My god this drivel was aired in the discredited 'Men Who Killed Kennedy' in '88! If you look where the ''Badgeman'' & his pal-('Pith helmet man') are standing their view would have been blocked by the jutting retaining wall. And judging by the size of his head he was about two foot high! And Gordon Arnold wasn't there. Several clear photos of the knoll taken within seconds of the final shot show NOONE in the place where Arnold says he was. And certainly noone in a distinctive army uniform.
did anyone else wonder what if this "badge man" was leaning over.. bending down whilst shooting? if there were anything there to begin with. if you look, ye shall find.
well you see what you want to see. conspiracy theorists want to see a guy, i want to see a gap in the trees because theyre everywhere in that area, there might as well be 20 gunmen if your gonna claim a gap in some leaves is a fucking gunman, tards.
Cont. 6th shot hit Kennedy from the front right in the head at almost the same time as the 5th shot hit him and who knows how many other shots missed or HIT that day. pristine bullet lol a plant to mess the whole investigation up and it has.
If Kennedy's back wound did not exit like they have said then there was at least 6-7 shots fired at the president. 1st shot missed and hit the light signal or the horizontal post holing the signal 2nd shot hit kennedy in the throat from front (hole in windshield) 3rd shot hit John Connelly from the back 4th shot missed and landed in the grass near the manhole cover 5th shot from the back that hit Kennedy in the head and the fragments from that shot hit Connelly in the wrist an thigh 6th shot
THE ASSASSIN SAVED MORE LIVES THAN ALL GODS COMBINE INCLUDING JESUS INCLUDING YOUR OWN LIFE! JFK A DOUBLE O O SPIDER HELL BENT ON THE EXTICTION OF MANKIND (USE IR METER TO CONFIRM SKIN). JFK PLOT 4 THE 23THRD GLOBAL NUCLEAR AHNALIATION ANTICIPAITE CASUALTIES 600 MILLION 1ST PHASE WHILE JFK THREDIIDAE FAMILY WAITED SAFE & SOUND IN CAVES BY THE MILLIONS TO EMERGE AFTER FANG ENVENOMATE ANY SURVIVOR COLLECT FLESH & BONE REVENUE! THE WORLD OWES THE ASSASSIN & IT WAS NOT OSWALD OR ANY MENTIONED.
why the fuck do they go to the photo which you do not see shit! Clearly quite literally the video is digitilized in color moving jeez need I say more. Save us Lord.
0:27 - 0:33 clear photo or video I should say..that many have said they had reported seeing a police vehicle all shiny at least of a vehicle white top with blue body. Weirdly they choose to referto a photo or photos which show absolutely nothing, so you can interpret the nothingness to be anything distracting everyone fromreality
I have come here to confess, i was the second gunman on the grassy knoll. Nevermind that i wasnt born for 6-7 years later-that just goes to show how good i am.
It was known under a different name then, think it was the First bank of America, and or the National Bank so on etc, was shut down and then eventually opened again as the federal reserve, it was the precursor to the federal reserve, their first start at the system being implemented, fucking retard.
How many gunman have the Conspiracy Obsessed placed in Dealey Plaza;
Badge Man, Hard Hat Man, Cowboy Hat Man, Sewer Sniper Man, Behind the Pergola Man, Under the Grassy Knoll Man, Waving at Maryann Moorman Man, The Other Grassy Knoll Man, Dal-Tex Man, The Building Behind the TSBD Man, The Other Man in the TSBD, Shooter In the Trunk of the Limo Man, Triple Underpass Man, Limo Driver Man, Jackie Man, Gun Embedded in the Limo Seat Man, Picket Fence Man, Coke Bottle Man, Black Dog Man, Umbrella Man
@Bonsse88 Finally somebody points out the obvious.
That's why Tippet was killed so quickly. People are always steered away from this fact. If you look at the footage shot after the killing the policemen in them were most likely involved too. They are more concerned in stopping people running into the parking lot rather than trying to capture any gunman. I firmly believe that the Badgeman is real.
This video is nothing more than disinformation and Rudin is nothing more than a paid shill.
This is very unconvincing, no allowance for badgeman kneeling! But nice to see the human facial features of badgeman for ourselves, when the guy says this is interesting, then says no facial features! May all the killed witnesses rest in peace.
Why don't they just get the same camera that the women had... wait the the weather is on par with JFK assassination day and take a picture with an actor in the same pose and see if they can get a similar result.
@Kyle97x Good question. I thought that's exactly what they were going to do when they did the recreation. Maybe they did but the result WASN'T similar so they disregarded it.
Where's part 2? Didn;t this guy take into account that we can only see from the badge man's chest to his head? That would be 2.8 feet. The badge man was behind a fence, so that's all you would see of him.
If the enhanced Moorman photo is to be believed, it certainly does look like a person wearing a uniform at 1:38.
I've often wondered what kind of a shot the 'badgeman' would have had, given his relative position in the Moorman photograph. I had wondered if the white wall would have obstructed his view. But 3:38 shows it was possible, given the low speed of the limosine at that point.
@Redmaniac5 It is possible that the gunman could have fired a shot that missed and hit the curb across the street. One shot did hit the curb, and wound James Teague.
I still have to believe the fatal shot came from 180 degrees opposite from the knoll, from Main street side. Just my opinion of course. I only say that from my experience when I used to hunt. I was 5 when this happened and I hope before I go this can be explained...thruthfully.
The person would only have to be standing on a stepstool or box to have fired the fatal shot. They could have thrown whatever he was standing on in the back of a truck or van, and drove it away.
It is possible that this is Badgeman. Did anyone ever think that he may have been standing on something such as a wooden crate, or back of a pickup truck? This may explain why no spent shells were found behind the fence..they fell into the bed of the truck. Remember, one witness did recall seeing muddy footprints behind the fence, and on a car bumper, just after the shooting. It is possible that the assassin could have been standing on a stepstool, or something else.
@LoneNutter1 Not true. In 1988 a man named Gordon Arnold claimed to have been standing behind the wall, in a military uniform, claiming that a shot was fired from behind him. Color enhanchments of the same photo have shown a man in a military uniform standing behind the wall. Gordon Arnold has admitted in the documentary "The Men That Killed Kennedy" that it was him. However he later said he wished he had not given the interview, fearing his personal saftey.
@WHS1985STINKS Mr. Arnold's story just doesn't have the credibility it should. He's changed his story a couple of times and he told his tale years after the assassination. I find that part to be especially troubling because he was serving in the military and took an oath to defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. Yet he witnesses the killing of his Commander In Chief and he encountered the assassin moments after the killing and he does nothing. He does not try to subdue the
@WHS1985STINKS assassin, nor does he report what he saw and encountered to any law enforcement officer or agency. Let's look at his story; He's told by "an official" that they don't want him standing in a particular area on the knoll. He hears the sound of a rifle immediately behind him and a bullet whizzes past his ear. He sees the president's head explode from the shot. Seconds later the shooter has climbed over the fence and begins kicking him and demanding the film in the camera Arnold was
@WHS1985STINKS using. Arnold surrenders film and camera and the shooter disappears. Interesting that not one person in Dealey Plaza can corroborate Arnold's story even though hundreds of people are looking in his specific direction and some are running towards him. The interpretation of the photo you mention is highly subjective. The images in the photo are blurry, of low resolution and filled with shadows and light. Is it possible Arnold was there? Sure. Is it likely? Not at all. There's one
@WHS1985STINKS more consideration to make about his story; The 9 forensic pathologists for the HSCA said in a unanimous decision that JFK was not struck by a bullet from the front or side and all the shots that struck came from above and behind.
