TWA 800 tribute video

[tamlarse]

My daughter was on this flight. I appreciate the fact that someone remembers.

[possum440]

First, nice to see idiots still swim around in our gene pool. For the person that wants to see "evidence" of the center tank failing i suggest you see the NTSB result and leave your conspiracy theory to the martians. To the expert on the government i suggest you leave the country and visit some desert, your likely to find your brain there. To the Halon expert, you havent a clue, like the conspiracy theorist, halon wont kill you on contact, given fresh air you will be quite fine.

[AviationguyAlex]

The fuel tanks on board the 747 are self sealing and have Halon dispenser in each one. Halon is a very lethal fire repellent that takes the oxygen out of the air. If just one micro flake gets on a human, the dies instantly.

There is no way that JET A fuel will explode the way the NTSB and FAA said it did. I have a pilot's license and I have worked for the airline. The 747 can be used as a tank if you take the wings off of it.

There is no doubt in my mind this was terrorism.

[sandyhembree]

If was Navy missle that shot it down, they would cover it up.

It was a old plane that waited 2 hours before take off.

Who knows..........maybe a guess is all anyone can do.

[sandyhembree]

by the song you must think it was shot down, who knows you might be right.

[1988harold]

HAHAHA BANG HERE BANG THERE LATER BANG HERSELF

[LongLiveOx]

It's amazing how, whenever some "incident" happens and the US government does an investigation into it, it's never them. It's always someone else, or it's a wacky mishap. It's never, EVER the military's fault.  And even though hundreds of witnesses will insist that they saw one thing, the government and their "experts" will inform them that they mis-saw.

[MrTrainwreck09]

what the heck, bang bang.............bang whats the matter with this lady, and whats up with the lag in this video?

[plojka1]

How morbid the song.

[CRM09ify]

Really bad quality

[EZR09]

Sixteen students from the Montoursville High School's French Club and their five advisers also died in this horrible incident.

[jsb3287]

i think the song choice is inappriopriate. "i shot you down bang bang". its quite insensitive. but i agree that this plane was definately shot down by a surface to air missile and then covered up by the american government! the people that are responsible for this coverup will burn in hell for their crimes!!!!

[GiovaniB52]

Ok one last time ... looking at the problem from another angle..would you agree that if this plane had a wireing problem from the manufacture (Boeing) and therefore caused this mishap..then shouldn't every Boeing 747 of this year make and model be blowing up out of the sky left and right ?? does that make any more sense?? I mean these planes were all built in the same manner according to engineering planes ,do you agree with that so far ?? Then why hasn't there been another mishap ------con

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

"if this plane had a wiring problem . . . every model. . . blowing up out of the sky."

I see where you are coming from, but no, that's not by any means a given, IM layman O, some events are by nature very rare. Look at 737 rudder crashes (UA 1991 and US 1994) They were separated by over three years, during which millions of 737 flights did not crash. The # was far greater than 747s in the same period. Also, older 747s were by 1996 becoming rare, so less chance of a repeat.

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 Well being that there is a defaulty wire in the fuel tank ( assuming that your theory is true ) i think the odds or another mishap recurrence should of had easly happend again ,being that the problem is in a very sensitive area "The fuel tanks." were not talking about a light bulb above the passenger seats .But you seem to treat it as a one time isolated incident and i dont think so at all .If what your saying is true the odds of another mishap this kind are high,and it hasn't

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

"should have happened again"

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It has. TWA F800 was one of three such fatal incidents since 1990. All involved Boeing aircaft where the AC packs are over the CWT.

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Again, Iook at United F585, the first time a 737 crashed due to a rare rudder system flaw. By this time (1991) the 737 had been in service for 25 years, with more flights under its belt than the 747.

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Air crashes are increasingly rare events, so almost by definition the causes are becoming more "freakish."

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

Correction: TWA 800 was one of three CWT explosions since 1990, two of which were fatal The others were 737s belonging to Philippine Air (1990) and Thai (post F800, forget exact date.)

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

More on "freakish" accidents. Witness:

1 TWA 800

2 USair 427 & United 585

3 Air France Airbus (last year)

4 American F587/rudder

When you think how few crashes have happened in recent years, it's increasingly the case that "remote possibility" accidents make up a higher % of the total. When you consider there are some 30 million flights worldwide per year, there's more opportunity for "one in 100 million" chance accidents to happen compared to say the 1960s and 70s.

