In many places, including Brazil, you would pay an amazing amount of money to just "learn how to learn" don't you think? I mean, if it was for free, or almost for free... and you stay in there just for a while and not every day, could work.
You could study most of the time on your own and sometimes just go in there and share your view, get more views, learn more from teachers and students... but it's not like that... and it is indeed amazingly expensive in most places on Earth :(...
Well said. If it wasn't for the college I attend now, I highly doubt I would have an interest in researching all the ingredients in a product or writing persuasive letters to get my money back.
Good and thoughtful video. Just a counter point: can't one learn from a job or challenging life experiences? Practice tackling complex problems can come from a variety of sources.
And good luck with your studies! I learned a lot in Uni, and especially in postgraduate research in the last 6 years. In fact I am still learning something every single day in my current job
"the point is giving us the basics so that we can find more information for ourselves". I really like that point! Well, I think that university is what you make out of it. My friend, I think that you'll have a great university experience because you understand what education is about. Undergraduate is cool because it gives you those tools to look at information in a new light. Great video!
It's funny...why is it that MOST of history's great figures DIDN'T need schooling to be what they became? Did Nikola Tesla learn how to invision everything he knew in some class room? Did Shigeru Miyamoto learn how to make Mario games in game design school (which didn't even exist back then)? Did Mozart learn how to play music at school? Did Einstein even CARE about school?! I rest my case. School's don't educate, they indoctrinate. Just look around, people are idiots.
lolz, great you just mentioned 10^(-9)% of people. Yeah some people are natural geniuses, but is your argument: "yo if u aint smart already, than fuck school bro."
plus, certain subjects can't exist without universities. It's foolish to assume schools don't educate, go back to the dark ages retard. I rest my case.
All of the people you mentioned had a high level of schooling. Of course they din´t go through education on the field they may have invented later on, but the basic understanding of the existing knowledge was crucial.
And people are not idiots. You are an elitist idiot for thinking so. Sure, there are many idiots, but doesn´t make everyone idiots. And education is the basic tool for enlightening people.
As for indoctrination, that happens nowadays through media, not education.
@Cyberspine Not entirely true but mostly true. Women's studies is a form of indoctrination and that happens through universities. It doesn't even belong there as an academic discipline, but there you go. You've got all sorts of fools coming from that class.
@clumsywesley18 It's not an opinion when you open your fucking eyes and look around. Why is America ranked so poorly in schooling? Why are people with degrees working at the fucking Cheesecake Factory. Why are so many people "undecided" in their 2nd and 3rd years of college. Don't tell me it's my opinion when the EVIDENCE suggests otherwise. Besides, why do you have a problem with what I'm saying? That's the real question.
@ghostgate82 First, the evidence you are providing comes from your point of view. Mine is entirely different, right? Secondly, you are the one who has a problem with what I'm saying since you were the one to comment on me first. Finally, I don't really have a problem with what you say considering I think you're wrong, and you won't change my opinion. I love education. I loved the schools I went to.
@clumsywesley18 How does the evidence I provided "come from my point of view"? It doesn't COME from my point of view, it SUPPORTS my point of view! Evidence is objective. It doesn't pick sides. We have an inflation of degrees nowadays. People have degrees and work at dead end jobs. Judging from your homepage and your videos, you enjoyed school for socializing, not any hard or important thought. Emo kids are stupid? "Emo" kids are caught in a paradigm just like you and most other people are.
Ugh...You truly bore me. It comes from your point of view because you are stating information you've gathered from your OBSERVATIONS. What you observe where you are isn't true for everywhere and everyone, so it is not fact.
You know nothing about me, and yet you judge. Again, from your point of view based on what?My youtube videos? Honestly, get a life. Have fun waiting for people to respond to you on a website so you can feel like people care what you have to say.Ignorance is bliss.
@clumsywesley18 If I provided you evidence that you bleed when cut, would that also be my "opinion"? Unfortunately when we deal with millions of people we have to generalize and take AVERAGES! That is how all scientific data is gathered. I never singled out any ONE person pertaining to the topic at hand, I'm using FACTUAL NATION WIDE DATA. You know, how SCIENTISTS do it. I'll give you a pass since you are still young and in your high school box. The real world is quite different.
