"There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don't excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. ." said angel heredia in an interview
His only requirement is do it right after the fight & the weeks leading to the fight but not the day before the fight like the ones with Morales he lost that fight when he agreed to that then I think Morales was fine to do it after the fight then the next 2 meetings Morales lost to that ( It's small difference). If Mayweather demands Pacman can demand too! I guess that's just fair.
At about 6:27 Steward makes a crucial comment where he observes that normally (he has been watching pac for a long time) Pacroid would throw punches, rest, move around before coming back but here he seems to be punching non-stop...in fact steward doubts he can keep it up. Pac's previous fight was only a few months before where Steward was the commentator for HBO as well. This points to a rare, sudden, unexplained increase in Pac's stamina...also this was Ariza's 1st fight with Pac...hmmm
funny everyone saying that pacman beat the weakest champ in 135.. but at that time, the lineal champ was Juan Diaz.. lol.. you think Juan Diaz would be standing after 9 Rounds?
what have they agreed to...........because last time I checked Bob Arum said WADA were going to test Manny Pacquiao in the Philippines....BUT GUESS WHAT
WADA are NOT a testing agency.
It's so fucking simple, if your clean, take the random unlimted blood and urine test handled by the USADA. They can handle manny even in the Philippines.....Bob arum talking about WADA is a SMOKESCREEN.
All of those ppl's changes happened past 30. Manny did his body change at early 20's. He was finishing developing his body form from teenager to man, natural growth.
manny said he can take the test but not closer to the fight and he will take the test after the fight, in orther that it will never take affect to his training and to his fight.. is that not enought? mayweather is a ducking fighter, is he thinks that he cant win to his opponent, he refuses the fight... he refuse margarito too.. if he want to fight manny he needs to do something to be able to set the fight, but he didnt do something, he says the same thing over and over again "HE SHOULD TAKE TEST
EPO??? But of course. The guys said they began to see some signs of a decline. He gains weight, gets faster, gets stronger, and has unlimited stamina? He is looking so crazy in training, that the press is saying that he's faster and stronger than ever before. Mayweather's lost his legs (according to Freddie Roach) when he was the same age as Manny is now. Manny's not losing, he's gaining. Ok, take those tests and do the same thing he's been doing, then I'll respect his greatness.
people that have been in the gyms for over 21 years can spot a person juicing a mile away and so can many .they all agree that Manny is taking PED's.The striations in his arms, neck and face is a dead give away.The fight with Cotto also confirmed the OPINION that Manny Pacquiao is taking EPO.
If my memory serves me correctly..i believe there was a round in this fight where manny pacquiao throws non-stop punches ....straight for an entire round...no recovery time needed whatsoever. Just listen to emmanuel and lampley throughout this fight...their comments let us all know that something is not right here...not right at all..
Floyd is not much of a coward & has the skills to beat manny and he knows it, but when he senses danger or a threat he just talks what he can do but doesn't do it.. his cowardliness is getting the best of his legacy when he looks back.
Roberto Duran dropped Iran Barkley at 160 pounds, James Toney tko'd Barkley in the 10th but never dropped him, and hit him with many clean punches. Duran started his career at 119, that's a 41 pound difference, and he kept his power through all those divisions, what Manny is doing now has been done before.
@HurtadoJames ok umm Roberto Duran knocked down iran Barkley ended in SD. which any fighter can get knocked down, but you dont talk about how after that all his wins were against lower caliber fighters. When it came to higher caliber fighters he lost. Unlike manny who gets knocked Out twice at lower weights ballons in weight now he can ko people lol. Oh dont bring up James Toney he was caught on steriods and he had the same trainer as who....Manny Pacquiao
@MegaBigthumbs Manny was knocked out in the lower weights because of poor nutrition and bad trainers. Also, he was only 17 year in his first knock out, and 20 in the second one. This was before when he couldn't even afford a decent water bottle, let alone proper nutrition. He was still growing back then. He was only 4 foot 11 inches.
At about 6:27 Steward makes a crucial comment where he observes that normally (he has been watching pac for a long time) Pacroid would throw punches, rest, move around before coming back but here he seems to be punching non-stop...in fact steward doubts he can keep it up. Pac's previous fight was only a few months before where Steward was the commentator for HBO as well. This points to a rare, sudden, unexplained increase in Pac's stamina...also this was Ariza's 1st fight with Pac...hmmm
@masterblaster102 “A blend of whey, soy and milk proteins, I blend everything. He started taking it right before the Diaz fight. What I give Manny runs the gamut through dairy, milk, meat, fish and poultry proteins, it runs the gamut to every different source of protein that we can. This didn’t happen overnight. It took a long time. Manny didn’t know anything about recovery and the importance of proper nutrition.” Ariza told the Boxinginsider.(yeah, now tell me a cowboys story)
@masterblaster102 Yeah. Researched about it the other day. Well, as far as I know, Pac has agreed to unlimited and random urine testing long before he fully agreed to Floyd's testing demands. And it has been clearly stated, that urine is more than enough. Blood samples are actually futile if urine is already available.
However, as Conte said. Any fighter can take EPO way before training camp. It will be undetectable when tested "randomly" during training.
@patojag; Pac has not agreed to the testing...there are lots of videos on youtube that prove that. If OSDT is as ineffective as you say then Pac should have no problem afterall Ortiz, Mosley and now Khan have no problems with it
@masterblaster102 That means that Floyd's OSDT testing demands is smoke and mirrors. I am not really saying that Pac is not roids. Well he could roiding while off from training. But the way I understand the articles, anyone can do it... Floyd is as guilty or innocent as Pac. As far as I know, when a fighter is smart and determined enough, when he takes EPO, he won't get caught. OSDT or not.
At about 6:27 Steward makes a crucial comment where he observes that normally (he has been watching pac for a long time) Pacroid would throw punches, rest, move around before coming back but here he seems to be punching non-stop...in fact steward doubts he can keep it up. Pac's previous fight was only a few months before where Steward was the commentator for HBO as well. This points to a rare, sudden, unexplained increase in Pac's stamina...also this was Ariza's 1st fight with Pac...hmmm
That comment right there made the boxing world question Manny not being on ROIDS. He gain all this weight in two years and it's all muscle. Thats not that common because in sports to gain weight you have to in take calories and to take in calories you gain weight which comes on as fat. He put all that weight on as muscle.
@topdog90U he's the same size, he just doesn't cut weight anymore. clearly everyone knows this by now... it's been widely documented that his fighting weight has been in the 140's since his days as a super-featherweight.. it's obvious that cutting 16lbs to make weight took a toll on his ability to take shots... come on man, do a lil research and you will find answers, instead of looking to "steroids" right away.. of all people you believe what mayweather sr says? SMH
@wawabootypop Come on now stop making shit up out of your ass. He wasn't struggling to make weight he drained morales ass when he finally decided to fight him. He also got his way and fighting with small gloves. The thing that make me think he does roids is he wasn't dominating the lower weight classes and moved up and is this dominate fighter. You get stronger with more weight but hitting bigger fighters also hurt you as well.
@topdog90U making shit up? ok, clearly you don't know shit about boxing. he was draining his ass making weight, that is a fact. i know you're new to boxing just based on what you say. do some research. my man would gain 15+lbs from weigh in to fight night, how you gonna say he didn't drain himself? another thing about pac not dominating in the lower divisions - you're making a fool out of yourself man, he had a Hall of Fame career long before he made the jump to the higher weights. idiot.
@topdog90U btw, you're the first person to say that manny pacquiao wasn't dominating opponents in the lower weight classes (LMAO and SMH) you're probably the only person to ever say that. again, save yourself the embarrassment and do some research. but for the sake of your education, here are just some of packman's victims: ledwaba - dominated; lucero - dominated; barrera - dominated; morales - dominated twice; velazquez - dominated; solis - dominated.
@wawabootypop Because he had 3 lose's and was in battles he wasn't knocking everybody out like he is now stupid. Stop looking for something to right about you don't know what your talking about. He lost his fight against Marquez just one the first one could've went either way but he was out box both fights. He lose to Morales and when Morales wanted a rematch he waited until Morales moved up and drain him at feather weight when Morales couldn't make the wait. but Manny was to big.