[dutchy1176]

@cchris874 I wouldn't say they were becoming rare in '96....there are even a few of these classics still active today.Even ex-TWAs,with the Iranian Air Force,as old as line number 8!I used to believe the tank explosion,but after thinking the zoom-climb theory through I'm more of a believer in a shoot-down.

[cchris874]

@dutchy1176

The zoom climb is indeed odd, and I also reject it. The final report also dispenses with it. But it's a little hazardous to conclude missile. Flash back 1996: Internet is taking off; TW800 is first big internet CT theory; credible witnesses saw something rising, yet NTSB knows there was no missile (let's say.) This posed a credibility problem. Thus the invention of the Zoom Climb as a way to put a lid on all the CT mongering. It worked.

[cchris874]

@dutchy1176

cont'd

This scenario is a little less extravagent and a little more Occam's Razorish sounding to me. So I would conclude that the Zoom Climb doesn't settle the matter decisively as you might think. I've thought long and hard about all aspects of F800. The turning point for me were the witnesses themselves. They describe a streak of light that by all accounts was LATE in the accident sequence, AFTER F800 had fallen to below 8,000 ft. How does a missile fit into this timetable?

[dutchy1176]

@cchris874 ....thanks for the response....I also forgot to mention that a while after it happened,I found it hard to believe that the tank blew up,but like most other people,I bought it eventually....

[cchris874]

@dutchy1176

Thamk you. It always pays to look at the details, especially the ones missile theorists don't see. One who did look is Jack Cashill. And as a result even he realized the incongruity of the streak of light preceding the entire break up. But the dedicated CTist he is, that forced him to come up with the most absurd conclusion yet advanced: terrorists about to destroy F800 from the air, Navy happens to be watching, then fires missile, missing target !!!

Where will this end?

[cchris874]

@dutchy1176

correction: incongruity should read "inconsistency"

[kaiyno]

@GiovaniB52 It was a 25 year old plane, it wasn't a manufacture malfunction.

[GiovaniB52]

I 'll never believe that a defaulty wire took that plane down in that manner . What a stupid excuse these goverment officials come up with ......I used to live in long island NY ,theres a military base down in montauk and i'll bet anything that during a military exsercise some weapon was deployed ,and because these weapons have computer guiding systems it accidently locked on to this TWA passenger jet ,and it went straight for the jugler

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

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Maybe you could come up with a more consistent theory, then. I can't get the missile scenario to work very well, and I've followed this crash for all 14 years. The main problem is that the witnesses describe a streak of light that doesn't match the known break-up sequence. They say explosion immediately followed streak. But that is most definitely not what happened. The main explosion took place some 30 seconds after the intial event.

Ponder.

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 I got nothing to ponder pal ,maybe you do since your still thinking about what happend to this plane 14 years later ...Airline experts and technicians have admited that there is nothing on board a (747-200) or (747-400) that could sever the front end from the rest of the plane in the way it did . Only an inside job (terrorist attack ) "but that was ruled out," or an outside impact (missle) was not ruled out . Remember fire needs oxygen to ignite ,you can lite a match in the in them

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

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"Airline experts and technicians have admitted. . . nothing that could sever the front end."

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That is rubbish. Could you name even ONE airline "expert" who thinks this?

"Fire needs oxygen" OMG, this is getting worse by the second. Have you ever heard the proposal for inerting systems in commercial aircraft? Why would they be needed if there was no oxygen in these tanks to begin with???????????????

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 I know everything about about Inerting systems ..you jerk off.. THANK YOU FOR HELPING MY POINT it meens rendering a sealed or closed CONTAINER OR TANK ,NON -COMBUSTIBLE, and how do they do that ??? Albert einstein cchris87 whatever your name is .... ARE YOU READY FOR THE BIG ANSWER NUM NUTS ??....THEY TAKE AWAY OXYGEN IN THE AIR SPACE OF THE TANK THAT CAUSES FIRE ! !BY REPLACING IT WITH CARBON DIOXIDE ..WItch IS NOT FLAMMABLE...there for no spark could of had blowen the plane up

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

Am I missing something? The inerting systems being proposed were not in use in 1996, nor are they today. So what are you talking about?

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

Now here's something to consider:

"Fuel tanks for combat aircraft have long been inerted, as well as self-sealing, but those for transports, both military and civil, have not, due to considerations of cost and weight." -wikipedia

Everyone knows this but you, apparently. It seems you not only don't ponder. You don't read.

