If I would be attacked in a bar, street, etc... my main objective would be to get out of the situations as quickly as possible, therefore your comments make good sense to me. Knowing where to strike and be most effective is key.
LOL! I was actually listening until he said Taekwondo. Had me fooled for a second there. Furthermore, this video mostly serves to highlight his lack of understanding of the way modern jujitsu (non BJJ) is practised. Strikes are used to set up techniques and make them easier to apply. Also if you have control of someone you can use them as a barrier/human shield, find your exit, and get out.
That said, I agree that striking once can be much more efficient if successful with the first strike.
Really? So every guy you have ever struck went down? Either you have been in very few real fights or the people you were fighting were complete wimps. The "one strike, one kill" stuff is bullshit. Unless you have more striking power than iron mike it aint gonna happen.
I teach BJJ and I train Muay Thai, and yes there are times you never want to go to the ground. I worked the door at clubs. But the one strike and he is done stuff is crap.
i train 25 years martial arts. and the difference i make in fighting is.. knowing that the fight take place, and being in the fight instantly. for the first type of fighting is mma great, for the survival situation its better to practice reactive arts as karate, tkd, wing chun, petjak, etc
@mariusmasenas i would agree, true jujitsu is one of the more pure martial arts, encompassing everything from strikes to throws, and from grabs to reversals. and there is an abundance of techniques for defending against multiple attackers, quick "kills" that allow you to get one attacker down whilst you can move on to the next. at the end of the day though, any martial art will harden you & develop your control in a situation, and hopefully give you that slight advantage needed if attackd
True, and also the issue that the "streets" are rough, unforgiving, and the knees and elbows get cut up easily on asphalt. No one should ever desire to stay on the ground, but escape to their feet again. Too many rocks, sand, and dirt to be shoved into the eyes. Those skills on the ground are to be trained, but never to stay and "roll" in self defense.
alot of bjj instuctors teach for situations like this and alot of bjj is throws......... but to your point dont wanna end upon ground thats why i train in defendu and muay thai as well
I've done 18 years of Martial Arts training - in Karate, TKD and Ju Jitsu- and they get way too complicated way too soon.
I had a Buddy at Uni - an ex navy guy- showed me how to put all my 'White Belt Moves' into an effective Self Defense system. But once he left- it went all 'Madame Butterfly' again.
Most of us don't have the Agility/ Flexibilty it takes to do the High Belt moves- instructors would do well to remember 'KISS'- Keep It Simple Stupid.
#1. In jiujitsu, you don't have to go to the ground. there's plenty of things to do whilst standing.
#2. sometimes knocking someone's teeth out is a good idea, and sometimes you may want to end the encounter in a manner where destroying a guys face or teeth is not the best way to go about it. The reason you may not punch someone and would instead grapple, is not becuase of SPORTS, its because maybe you'd like to avoid jail or a lawsuit. Finishing fast is not always the best way to do things.
You need to develop a good takedown for grappling. You can put someone on their ass in a second using correctly developed techniquies. Striking is not always gauranteed to get the "one hit wonder" results. If you are ever put in a situation with a knife leave promptly.
thanks for the upload and your analysis, sir. i definitely don't want to roll around with an assailant. i believe it needs to be pointed out, though, that a well-rounded training regime is necessary for self-defense. one needs to be able to strike AND lock/restrain an assailant, as necessary. more traditional jujitsu incorporates strikes as well as locks and take downs. if one cross trained in both striking and grappling systems one will be more apt to defend one-self in most situations.
This is pretty accurate. I'm on my school's grappling team, but i would never intentionally go to the ground in a street fight. That's like asking to get kicked in the head. HOWEVER, bjj is incredibly useful if you end up going to the ground against your will, and you need to get someone off you. It's also useful if someone else grabs you. Basically, it's a great defense when things go wrong. So it's still very valuable.
I am not a TKD fan primarily because it has become such a silly sport based impractical system, but in the right hands and in the right mind set such as these gentlemen, it something I do respect. Again, its the fighter not the art... Respect to you guys!!!
i agree and i respect what i've heard in this video. but still every martial art has something to offer, it could be a fighting technique and the good thing here is the medicinal value of the technique. martial art can make you fit and healthy.
@ahumanweaponvideo Thank you for posting your videos. Just a note re: R.I.P TKD. I respect you and your words echo those of my instructors. In the UKTA (founded & still informed by 1st GM Rhee) we are taught self defence as a distinct discipline from competition sparring. The only thing that dissappointed me here was the lack of distinction between WTF and various ITF. All I know is that TKD as you describe seems alive to me in the heart ans spirit of our UKTA Senior masters and their students.
I personally respect Jiujitsu so does Ueshiba Morehei(founder of Aikido) who have been doing Jiujitsu since he was a kid.After decades of learning from various Jiujitsu master, he found himself with dilemma where he encounter some major problems in jiujitsu i.e multiple attacks, weapon attacks, lacking the 'ki' power etc.That was when Aikido was born.Aikido influenced so much by Jiujitsu but it is not for sports, MMA or UFC.It should be used wisely under certain circumstances.
I personally respect Jiujitsu so does Ueshiba Morehei(founder of Aikido) who have been doing Jiujitsu since he was a kid.After decades of learning from various Jiujitsu master, he found himself with dilemma where he encounter some major problems in jiujitsu i.e multiple attacks, weapon attacks, lacking the 'ki' power etc.That was when Aikido was born.Aikido influenced so much by Jiujitsu but it is not for sports, MMA or UFC.It should be used wisely under certain circumstances.
I can see this guys point, but the grab isnt compulsory in jujitsu. If there is another opponent involved, you just wouldnt use a grapple. You'd use a quick and powerful strike. Its just common sense. It depends on the person, not the martial art.
Although he made valid points about prolong tussling and grabbing - striking is oversold here. Striking may not necessarily work as well as protrayed in this clip. Strkes need accuracy plus it takes multiple strikes to knock someone out. Remember your attacker is not going to be passive and he can strike you as well.
If you are fighting some guy in the bar, chances are that he is not going to know jack about any kind of martial arts. This means that if you know any kind of martial art, you already have a big advantage over him and you will no doubt be able to defeat him regardless of your style.
If there are multiple people on his side trying to beat you up, your best defense is to run. each person after your opponent exponentially decreases your chances of winning the brawl. best defense is evasion.
okay, i get your point, there is a chance that the guy you are fighting will have a friend to step in. But you know what?, there is also a chance that the guy you are fighting can take a punch. One strike, or even multiple strikes for that matter wont always do the trick. There is also the chance that he has a gun, or a knife too. There are a million different variables in these kinds of scenarios, which equates to a million different reasons to not fight. In the end, any decent style will do.
In stable societies like America and the UK, most people are NOT overly concerned with personal safety that they are going to devote an intense amount of time just to learn to kill or be killed. They're going to want to get physical exercise, mental exercise, and some form of defensive technique, not just one thing. I do agree that the sport makes people not realize just how to stay safe in a fight, and regarding your other comments, WTF is bad, but ITF is still out there. Go check it out.
Mark fair enough and some of what you say i do agree with however, if you use the body of your opponent as a shield against other attackers this wold be one scenario where I believe the grabbing as you put it is invaluable. How do I know? Ive done it on many RL occasions and it worked flawlessly. So do I agree with go to ground against multiples NO! Do I agree with using a pain and body compliant tech to allow me to use him as shield against other definitely yes. JMO
ive done shotokan karate and bjj and the problem i have with this video is that, yes you dont want to go to the ground if there are multiple enemies, but if you dont train your strikes under the most rigorous of circumstances then they will not be as effective as you think. and to say that you will definently end the fight with one strike is very arrogant unless you are Mas Oyama. the best defense in a bar is to shove the closest enemy and then run.
00:43... "or try to control somebody... you can't strike"... Well that is just not true... you can headbutt... you can also knee him in the groin... It's dangerous to assume that you will be able to finish a fight with strikes alone. You do not want to end up on the ground, which is why you practice Jujitsu all the lot more... TKD doesn't give you any options after you end up on the ground. That's what will happen to you if your opponent is bigger and heavier or he has buddies with him.
trows grabs bjj ground fighting could help u if u got only one opponent but if u fight to defend yourself in bar where ur opponent has probably some friends around its better to use strikes and some arm locks to defend from grabs.My trainer who was one of the best in my country he work in special police unit and he told us he did used trows but only when he finish off all the other opponents and only one is left cuz trows do lots of damage to ppl who dont know how to fall when some1 trows u
after much doorwork and being involved in jujitsu for over 20 years i feel your comments on the video are that of somone who doesnt train in jujitsu properly.
please stop mixing up jujitsu with bjj.
grabbing and redirecting using biomechanics can be a lot more effective than actually striking them + add to that british law could see you being prosecuted as an attacker if just striking.
a grab could lead to a combination of things...throws, locks,solo takedowns and many numerous other things.
This guy has a great point toward sport based martial arts, such as certain schools of BJJ. However, Jujutsu's ( of Japanese origin, not Brazilian styled) focus is not about attacking but about utilizing the energy exerted toward you, no matter how many opponents are there. You could take the offense, but at that point it defeats the purpose of utilizing jujutsu and goes in the direction of what he says, you are better off utilizing an attack focused martial arts such as tae kwon-do or karate.
@ahumanweaponvideo I personally respect Jiujitsu so does Ueshiba Morehei(founder of Aikido) who have been doing Jiujitsu since he was a kid.After decades of learning from various Jiujitsu master, he found himself with dilemma where he encounter some major problems in jiujitsu i.e multiple attacks, weapon attacks, lacking the 'ki' power etc.That was when Aikido was born.Aikido influenced so much by Jiujitsu but it is not for sports, MMA or UFC.It should be used wisely under certain circumstances.
