@forrest225 "On sunny day you can get your prius for a spin around block" Than you have to wait to recharge it, meanwhile take a bike" well Americans could loose some weight this way ... maybe thats the catch :)
Perhaps you've never seen a solar panel. Please come by and see what i run my laptop, electric bike, and some other stuff off of.. it will make your brain explode :)
Wow, you have a lot to learn buddy. Maybe go on wikipedia and look up hydroelectric, solar, and wind energy and get back to us. Not all electricity comes from coal, and 100% of our electricity can be produced with renewables.
@mechafan180 First of all it is quiet one - whenever I drive to and from work I do not disturb the neighbors - it is driven by electric.
Second of all it is not a smelly one, like a diesel crap. Third - Jeremy hates it and for me it is already a bonus, as I am tired of tory's attitude towards majority of this country. Fourth - it is the cheapest car in the UK with automatic gear box in it category. Fifth - it is simply smart and a looker. I can do more...
@Chipchurella I have no problem with you loving the car but can you please explain why it is the best car in the world. If you really do love it, then you can expand on your statement.
@weewoodeal First of all it is quiet one - whenever I drive to and from work I do not disturb the neighbors - it is driven by electric.
Second of all it is not a smelly one, like a diesel crap. Third - Jeremy hates it and for me it is already a bonus, as I am tired of tory's attitude towards majority of this country. Fourth - it is the cheapest car in the UK with automatic gear box in it category. Fifth - it is simply smart and a looker. I can do more...
@Chipchurella i only have one reason why the prius is the worst car in the world and it trumps all your reasons. you look like a complete uptight, smug cunt when you are seen in one.
The electricity for a Prius comes from the brakes not the grid. They are not a plug in electric car. However you use gas to get the car to speed in order to use those brakes.
And on hydrogen, where do you get the hydrogen? Where in the Earth is there pure hydrogen? answer, nowhere. You have to
Break it out from compounds and the cheapest and easiest way is electrolysis from water to separate hydrogen from oxygen, however it takes power and fuel to separate them so hydrogen powered e
Hydrogen is the future. And if you think Prius' are green, they aren't. Where do you think it gets the electricity to power it? The magic electricity tree? Nope; the national grid. Mostly made up of fossil fuel power stations. Hmmm, yes. Very green.....
@neptronix that 50mpg average is only obtainable if you drive as conservatively as you can. You could still get that much mileage in a Jetta if you drove regularly.
@NGAllAmericanBadass The couple people i know that own 3rd generation priuses average 45-55mpg actually. I don't know where your claim comes from at all.
If you drive carefully you can actually hit 60mpg.
@neptronix Motorcycle. VW Golf Diesel. Your own legs. Lots of things are statistically more economical than a Prius, if you do your homework. Or, how about the Honda FCX Clarity? No gas at all - hydrogen - the most abundant resource in the UNIVERSE, but people like you would rather drive a Prius than drive a real solution, which is why the FCX is failing, so give yourself a pat on the back for wallowing in ignorance.
Sure! anything's better than a car. Cars just require tons of energy, period. ( i like electric bikes, see my YT chan )
Hydrogen may be abundant in the universe, but the only economical way to get it is to apply bunch of electricity to natural gas, which is a very energy expensive way of making a 'clean fuel'. The 'long tailpipe' argument is even worse for hydrogen than coal.
The fossil fuel industry particularly shell, pushes hydrogen.
@neptronix VW TDI, in the US market. BETTER Milage, LESS Pollution, CHEAPER to buy. And they don't even touch upon the non-recyclable chemicals in the batteries that must be dealt at the end of the battery's life. The Prius is a "Enviro Status-Symbol" but in no way an actual benefit.
Diesel is also notably more expensive than gasoline, always has been in the USA.
As for emissions, excluding electric cars, the CNG Honda Civic GX does best, & the Prius is second cleanest car you can buy - cleaner than any diesel car available in the USA.
All elements of a NiMH battery can be recycled, read up on how Toyota's NIMH recycling program works and why they *pay* you for the battery..
@neptronix You're spouting the estimated #'s, most Prius owner's don't get near the 50mpg mark, seen many complaining of not getting to 40. Many TDI owners I KNOW are getting mid 40's out of mixed Highway/city driving, and touching 50 on Highway. I've seen claims of 50's highway. While Diesel produces more Soot (The black smoke in older vehicles) this is carbon, not CO or CO2, it's harmless and inert like leaves, and burning diesel produces LESS harmful emissions than gas.
@JFinne9 I've seen claims of 50-60mpg highway ( more so with the gen 3 prius ), and some hypermilers have stretched the fuel economy into the 100mpg zone.
So who would you like to believe? how about you do some research and get back to me.
Diesels emit carbon, yes. They also emit more nitrogen oxides than any gasoline engine, and i believe sulfur oxide is a component as well, again not present in gasoline engine exhaust.