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874... Are you trying to change the laws of physics???

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

What laws of physics? What you seem to be saying is not just that there was a cover-up - which is always possible, but something even more utterly absurd: that the NTSB senior investigators are complete idiots who wouldn't know whether one needs oxygen or water to ignite a fire. I suppose you also think they don't know how to change a light bulb. Are you really that gullible? No sensible person thinks such things.

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 BINGO !! STEP RIGHT AND CLAIM YOUR PRIZE ,you got it right on Sherlock Holmes ...yes i believe it was a cover up, a conspiracy theory

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

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Oh, I get it now. You are a troll. But even by those standards you are pretty average. Either way, that explains why you reside here rather than at the NTSB or any other place where expertness or rationality is called for.

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Cheers

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 I never said i was a NTSB expert . My comments from the very beginning, have been my strong personal opinions .But from reading the many other comments posted by other people ,i noticed that they agree with my point of view ,and im also in the transport business with hazmat endorsments to carry. What credentials and certifications do you have that support your opinions ?? ..oh im sorry your trying to impose that they are facts

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

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OK, assuming you're not a troll, which seems very doubtful at this point, let's try this again. Do you agree that commercial aircraft today (with the possible exception of the very newest planes, like the 787) DO NOT have fuel tank inerting systems?

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If you can't answer yes or no like an adult, that tells me this will be my final post with you.

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Cheers,

Chris

[cchris874]

@Giovan

BTW, my only credentials are being a human who uses his brain, who has followed plane crahses for decades, and has talked a good deal with a man who worked the F800 investigation. The only other "fact" I mentioned was about the nose coming off. Now ask yourself, why would I need a credential when every single senior NTSB investigator - who's credentials are far more extensive than yours or mine - agrees with me? I can name them one by one. Can you NAME any expert who agrees with you?

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 Your trying to tell me that NTSB officials and officers spoke and consulted with you about this accident??? A person who has no affiliation with the NTSB agency, NO certifications No credentials in this field what so ever ...and they spoke to you??.. and your calling me a troll ?? Do you evan have a job?? I cant believe your last message post , what a joke ! LIKE I SAID BEFORE i am not challenging NTSB findings nor their statements on this accident, these are my opinions only

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

"i am not challenging NTSB findings"

Oh com on, of course you are. Giovani: "Airline experts and technitians have admitted that there is nothing aboard a (747-200). . .that could sever the front end." So, either you are challenging NTSB experts in their final report, which said this is EXACTLY what happened. Or you are not challenging them, in which case you agree with them that the CWT explosion ripped off the front of the plane.

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[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

Now, maybe the NTSB experts got it wrong. If that is the case, what is your source of experts and technicians who agree with you? Can you name at least one? That's a fair question. I've cited by name an official accident report. You have cited no one.

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

"Your tring to tell me that NTSB officials and officers spoke and consulted with you . . . "

- I had a several years long on-going debate with him on another forum (now defunct) when I used to be more congenial to a missile (unlike you, I have an open mind.) And not just me, but dozens of regular forum members. And he then invited some of us to go to a presentation in Virginia where we got to see the flight 800 wreckage and ask questions. It was pretty cool, though sobering.

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 You know ,you dont have to reply if you dont want, thats ok and you can call me any name you want i dont care either .. you seem like an intelligent person and you are informed but you challenge my opinions with your comments imposing that they are the actual facts, and i dont believe that they are . Its been 14 years now since F800 and its still a big question mark on what to that plane ,we the public might not ever know what really happend to fl800 ..nice talking to ya

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

Wrong. The only "fact" I stated was lack of inertign systems on commercial planes. That's a fact, period. Lot's of other things are debatable, But you aren't here to debate, so it's a moot point. Calling you names? Well, you started all that "jerk off" and so forth. Look in the mirror. I started civilly, you didn't.

OK, let's all play nice. Sorry to be nasty. But I think this conversation is still pointless, so let's end on a nice note.

Good Bye

Chris

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 I thought this whole time i was communicating to a person that was affiliated in the transport business or TSA or anything and your not ,so your opinions and who you spoke to dont count for" diarrhea in a jar " and all the elephants that run around in africa . I believe the bottom line of your story is to blame Boeing manufacture for blowing a fuse on F800 and therefore it took down the whole plane

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

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Well that's your fault, since I never ever stated I was in the transport industry. You can't go around making stuff about people, then go "jeez, I was wrong in all the stuff I imagined about you."

