Full Auto PPSh-41 Underground Bunker

[seoptuch]

first PPD. do not confuse

[michaeloflaherty]

It's a Russian Thompson The Commie Gun!! :P

[libertyphoenix777]

I'm going to look into getting one of THESE!!! With Drum Mags!!!

[MysteryoftheGods]

Hey Pacificcoast. I am sure you get this a lot, but where did you get this? I've been looking.

[Halvorson]

@MysteryoftheGods you are probably going to have to look in auctions, like gunbroker, but good luck! America isn't getting any new full autos anymore, so we just have to transfer what is already here.

[killerNC17]

if only we had tanks that shoot artillery that fast

[Halvorson]

@killerNC17 the country would go bankrupt! oh wait.. to late

[MrTORNADOF3]

The stick has much more better handling than the barrel but i still prefer the barrel because its really nice on this gun

[TaZ101SAGA]

@MrTORNADOF3 What?

[JellowLOve]

beast my favorite gun :D

[skullcrusher58]

iam wanting this more than the tommy gun shoots alittle slower but more accurate than the tommy but would love both

[VegaSec]

@skullcrusher58 read coviekiller6's comment above. I would have said it myself but s/he had already. Its more accurate with a higher rate of fire. Good pick of the PPSh41 over the Tommy :)

[Elc22]

nice, drum mag, awesome gun

[poisendcupcake]

its poppa shaw instead of saying p-p-s-h-41

[xMINDFREAKv1]

Dear Santa,

[JustAnotherYtuber]

looks very uncomfortable to hold, you just hold from magazine?

[HARVSTO]

zombie head-chopper right here...

[TaZ101SAGA]

This is monster of a sub-machine gun, but few people know it was actually copied from what most consider to be a better gun...The Suomi KP31.

[sonick808]

@coviekiller6 i dunno, stopping power is a bit of a myth really, at least compared to shot placement; i'd rather have 7.62x25 than .45ACP, I think you would too ;) 7.62x25 tok is just badass

[sonick808]

god i love the ppsh41 and the 7.62x25 tok. outstanding. That range looks a bit smokey though, id' get your blood lead levels checked after shooting those mercuric primers in that smokey room!

[pacificcoast]

@sonick808 for some reason, my doctor says my sperm count is very low. can't figure out why!

[vasilikosolov]

@pacificcoast guess you wank too much

[vryafoat777]

Dear santa

[CDNgirl19]

It looks good in a Germans bloody body.

[TheWorldsLongestName]

Id laugh if he somehow sot the camera

[SitsinShadow]

Very nice, one day perhaps I'll buy a FA unit. Is your's on a Form 4 here in the states?

[Gooner018]

while i think the ppsh is good gun the bullet it fires is fast but very small. 85 grains vs 230 grains for .45

[Dilabores]

@TriggerManxL

Formaly - yes, because of pistol ammo. But its real characteristics isnt normal for smg. Its too heavy and not very compact, due to its firepower, for smg. In days when PPSh was maid there was no assault rifles, and there was a need in weapon for medium and small ranges. PPSh's bullet can kill on 400 m. range. MP40's bullet can barly kill on 200 m.

[judderman37]

Sweet! Just the sort of thing for garbage removal on your front lawn eh? Wish I had one of those, mow down the scum that deal coke and crack around my country... funnily enough thats what my book is about! ...when I get it published that is...

[jakeman121acdc]

man that is a gun

[WhatsaUserName321]

wow like no recoil

[Gooner018]

either way nice gun man.

[gotubeogle]

dosen't holding the magazine while firing tend to cause misfeeds ?

[TaZ101SAGA]

@gotubeogle The magazines fit in very tightly so generally no

[Di0guardi]

total

[leedaomillz]

You can work this gun well

[Homey999000]

wow so much less recoil that other smgs ive seen

[Dilabores]

@Homey999000

Because it has some compensator(its primitive but it works), low impact ammo and its weight with mag is 5 kilo=)

[Asestar]

Holding this weapon properly for accurate firing is very difficult. While it is impressive in its firepower, accuracy suffers greatly.

Comparative German mp40 or similar slow-firing weapons were far more accurate.

[matiasfpm]

the bullet its more small but strong (ppsh-41)

[Dilabores]

@Asestar

MP40 was a true smg in all means, while 5 kilo monster PPSh was designed to full the emptiness between rifels and mg's. PPSh has a high firepower and good range so its quite universal gun, it was used as an assult rifle wich havent been developed in these times. And today this gun looks kinda strange, while MP40 is a good smg even in modern understandings of fire arms.

[MrSpardas]

@Asestar thats why its a closer range weapon , high rates of fire means less marksmanship required and more hate expressed by the second

[rhodezy92]

goooooood gun, how many rounds are in them drum magazines?

