Well, water's good for you as well, as a life giving fluid, but if you get too much of it you drown. Plus, my understanding is that the globe is warming, but maybe you've heard something different
I'm surprised it's just 12 hours. I would have guessed longer than that. And I didn't know that Virgin trains go to Holyhead. Last time I went is a few years ago and the train was very por quality and had to change at Crewe.
I took train journeys from Dublin to Drogheda and Wexford during the day recently. A thousand ton train with13 people these distances and employing 5 is idiotic from a carbon debt and every other consideration. Small off peak rail buses would make sense. Small private rail buses on the dart when the big darts have stopped would make a lot of sense. They could reopen the rosslare waterford line. they could be driven by passengers or remotely. CIE is stuck in 1872. family runs it ?
@CiaranCuffe Metro North promotes the use of Dublin Airport as a means of travel, Hardly sustainable transport Ciaran. You and your fellow Green Party ministers have chosen this over a project that would like the two busiest railway stations to Dublin's central business and retail districts.
@CiaranCuffe Metro North estimates a ridership of 34 Million a year according to the RPA, the Dart Underground project would have boosted existing ridership from 30 Million to 100 Million a year, Twice the environmental benefit of the Metro North.
Face it Ciaran, You and your Green Party cronies shelved the more environmental project just because Metro North runs through Trevor Sargent's constituency.
@CiaranCuffe I'm a fan of fast travel, it's more faster, cheaper and more efficient. I'd love low carbon travel everywhere, but I can't ignore reality.
@CiaranCuffe Nothing is ever wrong if you ignore the reality of any situation. (BTW Are you bizarrely banned from reading on planes, in hotel rooms etc?) It would appear as though carbon emmissions are your only thought on this journey. Time travelling, value for taxpayer money, etc presumably don't count for a huge amount.
@CiaranCuffe Ciaran, you post this promoting using intercity rail over flighing YET you and your party are promoting a rail link costing the irish taxpayer over 3 billion euro TO DUBLIN AIRPORT!!!
To make it worse you and you "green" chums have effectively starved of funds the most important rail project
The Dart Underground, which would have linked the country's busiest railway stations and quadrupled the Dart network in one go just to build a choo choo to your beloved airport.
@CiaranCuffe You are an environmental cheat and a fraud. How much is the DAA paying you and your "green" party to push for the Metro North rail link to Dublin Airport to the detriment of the Dart Underground, a genuine sustainable transport project Ciaran??
@CiaranCuffe You are an environmental cheat and a fraud. How much is the DAA paying you and your "green" party to push for the Metro North rail link to Dublin Airport to the detriment of the Dart Underground, a genuine sustainable transport project Ciaran??
Wow, rarely I have I seen a politician be so proud of the fact that they can spend 3 times (and that's being generous, in reality it's 5 times) longer than normal to get to a place, not to mention the cost. Imagine if someone in a real job bragged about taking three times longer to go someplace.
Nice Vid. I do the London-Dublin sail rail trip quite often and find it on a par with flying. Taking in the trip to the airport, hanging around the terminal and the trip from the airport, sail-rail is not that much slower but a lot more comfortable, just make sure you get the swift fast ferry.
One annoying thing is Irish Ferries and Virgin still charge an arm and a leg for their scabby broadband. offer it for free and they will have a lot more people using their services.
What a load of nonsense this video is. Ciaran, are you having a mid-life crises? Inter-railing is for students.
HSS = carbon intensive vessel. I doubt this method of travel was "greener" than a Ryanair flight.
Do you really expect the majority of people to waste 12 hours (15 hours if you took the conventional ferry) travelling to Paris. How does this prevent global warming.. I mean global cooling.. or ehh climate change. Sorry, what are you calling this nonsense nowadays?
Yeh, but how many cars and trucks does the plane carry? I think if you do the maths the carbon emitted per person or per kilo carried is better by HSS than by plane
I agree that a plane cannot carry cars or trucks and the HSS may be better on a per kilo of cargo basis but with regards passengers I have my doubts. The HSS in the marine industry is called "the concorde of the seas" and now has poor loadings of on average only 250-300 passengers per crossing. With these numbers the emission levels of carbon per passenger are vary high. The high fuel consumption of this vessel is the reason why the frequency on the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead has been reduced.