@topdog90U whaaaaaaat?? i don't think you said one right thing in your comment.. first of all pac had 35 KOs in the "lower weights"... only 3 KOs since he moved up from LW, 2 of which were TKOs.. and the last time i checked he went 12 rounds in his last 4 fights... so stop pretending like he's knocking bigger people out cold. yes he dominated the bigger fighters, but he couldn't knock out Clottey, Margarito, or Mosley. so just... stop.
@topdog90U second, pac was the one who wanted the rematch with Morales, he lost remember? and how you gonna say he made him wait? REALLY? their first fight was in Mar '05, their second was in Jan '06... all said, they fought a trilogy less than 2 yrs. that's 3 fights in 20 months. by comparison his trilogy with barrera took 4yrs and 8 months to complete.
as for the weight, did you forget they were fighting for the WBC super-featherweight title? and you want them to fight at 130? SMH
@wawabootypop No he did not go watch the fight they ask him after the fight if he wanted a rematch and he couldn't answer the question. He just made excuses about his gloves being to big and now he always fight with small gloves.
@topdog90U um ok, obviously they both wanted to fight each other if the fought a trilogy in 20 months, some "elite" fighters don't even fight three fights in three years... and it does it really matter? pac DESTROYED morales twice after Morales outpointed him... again, its a moot point.
@wawabootypop Your a fucking idiot. I'm not talking about the trilogy yeah he won why not go at it again. Go to the post fight interviewafter Manny lost the first time he didn't want to fight himwhen they ask him if he want to fight again. After the first fight Morales was ready to give Manny a rematch right away he needed a fight Manny didn't want to fight yet, so Morales fought someone else lose and then Manny wanted him. Do your research before you challenge me talking out of your ass.
@topdog90U first of all you're the fucking troll who knows shit about boxing... I've already schooled your ignorant ass... first of all, how you gonna talk about manny didn't wanna fight morales when he fought him 2x more, the rematch being just months after the first fight?? smh, do your research,... second, who the hell cares what pac said right after the fight?? thats all you've got? that what you're whole argument is based on?? wow. ok, moron.
@topdog90U and tell me where in there interview pac said "i do not want to fight morales".. go ahead, ill wait for it... thought so. you're whining about morales having to wait... thats just not true, PAC FOUGHT HIM JUST MONTHS AFTER THE FIRST FIGHT, THEN AGAIN MONTHS AFTER THE SECOND FIGHT, learn how to reason, and also learn how to count. i don't really think anyone cares about that post fight interview as much as you do LMAO. yep, treasure that moment.. pathetic.
see how he dropped his right and got socked,ats what would happen to mayweather all the time. myweathers known for his sloppy positions and dropping his right and left all the time.
You guys are just saying he takes steroids because all of you guys are trolls and haters. Say all you want but its not going to change the fact that Manny has won 8 titles and is the best pound for pound fighter out there today.
@qProdigyp man ignore the haters even Floyd went from 106 to 154? So is Floyd taking steroids aswell lol?? I think Pacman is all natural; hardwork and belief in God. Dnt let these narrow minded haters affect u :)
@PrinceAAAA Even the announcer said in his last fight Manny looks on the decline but this is the fight where all the steriod allegations came into play. All of a sudden during and after this fight Manny is IMMUNE to getting hurt whereas before this fight he could be hurt and knocked down but against bigger men he takes their best shit and then get's stronger and counters with flurries! You can't name ONE fight where Manny seemed hurt at welterweight. So lil Morales can hurt him but not Cotto?
@chiladin first of all, no one mentioned steroids and pacquiao in the same sentence until may weather sr. said it after the cot to fight. as a matter of fact, you wouldn't be able to find ANYONE accusing pacquiao of steroids before November 2009... second, this fight was only 3 months after the marquez fight, no steroid in the world will make you a better fighter in 3 months, and make you "immune to punishment", that's not how steroids work... smh.
@godvia athletes take steroids to become bigger, faster, stronger, and recuperate quicker... taking steroids won't improve your LEFT hook or develop your RIGHT hook, OR your footwork for that matter... it won't help you follow a game plan, and it won't make you smarter in the ring. and more importantly, steroids will NOT improve your chin. steroids will do nothing for your SKILLS. And being that Pacquiao has already agreed to FULL OLYMPIC STYLE (RANDOM) BLOOD TESTING, this argument is moot.
@wawabootypop There seems to be some grossed miscommunication between us, because nothing you wrote even remotely pertains to Manny Pacquiao .."Skills"..Lol that tickled my sides.
I believe Pacquiao took roids since he hooked up with Roach... That's why he was able to gain so much muscle in the early 2000 as he climb up in weight. If JT was caught & Roach admitting to giving it to him. What does that make you think about Pacquiao. 5 soccer players from the national team tested + for dopping on RBT. Their excuse was some meat they ate. Fuck that, they got caught & should be kicked out. In soccer they got RBT boxing needs it as well. Pac needs to take the test w/out excuses
@joseminano then why didnt Floy show up for his court date last week with Manny in Vagas, Mannys suing Floy for the whole blood test that he's saying about Manny . The Whole blood test was Floys way of ducking Manny and when Manny agree to the blood test to fight floy, floy still don't want to fight. Now Floy wants 100 million to fight Manny, that means Manny don't get pay. Wow its just another way way to duck Manny againg.
@zakkrick pacquiao hasn't yet agreed to the tests... Pacquiao & his team has been lying to you & everybody else. Pacquiao says he was been accused of drug use but in the interview with Mayweather Sr. Where he says its his opinion. He starts with "its my opinion" also there's an article where pacquiao is accusing mayweather of drug use & that comment pacquiao did is gonna be brought to court. Watch video "pacquiao accuses mayweather of steroids use" on YouTube
who the fuck is david diaz? another bum on manny pacquiao's career lol whos pacquiao gonna fight next the dead body of bruce lee an old muhammad ali,old roy jone the loser of ortiz vs mayweather lol (im just makin my opinion that diaz is a bum)
@1SugarRayRobinson1 of course , fijate bien , esta pelea como se ve manny se ve cansado apenas pudo contra un boxeador de pocos recursos como david diaz se vio cansado manny le afecto subir de peso , y que casualidad que cuando pelea con oscar se ve diferente caso invencible y se ve en sus peleas recientes , lo que da como conclusion que tomo algo para su rendimiento
In my opinion (although Pacquiao handles himself sufficiently at welterweight), I think he is most effective at lightweight, and light-welterweight. That's just my opinion. But, his most impressive performances, to me, were at these weight divisions (though he moved past them very quickly). I kinda' wish he stuck around light-welter to fight quality opponents, and bring more spectacular, memorable, dominant performances to the world. Yet, he has quite well, thus far.
@joseminano A very clever response. I hate it when children like you comment on these videos...Its so embarrassing, you should really learn something on the sport of boxing before making stupid fucking comments. You have no evidence for that statement, its just a stupid comment from a fucking simpleton. And 1 dimensional? hahahaha
@itchygonads still 1 dimensional fighter... he's no boxer... he's a brawler... this is the fight right after JMM...6 months later & all of a sudden he becomes a complete boxer... sounds like BS to me... stupid pactards like you is an embarrassment to the sport... pacquiao was throwing 100 plus punches a round but wasn't doin it against Marquez... that's your proof of PED's usage...
@joseminano No he isnt you fucking idiot haha, watch his fight against cotto, De la hoya and Margarito, you have no idea what you are talking about you idiot.
hahahahah your a fucking idiot :L :L haha steriods do not increase skill, speed or accuracy you idiot. You do not know what you are talking about you embarrassing idiot.
That doesnt prove anything :L im not a "Pactard" i just realise that he is a great fighter. You know absolutely nothing about this sport :L stupid prick, learn first k?
@itchygonads tranny pacroid... has no skills... the only thing he has proven was increased stamina... he still the same 1 dimensional fighter... stupid idiots pactards like you think other wise... Oscar de la hoya was passed him prime plus fought at a catchweight... cotto was at a catchweight & he was mentally damaged by margarito...
@joseminano No he isnt :L fucking idiot, he has large amounts of skill and is, without question the best p4p fighter..idiot :L you simply know NOTHING about boxing, i suggest you watch football or golf or something as you know jack shit about this sport.
