The Murdering Moses And The Ten Commandments

[jbiemans77]

Good video, but it was an angel that did the killing of the first born, not Moses..

[guitarfuckist]

Where are you from? Country I mean. Your accent is one I have only heard a few times.

[flexbrat]

ah well that part of the world hasnt changed any has it ! they infected all the world w/that shit !

[hdmfba2]

stumbled upon your videos love them all please do more they are amazingly truthful ohh so funny

[kaduisaui]

LadyOfThinking, I love your voice and accent. Please make me more videos!

[Jamesuni]

Wonderful, thank you for sharing.

[SirGrowalott]

It's only a matter of time before religions die out and rational brain-power kicks in. Religion is poison to the human race, BIG TIME.

[AzumiRM]

I stopped it when you said "Booses" ... it's BUSES not BOOSES.

[LadyOfThinking]

Hallo tharr, hew err yew doin-g?

[Polymeron]

Sorry I don't have anything really substantive to say... I kept getting distracted by the Skyrim music o_O

[LadyOfThinking]

@Polymeron Skyrim has an awesome soundtrack. I've been cycling through Skyrim music and Skyward sword music for the past few days lol.

[Ashakat42]

@LadyOfThinking In the very beginning you used Final Fantasy 12 music, right?

[LadyOfThinking]

@Ashakat42 FF13 music for the intro. I forget which track though.  FF12 music a bit later on.

[MeiconMyself]

Slick vid.Love the lego pharaoh!

[hilldiggity]

This was great! Found you thanks to TheMudbrooker. :)

[Akira625]

I always remember the Sabbath, especially their first two albums. :)

[TheFestivelights]

'The Crusades where countries were invaded and people were forced to follow the will of the church or face being put to the sword'

When you talk about the Crusades it's important to recognize that they were largely organized as a response to Islamic jihad. It's long and complicated but what I'm saying is it wasn't just the Christian armies that were murdering and slaughtering innocents, although the Islamic-appeasing, Western Culture hating, Liberal Left want us to believe otherwise.

[LadyOfThinking]

@TheFestivelights The Crusades were pretty messed up, weren't they? And it lasted hundreds of years, not only in that conflict but across the world. I supposed my mention was more of a stab at Catholicism.

[roont]

awesome video. love the presentation.

[Astrophysicsist]

0:26

Is that Nolan North screaming? 

[TheMudbrooker]

Like the video making style!

[TheJonnyEnglish]

Nice

[kizzaht]

I had to rack my brain at 6:23, but I finally recognized it as the FF9 opening theme.  Atheism and Final Fantasy? Subscribed!

[umbraemilitos]

moar

[MrMusicalAtheist]

Wonderful video!

[LadyOfThinking]

@MrMusicalAtheist Thank you :) Did my best so maybe its not perfect but it gives a good idea of what is what.

[StephenWebb1980]

@thejewishagnostic Interestingly enough, so do I. He works at a Sunoco down the road from me...strange that.

[paperfreeck]

04:30 done by Edvard Munch - Norwegian painter :)

[mrsquishyboots]

is that elder scrolls music in the background?

[srushaggs]

@mrsquishyboots The music at the end is from Final Fantasy IX

[LadyOfThinking]

@mrsquishyboots Yep, Skyrim, FF9 and FF13.

[BelieverInterviews]

This is painful. I actually believed that stuff. Now if I can only remember where I parked my brain.

[dudethatsmyhat]

Actually, the bible says that at least after the pluage of flies, the magicians couldn't do that, and the pharoh was like "OKOK! YOU CAN GO!" But God was like "Aww... I barely got to show off... I'll harden his heart, so he'll change his mind!" God did this every time he did a pluage becuase the pharoh would decide to let them go. Even after the tenth pluage when the pharoh let them go, god did it again so he would go after them.

[tmmy773]

@dudethatsmyhat Exod (7:3) "And I will harden Pharaoh's heart" God turned his grace from Pharoh and let him decide for himself bc Pharoh would not listen to overwhelming evidence for the true God. Pharoh did this to himself bc he would not humble himself before the Lord so he removed himself from grace. Without grace all hearts are hard. After each plague Pharoh told Moses the Israelites go free but changed his mind after the plague was lifted. That is clear in the text.

[Polymeron]

@tmmy773 It takes a special kind of delusion to interpret a text that clearly says "person A does something to person B" into "Person B stood by and let person A do something to himself".

Your bible says very clearly that god hardens the Pharaoh's heart. If you can twist that around to suit a completely opposite message, then what makes you think ANY truth can be gleaned from the bible whatsoever? What makes you think a "true" interpretation even exists?