Everything thats been said is valid but I have two points to add. First if you want it to be one fight one technique, make sure that you train to make those techniques count. Secondly, Although striking arts are more effective in self defence situations, if the fight goes to the ground, you better have grappling skills or your in for a hard night.
I train in BJJ and Kickboxing. This video brings up a valid point . BJJ is more practical for one on one fighting. In scenario's that involve multiple opponents it is definitely better to rely more on striking power and foot work. The only thing I don't get is why TKD fighters have to tap every 2-3 seconds when they are faced with BJJ grapplers. Those high kicks and board breaking punches dont ever seem to do much good.
@RaVenousWarMaChine I really like your comment thanks.. Ok im so glad its been said by someone so here goes.. TKD kicks are pointless when used as flashy display and almost 100% of the kicks ive seen in the past 15 yrs have been misused as in delivered wrongly.. TKD guys study the aplications that the kicks have been developed for and forget all the hollywood glamour shit..Also breaking a .5 inch board with lightening speed shows nothing. TKD started dying in 1989 R.I.P TKD
@ahumanweaponvideo I've posted a comment below - just want to add (because I ran out of words) thank you again for your inspiring videos. I respect your words.
@ahumanweaponvideo Yet breaking two bricks with a gap between them shows something? You seem pretty ignorant toward other martial arts. Jujitsu for example has pleanty of techniques for dealing with multiple attackers and TKD studied properly over time is a fully comprehensive and progressive self defence system. You have also said previously that you lost respect for the grading system but you still wear your black belt....
I agree completely thats why i really like hapkido but jiu jitsu is really good if your ever stuck on the ground...Just gotta be able to take the useful techniques out of the handful of crap ones
Thanks for your input.. everyone will need some ground game but to risk being attacked by another person as your grapling is the danger which is why i say strike before grab unless theres just the 2 of you on a dessert island and you dont want to hurt the person only control them
well yeah i guess so. i havent been in any EXTREMELY INTENSE survival situations to learn that yet (so thanks ill keep that in mind)
but are you saying takedowns/sweeps in general are a waste of time/technique in a fight or only grabbing and throwing which takes longer than a couple of seconds
no sweeps are very very good if you can perform them correctly..working security for years and training teaching combat TKD not the post 90s sports shite
it is about being in a position of advantage with as litle risk to your self as possible.. grapling grabs strugles of any form put you more at risk then trying to destroy oponent with strikes be it head hands or legs
Your welcome.. people misread what im saying about grabs and graples, i love BJJ i just wouldnt use it for work or self protection unless i wanted to restrain without damage.. hope whatever training you do keeps you safe ..enjoy
im a second dan in ju jitsu and a blue belt in bjj this guy has a valid point. My views are different as will be anyone eles's thats a by product of being human. Good work mark keep it up
This guy can come across a little cocky, but if you get by that he has some good points. And perhaps a little cockiness is good in a fighter....JuJitsu is better for being grabbed; than doing the grabbing....
I have rarely seen even the most skilled of practitioners in the Striking Arts be able to "one punch knock out" anyone. Even in MMA where these guys come in having trained in striking arts like Muay Thai and deliver elbow strike after elbow strike or knee to the head after knee to the head and not knock out their opponent. These guys are in top fighting shape, and you expect me to believe that an overweight Tae Kwon Do blackbelt is going to one strike some young punk that is in his face.
your talking about sports jujitsu m8 like saying tai kwondo is no kicking to head
as for your one punch dont be silly unless its a lucky punch its not getting past my defence done martial arts for 30+ years and always gone back to jujitsu i will only throw some one when i need to get rid of the body if his m8 is coming for me i will use the body as a shild untell i am ready but one hit come on you havent throught this out
alright i get it u are talking about real life situation and using bjj ya it would be stupid bjj is more of a sport fighting style but i thought u were talking about all fighting styles like sambo , wrestling , but a grapple can be effective because u can use a single underhook and bash the guys head into something and clear the other guy because u would have a free hand and 2 legs so u could use a grappling in a real situation
I am not pin pointing any art, only the use of methods ie graple. I think your mistaken about being attacked thinking you can graple one and still be ready for the next guy! Unless the attackers are not attacking ? But simply being the foe
Fight after fight shows that it is very difficult to realistically expect to avoid the clinch. Most fights start in very close range. Few people square off outside punching range for a sucker punch or grab. Often you do not know there will be a fight until the first blow is launched.
There is no time to think before reacting to an attack. Real fight situation is more of a feel. It is more of a muscle memory response. You will FIGHT the WAY you TRAIN. Problems with some system is that they adapt to much aesthetic moves for COMBAT. Martial Arts training concepts are basically divided into three categories which are CLASSICS (Forms), SPORTS (Controlled/limitations), COMBAT (Survival). In the streets nobody scores you points or will disqualify you for a foul.
Use a combination technique instead. Striking someone who is prepared will likely counter you easy. First guy to initiate an attack either with a strike or a grab is open for a good counter technique. First guy who can inflict a damaging technique wins. Does not matter if its a strike, lock, choke, kick or bite...COMMON SENSE is a good weapon...:-)
Because all martial arts are much more profound than just "this one kicks, this one grabs, etc", I believe everyone should consider practice/study several martial arts, not just to be able to judge what works or what doesn't in a certain case, but also to at least become more complete fighting-wise than when you knew only 1 art and to be able to overcome a wider range of any given situations.
Its good to defend what you believe, but as long as you keep an opened mind.
I agree with some things that Mark has said about a real situation, but not entirely. I love martial arts, personally I have trained 7 arts and I have no specific preference. The reason is simple, different problems-different solutions, and as every martial artist (master or not) knows there is no such thing as the perfect and/or complete martial art.
In the end knowing only one art is NOT going to be enough to cover every angle. And TDK is just not enough to even cover its own "area".
In a perfect fight this guy is absolutely right. However, we've had over a decade of very public nearly real fighting to show us that people don't always lie down after the first strike, and that grabbing often occurs whether you think you won't be grabbed or not.
What do you do when your strike fails to do the job and it gets messy? A spinning kick? You've got to know how to handle each phase of a fight. Tae kwon do handles striking. Not enough.
I was liking what you said untill the spinning kick comment!! TKD is not what your seeing, all your seeing is silly sport shite. TKD has 65% hand techs the kicks have ben made sensational crap effective for nothing but exhibition
The TKD of the past 20yrs has been financialy focused so the martial was taken from the system making it simply a fun silly way to make people think they learn to fihght or defend whilst the big cheeses get rich.. TKD is an amazing fight system that has no ambassador anymore..IE TKD f###ed itself for money
ya but you do make a good point about people not doing one strike one finish I mean why try to wrestle him to the ground when you can strike him
but what if the guy is betting the life out of u and u can't strike back somehow the only thing u can do is grapple should u do it i mean u can grapple throw and not hit the ground with him so that is one less guy u will have to deal with
yeah i compltly agree... but the why not both put them into a submition then strkie... but im in london ont. and im looking for some kind of jujitzu... any 1 know of a place
aghhh aghhh fuk u aghh aghhh.. nice But seriously these are great things to speak about on youtube. I can safely say the only time id use jujitsu is if in fact im grabbed from the back and tried to be choked or if i was too close and i got grabbed id try to create a trap and trip situation if possible. Other then that i cant say using grappling is the safest method especially being that treanton is righ down the street lol
well what meant by what i said was when you strike the first guy out then the second guy grabs you wouldn't you have to throw the other guy to the ground then strike him and knock him out
You dont have to go to ground to break free do you and so you dont need to go to ground to strike, Any ways causing your attacker to be on the ground is your goal but just dont follow him is all im saying
Well, TBH... its a little sad seeing someone who is an instructor doing the 'the best technique is this one' routine...
All martial arts systems have something to offer (even if it's only getting a good breakfall developed), it's just a matter of applying what you know and testing it within various scenarios to see if it works and making adjustments to the method used until it does work ... in short... always have a plan B... or a very VERY effective plan A...much of jujitsu is like this..
Hey thanks for your input, To say i was saying the best tech is this and that is missing my point i feel. Every situation will be different and you should do what you feel is best. I myself feel to go to ground is much more dangerous than to evade and counter strike. Never have any plan be it a-b-c or whatever as conflict require instant improvising
true, I concur that deliberately going to the ground is dumb. However, with the best will in the world... no strike is 100% effective every time (ditto for locks/hold.throws BTW )... and gravity can be your enemy as much as it can be your ally during a throw if your footing is wrong... groundwork is simply another wrench in the toolbox, I don't advocate it, but I accept the need to have the skill there... even if (especially in many ways) it's a 'get up and go' basic escape from holds
I think that you should never bring a fight to the ground, there is no point. But, you should know as much ground fighting as you can in case you're opponent takes the fight to the ground.
I agree to an extent. I train in DanzanRyu Jujitsu and MCMAP it's not all about going to the ground, you must have situational awareness. Knowing your art and knowing when to use what is the key. Not all situations are the same. Stay standing stay alive by any means necessary. Not all martial arts (including striking arts) teach things that are street worthy. Be aware of what is being taught and learn the techniques "proper" application. Thanks for the vid...