Also he was not mentally damaged, he did not have brain damage you cretin. Learn what you are talking about, he is the best fighter going at this time. You know nothing. Learn what roids do too dip shit.
@itchygonads stop saying he has skills, just watch the Marquez fight again & watch the fights he has had afterwards. he still lunges forward dropping his right & leaving himself wide open for a counter. the fighters he's fought are not capable of doin that but Marquez & Mayweather. I really don't have to see the fight between may & pac cause I'll see an ass whoopin put on pac. another thing I've seen in pac is increased stamina, throwing 100 plus punches a round for 12 rounds is not natural
@joseminano ah i see so you cum over mayweather? its all much clearer now.
aw yea his fight ages ago against Marquez? meanwhile floyd avoids pacman and fights Marquez at lightweight being much bigger than marquez? what a man. Look at him getting beat by De la hoya and castille in their first fight. The man has two losses regardless of what is said. Pacman will kill him, and really? thats odd Juan Diaz throws alot as do many others. LEARN ABOUT BOXING IDIOT.
I think Pacquiao gave you pink eye surprise when his semen went all over your eyes cause you can't see a fucken thing. Yes Diaz threw a lot of punches, what happened to him in the later rounds? He got fatigued & lost. Pacquiao still opens himself the same way he did when he fought Marquez, check it out. He still drops his right when he throws his left as he lunges foward, leaving himself wide open for a counter. He has a very fast, strong disorganized attack that a tactician can counter, u moron
Thats why he avoids boxers. He fought David Diaz at 135lbs, Diaz was the weakest champion of that division. A paper champion. While Marquez fought the Legitimate champion in Casamayor. He imposed a catchweight on Morales for the rematch, Morales was clearly a 135lbs fighter. There's talk about all fighters goin through Random Blood testing soon... We'll see if Pacquiao all of a sudden retires, plus Pacquiao is talkin about goin back to 135lbs. So maybe is cause the USADA testing
@itchygonads just check out the last fight Pacquiao had against Margarito... Look at the way he lunges in to punch, he completely drops his guard the same way he did against Marquez. The problem is he does it worse now than he did then. Pacquiao defense was a bit better against Marquez. watch the fight again & you'll see that Pacquiao gets wobbled by Marquez many times. If you wanna watch it in full detail as the video goes into slow motion when punching watch "the manny Pacquiao deception"
@joseminano I too thought he lost their second fight? i dont understand how that is relevant, also this fight is ancient, he has much better footwork, upper body movement and headmovement. much greater accuracy and timing. something that doesnt come with roids you cretin.
and yes we will haha as he certainly wont retire :L He is not on roids and would kill mayweather. The man is a bitch no-one has applied as much attack as pacman will. End of story.
@itchygonads why the fuck do you think he looks so much better... He's fighting slow, flat footed, or damaged fighters... His increase in stamina is due to PED's!!! He's gonna get knocked out by Mosley, with a left hook to the liver then a left hook to the head, he'll be dazed then a straight right!!! Pacquiao OUT!!!
@itchygonads why the fuck do you think he looks so much better... He's fighting slow, flat footed, or damaged fighters... His increase in stamina is due to PED's!!! He's gonna get knocked out by Mosley, with a left hook to the liver then a left hook to the head, he'll be dazed then a straight right!!! Pacquiao OUT!!!
@itchygonads@itchygonads why the fuck do you think he looks so much better... He's fighting slow, flat footed, or damaged fighters... His increase in stamina is due to PED's!!! He's gonna get knocked out by Mosley, with a left hook to the liver then a left hook to the head, he'll be dazed then a straight right!!! Pacquiao OUT!!!
@itchygonads while i agree with how he has improved, I do not think he can beat mayweather easily. I do wanna state that Mayweather had a chance to fight Margarito, but didn't, and I think it is b/c may knew he could lose against a fthis type of fighter: margarito would have gone through all of may's punches and would have connected anywhere on may's body. THis is why he avoided margarito. And pac beat margarito. But pac beating may, well, i would certainly like that
@fsaari1985 why are you talking about margarito we all can see he's shit without the bricks in his gloves without the bricks he looks worse than carlos baldomir
@acetheking08 if you go off on his performances since mosley, then yes. But he is not worse than baldormir, he actually has more technique, and if you cant see this then...
@acetheking08 maybe, i would give him a 30% chance. I think that this type of fighter, margarito, is the type that can potentially beat may b/c of the relentless pressure and may doesn't have much pop at welterweight. Remember, when Floyd opted out of fighting margarito, he would get very annoyed if anyone in his posy ever mentioned his name
@fsaari1985 i just think he was always too slow he never really fought a fast fighter before pac and we saw how that turned out pac danced all around him may would have a least won the first six rounds like paul williams did when he beat him the only fighter i think may should have fought in the past is cotto at 147
Take the test Manny up until the day of, not urine but blood. If Floyd has another excuse then we know the real reason for him not fighting, but if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If you destroy Floyd and proven you are clean. You will surpass every fighter in history as "The Greatest" If Floyd truly believes gear is involved, he deserves a fair playing field since this is the "grande finale" in Boxing !@! Make it happen. It is up to Manny
Well respected boxers Andre Berto, Paulie Malignaggi, Nate Campbell, Kermit Cintron, and Ricky Hatton have all expressed their beliefs on Pacquiao and PED's. Whether you like these guys or not, they are far, far more qualified to opine and believable than any fan who chimes in.
@thegratefulrasta ive read up on PED's being accused on manny pacquiao
the only one who stood out was by floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao accepted
the test like it was no problem, floyd mayweather then retired, some people say he's scared, i dont blame him, pacman is in his prime and floyd mayweather is protecting his zero but no manny pacquiao would never use PED's his will nd belief from god does enough.
"Look at his body! I mean, usually when a smaller guy moves up into a division you see a lot of fat or something like Duran. He looks perfect." -Steward ... "Never once has he looked out of place in any weight class in which he's fought. The body just keeps getting better and better." -Lampley ... Both quotes in first two and a half minutes. They don't bode well with the sudden realizations people have made of late.
i want to see juan manuel marquez v hatton in december in london or manchester or vegas after hatton announced his return yesterday on sky.hatton by close decision.
keith kizer just have to get a daamn woody, man up and order whats what. if decisions are gonna come from either fighter, this fight wont push through cos egos, hatred and pride would get in the way.
they're both just looking out for theirs, i don't blame them. this isn't just money or pride, they're fighting for legacy. the 2 best fighters of our era (well, 2 of atleast) are well aware of the stance they have in boxing, which to many is a dying sport. they know they could possibly go down as the last great fighters and dont want to lose with out making sure they go out on their terms. i'm filipino, but not one minded, mayweather is a monster, and so is pacquiao. i just wish they'll fight
I think this is the first fight when Manny started using PED's. This was only 3 months after he got a gift decision against JMM and he looks new & improved in this fight.
@bosdurgen74 better check what you believe in. You have your brain use it rather than riding on gayweather false accusation. Gayweather is just scared of Pacman.
@maenthusiast... I use my brain, maybe you should try using yours... You said " Gayweather is just scared of Pacman" Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacroid are professional fighters, keyword being PROFESSIONAL, which means they fight for a living; no professional fighter is scared to fight anyone.. only a Pacroid fan (filipino) would be ignorant enough to say that... Floyd simply wants random blood and urine tests.. Pacroid is the one causing all the suspicion for not wanting the test to be random.
@bosdurgen74 ....Not wanting the test? This is misleading, Pacquiao want it but certainly not in the way gayweather want it. gayweather got a swelled head he thought he could just dictate anyone.
I never said Pacroid doesnt want to test; I said Pacroid doesnt want the tests to be random... which means Pacroid want to know when hes gonna be tested, Pacroid agreed to random urine tests, but when it comes to blood testing he only wants to be tested 3 times; one test when the fight is announced, another test 30 days before the fight , then the last test in the dressing room after the fight. THATS NOT RANDOM; Pacroid wants to know when the blood test will be because hes hiding something.