@ghostgate82 You never provided numbers. You said "When you look around!", correct? Well, when I look around, I see different things than you. Why? My point of view is different than yours.
@ghostgate82 What is your evidence? Once again, you haven't actually provided any numbers. You haven't done a thing to support what you said other than use definitions you could get in a TEXTBOOK. Have fun with that. I also like how you're so wrong with some of the stuff you said. Good luck in the real world...
@clumsywesley18 Some of the stuff I've said? Like what? Don't be a hypocrite. And I've been in the "real" world longer than you've been alive. Unless you spend over 8 hours a day researching global economies, politics, religion, and sociology, you aren't qualified to tell me I'm wrong. The only credentials you seem to have are judging kids at your highschool. Not very unique. I'm not going to spoon feed you all of the hard data, it's up to you to find it. Mental welfare is what you are asking.
@clumsywesley18 Oh you're right. Old and bitter. Not to mention infinity superior in intelligence and wisdom. 28 isn't old either. Bitter comes with knowing that 90% of the country is too preoccupied with trivial TV events, fashion, and sports teams to wake the hell up to the global crisis we are entering in to. Yeah, I guess being bitter is a mild side effect to constantly bearing witness to animals passing themselves off as human.
I hope you were trying to use satire to make a point.
Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein both went to college. Mozart was a child prodigy, but yes - he was taught how to play the piano. Shigeru Miyamoto graduated from the Kanazawa Munici College of Industrial Arts.
Nikole Tesla technically went to a polytechnic, but in any case he had a lot of formal engineering training Also, Einstein more or less got canned, but that's not because he didn't learn the required information - he was just being an asshole.
Online sources are almost impossible to verify, and often anonymous. Any argument is based on the sum of his facts, and one inaccurate statement is enough to render an entire thesis moot.
@Leehofooks Yes, but they ALL have stated that they often drifted off and did poorly in class. They did NOT get their creative genius "taught" to them. If you believe this than you know nothing of how the brain operates. I wonder what amazing things they were thinking of when they were trying to drown out their "instructors" robotic voice....
If only I could meet them to ask. Oh wait, I HAVE (well...Miyamoto anyways). They thought he had a learning "disorder". You seem to be brainwashed.
@ghostgate82 I didn't say they got their creative genius taught to them. Nice strawman, though. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that you're completely right about these few. They learned absolutely nothing in school. School Just got in the way. Well what about the millions of us who aren't prodigies?
And in a lecture, the only way to test your knowledge of the material that you need to know for your later years is by having you memorize them. This helps build self-motivation and memorization/study skills.
The further in you go, less focus is put on memorizing these key facts, and more about grading you based on how well you can apply them.
But to keep the Dan Brown's out of grad school, they use tests and grades to determine who's going to apply themselves and who isn't.
In your Junior and Senior years, in most cases, you learn ways to apply your knowledge: introductory lab classes, research-focused classes, capstone projects, independent research, etc.
After that, in grad school, you do apply your knowledge in a unique, new, and helpful way.
So everything before grad school is designed to teach you the basic, underlying facts and concepts, and some introduction on how to utilize these for research or whatever else you're doing.
You're absolutely right. But as you said, you just started college, so you're not too familiar with what goes on in your junior, senior, and post grad classes.
They do want us to know and understand these facts, and by giving tests, they can get a good idea of who is smart, motivated, and hard working enough to actually apply these concepts. That's why the freshman and sophomore years are almost entirely lectures.
Bem uma vez q és brasileiro, vou usar o belo do PT. Bem apesar de concordar com os factos q o Dan apresentou a verdade é q recebo o feedback de alguns dos meus professores a referir esse mesmo ponto de vista q referis-te e q na verdade acabo por subscrever, pelo menos na minha área a verdade de hoje é a mentira de amanha, e como tal temos q sair de lá não a saber tudo mas sim a saber como nos actualizarmos-nos sobre a informação que precisamos na nossa área.