Agreed to a certain extent. You need to train or at least be familar with all aspects of fighting. If you can knock a guy out right away, great, that should be your number one priority... if it is available. That's not always the case though. No one should restrict themselves to a "style" or "way" because every style has something to offer. For example, you use a bar scene situation... lets say you're walking home alone in a park a single person jumps you who is much bigger and stronger then
You should always be aware of your surroundings so being jumped cant happen!If your crossing a park you should walk as central as possible giving you maximum chance of evasion or flight if need be. Bigger and stronger isnt a factor to a skilled person as much as to a non skilled one
i agree somewhat.. but if its just one person... then grabs are okay.. but if its two... i think you should learn more about fighting two people than just one.. but if you get one down grabs are okay like.. grabbing then going into sweep.. because they are designed to be done fast... not slow enough for the other guy to get back up and start beating u up..just think about it..
Without seeming rude! Dont you think i have thought about it??? If you think with 2 attackers you can grab floor and imobolize then be ready for the next guy im sorry but where do you live? I have been training 30 yrs and have come across most situations in my time as security personel and as ive said before sport fighting and street attacks are very different! Please anilize your theory and get back to me
no i mean like throwing them down first so you have a few seconds to hit the other guy.. yes i take bjj krav maga and judo and with a mix you can pull it off... i live in texas btw
Even though I'm a jujutsu practisioner myself, I can't argue with you. What you are saying makes sense! I believe that the
grab defenses of jujutsu come from ancient times where a grab was a real life attack. That's not so much the case these days. Daito-ryu aikijujutsu is my favorite martial art,but the majority of its techniques are from being grabbed.
Hey thanks for your comment, I do alitle JJ training with different guys from NZ and Brazil and i think its fantastic and realy enjoy studying it, What i will say is the more i train JJ the more i stand by my comments on grabs grapple and take downs simply because if your not aware of being stabbed or cut why risk it and simply strike when in range. Ring craft and street craft are similar as are the zebra and horse
Mark-have you ever seen Sanuces ryu jujitsu? It is a modernized Japaneses style of jujitsu that hold to many of the same principles of the "multi opponent" situations you speak of in this video. You are right on in what you are saying and this style (sanuces) addresses just what you are talking about...it's great stuff you should look it up!
generaly agree, though the same Ju-jitsu teaches striking (atemi). Moreover, in a close environment like a crowded disco you may want to be able to counter a typical bully push (equilibrium), deflect a strike etc. And of course free yourself from a grab, especially for ladies. I personally hit and run only if forced by situation, for legal issues.
i agree one 100% with the strike first statement throws and grappling in selfdefence should happen if you get grabbed myself i find judo and karate a good combination
having worked clubs, private security and then military I learned this way is the best. You must remain mobile and control the area not just the player. I used to tell my guys in the Army to control the show not just the actors. If you are in one spot more then 2 seconds you are a puching bag.
as a 25 year JKD concepts person (notice the word expert isn't in there) you can't think that a fight is never going to the ground ? Jujitsu may not be all there is to fighting but I'm still glad I've got ground skill AND a stand up game not just one or the other! .........just a thought.
Mark, I completely mirror your sentiments. It's true that grappling isn't always the best way to handle a situation, though the more closed-minded grappling practitioners out there would regard such talk as complete heresy. It's effective, but not in all circumstances.
I also agree that quite a number of modern day martial artists trip themselves up by focusing too much on the sport aspect, rather than the original purpose of efficiently neutralizing the opponent.
Mark --- Your point is well taken. But from my perspective, jujitsu is a Japanese combat / self-defense art, not a sport art devoid of striking. Jujitsu open-hand techniques are metaphors for weapon strikes, and samurai protocol was deadliest longer-range weapon first (swords and open hands were later/last resort weapons): so as a traditional jujutsuka, I agree that striking should be first and be devastating! We grab from strikes to drive the attacker into the ground: the hardest strike of all!
yes but the ground is for the other guy not you. just incase there is more than one. in southern California only dead people go down. you better be ready for the next move.
Additionally, multiple opponents are not going to stand in line to be hit. They will come at you all at once, if they are half smart and have intent to harm. No style of fighting is completely effective against multiple opponents. What you see in the movies (guy getting punched, then used as a shield to block the other guys) is cliche and misleading. Having spent my share of days in a bar, I can tell you most fights are one on one and 90% of them end up on the ground.
that 90% isnt true. how can you work out that statistic? do you stand and watch every one on one fight in the world and works out these stats? no cos its a lie. ive been to many self defence seminars and they all say the same thing as mark. ground fighting is suicide in the streets, grappling is asking to be knifed. my fatther was a bouncer and he told me exactly the same ground fighting will get you killed.
learn paralax evasion. with multiple opponents this simple idea can save you from fighting more than one person at once. its extremely effective. you just have to be fit lol.
With all due respect to Mark Miller, he is referring to sport style BJJ, not the original fighting style BJJ practiced by Helio and his brothers. The original fighting BJJ concentrated on Vale Tudo (anything goes style of fighting) which included kicks and strikes. More specifically, it utilized Japanese Jiu Jitsu (judo) for close combat throws. A punch to the stomach might hurt, but a throw to the ground breaking your hip or giving you a concussion is a much more dramatic way to end a fight.
Hey mark just curious, are you an instructor at your training hall and where is it? The web site on the info part doesnt work. BTW totally agree with everything you say, you remind me so much of my cheif instructor.
this video is implying that grabbling is the only option.
what if you strike and it doesn't work the first time. Then the attacker clinches your shirt as a self defense reaction, at that point the fight has evolved into a grabbling fight, whether you like or not. Then your grabbling skills are required.
it's true that if the attack has a buddy next to him, then you are finished. Yet, grabbling is still needed b/c fighters that know grabbling will have a higher chance to escape.
I agree that grappling arts are not good for the streets, because most guys that are causing trouble come with friends... But an art like Hapkido immobalizes quickly and continues with awareness of their whereabouts. What do you think?
I love to graple and do see the benefits of knowing how but from the experience of life ive had i agree with you and this is why i say its better to learn to strike for street not sport
comes from the sword, you cant have 2 hits with that its one hit one kill death no half measures cause if u do u will die and ju jutsu should never ever be about wrestling thats wot wrestling is, ju jutsu you yield, punch the crap out of him etc until hes nearly dead anyway, then throw him to kill him nothing more,
It's easy to understand why mark came to this conclusion, it is the ultimate aim of the percussive arts just to hit you and bugger off effectively however, brazilian ju jutsu is a sport, so i will ignore that however real jutsu actually works on exactly the same principal as the percussive arts because the point is to destroy your oppenent, its not about hiting him then walking off, its a battlefield art, its about destroying him in every sense of the word, then pissing on him ju jutsu
the point is that most fights dont end with one punch. clearly it is optimal to ko someone immediately, and is so obvious that it needn't be mentioned. if we are assuming there is going to be more than one opponent, your chances of being tied up increase anyway, especially in the confines of a club. jujitsu (Brazilian) philosophy is concerned primarily with positional domination, getting to a position where you can finish or flee; with that in mind, why are we in the club in the first place??
I do Jujitsu and this guy has a point, kind of. I do Kempo Jujitsu which is a traditional style, we work on grabs and locks yes but the biggest thing we work on is practical self defence. Also i started doing Krav Maga about a year and a half ago and that style teaches '' A natural and instinctive response to violence'' and it works very well. In a club or a CQC situation jujitsu can be used only as a tool when needed but it is important to finish a ''situation'' as fast as possible.
good point but misdirected: Mark describes the usual Brazilian Jujutsu martial arts, but not all Jujutsu styles endorse going to the ground. Some Jujutsu styles advocate exactly what Mark was describing: one strike, don't go to the ground, fight multiple attackers while standing. All points were good, but misdirected against Jujutsu in general.
mark is absolutely correct... i am a bouncer that has a black belt in ju-jitsu, i also box and do krav maga....... You get get in an altercation in a pub you are fighting THAT guy and anyone else who wants a poke at you..... STICK AND MOVE.grapple only as last resort to remove threat.. good lookin out mark
Can you garuntee that you can knock anyone out with the first strike, no matter how big or strong? i doubt it. I study jikishin ju jitsu and we train in all aspects of figting. No one fighting system is the best thats why ufc guys crosstrain, what are you going to do if someone takes you down, if you havent trained for it, what if someone is a better stand up fighter than you are ?. Are you telling me that you can beat any number of assailants, they dont queue up like in the movies.
I can garauntee that no moatter how big small fast slow or any style if i put my thumb in thier eye they cant see!! The more the people the more they get in each others way. I know how people attack a single person when they are multiples and TKD but not 99% of the tkd youve seen is the best to deal with it.I study JJ simply to know how to defend best against it or other grapling systems.
yeah, if you do put your thumb in someones eye then yeah the wont be able to see. The problem with techniques like that nowadays though is liability issues.
Ju Jitsu and BJJ are aimed for the purpose of controlling your opponent and using leverage rather than brute strength to outfight and counter your opponent similar to that of wrestling and judo. The main problem with these martial arts is that they are mostly intended to be used in a 1v1 situation and not when fighting against groups. You want to learn how to strike quick and powerfully do TKD JKD or Muay Thai - then you will be most ready for the street fighting atmosphere.
The only thing I might disagree with is that you can strike someone while at the same time having control of them, and having control of one guy can be useful versus multiple.
Also purely striking is not as much of a sure thing, in my opinion, cuz you can miss and/or it could be blocked. Whereas a lock can be used to steer a person so their that there buddy hits them instead of you with the beer bottle hehe. Also a lock can cause breakage/dislocation which obviously finishes.
I hold a black belt in tkd and have competed for 15 years in kickoxing, and have been in well over 2 dozens street fights, with sometimes multiple attackers. Problem with theory is you wont knock the person out one shot 90% of the time and you will be grabbed. However do support if space invaded, strike first, grapple later.
