get better deals on vw's, because in america, with the same options I go in my mazdaspeed3 (fully loaded) the golf was 5k more expensive, and was slower, and gets worse reviews for reliability and quality. Never drove one myself, but I was sold on the mazdaspeed3 the first day I drove it.
Alexsered 3 years ago
should've driven one.. i drove the mps twice, after the second drive i went to vw drove the golf n yeah put my money down. the mps is quicker stock but runs more boost and uses more fuel 10l/100k compared to 8l in the golf. I'm not saying the MPS is a bad car because i'd be a fool if i did i mean for me its a close second way ahead of the civic type r, astra vxr, or wrx. Interior jus felt a lil low rent n seemed noisy/twitchy over bumps. It's down to personal pref tho hey
flop20lo 3 years ago
call me a jealous gti driver or whatever i was ready to put a deposit down on an mps... till i drove the golf. if u wanna compare the cars how bout u compare the boost and capacities an extra .3L and almost twice as much boost of course the MPS is gonna be quicker. Wont help it turn tho. Yeah its a rocket in a straight line.. Run that much boost in a golf n theres ur race.
flop20lo 3 years ago
Hey great job driving man. How many miles on the car at the time of this vid? What were your sixty foot times and what launch RPM?
chrism13b 3 years ago
Thanks .. about 10,000 miles and 60ft times were consistently 2.1 seconds.
Launch RPM I can't remember it was so long ago .. I think 3500.
jarrod1970 3 years ago
Do you dump the clutch at 3500 or ride it??
IKE5327 3 years ago
Don't dump it!
A little bit of riding, but not much at all. Because it has so much torque down low and it wants to break traction pretty easy there is no use in giving it heaps of revs and heaps of clutch slipping like one would in a car with lesser grunt.
For my mind, the sooner I can get wide open throttle with the engine under load (clutch out), the sooner the turbo will giving me max boost.
jarrod1970 3 years ago
really don't even know why that comment is here, hmm. . i dunno, but that 3 isn't bone stock breakin 13's gotta have something anything.
tylerxfire 3 years ago
def. slicks on there that doen't count for stock makes huge difference
tylerxfire 3 years ago
you think those are slicks on that car?? lol, its all stock dude, accept it. Plus, with slicks, the ms3 is running 13.5-13.7 on youtube..
Alexsered 3 years ago
VW'S ARE FOR EMO PENIS LOVERS
NervesRock 3 years ago 8
hahahahahaha
krazyk86cu 3 years ago
They're listening to Grandmaster Flash. How funny.
cabo02 3 years ago
The GTI has nothing on this machine, period.
sedansi0777 3 years ago
aww vw owners are jealouss,,,what was that commercial where they made fun of the japanese cars? looks like gti's are definately "sucking"
dustyrhodes187 3 years ago 2
HAHAHA, good quote, they need to unpimp there ride a little more ;)
Alexsered 3 years ago
To the retarded GTI owner your car stock runs low to mid 15's in the 1/4 which is sad really. considering the mazdaspeed protege runs low 15's stock and has 30 hp less. If you want to be a fanboy thats great,bullshit yourself if you desire, but dont try to peddle that shit out in the real world....Tool
leviwest 4 years ago
well said !
Hellaciousoutlaw 3 years ago
You got beat by a stupid looking white fiat looking thing haha. Whats the point, however fast the speed3 is makes no difference. It is like the SRT-4 thing all over again. Car needs some damn class and elegance to go with that shit or it just looks like my damn sisters car.
Love9sick 4 years ago
That's an Rx-2. Also a Mazda, and from what I can tell it sounds like a turbo 12a. I don't see anything wrong with a Mazda losing to a Mazda.
glazedham42 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Love9sick: +1. This Mazda Speed 3 is pretty quick but so is the Dodge SRT-4 "Neon" & the "Chevy" Cobalt SS. Hmmm... I'll take my GTI over all the above.
Sideler74 3 years ago
good run... i guess the only downfall with the mps 3's are the front wheel drive... screw more power in and it will be breaking out heaps more...
cool vid.
dmansourm3 4 years ago
mazdaspeed 3's r beasts :)
mhsRocker 4 years ago 2
Those are some pathetic beasts.
Love9sick 3 years ago
i love this car!
mhsRocker 4 years ago 2
More jelous gti owners?