[Erogerk]

71 rounds per drum magazine

[rhodezy92]

hoooooooly shit

[Erogerk]

hahaha

[rhodezy92]

thats a fuck load of bullets, all u would have to do is point it in the general direction of the enemy and hold down the trigger and u'll hit something haha

[hisothiro]

70+1

[commiedude13]

yes amazing Soviet weaponry

[scottyfett]

look at the smile on his face at 0:07 that guy knows hes got 30 rounds of kick ass

[elhefe4]

fake

[TheGrottonGolfCo]

Not at all, that is definitely real and probably the best SMG of WWII.

[Rzavqi]

low recoil?

this gun was made in the 1940s!

dumbasses!

But still it's the best SMG of the WW2 ever made!

[maakwatherrie]

Is the gunner so good or has this smg so little recoil?

[Yattutroll]

It's just a hot pistol load. So he's probably not terrible, but it's nothing like 7.62x51.

[ma369rtin]

it has VERY low recoil for a assault rifle its like not even a 16 gauge shotgun

[kidonaharo]

wtf are you talking about its a smg thats sub machine gun if you didnt know that either

[ma369rtin]

its has the kick of a little less than a auto 16 gauge I know its a smg a damn good one 2

[kidonaharo]

@ma369rtin you said assault rifle earlier

[ma369rtin]

@kidonaharo Oh, I'm sorry dude, my bad.

[OhNoezGrenade]

One bad ass SMG!

[CapnKirkus]

It's quite clearly on a tripod/stand of some kind. The first reason being how still it is, and the second being that yes, noone would be that stupid

[kkyy23]

idiot you can just put camera there -.-"

[Taisto]

You should have left the reloading parts in!

[B29Bomber]

after killing 6 million of their own...

but that was stalin.

[pianorocker279]

Ok, ok sorry about the mean Russian thing. I was judging them on how news stations describe them. Who knows, maybe the nicest person in the world could be Russian. Sorry 'bout that.

[kolashnikovak47]

best gun was da ak47 and guess what its russian :P

[SSPanzerPredator]

Hardly.

[Jimmyboy405]

The AK-47 is a russian gun, what do you mean hardly?...

[SSPanzerPredator]

"best gun was da ak47" was what I was responding to. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[DJey29]

U cant say russians germans or other nationalies are not nice. They are nice and not nice people from all nationalities.

[gusplaer]

I'd say russia most likely has the least amount of nice people.

[pianorocker279]

Russians:

Maybe not the nicest people in the world, but they definately make some of the best guns in the world.

[SSPanzerPredator]

Agreed.

[Dilabores]

@pianorocker279

You know, russians think that americans not the nicest people in the world too=) It definitely means that we all fucked up by political bitches=(

[Justinle97]

@pianorocker279 Russians are amazing...

[adrastea99]

@pianorocker279

I think the first part is due to the second part

[gsnake666]

@pianorocker279 not the nicest? compared to who- the americans?

[zabijaq123]

@pianorocker279

Hot chicks & ugly drunk dudes.

[Selemontatti]

@pianorocker279

PPSh is just a bad copy of Finnish people's invention Suomi Konepistooli.

[AirsoftIdeas]

oh yeah!

[foodeater398]

push pop

[1901974]

Ha killed alot of germans thats good

[genmischief]

Germans killed alot of Russians with it as well.

[foughtwolf]

If you want to get technical, ALOT more Russians were killed, even when they were taking land back.

[malleymyster]

i don't know about that ppsh, but i know on the thompson, there are spacers in the drum, so every ten rounds you would have to re-cock your weapon. also, i think magazines are easier to manufacture than drums. and you can carry more bullets in magazines than in the space it takes to carry one drum. i know that was the case with the thompson

[ddtr94]

l  ...

[whoc4r3s117]

the clips are a bitch to load i would rather have a clip. i think they did this to save ammo because it shoots like a mag in 3 secs

[genmischief]

That weapon does not use clips. It is Drum or Stick Magaxine fed...

[ViktorG58]

"tommy gun" used variety of clips holding, 20, 30, or 50 rnd drum. Even a 100 round drum, but its huge.

[ViktorG58]

i mean mags not clips^^

[gevar234]

yeah but the drums were only occaisonally issued, the 20 and 30 round mags are the most common

[Detoyato]

if cheapest is the best then the Sten Gun is king if accuracy the MP40 if stopping power the Thompson and the PPSh 41 for reliability and overall automatic firepower

[00hypnotoad00]

PPsh vs Thompson:

-7.62x25 (ppsh) has better stopping power and penetration capabilities that the .45 acp.

-Way cheaper to produce the ppsh than the Thompson

-Way faster to produce than the Thompson.

-It can be easily modified to fire the 9mm round.

-It has an insane fire rate.

-Higher chance of killing enemies

-It requires very little maintenance.

-It is cooler than the Thompson (matter of opinion)

-It doubles as a squad automatic weapon with it's 71 round drum magazine.

[mini4m3]

Better stoping power? Penetration? The 45ACP is almost twice as large as a 7.62tok. The 7.62tok if loaded hot (czech or bulgarian load) will have better penetration, but the russians didn't load their ammo 'hot' so I'd say the 45 still wins in that category as well.

