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  • Awwwwwwwwwwww... Martin is all upset because Lisa called out the TRUTH regarding is beloved sarah...

    But really you might be right, sarah's intellect is so far ahead of our times... she speaks in verbal hieroglyphics that may take centuries for archaeologists to translate just how superior and smart she really is.

    Oh just so you don't get all excited Martin- that's called SARCASM!

  • He lacks a deeper understanding of situations. But it's better not to get into a conversation with someone once they have identified themselves as a troll. He is right. I mistyped my first post. But the meaning was the same.

  • So Murkowski basically said Palin is to stupid to be president....well no shit she is. And Martin, what your basically saying is that the average joe is smarter than a man who graduated from Harvard? i dont quite see how that works.

    Oh here come the conspiracy theories, what happened on 9/11? what happened at OK city?

  • @orbitalshock1 Well if you really look st some of the Obama policies, that can be justifiable. It's embarrassing to go to Asain right now after the Obama begging tour. BUy our products so you recover our economy so in turn we can reconver the world economy. People there were laughing at him behind the scenes. There comes a time when you realize somebody dosen't know what their doing. Asia has figured that out. In fact they knew it long ago. Partisan talk dumbs down your thinking in general

  • @kungfooed Well something tells me the Mccain/ Palin admin would have had any better luck, just to be fair. The POTUS isnt really a job you can prepare for. but something tells me, if obama's struggling with it now, palin would have resigned long ago, just like she did when she was governor.

  • @orbitalshock1 Government involvement..

  • @orbitalshock1 Part of the problem is basic common sense, which seems to be lacking from your comments as well. If you sat down with Mrs. Palin, I have no doubt that you, in your simplicity, would be stunned as to the intellect and ability this lady has. What amazes me is the lack of intelligence the average voter showed in this last election. Obammy who has ZERO ability and ZERO experience anywhere with anything was voted in because he could read a teleprompter.

  • @Drumboy5165 Where did my comment lack common sense? so, not voting for Sarah Palin was a lack of intelligence? At least Obama didnt quit half ways through his term unlike someone else we know. Palin has experience being a governor of the smallest place in the country for half a term.

  • @orbitalshock1 Your comment is based on lies and deceptions that can be immediately traced to the likes of CNN and MSNBC, quite pathetic. I do think that not voting for her shows a marked lack of ability to discern experiecne from no experience. You were OK with Hillary quiting to run, just not a Conservative? Obammy never voted on over 90% of the items he was supposed to as a Senator..90%? WTF? FYI, Alaska is the only state with an active 24/7 military, has more oil business that 48 states.

  • @Drumboy5165 what did i say that was based on lies from the liberal media? Sarah Palin= experience & intelligence? what does alaska having a highly active military have to do with anything?

  • @Drumboy5165

    Im sorry you must be confused Hillary didn't quit she was appointed to a Presidential Cabinet position not a reality show.

    Obama never voted 90% of the time another made up statistic sorry.

    Alaska does have a missile defense system in place but it is under the command of the Pacific Command Center not the Governor.

    And Alaska does produce a lot of oil? So What?

    Alaska is the largest State in area but over 30 cities have larger populations than the State of Alaska.

    Damn them Facts

  • @ImWilson1 In the end, Mr. Obama chose neither to vote for nor against the bill. He voted “present,” effectively sidestepping the issue, an option he invoked nearly 130 times as a state senator.

    I am sorry, I guess the voting record is just lying. Silly me!! The military of Alaska is under the direct control of the Alaskan Governor 24/7...oops! The facts are that millions of liberal dolts & RINO's voted for a man with ZERO experience and side stepped an active commander with experience, simple.

  • @Drumboy5165

    LOL In his years as a Illinois Senator he voted almost 4000 times so 130 is 90 percent? In congress as a State Senator as He missed 11 votes and cast 634 votes is that 90percent?

    Sorry but the if you are referring to the Alaska Defense Force then again you are incorrect there are 22 other States that have a State defense force.

    But if you are referring to the missile defense system it is under the command of the Pacific Command Center not the Governor.

    There go them facts again

  • @ImWilson1 ROFL, my ass he did! Make up your bullshit elsewhere tool.

    Barack Obama cast more than 300 votes during his time as a senator in the 109th and 110th Congresses of which 140 were cast as 'present'. Factcheckorg

  • @Drumboy5165

    LOL here is your link MORON.

    factcheck(dot)org/askfactcheck­/how_many_times_did_obama_vote­_present.html

    It was the Illinois Sate Senate he never voted present in the United States Senate.

    politifact(dot)com/truth-o-met­er/statements/2010/feb/08/sara­h-palin/palin-says-obama-voted­-present-us-senate-very-ofte/

    Why do you lie?

    Dude you really need to get a life you are now dismissed.