Research acid rain on wikipedia as to why NOx and SO2 are harmful.
@neptronix Hypermilers use techniques that can be extremely dangerous, and can be used by any vehicle. For chits and giggles I tried, and drafting a Semi as these Hyper-milers do I got mid nearly 48mpg in a 3/4 ton Diesel TRUCK on a highway. And for the amount of energy there is LESS harmful emissions in the diesel.
And while they recycle the Metal Hydride and Nickel Hydride the electrolytes are not, where do you think that goes.
@JFinne9 Not all hypermiling techniques are dangerous. Drafting is the best, but is not required to improve MPG.
I had a 250 mile commute for a period of time and managed to squeeze an addl. 5-7mpg out of my 4 cyl. cars on a long highway trip, without drafting. Gains on priuses are exponentially greater due to the higher efficiency of the atkinson cycle engine and regenerative braking.
Research it and get back to me. Or keep driving a 3/4 ton diesel truck and think you're saving the planet.
@JFinne9 I was at a place that recycles/repairs Prius batteries today actually. They send the bad cells off to Toyota, and replace the bad ones with new. Owner of the shop told me that the batteries from '01-'04 are finally just starting to die, but often replacing 1 or 2 little cells ( out of about a hundred ) patches up those old packs.
Potassium hydroxide is the electrolyte in NiMH, is also in alkaline batteries, which get thrown away after use in huge quantities, why? it's quite safe.
-We first either corrupt or wage million dollar wars to a country in order to obtain they're oil.
- We then set up drilling platforms that are expensive and can cause environmental disasters. We need a billion dollar maintenance industry due to how ineffective are the cars in the first place.
-We forget about the fact that batteries are actually Li-Ion not nickel and can be recycled
-Once oil runs out its easy, we just invade or destroy another country
Hybrid is american business.1/3 of world cars are made in Europe, more than Japan or US.And diesel is good sales cos of 45% thermal efficiency compared to 30% for gas, it's the cheapest upgrade for economy and sales reflect that worldwide.Except north america where they suck that small japanese cock cos they didnt learn enough math in school and somehow the japanese math is better.How stupid you gotta be to pay 20k euros for that?
I can only see Top Gear's Prius test as utterly unscientific. First of all, they only run one 10-lap trial. Science is based on reproducing results to confirm or reject a hypothesis. Second, it is well known to anybody who has purchased a Prius that the 45 MPG average that Toyota claims the car gets is a combination of highway and city driving. If you live in a city like I do, and you do a lot of stop and go, a Prius will save a ton of gas in the long run. It's not a racecar, folks.
@AntiTheory A diesel is more efficient outside the city cos it's a diesel, 45% compared to 30% for hybrid.Hybrid is still powered by classic gas engine with 30% thermal efficiency.In city, true, it is better, but it is too close and can you make up the difference of money within vehicle lifetime.Even if the vehicle would be huge mass production and very cheap, imagine it has large battery, that is total eco garbage, where raw increase in efficiency of main engine is much better.
@Olengher "...imagine it has large battery, that is total eco garbage, where raw increase in efficiency of main engine is much better."
Wouldn't the validity of that argument depend almost entirely on whether or not the battery can be recycled? If it can, then its environmental impact might well be close to zero. You're likely stuck in a false dichotomy here anyway, as there is at least theoretical potential in regenerative breaking and heat recovery that's hard to achieve without one.
@Gnomefro Regenerative brakes and heat recovery account for small economy.Most economy is keeping the main engine at peak torque and putting to work the electric engine that has maximum torque at any rotation, even zero.This is the magic of hybrids, rest is bullshit.The downside is narrow economy band, outside the band you get worse economy than single engine cars.Thats where diesel shines, single engine, large economy band.No matter, you floor it, tow, uphill, downhill, good all around.
@Olengher they made test, Prius got worse mileage than M3 across the track.That is not nice for somethin advertised as economy is in fact more of a trade off.
@Olengher Braking wastes ALOT of energy., especially in town. All the acceleration, i.e. change in inertia, is involved here. Once moving the energy needed is to overcome wind and rolling resistance. This is why most cars even with small engines can do 100mph - it requires around 70HP, but try accelerating or tackling a gradient and you see the energy needed.
A parallel hybrid like Prius will not hack it. Series hybrids enable the steady speed generation which you mention.
people need prii in countries like america because our domestic cars are like duckshit. thumbs up if you saw duckshit in chonny's driving in cars with asians. I'm so not going to get anything.
@kirbyyasha mmm, I was thinking more of a Volkswagen Polo or a Toyota Aygo. I don't stand by what I just wrote here but something small, practical, versatile, safe, comfortable, and affordable.