Oh ok well considering you were the one that replied to a comment that I left for someone else over a week ago calling me a "nonce" maybe your the one that should try growing up and when your done with pre school, try replying me again in another week or so... thats about as good of a "discussion" your gonna get from me.
or he could just be preventing the fact that if hes gonna be tested RIGHT in the gym lockers, imagine how significant the chances of infection will be.. just throwing out my two cents.
plus with his experience with the messed up blood testing ON THE NIGHT before the first morales fight.. who could blame the dude for not wanting it?
i say just let the commission decide. if its gonna be random, then let it be. just let the decision come from NSAC not from PBF
manny wouldnt have been tested on the night of the fight that was the whole purpose of the 14 dat cut off floyd offered; floyd suggesting RANDOM blood tests does not accuse manny of anything its simply making sure that both fighters arent using any PED's that cant be traced in urine tests, also Pres. Obama isnt an athlete, being tested for drugs isnt part of his job. floyd gave in plenty in negotiations, its not about culture its BOXING and manny is definately hiding something
@bosdurgen74 yeah it isnt obama's job to be checked, neither is it floyd's job to accuse or demand something thats out of the commissions hands.. bro, making this long story short, as long as pacquiao is NOT refusing to be tested randomly ORDERED by NSAC or any commission.. i dont think anyone has the right to call accuse him straight up as a juicer or PED user.. its just unfair. he has to hold up his ground as the 1 p4p.. i mean COME ON! but trust me, this fight will push through
Yeah it will push through eventually, but think about this,say Manny got beat by Clottey and later on its discovered that Clottey was using PED's that were only traceable throught RANDOM BLOOD TESTS, then i bet you would see the light, what floyd is asking is that him and manny both be tested for PED's that are not discovered in a NSAC urine test and im sorry but I dont see nothing wrong with that, im a floyd fan but if it was manny that had requested the random blood test i would back him 100%
@bosdurgen74 yeah think about this too, if manny agreed to a RANDOM blood test too and came out negative AND he got beat by clottey.. everyones gonna be like OH SHIT WE KNEW IT! i mean thats just not fair too, cos like no ones gonna give props to clottey and everyones just gonna doubt manny whether or not he did use PED's from his previous fights.. i just cant swallow the fact that WHY now and WHY manny? just cos he`s wrecking people he isnt supposed to?
very silly Peds/steroids are excreted in urine, every by product of metabolism comes out in the body, if it isn't it will poison your body.
that's the main reason why any boxing commissions/ NBA/ football/ baseball dont buy the allegations,
and its 2010 already more advance son, they caught alex rodriguez, bond using it because they test positive no matter how long they have used it long ago, they have positive metabolite product of peds in URINE.. gets?
@oOodieseloOo, It's because May is the one to speak on it, and expose it, listen to the announcers on this fight. You can tell that what they are saying raises questions , on how pac did a 360 from his fight with marquez, it just don't add up 3 months later. a guy much quicker and stronger moving up in weight with no fat. Name one boxer that did that? None and there are many much better then Pac, you don't go from a all out war with Marquez to knocking out bigger guys with ease. don't add up.
"Peak performances without doping are a fairytale, my friend." angel heredia said in an interview.
sad but true pacquiao fans...
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"There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don't excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. ." said angel heredia in an interview
jampop77 3 months ago 13
His only requirement is do it right after the fight & the weeks leading to the fight but not the day before the fight like the ones with Morales he lost that fight when he agreed to that then I think Morales was fine to do it after the fight then the next 2 meetings Morales lost to that ( It's small difference). If Mayweather demands Pacman can demand too! I guess that's just fair.
BillGatesNeighbor 4 months ago
At about 6:27 Steward makes a crucial comment where he observes that normally (he has been watching pac for a long time) Pacroid would throw punches, rest, move around before coming back but here he seems to be punching non-stop...in fact steward doubts he can keep it up. Pac's previous fight was only a few months before where Steward was the commentator for HBO as well. This points to a rare, sudden, unexplained increase in Pac's stamina...also this was Ariza's 1st fight with Pac...hmmm
jampop77 4 months ago 15
@jampop77 what ever .... XD
ZpOLIariumZ42 2 months ago
@jampop77 Have you seen manny's body during the morales 3 fight? The barrera 2 fight and the marquez 3 fight?! Looks the same by fight night man.
DreamsofanAbsolution 6 days ago
funny everyone saying that pacman beat the weakest champ in 135.. but at that time, the lineal champ was Juan Diaz.. lol.. you think Juan Diaz would be standing after 9 Rounds?
wadexplorer 4 months ago
Diaz is probably the worst fighter he could've picked at that weight divison..
mirellale 4 months ago
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what have they agreed to...........because last time I checked Bob Arum said WADA were going to test Manny Pacquiao in the Philippines....BUT GUESS WHAT
WADA are NOT a testing agency.
It's so fucking simple, if your clean, take the random unlimted blood and urine test handled by the USADA. They can handle manny even in the Philippines.....Bob arum talking about WADA is a SMOKESCREEN.
jampop77 4 months ago
pacquiao is the catchweight king,and a paper champ in 154lb, BIGGEST fraud alive!
Look at all of these superstar athletes denying PED use witha
straight face. Bonds, A-Rod, Clemens, Mosely, Lance Armstrong,
Marion Jones, Palmeiro, Manny Ramirez and the list goes on.
So Pacquiao denies PED and we should be satisfied with his word? BULLSHIT.
Why doesnt he take the test? ANYONE moving up in weight and getting stronger and faster than ever(Diaz fight) and 1% body fat today are suspects
jampop77 4 months ago 32
@jampop77 dumbass floydiot pacquiao agreed to the test over and over but mayweather keeps running away like a little bitch ass girl
07boxingfan 3 months ago
@jampop77 if you can give me a picture or video showing that pacquiao is using steroid or something i will gonna believe you son
jayr122001 2 months ago
@jampop77 lol u mad?
Tophisthebest226 1 month ago
@jampop77
All of those ppl's changes happened past 30. Manny did his body change at early 20's. He was finishing developing his body form from teenager to man, natural growth.
DreamsofanAbsolution 6 days ago
haters gonna hate...
steroid claim is fake
Floyd stop running, Pacquiao's the TEST you need to take
haters gonna hate...
BLaCkKsHeEp 4 months ago
manny said he can take the test but not closer to the fight and he will take the test after the fight, in orther that it will never take affect to his training and to his fight.. is that not enought? mayweather is a ducking fighter, is he thinks that he cant win to his opponent, he refuses the fight... he refuse margarito too.. if he want to fight manny he needs to do something to be able to set the fight, but he didnt do something, he says the same thing over and over again "HE SHOULD TAKE TEST
adrianmark4185 4 months ago
@adrianmark4185
not only that, but when team pacquiao agreed, the mayweahter's came out and said "ok but Pacquiao is not allowed to train in the Philippines." lol
BLaCkKsHeEp 4 months ago
HGH
ciokoye 4 months ago 18
@ciokoye
its actually just Whey Protein to add muscle and mass (-_-)
BLaCkKsHeEp 4 months ago
STEROIDS VS PAPER CHAMP
bgeezy305 4 months ago
Floyd should take the test.... the Manny Pacquiao test.
austriadorkus 4 months ago
EPO??? But of course. The guys said they began to see some signs of a decline. He gains weight, gets faster, gets stronger, and has unlimited stamina? He is looking so crazy in training, that the press is saying that he's faster and stronger than ever before. Mayweather's lost his legs (according to Freddie Roach) when he was the same age as Manny is now. Manny's not losing, he's gaining. Ok, take those tests and do the same thing he's been doing, then I'll respect his greatness.
SnakeLadyENY420 4 months ago
people that have been in the gyms for over 21 years can spot a person juicing a mile away and so can many .they all agree that Manny is taking PED's.The striations in his arms, neck and face is a dead give away.The fight with Cotto also confirmed the OPINION that Manny Pacquiao is taking EPO.
jampop77 5 months ago
If my memory serves me correctly..i believe there was a round in this fight where manny pacquiao throws non-stop punches ....straight for an entire round...no recovery time needed whatsoever. Just listen to emmanuel and lampley throughout this fight...their comments let us all know that something is not right here...not right at all..
ondareels112 5 months ago
Floyd is not much of a coward & has the skills to beat manny and he knows it, but when he senses danger or a threat he just talks what he can do but doesn't do it.. his cowardliness is getting the best of his legacy when he looks back.
