However, you publicly stating that you have a problem with God's Scripture stating that?? hmmm..... That sounds like a personal problem. God is the Supreme Being of this world and His Bible is the Final Law. If you don't believe that, I am terribly sorry to hear sir. That is like saying that a blue sky is red.... no.... its blue. It is what it is sir.
@r3razz "God is the Supreme Being of this world and His Bible is the Final Law.” - there are a few claims you will need to demonstrate as true. Up to the task?
"That is like saying that a blue sky is red.... no.... its blue.” - Looking out the window I can empirically verify the sky is in fact blue. Great, we agree based on verifiable data. Now, where is this god you speak of?
Lol... He's the one that crossed the lines??! The Bible does say that. He is saying what the Bible says. You can post these pictures and act like he actually believes in beating his wife and forcing submission, but people that know him knows that is not what he believes. He just believes that the man has the final say so on decisions. Just like every group needing a leader and a final say so, so does the family. God called the man for that. Thats all. cont'd....
@r3razz Yes - the Bible does say these things. That’s the entire point! This is NOT a book any decent person should be getting their morals from. Thanks for proving my point.
I am shocked! SHOCKED I tell you! A pastor turned out to be a total hypocrite, blustering tough talk but then hiding behind DMCA claims to suppress any criticism?
people need to realize the bible is nothing then a lie from the desert. It was written by false visionaries who wanted to get followers so they could have an army of brainwashed fools at there disposal. Luckly the roman empire got a hold of them before they could get far at that time. The Romans killed Jesus and his followers for a reason. (that's if he even existed) Then years later the world finds the words of these cult leaders and read about a few good teachings and waste there lives.
Schapps verbal loggorhea is out there for anyone to see and comment on, so this only serves to prove either his lack of knowledge about what is going on in his "church house" (presumably, some worker drone at his church issued the DMCA without Schapp knowing) or his flappability over what others think of him (if he, personally, knew of or issued the DMCA). This fact also needs to be circulated.
@achtungcircus He claims that it would be fair use if people didn't know about the ToS of the site, which he linked in his response. It might be a slam dunk for them--I don't know, I'm nowhere close to being an intellectual property lawyer. I can at least understand his justification for filing the DMCA.
He did mention a secondary motivation for filing the DMCA, which I found more interesting: he said that people were taking Schaap's sermons out of context. I asked him to....(continued)
@achtungcircus (continued)...explain the discrepancy between Schaap's exclamations of not caring about being politically correct, and privately acting in a manner to prevent people from getting the "wrong idea" from Schaap's sermons. Seems to me like ol' Jack wants any kind of publicity. Hopefully the guy gets back to me on that today; he fired off a response in only two hours, so I'm hopeful that he answers my questions. If he does, I've got a video to make!
An acquaintance told me it was extremely important that her man be head of the household. Shocked, I quickly changed the subject, as I thought she may be like the woman at 0:15, only worse.
Schaap explained what "harelips" meant in the immediately following sentence: "I don't care if it bothers everybody from the White House, or the old man sitting on the outhouse."
It's an old Southern expression. A "harelip" is an archaic term for a cleft palate, in reference to the shape of a hare's mouth. The belief was that a mother who had been visited by the devil would give birth to a baby with a cleft palate. In other words, the phrase means, "I don't care who is troubled by it."
@askegg I didn't know that until I Googled it. I always assumed it meant to put another person's face in a frown...close enough to the real explanation, I suppose...
Oh those Christians. They are all about suppressing any criticism of God, their Church, and their theology. They have been suppressing truth for 2000 years and are quite good at it. But little by little people are starting to see what a fraud Christianity is. The light of intelligent discussion will soon bring Christianity to its "Last Days."
All the christian cults that I've ever dealt with have all been about control of the masses. And this jack schaap is just another controlling master of his sheeple.
omgee...i just realized what churches he is affiliated with.used to listen to a local baptist radio back in my day, and hyles college was often on there, i think they owned the station or something.i tried going to the church site to post a comment about this and i can only submit my email address...what a coward this jerk is.
There is something else you may find interesting, they erected a bronze statue of the late pastor Bill Hyles. My guess is that while preaching hell fire and woman get in the kitchen sermons they forgot about that whole exodus 20 passage.
My sister actually attended the college associated with this church. This place seemed rather creepy to me even when I was a christian. They had a youth meeting where at the end of it all they had a very gruesome presentation of ati-abortion pictures of aborted fetuses. They are most notorious for their "bus ministry" where they bring children from all over the Chicago-land area to Hammond for church.
