The Real Jesus (DVD): Myth #4 (6 of 10)

[NeoLeaver]

.....Even if one accepts that Christ says he is the Messiah prophesised in the OT, it dosn't validate OT or any of its highly questionable ideas. For me there is such a dichotomy between the character and teachings of Christ and the God of he OT, that I am of the belief that it was 'linked' to him later by the likes of Peter, Paul and those that followed to make it more palletable to 1st century Jews. Why is a man of the Royal line of Judah thru Solomon and David a 'jobbing carpenter'?

[NeoLeaver]

Just to be clear, I'm not a Christian by any stretch of the imagination, however I have read the bible quite extensively. Its a genuinely fascinating read. To be fair to christians I cant find a single thing Christ says in the gospels that even in the modern word with all its social sensitivities that would be deemed morally questionable. I would also say there is nothing he says that a compassionate mortal couldn't conceptualise or indeed teach. Show me where he says 'I am God on earth'.....

[beeeefcurtains]

@NeoLeaver Do you think threats of infinite torment for finite crimes, maintaining the status quo no matter how horrendous the conditions, and breaking natural laws to impress his friends are moral? That's only the tip of the iceberg. Turning the other cheek is neither wise nor honorable. Should we just turn the other cheek to murders and tyrants? What good would that bring? The only thing that can make such a moral code good is something as unreasonable as heaven and hell.

[NeoLeaver]

Oh and Jesus famously ageed with the pharisees, come on , give me a break, you're scraping the barrel here man.

[bortelliM]

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[1JOHN5v20]

1John5v20 "And we know that the Son of God is come,& hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true,& we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the TRUE GOD, & eternal life".

1Timothy 3:16 "God was manifest in the flesh"

Titus 2:13 "Looking for that blessed hope,& the glorious appearing of the great God & our Saviour Jesus Christ"

Hebrew 1:8 God the Father calls his Son God "Thy throne,O God, is for ever..."

[Tonithenightowl]

Not according to Jews. God is not a man and man does not become God. God is spirit. Isaiah 54 speaks of Israel not a man. Pagans believed man could be God, Jews did not. Why should they? There was a history of man/gods. Egyptian, Greek,Roman. Jewish messiah will not be divine, and will not die in his mission. Did God mislead the Jews? Jesus said why call me good?

[tepperway]

who said that jesus is telling the truth. he could of lied to trick the world. i beleave in GOD not jesus. every body is worried about jesus..... smh.... GOD dont like that.... yall kno that aswell as i do.

[Terrybob123]

when jesus reffers to himself as the son of man, he is not saying that he is just a man and not god, jesus does not contradict himself. he says that he is god, elohim. when he reffers to the son of man, he is comparing his purpose as to that of the prophet Ezekiel. read Ezekiel chapter 2 and you'll understand what he is meaning. same as when jesus says " my god, my god, why has thou forsaken me?" he is reffering to psalms 22, which prophesied of his death. read your bible!!!

[TheFassold]

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

thats the word of god but wait tho shall not kill, oh thats right there property .

bible contradiction , there is no go god

and go see a shrink

[believerintheword]

It is clear as crystal that Jesus is God. In the Old and New Testement. It is so obvious you cant get around it.

[muslim9x9x]

There is no passage in the OT that explicitly says the Anointed is divine:

Psalm 20:6

Now know I that the LORD saveth his anointed; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand. (Heb. 5:7)

Psalm 28:8

The LORD is their strength, and he is the saving strength of his anointed.

Psalm 84:9

Behold, O God our shield, and look upon the face of thine anointed.

Psalm 132:17

There will I make the horn of David to bud: I have ordained a lamp for mine anointed.

[LIlSJ16]

Wake up, Have you all Been Decieved ? —2nd John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist."

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son —1st John 2:22

[realmofblood]

Jesus is the best man alive.

[4061926]

Sure .............

[SmalltimR]

The trinity is in nowhere to be found within the covers of the bible. It is a manifestation of world religions no more no less.

I find it highly suspect that secular religions use the term(trinity) as some authoritative standard as if it were biblical.

When we all know It is not.

[snaebjorn53]

I think Christ Jesus made it perfectly clear to his disciples in John: "Before Abraham was, I am" I am the living bread which comes down from Heaven", "he who has me has seen my father", "I and my father are one", "I am the truth and the light" However, in the Philippians he renounced his divine state as to be man. Philippians 2:5-11 "The Humbled and Exalted Christ" Great series, thank you.

[daveme7]

Not sure what you mean by renouncing his divine state as I tend to see VChrist in the hypostatic union i.e. 100% of man and 100% God.

On the other-very good and am not sure ih this is emphasized enough in theological circles...To use the name of Jehovah which was so sacred Jews dare not utter this name as to profabne God with sinful lips-when Christ not only stated the name of Jehova which would see anyone else be stoned but claimed this title for himself

[ITubeUDecide]

@snaebjorn53 "before Abraham was, I am!" [John 8:58]

"I am" is the term used to identify God to Moses, peace be upon him.

New Testament BIBLE

"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah anything but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) A Messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not ‘trinity’: desist." [Noble Quran 4:171]

Thanks

[semajgnik]

@ITubeUDecide did u just quote the Quran ? lol

 what does islam have to do with any of this? the Quran contradicts the Bible, its not talking about the same God at all. Allah is not Yahweh.

[therighttobefree]

@ITubeUDecide its not a trinity but that God revealed himself 1 as God the Creator through the prophets even through the burning bush 2 the Holy spirit is the life force that causes all things to breath live move upon the earth 3 he appeared in human form as Jesus they are not 3 but 1 the same God that gives you breath of life the Creator of all is the Holy Spirit & God chose to visit himself directly on earth to man in form of jesus the prohets were to prepare and warn man of his coming in form

[EndTimeDelusion1]

Make sure you watch eric holmberg's hells bells 2 as well, it's excellent.

[bluesbeats]

regardless of the story being true or not it succeded and that was the whole objective, for it to live on forever , like Islam . They succeed

[klycx]

great exposition on the truth!

[idsman75]

Thank you for bringing this to as many people as possible through this venue. This is great stuff!

[CooFrank]

Great video.