JerryBalcazar88 5 months ago
@HurtadoJames finally, someone with a brain
norma1250 5 months ago
Roberto Duran dropped Iran Barkley at 160 pounds, James Toney tko'd Barkley in the 10th but never dropped him, and hit him with many clean punches. Duran started his career at 119, that's a 41 pound difference, and he kept his power through all those divisions, what Manny is doing now has been done before.
HurtadoJames 5 months ago
@HurtadoJames ok umm Roberto Duran knocked down iran Barkley ended in SD. which any fighter can get knocked down, but you dont talk about how after that all his wins were against lower caliber fighters. When it came to higher caliber fighters he lost. Unlike manny who gets knocked Out twice at lower weights ballons in weight now he can ko people lol. Oh dont bring up James Toney he was caught on steriods and he had the same trainer as who....Manny Pacquiao
MegaBigthumbs 5 months ago
@MegaBigthumbs Manny was knocked out in the lower weights because of poor nutrition and bad trainers. Also, he was only 17 year in his first knock out, and 20 in the second one. This was before when he couldn't even afford a decent water bottle, let alone proper nutrition. He was still growing back then. He was only 4 foot 11 inches.
jokerarayko 5 months ago
At about 6:27 Steward makes a crucial comment where he observes that normally (he has been watching pac for a long time) Pacroid would throw punches, rest, move around before coming back but here he seems to be punching non-stop...in fact steward doubts he can keep it up. Pac's previous fight was only a few months before where Steward was the commentator for HBO as well. This points to a rare, sudden, unexplained increase in Pac's stamina...also this was Ariza's 1st fight with Pac...hmmm
masterblaster102 5 months ago
@masterblaster102 “A blend of whey, soy and milk proteins, I blend everything. He started taking it right before the Diaz fight. What I give Manny runs the gamut through dairy, milk, meat, fish and poultry proteins, it runs the gamut to every different source of protein that we can. This didn’t happen overnight. It took a long time. Manny didn’t know anything about recovery and the importance of proper nutrition.” Ariza told the Boxinginsider.(yeah, now tell me a cowboys story)
jampop77 5 months ago
@masterblaster102 can you give me an EPO that increases stamina?
patojag 5 months ago
@patojag: EPO does help with stamina...look it up. You check articles from Victor Conte (the guy who "helped" Shane Mosley)
masterblaster102 5 months ago
@masterblaster102 Yeah. Researched about it the other day. Well, as far as I know, Pac has agreed to unlimited and random urine testing long before he fully agreed to Floyd's testing demands. And it has been clearly stated, that urine is more than enough. Blood samples are actually futile if urine is already available.
However, as Conte said. Any fighter can take EPO way before training camp. It will be undetectable when tested "randomly" during training.
patojag 5 months ago
@patojag; Pac has not agreed to the testing...there are lots of videos on youtube that prove that. If OSDT is as ineffective as you say then Pac should have no problem afterall Ortiz, Mosley and now Khan have no problems with it
masterblaster102 5 months ago
@masterblaster102 That means that Floyd's OSDT testing demands is smoke and mirrors. I am not really saying that Pac is not roids. Well he could roiding while off from training. But the way I understand the articles, anyone can do it... Floyd is as guilty or innocent as Pac. As far as I know, when a fighter is smart and determined enough, when he takes EPO, he won't get caught. OSDT or not.
patojag 5 months ago
At about 6:27 Steward makes a crucial comment where he observes that normally (he has been watching pac for a long time) Pacroid would throw punches, rest, move around before coming back but here he seems to be punching non-stop...in fact steward doubts he can keep it up. Pac's previous fight was only a few months before where Steward was the commentator for HBO as well. This points to a rare, sudden, unexplained increase in Pac's stamina...also this was Ariza's 1st fight with Pac...hmmm
masterblaster102 5 months ago
diaz should have made him take the test
jampop77 6 months ago
@jampop77 guess he wasn't a pussy lol
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@jampop77 i guess he was too naive
jampop77 6 months ago
damn yo why did they skip the introduction heh???
ppqwertyu 6 months ago
@MisterAKL no creo he
mickeyasn 7 months ago
Mexican Destroyer!!!
MiisterAKL 7 months ago
People believe manny is fast he's never really looked fast in a fight unless is a known slow fighter.
topdog90U 7 months ago
@topdog90U Manny is not fast, he is super fast =P
MisterToojLis 7 months ago
That comment right there made the boxing world question Manny not being on ROIDS. He gain all this weight in two years and it's all muscle. Thats not that common because in sports to gain weight you have to in take calories and to take in calories you gain weight which comes on as fat. He put all that weight on as muscle.
topdog90U 7 months ago
@topdog90U he's the same size, he just doesn't cut weight anymore. clearly everyone knows this by now... it's been widely documented that his fighting weight has been in the 140's since his days as a super-featherweight.. it's obvious that cutting 16lbs to make weight took a toll on his ability to take shots... come on man, do a lil research and you will find answers, instead of looking to "steroids" right away.. of all people you believe what mayweather sr says? SMH
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@wawabootypop Come on now stop making shit up out of your ass. He wasn't struggling to make weight he drained morales ass when he finally decided to fight him. He also got his way and fighting with small gloves. The thing that make me think he does roids is he wasn't dominating the lower weight classes and moved up and is this dominate fighter. You get stronger with more weight but hitting bigger fighters also hurt you as well.
topdog90U 6 months ago
@topdog90U THANK YOU!!!
godvia 6 months ago in playlist pac vs diaz
@topdog90U making shit up? ok, clearly you don't know shit about boxing. he was draining his ass making weight, that is a fact. i know you're new to boxing just based on what you say. do some research. my man would gain 15+lbs from weigh in to fight night, how you gonna say he didn't drain himself? another thing about pac not dominating in the lower divisions - you're making a fool out of yourself man, he had a Hall of Fame career long before he made the jump to the higher weights. idiot.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@topdog90U btw, you're the first person to say that manny pacquiao wasn't dominating opponents in the lower weight classes (LMAO and SMH) you're probably the only person to ever say that. again, save yourself the embarrassment and do some research. but for the sake of your education, here are just some of packman's victims: ledwaba - dominated; lucero - dominated; barrera - dominated; morales - dominated twice; velazquez - dominated; solis - dominated.
your ignorance just got exposed.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@wawabootypop Because he had 3 lose's and was in battles he wasn't knocking everybody out like he is now stupid. Stop looking for something to right about you don't know what your talking about. He lost his fight against Marquez just one the first one could've went either way but he was out box both fights. He lose to Morales and when Morales wanted a rematch he waited until Morales moved up and drain him at feather weight when Morales couldn't make the wait. but Manny was to big.
topdog90U 6 months ago
@topdog90U whaaaaaaat?? i don't think you said one right thing in your comment.. first of all pac had 35 KOs in the "lower weights"... only 3 KOs since he moved up from LW, 2 of which were TKOs.. and the last time i checked he went 12 rounds in his last 4 fights... so stop pretending like he's knocking bigger people out cold. yes he dominated the bigger fighters, but he couldn't knock out Clottey, Margarito, or Mosley. so just... stop.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@topdog90U second, pac was the one who wanted the rematch with Morales, he lost remember? and how you gonna say he made him wait? REALLY? their first fight was in Mar '05, their second was in Jan '06... all said, they fought a trilogy less than 2 yrs. that's 3 fights in 20 months. by comparison his trilogy with barrera took 4yrs and 8 months to complete.
as for the weight, did you forget they were fighting for the WBC super-featherweight title? and you want them to fight at 130? SMH
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@wawabootypop No he did not go watch the fight they ask him after the fight if he wanted a rematch and he couldn't answer the question. He just made excuses about his gloves being to big and now he always fight with small gloves.