[tmmy773]

@Polymeron God never forced Pharaoh to disobey him. Pharaoh asked many times to let ppl go but refused. That was Pharaohs choice...Bible never said God forced pharaohs decision. The question is what is meant by "harden his heart." The best answer is God denied grace to Pharaoh...which none of us deserve. Exod 7:13 "Then Pharoh And Pharaoh's heart grew hard (chazaq), and he did not heed them, as the Lord had said. Pharaoh could have redeemed grace by humility but he chose not to.

[Polymeron]

@tmmy773 The "best answer" - according to whom? Why would there be a best answer, rather than one answer? Why would your god make an ambiguous book?

Also - and that's not the main point because again the multiple interpretations are - If Pharaoh has a choice here, then why does god tell Moses in advance that he will harden his heart?

"And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt." - Exodus 7:3

(The Hebrew word is Aksheh - "will harden".)

[Polymeron]

@tmmy773 So if Pharaoh had "redeemed grace by humility" god could not multiply his signs and wonders, contradicting his earlier prediction. UNLESS god was going to smite the Egyptians no matter what, which again does not strike me as particularly merciful.

So again. You're going into a real stretch on these interpretations; and there's no reason to think there's anything divine, much less benevolent, about these verses.

[tmmy773]

@Polymeron Yes, if Pharaoh had redeemed grace by humility the plagues would have stopped. Like we all can redeem grace by humility...by acknowledging God as creator.

Wesley notes: "Before he had hardened his own heart, and resisted the grace of God, and now God justly gave him up to his own heart's lusts, to strong delusions, permitting Satan to blind and harden him" If Pharaoh had given himself to Satan what chance was there he would relent...not much.

[Polymeron]

@tmmy773 Nope! Apparently you didn't read the next verse!

"But Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you, that I may lay my hand upon Egypt, and bring forth my armies, and my people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments."

Exodus 7:4

So, which is it? Was there any chance of god being wrong on this prediction? If not, then did the pharaoh really have free will?

Also note that just because Wesley claims it, does not mean this interpretation makes any sense...

[tmmy773]

@Polymeron The Lord tells Moses bc no time for God..He knew Pharaoh not humble himself and obey God. who assuring Moses the Israelites be free. No chance God was wrong..Pharaoh still had free will.. To withold grace serious but doesn't deny free will. We need grace to "help" us to choose good but also must accept from God. Pharaoh could have accepted Gods will grace returned him. He "chose" not to. "Wilful hardness" (Wesley--not perfect maybe but very good)

[sean32laf]

@tmmy773 Your "Lord" is an evil fairytale, but others like you seem to feel the need to be apologetic for the obvious evil and try to dismiss and twist it from its obviousness into something more appealing or compassionate that others should embrace it and call evil....good. God will not save you, no story can, no matter how much "holy" ass you kiss. Its ALL BS! You are more moral than ANY God of the bible. Your standards of morality exceed the so-called devine .......does it not?

[MrDevilstreaker]

@tmmy773 So then murden is the justified? OK ! I understand the bible now - it basically is fine to torture and kill people - thanks for the clarification!

[tmmy773]

@MrDevilstreaker Murder is not justified in any way. However, God has the moral right to take and give life. He is God and we are His creatures. If include death of firstborn males Egypt are 10 plagues (10 myst num..order) rebuke false gods Egypt. Plague 6 sores on man, beast (Isis goddess medicine). Plague 10 was for Pharaoh himself (son of Ra). Death of children (went to heaven) as awful punishment to Pharaoh who not let them live in grace and who rejected God's mercy.

[MrDevilstreaker]

@tmmy773 So murder on a huge scale (Men women and children included) is justified ONLY if god says it is ...(i.e. killing first first born)

[MrDevilstreaker]

@MrDevilstreaker You actually believe that murder is justified (men and women) ONLY if god says its ok? Now tell me - what are YOUR thoughts on this? DO YOU think this is a moral way for a god to act? And if you give me some garbage about "only god knows this" then you fail. I want your "thinking" response to this. You as a human being -do you think its justified that a god kill women AND children. I need to know this.

[Dandramere]

Jews where never in Egypt, because Jews are liars.

[Louis1301]

@Dandramere and you were there? thats how you know that??? people are liars, so you were never here! Hey... thats a nice assumption! brightens my day! if you've got nothing meaningfull to say... its better to hush...