Arnold told this story in 1978, 15 years after the assassination.
@WHS1985STINKS ballistic evidence to suggest JFK was shot from the front or side.
But yet there are those who want to keep looking at the knoll as a location from where shots originated.
It's similar to the story of the man who knows he lost his keys in the backyard at night but looks for them in the front yard under a streetlight because the lighting is better.
Regardless of how much he looks for his keys under the light, they aren't there.
It is possible that this is Badgeman. Did anyone ever think that he may have been standing on something such as a wooden crate, or car bumper. Remember, one witness did recall seeing muddy footprints behind the fence, and on a car bumper, just after the shooting. It is possible that the assassin could have been standing on a stepstool, or something else.
@UltimateDeterrent...Im sure LBJ knew about assassination but he had no hand in the plot. He was just one lucky SOB because there were other people who wanted & needed JFK dead more than he did.
@tremor21 That's exactly what I thought? Why would they expect a shooter to automatically be stood straight up? Especially a sharp shooter? That sounds silly to me.
In a recent YouGov report they said the following; "When asked if Oswald killed JFK, 6% said he “definitely” did not kill him and 11% said he probably did not do it. 33%, however, said that Oswald “definitely” killed our 35th President and 36% said he “probably” killed him". Lets see..33 +36=69% of people say LHO definitely or probably killed JFK. We're changing the hearts and minds of clear thinking people one person at a time. Bye bye CT'ers! Your days are waning.
There were five shots. Shots 3 and 4 were less than 0.5 second apart. No way one gun could do all that. Note: Please render only serious opinions. A man (and our democracy) was murdered that day. Would you go to Pearl Harbor and laugh? I doubt it. Please treat the subject seriously.
He should have measured the badgeman upper torso in a shooting position, most likely getting support from wall with his elbow. Nobody would risk a shot without having any firm support for his weapon.
Everyone who has fired a rifle knows that is totally different sport when shooting from a crouched/supported position and from standing up with no support for your rifle.
The CT'ers have gunmen crawling all over the knoll. We have "Badge Man" in this video and now "Nitwit Neil" believes he's spotted another gunman on the knoll. Watch (and laugh) at "JFK Assassination 2011 New Find" and he wants us to believe the assassin is waving at the camera! .We have sewer sniper man, badge man, black dog man, underneath the knoll man, umbrella man, radio man, bulletproof jacket man, Dal-Tex man, Three tramps man, limo driver man and scores of other phantom assassins.
@LoneNutter1 You know I am in the CT and has been proved that the Badge Man does not exist, Sewer Sniper had no view could not do because JFK was leaning down to Jackie, Black Dog Man ( there was someone there) Umbrella & Radio sent signals to snipers(no doubt about it), Dal-Tex Man hit the curb, Limo driver man(ridiculous) Neil first asked me about the waving man what I think, I told him it looks like a GIANT. Now the 4 videos of the cowboys proving to be snipers you saying NOTHING. Weird.
that doc is dumb.... he is comparing a standing man in another pic to a man crouching and shooting the gun... his analysis is complete bullshit. I dont think the badge man shot actually killed the president, the shot came from the front much straighter coz the exit wound was at the back of his head and not side if the fatal shot came from the badgman!
@tigersoup The shot may have come from further down the picket fence where it meets the overpass. I believe there is a sewer there. A sewer. A SEWER!! No, no, no, I do not mean @LiquorWreckedEmGood. He just smells like a sewer. He is not a sewer. He is not a sewer. Thank you.
@tigersoup If the exit wound was on the lower right rear of JFK's head then the shot would not have been as such an angle as you state. It must have been a shot from a straighter angle and the shooter would have been more in front of the president. I did not understand his analysis of the badge man, if he exisited, being a little over 2 ft tall.
If the retainer wall is 5ft tall, a man crouched in a firing position could be of 6ft. or taller.
i never knew those "grassy knoll" walls in were that close in proximity to the motorcade. and no cops or witnesses behind those walls? that just seems strange. if you look at the footage, kennedy was clearly shot from a front side angle. i personally don't see anyone there, but it would seem logical that someone was.
the idea that oswald could have done this from his purported position, three gun shots that quick... it just doesn't seem plausible.
2.88' tall? Did ya ever think he would be crouching so as not to be noticed? After all, he is shooting at the president and therefore wouldn't want to be noticed.
Marylin Monroe killed Kennedy IN BED in 1962 and was permanently hushed up. A substitute Kennedy was put in place until 1963 when his contract ran out and he asked for more money. He was removed because of that plus the fact that Jackie thought his penis was too small and she wanted to be free to marry Onasis who also had a small penis but a lot of money too and Jackie, after all, was a woman.
There's a puff of smoke from that location at 0:30 just at the point where the limo slows right down. On the Zapruder film the driver turns round at the moment the car slows and then as soon as the fatal shot is fired he turns to face the front and drives off. The driver was probably waiting for the fatal shot before speeding up and why was there only a smallnumber of people on that stretch where the shots were fired?
whatever happened on that day these so called experts are morons with the fact that there's a man stood behind the retaining wall at 6:19 and he isn't 2.88 feet tall otherwise where the hell are his legs? For a start, if it is a man from the chest to the top of his head he's got to be just under 2 foot from the centre of his chest to the top of his head and even if the ground isn't much deeper behind the retaining wall a man can be about 2.88 feet tall if he's kneeling.
i can't help but think of the austin powers scene where mini-me is in the baby carriage and sit's up and shoots that poison dart at that demetri guy. lolol. mini-me killed jfk...
I just can't believe with all of these "experts" looking at this photograph for almost 50 yrs. that no one at all had caught a person waving at the President right beside this so called "Badge Man"
YES, THERE IS SOMEONE WAVING TO THE PRESIDENT AS THE CAR DRIVES BY RIGHT BEHIND THE CEMENT WALL, AND RIGHT BESIDE THIS SO CALLED "BADGE MAN"
TO SEE IT PLEASE TAKE 30 SECONDS AND GO TO "JFK Assassination - New Person found in Infamous "Moorman Photo"
well when ever i shoot from a supported position i shoot leaning FAR against the supported position to give better accuracy.. along with that the supposed killer was french so the guy probably wasnt that tall.. these guy were trained and professional.. they all were probably all dead within the week after
@smithnya No way, man. They had a hand in it b/c Kennedy was wanting to share space crap with the Russkies. That didn't sit too well w/ the Masons and Nazis who were running nasa at the time. So they took care of "the problem"
@smithnya Absolutely outrageous!! It is clear from newly released video footage that it was J.Edgar Hoover who was concealed in the glove compartment of the presidential limousine who shot JFK. The dimensions of the glove compartment are quite adequate to allow this - as can be seen from blueprint's of the limousine's design. You can clearly see J. Edgar Hoover pull a submachine-gun out of HIS bra!!
If Lee Harvard Oswald was part of the Conspiracy and one of the shooters he would fire only one shot from the 6th floor. CIA would not have a sniper fire more than one shot in each location, 3 shots from the window would call the attention of the crowd.
Don' t forget the meaning of CIA - Central Intelligence Agency.
@Verdelufe Conspiracy Junk? Do you believe that Oswald did it then? What about the HSCA. They said there was a conspiracy. How did Oswald do all the shooting? He was on the second floor at the time. So he couldn't have done the shooting.