WRXNE1 4 years ago 3
Ran a 13.67sec 1/4mile in my stock 2005 gti.
puntohgt200 4 years ago
haha .. "unpossible" quite simply.
You can argue to the contrary, but we all know its lies. It's basic maths, and we know girls cant drive. :)
jarrod1970 4 years ago
You're f'n crazy!! Get out you lying dirt bag piece of shyt!!!! A 2005 gti wouldn't come close to that.. Try about 15.5 you twat
sedansi0777 4 years ago
haha i raced my friends dad in his 20th ann. gti. and he has ac apr chip, and i think the evomotorsports intake, and he has the miltek turbo back exhaust. and i have an 08' speed 3 and beat him like nothing, and you're saying your stock gti runs a 13. blah maybe in forza 2 it does
buildabong 4 years ago
lol
nice
xboxlivemonkey 4 years ago
Great run! So far I managed to run 14.4 stock in my MS3 on 93 octane and stock tire pressure. My 60 was 2.17 and my 1/8 was at 9.34. 13.9 is def doable stock.
sedansi0777 4 years ago
Nice car there Jarrod. It goes hard aye. Good choice. A friend of mine has this car. I don't think it is legal for P's though. thats Probably why he has lost his license. Take care.
nicksppDotcom 4 years ago
A speed3/mps3 is capable of 13's bone stock with good tires. I doubt that car has very few mods if any. Good times btw.
MidWestRacer 4 years ago
good times man, id like to line up with you, i managed to pull a 14.096 in my 2007 Civic Si bone stock on 93 octane gas and factory tire pressure. i didnt get it on tape but i managed to get a 14.18 on tape look at my page and its on there. Good runs none the less man, congrats. you must have a factory freak like mine!
ImAuthenticFTW 4 years ago
I should mention that in Australia premium unleaded is sold at 98 octane which I believe is similar to your 93 in the US.
jarrod1970 4 years ago
yea 93 is the highest grade pump gas we can get here.
ImAuthenticFTW 4 years ago
Yeah if you stock 2007 civic si did 14 flat bone stock it's obviously a factory freek!! Those things barely run 15 sec in the 1/4..you would need a lot of work to that 07 si to run 14 sec. Mazdaspeed 3 is way faster than a 07 si. Not even a fair race.
sedansi0777 4 years ago
That mps3 has been modded, anyway my stock 2005 golf gti is just as fast as a stock mps3.
Big time modded , ITS NOT STOCK!
puntohgt200 4 years ago
Big time modded? haha! Sounds like a jealous GTI driver to me.
You're confusing my *consistently* *perfect* times for mods.. it's not my fault I can drive, it's not my fault I got 99.996% out of what Mazda provided me.
If you consider lower than standard tyre pressure and Shell v-Power racing 100 octane fuel to be "big time" mods.. I stand corected.
jarrod1970 4 years ago
Your car with 63 less horse power and 73 less torque is just as fast as the MS3 how? Not to mention the GTI somehow weighs more than the Mazda...
Stuka87 4 years ago 4
I dont think you know the Mazda's potential. It has a performance of 190KWs or 256 BHP with 380 NM of torque. It goes to 0-100km/h or 0-60 mph in a claim of 6.1 seconds. And this is all stock. It is one of the fastest hatches you can buy. Compared with the GT-i its power output is 147Kws with 280 NM of torque. Give the MPS a test drive and you will know the difference.
msp5a3 4 years ago
Best bang for the buck out there.
Ryz1 4 years ago
just drove a white 2008 mazdaspeed3 2day. man my hands were shaking. its kinda sad, so much power in a fwd car. i own a 2006 mazda3 with a header, intake, exhaust and eibachs. but mps3 is insane and im ditching my car for this thing. love at first sight. but watch, the new 2009 model will be awd lol.
courtsm3 4 years ago
I've seriously considered doing the same. I bought a 2007 Mazda3 2.0. The car has nice power for a sedan and its looks are sexy, but I'm in lust with the Speed3. Maybe someday, though.
Nickhead87 4 years ago
u cant go wrong with the mazda3 MPS...and when u get the exhaust done and a chiptorque processor it will blow ya head clean off ur shoulders.
datehole81 4 years ago
Of course an Evo is better - it costs about 50% more. A Bugatti Veyron is better too, but I could buy about 40 Mazda 3 MPS's for the same price as one Veyron! The question is, what is better for the money?