[Dandramere]

@Louis1301 No it's not an assumption, the archealogical proof shows there was no Jews in Egypt at that time. I wasn't there when the Romans invaded Britain but I know they did because we have: Scientific evidence. You silly, silly little fool. Science yet again, makes a group of religious people look like the ignorant, filthy savages they are, and I again sit atop of my throne the alpha human, I wave thee from my sight.

[rkyeun]

Oops. Sorry, LadyOfThinking. You've made a grave error here.

The Ten Commandments aren't the ones from Exodus 20. I mean yes, those are commandments, and there are ten of them, but they aren't The Ten Commandments. Those are in Exodus 34. It says the ones in Exodus 34 are The Ten Commandments right in Exodus 34.

It's a common mistake. Some apologist writes a chapter heading "The Ten Commandments" above Exodus 20, because they really want those to be them and not Exodus 34... but it just ain't.

[LadyOfThinking]

@rkyeun True but I wanted more to highlight the common ones that most people use since there are multiple variations and they say similar if not the same things in different orders. SO I was going for the popular but I will try and get them exact in future :)

[rkyeun]

@LadyOfThinking

Well that's the thing though. The actual 10 Commandments aren't /anything/ like the ones in Exodus 20. Not killing, lying, or stealing in particular isn't among them. Instead they consist of the order to destroy the temples, holy sites, or whatever of other religions, what animals to break the necks of, and what God's name is. :)

[dlbattle100]

@LadyOfThinking Actually the ones in Exodus 34 bear little resemblance. They include things like keeping the festival of unleavened bread and sacrificing the first born of each animal. Nothing about not killing or stealing. Maybe those were the ones Moses was following.

[8368OFTQA]

No offense, but I find your voice to be both hard to understand and annoying.

[palerider1775]

@8368OFTQA I'll agree that it is definitely hard to understand. I can't watch any further...

[coldsteel122]

I may agree with the video...after all i'm an atheist....but the way it was delivered was unwatchable. The annoying voice made me wanna slap someone.

[lewisner]

2.53 "god" is a "he" because he used to have a wife (Asherah) who was written out of the bible.

[189643478]

@lewisner What if god is lesbian?

[lewisner]

@189643478 Well where did she get the Holy Sperm from to impregnate the 12 year old Mary?

[189643478]

@lewisner She is all-powerful and acts in mysterious ways. Strangely enough the first human she made was a male and to make a female she needed one of his ribs. similarly she can take an egg cell of her girlfriend and magically transform in into the Holy Sperm ;-)

[lewisner]

@189643478 My brain just disintegrated 8-(

[189643478]

@lewisner Hihi

[enalopez26]

Great video! 

[StephenWebb1980]

One thing I find funny about the infallible buybull is that the law "Thou Shalt not Kill" is not even right - killing is not necessarily murder. I mean people can be killed in self defense and by accident, that's not murder though but it is still killing. So infallible king james buybull, which is it? Thou Shalt not Kill or thou Shalt not Murder? To kill or to murder, that is the question.

[IKillBabyKittensLOL]

@StephenWebb1980 Murder probably - killing would apply to animals and plants.

[StephenWebb1980]

@IKillBabyKittensLOL Right, the prohibition is against murder but the KJV says Kill, so its wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. But there are people who still ignore this fact and blunder off into the abyss with their ridiculous beliefs.

[dubldeka]

@StephenWebb1980 It only applies to a guy named Thou.

Thou, was an old biblical name that went out of fashion as kids named Thou were not allowed to kill and proved useless when a spider got into the tent.

[StephenWebb1980]

@dubldeka That's a creative answer lol.

[tmmy773]

@StephenWebb1980 The Hebrew used in OT means "murder" uses Ratsach..murder. So it means thou shall not murder.

[MrTheblackmessenger]

@tmmy773 but moses did murder 3000 people in the next chapter didn't he?

[Stairc]

And the lord spake unto Moses saying...

(31:17) "Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him."

(31:18) "But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

So yes, Moses = genocidal rapist. Well, god told him to do it of course... So I guess that makes God the genocidal rapist. Of course, Moses comes off like a Nazi camp guard here then, just "following orders".

[StephenWebb1980]

@tmmy773 Right but my point was that there exist JKV "onlyists" that swear up and down that their buybull is the perfect word of god through and through and that any deviation from it, even on letter would make it invalid or corrupt. The prohibition is against premeditated murder, not killing. I still don't see how war, no matter how one attempts to justify it, is not considered murder and this goes especially for invasions of others land.