@semisonicTV Are you talking to me ? I am sorry I do not understand well what you trying to say. What I said about LHO was that if he were part of a conspiracy he fired just one shot, if he act alone with 3 or 4 shots from the window he would be caught by the crowd, therefore he was not on the 6th floor, then he would not be the lone shooter. Nobody knows who was on the 6th floor window. It has been proved that LHO did not have enough time to buy a Coke at 2nd floor in 1.5 min. w/elevator out.
@Verdelufe Its standard operating procedure to have two or more sharpshooters for high value targets. I was a sniper in Vietnam. So where did all those shots come from then? Ever see the video of about 50 people running to the grassy knoll and pointing?
@Stillwater900 Go to " Lee Bowers witness men in uniforms" + 3 videos proving. If you are a deep believer in a lone assassin you probably will LOL or do Mockery, there is nothing I can do about it. Those are the real facts.
@Stillwater900 You are a straight shooter, see facts, analyse, unaffraid and deliver an opinion. Very hard to find a dude like you in the JFK assassination case.
i don't understand this guy's conclusion. the wall is 5 feet; about 2-3 feet of the figure is sticking up over the top of the wall, but he concludes the guy is 2' 8" tall? it seems to me that he was standing on a chair behind the wall. what am i missing here?
The best evidence of a hidden shooter is still frame #413 from the Zapruder film. Funny how no one discusses the most obvious and convincing piece of evidence any longer--not even in the two-hour documentaries for the Discovery and History channels and what-have-you. In fact, it's difficult to find the image on the internet. Try searching for it, and you'll see what I mean. Odd, isn't it?
@jannyrcobs With all due respect at 413 Jackie was on top of the limo trunk, 100 frames had passed since the last shot. Do you still believes the shooter would be hanging in there all this time, I know someone mentioned at the video you are talking about a rifle mixed with short branches from the bush, I would suggest you
@jannyrcobs How do you explain the forensic report from the HSCA that says there is no medical evidence to support theories the president was shot from the front or side?
How do you explain that nobody saw anyone shooting at the president from the grassy knoll?
How do you explain that Lee Bowers, who had the best view of the grassy knoll area didn't see anyone firing form the knoll and didn't see anyone leave after the shooting?
How do you explain the particulate matter from the head shot all
@autoad there were no bullet fragments found in the car, LBJ ordered the car to be cleaned before any inspection could be performed. kinda weird how he is interested in how clean the car is instead of his wounded president...
there were more than one shooter, nearly 20 years later 2 spent bullet casings were found under an air vent on the county records building. who goes shooting a gun on a building on a bust street?
@zekefender There were a number of bullet fragments found inside the presidential limo. Some were ballistically matched to LHO rifle to the exclusion of al other rifles. Other fragments were analyzed by Dr. Vincent Guinn using a neutron activation process that determines the composition of bullets and bullet fragments. The fragments showed the bullet to be comprised of metals from the Western Cartridge Company. This was the same ammo that LHO used the day he shot JFK.
@zekefender Your claim of LBJ having the car washed before there was evidence collected is wrong.
If there was more than one shooter you're going to have to prove it. Two spent bullet casings is interesting but falls way short of proving anything. Can you;
1.Pin-point the exact position of the shooter or shooters?
2.Identify the weapon the other shooter used?
3.Identify the ammo used?
4.Identify the entry wounds and match their characteristics to the ammo?
and the exact points are unknown to everyone but the proof of the spent shell casings is a fact.
the weapon can not be determined considering many different guns can fire the same ammo.
its hard to identify the entry wounds considering that the dallas doctors and Bethesda have different pictures, stories, and intentions during the autopsy.
thank you for your input i like hearing what others think
@zekefender Then there's no case for another shooter. If there's no evidence someone else was shooting at the president, why are we looking for one? You may as well look for a shooter on the moon.
I'll take your word there were shell casings found. But what is that evidence of in the JFK assassination?
@autoad the why did kennedys head go back and to the left, instead of forward?
the exit wound of a bullet is always bigger than the entry wound. its just physics.given that information why was the back of kennedys head blown out while only a knuckle size hole in the front?
oswald didnt even know he was taken into custody for the presidents assassination, he thought he was taken in for killing a cop. he first heard of being accused as the assassin from the reporters. if not him who? 2nd shooter
@zekefender The "back and to the left" is generally believed to be a neuromuscular reaction to the trauma the brain experienced from the 3rd shot. What it is not is a physical reaction of him being shot from the front or side. A bullet will not move the head of a person with that kind of force when they're shot. The average human head will move aprox. 2 inches when struck with a full metal jacket round. Look carefully at frames 313-314 of the Zapruder film. JFK's head moves forward about 2"
@autoad The spray of brain matter, skull bone fragments, and blood and the physics of projectile motion disagree. In addition, one must consider the random absence of several vital pieces of evidence, such as Kennedy's brain, which may have offered more insight into the injuries.
@apollonius1994 The bullet fragments in the brain were plotted and tested via the neutron activation process. The brain came into possession of Bobby Kennedy who had it buried with his JFK's remains when the casket was moved to its present day location. The physical, medical and ballistic evidence are in agreement with each other that the president was struck from behind. There appears to be an insistence that there MUST be a gunman to the front or side of JFK. Yet there is ZERO evidence to
@apollonius1994 support that desire. We may have the best of intentions hoping, wanting, needing, demanding that there be a shooter to the front or side of JFK. But if there is ZERO evidence supporting that passion, we're wasting our time chasing gunmen that are creatures of our imagination.
@zekefender when he was struck from behind. The particulate matter from the 3rd shot moves forward. The spray of the matter covered John and Nelie Connolly and Secret Service agents Greer and Kellerman. The bullet fragments from the 3rd shot were forward of JFK. The forensic evidence shows JFK was shot in the back of the head and the exit wound was to his upper right portion of the scull. The back of JFK's head was not blown out. The medical staff at Parkland said it "looked" like it was. But
@zekefender nobody in the ER performed an examination of the wounds. They were focused on trying to save his life. They never turned JFK over because if they did they would have seen the wound to his back. Dr. Michael Baden, the pathologist who lead the team of 8 other pathologists for the HSCA believes that what the ER people saw was brain matter and fluid oozing from the side of his head and it ran down to the back of his head giving the appearance of a wound to the back of the head.
@zekefender LHO was taken into custody at the Texas Theater for the shooting of Office Tippit. You can't state what Oswald was thinking. Nobody is privy to the thoughts of another person. He became a suspect in the killing of the president after he has been taken into police custody.
You keep repeating the possibility of another shooter. But there's no evidence of a 2nd shooter. There's no physical, ballistic or medical evidence anyone other than LHO had shot at the president.
@autoad There was an autopsy analysis that saw a shot that corresponded with a direction from the right and front of Kennedy, and one shot on the acoustical tape was recorded a mere 0.44 seconds after another shot. I'm sure Oswald's rifle can't shoot that fast :) In addition, there were phony "Secret Service agents" in the Grassy Knoll following the assassination, while all real agents followed the motorcade to the Hospital. Furthermore, the angular spray of brain tissue/matter agrees with this.
@apollonius1994 There is no autopsy report that declares JFK was shot from the front or side. The acoustical tape was examined by the National Academy of Sciences and they said there are no gunshots on the recording. The scientists who testified to the HSCA claiming the shots were recorded made some significant assumptions when making their report. They claimed the recording was made by the microphone on HB McClain's motorcycle.And they said they could identify the location he'd have to be to
@apollonius1994 record the shots. They said he'd be at the intersection of Houston and Elm. He wasn't. He was 170 feet away at he corner of Main and Houston. The acoustic evidence is null and void.