I absolutely agree with what is being said in this video. i for one have trained in wing chun and love how quick and effective it is by using multiple stikes rapidly to take out an opponent. the only problem i have with this video, is that the criticism of grabbing ishould not be blamed on ju jutsu, but of BJJ - which is an art that focuses solely on one part of ju jitsu - grappling and ground work. traditional jujitsu uses alot more strikes/kicks/locks/arm breaks/throw downs etc.
Well, to answer in part the question "Why would you grab somebody when you can strike them?"
-Grabbing someone offers levels of response. Striking is...striking...with all the legal implications that carries. You can escalate a grab...you can't de-escalate a strike
-Grabbing offers you the opportunity to use one person as a shield against another.
i don't think about any leagel action during a street fight i just wanna stay alive but i agree that grappling has very effective uses in selfdefense this guy is also currect people only think about martial arts as it relates to mma they need to break that kind of thinking and open their minds
you have to learn to do these things with lots of practice and good tuition, also do your best not to get in a situation that you are confronted by a group,many a dead hero!!
I've seen enough footage of grapplers being sparked out or getting in close and negating the attack of a "striker" to believe that one approach is any better than another.
I think, of course, that you cannot give a decisive answer to the question, "what preference/style is best?"
I train in Ju Jitsu because I believe it gives a balanced approach to combat. I would not put myself on the floor on purpose but having said that we do train for that eventuality.
k. I totaly Would love to agree. Grapling, wrestling and Bjj are all sport fighting, and are not the focuse here right. I beleve the one Techneque finnisher, but i like to use graples, let gravity do the work for me, let the motion of the grpple to take a moment and view your suroundings. I am not however a belever that strikes will always work. A solid knowledge of graples can result in falls that break arms, legs, necks. So there is a verry good reasen to get aquanted with them.
Is this referring to ground fighting jujitsu? i.e Brazilian Jujitsu? Cuz at our club we are not encouraged to go to the ground, and its certainly not all throws. I need to take up boxing or something similar.
He makes a point. But he is not knowingly referring to the Judo/ JuJitsu that he and the Vast majority of the public had seen which is post 1880's "peace time" jujitsu. Truth be told Old School Japanese JuJitsu has some of the best multiple attacker defense available. We always strike, rarely do we "grab" instead we lock/ dis-locate all of which is done with one hand to leave the other free to block & strike, His point is valid that you don't just want to "grab".
when do you ever start grappling/wrestling on an opponent who still has full energy?
Of course you would want to deal some damage first, especially if your opponent appears to be taller, stronger or physically more fit than you are. So in a real life situation you would want to try to deal some fast hard damage then go in for "crowd control" before he knows what took him down (if you are obliged to do for example as a security and restricted by laws) or try to get the hell outta there.
I find that Judo/Jujitsu is useful for balance and close quarters control (of the situation).
You can at least acknowledge the usefulness of something like judo as a supplement to striking.
While I agree with striking as among the better options, it feels a little too simple for the situation you described. Even when striking proper, it's still possible to be out muscled.
BTW, the form of Judo I'm familiar with involves takedowns without taking yourself down as jujitsu fighters seem to enjoy.
yes. My background in wrestling has immensely helped me to have better close-quarters striking control. It is also useful to know grappling just in case someone grabs YOU and you need to get away. However, it is always better to strike and remain on your feet (many traditional Jujitsu practitioners would agree I think). This is definitely Jim Harrison's thought too (one of the two men Bruce Lee said he would least like to fight in a dark alley). But grappling is still useful to know.
your a funny man haha, lol its not all about grabbing someone in jujitsu, smash through all my opponents with a couple of hits and then when ur left im gonna grab and break ur arm in half and then stick it in your asshole..
to those talking about steven sagal, no, just because steven does something cool in a movie, doesn't mean he's invincible. that's pretty naive.
i think the jujutsu referred to on the video is more specifically brazilian jujutsu. note that jujutsu was brought to brazil after WW2, and many things were not taught. what I study follows this thought exactly, and we do not want to struggle and be 'caught in a fight'. the objective is pragmatism, simplicity, and ending a confrontation instantly.
Going to the ground in almost any real fight is risky at best suicidal at worse. Grabbing also not recommended, however Jujitsu not BJJ but Jujitsu, employs locks strike,rediretion etc. If you only strike an adversery who has a high tolerance for pain he may be back to start the fight over again in seconds, he and his buddy. I may want to strike and lock him to us as a human shield against his buddy. But not just that,situtuation arise where you need to control a person not just batter them.
If you think someone has a tolerance for pain you are hiting them in the wrong place with the wrong tool!! You dont need to hold someone to use tem as a shield if you know how t menover your self.thanks for the comment
Wise words Poeticfavor. I think strikes are very important. Not going to the ground in a street fight is also important however, sometimes we may not have a choice. Perhaps we are the one to be taken off guard and down to the ground. To be a great street fighter you need to develop more than just counting on a single strike to do enough damage to end the fight. Don't forget that person you're hitting also has a brain and eyesight and probably doesn't want to be hit.
Are people missing whats being said here? Im saying about grabbing weather BJJ or any other art useing the grab technique!! I am not saying JJ is no good it is simply a point made against a tech that seems to be held in high regard that will get you killed in a violent situation.Yes i know that all arts have striking and again comes to the point of if in a gang fight dont go to the ground!!
If I would be attacked in a bar, street, etc... my main objective would be to get out of the situations as quickly as possible, therefore your comments make good sense to me. Knowing where to strike and be most effective is key.
2arunout 5 months ago
LOL! I was actually listening until he said Taekwondo. Had me fooled for a second there. Furthermore, this video mostly serves to highlight his lack of understanding of the way modern jujitsu (non BJJ) is practised. Strikes are used to set up techniques and make them easier to apply. Also if you have control of someone you can use them as a barrier/human shield, find your exit, and get out.
That said, I agree that striking once can be much more efficient if successful with the first strike.
shredicon86 5 months ago
"if you strike them they are finished"
Really? So every guy you have ever struck went down? Either you have been in very few real fights or the people you were fighting were complete wimps. The "one strike, one kill" stuff is bullshit. Unless you have more striking power than iron mike it aint gonna happen.
I teach BJJ and I train Muay Thai, and yes there are times you never want to go to the ground. I worked the door at clubs. But the one strike and he is done stuff is crap.
dragonballjiujitsu 6 months ago
i train 25 years martial arts. and the difference i make in fighting is.. knowing that the fight take place, and being in the fight instantly. for the first type of fighting is mma great, for the survival situation its better to practice reactive arts as karate, tkd, wing chun, petjak, etc
samurai184 6 months ago
jujitsu it is the best ,,,
mariusmasenas 8 months ago
@mariusmasenas i would agree, true jujitsu is one of the more pure martial arts, encompassing everything from strikes to throws, and from grabs to reversals. and there is an abundance of techniques for defending against multiple attackers, quick "kills" that allow you to get one attacker down whilst you can move on to the next. at the end of the day though, any martial art will harden you & develop your control in a situation, and hopefully give you that slight advantage needed if attackd
OdhranM 5 months ago
True, and also the issue that the "streets" are rough, unforgiving, and the knees and elbows get cut up easily on asphalt. No one should ever desire to stay on the ground, but escape to their feet again. Too many rocks, sand, and dirt to be shoved into the eyes. Those skills on the ground are to be trained, but never to stay and "roll" in self defense.
lightseeker85 9 months ago
alot of bjj instuctors teach for situations like this and alot of bjj is throws......... but to your point dont wanna end upon ground thats why i train in defendu and muay thai as well
3000dream 10 months ago
I agree entirely.
I've done 18 years of Martial Arts training - in Karate, TKD and Ju Jitsu- and they get way too complicated way too soon.
I had a Buddy at Uni - an ex navy guy- showed me how to put all my 'White Belt Moves' into an effective Self Defense system. But once he left- it went all 'Madame Butterfly' again.
Most of us don't have the Agility/ Flexibilty it takes to do the High Belt moves- instructors would do well to remember 'KISS'- Keep It Simple Stupid.
flashart 11 months ago
#1. In jiujitsu, you don't have to go to the ground. there's plenty of things to do whilst standing.
#2. sometimes knocking someone's teeth out is a good idea, and sometimes you may want to end the encounter in a manner where destroying a guys face or teeth is not the best way to go about it. The reason you may not punch someone and would instead grapple, is not becuase of SPORTS, its because maybe you'd like to avoid jail or a lawsuit. Finishing fast is not always the best way to do things.
Ki11bot 11 months ago
You need to develop a good takedown for grappling. You can put someone on their ass in a second using correctly developed techniquies. Striking is not always gauranteed to get the "one hit wonder" results. If you are ever put in a situation with a knife leave promptly.
zed13281 1 year ago
The point is how many type of jiu jitsu there is and some have alot of striking in the traditional ones
sexoja23 1 year ago
Most JuJitsu techniques involve a strike to loosen them up for a takedown.
BrotherBones1111 1 year ago 2
thanks for the upload and your analysis, sir. i definitely don't want to roll around with an assailant. i believe it needs to be pointed out, though, that a well-rounded training regime is necessary for self-defense. one needs to be able to strike AND lock/restrain an assailant, as necessary. more traditional jujitsu incorporates strikes as well as locks and take downs. if one cross trained in both striking and grappling systems one will be more apt to defend one-self in most situations.
pricklypear96 1 year ago
This is pretty accurate. I'm on my school's grappling team, but i would never intentionally go to the ground in a street fight. That's like asking to get kicked in the head. HOWEVER, bjj is incredibly useful if you end up going to the ground against your will, and you need to get someone off you. It's also useful if someone else grabs you. Basically, it's a great defense when things go wrong. So it's still very valuable.
jimmyboo121 1 year ago
I am not a TKD fan primarily because it has become such a silly sport based impractical system, but in the right hands and in the right mind set such as these gentlemen, it something I do respect. Again, its the fighter not the art... Respect to you guys!!!