CJontheTube 4 years ago
evo is better
civictypeR2007 4 years ago
The later models evos arn't as freaky as the 6.5s and so on. The mps is a very underated car. The whole concept of front wheel drive scares people off
WRXNE1 4 years ago
It doesn't matter if it's 13.999, it's still a 13 second car.
Club3g 4 years ago
13.94 is NOT a 13 second 1/4
confusedanders 4 years ago
Agreed. If my 5000 lbs pig does 13.85 its a high-13 sec car.
600SELV12 4 years ago
oh no what is it then a 19 second car.
camirocz 4 years ago
Yeah... 13.85 definitely isn't a 14 second car.
Leander311 4 years ago
my mum took me out into the country in our new Mazda3 Maxx Sport, she let me drive and she said floor it, i was gobsmacked at how quick and responsive it is, great car!
Finitum 4 years ago
was that an evo? crappy launch.
jwuonog 4 years ago
thats 14 seconds
maxximuss 4 years ago
I only wear a helmet when racing, how about you?
jarrod1970 4 years ago
Was the DSC off?
WRXNE1 4 years ago
in canada, we shit our pants when we see an evo because we don't have it yet.
haretisch 4 years ago
lmao haretisch thats so true
AdamoC3 4 years ago
I heard that EVOs stall pretty easily if you're driving it at a normal pace????
andresc586 4 years ago
yeah...if you dont know how to drive stick! same as any car, cars have differences in their clutches, but they all pretty much the same.
bigrussian57 4 years ago
Not really easily, but the awd will help them bog instead of spinning the tires (as would happen in a fwd or rwd) if you let the clutch out too fast at low rpm. It's nothing you dont get used to after a few minutes.
destruxxx 4 years ago
i did mean boost controller -.- I know a little about cars but not enough to go into major specifics..i wont lie.... My point was just to say that you don't have to put a lot of money into the speed3 to get it to beat an evo or an sti, that's all. ~_~
i used to like sti's but to many people have them. I'm the type that basically just wants to try something new and not try what everyone else is doing.
andresc586 4 years ago
The mazdaspeed3 has a dohc direct-injected turbo 4 cylinder, not a rotary. That first person who said all you need is a $250 turbo timer... knows nothing about cars. All a turbo timer does it idle the car for you after you drive so the turbo cools down and doesnt coke up inside. Maybe he meant a boost controller? The only mods you really need on the MS3 to have a ton of fun are a good cold air intake, a 3" exhaust, and one of the many computer tuners out now. With those you should be near 350hp.
destruxxx 4 years ago
are you kidding me??? 350hp? engine is rated 280hp, you get about 225whp, whp is what counts, add full turboback from CP-E and youll add 30whp and 40lb/ft torque which is amazing! add their xcel CAI youll add over 20whp. Finish 270whp. BTW id add a BOV as well
bigrussian57 4 years ago
I've seen most of the US versions dyno at 230 whp stock. Add 30whp for exhaust, add 20whp for intake, add 30-40whp for xede ECU upgrade (tuned properly). 310 whp, add about 15 percent driveline loss... 356 crank hp. I wasnt off. I've seen cars with just intake and catback exhaust dyno at 267whp. These cars are very sensitive to dyno conditions, so numbers between days/cars/dynos can be off by 10whp or so anyway.
destruxxx 4 years ago
no man..."add 30whp for exhaust, 20whp for intake". everything works together u dont just add numbers. combined i/h/e should put out 30-40 whp, depending on the car. once again you dont just add up numbers for each part.
turboguyB00ST 4 years ago
Yeah, true, but... usually when you combine upgrades it doesnt lessen the effect of them (as in, two upgrades that would give a 10hp gain separately usually dont add only 15hp when done together, they usually add more than if done seperate, like 22hp instead of the 20 that you would expect). That being said, 30whp is high for a turboback exhaust. The Mazdaspeed CAI has been shown to give between a 14 and 20whp gain though.
destruxxx 4 years ago
You're dellusional if you think those figures are close to what you'd get. Those add ons would struggle to net more than 300 horse at the flywheel
Koenig1980 4 years ago
Yeah, in retrospect, those numbers are high. 300 flywheel hp is about right for a full turbo back exhaust and CAI though, if you look at dyno sheets from the people who have done it. An aftermarket ECU (actually tuned and not just thrown on) should be good for another 10-20hp at the flywheel. These cars run very rich, and there seems to be alot of room to lean it out.