If there were phony Secret Service agents in Dealey Plaza, what does that prove and what does it have to do with the angle of the spray of the particulate matter?
@autoad "If there were phony Secret Service agents in Dealey Plaza, what does that prove and what does it have to do with the angle of the spray of the particulate matter?"
thats what i thought sorry to but in, i agree with you regarding the evidence but i still think there was a conspiracy....continue.
@autoad well im not your typical conspiracy cook and i dont believe in most especially ones involving "Phony secret service agents" and other spooky dudes. I do agree with you regarding the evidence and that LHO did it. but i think his hand was pushed by the MOB.
@autoad Well JFK's dad had Mob connections and after he got elected his brother betrayed them and went after them. They deported Mob boss Carlos Marcello who had ties to LHO and David Ferrie along with others. According to what I have seen Carlos was furios. There where also several threats prior to the dallas shooting alot of them having Mob connections. There is allot more too it then that I just don't have the space but i think the mob having a hand in this is cohesive and makes sense to me.
My god this drivel was aired in the discredited 'Men Who Killed Kennedy' in '88! If you look where the ''Badgeman'' & his pal-('Pith helmet man') are standing their view would have been blocked by the jutting retaining wall. And judging by the size of his head he was about two foot high! And Gordon Arnold wasn't there. Several clear photos of the knoll taken within seconds of the final shot show NOONE in the place where Arnold says he was. And certainly noone in a distinctive army uniform.
MALCBAGGIE 1 week ago
JFK never had a chance they placed to many snipers.
only thing i ask myself when he first got shot why didn't the wife tried to duck down
with JFK and not let them bastards get that fatal shot, , we need to know the real truth
peace out.
mephisto88x 1 week ago
did anyone else wonder what if this "badge man" was leaning over.. bending down whilst shooting? if there were anything there to begin with. if you look, ye shall find.
taylorlashaetv 1 week ago
Wow 3 ft tall shooter, guess this "expert" never heard of crouching or kneeling.. smh
vascone315 2 weeks ago
well you see what you want to see. conspiracy theorists want to see a guy, i want to see a gap in the trees because theyre everywhere in that area, there might as well be 20 gunmen if your gonna claim a gap in some leaves is a fucking gunman, tards.
stonesrgr82000 2 weeks ago
the angle is wrong....the other shooter woulda been farther to the left
guionlawes 2 weeks ago
some guy was probably releaving himself .... that's all!
lexi3570 3 weeks ago
Cont. 6th shot hit Kennedy from the front right in the head at almost the same time as the 5th shot hit him and who knows how many other shots missed or HIT that day. pristine bullet lol a plant to mess the whole investigation up and it has.
akaredcrossbow 3 weeks ago
If Kennedy's back wound did not exit like they have said then there was at least 6-7 shots fired at the president. 1st shot missed and hit the light signal or the horizontal post holing the signal 2nd shot hit kennedy in the throat from front (hole in windshield) 3rd shot hit John Connelly from the back 4th shot missed and landed in the grass near the manhole cover 5th shot from the back that hit Kennedy in the head and the fragments from that shot hit Connelly in the wrist an thigh 6th shot
akaredcrossbow 3 weeks ago
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THE ASSASSIN SAVED MORE LIVES THAN ALL GODS COMBINE INCLUDING JESUS INCLUDING YOUR OWN LIFE! JFK A DOUBLE O O SPIDER HELL BENT ON THE EXTICTION OF MANKIND (USE IR METER TO CONFIRM SKIN). JFK PLOT 4 THE 23THRD GLOBAL NUCLEAR AHNALIATION ANTICIPAITE CASUALTIES 600 MILLION 1ST PHASE WHILE JFK THREDIIDAE FAMILY WAITED SAFE & SOUND IN CAVES BY THE MILLIONS TO EMERGE AFTER FANG ENVENOMATE ANY SURVIVOR COLLECT FLESH & BONE REVENUE! THE WORLD OWES THE ASSASSIN & IT WAS NOT OSWALD OR ANY MENTIONED.
inspectorcritic 3 weeks ago
why the fuck do they go to the photo which you do not see shit! Clearly quite literally the video is digitilized in color moving jeez need I say more. Save us Lord.
0:27 - 0:33 clear photo or video I should say..that many have said they had reported seeing a police vehicle all shiny at least of a vehicle white top with blue body. Weirdly they choose to referto a photo or photos which show absolutely nothing, so you can interpret the nothingness to be anything distracting everyone fromreality
RSUN2012 3 weeks ago
So obvious to anyone with a brain.
greymoose1000 1 month ago
I have come here to confess, i was the second gunman on the grassy knoll. Nevermind that i wasnt born for 6-7 years later-that just goes to show how good i am.
ZX2ManDave 1 month ago
@ZX2ManDave I'll bet you faked your own birth.
andrelebaron 1 month ago
@ZX2ManDave we'll look to you to declare. I have located ... F.B.I
ramon3605 1 month ago
since when do you have to stand at your full height to fire a weapon?
However, if there truly was someone there, I would have expected more differences between this supposed entity and the background.
AberdeenECC1983 1 month ago
i heard a theory before that there were like 3 men on the grasy knoll dressed as policemen
RichieMcCormick1888 1 month ago
@RichieMcCormick1888
Not sure but we should all know why he was really killed.
JFK's Executive Order 11110 to end the federal reserve.
Only one other person tried....Abraham Lincoln.
CelticAngloPress 1 month ago
@CelticAngloPress umm, the Fed hadn't even been created yet when Lincoln was President, genius.
andrelebaron 1 month ago
@andrelebaron
"Genius"
It was known under a different name then, think it was the First bank of America, and or the National Bank so on etc, was shut down and then eventually opened again as the federal reserve, it was the precursor to the federal reserve, their first start at the system being implemented, fucking retard.
CelticAngloPress 1 month ago
@autoad Do you still have the hots for Jean Hill?
Everybody will know you're a lesbian, now
usuIkane 1 month ago
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How many gunman have the Conspiracy Obsessed placed in Dealey Plaza;
Badge Man, Hard Hat Man, Cowboy Hat Man, Sewer Sniper Man, Behind the Pergola Man, Under the Grassy Knoll Man, Waving at Maryann Moorman Man, The Other Grassy Knoll Man, Dal-Tex Man, The Building Behind the TSBD Man, The Other Man in the TSBD, Shooter In the Trunk of the Limo Man, Triple Underpass Man, Limo Driver Man, Jackie Man, Gun Embedded in the Limo Seat Man, Picket Fence Man, Coke Bottle Man, Black Dog Man, Umbrella Man
autoad 1 month ago
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autoad 1 month ago
"Assuming that the person standing here is roughly 6 feet......"
You don't know fuck all, buddy. Maybe the dude was crouching. Or standing on the bumper of a car in the parking lot and further away in the picture.
Bonsse88 1 month ago
JD Tippet was the Grassy Knoll gunman
Bonsse88 1 month ago
@Bonsse88 Finally somebody points out the obvious.
That's why Tippet was killed so quickly. People are always steered away from this fact. If you look at the footage shot after the killing the policemen in them were most likely involved too. They are more concerned in stopping people running into the parking lot rather than trying to capture any gunman. I firmly believe that the Badgeman is real.