Dan's incoherant rant is absurd. Yes, info is available online, but FUCK, apparently he never made it to the upper level classes, because his logic completely disintegrates.
you have a good point on why, but that's not always the case I don't think. When I was in highschool all we ever did was have silent reading and take tests. We never wrote papers after 10th grade because there was no need to but because of that we missed out on critical thinking and being able to put abstract ideas together. I'm in a college course now and that's all we do is write papers. I have to say it's far easier than memorizing a bunch of questions and we get more information out of it
Sure, it would be great if we were actually tought how to learn. But that's not what's being tought in schools. If they indeed are trying to teach us how to learn, they're not doing a very good job at it,.
Besides, why do we need to know how to learn? In my opinion, we should be tought whatever we want to learn. Lets's say that I want to be a doctor, then I should be tought what I need to know to become a doctor, not a bunch of other useless knowledges. That would make things a lot easier.
@Leilalalah I will contend that there is no such thing as useless knowledge. Many of the greatest breakthroughs occur as the result of a person in one field integrating a piece of another field into their work. For example, a lot of cutting edge economics has its foundation in thermodynamics.
Also, in addition to being a doctor, you would also be a citizen, which requires a different, and broader, knowledge set.
i agree that one of the most important thing you can learn is how to learn, but thats not what you learn in school in school you learn how to do one thing. Take tests, and although you can learn things you learn very specific things. Often the test questions are worded so similarly to questions in a book or questions youve heard before that you have to learn very little to answer a question.
@GerbilAddict Completely agree, almost all the questions just blend together with little difference.Especially in a subject like english, where i can remember when im answering a question, and although it was worded differently, the answer was basically the same to what i have answered multile times before.
lots of viewpoints on this subject... we do learn how to learn and the point is we use what we've learnt to do and hopefully to improve and expand things. It's all for the knowledge but obviously what we do with the knowledge accounts for just as much as what we use it for, how is the futures society going to create new knowledge and use old and new to use it better than us? Because it should and it will =]
Last thing I want to remind people, as you said some professors don't remember things they were taught in school, a theory to this is because what they learned was used to obtain other knowledge (Learning certain mathmatics to learn more complex equations, for example.)
My concern with education after grade school graduation is generalist degrees. Many people as well as myself, take the route of degrees over certificates. Unfortunately as they may be worth more... (Cont.)
They don't focus entirely on the information you're going to need after you graduate.
(Example: In my degree, I'm studying Game Art and Design, However, I have to study everything such as English comp, story-boarding, animation, media art and so on. Even if my primary focus is Level Design, or 3-D Modeling for that matter.) Yes I gain a wider variety of knowledge in which i cherish, however, I could be vastly more skilled at my primary focus, if i was to say... Focus on it. Go figure.
I think all of your posts (Grim, MrMentch, and Craig) are both correct, and overlooking some vital keys here. I'm currently in my final year of my college education, and what I've learned that applies to this subject, from my experience, is that you have to embrace technology.
Grim, it is not Plagiarism to consult Wiki for information, however using the information word-for-word, is in fact, plagiarism. Understanding the knowledge is the vital key here.
The reason why teachers distant students from using online sources is you have to expect the worst from the student. With great power comes great responsibility. Enabling sources such as wiki allows for, as Grim said, plagiarism.
wow u just totally took dans video out of comtext, he didnt mean what you think he said. He meant that we are having to pay for something we can get for free, and education should be more than facts, its a place to learn about society and explore yourself in many different ways, aka not acting like zombies but rather putting ourselves into a more community involves environment.
IM ONLY 15, EVEN I KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!
interesting points, as a student at Emporia State University in KS i have learned that collage students don't learn how to think, or learn how to learn we learn how to Bull Shit in away that makes us sound more educated and like we have any idea on what the F*** we are talking about in the first place. we learn the jargon of educated people then learn to minipulate those words so that we sound as though we know what we are talking about
Great video, muito bom.
oreomacp 1 year ago
In many places, including Brazil, you would pay an amazing amount of money to just "learn how to learn" don't you think? I mean, if it was for free, or almost for free... and you stay in there just for a while and not every day, could work.