So far, you have made only too claims in all this prolonged and uncivil discussion:

1) you need oxygen for a fire, therefore 800 couldn't have exploded - proven conclusively wrong by EVERYONE who reads.

2) experts admit this couldn't happen - where you have given ZERO evidence.

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 I take that back ..your IQ is questionable

[cchris874]

@Giovani

So if that's all you have to say, I'm finished. You have shown again that pro-missilites rarely live up to the demands of reality. They have their opinions, but not a command of the facts, such as your saying there wasn't enough oxygen in F800's CWT. Translation: your opinions suck big time. You are only spreading ignorance, which helps no one.

Now please, you have the final word. Enjoy talking to yourself and throwing around more insults, which seems your strong point.

Cheers

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 My final conclusion of you is that you should not dare write any comments on you tube about this matter when you have NO QUALIFICATIONS IN SAFETY... NONE!! your just another joe shmoe typing away on a key board . I have some qualifications in safety and transportation and i still only express opinoins .You instead went on a tour guide somewhere in a Hangar and asked questions about the plane ,and suddenly you are an expert in airline safety ...go fill out a job application buddy

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

"I have some qualification in safety."

Then why didn't you know that F800 did not have an inerting system? Why can't you reference a single source to back up anything you've said? All you do is argue ad hominem. This is a time honored tradition. Direct your claims against the person, not the quality of the argument. or the veracity of the facts.

Go ahead, keep the focus on ME if you want. It says to the reader you have no actual arguments.

Go for it.

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

BTW, what exactly makes you more knowleable or qualified about air safety? I get the feeling you know far less about it than I do. You said you have experience with Hazmat. And that proves you know more about the causes of air crashes? So far you haven't demonstrated it. All you've demonstrated here is ignorance about inerting systems on commercial aircraft. You say you know all about them, but don't even know they aren't in use on commercial planes. That's ignorance, period.

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

Now if you were really interested in having a fair exchange and a civil discussion, we could have one. The only thing stoppig it is you. You don't answer my questions, don't respond to my arguments and observations. Why is it more important to you to damn and dismiss opinions you don't share rather than discuss them in a nice, respectful way?

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The choice is yours. It's in your court. But instead of a dicussion, I bet you'll just hurl some more ad hominems. Right?

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 -----(-continue)........of this kind happend again ?? Boeing 747's should be blowing up out of the sky everywhere do you agree ?? I tend to believe that it was more then just simple little wire that took down the plane .Example :

Do you remember toyota car maker (just not to long ago ) had a major recall on all there toyota's of a specific make and model because there was a technical problem with the entire fleet of cars they built ? shoud'n't have boeing done the same ??

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

So no I don't agree, any more than 737s should have dropped out of the sky like flies between 1991 and 1994. It depends on the level of risk to begin with. Take the missile theory itself: if it were a missile, by this logic planes should have started being shot down all over the world (just my lay opinion.)

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I agree it seems counter intuitive that a 747 should just blow up when it's never happened before. On the other hand, it's not quite as unique as some might think.

[cchris874]

@GiovaniB52

con'td . . . by which I mean, there have been other fuel/air vapor explosions which were not caused by a violent external shock, such as a crash impact. Usually these have happened when the aircraft was being fueled. But there is at least one case on record where the plane was parked overnight and suffered a spontaneous fuel/vapor explosion. I believe it was an Air Canada plane, but I don't remember right now. I am happy to look this up, if I still have the link.

[GiovaniB52]

@cchris874 fuel tanks ,the flame will go out .There's no oxygen in them tanks there just jet fuel and its own vapor .

[nysocal10]

I lost my cousin in this. Thanks a lot.

[SCAREBUS100]

Most of the people would have still been alive i would rather die straight away still be alive RIP all the passengers of TWA 800

[barmtrail]

If the aircraft had enough fuel to make it to france, Tanks being partly empty. It is safe to say that many 747's fly this way everyday, right? Were all 747's wiring checked? I am by NO means a conspiracy guy, But i do know that if TWA 800 was shot down from a ground to surface missle, fired by some foriegn terroist, there is NO way we will ever know about it. Regardless of how many books are written on this subject or any other terrible event. The truth can be found from within.

[barmtrail]

The U.S. Navy did not shoot down this aircraft. If it was shot down by a missle, it was shot down by a shoulder placed missle from some knucklehead about to go see 70 virgins.