This video is nothing more than disinformation and Rudin is nothing more than a paid shill.
thunderbirdsdog 1 month ago
@thunderbirdsdog Bullshit.
IwshIcldstrtover 2 weeks ago
.as soon as I hear that History Channel voice over guy, I know I'm being lied to.
dogdove 1 month ago 9
@dogdove lol agreed
Jamzkangster 3 weeks ago
This convinces me even more that Oswald killed Kennedy.
George Vreeland Hill
GeorgeVreelandHill 2 months ago
Roscoe White or Lucien Sarti? Maybe Michael Victor Mertz.. who knows..
MrLongenecker 2 months ago
This is very unconvincing, no allowance for badgeman kneeling! But nice to see the human facial features of badgeman for ourselves, when the guy says this is interesting, then says no facial features! May all the killed witnesses rest in peace.
Wisemanifold 2 months ago
This is yet another Discovery Channel / National Geographic whitewash piece.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 2 months ago
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TheLensSolution 2 months ago
Why don't they just get the same camera that the women had... wait the the weather is on par with JFK assassination day and take a picture with an actor in the same pose and see if they can get a similar result.
Kyle97x 2 months ago
@Kyle97x Good question. I thought that's exactly what they were going to do when they did the recreation. Maybe they did but the result WASN'T similar so they disregarded it.
ADAMSIXTIES 2 months ago
Badge Man looks like to JACK RUBY and DAVİD FERRİE...
SUSSTURUCU 2 months ago
Gordan Arnold is a liar!!!!! Don't believe his story
TheMovieMan91 2 months ago
Where's part 2? Didn;t this guy take into account that we can only see from the badge man's chest to his head? That would be 2.8 feet. The badge man was behind a fence, so that's all you would see of him.
Saebeck32 2 months ago
This video takes 8 minutes to say what I knew after 5 seconds watching another Badge Man video - Badge Man is a lot of horse shit.
Zebonka 2 months ago
Interesting video.
If the enhanced Moorman photo is to be believed, it certainly does look like a person wearing a uniform at 1:38.
I've often wondered what kind of a shot the 'badgeman' would have had, given his relative position in the Moorman photograph. I had wondered if the white wall would have obstructed his view. But 3:38 shows it was possible, given the low speed of the limosine at that point.
Redmaniac5 3 months ago
@Redmaniac5 It is possible that the gunman could have fired a shot that missed and hit the curb across the street. One shot did hit the curb, and wound James Teague.
WHS1985STINKS 3 months ago
what channel did this come on originally
juliaannvalentine 3 months ago
I still have to believe the fatal shot came from 180 degrees opposite from the knoll, from Main street side. Just my opinion of course. I only say that from my experience when I used to hunt. I was 5 when this happened and I hope before I go this can be explained...thruthfully.
mgwilliams1000 3 months ago
There is nothing here.
And even if you were a "secret service assassin", would you really keep your fucking badge on?
Heaney5551 3 months ago
Nothing conclusive to go on here really. Just chasing smoke and mirages.
xxbullitt1968xx 3 months ago
I dont see a god damn thing.
Jabberdau 3 months ago 13
@Jabberdau LOL!
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SUSSTURUCU 2 months ago
The person would only have to be standing on a stepstool or box to have fired the fatal shot. They could have thrown whatever he was standing on in the back of a truck or van, and drove it away.
WHS1985STINKS 3 months ago
It is possible that this is Badgeman. Did anyone ever think that he may have been standing on something such as a wooden crate, or back of a pickup truck? This may explain why no spent shells were found behind the fence..they fell into the bed of the truck. Remember, one witness did recall seeing muddy footprints behind the fence, and on a car bumper, just after the shooting. It is possible that the assassin could have been standing on a stepstool, or something else.
WHS1985STINKS 4 months ago
@WHS1985STINKS are there any trucks in the 1960's 20 feet tall?
wswlkr83 3 months ago
@WHS1985STINKS Anything is possible. The question to ask "Is it probable"?
Let's take a look at the facts;
Nobody saw anyone on the knoll shooting at the president.
Nobody saw anyone running away from the knoll immediately after the shooting.
Nobody found any shells, or evidence that a shot(s) were fired from the knoll.
JFK did not have any entry wounds to his front or side.
We have zero witnesses to a gunman before, during or after the shooting and there is no medical, physical, forensic or
LoneNutter1 3 months ago
@LoneNutter1 Not true. In 1988 a man named Gordon Arnold claimed to have been standing behind the wall, in a military uniform, claiming that a shot was fired from behind him. Color enhanchments of the same photo have shown a man in a military uniform standing behind the wall. Gordon Arnold has admitted in the documentary "The Men That Killed Kennedy" that it was him. However he later said he wished he had not given the interview, fearing his personal saftey.
WHS1985STINKS 3 months ago
@WHS1985STINKS Mr. Arnold's story just doesn't have the credibility it should. He's changed his story a couple of times and he told his tale years after the assassination. I find that part to be especially troubling because he was serving in the military and took an oath to defend the country against all enemies foreign and domestic. Yet he witnesses the killing of his Commander In Chief and he encountered the assassin moments after the killing and he does nothing. He does not try to subdue the
LoneNutter1 3 months ago
@WHS1985STINKS assassin, nor does he report what he saw and encountered to any law enforcement officer or agency. Let's look at his story; He's told by "an official" that they don't want him standing in a particular area on the knoll. He hears the sound of a rifle immediately behind him and a bullet whizzes past his ear. He sees the president's head explode from the shot. Seconds later the shooter has climbed over the fence and begins kicking him and demanding the film in the camera Arnold was
LoneNutter1 3 months ago
@WHS1985STINKS using. Arnold surrenders film and camera and the shooter disappears. Interesting that not one person in Dealey Plaza can corroborate Arnold's story even though hundreds of people are looking in his specific direction and some are running towards him. The interpretation of the photo you mention is highly subjective. The images in the photo are blurry, of low resolution and filled with shadows and light. Is it possible Arnold was there? Sure. Is it likely? Not at all. There's one
LoneNutter1 3 months ago
@WHS1985STINKS more consideration to make about his story; The 9 forensic pathologists for the HSCA said in a unanimous decision that JFK was not struck by a bullet from the front or side and all the shots that struck came from above and behind.
Arnold told this story in 1978, 15 years after the assassination.
LoneNutter1 3 months ago
@WHS1985STINKS ballistic evidence to suggest JFK was shot from the front or side.
But yet there are those who want to keep looking at the knoll as a location from where shots originated.
It's similar to the story of the man who knows he lost his keys in the backyard at night but looks for them in the front yard under a streetlight because the lighting is better.
Regardless of how much he looks for his keys under the light, they aren't there.
LoneNutter1 3 months ago
It is possible that this is Badgeman. Did anyone ever think that he may have been standing on something such as a wooden crate, or car bumper. Remember, one witness did recall seeing muddy footprints behind the fence, and on a car bumper, just after the shooting. It is possible that the assassin could have been standing on a stepstool, or something else.
WHS1985STINKS 4 months ago
He could be kneeling. lol
mmamostwanted 4 months ago
The vice President killed JFK,but US government concealed the fact in order to stop Second Civil War in America.
UltimateDeterrent 4 months ago
@UltimateDeterrent
Johnson believed at the time, and when he died, that Castro had killed Kennedy.
He had nothing to DO with the assassination.
Kennedy was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, on his own accord, with 3 shots.