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Let me know if YouTube give you any nonsense about being "unable" to process your counter notification or if you don't receive an acknowledgement of receipt at all. Don't let that stop you, and there are ways to light a fire under their backsides.
I attended a Baptist wedding two yrs ago with my freethinking teen kids. They were very upset to hear this come out of the pastor's mouth;
"A husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the Church. He has the God-given responsibility to provide for, to protect, and to lead his family. A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the leadership of Christ."
In his video, you can clearly see his fellow pastors smiling and chuckling along with his rant ... methinks this was nervous laughter, and inwardly they were thinking "shut the fuck up,... we've got to answer for you, .. you fuckwit"!!!
I'm travelling at the moment, without means of down- and upload that video, but I hope many others are. I saw the video before it went down. Even if they claim copyright, there was nothing in it that doesn't fall under the fair use usage. At the moment you think DMCA's is a thing of the past, it shows its ugle head once again. Free speech ftw!
What a douchebag. If he's not afraid of what he's said, then he should leave the video up. After all, it helps spread The Word. Unless, of course, he's a lying little turd.
So.... he doesn't care... but he does care enough for him to stop you from spreading his exact words and the scriptures and that you were actively doing what he wanted...
So... he's a lying, sexist bag of shit. What do you know?
As an atheist I've been avoiding making videos about religious nut jobs almost religiously! Each time I see videos being flagged, DMCA'd etc it just makes me want to avoid getting into any banter with these fundie f... t...ds. I admire your stance but understand you will not be re-uploading this particular video ( which I saw and my blood was boiling ) However please keep up the good work - we all enjoy a good Askegg post!
@askegg IIRC, if they do not respond within 14 days you get to re-upload the video, right? As much as I'd want them to just do nothing, I hope they do respond. It should be interesting for Schaap to try to explain to a judge why is he demanding a takedown if he is so clearly indicating in the video he wants people to spread it far and wide.
However, you publicly stating that you have a problem with God's Scripture stating that?? hmmm..... That sounds like a personal problem. God is the Supreme Being of this world and His Bible is the Final Law. If you don't believe that, I am terribly sorry to hear sir. That is like saying that a blue sky is red.... no.... its blue. It is what it is sir.
r3razz 4 months ago
@r3razz "God is the Supreme Being of this world and His Bible is the Final Law.” - there are a few claims you will need to demonstrate as true. Up to the task?
"That is like saying that a blue sky is red.... no.... its blue.” - Looking out the window I can empirically verify the sky is in fact blue. Great, we agree based on verifiable data. Now, where is this god you speak of?
askegg 4 months ago 2
@r3razz Keep your scumbag god. He hasnt the moral values of a good person.
MrJohnnyrace 1 month ago
Lol... He's the one that crossed the lines??! The Bible does say that. He is saying what the Bible says. You can post these pictures and act like he actually believes in beating his wife and forcing submission, but people that know him knows that is not what he believes. He just believes that the man has the final say so on decisions. Just like every group needing a leader and a final say so, so does the family. God called the man for that. Thats all. cont'd....
r3razz 4 months ago
@r3razz Yes - the Bible does say these things. That’s the entire point! This is NOT a book any decent person should be getting their morals from. Thanks for proving my point.
askegg 4 months ago
So one woman makes a mistake and the rest of us have to suffer for it? Quite frankly, this makes no logical sense.
MarieAntoinette333 7 months ago
i'm going to the link right now.
peace, lardo444.
lardo444 9 months ago
I am shocked! SHOCKED I tell you! A pastor turned out to be a total hypocrite, blustering tough talk but then hiding behind DMCA claims to suppress any criticism?
DeistPaladin 10 months ago 2
people need to realize the bible is nothing then a lie from the desert. It was written by false visionaries who wanted to get followers so they could have an army of brainwashed fools at there disposal. Luckly the roman empire got a hold of them before they could get far at that time. The Romans killed Jesus and his followers for a reason. (that's if he even existed) Then years later the world finds the words of these cult leaders and read about a few good teachings and waste there lives.
MrFakegods 10 months ago
The Fundamentalists work for Satan
ManNorthern 10 months ago
The Bible was written by Satan.
ManNorthern 10 months ago
God is a woman.
ManNorthern 10 months ago
Zee Bible ist Babble.
ManNorthern 10 months ago
Schapps verbal loggorhea is out there for anyone to see and comment on, so this only serves to prove either his lack of knowledge about what is going on in his "church house" (presumably, some worker drone at his church issued the DMCA without Schapp knowing) or his flappability over what others think of him (if he, personally, knew of or issued the DMCA). This fact also needs to be circulated.