You could study most of the time on your own and sometimes just go in there and share your view, get more views, learn more from teachers and students... but it's not like that... and it is indeed amazingly expensive in most places on Earth :(...
shinfujiwara 1 year ago
Are you studying in brazil?
alexperes23 1 year ago
@alexperes23 yes i am
spydrake 1 year ago
Good video!
Mandou bem!
abs
andrecelotti 1 year ago
I wear my sunglasses at night so I can so I can, watch you weave and breath your story lines. --- Good video...
baddmaddogg 1 year ago
Well said. If it wasn't for the college I attend now, I highly doubt I would have an interest in researching all the ingredients in a product or writing persuasive letters to get my money back.
TshaFromTWest 1 year ago
Good and thoughtful video. Just a counter point: can't one learn from a job or challenging life experiences? Practice tackling complex problems can come from a variety of sources.
flcadam 2 years ago
For someone who hasn't been through the system yet, you have an amazing grasp of it.
I only know a few people that are in careers related to their education but it was still their education that got them their careers.
thedzy 2 years ago
Well said.
And good luck with your studies! I learned a lot in Uni, and especially in postgraduate research in the last 6 years. In fact I am still learning something every single day in my current job
SC4649 2 years ago
Is it sunny inside?
eoyn 2 years ago
Very well put!
It's about learning HOW to learn!
nishbrown 2 years ago
I encourge everyone to go to school, because, I love seeing you pathetic sheeps become even more sheepy! it's rofl!
while u in school, I make money off you, and I rape your girlfriends.
SpicyHam 2 years ago
well said
RoundSquareX 2 years ago
That reflection of the computer screen in yout shades is freakishly hypnotic...
ScarTheNewb 2 years ago
"the point is giving us the basics so that we can find more information for ourselves". I really like that point! Well, I think that university is what you make out of it. My friend, I think that you'll have a great university experience because you understand what education is about. Undergraduate is cool because it gives you those tools to look at information in a new light. Great video!
starprodigy 2 years ago
you might want to consider taking glasses off
LukeGeoDude 2 years ago
dude, i am staring at the computer screen reflection in your glasses the entire time
flickeringlamppost 2 years ago
well put spydrake 5/5
FixedByDoc 2 years ago
It's funny...why is it that MOST of history's great figures DIDN'T need schooling to be what they became? Did Nikola Tesla learn how to invision everything he knew in some class room? Did Shigeru Miyamoto learn how to make Mario games in game design school (which didn't even exist back then)? Did Mozart learn how to play music at school? Did Einstein even CARE about school?! I rest my case. School's don't educate, they indoctrinate. Just look around, people are idiots.
ghostgate82 2 years ago
lolz, great you just mentioned 10^(-9)% of people. Yeah some people are natural geniuses, but is your argument: "yo if u aint smart already, than fuck school bro."
plus, certain subjects can't exist without universities. It's foolish to assume schools don't educate, go back to the dark ages retard. I rest my case.
zeppelinmachine 2 years ago 2
All of the people you mentioned had a high level of schooling. Of course they din´t go through education on the field they may have invented later on, but the basic understanding of the existing knowledge was crucial.
And people are not idiots. You are an elitist idiot for thinking so. Sure, there are many idiots, but doesn´t make everyone idiots. And education is the basic tool for enlightening people.
As for indoctrination, that happens nowadays through media, not education.
Cyberspine 2 years ago
@Cyberspine Not entirely true but mostly true. Women's studies is a form of indoctrination and that happens through universities. It doesn't even belong there as an academic discipline, but there you go. You've got all sorts of fools coming from that class.
DonF72 2 years ago
@ghostgate82 Where did you learn about those great figures? In school?
clumsywesley18 2 years ago
@clumsywesley18 Their names? Yes, in school. Their understandings? I learned those on my own. School stifles creativity. It's a simple fact.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
@ghostgate82 No, it's not a fact. It's your opinion.
clumsywesley18 1 year ago
@clumsywesley18 It's not an opinion when you open your fucking eyes and look around. Why is America ranked so poorly in schooling? Why are people with degrees working at the fucking Cheesecake Factory. Why are so many people "undecided" in their 2nd and 3rd years of college. Don't tell me it's my opinion when the EVIDENCE suggests otherwise. Besides, why do you have a problem with what I'm saying? That's the real question.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
@ghostgate82 First, the evidence you are providing comes from your point of view. Mine is entirely different, right? Secondly, you are the one who has a problem with what I'm saying since you were the one to comment on me first. Finally, I don't really have a problem with what you say considering I think you're wrong, and you won't change my opinion. I love education. I loved the schools I went to.
clumsywesley18 1 year ago
I love being who I am because of what I've learned.