topdog90U 6 months ago
@topdog90U um ok, obviously they both wanted to fight each other if the fought a trilogy in 20 months, some "elite" fighters don't even fight three fights in three years... and it does it really matter? pac DESTROYED morales twice after Morales outpointed him... again, its a moot point.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@wawabootypop Your a fucking idiot. I'm not talking about the trilogy yeah he won why not go at it again. Go to the post fight interviewafter Manny lost the first time he didn't want to fight himwhen they ask him if he want to fight again. After the first fight Morales was ready to give Manny a rematch right away he needed a fight Manny didn't want to fight yet, so Morales fought someone else lose and then Manny wanted him. Do your research before you challenge me talking out of your ass.
topdog90U 6 months ago
@topdog90U first of all you're the fucking troll who knows shit about boxing... I've already schooled your ignorant ass... first of all, how you gonna talk about manny didn't wanna fight morales when he fought him 2x more, the rematch being just months after the first fight?? smh, do your research,... second, who the hell cares what pac said right after the fight?? thats all you've got? that what you're whole argument is based on?? wow. ok, moron.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@topdog90U and tell me where in there interview pac said "i do not want to fight morales".. go ahead, ill wait for it... thought so. you're whining about morales having to wait... thats just not true, PAC FOUGHT HIM JUST MONTHS AFTER THE FIRST FIGHT, THEN AGAIN MONTHS AFTER THE SECOND FIGHT, learn how to reason, and also learn how to count. i don't really think anyone cares about that post fight interview as much as you do LMAO. yep, treasure that moment.. pathetic.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
why do they look like midgets? lol i know they arent but damn that guys like 6.5 or something lol
kanyeezys 7 months ago
great combinations mayweather cannot handle manny
allen83418 7 months ago
@allen83418 your opinion when I watch manny fight I can't see how Manny could last in the ring with Money but just my opinion.
topdog90U 7 months ago
see how he dropped his right and got socked,ats what would happen to mayweather all the time. myweathers known for his sloppy positions and dropping his right and left all the time.
diskjockee 7 months ago
You guys are just saying he takes steroids because all of you guys are trolls and haters. Say all you want but its not going to change the fact that Manny has won 8 titles and is the best pound for pound fighter out there today.
qProdigyp 7 months ago
@qProdigyp man ignore the haters even Floyd went from 106 to 154? So is Floyd taking steroids aswell lol?? I think Pacman is all natural; hardwork and belief in God. Dnt let these narrow minded haters affect u :)
PrinceAAAA 7 months ago
@PrinceAAAA lol in roids you trust amen!
youz1uglybish 7 months ago
@PrinceAAAA Even the announcer said in his last fight Manny looks on the decline but this is the fight where all the steriod allegations came into play. All of a sudden during and after this fight Manny is IMMUNE to getting hurt whereas before this fight he could be hurt and knocked down but against bigger men he takes their best shit and then get's stronger and counters with flurries! You can't name ONE fight where Manny seemed hurt at welterweight. So lil Morales can hurt him but not Cotto?
chiladin 6 months ago
@chiladin first of all, no one mentioned steroids and pacquiao in the same sentence until may weather sr. said it after the cot to fight. as a matter of fact, you wouldn't be able to find ANYONE accusing pacquiao of steroids before November 2009... second, this fight was only 3 months after the marquez fight, no steroid in the world will make you a better fighter in 3 months, and make you "immune to punishment", that's not how steroids work... smh.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@wawabootypop Really??...Why do you think athletes use steroids in the first place...To recuperate quickly
godvia 6 months ago in playlist Pac vs Diaz
@godvia athletes take steroids to become bigger, faster, stronger, and recuperate quicker... taking steroids won't improve your LEFT hook or develop your RIGHT hook, OR your footwork for that matter... it won't help you follow a game plan, and it won't make you smarter in the ring. and more importantly, steroids will NOT improve your chin. steroids will do nothing for your SKILLS. And being that Pacquiao has already agreed to FULL OLYMPIC STYLE (RANDOM) BLOOD TESTING, this argument is moot.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
@wawabootypop There seems to be some grossed miscommunication between us, because nothing you wrote even remotely pertains to Manny Pacquiao .."Skills"..Lol that tickled my sides.
godvia 6 months ago
@godvia oooh my fault then, i didn't realize that doses of reality tickle your sides... that explains a lot actually.
wawabootypop 6 months ago
I believe Pacquiao took roids since he hooked up with Roach... That's why he was able to gain so much muscle in the early 2000 as he climb up in weight. If JT was caught & Roach admitting to giving it to him. What does that make you think about Pacquiao. 5 soccer players from the national team tested + for dopping on RBT. Their excuse was some meat they ate. Fuck that, they got caught & should be kicked out. In soccer they got RBT boxing needs it as well. Pac needs to take the test w/out excuses
joseminano 8 months ago
@joseminano then why didnt Floy show up for his court date last week with Manny in Vagas, Mannys suing Floy for the whole blood test that he's saying about Manny . The Whole blood test was Floys way of ducking Manny and when Manny agree to the blood test to fight floy, floy still don't want to fight. Now Floy wants 100 million to fight Manny, that means Manny don't get pay. Wow its just another way way to duck Manny againg.
zakkrick 8 months ago
@zakkrick pacquiao hasn't yet agreed to the tests... Pacquiao & his team has been lying to you & everybody else. Pacquiao says he was been accused of drug use but in the interview with Mayweather Sr. Where he says its his opinion. He starts with "its my opinion" also there's an article where pacquiao is accusing mayweather of drug use & that comment pacquiao did is gonna be brought to court. Watch video "pacquiao accuses mayweather of steroids use" on YouTube
joseminano 8 months ago
who the fuck is david diaz? another bum on manny pacquiao's career lol whos pacquiao gonna fight next the dead body of bruce lee an old muhammad ali,old roy jone the loser of ortiz vs mayweather lol (im just makin my opinion that diaz is a bum)
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
pacquiao took steriod's before this fight right?
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
@1SugarRayRobinson1 of course , fijate bien , esta pelea como se ve manny se ve cansado apenas pudo contra un boxeador de pocos recursos como david diaz se vio cansado manny le afecto subir de peso , y que casualidad que cuando pelea con oscar se ve diferente caso invencible y se ve en sus peleas recientes , lo que da como conclusion que tomo algo para su rendimiento
eltrovador1 8 months ago
@eltrovador1 WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING BRO I DON'T UNDERSTAND MEXICANO
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
In my opinion (although Pacquiao handles himself sufficiently at welterweight), I think he is most effective at lightweight, and light-welterweight. That's just my opinion. But, his most impressive performances, to me, were at these weight divisions (though he moved past them very quickly). I kinda' wish he stuck around light-welter to fight quality opponents, and bring more spectacular, memorable, dominant performances to the world. Yet, he has quite well, thus far.
soulinthewall77 8 months ago
man diaz looks so big here compared to his fight with soto
BrandPrivateAccount 9 months ago
one sided fight....
keitrie 9 months ago
I didnt know John Kerry reffed boxing.
Bojazzki 10 months ago
Some people are just victimized by the media.
RNG321 10 months ago
This pacquiao's first fight using PED's... he's still the same lame 1 dimensional fighter he has ever been
joseminano 10 months ago
@joseminano you are a fucking idiot.
itchygonads 10 months ago
@itchygonads does pacquiao give a reach around while he's fucking you in the ass?
joseminano 10 months ago
@joseminano A very clever response. I hate it when children like you comment on these videos...Its so embarrassing, you should really learn something on the sport of boxing before making stupid fucking comments. You have no evidence for that statement, its just a stupid comment from a fucking simpleton. And 1 dimensional? hahahaha
itchygonads 10 months ago
@itchygonads still 1 dimensional fighter... he's no boxer... he's a brawler... this is the fight right after JMM...6 months later & all of a sudden he becomes a complete boxer... sounds like BS to me... stupid pactards like you is an embarrassment to the sport... pacquiao was throwing 100 plus punches a round but wasn't doin it against Marquez... that's your proof of PED's usage...
joseminano 10 months ago
@joseminano No he isnt you fucking idiot haha, watch his fight against cotto, De la hoya and Margarito, you have no idea what you are talking about you idiot.
hahahahah your a fucking idiot :L :L haha steriods do not increase skill, speed or accuracy you idiot. You do not know what you are talking about you embarrassing idiot.