[barmtrail]

Why was the middle tank empty? Is that standard procedure for a flight to france?

How the hell does a navy surface ship shoot down a commercial airliner that close to J.F.K? The navy holds live missle drill's that close to a major commercial airport? What would be the purpose for that? They have an entire ocean to hold drills!!!

[Jobafan08]

i think its because the 747 had enough range to make it to france without it filled and it was the middle tank unfilled to keep the jet more balanced and unfortunatly, it backfired big time =(

[happybox333]

i live in the town where it crashed

[cc6482]

GTA Stuntman, I think If I were u, I'd not admit to being part of the FAA, because that just undermines one's faith, having watched "TWA 800 and The Subversion of Justice", and after reading "The Downing of TWA 800" by James Sanders. This is because these media clearly explain how FAA were leaned on by CIA to ignore the mass of overwhelming evidence confirming a missile DID hit TWA 800. And to anyone who says "there was no missile residue", there WAS! You need to read the aforesaid book.

[GTAstuntman101]

and i support the NTSB result, because my friend is an NTSB investigator, and i'm an FAA investigator

[GTAstuntman101]

nope, Air Crash Investigations saw NO evidence of any missle, just saw faulty wiringoutside the tank and short-circuit inside the tank. and those who claim that a missle shot the plane down IS DEFINITELY WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm saying it because i'm the one that studied the remains of the plane, and i saw absolutely NO evidence of explosive missiles. and that seals the case.

[GTAstuntman101]

but i wonder how that flight flew continually up without any pilot guidance, and i conclude the pilot activated auto-pilot right after he heard the explosion.

[noahzuniga]

If the plane had been hit by a missle, there would have been much more extensive damage. Also, there was no residue of any explosives.

[SMPredator]

WTF thats a goddamn missile! No spark couldve done that, i mean transport plane fuel is very safe against fire, and no spark couldve done this, i mean EVEN if it did explode cause of the fuel tanks, that doesnt explain the HUGE explosion. Only a missile could do that. Its a goddamn conspiracy

[noahzuniga]

You don't understand how already-heated oil is to be lit by a spark. Think about it.

[arsenium666]

This CIA Video actually proves there was NO MISSLE:

watch?v=roCjDRgewLw

So STFM, CONSPIRACY BELIEVERS.

Yep...EyeWitnesses DID NOT SAW any Missile:

watch?v=ug1sGlHH9zA

Err...well...FBI & CIA May have missunderstood some words...OK, IT STANDS UP: NO MISSLE.

watch?v=V0h3hXvZ7Cc

EYEWITNESS DID SAW MISSILES. FUCK CIA:

COVER UP.

[cc6482]

COVER UP. TWA 800 was shot by a MISSILE.

[jerseyscampi]

Yeah remember the iranian airbus shot down by mistake by the americans

[rasalgethi999]

Spark or SAM missile, it doesn't matter which, but the loss of lives are.

[walters1992]

what ever happened it was a tragic loss of life.

and if it was shot down who ever is responsable for it wants fucking shoting

[Fuckdencio]

wow

[jamesjr934]

*continued from below*

The reason for a cover up would be do to 600 some odd 747s still having these same issues and only way to solve this would be to scrap the aircraft and start over, which of course isn't practical as far as the airlines are concerned.

[SEGOVIA1992]

this song is hypnotic to me..

whats the name of the song

[jef1500]

Omg ... they know what happend ... there was a damaged wire that caused a little fire, that little fire was heating up the fuel, fuel exploded ...

[vincenzo15yrs]

No you are wrong. Those planes don't just burst like that. IT WAS TERROSIM

[planecrashmaster]

The cause of the crash was NOT terrorism! It was what MoDCezar said.

[captain783]

i still cant believe it happend and what makes it worse is when they show the children and teens .may God keep watch over their young souls

[MoDCezar]

the fuel tank exploded after 12 min from takeoff because the air conditioner was running and the gas from the fuel tank exploded because of some wires

[godzilla1234567890]

Let me enlighten you, the fuel that was used in that plane wasn't volatile meaning a small spark of a flame would not be enough to cause it to blow. Tests have been done to prove that it wasn't the center fuel tank to cause TWA Flight 800 to blow up. Nearly 700 people witnessed a streak of light approaching the plane then a shit load of fireballs occured. How can you buy into the FBI's bullshit. They concealed all the physical evidnece to make it point in the other direction.