Oh, and people with degrees working at lower ranked jobs is due to the economy.
clumsywesley18 1 year ago
@clumsywesley18 How does the evidence I provided "come from my point of view"? It doesn't COME from my point of view, it SUPPORTS my point of view! Evidence is objective. It doesn't pick sides. We have an inflation of degrees nowadays. People have degrees and work at dead end jobs. Judging from your homepage and your videos, you enjoyed school for socializing, not any hard or important thought. Emo kids are stupid? "Emo" kids are caught in a paradigm just like you and most other people are.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
Ugh...You truly bore me. It comes from your point of view because you are stating information you've gathered from your OBSERVATIONS. What you observe where you are isn't true for everywhere and everyone, so it is not fact.
You know nothing about me, and yet you judge. Again, from your point of view based on what?My youtube videos? Honestly, get a life. Have fun waiting for people to respond to you on a website so you can feel like people care what you have to say.Ignorance is bliss.
clumsywesley18 1 year ago
@clumsywesley18 If I provided you evidence that you bleed when cut, would that also be my "opinion"? Unfortunately when we deal with millions of people we have to generalize and take AVERAGES! That is how all scientific data is gathered. I never singled out any ONE person pertaining to the topic at hand, I'm using FACTUAL NATION WIDE DATA. You know, how SCIENTISTS do it. I'll give you a pass since you are still young and in your high school box. The real world is quite different.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
@ghostgate82 You never provided numbers. You said "When you look around!", correct? Well, when I look around, I see different things than you. Why? My point of view is different than yours.
clumsywesley18 1 year ago
@ghostgate82 What is your evidence? Once again, you haven't actually provided any numbers. You haven't done a thing to support what you said other than use definitions you could get in a TEXTBOOK. Have fun with that. I also like how you're so wrong with some of the stuff you said. Good luck in the real world...
clumsywesley18 1 year ago
@clumsywesley18 Some of the stuff I've said? Like what? Don't be a hypocrite. And I've been in the "real" world longer than you've been alive. Unless you spend over 8 hours a day researching global economies, politics, religion, and sociology, you aren't qualified to tell me I'm wrong. The only credentials you seem to have are judging kids at your highschool. Not very unique. I'm not going to spoon feed you all of the hard data, it's up to you to find it. Mental welfare is what you are asking.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
@ghostgate82 Alright, I understand it now. You're just old and bitter. Enjoy!
clumsywesley18 1 year ago
@clumsywesley18 Oh you're right. Old and bitter. Not to mention infinity superior in intelligence and wisdom. 28 isn't old either. Bitter comes with knowing that 90% of the country is too preoccupied with trivial TV events, fashion, and sports teams to wake the hell up to the global crisis we are entering in to. Yeah, I guess being bitter is a mild side effect to constantly bearing witness to animals passing themselves off as human.
Sue me?
ghostgate82 1 year ago
I hope you were trying to use satire to make a point.
Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein both went to college. Mozart was a child prodigy, but yes - he was taught how to play the piano. Shigeru Miyamoto graduated from the Kanazawa Munici College of Industrial Arts.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
Nikole Tesla technically went to a polytechnic, but in any case he had a lot of formal engineering training Also, Einstein more or less got canned, but that's not because he didn't learn the required information - he was just being an asshole.
Online sources are almost impossible to verify, and often anonymous. Any argument is based on the sum of his facts, and one inaccurate statement is enough to render an entire thesis moot.
spasticteapot 2 years ago
I think it's funny that ghostgate82 argued that "MOST of history's great figures" didn't receive formal training, when every example he provided did.