  • @ImWilson1 goddamn wilsons good.

  • @orbitalshock1 actually no he's not and neither are you......you're both just left wingers with blinders on........

  • @thepenrev the links wilson sent him had evidence which positively proved his points didnt they? someone made an argument and he refuted it with evidence that was factual. dont quite see what makes him and i so blind. and something tells me you in no position to question our intellect on pure substance.

  • @orbitalshock1 and is the largest state in the Union. Mrs. Palin quit due to the amount of false law suits being filed against her by liberal groups nationwide in which all of them proved to be frivolous and false, While she was governor these lawsuits had to be paid for by tax dollars where-as when she resigned they were immediately dropped by the liberal groups thus saving millions in tax dollars...something liberals love to raise and spend. Darn those facts.

  • @Drumboy5165 so she valiantly sacrificed herself to save the alaskan tax payer from evil liberal law suits? wow what a hero, what a champion of true american conservative values. Palin/ Beck 2012.

  • @orbitalshock1 Actually, she did something liberals will never understand, she did something right. She did the right thing at the right time for the right reasons. Haven't you ever wondered why Conservatives are called 'the right'?

  • @Drumboy5165 Just a thought but maybe Palin quit as the governor to pursue her now extremely lucrative career as a media contributer and conservative speaker. After all, she demands at least $100 k just to speak. I reject your idea that Sarah palin made a jesus-like sacrifice on behalf of the alaskan tax payer to stop "liberal" groups from sinking their economy.

    Conservatives lookout for the big guy up top. libs look out for the little guy at the bottom.

  • @orbitalshock1 Libs look out for nobody, they are guilt ridden little people who are the party of the rich numb nuts...look it up. Liberals are scum bags who think being a pedophile is OK, who let rapists and murderers out of prison because they feel guilty. Liberals have no spine to do what is necessary or right. The only thing liberals want is to destroy America and the decent hard working people who comprise it.

    Get bent you little piece of liberal trash.

  • @Drumboy5165 How can you say that "Libs look out for nobody" and then say libs are "party of the rich numb nuts"? wouldnt that mean that they DO look out for someone? and how can you be the "party of the rich numb nuts" yet be against tax cuts for the rich? how can liberals be out to destroy "decent hard working people who comprise" the coutnry when they in FACT want to lower taxes for them and extend unemployment benefits? your not making sense. didnt you say conservatives have common sense?

  • @orbitalshock1 Actually if you look at the bank rolls of your boys, the liberals, they are in the pockets of the bankers, corporations etc. so since they are the party of the rich, your argument hold ZERO water. When you talk about tax cuts for the rich, who pays the taxes in America? I'll give you the IRS stats..the top 15% pays 85% of all taxes. the middle class 35% pays 15% of the taxes. The bottom 50% pays ZERO and they get money back. So who pays taxes? Who should get tax cuts?

  • @Drumboy5165 both sides take corporate money, liberals take less from corporations so much as they do labor unions. i was coming at it from the standpoint of who needs the relief. even if you gave billionaires a tax cut, most bank there money, not spend it. opposed to middle class people who could use th money to buy things like groceries and etc to stimulate the economy. rich people who make jobs dont even make jobs in this country, they outsource our jobs overseas.

  • @orbitalshock1 Then lower the taxes on the 50% and up....not to the bozo's who don't as they get it all back in the end anyhow. I am so tired of all the artificial 'tax incentives' that mean nothing unless you buy something, ya know? It doesn't save you money unless you spend it, that's a sales gimmick and it doesn't work. If the government would cut the massive regulations we would see more of those jobs here and not overseas. I am against outsourcing btw and the unions are killing us. Peace.

  • @Drumboy5165 did you just call middle and lower class people "bozo's"? i thought conservatives looked out for the little guy. you want MORE de-regulation? geez why dont we just let the corporations just do whatever the hell they want?

  • @orbitalshock1 With that being said...since you obviously do not understand the tax system, the liberals you love do. They want the 'rich' taxed to pay for the people who pay no taxes. This is redistribution of wealth, socialism? Marxism? Communism? Which is it? The liberals do not want lower taxes numb nuts...where the hell do you think government money comes from? The magical money fairy that farts out sparkly dollas from butt heaven?

  • @Drumboy5165 well you guys have called us all of the above, marx, commun, mao, social, and fasc, -IST. i think you guys have called us everything in the book. all we think you guys are is......wrong. they seem to want lower taxes for the middle class, or at least theyve been saying that everyday for the past 4 months. maybe im crazy. conservatives want lower taxes for ALL, but as i said before, rich people do 2 things w/ there cash, save it, or spend it abroad.