Check "JFK: Beyond Conspiracy".
Heaney5551 3 months ago
@Heaney5551 Yes,I and all over the world know LBJ killed JFK.
UltimateDeterrent 3 months ago
@UltimateDeterrent
LBJ died thinking that it was fucking Castro.
He had nothing to do with the assassination. Anyone who's done ANY investigation knows that it was Oswald alone...
Heaney5551 3 months ago
@Heaney5551 LBJ killed J.F.Kenedy. Mac Wallace's fingerprint is the evidence.
UltimateDeterrent 3 months ago
@UltimateDeterrent
One fingerprint is not evidence.
There is far more evidence that PROVES that Oswald was the assassin.
Heaney5551 3 months ago
@UltimateDeterrent...Im sure LBJ knew about assassination but he had no hand in the plot. He was just one lucky SOB because there were other people who wanted & needed JFK dead more than he did.
voodoochef100 2 months ago
Upon further review the blurry image of a smudgy blob is revealed.
gastonave 4 months ago
Badge man used his golden Lugers which he completely missed with
Mycupofjoe91 4 months ago
Badge Man was a right-wing radical circus midget in a stripper-cop uniform.
cosmodrum1 4 months ago
Crouched perhaps ???
ChrisyYbush 5 months ago
could he be kneeling?
wrestlingluva 5 months ago
This is unsolved history...
MrKnockout36 5 months ago
he is real
MrKnockout36 5 months ago
@tremor21 That's exactly what I thought? Why would they expect a shooter to automatically be stood straight up? Especially a sharp shooter? That sounds silly to me.
RssMMA 5 months ago
In a recent YouGov report they said the following; "When asked if Oswald killed JFK, 6% said he “definitely” did not kill him and 11% said he probably did not do it. 33%, however, said that Oswald “definitely” killed our 35th President and 36% said he “probably” killed him". Lets see..33 +36=69% of people say LHO definitely or probably killed JFK. We're changing the hearts and minds of clear thinking people one person at a time. Bye bye CT'ers! Your days are waning.
LoneNutter1 5 months ago
dat grass
Regginyaga 5 months ago
This Evil LBJ statement WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
LBJ Evil joke about JFK
"I told? him that morning at breakfast...Son, I'm afraid this just ant' your day. Your going to the morgue and I'm going back to the White House"
cruisersism 6 months ago
@autoad Von Penis head!!
usuIkane 6 months ago
There were five shots. Shots 3 and 4 were less than 0.5 second apart. No way one gun could do all that. Note: Please render only serious opinions. A man (and our democracy) was murdered that day. Would you go to Pearl Harbor and laugh? I doubt it. Please treat the subject seriously.
Boelcke1919 6 months ago
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Idiotic analysis.
He should have measured the badgeman upper torso in a shooting position, most likely getting support from wall with his elbow. Nobody would risk a shot without having any firm support for his weapon.
Everyone who has fired a rifle knows that is totally different sport when shooting from a crouched/supported position and from standing up with no support for your rifle.
RAMB0IV 6 months ago
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RAMB0IV 6 months ago
shot from the fence period 4 guns come on folks time to wake up 50years later
cullinane8888 6 months ago
OSWALD FIRED NONE......................
cruisersism 6 months ago
The CT'ers have gunmen crawling all over the knoll. We have "Badge Man" in this video and now "Nitwit Neil" believes he's spotted another gunman on the knoll. Watch (and laugh) at "JFK Assassination 2011 New Find" and he wants us to believe the assassin is waving at the camera! .We have sewer sniper man, badge man, black dog man, underneath the knoll man, umbrella man, radio man, bulletproof jacket man, Dal-Tex man, Three tramps man, limo driver man and scores of other phantom assassins.
LoneNutter1 6 months ago
@LoneNutter1 You know I am in the CT and has been proved that the Badge Man does not exist, Sewer Sniper had no view could not do because JFK was leaning down to Jackie, Black Dog Man ( there was someone there) Umbrella & Radio sent signals to snipers(no doubt about it), Dal-Tex Man hit the curb, Limo driver man(ridiculous) Neil first asked me about the waving man what I think, I told him it looks like a GIANT. Now the 4 videos of the cowboys proving to be snipers you saying NOTHING. Weird.
Verdelufe 6 months ago
@Verdelufe I can't respond to every goofy theory on YouTube. There aren't enough hours in the day to do that.
Black Dog Man- a tale born from small minds.
Umbrella Man and Radio Man- wishful thinking. No evidence of anything underhanded.
Dal-Tex Man- an invention of some of the CT'ers to explain what LHO did. No evidence there either.
Numbskull Neil asks for he opinions of those who agree with him. And that is a very small circle of associates.
LoneNutter1 6 months ago
@LoneNutter1 LoneNutter1 is the invention of a sick, diseased and deranged mind.
usuIkane 6 months ago
@LoneNutter1 When are you going to stop your stalking and trolling??
usuIkane 6 months ago
@usuIkane How can I stop something when I haven't begun?
LoneNutter1 6 months ago
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@LoneNutter1 How can I stop something when I haven't begun?
usuIkane 5 months ago
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@usuIkane Shut the fuck up!! You fucking sheep!! Stop STALKING me! You fucking TROLL!!
usuIkane 6 months ago
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usuIkane 5 months ago
@LoneNutter1 Goofy!!!!
usuIkane 6 months ago
Jackie leaned forward to attend Kennedy and was in line of any alleged Oswald shots, is that expert Jewish?
MarkB1ngham 7 months ago
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elvisworldwide 7 months ago
Thats been debunked in my opinion, I never believed that bs about the guy anyway, it couldve been anyone in that photo.
kdj997 7 months ago
a midget killed him!!!!!!
SHMEDLYBOB 7 months ago
that doc is dumb.... he is comparing a standing man in another pic to a man crouching and shooting the gun... his analysis is complete bullshit. I dont think the badge man shot actually killed the president, the shot came from the front much straighter coz the exit wound was at the back of his head and not side if the fatal shot came from the badgman!
tigersoup 7 months ago 2
@tigersoup The shot may have come from further down the picket fence where it meets the overpass. I believe there is a sewer there. A sewer. A SEWER!! No, no, no, I do not mean @LiquorWreckedEmGood. He just smells like a sewer. He is not a sewer. He is not a sewer. Thank you.
usuIkane 7 months ago
@tigersoup If the exit wound was on the lower right rear of JFK's head then the shot would not have been as such an angle as you state. It must have been a shot from a straighter angle and the shooter would have been more in front of the president. I did not understand his analysis of the badge man, if he exisited, being a little over 2 ft tall.
If the retainer wall is 5ft tall, a man crouched in a firing position could be of 6ft. or taller.
TheAmbassador11 7 months ago
oswald alone & unaided end of, fact
grettoz 7 months ago
could he be kneeling down to shoot?