Leehofooks 2 years ago
@Leehofooks Yes, but they ALL have stated that they often drifted off and did poorly in class. They did NOT get their creative genius "taught" to them. If you believe this than you know nothing of how the brain operates. I wonder what amazing things they were thinking of when they were trying to drown out their "instructors" robotic voice....
If only I could meet them to ask. Oh wait, I HAVE (well...Miyamoto anyways). They thought he had a learning "disorder". You seem to be brainwashed.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
@ghostgate82 I didn't say they got their creative genius taught to them. Nice strawman, though. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that you're completely right about these few. They learned absolutely nothing in school. School Just got in the way. Well what about the millions of us who aren't prodigies?
Leehofooks 1 year ago
And in a lecture, the only way to test your knowledge of the material that you need to know for your later years is by having you memorize them. This helps build self-motivation and memorization/study skills.
The further in you go, less focus is put on memorizing these key facts, and more about grading you based on how well you can apply them.
But to keep the Dan Brown's out of grad school, they use tests and grades to determine who's going to apply themselves and who isn't.
elements806 2 years ago
In your Junior and Senior years, in most cases, you learn ways to apply your knowledge: introductory lab classes, research-focused classes, capstone projects, independent research, etc.
After that, in grad school, you do apply your knowledge in a unique, new, and helpful way.
So everything before grad school is designed to teach you the basic, underlying facts and concepts, and some introduction on how to utilize these for research or whatever else you're doing.
elements806 2 years ago
You're absolutely right. But as you said, you just started college, so you're not too familiar with what goes on in your junior, senior, and post grad classes.
They do want us to know and understand these facts, and by giving tests, they can get a good idea of who is smart, motivated, and hard working enough to actually apply these concepts. That's why the freshman and sophomore years are almost entirely lectures.
I'll continue this in another comment.
elements806 2 years ago
dan is a naive little thing...
Zentz29 2 years ago
dan makes alot of money. im pretty sure its from something to do with his videos but he really doesnt need school.
sepirothfreak999 2 years ago
Bem uma vez q és brasileiro, vou usar o belo do PT. Bem apesar de concordar com os factos q o Dan apresentou a verdade é q recebo o feedback de alguns dos meus professores a referir esse mesmo ponto de vista q referis-te e q na verdade acabo por subscrever, pelo menos na minha área a verdade de hoje é a mentira de amanha, e como tal temos q sair de lá não a saber tudo mas sim a saber como nos actualizarmos-nos sobre a informação que precisamos na nossa área.
RuiMMSousa 2 years ago
Dan's incoherant rant is absurd. Yes, info is available online, but FUCK, apparently he never made it to the upper level classes, because his logic completely disintegrates.
drewsky684 2 years ago
I agree! You've explicated your argument quite well! :)
skittlebug101 2 years ago
Good man.
School's are important if the person need 'requirements' for further education, eg. University
hapkidokid157 2 years ago
you have a good point on why, but that's not always the case I don't think. When I was in highschool all we ever did was have silent reading and take tests. We never wrote papers after 10th grade because there was no need to but because of that we missed out on critical thinking and being able to put abstract ideas together. I'm in a college course now and that's all we do is write papers. I have to say it's far easier than memorizing a bunch of questions and we get more information out of it
TimeTravelingAcorns 2 years ago
That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way. I'll think about this...
tatsuhina500 2 years ago
i believe the idea you're describing is being a "life-long learner," which decades of schooling from childhood train us to become
craptapbap187 2 years ago
i completely agree
i´m from argentina, bye the way
moonandback2 2 years ago
well spoke
darkmoon123321 2 years ago
Sure, it would be great if we were actually tought how to learn. But that's not what's being tought in schools. If they indeed are trying to teach us how to learn, they're not doing a very good job at it,.
Besides, why do we need to know how to learn? In my opinion, we should be tought whatever we want to learn. Lets's say that I want to be a doctor, then I should be tought what I need to know to become a doctor, not a bunch of other useless knowledges. That would make things a lot easier.
Leilalalah 2 years ago
@Leilalalah I will contend that there is no such thing as useless knowledge. Many of the greatest breakthroughs occur as the result of a person in one field integrating a piece of another field into their work. For example, a lot of cutting edge economics has its foundation in thermodynamics.