RyuDarragh 10 months ago
I attempted to email the church a link to my mirror (under the name Barbra Streisand).
It was not accepted. ???
achtungcircus 10 months ago
@achtungcircus Funny, I emailed them about it and the media department guy got back to me.
JBSauce 10 months ago
@JBSauce What did he have to say?
achtungcircus 10 months ago
@achtungcircus He claims that it would be fair use if people didn't know about the ToS of the site, which he linked in his response. It might be a slam dunk for them--I don't know, I'm nowhere close to being an intellectual property lawyer. I can at least understand his justification for filing the DMCA.
He did mention a secondary motivation for filing the DMCA, which I found more interesting: he said that people were taking Schaap's sermons out of context. I asked him to....(continued)
JBSauce 10 months ago
@achtungcircus (continued)...explain the discrepancy between Schaap's exclamations of not caring about being politically correct, and privately acting in a manner to prevent people from getting the "wrong idea" from Schaap's sermons. Seems to me like ol' Jack wants any kind of publicity. Hopefully the guy gets back to me on that today; he fired off a response in only two hours, so I'm hopeful that he answers my questions. If he does, I've got a video to make!
JBSauce 10 months ago
An acquaintance told me it was extremely important that her man be head of the household. Shocked, I quickly changed the subject, as I thought she may be like the woman at 0:15, only worse.
shiningpaths 10 months ago
Schaap explained what "harelips" meant in the immediately following sentence: "I don't care if it bothers everybody from the White House, or the old man sitting on the outhouse."
It's an old Southern expression. A "harelip" is an archaic term for a cleft palate, in reference to the shape of a hare's mouth. The belief was that a mother who had been visited by the devil would give birth to a baby with a cleft palate. In other words, the phrase means, "I don't care who is troubled by it."
JBSauce 10 months ago
@JBSauce Thank you for the explanation. I have heard of harelips, but did not realise it had theological roots.
askegg 10 months ago
@askegg I didn't know that until I Googled it. I always assumed it meant to put another person's face in a frown...close enough to the real explanation, I suppose...
JBSauce 10 months ago
Jack Schaap has just made it on to my list of reprehensibly detrimental influences on the species.
GermanChocolateCake 10 months ago
Oh those Christians. They are all about suppressing any criticism of God, their Church, and their theology. They have been suppressing truth for 2000 years and are quite good at it. But little by little people are starting to see what a fraud Christianity is. The light of intelligent discussion will soon bring Christianity to its "Last Days."
ebaltrace 10 months ago
All the christian cults that I've ever dealt with have all been about control of the masses. And this jack schaap is just another controlling master of his sheeple.
mrblacksheep1o1 10 months ago
user/fbchammondin
whisperingdoom 10 months ago
Do you know where this preacher lives? I'd like to pay him a visit and make him suffer in the name of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, the one true god!
XxC0NDEMNEDxX 10 months ago
@XxC0NDEMNEDxX: No. Just send the Jehovas Witnesses to his house.
RyuDarragh 10 months ago
@RyuDarragh That's even worse.
XxC0NDEMNEDxX 10 months ago
omgee...i just realized what churches he is affiliated with.used to listen to a local baptist radio back in my day, and hyles college was often on there, i think they owned the station or something.i tried going to the church site to post a comment about this and i can only submit my email address...what a coward this jerk is.
practicalmagic9 10 months ago
Sick Bastard....
seeker6789 10 months ago
That vid is all over the place..... its not surprising that someone like him would bark loudly to preserve the mock place of authority he has.
Calypso1138 10 months ago
There is something else you may find interesting, they erected a bronze statue of the late pastor Bill Hyles. My guess is that while preaching hell fire and woman get in the kitchen sermons they forgot about that whole exodus 20 passage.
270Chicago 10 months ago
My sister actually attended the college associated with this church. This place seemed rather creepy to me even when I was a christian. They had a youth meeting where at the end of it all they had a very gruesome presentation of ati-abortion pictures of aborted fetuses. They are most notorious for their "bus ministry" where they bring children from all over the Chicago-land area to Hammond for church.
270Chicago 10 months ago
A priest that doesn´t like his words being known.
Who would have thunk..
nekedemus 10 months ago 2
Clearly, he was rattled, unnerved, and worried.
TheOtherSide100 10 months ago
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4Zook44 10 months ago
We will fight them on the like button, we will fight them on the homage on flagging and in the comments... We will never surrender.
POLO2941 10 months ago
i thought the pope was suppose to be the voice of god not this self righteousing woman oppresser?