BushidoBudo9000 1 year ago
i agree and i respect what i've heard in this video. but still every martial art has something to offer, it could be a fighting technique and the good thing here is the medicinal value of the technique. martial art can make you fit and healthy.
giep4492 1 year ago
@ahumanweaponvideo Thank you for posting your videos. Just a note re: R.I.P TKD. I respect you and your words echo those of my instructors. In the UKTA (founded & still informed by 1st GM Rhee) we are taught self defence as a distinct discipline from competition sparring. The only thing that dissappointed me here was the lack of distinction between WTF and various ITF. All I know is that TKD as you describe seems alive to me in the heart ans spirit of our UKTA Senior masters and their students.
Sonkaldo27 1 year ago
I personally respect Jiujitsu so does Ueshiba Morehei(founder of Aikido) who have been doing Jiujitsu since he was a kid.After decades of learning from various Jiujitsu master, he found himself with dilemma where he encounter some major problems in jiujitsu i.e multiple attacks, weapon attacks, lacking the 'ki' power etc.That was when Aikido was born.Aikido influenced so much by Jiujitsu but it is not for sports, MMA or UFC.It should be used wisely under certain circumstances.
syimang 1 year ago
I personally respect Jiujitsu so does Ueshiba Morehei(founder of Aikido) who have been doing Jiujitsu since he was a kid.After decades of learning from various Jiujitsu master, he found himself with dilemma where he encounter some major problems in jiujitsu i.e multiple attacks, weapon attacks, lacking the 'ki' power etc.That was when Aikido was born.Aikido influenced so much by Jiujitsu but it is not for sports, MMA or UFC.It should be used wisely under certain circumstances.
syimang 1 year ago
I can see this guys point, but the grab isnt compulsory in jujitsu. If there is another opponent involved, you just wouldnt use a grapple. You'd use a quick and powerful strike. Its just common sense. It depends on the person, not the martial art.
yozzer56 1 year ago
Most good forms of ju-jitsu include many strikes, we hardly ever teach any takedown techniques without inflicting good damage first.
OCReynier 1 year ago
Although he made valid points about prolong tussling and grabbing - striking is oversold here. Striking may not necessarily work as well as protrayed in this clip. Strkes need accuracy plus it takes multiple strikes to knock someone out. Remember your attacker is not going to be passive and he can strike you as well.
iwant2bnice 1 year ago
1 hit knockouts are LOVED in sports. i dont understand your argument
RabidxPanda 1 year ago
If you are fighting some guy in the bar, chances are that he is not going to know jack about any kind of martial arts. This means that if you know any kind of martial art, you already have a big advantage over him and you will no doubt be able to defeat him regardless of your style.
If there are multiple people on his side trying to beat you up, your best defense is to run. each person after your opponent exponentially decreases your chances of winning the brawl. best defense is evasion.
luchador1764 1 year ago
okay, i get your point, there is a chance that the guy you are fighting will have a friend to step in. But you know what?, there is also a chance that the guy you are fighting can take a punch. One strike, or even multiple strikes for that matter wont always do the trick. There is also the chance that he has a gun, or a knife too. There are a million different variables in these kinds of scenarios, which equates to a million different reasons to not fight. In the end, any decent style will do.
luchador1764 1 year ago
In stable societies like America and the UK, most people are NOT overly concerned with personal safety that they are going to devote an intense amount of time just to learn to kill or be killed. They're going to want to get physical exercise, mental exercise, and some form of defensive technique, not just one thing. I do agree that the sport makes people not realize just how to stay safe in a fight, and regarding your other comments, WTF is bad, but ITF is still out there. Go check it out.
thefinnlord 1 year ago
Mark fair enough and some of what you say i do agree with however, if you use the body of your opponent as a shield against other attackers this wold be one scenario where I believe the grabbing as you put it is invaluable. How do I know? Ive done it on many RL occasions and it worked flawlessly. So do I agree with go to ground against multiples NO! Do I agree with using a pain and body compliant tech to allow me to use him as shield against other definitely yes. JMO
Nicely xplained Mark
TimA340 1 year ago
Hooah! I dont do TKD but I agree fully.
Why wrestle when you can do an eye jab and flee.
BigRoma1 1 year ago
ive done shotokan karate and bjj and the problem i have with this video is that, yes you dont want to go to the ground if there are multiple enemies, but if you dont train your strikes under the most rigorous of circumstances then they will not be as effective as you think. and to say that you will definently end the fight with one strike is very arrogant unless you are Mas Oyama. the best defense in a bar is to shove the closest enemy and then run.
JGSH13 1 year ago
00:43... "or try to control somebody... you can't strike"... Well that is just not true... you can headbutt... you can also knee him in the groin... It's dangerous to assume that you will be able to finish a fight with strikes alone. You do not want to end up on the ground, which is why you practice Jujitsu all the lot more... TKD doesn't give you any options after you end up on the ground. That's what will happen to you if your opponent is bigger and heavier or he has buddies with him.
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
trows grabs bjj ground fighting could help u if u got only one opponent but if u fight to defend yourself in bar where ur opponent has probably some friends around its better to use strikes and some arm locks to defend from grabs.My trainer who was one of the best in my country he work in special police unit and he told us he did used trows but only when he finish off all the other opponents and only one is left cuz trows do lots of damage to ppl who dont know how to fall when some1 trows u
onitnor 1 year ago
after much doorwork and being involved in jujitsu for over 20 years i feel your comments on the video are that of somone who doesnt train in jujitsu properly.
please stop mixing up jujitsu with bjj.
grabbing and redirecting using biomechanics can be a lot more effective than actually striking them + add to that british law could see you being prosecuted as an attacker if just striking.
a grab could lead to a combination of things...throws, locks,solo takedowns and many numerous other things.
freindlyninja 1 year ago
Hahaha, how wrong is this guy?
1. Jiu Jitsu uses nearly no "over powering" techniques
2. Tae Kwon Doe? Are you kidding?
Curatalo506 1 year ago
This guy has a great point toward sport based martial arts, such as certain schools of BJJ. However, Jujutsu's ( of Japanese origin, not Brazilian styled) focus is not about attacking but about utilizing the energy exerted toward you, no matter how many opponents are there. You could take the offense, but at that point it defeats the purpose of utilizing jujutsu and goes in the direction of what he says, you are better off utilizing an attack focused martial arts such as tae kwon-do or karate.
ngough 1 year ago
MMA is a sport just like football or swimming. If you want to learn how to fight then you have to practice for that..... not sports.
Mattjudo26 1 year ago 6
@Mattjudo26 ...true
ahumanweaponvideo 1 year ago
@ahumanweaponvideo I personally respect Jiujitsu so does Ueshiba Morehei(founder of Aikido) who have been doing Jiujitsu since he was a kid.After decades of learning from various Jiujitsu master, he found himself with dilemma where he encounter some major problems in jiujitsu i.e multiple attacks, weapon attacks, lacking the 'ki' power etc.That was when Aikido was born.Aikido influenced so much by Jiujitsu but it is not for sports, MMA or UFC.It should be used wisely under certain circumstances.
syimang 1 year ago
Everything thats been said is valid but I have two points to add. First if you want it to be one fight one technique, make sure that you train to make those techniques count. Secondly, Although striking arts are more effective in self defence situations, if the fight goes to the ground, you better have grappling skills or your in for a hard night.
Live peacefully with everyone- Romans 12:18
zyk21 1 year ago
I train in BJJ and Kickboxing. This video brings up a valid point . BJJ is more practical for one on one fighting. In scenario's that involve multiple opponents it is definitely better to rely more on striking power and foot work. The only thing I don't get is why TKD fighters have to tap every 2-3 seconds when they are faced with BJJ grapplers. Those high kicks and board breaking punches dont ever seem to do much good.
RaVenousWarMaChine 1 year ago
@RaVenousWarMaChine I really like your comment thanks.. Ok im so glad its been said by someone so here goes.. TKD kicks are pointless when used as flashy display and almost 100% of the kicks ive seen in the past 15 yrs have been misused as in delivered wrongly.. TKD guys study the aplications that the kicks have been developed for and forget all the hollywood glamour shit..Also breaking a .5 inch board with lightening speed shows nothing. TKD started dying in 1989 R.I.P TKD
ahumanweaponvideo 1 year ago
@ahumanweaponvideo I've posted a comment below - just want to add (because I ran out of words) thank you again for your inspiring videos. I respect your words.
Sonkaldo27 1 year ago
@ahumanweaponvideo Yet breaking two bricks with a gap between them shows something? You seem pretty ignorant toward other martial arts. Jujitsu for example has pleanty of techniques for dealing with multiple attackers and TKD studied properly over time is a fully comprehensive and progressive self defence system. You have also said previously that you lost respect for the grading system but you still wear your black belt....