Also, in addition to being a doctor, you would also be a citizen, which requires a different, and broader, knowledge set.
HeBreaksLate 2 years ago
Yeah, you're probably right about that... I stand corrected :)
Leilalalah 2 years ago
Took the words out my mouth...
Sonarion 2 years ago
i agree that one of the most important thing you can learn is how to learn, but thats not what you learn in school in school you learn how to do one thing. Take tests, and although you can learn things you learn very specific things. Often the test questions are worded so similarly to questions in a book or questions youve heard before that you have to learn very little to answer a question.
GerbilAddict 2 years ago
@GerbilAddict Completely agree, almost all the questions just blend together with little difference.Especially in a subject like english, where i can remember when im answering a question, and although it was worded differently, the answer was basically the same to what i have answered multile times before.
mightsnipe 2 years ago
I completely agree, these were the points that I was thinking of.
kwalkytv 2 years ago
Wow good point!
GardDawgy 2 years ago 2
lots of viewpoints on this subject... we do learn how to learn and the point is we use what we've learnt to do and hopefully to improve and expand things. It's all for the knowledge but obviously what we do with the knowledge accounts for just as much as what we use it for, how is the futures society going to create new knowledge and use old and new to use it better than us? Because it should and it will =]
palkia82 2 years ago
very well said....i agree with u in all aspects
107098 2 years ago
you are right, but there are things at school that do not make sense.
I have not chosen for History at school because of one fact:
You had to learn facts! No the in dept filosofy behind it. Almost only facts!
MeandmagiC 2 years ago
yeah, but in history you have to analyse and interpert sources etc. its not just learning lists of facts :P
Matt4Badgers 2 years ago
Last thing I want to remind people, as you said some professors don't remember things they were taught in school, a theory to this is because what they learned was used to obtain other knowledge (Learning certain mathmatics to learn more complex equations, for example.)
My concern with education after grade school graduation is generalist degrees. Many people as well as myself, take the route of degrees over certificates. Unfortunately as they may be worth more... (Cont.)
LordNaito 2 years ago
They don't focus entirely on the information you're going to need after you graduate.
(Example: In my degree, I'm studying Game Art and Design, However, I have to study everything such as English comp, story-boarding, animation, media art and so on. Even if my primary focus is Level Design, or 3-D Modeling for that matter.) Yes I gain a wider variety of knowledge in which i cherish, however, I could be vastly more skilled at my primary focus, if i was to say... Focus on it. Go figure.
LordNaito 2 years ago
I think all of your posts (Grim, MrMentch, and Craig) are both correct, and overlooking some vital keys here. I'm currently in my final year of my college education, and what I've learned that applies to this subject, from my experience, is that you have to embrace technology.
Grim, it is not Plagiarism to consult Wiki for information, however using the information word-for-word, is in fact, plagiarism. Understanding the knowledge is the vital key here.
LordNaito 2 years ago
The reason why teachers distant students from using online sources is you have to expect the worst from the student. With great power comes great responsibility. Enabling sources such as wiki allows for, as Grim said, plagiarism.
LordNaito 2 years ago
wow u just totally took dans video out of comtext, he didnt mean what you think he said. He meant that we are having to pay for something we can get for free, and education should be more than facts, its a place to learn about society and explore yourself in many different ways, aka not acting like zombies but rather putting ourselves into a more community involves environment.
IM ONLY 15, EVEN I KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!
TheGrimRaiper 2 years ago
@TheGrimRaiper comtext = context
ALSO! section 0:28 to 0:38 is called PLAGIARISM! U ARE A DUMB @SS
TheGrimRaiper 2 years ago
interesting points, as a student at Emporia State University in KS i have learned that collage students don't learn how to think, or learn how to learn we learn how to Bull Shit in away that makes us sound more educated and like we have any idea on what the F*** we are talking about in the first place. we learn the jargon of educated people then learn to minipulate those words so that we sound as though we know what we are talking about
dontestephen 2 years ago
I think you missed the point of Dan's video.
MrMentch 2 years ago
i agree (y)
CraigLive 2 years ago