AceofDiamonds0 10 months ago
Let me know if YouTube give you any nonsense about being "unable" to process your counter notification or if you don't receive an acknowledgement of receipt at all. Don't let that stop you, and there are ways to light a fire under their backsides.
rozeboosje 10 months ago 7
@rozeboosje I have heard you are the man to talk to :)
askegg 10 months ago
I think you'll like my version of the mirror...
SiriusMined 10 months ago
I've mirrored it!
mythinktube 10 months ago
I attended a Baptist wedding two yrs ago with my freethinking teen kids. They were very upset to hear this come out of the pastor's mouth;
"A husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the Church. He has the God-given responsibility to provide for, to protect, and to lead his family. A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the leadership of Christ."
Sad stuff to hear.
saxmanchiro 10 months ago
schaap means sheep in dutch
robinvan1983 10 months ago
You really should counter claim the hypercritical sob
mythinktube 10 months ago
In his video, you can clearly see his fellow pastors smiling and chuckling along with his rant ... methinks this was nervous laughter, and inwardly they were thinking "shut the fuck up,... we've got to answer for you, .. you fuckwit"!!!
bonnie43uk 10 months ago
'Schaap' sounds like Vicky Pollard saying 'Shut up'. :)
AuntieDiluvian 10 months ago
Sounds like he needs to bend over and be given a good Striesanding.
Danmill23 10 months ago
Dude I LOL'd that you put "fucking" and "pigs" in the tags!
TheD0ded0de 10 months ago
I'm travelling at the moment, without means of down- and upload that video, but I hope many others are. I saw the video before it went down. Even if they claim copyright, there was nothing in it that doesn't fall under the fair use usage. At the moment you think DMCA's is a thing of the past, it shows its ugle head once again. Free speech ftw!
TheLittleDonkey 10 months ago
Fortunately i saw it when you first put it up... and had a good laugh at how ignorant the dude was. Keep up the good work.
MegaToddTodd 10 months ago
What a douchebag. If he's not afraid of what he's said, then he should leave the video up. After all, it helps spread The Word. Unless, of course, he's a lying little turd.
rrward 10 months ago 2
Jack Schapp, alligator mouth, butterfly ass. Can I get an amen?
mcrd2001 10 months ago
Another Christian liar - imagine my surprise.
Orsbore 10 months ago
So.... he doesn't care... but he does care enough for him to stop you from spreading his exact words and the scriptures and that you were actively doing what he wanted...
So... he's a lying, sexist bag of shit. What do you know?
sonic8005 10 months ago
You should counter-file under fair use!
Nilsy1975 10 months ago
I found a copy and saved it if anybody wants it let me know
Dudeamis 10 months ago
@Dudeamis I would love to have a copy but please see my comment below.
flyingfisbeefilms 10 months ago
@Dudeamis
I would like to see it. Where did you find it? Is it still online at another site?
BadScienceForFools 10 months ago
@BadScienceForFools I can point you in the right direction. Just PM me, or follow on Twitter (I am such a whore)
askegg 10 months ago
As an atheist I've been avoiding making videos about religious nut jobs almost religiously! Each time I see videos being flagged, DMCA'd etc it just makes me want to avoid getting into any banter with these fundie f... t...ds. I admire your stance but understand you will not be re-uploading this particular video ( which I saw and my blood was boiling ) However please keep up the good work - we all enjoy a good Askegg post!
Kind regards from sunny France.
James.
flyingfisbeefilms 10 months ago
You can't silence the truth with censorship.
Requiemxtoxinnocence 10 months ago
" I guess the word of god is deeply embarrassing at times."
I agree.
saintpine 10 months ago 43
Jackass schaap puts me in mind of the westboro baptist church.
preptimenow 10 months ago
Whatever happened to him wanting to get "God's word" out?! Are you going to counterfile?
DarkMatter2525 10 months ago 19
@DarkMatter2525 I am seriously considering a counter claim.
askegg 10 months ago 17
@askegg
Do it. Otherwise the mirrors might alll be taken down
SiriusMined 10 months ago 7
@SiriusMined After considering the risks, I have lodged a counter DCMA claim. The ball is now in their court.
askegg 10 months ago 33
@askegg
Good.
SiriusMined 10 months ago
@askegg We will fight them on the beaches!
BornInAsphodelMeadow 10 months ago
@askegg IIRC, if they do not respond within 14 days you get to re-upload the video, right? As much as I'd want them to just do nothing, I hope they do respond. It should be interesting for Schaap to try to explain to a judge why is he demanding a takedown if he is so clearly indicating in the video he wants people to spread it far and wide.
AntoniusMisfit 10 months ago