[bellaggio1770]

@godzilla1234567890  Sure and it's a missile that destroyed the twin towers. Fired by the CIA of course. "rolleyes:

[godzilla1234567890]

@bellaggio1770 where did I ever say a missile hit the World Trade Center on 9/11? I know Airplanes hit the Towers no question about that. However, the government are lying scumbags who hide information and cover up anything that contradicts their "official version." TWA Flight 800 was one of these "cover-ups" whether you choose to believe it or not. I assume then you trust your government and believe that they never lie to us or cover anything up. You're way too easy on them.

[GTAstuntman101]

@godzilla1234567890 err wrong, u forgot it was delayed and airconditioning heated the fuel to make it volatile enough to make it explode

[godzilla1234567890]

@GTAstuntman101 err wrong, the government cannot prove that was what really happened. Over 700 witnesses who saw a missile approach the plane and you're going to believe the Government, the ones who weren't even there to witness it. Please just cut the shit, evidence was missing and tampered with so I refuse to believe the Government, the witnesses saw what really happened and they have been disregarded and ignored.

[GTAstuntman101]

@godzilla1234567890 the eyewitnesses were PAID to say a BIG lie

[cchris874]

@godzilla1234567890

"Over 700 witnesses who saw a missile approach the plane"

We should at least be accurate. No way did 700 people see a missile. The ascending streak that over 100 saw may have been many things, but a missile is just as problematic as any other scenario, if you want to get into a serious discussion. Start with: 30 sec time lag btwn streak and explosion.

[cchris874]

@cchris874

Let me restate that: Start with 30 sec lag between the beginning of the event (8:31:13pm) and the fireball that erupted allegedly 1-5 seconds after the streak ended. The fireball erupted, by all accounts, about 10-12 seconds before it hit the ocean - or after 8:31:40pm. Now find a witness who described a 30+ second gap between end of streak and fireball.

[kaiyno]

@godzilla1234567890 uhm the plane was 25 years old, it completed 16,869 flights with 93,303 hours of operation and you still believe a missle or whatever brought it down? this plane was very, VERY OLD AND USED, it's more than obvious that a malfunction would develop after 25 years, and with TWA's excessive overuse of its fleet with almost no mantainace checks for older planes. This was nothing more than pure negligence, just like what happened to Alaska Airlines, old fleet with no mantainance.

[Airlineboy4590]

@godzilla1234567890 k, if your going to blame the government for everything maybe you should move to france where all the pussies are.

[godzilla1234567890]

Perhaps you should go back in time to when Hitler was in power and be one of his personal Nazi bitches since you trust your government and literally kiss their ass thinking they can do no wrong. You have no fucking clue what the Government is really like. I don't trust them, that's why I question everything that they say. You on the other hand obviously don't so perhaps you should but then again you probably don't fucking care enough to pay attention to what's really going on behind the curtain.

[Airlineboy4590]

@godzilla1234567890 ok, im not saying the governement doesnt do anything wrong. What i am saying is, the actual evidence shows differently than your consperancy. I want hard facts to support your theory on the governent. HARD FACTS. Books. websites. statistics. stuff like that. until then, this discussion is over.

[godzilla1234567890]

@Airlineboy4590 Look, all I'm saying is don't trust your Gov't, TWA Flight 800 was no accident no matter how you look at it. The F.B.I. didn't even interview that many witnesses and for those who were interviewed had their stories changed to prove the Government's official version of events true. Also if you ever saw the C.I.A. animation of TWA Flight 800 you would know that they also based that on an eyewitness named Mike Wire. They changed his story too and the animation wasn't what he saw.

[Airlineboy4590]

@godzilla1234567890 didnt you just say there were 200 witnesses? they DID review 200 people. though they were not accurate >.>

[godzilla1234567890]

@Airlineboy4590 James Sanders did not tamper with evidence, yes he retrieved it from one of his contacts who did steal it, but this material on the seats was in fact missile residue so I could care less what the Government says because they lie pretty much all the time. If you aren't suspicious of this incident then it's obvious what side you are truly on. I just feel for the families of the innocent victims who perished that night. So all the witnesses are lying??

[Airlineboy4590]

@godzilla1234567890 nope. they didnt lie about what they saw, but they interrpereted what they saw wrong. and we dont know if his contact tampered with it.