Easyandy100 8 months ago
@ahumanweaponvideo The worst thing thatever happened to martial arts was to become even slightly involved with movies.
will00117 7 months ago
supper video supper advice :)
shavanthawee 1 year ago
I agree completely thats why i really like hapkido but jiu jitsu is really good if your ever stuck on the ground...Just gotta be able to take the useful techniques out of the handful of crap ones
lilsm555 1 year ago
favorited.although grabs and chokes do work well in street fights on a 1 vs 1. (i have video proof)
SomeMartialArtsGuy 1 year ago
Thanks for your input.. everyone will need some ground game but to risk being attacked by another person as your grapling is the danger which is why i say strike before grab unless theres just the 2 of you on a dessert island and you dont want to hurt the person only control them
ahumanweaponvideo 1 year ago
@ahumanweaponvideo
well yeah i guess so. i havent been in any EXTREMELY INTENSE survival situations to learn that yet (so thanks ill keep that in mind)
but are you saying takedowns/sweeps in general are a waste of time/technique in a fight or only grabbing and throwing which takes longer than a couple of seconds
SomeMartialArtsGuy 1 year ago
no sweeps are very very good if you can perform them correctly..working security for years and training teaching combat TKD not the post 90s sports shite
it is about being in a position of advantage with as litle risk to your self as possible.. grapling grabs strugles of any form put you more at risk then trying to destroy oponent with strikes be it head hands or legs
ahumanweaponvideo 1 year ago
Ah thank you.!
SomeMartialArtsGuy 1 year ago
Your welcome.. people misread what im saying about grabs and graples, i love BJJ i just wouldnt use it for work or self protection unless i wanted to restrain without damage.. hope whatever training you do keeps you safe ..enjoy
ahumanweaponvideo 1 year ago
What happens if you miss a punch or an attacker takes your punch and he gets you to the ground and is a good grappler then what?
fighttime69 1 year ago
@fighttime69 Then you`re buddy is going to smack a bottle in his back xD
dustargentum 1 year ago
yeah your right
correz08 1 year ago
gotta love the Brits!
sethbateman 2 years ago
im a second dan in ju jitsu and a blue belt in bjj this guy has a valid point. My views are different as will be anyone eles's thats a by product of being human. Good work mark keep it up
gracielover6379 2 years ago
Hello Mark,
love your insight..i am old school trained-1 shot, 1 kill...
wtlifter2009 2 years ago
This guy can come across a little cocky, but if you get by that he has some good points. And perhaps a little cockiness is good in a fighter....JuJitsu is better for being grabbed; than doing the grabbing....
BJJHomos 2 years ago 4
@BJJHomos "JuJitsu is better for being grabbed; than doing the grabbing...."
Bingo! Although I would say Judo is better for being grabbed than Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, lol, but of course I would say that.
patio87 1 year ago
I have rarely seen even the most skilled of practitioners in the Striking Arts be able to "one punch knock out" anyone. Even in MMA where these guys come in having trained in striking arts like Muay Thai and deliver elbow strike after elbow strike or knee to the head after knee to the head and not knock out their opponent. These guys are in top fighting shape, and you expect me to believe that an overweight Tae Kwon Do blackbelt is going to one strike some young punk that is in his face.
utex2413 2 years ago
your talking about sports jujitsu m8 like saying tai kwondo is no kicking to head
as for your one punch dont be silly unless its a lucky punch its not getting past my defence done martial arts for 30+ years and always gone back to jujitsu i will only throw some one when i need to get rid of the body if his m8 is coming for me i will use the body as a shild untell i am ready but one hit come on you havent throught this out
HELBLAZER118 2 years ago
alright i get it u are talking about real life situation and using bjj ya it would be stupid bjj is more of a sport fighting style but i thought u were talking about all fighting styles like sambo , wrestling , but a grapple can be effective because u can use a single underhook and bash the guys head into something and clear the other guy because u would have a free hand and 2 legs so u could use a grappling in a real situation
tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
I am not pin pointing any art, only the use of methods ie graple. I think your mistaken about being attacked thinking you can graple one and still be ready for the next guy! Unless the attackers are not attacking ? But simply being the foe
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
alright if ur not telling me to grapple then when i strike the guy where should i hit him because i don't want to kill him
tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
ok but what if they clinch you first and tie you up?
gwot09 2 years ago
Then your training has already failed you as if they are close enough to attack you should have hit them already
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
Fight after fight shows that it is very difficult to realistically expect to avoid the clinch. Most fights start in very close range. Few people square off outside punching range for a sucker punch or grab. Often you do not know there will be a fight until the first blow is launched.
hkdharmon 2 years ago
Grabs are no Problem. Strikes are no Problem. NO COMMON SENSE is a major problem. FIRST to inflict damage WINS...
SensieMax 2 years ago
Nice simple comment , cheers
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
There is no time to think before reacting to an attack. Real fight situation is more of a feel. It is more of a muscle memory response. You will FIGHT the WAY you TRAIN. Problems with some system is that they adapt to much aesthetic moves for COMBAT. Martial Arts training concepts are basically divided into three categories which are CLASSICS (Forms), SPORTS (Controlled/limitations), COMBAT (Survival). In the streets nobody scores you points or will disqualify you for a foul.
SensieMax 2 years ago
Use a combination technique instead. Striking someone who is prepared will likely counter you easy. First guy to initiate an attack either with a strike or a grab is open for a good counter technique. First guy who can inflict a damaging technique wins. Does not matter if its a strike, lock, choke, kick or bite...COMMON SENSE is a good weapon...:-)
SensieMax 2 years ago
Because all martial arts are much more profound than just "this one kicks, this one grabs, etc", I believe everyone should consider practice/study several martial arts, not just to be able to judge what works or what doesn't in a certain case, but also to at least become more complete fighting-wise than when you knew only 1 art and to be able to overcome a wider range of any given situations.
Its good to defend what you believe, but as long as you keep an opened mind.
jugo85 2 years ago
I agree with some things that Mark has said about a real situation, but not entirely. I love martial arts, personally I have trained 7 arts and I have no specific preference. The reason is simple, different problems-different solutions, and as every martial artist (master or not) knows there is no such thing as the perfect and/or complete martial art.
In the end knowing only one art is NOT going to be enough to cover every angle. And TDK is just not enough to even cover its own "area".
jugo85 2 years ago
In a perfect fight this guy is absolutely right. However, we've had over a decade of very public nearly real fighting to show us that people don't always lie down after the first strike, and that grabbing often occurs whether you think you won't be grabbed or not.
What do you do when your strike fails to do the job and it gets messy? A spinning kick? You've got to know how to handle each phase of a fight. Tae kwon do handles striking. Not enough.
HarryBallbag 2 years ago
I was liking what you said untill the spinning kick comment!! TKD is not what your seeing, all your seeing is silly sport shite. TKD has 65% hand techs the kicks have ben made sensational crap effective for nothing but exhibition
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
i thought 25 percent hand motion and 75 percent kicking
tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
The TKD of the past 20yrs has been financialy focused so the martial was taken from the system making it simply a fun silly way to make people think they learn to fihght or defend whilst the big cheeses get rich.. TKD is an amazing fight system that has no ambassador anymore..IE TKD f###ed itself for money
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
ya but you do make a good point about people not doing one strike one finish I mean why try to wrestle him to the ground when you can strike him
but what if the guy is betting the life out of u and u can't strike back somehow the only thing u can do is grapple should u do it i mean u can grapple throw and not hit the ground with him so that is one less guy u will have to deal with
tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
yeah i compltly agree... but the why not both put them into a submition then strkie... but im in london ont. and im looking for some kind of jujitzu... any 1 know of a place
josh2773 2 years ago
aghhh aghhh fuk u aghh aghhh.. nice But seriously these are great things to speak about on youtube. I can safely say the only time id use jujitsu is if in fact im grabbed from the back and tried to be choked or if i was too close and i got grabbed id try to create a trap and trip situation if possible. Other then that i cant say using grappling is the safest method especially being that treanton is righ down the street lol
hakuboshi1 2 years ago
well what meant by what i said was when you strike the first guy out then the second guy grabs you wouldn't you have to throw the other guy to the ground then strike him and knock him out
tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
You dont have to go to ground to break free do you and so you dont need to go to ground to strike, Any ways causing your attacker to be on the ground is your goal but just dont follow him is all im saying
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
why not use a jujitsu standing grapple throw him to the ground
tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
ok now i understand
tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
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tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
Ok I like your thinking hahah but why not strike out the first guy and then strike out the second?? why bother grappeling at all?
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
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tapoutcampion111 2 years ago
good, finally some one has understood.
its nice to see even one person who hasnt been brainwashed by the whole gracie/brazilian jujitsu/mma bullshit being 'the best'
maybe there is still a chance for people....maybe
TENNSUMITSUMA 2 years ago
If they jump in your fight get your buds to jump in to, duh ?
niccripps22 2 years ago
Well, TBH... its a little sad seeing someone who is an instructor doing the 'the best technique is this one' routine...
All martial arts systems have something to offer (even if it's only getting a good breakfall developed), it's just a matter of applying what you know and testing it within various scenarios to see if it works and making adjustments to the method used until it does work ... in short... always have a plan B... or a very VERY effective plan A...much of jujitsu is like this..
scopeophile 2 years ago
Hey thanks for your input, To say i was saying the best tech is this and that is missing my point i feel. Every situation will be different and you should do what you feel is best. I myself feel to go to ground is much more dangerous than to evade and counter strike. Never have any plan be it a-b-c or whatever as conflict require instant improvising
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
true, I concur that deliberately going to the ground is dumb. However, with the best will in the world... no strike is 100% effective every time (ditto for locks/hold.throws BTW )... and gravity can be your enemy as much as it can be your ally during a throw if your footing is wrong... groundwork is simply another wrench in the toolbox, I don't advocate it, but I accept the need to have the skill there... even if (especially in many ways) it's a 'get up and go' basic escape from holds
scopeophile 2 years ago
I think that you should never bring a fight to the ground, there is no point. But, you should know as much ground fighting as you can in case you're opponent takes the fight to the ground.