  • @orbitalshock1 Horse crap!! I just said this to 'RealAmerican'...who creates the jobs? The middle class or lower class? Neither! The lower class pays NONE yet they get refunds from somewhere, the IRS stats must be wrong if the middle class pays 15% then, yet they get refunds as well? How many jobs have you created? I own a business and unfortunately ya'll think I'm rich. If I make 100k a year 45% of it is taken from me to give to someone who doesn't make it, that IS redistribution of my money.

  • @Drumboy5165 my barber woul disagree with you there. he is a middleclass guy with two stylist on his payroll. giving tax cuts to the rich wouldnt do anything to help this country because the businesses will only create jobs in other less developed where they can hire people for $2/h. it wouldnt stimulate the economy because rich people dont spend their money like middle class people do.

  • @Drumboy5165 Damn, orbit just used your own words against you. i think...he wins this round.

  • @RealAmerican91 I think not...he has no clue what the liberals even want and he is saying things that refer to Conservatives and applying them to liberals. The guy is an idiot.

  • @Drumboy5165 Well he DID use your words against you. he quoted you word for word. when did the (R)'s every give a shit about anything but Wars (which were are now in) and helping people who already got loads of cash (which they are trying to do)? he' not applying conservative idas to liberals. WTF you talkin bout? if the (D)'s tried to pass the bush taxcuts with only cuts for the middle class RIGHT NOW the (R)'s would vote NO because it doesnt include cuts for the rich. who are all they care 4.

  • @RealAmerican91 Actually the only words he used that were mine were 'numb nuts' and I quote that. That's a load of crap for real. Look at the stats on who pays taxes, since the 'rich' the 15% pays 85% of the taxes how are you going to give tax cuts to someone who does not pay taxes? Also, when did the middle to lower class ever create a job? Who creates jobs? Also, the bull about war is bull crap as well. The 'wars' were duly voted on by a Democrap Congress and it was 90+% yes votes, wtf?

  • @Drumboy5165 so your saying that you didnt say "Libs look out for nobody" or "party of the rich numb nuts" or "decent hard working people who comprise"? you dint say any of those things? must have been another Drumboy5165. by the way he just used your "bozo" word gainst you as well.

    Are you now saying that republicans dont take us to war? so i guess its not Bush's fault were at war in iraq and afghanistan, its Nancy Pelosi's?

  • @Drumboy5165 What was Palin's salary when she was the governor? Cause she makes $12 mill now. she also supports tax cuts for the wealthy. is that "the right thing"? lets give millionaires more moeny and hope they use it to make more jobs for us small folks at the bottom. it would also add $750 billion to the debt, how "fiscally conservative" is that?

  • @Drumboy5165 she went from like $500 k as the governor, to $12 mill writing books, working for fox, and being a mouthpiece for the tea party. doesnt sound like much of a sacrifice to me. if she were as high and mighty as you say she is, she'd give half of her wealthy back to alaska to conpensate for that money those"liberal" lawsuits cost them.

    I thought conservatives are the ones that love to waste tax dollars, on tax cuts for rich folks and wars.

  • @Drumboy5165 Murkowski was exactly right when she said Palin seemed as though she didnt like governing. (Resident dumbass) Gretchen Carlson went on fox and siad that she doesnt know where she could have got that ideafrom. Any guesses? how about the fact that SHE FUCKING QUIT HALF WAY THROUGH!!!

    On "Sarah Palins Alaska" she even says that she wouldnt want to be in "some politcal office" she'd "rather be out here being free". and loaded with cash apparently.

  • @orbitalshock1 You liberals are fooking morons. Did you get that? Morons, you couldn't see a forest through the trees because of your own self loathing guilt ridden, limp wristed, spineless bad feelings. Just because you'd be a scum bag, you expect others to be one too. Just because your life is filled with greed, contempt and hatred you expect others to feel that way . Before idiot liberals came around people actually did the right things. They sacrificed, something you'll never understand.

  • @Drumboy5165 well that didnt really answer any of my questions or refute any of my points. or make me feel bad about myself so i dont know why you just said that. can you say something more substantive please.

  • @orbitalshock1 As for the Average Joe versus Harvard part. A man with common sense but no degree is far more intelligent than any one of the liberal dolts that come out of Harvard today. The common man has experience, intellect and the ability to decipher the bull crap that people like Obammy, Emmanual and others feed them. Yet these people are called 'stupid' & 'uneducated'...well they have better educations than most Harvard grads.

  • @orbitalshock1

    Our new friend has made a new video and of course thepenrev is in it.

    watch?v=XaLMYkEu-xg

  • Then he says embarrasing stuff like the world does better when the US does better so you should buy our goods to get the economy going. That was about one of the stupidist things I've ever heard. It's their fault that he over spent in the last year and a half? His mind was stcuk on US domestic issues, he ran up debt to try to pay for it on the books. Now he wants people to follow his lead. Europe and most of Asia has already said no. He doesn't get it. That's intellecutal?