[godzilla1234567890]

@Airlineboy4590 Why was it interpretated as being wrong, because the Gov't says so. Just because they have the authority to investigate and report doesn't mean it is always the truth. Well there is my point exactly, you think the contact of Sanders tampered with the evidence but yet the Gov't could do no wrong. Sanders was a cop before he became an investigative reporter. There is no physical evidence of the electrical spark in the CWT so their explanation is a theory as well.

[Airlineboy4590]

@godzilla1234567890 well let me tell you the real truth. noone REALLY knows what happened. you could be right. i could be right. from the given evidence, we could assume that my answer could be it or part of it, but really noone knows. well probably never really know what happened on that one.

[godzilla1234567890]

@Airlineboy4590 Well yeah, I totally agree with you on that. The Government has not been honest with its people and the families of those who lost loved ones that night . The Government has not been up front about alot of things such as 9/11, OKC Bombing, The Wars we are in today, TWA Flight 800, and the list goes on. I will not stop searching for the truth because the Gov't cannot play God and they cannot hide the truth forever.

[godzilla1234567890]

@Airlineboy4590 Also, you would question why the hell the F.B.I. and C.I.A. were in on this investigation when any criminal activity was officially "ruled out." This was supposed to be the job of the NTSB, but they were being shut out the almost the entire time and got no real answers. The evidence was tampered with, most of it disposed of to cover up what really happened. If you really think about it, they cannot prove their spark in the center wing tank theory to be true, it's nonsense.

[godzilla1234567890]

Well if you really looked into this you would know that there was physical evidence of a missile. There was missile residue on the seats of the plane and there was no way it was adhesive or glue because only certain seats had this residue on it. Look up James Sanders, him and his wife Liz got in trouble for collecting a sample of that residue and it proved to be explosive material from a missile. Not to mention that there were over 200 reliable witnesses that night who saw the event.

[Airlineboy4590]

@godzilla1234567890 well, if you saw the report of the investigation, they(james and liz) were tampering with the evidence and they were not governement officials. therefore, they had no place on the scene without permission. there was no residue on the seats, and the eye witnesses only saw the part of it falling out of the sky. the cloud cover hid the part where the fuel tank exploded and the nose snapped off. they deemed the witnesses, "unreliable" .

[godzilla1234567890]

First of all, the F.B.I. was not there, these eyewitnesses were so if they contradict the Govts' official version of events that makes them liars or they didn't see what they saw they were all hallucinating. Listen to yourself, do you realize how messed up that sounds? In total there over 700 eyewitnesses, but 200 more reliable who had a better view of what happened there. They can't prove there was a spark because everything in the plane blew up so they are also conspiracy theorists.

[maudale]

RIP all passengers on board! love you

[cammaro08]

hi guys i am posting this episode on youtube.see it

[gistvisions]

hey, you should burn in hell, you piece of shit.

[Penguido]

FUCK U RAMSTER.

[Penguido]

FUCK U RAMSTER.

[TrickShepherd]

There is not a shred of proof that the center tank just spontaneously exploded. Never happened before or since. Not even in simulation. Meanwhile there are scores of witnesses that saw a missile streak up. When it was breaking news the film crews interviewed them. Then the FBI shoved the NTSB out of the way and said the witnesses were high and didn't know what they saw.

[pfg999]

TrickShepherd

"Meanwhile there are scores of witnesses that saw a missile streak up"

Do you know the altitude of TWA 800 when it crashed? Was it within the range of shoulder-launched missiles? I didnt think it was - that's why I am wondering if you have researched it.

[TrickShepherd]

Who said it was shoulder fired? It was a ship based missile. Anyway, there are about 700 witnesses that will testify that they saw a missile streak up; some of them can be found on youtube. Some were on TV when this was breaking news. Why are they being ignored?

[pfg999]

TrickShepherd

"Who said it was shoulder fired? It was a ship based missile."

The reason I brought that up because it is more plausible to believe someone got their hands on a shoulder-fired missile than to think that someone got their hands on a more advanced weapon capable of striking a plane that was much higher in the air. And I dont believe that anyone onboard a US Navy ship would be able to do that and get away with it. Still, I do remember those eyewitnesses that you mentioned.

[jamesjr934]

Even the groups that believe this tragedy to be covered up have come to the conclusion that in no way was TWA 800 shot down by a missile. After investigation by these groups they believe that the likely cause was do to either a center fuel tank explosion (as the NTSB has said)or more likely metal fatigue do to the use of large sections of aluminum that was built below Boeing specifications by a Russian firm. *comment will continue above*

[tomcatpilot1]

This was the day my dad became a 727 F/O at TWA. It was the best day of his life-Then, he heard the news. He was crushed. He knew the crew, as he was a former 1011 and 747 Flight Engineer Instructor at TWA and trained them. Once, he told us about July 17, 1996. As he told us the story, he got choked up. I have NEVER seen him cry before. TWA Flight 800 was a terrible tragedy and will hopefully never happen again.