The thompson and ppsh had the same cyclic rate of fire of around 900rpms, so I dont know how one beats the other.

[mini4m3]

Squad automatic weapon??!! Its a smg, and it will be lucky to maintain stoping power and accuracy past 100m, where a SAW is based upon a battle rifle with a heavier barrel, think along the lines of a BREN gun.

[DTBroad]

PPsh and the Thompson both have their srong points and weak spots. The Thompson is a much sturdier weapon because most of its parts were machined, while the PPsh was of stamped metal construction and the .45 ACP is a much more potent round, hands down. You should be comparing the PPsh with the M-3 Grease gun, they have more in common.

[Alexn1067]

as good as it may be, I still would have to say that the thompson was the best smg of ww2.

[stormvorm]

Depends on what your definition of "best" is. The Thompson was a brilliant weapon weapon but was not the best for the war effort as it was too expensive and labor-intensive to produce. The PPSh-41 was the ultimate choice for arming millions with a crude, reliable and effective weapon. I'd personally rather be armed with a Tommie though :P.

[Alexn1067]

well of course, the thompson was expensive so only armies with a decent budget could afford it. the ppsh on the other hand was very easy and cheap to make which is why it was ideal for the soviets who needed a good weapon and fast. Like you, I think most would rather have a thompson if given that luxary.

[azndragon357]

yes but the thompson has a major drawback...it is not designed for jungle warfare when it cant even pierce a low diameter tree

[Alexn1067]

hold on a second, if the thompson can go through 2 1930 ford model T car doors then I believe it has enough penetration power to compete with any smg. If the thompson couldn't penetrate such an object, then odds are very few other smg's could. not to mention we are talking about pistol ammo not anti-material rounds.

[azndragon357]

well idk when i was researching WWII in wikipedia (Had to for a school history report) i came to a thompson page and it said that...so idk

[Alexn1067]

good smg for the purpose it was designed for. Cheap reliable, suppresive in the right circumstance. Don't get why the ejection port sends the shells streight up as this would interfere with aiming down the sights but then again the ppsh41 wasn't built for accuracy. Enter a room and sprey and prey.

[darko714]

I want it! Do you know where I can get one? It's without a doubt one of my favorite WWII weapons. I know guys who've been to Iraq and Afghanistan and say they are fairly common over there (and available for cheap). The only way I can think of that one got here would be if a WWII vet had "liberated" one from captured or dead Waffen SS. I understand they liked them.

[multipl3]

If you guys wanna play with some Russian toys online, you should try Red Orchestra! Like all games, there may be bits you dont like. But otherwise its the most realistic WW2 Sim on the planet!

[panostsak]

Yeah I play it a lot, its great and so difficult!!

The only thing I dont like is the recoil of the PPSH 41, they exaggerate with it, you end up pointing to the sky if you shoot it in rapid fire which is rather unreal (the guy in this video shoots it and he is so steady).

[multipl3]

Yes thats true, it is a beast to control in-game. I rarely use it, opting for the ppd40. But I recently picked it up again, and found that when firing from the hip, it is super deadly!!

I think its behaviour is a balane issue, as Im sure you can imagine, it could completely dominate and be too 'easy' to use, thus taking away any challenge RO has to offer!

[Wildplaces7676]

I am an Red Orchestra fanatic

[Sodnal]

Does the Russian 7.62 pistol cartridge have much of a kick?

[pacificcoast]

The 7.62x25 Tokarev is comparable to the 9mm. Depending upon bullet weight, balistically they're similar. However, due to the bottleneck case, the 7.62x25 kicks slightly more (higher fps).

[ChristianCommando]

It also penetrates considerably better than the 9mm (even .45ACP).

[Gooner018]

@pacificcoast

Momentum: 9mmP = ~21 ftlbs/s ToK ~ 18ftlbs/s

Recoil and consequently sheer power is determined by Momentum. It is not the same as Kinetic Energy.

[Gooner018]

@pacificcoast

Exactly the WW2 9mm has a momentum value of about 21 lbf/s vs 20lbf/s for the Tok. basically the same.

[menju32]

@pacificcoast no the 7,62x25mm is comparable to the 7,63mm Mauser, or the 7,65mm Luger...but not to the 9mm Luger..

[chuckeieio]

Who's you're DADDY!!!! Yea!!! That is one sweet repeater!

[timberman3]

gut sound :) like pneumatic weapons :) eff dmg range is about 200m (vs 100m MP-40)

[JJR93]

I love historical Soviet small arms...thanks for sharing this.

[panzarw]

hehhe he both it... how else ??

[majorocelot1124]

How did you manage to get a PPSH?

[MacHamish]

Neat'o :-D

[zaphar]

wow, that has an awesome ROF

[pacificcoast]

Yes, there is a selector switch directly in front of the trigger that allows you to toggle between semi-automatic and full-automatic. It fires from the open bolt design in both situations.