The ferry that was taken is a Stena HSS 1500 series that actually has 4 Jet engines from aircraft that were so fuel hungry they no longer fly!! The HSS uses 36000 litres of fuel for the crossing between Dun Laoghaire and Holyhead. An A320 to Paris would actually use just over half this amount, so you could of saved alot of time and carbon by simply flying!! Now if you had of went on a conventional ferry you would of went the low carbon way as the Ulysses only uses 7500 litres for a one way trip.
@CiaranCuffe Sorry but I have to take issue with this calculation. If you give yourself a margin of error of five times your lowest to highest estimate (2% to 10%), then how can you accurately state it as fact? Did you learn maths from the same person who told Mary White that a text message tax would bring in 1 billion?
Trains/boats are certainly low carbon for freight but I am not sure the carbon emission of a 70Kg or so load is actually lower on a 12 hour journey that a 90 minute flight.
Pretty good video if I may say, using all-land transport all the way from Dublin to Paris. It can be done cheaply if one knows where and when to book. The HSS always appealed to me and the Eurostar is fantastic - those first-class meals look ace! Typical arrival in Paris with a police-car or ambulance siren coming from somewhere!
How was this low carbon? You went on a ship. The ship is excluded from Kyoto and ships are twice as polluting as airliners? How is this anything other than "I don't like Michael O'Leary"?
Ships are between one twentieth to one hundreth less carbon intensive than air travel. You need to read beyond the Guardian headlines, and get into the main text of that article! Bon voyage, Ciarán
OK. So the Green party think ships are cuddly. Just like the way they don't challenge agricultural carbon emissions. Oh and the British and French get a lot of their electricity from nuclear power.
@Fordprefect1000 I wouldn't give any time to this guy. This so called sustainable transport minister and his fellow "green" party ministers have forced through a rail link to the airport to the detriment of other rail projects. Just in case it wasn't attractive enough to fly, now you'll have a metro right to your plan thanks to the Greens.
Well, water's good for you as well, as a life giving fluid, but if you get too much of it you drown. Plus, my understanding is that the globe is warming, but maybe you've heard something different
CiaranCuffe 11 months ago
Trains are cool but I dont dig the low carbon, being as its a life giving gas and the globe is not even warming
1madaboutguitar 11 months ago
I'm surprised it's just 12 hours. I would have guessed longer than that. And I didn't know that Virgin trains go to Holyhead. Last time I went is a few years ago and the train was very por quality and had to change at Crewe.
hanifbul 1 year ago
I took train journeys from Dublin to Drogheda and Wexford during the day recently. A thousand ton train with13 people these distances and employing 5 is idiotic from a carbon debt and every other consideration. Small off peak rail buses would make sense. Small private rail buses on the dart when the big darts have stopped would make a lot of sense. They could reopen the rosslare waterford line. they could be driven by passengers or remotely. CIE is stuck in 1872. family runs it ?
greens myass
tumadoireacht 1 year ago
Thomas, I'm a fan of slow travel. I'd never argue that carbon is the only factor to take into account.
Evantis,
Metro North is a good project in its own right, not just because it gives the airport a fixed-rail link
CiaranCuffe 1 year ago
@CiaranCuffe Metro North promotes the use of Dublin Airport as a means of travel, Hardly sustainable transport Ciaran. You and your fellow Green Party ministers have chosen this over a project that would like the two busiest railway stations to Dublin's central business and retail districts.
evantis121 1 year ago
@CiaranCuffe Metro North estimates a ridership of 34 Million a year according to the RPA, the Dart Underground project would have boosted existing ridership from 30 Million to 100 Million a year, Twice the environmental benefit of the Metro North.
Face it Ciaran, You and your Green Party cronies shelved the more environmental project just because Metro North runs through Trevor Sargent's constituency.
evantis121 1 year ago
@CiaranCuffe I'm a fan of fast travel, it's more faster, cheaper and more efficient. I'd love low carbon travel everywhere, but I can't ignore reality.
thomasrneville 1 year ago
@thomasrneville Apologies for the words "it's more faster", a little gramatical faux pas.
thomasrneville 1 year ago
Less carbon emissions Thomas, plus you get to do a bit of reading on the journey, what's bad about that?