destruxxx 4 years ago
mazda speed3 is the best 150mph car for the money. I want one, I love the sporty wagon look.
screw EVOs and STIs, they're old news and to many punks drive them thinking they own the streets. All you need to do to make the speed3 faster is put a $250 turbo timer in there and u will be able to shit on EVOs and STIs =D
andresc586 4 years ago
I agree. I'm tired of seeing evo's and sti's in every magazine I pick up. They're almost like seeing a civic at a car show, you just walk past unless it's really worth looking at.
destruxxx 4 years ago
what bov you have on that 3??cool car!!
twingo16V 4 years ago
stock.
jarrod1970 4 years ago
The Mazdaspeed 6, from a technical standpoint, will eventually be the Evo/STI killer and it will do it without the spartan interior, the terrible chassis flex, the rattling interior panels, and the boyracer looks.
I had the money to buy the STI, Evo, OR even a Lotus and chose the MPS6 because it was unchallenged territory, new engine technology, and I could fit 5 people in it with luxury and it pulled a 13.7 with just a CAI and exhaust. ;) All at 25k USD lol.
ghettospeed 4 years ago
your right and im with you on this one, i have a 6i right now and love it, but i took it to the track and ran 17sec. (stock auto) so i know 6 have a heavy frame, thats why i would rather get MS3, same engine, lighter frame, still a sexy car! =D
bigrussian57 4 years ago
What in the world is 12s Rotary? Is that the model name or the engine? And whoa, it's fast after the second gear or so.
alyou 4 years ago
A 12A rotary is the engine... It produce 101hp on the 79-85 rx7. That 12A must be boosted, i have a 12A rx7 stock port with a lot of performance upgrade but it is not 13 sec fast, maybe 14. I just got a Mazdaspeed3 and it is a quick car and handles well for a FWD with stock suspension.
justint5387 4 years ago
Cant wait to take mine to the track! :) nice races!
voicekoil 4 years ago
The huge difference between the mazdaspeed3 and the evo is that to get power with an evo you need to be at the right rpm on the right gear, not on the other. The evo IS faster in straight line/track, it sucks for daily drives.
Jaleik 4 years ago
MAzda's Turbos are excellent I think.
tansugunal 4 years ago
considering its price tag, certified KICKASS! nuff said
eraserheads78 5 years ago
The direct injection of the fuel in this motor is sent into the cylinder @ 1600psi. The average car injects its fuel at about 43 psi. The high pressure of the fuel actually causes a change in the state of the gas, it instantly vaporizes in the cylinder. This changes the temperature, it actually cools the engine 50-70 degrees F, than that of an average injected engine. This thing is a serious contendor, FWD or not. Give it the right driver and it can do some impressive things.
lpt1485 5 years ago
Very nice. I like these cars alot, they are the complete package for the average driver who wants to have a good time while driving. I am no "racer" by any means, but this just looks like a good bargain. 13.9 stock is damn good, well done on the launch, that thing realy fired off well. I have heard that you are guaranteed 30 whp by just installing the intake and exhaust from mazda, thos are apparently proven figures, thats pretty wild. This engine is really cool powering this thing.
lpt1485 5 years ago
I plan on getting a mazdaspeed3 too. the Evolution was on my list but the price and insurance kept going up and up. so i have settle for a FWD with crappy load transfer or keep saving but hope that i can find a Evolution for an affordable price.
P.S. I'd rather have 4 doors to take my friends at 90mph. duh!
gigas81 5 years ago
Also, in america we always get crap cars compared to around the world. Even in europe, Ford made an Evo Escort that has crazy numbers like the evo, and that was 10 years ago. I would like the evo alot better if lets say, they take away two doors, put a better looking spoiler, get rid of the eclipse right now and call this 2 door evo an eclipse? Why won't they just make it a true sports car? I think that would look much much better. Why have a suped up lancer anyway?
Alexsered 5 years ago
The body styling on the Evo is much more aggressive than on a Lancer. They're superb cars with supercar performance for the cost of a Volvo. The wing is a bit tacky, I agree, and a complete cop magnet, but it's nothing that can't be removed. Not to mention that the RS variant doesn't come with one. The Evo isn't a sports car. It's a compact sports sedan. That's a huge niche that Mitsubishi and Subaru own. It's business and a great one.
ninjagod1337 5 years ago