Mazer2721 2 years ago
I agree to an extent. I train in DanzanRyu Jujitsu and MCMAP it's not all about going to the ground, you must have situational awareness. Knowing your art and knowing when to use what is the key. Not all situations are the same. Stay standing stay alive by any means necessary. Not all martial arts (including striking arts) teach things that are street worthy. Be aware of what is being taught and learn the techniques "proper" application. Thanks for the vid...
semperfite 2 years ago
Thank you for your input
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
Agreed to a certain extent. You need to train or at least be familar with all aspects of fighting. If you can knock a guy out right away, great, that should be your number one priority... if it is available. That's not always the case though. No one should restrict themselves to a "style" or "way" because every style has something to offer. For example, you use a bar scene situation... lets say you're walking home alone in a park a single person jumps you who is much bigger and stronger then
jmc2424 2 years ago
You should always be aware of your surroundings so being jumped cant happen!If your crossing a park you should walk as central as possible giving you maximum chance of evasion or flight if need be. Bigger and stronger isnt a factor to a skilled person as much as to a non skilled one
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
i agree somewhat.. but if its just one person... then grabs are okay.. but if its two... i think you should learn more about fighting two people than just one.. but if you get one down grabs are okay like.. grabbing then going into sweep.. because they are designed to be done fast... not slow enough for the other guy to get back up and start beating u up..just think about it..
wannabe922 2 years ago
Without seeming rude! Dont you think i have thought about it??? If you think with 2 attackers you can grab floor and imobolize then be ready for the next guy im sorry but where do you live? I have been training 30 yrs and have come across most situations in my time as security personel and as ive said before sport fighting and street attacks are very different! Please anilize your theory and get back to me
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
no i mean like throwing them down first so you have a few seconds to hit the other guy.. yes i take bjj krav maga and judo and with a mix you can pull it off... i live in texas btw
wannabe922 2 years ago
Even though I'm a jujutsu practisioner myself, I can't argue with you. What you are saying makes sense! I believe that the
grab defenses of jujutsu come from ancient times where a grab was a real life attack. That's not so much the case these days. Daito-ryu aikijujutsu is my favorite martial art,but the majority of its techniques are from being grabbed.
kingjutsu1 2 years ago
Hey thanks for your comment, I do alitle JJ training with different guys from NZ and Brazil and i think its fantastic and realy enjoy studying it, What i will say is the more i train JJ the more i stand by my comments on grabs grapple and take downs simply because if your not aware of being stabbed or cut why risk it and simply strike when in range. Ring craft and street craft are similar as are the zebra and horse
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
Mark-have you ever seen Sanuces ryu jujitsu? It is a modernized Japaneses style of jujitsu that hold to many of the same principles of the "multi opponent" situations you speak of in this video. You are right on in what you are saying and this style (sanuces) addresses just what you are talking about...it's great stuff you should look it up!
fisherman123100 2 years ago
I will do thanks for your time to post comment.
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
generaly agree, though the same Ju-jitsu teaches striking (atemi). Moreover, in a close environment like a crowded disco you may want to be able to counter a typical bully push (equilibrium), deflect a strike etc. And of course free yourself from a grab, especially for ladies. I personally hit and run only if forced by situation, for legal issues.
opsabarsec 2 years ago
i agree one 100% with the strike first statement throws and grappling in selfdefence should happen if you get grabbed myself i find judo and karate a good combination
wheelerdealer66 2 years ago
having worked clubs, private security and then military I learned this way is the best. You must remain mobile and control the area not just the player. I used to tell my guys in the Army to control the show not just the actors. If you are in one spot more then 2 seconds you are a puching bag.
mrrodneyalong 2 years ago
so true
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
as a 25 year JKD concepts person (notice the word expert isn't in there) you can't think that a fight is never going to the ground ? Jujitsu may not be all there is to fighting but I'm still glad I've got ground skill AND a stand up game not just one or the other! .........just a thought.
dlw897 2 years ago
Mark, I completely mirror your sentiments. It's true that grappling isn't always the best way to handle a situation, though the more closed-minded grappling practitioners out there would regard such talk as complete heresy. It's effective, but not in all circumstances.
I also agree that quite a number of modern day martial artists trip themselves up by focusing too much on the sport aspect, rather than the original purpose of efficiently neutralizing the opponent.
pennsyr1 2 years ago
you make excellent points though I guess you might be talking about bjj rather than tjj about the groundwork and grabbing
term02 2 years ago
Mark --- Your point is well taken. But from my perspective, jujitsu is a Japanese combat / self-defense art, not a sport art devoid of striking. Jujitsu open-hand techniques are metaphors for weapon strikes, and samurai protocol was deadliest longer-range weapon first (swords and open hands were later/last resort weapons): so as a traditional jujutsuka, I agree that striking should be first and be devastating! We grab from strikes to drive the attacker into the ground: the hardest strike of all!
Jujitsu4u 2 years ago
yes but the ground is for the other guy not you. just incase there is more than one. in southern California only dead people go down. you better be ready for the next move.
swingtokill 2 years ago
Hahaha cool i like that saying!! only the dead go down
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
Very nice :)
jazzigg 2 years ago
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE!
pottsy40 2 years ago
Additionally, multiple opponents are not going to stand in line to be hit. They will come at you all at once, if they are half smart and have intent to harm. No style of fighting is completely effective against multiple opponents. What you see in the movies (guy getting punched, then used as a shield to block the other guys) is cliche and misleading. Having spent my share of days in a bar, I can tell you most fights are one on one and 90% of them end up on the ground.
pelorecruiter 2 years ago
that 90% isnt true. how can you work out that statistic? do you stand and watch every one on one fight in the world and works out these stats? no cos its a lie. ive been to many self defence seminars and they all say the same thing as mark. ground fighting is suicide in the streets, grappling is asking to be knifed. my fatther was a bouncer and he told me exactly the same ground fighting will get you killed.
tyebo87 2 years ago
learn paralax evasion. with multiple opponents this simple idea can save you from fighting more than one person at once. its extremely effective. you just have to be fit lol.
staunchmike 2 years ago
With all due respect to Mark Miller, he is referring to sport style BJJ, not the original fighting style BJJ practiced by Helio and his brothers. The original fighting BJJ concentrated on Vale Tudo (anything goes style of fighting) which included kicks and strikes. More specifically, it utilized Japanese Jiu Jitsu (judo) for close combat throws. A punch to the stomach might hurt, but a throw to the ground breaking your hip or giving you a concussion is a much more dramatic way to end a fight.
pelorecruiter 2 years ago 2
Hey mark just curious, are you an instructor at your training hall and where is it? The web site on the info part doesnt work. BTW totally agree with everything you say, you remind me so much of my cheif instructor.
tbomgwtf 2 years ago
wait... wait...
this video is implying that grabbling is the only option.
what if you strike and it doesn't work the first time. Then the attacker clinches your shirt as a self defense reaction, at that point the fight has evolved into a grabbling fight, whether you like or not. Then your grabbling skills are required.
it's true that if the attack has a buddy next to him, then you are finished. Yet, grabbling is still needed b/c fighters that know grabbling will have a higher chance to escape.
lln003 2 years ago
I agree that grappling arts are not good for the streets, because most guys that are causing trouble come with friends... But an art like Hapkido immobalizes quickly and continues with awareness of their whereabouts. What do you think?
deguimeraUSA 2 years ago
I love to graple and do see the benefits of knowing how but from the experience of life ive had i agree with you and this is why i say its better to learn to strike for street not sport
ahumanweaponvideo 2 years ago
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wussupdooder 2 years ago
comes from the sword, you cant have 2 hits with that its one hit one kill death no half measures cause if u do u will die and ju jutsu should never ever be about wrestling thats wot wrestling is, ju jutsu you yield, punch the crap out of him etc until hes nearly dead anyway, then throw him to kill him nothing more,
jukowadowarrior 2 years ago
It's easy to understand why mark came to this conclusion, it is the ultimate aim of the percussive arts just to hit you and bugger off effectively however, brazilian ju jutsu is a sport, so i will ignore that however real jutsu actually works on exactly the same principal as the percussive arts because the point is to destroy your oppenent, its not about hiting him then walking off, its a battlefield art, its about destroying him in every sense of the word, then pissing on him ju jutsu
jukowadowarrior 2 years ago 2
Completely agree with what you are saying
misfit1978 2 years ago
Good video , I think you can be a good figher with jiu jitsu and muay thai
rodviz87 2 years ago
the point is that most fights dont end with one punch. clearly it is optimal to ko someone immediately, and is so obvious that it needn't be mentioned. if we are assuming there is going to be more than one opponent, your chances of being tied up increase anyway, especially in the confines of a club. jujitsu (Brazilian) philosophy is concerned primarily with positional domination, getting to a position where you can finish or flee; with that in mind, why are we in the club in the first place??
yamaha893 2 years ago
no one fighting system is complete, a good fighter will be proficient in more than one art .jujitsu is a perfect to learn close combat.
real world how many times you gonna take someone out with one strike and what do you do when he closes the gap or even worse takes you down??
jaggafeen 2 years ago
I do Jujitsu and this guy has a point, kind of. I do Kempo Jujitsu which is a traditional style, we work on grabs and locks yes but the biggest thing we work on is practical self defence. Also i started doing Krav Maga about a year and a half ago and that style teaches '' A natural and instinctive response to violence'' and it works very well. In a club or a CQC situation jujitsu can be used only as a tool when needed but it is important to finish a ''situation'' as fast as possible.
beaufort316 2 years ago 3
good point but misdirected: Mark describes the usual Brazilian Jujutsu martial arts, but not all Jujutsu styles endorse going to the ground. Some Jujutsu styles advocate exactly what Mark was describing: one strike, don't go to the ground, fight multiple attackers while standing. All points were good, but misdirected against Jujutsu in general.
cleanpull 3 years ago 5
mark is absolutely correct... i am a bouncer that has a black belt in ju-jitsu, i also box and do krav maga....... You get get in an altercation in a pub you are fighting THAT guy and anyone else who wants a poke at you..... STICK AND MOVE.grapple only as last resort to remove threat.. good lookin out mark
2FISTS4YERFACE 3 years ago 2
Can you garuntee that you can knock anyone out with the first strike, no matter how big or strong? i doubt it. I study jikishin ju jitsu and we train in all aspects of figting. No one fighting system is the best thats why ufc guys crosstrain, what are you going to do if someone takes you down, if you havent trained for it, what if someone is a better stand up fighter than you are ?. Are you telling me that you can beat any number of assailants, they dont queue up like in the movies.