  • You know the issue here is people talking about intellectual curiosity, I have yet to find that Obama has it. He dosen't have the wisdom to lead to start with, and to be honest, his Asia tour shows it. I mean going to China to ask them to buy our goods when he knows they devalue the yuan just shows how ignorant or naive he is. Why would they do that? It would cost them more. Then he says they are being fair. No they aren't but they own about 20% of his debt so they hold the cards.

  • @kungfooed

    I am sorry you must have been misinformed. The Trade mission didn't go to China. But I am sure one of the morons you listen to on the radio said he did so that makes it true. So everything you said after China is made up.

    So which of the morons on radio do you get your news from?

  • @ImWilson1 Not the trade commision. He was saying that in S Korea. He has sent delegates to China several times trying to get them to stop devaluing their currency. And yes, he would like more trade opitons in China, but they don't want to while they hold US debt. S. Korea and Japan don't like his debt either. They want to see it lowered before they get into big business deals with the US. Talk to some Chinese businessmen.

  • @kungfooed

    LOL Really!

    Can we say squirm squirm?

    LOL

  • @ImWilson1 It's good to know the mind set of those who own your debt. Or at least part of it. I don't think that Obama does. China does want to see the US economy improve because then it means more products will be sold by them. They don't want to hear about needs for financing more debt. S Korea is in a wait and see mode. Japan is also. Obama might use inflation as a tactic. A bad idea though. He needs new ideas and less spending.

  • @kungfooed

    Squirm Squirm Squirm.

    You know I take all of your so called quotes and enter in LexisNexis and nothing comes up.

    Squirm Squirm Squirm.

  • @ImWilson1 What quotes? I quoted no one. I tell you the feeling of business people in Asia. You think they want to own US debt there? You are funny to me. But I guess you must be a fan of Obama so I understand. But no, Asia does not look forward to more US debt. That is general knowledge. They want to see it go down. There is no squirming about it.

  • @kungfooed

    LOL dude you sit there and make things up then try to squirm your way out if it just stop you only look foolish. LOL

    You said "He dosen't have the wisdom to lead to start with, and to be honest, his Asia tour shows it. I mean going to China to ask them to buy our goods when he knows they devalue the yuan just shows how ignorant or naive he is. Why would they do that?"

    He didn't go to China Squirm Squirm Squirm.

    Waa Waa Waa sorry try again.

  • @ImWilson1 "Even though Obama didn’t visit China on this trip, the country’s growing economic and diplomatic clout was underscored on each stop. Chinese officials rejected U.S. suggestions that the G-20 consider targets to rein in excessive current-account imbalances and criticized the Federal Reserve’s decision to pump $600 billion into the economy as an attempt to weaken the dollar." This was the situation on his trip which is a constant problem. He has no pressure with the US debt

  • @kungfooed

    LOL Squirm

    Now you need to footnote Bloomberg.

    Dude get a life.

  • @ImWilson1 You make me laugh. I don't hate Obama. I just know that Asia realizese he doesn't know what he's doing. If you like him fine. I'm just telling you what many people in Asia think. You can disagree if you want. I don't really care. 當您沒擁有芯片时,您不可能做規則。

    您可以咆哮您雖則要的所有。=)

  • @ImWilson1 He has sent reps to China over trade in the past and he was trying to talk about it again on this last trip. People there are not stupid. They know who he is talkinga about. There is no whinning to be had. But what Obama does is not China's business anyway. If he wants to inflate the econcomy with more dollars China may simply devalue their currency further. You do know more US businesses would like to tap the market there right? It is a rising economy with much potential.

  • @kungfooed

    Please get a life.

    When you get caught making up BS just be a man.

    Now stop Squirming it is very unbecoming.

  • @ImWilson1 LOL you are not so smart. You have very few facts. And I see now that it is you who squirms like the troll. I will block you now. This is no longer mature talk. It is the talk of school yard children. Good day.

  • @kungfooed sometimes i wonder if he's working for soros...hard to know...

  • @kungfooed

    Thank God

    I was getting tired.

    Have a nice life.

  • @ImWilson1 actually it is you who needs to get a life.........you blow smoke all the time and act like you know what you're talking about......sometimes you do...but at other times, you are simply carrying the dems water...

  • @thepenrev

    Really I need to fly out to LA in the Morning.

    Maybe i can stop in Colorado for awhile and we can talk.

    I don't claim to know everything. When i comment it isn't emotional commentary it is actual facts.

    I have no need to carry water (once again another Limbaugh reference) for anyone.

    For example there are 535 members of Congress and somehow you know everyone of them and they never held a real job.

    I am sorry if the facts and the truth don't fit your narrative.

    Have a nice day.

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