[tmmy773]

@StephenWebb1980 You are correct. There will always be language and culture differences...so we have always to compare with Hebrew / Greek...or let trusted others do so. War can only be justified in self-defense i would say...or if another land or people were being killed or attacked. So invasions like in Iraq was immoral for this reason. I'm from US btw.

[TheCrimsonification]

The 10 Commandment s are an egomanaiacal piece of shit. Whatever happened to the Commandment "Thou shalt not boil a kid in it's mothers milk?" Fucking theists are zombified.

[StephenWebb1980]

@TheCrimsonification I assume you know they are talking about goats right? LOL. Needless to say there are so many other laws mentioned in Deuteronomy (or is it Leviticus? ah well...) its not even funny. Some are just plain stupid, and it takes a zombie to follow through with them...because the moment you actually start to think for yourself, one begins to see how nonsensical it all is.

[tmmy773]

In the old testament people could be brutal...when the slave driver was beating an old man he wasn't using pepper spray...there was no "rules" about police brutality..there was a good chance the old man wouldn't survive. So it was self-defense...but it doesn't matter in Ancient Egypt killing a guard for any reason meant death. btw the the Mongols and Huns weren't Christian. You think wars will stop when Christianity is driven underground...wow you are so wrong.

[TheCrimsonification]

@tmmy773 The NWO will eradicate religion in every form. It's a lie they created to control the populace. They will destroy their creation. religion is a lie. A belief in an Imaginary skyman is obsolete. They have microchips now. As for population control, the Theists are the 1st to die.

[tmmy773]

@TheCrimsonification They will try to. Many people hope its a lie. Its like the old saying...i can swear heaven doesn't exist but i i hope hell doesn't exist. The nwo will create wars...that's what they do. When they conquer everywhere they will create more wars. You dont have to believe me.

[spaceyourface01]

@TheCrimsonification said "... the Theists are the 1st to die."

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. If all your previous assertions are accurate it would only make sense that theists would be preserved since they are so easily controlled.

[demonorse]

@tmmy773 The huns were defending themselves and their lands FROM christians

[tmmy773]

@demonorse Is that why they invaded Europe and killed many thousands of innocent peasants and made them live in fear for a generation. Weren't they pushed out from their homeland by russio-asiatic tribes.

[demonorse]

@tmmy773 The Huns came from europe, their armies comprised of peasants. Mongols invaded Europe from the east. Can't remember authors name, but book title is "Empires and Barbarians" informative and very dry. Romans had adopted christianity by the time the huns came a knocking at Romes door.

[tmmy773]

@demonorse sounds like a good book...actually my brothers are more into history but i like it also. I quick checked the Huns originated in the Russian stepps but they settled north of Danube region...but soemthing drove them west into W Europe...another tribe from what i gather. The Huns were soldiers and tribesmen also. Thats different from peasants who are peaceful mostly.

[demonorse]

@tmmy773 One of the things I was able to learn from this horrible book was migrations of peoples were so slow that eventually most of northern and slavic Europe had taken on the cultural aspects of the Hun. What began as a movement towards Romes borders (initially to join in the economic revolutions the romans offered) turned into an all out invasion when various tribes felt their tributes to rome were unduly high. What the hell were we talking about?

[tmmy773]

@demonorse That is so true how the Huns left their cultural mark on the country... thanks for explaining how the migrations of peoples towards Roman lands...that makes sense bc Rome had order and civilization (for the time) with laws, structure, etc. But still the Huns did invade France and Germany and killed many innocent people. Doing so for money is wrong. The video say wars in early Europe bc of Church. Not true. There is a story of Atilla meeting with the Pope at the time.

[StephenWebb1980]

@demonorse I'm pretty sure that the huns were steppic, from the steppes of asia. Not exactly mongolian though.

[demonorse]

@StephenWebb1980 You and tmmy773 are both correct about the huns. I was confusing them with Gothic tribes, senior moment I guess. Most historians now say the meeting between Atilla and the pope never happened.

[TheCrimsonification]

The Bibblit was created as way for the sheeple to control them selves through fear. I fear nothing. Fuck religion. It's nothing more than a way to manipulate moronic no-minds. The Bibblit is nothing more than an excuse to kill whatever is different. Aleins are just like us, fucked up.

[emilyhasbooks]

Great entry! I hope to see more videos from you.

[JGvisions]

lololol, i love the animation you used for this. what was the programing you used to make this? also great video!

[LadyOfThinking]

@JGvisions Thanks :D After Effects, Photoshop and cups of tea.

[mimura47]

hmm, Final Fantasy 7 background music during 10 commandments reading?

[ZipLineAttack]

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