TheC17A 7 months ago
i never knew those "grassy knoll" walls in were that close in proximity to the motorcade. and no cops or witnesses behind those walls? that just seems strange. if you look at the footage, kennedy was clearly shot from a front side angle. i personally don't see anyone there, but it would seem logical that someone was.
the idea that oswald could have done this from his purported position, three gun shots that quick... it just doesn't seem plausible.
tomitstube 7 months ago
2.88' tall? Did ya ever think he would be crouching so as not to be noticed? After all, he is shooting at the president and therefore wouldn't want to be noticed.
jmc575 7 months ago
i am sure tha in like 50-100 they will have certenly recognised the bagdeman if he exists . cause think the technology will be twice better
MrSpiraklas 7 months ago
Marylin Monroe killed Kennedy IN BED in 1962 and was permanently hushed up. A substitute Kennedy was put in place until 1963 when his contract ran out and he asked for more money. He was removed because of that plus the fact that Jackie thought his penis was too small and she wanted to be free to marry Onasis who also had a small penis but a lot of money too and Jackie, after all, was a woman.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 8 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood
you must be on some good shit buddy!!!
grettoz 7 months ago
@grettoz
just breathing the sweet, fresh air of reality pal.
LiquorWreckedEmGood 7 months ago
@LiquorWreckedEmGood
sounds like your drinkin the shit from the conspiracy well my friend!!!!
grettoz 7 months ago
There's a puff of smoke from that location at 0:30 just at the point where the limo slows right down. On the Zapruder film the driver turns round at the moment the car slows and then as soon as the fatal shot is fired he turns to face the front and drives off. The driver was probably waiting for the fatal shot before speeding up and why was there only a smallnumber of people on that stretch where the shots were fired?
RobHandford 8 months ago
whatever happened on that day these so called experts are morons with the fact that there's a man stood behind the retaining wall at 6:19 and he isn't 2.88 feet tall otherwise where the hell are his legs? For a start, if it is a man from the chest to the top of his head he's got to be just under 2 foot from the centre of his chest to the top of his head and even if the ground isn't much deeper behind the retaining wall a man can be about 2.88 feet tall if he's kneeling.
RobHandford 8 months ago
i can't help but think of the austin powers scene where mini-me is in the baby carriage and sit's up and shoots that poison dart at that demetri guy. lolol. mini-me killed jfk...
polskie90 8 months ago
Shitty ass polaroid film...sigh...
nicks462 8 months ago
Good Video
ProtectAus 8 months ago
There's no one waving at anyone in the Moorman photo. More shadow puppet garbage.
399er 8 months ago
I just can't believe with all of these "experts" looking at this photograph for almost 50 yrs. that no one at all had caught a person waving at the President right beside this so called "Badge Man"
YES, THERE IS SOMEONE WAVING TO THE PRESIDENT AS THE CAR DRIVES BY RIGHT BEHIND THE CEMENT WALL, AND RIGHT BESIDE THIS SO CALLED "BADGE MAN"
TO SEE IT PLEASE TAKE 30 SECONDS AND GO TO "JFK Assassination - New Person found in Infamous "Moorman Photo"
OR COPY AND PAST
watch?v=zRvXSwNInqE
CHEERS ALL
NeilCrouse 8 months ago
well when ever i shoot from a supported position i shoot leaning FAR against the supported position to give better accuracy.. along with that the supposed killer was french so the guy probably wasnt that tall.. these guy were trained and professional.. they all were probably all dead within the week after
7428marcus 8 months ago
I can't see any man there never mind one wearing a badge,
adrianjonathansmith 9 months ago
NASA killed Kennedy
nuggz503 9 months ago 3
@nuggz503 Preposterous! It was Jackie. You can see her pull out a Derringer out of her bra!
smithnya 9 months ago 3
@smithnya No way, man. They had a hand in it b/c Kennedy was wanting to share space crap with the Russkies. That didn't sit too well w/ the Masons and Nazis who were running nasa at the time. So they took care of "the problem"
nuggz503 9 months ago
@nuggz503 Dude, he was weeks away from signing legislation to END THE FED, and "shatter the CIA into a million pieces."
Stillwater900 7 months ago
@Stillwater900 that too
nuggz503 7 months ago
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usuIkane 7 months ago
@smithnya Absolutely outrageous!! It is clear from newly released video footage that it was J.Edgar Hoover who was concealed in the glove compartment of the presidential limousine who shot JFK. The dimensions of the glove compartment are quite adequate to allow this - as can be seen from blueprint's of the limousine's design. You can clearly see J. Edgar Hoover pull a submachine-gun out of HIS bra!!
usuIkane 7 months ago
@smithnya
Yeah I agree Jackie murdered to his husband beacuse He was infidel to her!!
NostalgicChannel 7 months ago
@smithnya
Yeah I agree Jackie murdered to her husband because He was infidel to her!!
NostalgicChannel 7 months ago
@smithnya
No. Jackie pulled the derringer out of her panties. JFK's last words were, "I smell tuna fish".
LiquorWreckedEmGood 6 months ago
If Lee Harvard Oswald was part of the Conspiracy and one of the shooters he would fire only one shot from the 6th floor. CIA would not have a sniper fire more than one shot in each location, 3 shots from the window would call the attention of the crowd.
Don' t forget the meaning of CIA - Central Intelligence Agency.
Verdelufe 9 months ago 3
@Verdelufe Conspiracy Junk? Do you believe that Oswald did it then? What about the HSCA. They said there was a conspiracy. How did Oswald do all the shooting? He was on the second floor at the time. So he couldn't have done the shooting.
semisonicTV 8 months ago
@semisonicTV Are you talking to me ? I am sorry I do not understand well what you trying to say. What I said about LHO was that if he were part of a conspiracy he fired just one shot, if he act alone with 3 or 4 shots from the window he would be caught by the crowd, therefore he was not on the 6th floor, then he would not be the lone shooter. Nobody knows who was on the 6th floor window. It has been proved that LHO did not have enough time to buy a Coke at 2nd floor in 1.5 min. w/elevator out.
Verdelufe 8 months ago
@Verdelufe Its standard operating procedure to have two or more sharpshooters for high value targets. I was a sniper in Vietnam. So where did all those shots come from then? Ever see the video of about 50 people running to the grassy knoll and pointing?
Stillwater900 7 months ago
@Stillwater900 Go to " Lee Bowers witness men in uniforms" + 3 videos proving. If you are a deep believer in a lone assassin you probably will LOL or do Mockery, there is nothing I can do about it. Those are the real facts.
Verdelufe 7 months ago
@Verdelufe Dude I'm agreeing with you. It wasn't just Bowers, there was a bunch of people that saw the two men, all giving the same story
Stillwater900 7 months ago
@Stillwater900 You are a straight shooter, see facts, analyse, unaffraid and deliver an opinion. Very hard to find a dude like you in the JFK assassination case.
Verdelufe 7 months ago
@Verdelufe Well thank you : ]
Stillwater900 7 months ago
i don't understand this guy's conclusion. the wall is 5 feet; about 2-3 feet of the figure is sticking up over the top of the wall, but he concludes the guy is 2' 8" tall? it seems to me that he was standing on a chair behind the wall. what am i missing here?
mokamo23 9 months ago
The best evidence of a hidden shooter is still frame #413 from the Zapruder film. Funny how no one discusses the most obvious and convincing piece of evidence any longer--not even in the two-hour documentaries for the Discovery and History channels and what-have-you. In fact, it's difficult to find the image on the internet. Try searching for it, and you'll see what I mean. Odd, isn't it?
jannyrcobs 9 months ago
@jannyrcobs With all due respect at 413 Jackie was on top of the limo trunk, 100 frames had passed since the last shot. Do you still believes the shooter would be hanging in there all this time, I know someone mentioned at the video you are talking about a rifle mixed with short branches from the bush, I would suggest you
GET OVER IT !!! SNAP OUT OF IT !!!
Verdelufe 9 months ago
@jannyrcobs How do you explain the forensic report from the HSCA that says there is no medical evidence to support theories the president was shot from the front or side?