CiaranCuffe 1 year ago
@CiaranCuffe Nothing is ever wrong if you ignore the reality of any situation. (BTW Are you bizarrely banned from reading on planes, in hotel rooms etc?) It would appear as though carbon emmissions are your only thought on this journey. Time travelling, value for taxpayer money, etc presumably don't count for a huge amount.
thomasrneville 1 year ago
@CiaranCuffe Ciaran, you post this promoting using intercity rail over flighing YET you and your party are promoting a rail link costing the irish taxpayer over 3 billion euro TO DUBLIN AIRPORT!!!
To make it worse you and you "green" chums have effectively starved of funds the most important rail project
The Dart Underground, which would have linked the country's busiest railway stations and quadrupled the Dart network in one go just to build a choo choo to your beloved airport.
evantis121 1 year ago
@CiaranCuffe You are an environmental cheat and a fraud. How much is the DAA paying you and your "green" party to push for the Metro North rail link to Dublin Airport to the detriment of the Dart Underground, a genuine sustainable transport project Ciaran??
evantis121 1 year ago
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@CiaranCuffe You are an environmental cheat and a fraud. How much is the DAA paying you and your "green" party to push for the Metro North rail link to Dublin Airport to the detriment of the Dart Underground, a genuine sustainable transport project Ciaran??
evantis121 1 year ago
Wow, rarely I have I seen a politician be so proud of the fact that they can spend 3 times (and that's being generous, in reality it's 5 times) longer than normal to get to a place, not to mention the cost. Imagine if someone in a real job bragged about taking three times longer to go someplace.
thomasrneville 1 year ago
Nice Vid. I do the London-Dublin sail rail trip quite often and find it on a par with flying. Taking in the trip to the airport, hanging around the terminal and the trip from the airport, sail-rail is not that much slower but a lot more comfortable, just make sure you get the swift fast ferry.
One annoying thing is Irish Ferries and Virgin still charge an arm and a leg for their scabby broadband. offer it for free and they will have a lot more people using their services.
evantis121 1 year ago
Im travellling from Sheffield to Amsterdam in August which will all be by train, should be interesting???!!!!
COVENTRYSUCKS 1 year ago
What a load of nonsense this video is. Ciaran, are you having a mid-life crises? Inter-railing is for students.
HSS = carbon intensive vessel. I doubt this method of travel was "greener" than a Ryanair flight.
Do you really expect the majority of people to waste 12 hours (15 hours if you took the conventional ferry) travelling to Paris. How does this prevent global warming.. I mean global cooling.. or ehh climate change. Sorry, what are you calling this nonsense nowadays?
dart22 1 year ago
Yeh, but how many cars and trucks does the plane carry? I think if you do the maths the carbon emitted per person or per kilo carried is better by HSS than by plane
CiaranCuffe 2 years ago
I agree that a plane cannot carry cars or trucks and the HSS may be better on a per kilo of cargo basis but with regards passengers I have my doubts. The HSS in the marine industry is called "the concorde of the seas" and now has poor loadings of on average only 250-300 passengers per crossing. With these numbers the emission levels of carbon per passenger are vary high. The high fuel consumption of this vessel is the reason why the frequency on the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead has been reduced.
EIWT 2 years ago
The ferry that was taken is a Stena HSS 1500 series that actually has 4 Jet engines from aircraft that were so fuel hungry they no longer fly!! The HSS uses 36000 litres of fuel for the crossing between Dun Laoghaire and Holyhead. An A320 to Paris would actually use just over half this amount, so you could of saved alot of time and carbon by simply flying!! Now if you had of went on a conventional ferry you would of went the low carbon way as the Ulysses only uses 7500 litres for a one way trip.
EIWT 2 years ago
Im going to do that sometime.
MUFCM16ORA 2 years ago
Great video 5*
ay76 3 years ago
You can now walk from Euston Station to the Eurostar at St Pancras Station.