That doesnt prove anything :L im not a "Pactard" i just realise that he is a great fighter. You know absolutely nothing about this sport :L stupid prick, learn first k?
itchygonads 10 months ago
@itchygonads tranny pacroid... has no skills... the only thing he has proven was increased stamina... he still the same 1 dimensional fighter... stupid idiots pactards like you think other wise... Oscar de la hoya was passed him prime plus fought at a catchweight... cotto was at a catchweight & he was mentally damaged by margarito...
joseminano 10 months ago
@joseminano No he isnt :L fucking idiot, he has large amounts of skill and is, without question the best p4p fighter..idiot :L you simply know NOTHING about boxing, i suggest you watch football or golf or something as you know jack shit about this sport.
Also he was not mentally damaged, he did not have brain damage you cretin. Learn what you are talking about, he is the best fighter going at this time. You know nothing. Learn what roids do too dip shit.
itchygonads 10 months ago
@itchygonads stop saying he has skills, just watch the Marquez fight again & watch the fights he has had afterwards. he still lunges forward dropping his right & leaving himself wide open for a counter. the fighters he's fought are not capable of doin that but Marquez & Mayweather. I really don't have to see the fight between may & pac cause I'll see an ass whoopin put on pac. another thing I've seen in pac is increased stamina, throwing 100 plus punches a round for 12 rounds is not natural
joseminano 10 months ago
@joseminano ah i see so you cum over mayweather? its all much clearer now.
aw yea his fight ages ago against Marquez? meanwhile floyd avoids pacman and fights Marquez at lightweight being much bigger than marquez? what a man. Look at him getting beat by De la hoya and castille in their first fight. The man has two losses regardless of what is said. Pacman will kill him, and really? thats odd Juan Diaz throws alot as do many others. LEARN ABOUT BOXING IDIOT.
itchygonads 10 months ago
I think Pacquiao gave you pink eye surprise when his semen went all over your eyes cause you can't see a fucken thing. Yes Diaz threw a lot of punches, what happened to him in the later rounds? He got fatigued & lost. Pacquiao still opens himself the same way he did when he fought Marquez, check it out. He still drops his right when he throws his left as he lunges foward, leaving himself wide open for a counter. He has a very fast, strong disorganized attack that a tactician can counter, u moron
joseminano 10 months ago
Thats why he avoids boxers. He fought David Diaz at 135lbs, Diaz was the weakest champion of that division. A paper champion. While Marquez fought the Legitimate champion in Casamayor. He imposed a catchweight on Morales for the rematch, Morales was clearly a 135lbs fighter. There's talk about all fighters goin through Random Blood testing soon... We'll see if Pacquiao all of a sudden retires, plus Pacquiao is talkin about goin back to 135lbs. So maybe is cause the USADA testing
joseminano 10 months ago
@itchygonads just check out the last fight Pacquiao had against Margarito... Look at the way he lunges in to punch, he completely drops his guard the same way he did against Marquez. The problem is he does it worse now than he did then. Pacquiao defense was a bit better against Marquez. watch the fight again & you'll see that Pacquiao gets wobbled by Marquez many times. If you wanna watch it in full detail as the video goes into slow motion when punching watch "the manny Pacquiao deception"
joseminano 10 months ago
@joseminano I too thought he lost their second fight? i dont understand how that is relevant, also this fight is ancient, he has much better footwork, upper body movement and headmovement. much greater accuracy and timing. something that doesnt come with roids you cretin.
and yes we will haha as he certainly wont retire :L He is not on roids and would kill mayweather. The man is a bitch no-one has applied as much attack as pacman will. End of story.
itchygonads 10 months ago
@itchygonads why the fuck do you think he looks so much better... He's fighting slow, flat footed, or damaged fighters... His increase in stamina is due to PED's!!! He's gonna get knocked out by Mosley, with a left hook to the liver then a left hook to the head, he'll be dazed then a straight right!!! Pacquiao OUT!!!
joseminano 10 months ago
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@itchygonads why the fuck do you think he looks so much better... He's fighting slow, flat footed, or damaged fighters... His increase in stamina is due to PED's!!! He's gonna get knocked out by Mosley, with a left hook to the liver then a left hook to the head, he'll be dazed then a straight right!!! Pacquiao OUT!!!
joseminano 10 months ago
@joseminano LOL we'll see about that this saturday.. if mosley win is not gonna be by ko
filosofodemierda 10 months ago
@filosofodemierda or TKO
joseminano 10 months ago
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@itchygonads @itchygonads why the fuck do you think he looks so much better... He's fighting slow, flat footed, or damaged fighters... His increase in stamina is due to PED's!!! He's gonna get knocked out by Mosley, with a left hook to the liver then a left hook to the head, he'll be dazed then a straight right!!! Pacquiao OUT!!!
joseminano 10 months ago
@itchygonads while i agree with how he has improved, I do not think he can beat mayweather easily. I do wanna state that Mayweather had a chance to fight Margarito, but didn't, and I think it is b/c may knew he could lose against a fthis type of fighter: margarito would have gone through all of may's punches and would have connected anywhere on may's body. THis is why he avoided margarito. And pac beat margarito. But pac beating may, well, i would certainly like that
fsaari1985 10 months ago
@fsaari1985 why are you talking about margarito we all can see he's shit without the bricks in his gloves without the bricks he looks worse than carlos baldomir
acetheking08 9 months ago
@acetheking08 if you go off on his performances since mosley, then yes. But he is not worse than baldormir, he actually has more technique, and if you cant see this then...
fsaari1985 9 months ago
@fsaari1985 so you actually think he could have beaten mayweather without the bricks?
acetheking08 9 months ago
@acetheking08 maybe, i would give him a 30% chance. I think that this type of fighter, margarito, is the type that can potentially beat may b/c of the relentless pressure and may doesn't have much pop at welterweight. Remember, when Floyd opted out of fighting margarito, he would get very annoyed if anyone in his posy ever mentioned his name
fsaari1985 9 months ago
@fsaari1985 i just think he was always too slow he never really fought a fast fighter before pac and we saw how that turned out pac danced all around him may would have a least won the first six rounds like paul williams did when he beat him the only fighter i think may should have fought in the past is cotto at 147
acetheking08 9 months ago
@acetheking08 agree
fsaari1985 9 months ago
@fsaari1985 Mayweather vs Margarito looks exactly like Mayweather vs Corrales. Easy fight.
ju88ff 8 months ago
@ju88ff that is a very plausible possibility too!
fsaari1985 8 months ago
@joseminano leave the pactard's alone looool
1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
The last combo was the famous Tyson combo!
strategery101 10 months ago
@strategery101 well freddy roach did partially train tyson at one point in time
LMLR187 10 months ago
@LMLR187 correction, freddie
LMLR187 10 months ago
didn't roach said after Pacquiao morales 3 that manny is a natural 140 lbs??? so Pacquiao was drained to fight at the lower weight classes..
archidexterous20 11 months ago
This is when Pacquiao became a much complete boxer.
OperationEndGame 11 months ago
it looks like pacquiao is having trouble dealing with southpaw!
or it is just me?
if you look at his fights on ortrodox opponents, he performs better
asanesana 1 year ago
it looks like pacquiao is having trouble dealing with southpaw
asanesana 1 year ago
@asanesana say what i dont think so man his fight in here was flawless look how relax manny is.
Naruto1ownsSasuke 1 year ago
Manny pacquiao is amazing!!! His workrate is superb i hope i can start boxing like him one day.
mrwaqy 1 year ago
@mrwaqy Do or do not. There is no try.
strategery101 10 months ago
you never see this kind of round from Mayweather...NEVER
kuhliglig 1 year ago
Take the test Manny up until the day of, not urine but blood. If Floyd has another excuse then we know the real reason for him not fighting, but if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If you destroy Floyd and proven you are clean. You will surpass every fighter in history as "The Greatest" If Floyd truly believes gear is involved, he deserves a fair playing field since this is the "grande finale" in Boxing !@! Make it happen. It is up to Manny
LUKE82603 1 year ago 2
This fight is no more challenging for Pacquiao then a sparring session.
vamoalla9 1 year ago
Manny Pacquiao is the asian version of Roy Jones jr! lol! :)
Transformers217 1 year ago
pacquiao's clean and god continues to bless him and whoop ass.