24908915 3 years ago
I can garauntee that no moatter how big small fast slow or any style if i put my thumb in thier eye they cant see!! The more the people the more they get in each others way. I know how people attack a single person when they are multiples and TKD but not 99% of the tkd youve seen is the best to deal with it.I study JJ simply to know how to defend best against it or other grapling systems.
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago
yeah, if you do put your thumb in someones eye then yeah the wont be able to see. The problem with techniques like that nowadays though is liability issues.
blindminister 3 years ago
True! But i have and will always risk prosecution over injury. Thanks for youe input.
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago
better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6 :D
kempobrad 3 years ago
very good point, well explained :)
mikeynewman 3 years ago
Ju Jitsu and BJJ are aimed for the purpose of controlling your opponent and using leverage rather than brute strength to outfight and counter your opponent similar to that of wrestling and judo. The main problem with these martial arts is that they are mostly intended to be used in a 1v1 situation and not when fighting against groups. You want to learn how to strike quick and powerfully do TKD JKD or Muay Thai - then you will be most ready for the street fighting atmosphere.
adavidesilva 3 years ago
The only thing I might disagree with is that you can strike someone while at the same time having control of them, and having control of one guy can be useful versus multiple.
Also purely striking is not as much of a sure thing, in my opinion, cuz you can miss and/or it could be blocked. Whereas a lock can be used to steer a person so their that there buddy hits them instead of you with the beer bottle hehe. Also a lock can cause breakage/dislocation which obviously finishes.
H4I2I2EE 3 years ago
I hold a black belt in tkd and have competed for 15 years in kickoxing, and have been in well over 2 dozens street fights, with sometimes multiple attackers. Problem with theory is you wont knock the person out one shot 90% of the time and you will be grabbed. However do support if space invaded, strike first, grapple later.
tcollrin 3 years ago
very pratical and consistent view.... and i agreed with it =). although i do not practice taekwando.
jdanccastro 3 years ago
I absolutely agree with what is being said in this video. i for one have trained in wing chun and love how quick and effective it is by using multiple stikes rapidly to take out an opponent. the only problem i have with this video, is that the criticism of grabbing ishould not be blamed on ju jutsu, but of BJJ - which is an art that focuses solely on one part of ju jitsu - grappling and ground work. traditional jujitsu uses alot more strikes/kicks/locks/arm breaks/throw downs etc.
R32GTRacing 3 years ago
"The points are irrelevant..."
Well said! I only wish there were more TKD schools around today that shared this view Mr. Miller.
Mr1dan 3 years ago
Well, to answer in part the question "Why would you grab somebody when you can strike them?"
-Grabbing someone offers levels of response. Striking is...striking...with all the legal implications that carries. You can escalate a grab...you can't de-escalate a strike
-Grabbing offers you the opportunity to use one person as a shield against another.
jij78666 3 years ago
i don't think about any leagel action during a street fight i just wanna stay alive but i agree that grappling has very effective uses in selfdefense this guy is also currect people only think about martial arts as it relates to mma they need to break that kind of thinking and open their minds
phillyforever 3 years ago
Using somebody as a shield? That is not easy to do. Especially if the guy has more than one othe person behind them.
rhdez11 3 years ago
you have to learn to do these things with lots of practice and good tuition, also do your best not to get in a situation that you are confronted by a group,many a dead hero!!
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago
I've seen enough footage of grapplers being sparked out or getting in close and negating the attack of a "striker" to believe that one approach is any better than another.
I think, of course, that you cannot give a decisive answer to the question, "what preference/style is best?"
I train in Ju Jitsu because I believe it gives a balanced approach to combat. I would not put myself on the floor on purpose but having said that we do train for that eventuality.
Not all ju jitsu is sport ju jitsu.
tubofile 3 years ago
Is that you I saw fighting the dentist?
tubofile 3 years ago
k. I totaly Would love to agree. Grapling, wrestling and Bjj are all sport fighting, and are not the focuse here right. I beleve the one Techneque finnisher, but i like to use graples, let gravity do the work for me, let the motion of the grpple to take a moment and view your suroundings. I am not however a belever that strikes will always work. A solid knowledge of graples can result in falls that break arms, legs, necks. So there is a verry good reasen to get aquanted with them.
TheFreshAirInspector 3 years ago
Is this referring to ground fighting jujitsu? i.e Brazilian Jujitsu? Cuz at our club we are not encouraged to go to the ground, and its certainly not all throws. I need to take up boxing or something similar.
YellowCo 3 years ago
He makes a point. But he is not knowingly referring to the Judo/ JuJitsu that he and the Vast majority of the public had seen which is post 1880's "peace time" jujitsu. Truth be told Old School Japanese JuJitsu has some of the best multiple attacker defense available. We always strike, rarely do we "grab" instead we lock/ dis-locate all of which is done with one hand to leave the other free to block & strike, His point is valid that you don't just want to "grab".
streeteffective 3 years ago
check out bas ruttens self defense vids, they r pretty cool
LambdaDrS 3 years ago
when do you ever start grappling/wrestling on an opponent who still has full energy?
Of course you would want to deal some damage first, especially if your opponent appears to be taller, stronger or physically more fit than you are. So in a real life situation you would want to try to deal some fast hard damage then go in for "crowd control" before he knows what took him down (if you are obliged to do for example as a security and restricted by laws) or try to get the hell outta there.
EvilGNU 3 years ago
I find that Judo/Jujitsu is useful for balance and close quarters control (of the situation).
You can at least acknowledge the usefulness of something like judo as a supplement to striking.
While I agree with striking as among the better options, it feels a little too simple for the situation you described. Even when striking proper, it's still possible to be out muscled.
BTW, the form of Judo I'm familiar with involves takedowns without taking yourself down as jujitsu fighters seem to enjoy.
JohnnyV83 3 years ago
yes. My background in wrestling has immensely helped me to have better close-quarters striking control. It is also useful to know grappling just in case someone grabs YOU and you need to get away. However, it is always better to strike and remain on your feet (many traditional Jujitsu practitioners would agree I think). This is definitely Jim Harrison's thought too (one of the two men Bruce Lee said he would least like to fight in a dark alley). But grappling is still useful to know.
leavemealone2006 3 years ago
your a funny man haha, lol its not all about grabbing someone in jujitsu, smash through all my opponents with a couple of hits and then when ur left im gonna grab and break ur arm in half and then stick it in your asshole..
scorpionking1200 3 years ago
Ofcourse you will sweetheart xxx
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago
to those talking about steven sagal, no, just because steven does something cool in a movie, doesn't mean he's invincible. that's pretty naive.
i think the jujutsu referred to on the video is more specifically brazilian jujutsu. note that jujutsu was brought to brazil after WW2, and many things were not taught. what I study follows this thought exactly, and we do not want to struggle and be 'caught in a fight'. the objective is pragmatism, simplicity, and ending a confrontation instantly.
hakkoryujujutsu 3 years ago
if u trow a punch to a jujitsu fighter u will get it broken real fast
69lol69 3 years ago
Why is that then?
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago
Dont know but Steaven Seagle does
69lol69 3 years ago
Hahaha briliant mate class answer
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago
Going to the ground in almost any real fight is risky at best suicidal at worse. Grabbing also not recommended, however Jujitsu not BJJ but Jujitsu, employs locks strike,rediretion etc. If you only strike an adversery who has a high tolerance for pain he may be back to start the fight over again in seconds, he and his buddy. I may want to strike and lock him to us as a human shield against his buddy. But not just that,situtuation arise where you need to control a person not just batter them.
Poeticfavor 3 years ago
If you think someone has a tolerance for pain you are hiting them in the wrong place with the wrong tool!! You dont need to hold someone to use tem as a shield if you know how t menover your self.thanks for the comment
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago
Wise words Poeticfavor. I think strikes are very important. Not going to the ground in a street fight is also important however, sometimes we may not have a choice. Perhaps we are the one to be taken off guard and down to the ground. To be a great street fighter you need to develop more than just counting on a single strike to do enough damage to end the fight. Don't forget that person you're hitting also has a brain and eyesight and probably doesn't want to be hit.
aalford111 3 years ago
i agree with u y would u waste the time trying to grab when u can simply strike them.
subfish13 3 years ago
Are people missing whats being said here? Im saying about grabbing weather BJJ or any other art useing the grab technique!! I am not saying JJ is no good it is simply a point made against a tech that seems to be held in high regard that will get you killed in a violent situation.Yes i know that all arts have striking and again comes to the point of if in a gang fight dont go to the ground!!
ahumanweaponvideo 3 years ago