Walked it with a large rucksack last year in about 10mins.
betamonu 3 years ago
it's great for me now because from Sheffield you go to St Pancras so there no walking :L
xjabi 2 years ago
It's great to see a TD who is not too high and mighty to upload casual videos to Youtube! well done!
DiaboloMootopia 3 years ago
I'd say between one tenth to one fiftieth of air travel
CiaranCuffe 3 years ago
@CiaranCuffe Sorry but I have to take issue with this calculation. If you give yourself a margin of error of five times your lowest to highest estimate (2% to 10%), then how can you accurately state it as fact? Did you learn maths from the same person who told Mary White that a text message tax would bring in 1 billion?
thomasrneville 1 year ago
Yes, but is it actually low carbon?
Trains/boats are certainly low carbon for freight but I am not sure the carbon emission of a 70Kg or so load is actually lower on a 12 hour journey that a 90 minute flight.
DaveS63 3 years ago
Pretty good video if I may say, using all-land transport all the way from Dublin to Paris. It can be done cheaply if one knows where and when to book. The HSS always appealed to me and the Eurostar is fantastic - those first-class meals look ace! Typical arrival in Paris with a police-car or ambulance siren coming from somewhere!
jamesthebongoman 3 years ago
I'm not so sure...the HSS uses up more energy - but probably a nicer trip than plane.
EPPower 4 years ago
when eurostar moves to st. pancras, you could probably walk from euston, even more environmental.
mrtulala1 4 years ago
good man ciaran, did ya go out and get sloshed in paris that night yeah?
dazziola 4 years ago
I second melonheadorange question. I bet you can fly from Dublin to Paris and BACK for 50 quid if not lower.
Ship: approx £20 singl
Train to London: £20 single if you booked a cheap deal, if not as much as £100.
Tube: £4
Eurostar single in 1st class: approx £150.
Saying b*****s to that i'll fly and get there in 4 hours (including tranfers to / from airports): PRICELESS
tamar832 4 years ago
we're doing this on saturday, how did you go by dun laoire and meet the eurostar.... not enough time... we've to leave from dublin...
lisaconmara 4 years ago
now that your going to be in goveerment with fianna fail you will be taking the private goverment jet which is not low carbon
jjbrien 4 years ago
one question how much
melonheadorange 4 years ago
Thats fantastic!
Railspot 4 years ago
First class transport gem...on land too, I do it by HGV same route burn a bit more pcb but with Euro 4 SPEC ENGINE
daveo1348 4 years ago
Great video as usual Ciarán, love the iniaitive of going to Paris on in a low carbon intensive way! Keep up the good fight!
Clyngy 4 years ago
stop polluting this website with your videos
JDKXPRESS 4 years ago
This sounds like madness.
How long was your weekend trip?
What percentage of it was spent "Slow Travelling"?
Reducing carbon emissions is desirable, but what about life, balance and perspective?
For those of us who take two flights per year, this is nonsense.
Life is about juggling conflicting goals. Time, Environmental, Cost, Convenience, etc. Juggling with one ball isn't too difficult!
Balance Ciaran, Please!
mulpy 5 years ago
I love this video. Well done Ciaran. Very impressed.
damienmulley 5 years ago
How was this low carbon? You went on a ship. The ship is excluded from Kyoto and ships are twice as polluting as airliners? How is this anything other than "I don't like Michael O'Leary"?
Fordprefect1000 5 years ago
Ships are between one twentieth to one hundreth less carbon intensive than air travel. You need to read beyond the Guardian headlines, and get into the main text of that article! Bon voyage, Ciarán
CiaranCuffe 5 years ago
OK. So the Green party think ships are cuddly. Just like the way they don't challenge agricultural carbon emissions. Oh and the British and French get a lot of their electricity from nuclear power.
I never mentioned the Guardian once.
Fordprefect1000 5 years ago
Right...so do you accept that ships and trains are a lower carbon way to travel?
MPidge 4 years ago
@Fordprefect1000 I wouldn't give any time to this guy. This so called sustainable transport minister and his fellow "green" party ministers have forced through a rail link to the airport to the detriment of other rail projects. Just in case it wasn't attractive enough to fly, now you'll have a metro right to your plan thanks to the Greens.
evantis121 1 year ago