AliRidah619 1 year ago 2
Well respected boxers Andre Berto, Paulie Malignaggi, Nate Campbell, Kermit Cintron, and Ricky Hatton have all expressed their beliefs on Pacquiao and PED's. Whether you like these guys or not, they are far, far more qualified to opine and believable than any fan who chimes in.
thegratefulrasta 1 year ago
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@thegratefulrasta "innocent until proven guilty"
TheFlipzPride 1 year ago
@thegratefulrasta Except their making baseless accusations. And Manny agreed to take the tests. So he basically has nothing to hide.
So why doesn't Floyd want to fight him? That's the bigger question to me.
Transformers217 1 year ago
@thegratefulrasta ive read up on PED's being accused on manny pacquiao
the only one who stood out was by floyd mayweather and manny pacquiao accepted
the test like it was no problem, floyd mayweather then retired, some people say he's scared, i dont blame him, pacman is in his prime and floyd mayweather is protecting his zero but no manny pacquiao would never use PED's his will nd belief from god does enough.
Dannyssdd 1 year ago 2
"Look at his body! I mean, usually when a smaller guy moves up into a division you see a lot of fat or something like Duran. He looks perfect." -Steward ... "Never once has he looked out of place in any weight class in which he's fought. The body just keeps getting better and better." -Lampley ... Both quotes in first two and a half minutes. They don't bode well with the sudden realizations people have made of late.
thegratefulrasta 1 year ago
from diaz fight pacquiao have amazing footwork, howdidhegetthose pernel whitaker kind of movements? black magic?
amigoajayz 1 year ago
i want to see juan manuel marquez v hatton in december in london or manchester or vegas after hatton announced his return yesterday on sky.hatton by close decision.
jimpurdie 1 year ago
@jimpurdie Hatton would get destroyed by Marquez.
Transformers217 1 year ago
3.28 What the hell is Emmanuel talking about lol
RichCwm 1 year ago
lol Manny looks mataba.
0123kid 1 year ago
I salute david diaz, true gentleman and a clean fighter
0021388 1 year ago
diaz is slow as fuck with no power
valienteg58 2 years ago
pacquiao es un excelente peleador y deportista y no solo eso tambien es un gran ser humano humilde y caritativo con su pueblo y con todos
ThaPhiZhiTaAa 2 years ago
keith kizer just have to get a daamn woody, man up and order whats what. if decisions are gonna come from either fighter, this fight wont push through cos egos, hatred and pride would get in the way.
oOoDiESeLoOo 2 years ago
they're both just looking out for theirs, i don't blame them. this isn't just money or pride, they're fighting for legacy. the 2 best fighters of our era (well, 2 of atleast) are well aware of the stance they have in boxing, which to many is a dying sport. they know they could possibly go down as the last great fighters and dont want to lose with out making sure they go out on their terms. i'm filipino, but not one minded, mayweather is a monster, and so is pacquiao. i just wish they'll fight
ChildFlip 2 years ago
there is no way pacquiao is on Peds ppl just need to stop hating
admjr4948 2 years ago
I think this is the first fight when Manny started using PED's. This was only 3 months after he got a gift decision against JMM and he looks new & improved in this fight.
mropal100 2 years ago
yep i believe your right because i think this fight was when he started working with alex ariza
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
you're kidding
mropal100 2 years ago
Dam you're right!
I'll have a video on my theory by tomorrow. This shit is nuts!
mropal100 2 years ago
hell yeah, ill be looking forward to it... peace.
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
@bosdurgen74 better check what you believe in. You have your brain use it rather than riding on gayweather false accusation. Gayweather is just scared of Pacman.
maenthusiast 2 years ago
@maenthusiast... I use my brain, maybe you should try using yours... You said " Gayweather is just scared of Pacman" Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacroid are professional fighters, keyword being PROFESSIONAL, which means they fight for a living; no professional fighter is scared to fight anyone.. only a Pacroid fan (filipino) would be ignorant enough to say that... Floyd simply wants random blood and urine tests.. Pacroid is the one causing all the suspicion for not wanting the test to be random.
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
@bosdurgen74 ....Not wanting the test? This is misleading, Pacquiao want it but certainly not in the way gayweather want it. gayweather got a swelled head he thought he could just dictate anyone.
maenthusiast 2 years ago
I never said Pacroid doesnt want to test; I said Pacroid doesnt want the tests to be random... which means Pacroid want to know when hes gonna be tested, Pacroid agreed to random urine tests, but when it comes to blood testing he only wants to be tested 3 times; one test when the fight is announced, another test 30 days before the fight , then the last test in the dressing room after the fight. THATS NOT RANDOM; Pacroid wants to know when the blood test will be because hes hiding something.
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
pacroid?? your a nonce
casscraigmile 2 years ago
And that'll make you one of Pacroid's pactards!!!
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
grow up, how about have a discussion about this instead of slinging round stupid nicknames like your in a pre-school playground
casscraigmile 2 years ago
Oh ok well considering you were the one that replied to a comment that I left for someone else over a week ago calling me a "nonce" maybe your the one that should try growing up and when your done with pre school, try replying me again in another week or so... thats about as good of a "discussion" your gonna get from me.
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
or he could just be preventing the fact that if hes gonna be tested RIGHT in the gym lockers, imagine how significant the chances of infection will be.. just throwing out my two cents.
plus with his experience with the messed up blood testing ON THE NIGHT before the first morales fight.. who could blame the dude for not wanting it?
i say just let the commission decide. if its gonna be random, then let it be. just let the decision come from NSAC not from PBF
oOoDiESeLoOo 2 years ago
manny wouldnt have been tested on the night of the fight that was the whole purpose of the 14 dat cut off floyd offered; floyd suggesting RANDOM blood tests does not accuse manny of anything its simply making sure that both fighters arent using any PED's that cant be traced in urine tests, also Pres. Obama isnt an athlete, being tested for drugs isnt part of his job. floyd gave in plenty in negotiations, its not about culture its BOXING and manny is definately hiding something
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
@bosdurgen74 yeah it isnt obama's job to be checked, neither is it floyd's job to accuse or demand something thats out of the commissions hands.. bro, making this long story short, as long as pacquiao is NOT refusing to be tested randomly ORDERED by NSAC or any commission.. i dont think anyone has the right to call accuse him straight up as a juicer or PED user.. its just unfair. he has to hold up his ground as the 1 p4p.. i mean COME ON! but trust me, this fight will push through
oOoDiESeLoOo 2 years ago
Yeah it will push through eventually, but think about this,say Manny got beat by Clottey and later on its discovered that Clottey was using PED's that were only traceable throught RANDOM BLOOD TESTS, then i bet you would see the light, what floyd is asking is that him and manny both be tested for PED's that are not discovered in a NSAC urine test and im sorry but I dont see nothing wrong with that, im a floyd fan but if it was manny that had requested the random blood test i would back him 100%
bosdurgen74 2 years ago
@bosdurgen74 yeah think about this too, if manny agreed to a RANDOM blood test too and came out negative AND he got beat by clottey.. everyones gonna be like OH SHIT WE KNEW IT! i mean thats just not fair too, cos like no ones gonna give props to clottey and everyones just gonna doubt manny whether or not he did use PED's from his previous fights.. i just cant swallow the fact that WHY now and WHY manny? just cos he`s wrecking people he isnt supposed to?
oOoDiESeLoOo 2 years ago
very silly Peds/steroids are excreted in urine, every by product of metabolism comes out in the body, if it isn't it will poison your body.
that's the main reason why any boxing commissions/ NBA/ football/ baseball dont buy the allegations,
and its 2010 already more advance son, they caught alex rodriguez, bond using it because they test positive no matter how long they have used it long ago, they have positive metabolite product of peds in URINE.. gets?
aafafa12 2 years ago
@oOodieseloOo, It's because May is the one to speak on it, and expose it, listen to the announcers on this fight. You can tell that what they are saying raises questions , on how pac did a 360 from his fight with marquez, it just don't add up 3 months later. a guy much quicker and stronger moving up in weight with no fat. Name one boxer that did that? None and there are many much better then Pac, you don't go from a all out war with Marquez to knocking out bigger guys with ease. don't add up.
blackstersherron 2 years ago