[pfg999]

tomcatpilot1

"TWA Flight 800 was a terrible tragedy and will hopefully never happen again."

Amen to that! I still remember the chilling image of the burning fires across the water that night, and how I hoped that the rescuers would find survivors.

[DuelistMaster9]

sad video but very good RIP for all the victims of TWA Flight 800

it is nice to know that accidents like this wont happen again due to new technologies and reconfigurating the plane's fuel tanks. thanks for a good tribute

[thecorn123]

would have bin even better if it had mancs on board ha ha

[bazil83]

Wow, you're utterly, uttlery retarded!

[War292004]

I still remember this day... my uncle helped bury six of those kids from Montoursville. I hope nothing like this ever happens again... I'm sure they've made changes to the Center-Wing Fuel tank so that this doesn't ever happen again.

[445chris]

I saw that on "seaconds form desaster" or how ever you spell it. so sad man, sad.

[camp69]

Sorry, Bull on the climb, CG moved aft and the plane pitched snapping passengers necks and then broke up. Anyone in aviation knows this but after the intimidation and dissapearance of a certain reporter everyone is afraid to speak. Shot right into the AC nacelles. Yea, I've got stake in this. 2 friends were aboard. I'm still pissed, I've lost my friends, my job and my family for speaking out. Now I live nowhere and no one can find me. Petin!

[Raydee27]

So what the hell with you ?

Go and get drunk outside of youtube

[ben45smith]

Nice video, good choice of music

[rangirl]

did they died?

[Imprezagtto]

yes

[445chris]

all of them did

[awc71]

that's why i don't fly.

[Parnellcakes]

"The front of the plane borke off, but all the engins,wings tail etc were proiding lift. Without the nose the plane went up, due to the unbalance of whieght. It then continued to go up until it stalled. Imagine you cut of the tip of the plane, it would still fly, but move the cut, just before the wings an it would just aboput still fly." <--- lol wtf?

[flyboyz83]

just admit it

[alessandrokaka1]

very nice work!

[michaelpece]

In the main address bar OF THE INTERNET!, replace the end with: /watch?v=qWkWXBTsgsA

This is part of the ep and will explain it!

[AzrealCold]

Taken? there is no logic in your explanation as to why the plane still cont to fly and lift?! Are you talking about cutting the nose off of a paper airplane? lol! This was an over 300 Ton airplane, If the cockpit(the brains) was cut off from an "explosion" this thing would damn near go into freefall, Even the witness account that the cia based it's computer animation on stated that the plane never went on an upward climb!

[thetaken23]

Most planes are nose heavy, it would climb. It did climb, then it stalled and went straight down.

[flytw75]

yah the nose pitched up and stalled but it didnt climb 3200ft likethey say it did

[GTAstuntman101]

@AzrealCold picture a balanced seesaw

when you remove the weight on one side, what happens?

the part with weights still on it goes down

and that happened to TWA 800

[dthorn9410]

very nice.

i like the song..

goes perfect!

[CheyenneKimballFan15]

How Did That Happen?  how did the cockpit go down but the fusealge didnt go down til 7 min later

[thetaken23]

The front of the plane borke off, but all the engins,wings tail etc were proiding lift. Without the nose the plane went up, due to the unbalance of whieght. It then continued to go up until it stalled. Imagine you cut of the tip of the plane, it would still fly, but move the cut, just before the wings an it would just aboput still fly.

[ScytheKing]

A bit jerky but good effort.

[taxibm]

it was good

[Lashleyfan]

Reaaly touching, was the footage of the explosion from Air Crash Investigation?

[thetaken23]

thanks for comenting. it was from seconds from disaster.

[HildaMinogue]

Good video, very haunting song too. Im surprised that you didn't put the "wing in the water" picture, but then again, that's too predictable.

[HildaMinogue]

Lashleyfan, the "Seconds from disaster" documentary is on Youtube, i think you can download thw whole programme. I warn you though, its scary viewing

[danilima1]

thank you for the visit and the comment!!

[whoevermaybe]

very good. Another brill production from Taken