How do you explain that nobody saw anyone shooting at the president from the grassy knoll?
How do you explain that Lee Bowers, who had the best view of the grassy knoll area didn't see anyone firing form the knoll and didn't see anyone leave after the shooting?
How do you explain the particulate matter from the head shot all
autoad 9 months ago
@jannyrcobs moving forward covering John and Nellie Connolly and the two Secret Service agents?
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad there were no bullet fragments found in the car, LBJ ordered the car to be cleaned before any inspection could be performed. kinda weird how he is interested in how clean the car is instead of his wounded president...
there were more than one shooter, nearly 20 years later 2 spent bullet casings were found under an air vent on the county records building. who goes shooting a gun on a building on a bust street?
zekefender 9 months ago
@zekefender There were a number of bullet fragments found inside the presidential limo. Some were ballistically matched to LHO rifle to the exclusion of al other rifles. Other fragments were analyzed by Dr. Vincent Guinn using a neutron activation process that determines the composition of bullets and bullet fragments. The fragments showed the bullet to be comprised of metals from the Western Cartridge Company. This was the same ammo that LHO used the day he shot JFK.
autoad 9 months ago
@zekefender Your claim of LBJ having the car washed before there was evidence collected is wrong.
If there was more than one shooter you're going to have to prove it. Two spent bullet casings is interesting but falls way short of proving anything. Can you;
1.Pin-point the exact position of the shooter or shooters?
2.Identify the weapon the other shooter used?
3.Identify the ammo used?
4.Identify the entry wounds and match their characteristics to the ammo?
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad how is the car being washed wrong?
can you tell me i want to hear your opinion.
and the exact points are unknown to everyone but the proof of the spent shell casings is a fact.
the weapon can not be determined considering many different guns can fire the same ammo.
its hard to identify the entry wounds considering that the dallas doctors and Bethesda have different pictures, stories, and intentions during the autopsy.
thank you for your input i like hearing what others think
zekefender 9 months ago
@zekefender Then there's no case for another shooter. If there's no evidence someone else was shooting at the president, why are we looking for one? You may as well look for a shooter on the moon.
I'll take your word there were shell casings found. But what is that evidence of in the JFK assassination?
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad the why did kennedys head go back and to the left, instead of forward?
the exit wound of a bullet is always bigger than the entry wound. its just physics.given that information why was the back of kennedys head blown out while only a knuckle size hole in the front?
oswald didnt even know he was taken into custody for the presidents assassination, he thought he was taken in for killing a cop. he first heard of being accused as the assassin from the reporters. if not him who? 2nd shooter
zekefender 9 months ago
@zekefender The "back and to the left" is generally believed to be a neuromuscular reaction to the trauma the brain experienced from the 3rd shot. What it is not is a physical reaction of him being shot from the front or side. A bullet will not move the head of a person with that kind of force when they're shot. The average human head will move aprox. 2 inches when struck with a full metal jacket round. Look carefully at frames 313-314 of the Zapruder film. JFK's head moves forward about 2"
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad The spray of brain matter, skull bone fragments, and blood and the physics of projectile motion disagree. In addition, one must consider the random absence of several vital pieces of evidence, such as Kennedy's brain, which may have offered more insight into the injuries.
apollonius1994 9 months ago
@apollonius1994 The bullet fragments in the brain were plotted and tested via the neutron activation process. The brain came into possession of Bobby Kennedy who had it buried with his JFK's remains when the casket was moved to its present day location. The physical, medical and ballistic evidence are in agreement with each other that the president was struck from behind. There appears to be an insistence that there MUST be a gunman to the front or side of JFK. Yet there is ZERO evidence to
autoad 9 months ago
@apollonius1994 support that desire. We may have the best of intentions hoping, wanting, needing, demanding that there be a shooter to the front or side of JFK. But if there is ZERO evidence supporting that passion, we're wasting our time chasing gunmen that are creatures of our imagination.
autoad 9 months ago
@zekefender when he was struck from behind. The particulate matter from the 3rd shot moves forward. The spray of the matter covered John and Nelie Connolly and Secret Service agents Greer and Kellerman. The bullet fragments from the 3rd shot were forward of JFK. The forensic evidence shows JFK was shot in the back of the head and the exit wound was to his upper right portion of the scull. The back of JFK's head was not blown out. The medical staff at Parkland said it "looked" like it was. But
autoad 9 months ago
@zekefender nobody in the ER performed an examination of the wounds. They were focused on trying to save his life. They never turned JFK over because if they did they would have seen the wound to his back. Dr. Michael Baden, the pathologist who lead the team of 8 other pathologists for the HSCA believes that what the ER people saw was brain matter and fluid oozing from the side of his head and it ran down to the back of his head giving the appearance of a wound to the back of the head.
autoad 9 months ago
@zekefender LHO was taken into custody at the Texas Theater for the shooting of Office Tippit. You can't state what Oswald was thinking. Nobody is privy to the thoughts of another person. He became a suspect in the killing of the president after he has been taken into police custody.
You keep repeating the possibility of another shooter. But there's no evidence of a 2nd shooter. There's no physical, ballistic or medical evidence anyone other than LHO had shot at the president.
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad There was an autopsy analysis that saw a shot that corresponded with a direction from the right and front of Kennedy, and one shot on the acoustical tape was recorded a mere 0.44 seconds after another shot. I'm sure Oswald's rifle can't shoot that fast :) In addition, there were phony "Secret Service agents" in the Grassy Knoll following the assassination, while all real agents followed the motorcade to the Hospital. Furthermore, the angular spray of brain tissue/matter agrees with this.
apollonius1994 9 months ago
@apollonius1994 There is no autopsy report that declares JFK was shot from the front or side. The acoustical tape was examined by the National Academy of Sciences and they said there are no gunshots on the recording. The scientists who testified to the HSCA claiming the shots were recorded made some significant assumptions when making their report. They claimed the recording was made by the microphone on HB McClain's motorcycle.And they said they could identify the location he'd have to be to
autoad 9 months ago
@apollonius1994 record the shots. They said he'd be at the intersection of Houston and Elm. He wasn't. He was 170 feet away at he corner of Main and Houston. The acoustic evidence is null and void.
If there were phony Secret Service agents in Dealey Plaza, what does that prove and what does it have to do with the angle of the spray of the particulate matter?
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad "If there were phony Secret Service agents in Dealey Plaza, what does that prove and what does it have to do with the angle of the spray of the particulate matter?"
thats what i thought sorry to but in, i agree with you regarding the evidence but i still think there was a conspiracy....continue.
gyoussef 9 months ago
@gyoussef A conspiracy between who?
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad well im not your typical conspiracy cook and i dont believe in most especially ones involving "Phony secret service agents" and other spooky dudes. I do agree with you regarding the evidence and that LHO did it. but i think his hand was pushed by the MOB.
gyoussef 9 months ago
@gyoussef That's interesting you believe the Mob had a hand in the assassination.
How did you arrive at that opinion?
autoad 9 months ago
@autoad Well JFK's dad had Mob connections and after he got elected his brother betrayed them and went after them. They deported Mob boss Carlos Marcello who had ties to LHO and David Ferrie along with others. According to what I have seen Carlos was furios. There where also several threats prior to the dallas shooting alot of them having Mob connections. There is allot more too it then that I just don't have the space but i think the mob having a hand in this is cohesive and makes sense to me.
gyoussef 9 months ago