@WhiteIceMan3 It'd be nice if America actually got good economy cars. Sadly, a lot of the newer diesels get amazingly good fuel economy. Much better than a Prius. But Most Americans would adopt that like they adopt manual gearboxes.
i did not seen so much shit eating about an specified car like the prius, i think i will buy one , and by the way nickel is used everywhere , heaters , stainless steel etc.This video is a big shit
@rcsebulba Agreed - Clarkson is out to find favour with the makers of Muscle cars - he earns millions, 4mpg is no problem to such an overpaid selfish pig.
@ChuffChuffWoo Oh dear. The Prius yth get's debunked by the one of the world's leading motoring journalists and this is the response. The simple fact is, he is right. The Prius is bad for the enviroment and my diesel Ford Focus gives me roughly the same mpg as a Prius. The Prius is nothing but a great big lie and an even bigger marketing ploy
@chrismarkbicknell Yes the Prius is made in a horrible smelly factory, I guess all other cars grow on trees and therefore have no enviromental impact. Diesel Fords are good, but lack the feel of a proper automatic - but if you like gears, the ford is good - just a pity Jeremy HATES diesels as much as he hates anything that doesnt do more then 4 MPG
@ChuffChuffWoo You're right. All cars are made in factories. The difference is other car companies don't try and make out that they a saving the plant. Secondly, When I talk about it damaging the enviroment I am referring to the nickel batteries in the car. The mining, refinement and transportation of the nickel required causes massive amounts of pollution. Also, automatic? Really? Automatics are for people who have no interest in driving... 1/2 CONTINUED...
@ChuffChuffWoo I would take a proper manual gearbox (regardless of weather it's manual or diesel) over an automatic any day. It's true that Clarkson doesn't like diesels and I can understand his reasoning to be honest. Diesel engines don't deliver power as evenly as petrol engines and they are noisier. However, they are more economical and have more torque then petrol engines so it's all abou preference.
@ChuffChuffWoo ***ERROR CORRECTION*** I meant I would take a proper manual gearbox (regardless of weather it's PETROL or diesel) over an automatic any day.
@ChuffChuffWoo Instant maximum torque? Battery powered and hybrid cars have no power at all!!! Why do you think there are no Prius' in the BTCC and DTM championships. Prius' are slow, have no acceleration, apalling handling, brakes that fail, disgraceful interiors and a as ugly as hell. It is 1 of the worst 5 cars of all time. The others being the G=Whizz, Citroen 2CV, Nissan Sunny andRelient Robin. THat's how bad it is.
@chrismarkbicknell I do seem to get the feeling that you are not in the market for a Prius, would I be right by any chance??!?!? ;-)) Top speed requires sustained engine power, so if you are a racer, you need a big engine, in traffic you need short pulses of big torque, that's why automatics with big engines are popular, I have the same in a car that goes 4 times as far on a gallon of petrol, I hate 'sweat and grunt' stick shift diesel econoboxes. A pity that GM cronies are stuck in the past :)
@chrismarkbicknell The Reliant Robin is a three wheeler and can be driven on a motorbike licence, a big strong point for some people. The G-whizz is a blast in London - it can get through small gaps - so you get there quicker thet a Farrari driver - then you park for free!! The 2CV had huge levels of charm and you could drive it like you stole it and still not break the speed limit - fun on wheels, and the Nissian Sunny is.. Ermm, umm, err, a horrible stick shift econobox, -buy a Prius instead!
@ChuffChuffWoo lol. This last `1 made me smile. At least you have a sense of humour about the whole thing. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the prius issue. The Prius will never sway me. Especially the new plug in ones which aswell as using the high pollution nickel batteries can also be charged at the mains by power that comes from etiher coal/gas/oil or nuclear. Sources. My Focus suits me just fine. |Your Prius suits you. It's differences that make the world go round!!!
@chrismarkbicknell Or wind if your'e on a green tarriff, or live in Europe, anyway what's wrong with cheap Japanese atomic power - after that's what was used to make the Prius in the first place!! ;-))
@ChuffChuffWoo ....it is at this point that I realise I cannot think of anything good to say about the Nissian Sunny!!! (oh dear!) Mind you I really don't like any of the 'stick shift sweat and grunt econoboxes' alas a diesel econobox (even worse!!) is only good for one thing - fuel economey - even if the fuel is more expensive then petrol, alas they'll never come anywhere near the Prius with its Lexus ride and general quality.
@rcsebulba Sadly, no. This video is accurate. Also, you're right about other products using nickel. The difference is those companies don't claim that they are making "green" product like Toyota do with the Prius (Or as I call it the Hypocrite mobile). Also, I drive a diesel Ford Focus and when driven carefully I can get upto 70 mpg out of it. There is no upside to driving or owning a Prius. Plus, it is one of the ugliest cars ever made.
I'd much rather drive my 77 Cadillac Eldorado which has a very uneconomical 7.0L V8 than be seen touching a Prius. I can get almost 10 miles to the gallon in my car and I'll never see a Prius get in my way (if it does, it won't stay there for long). How many bodies can you fit into the trunk of a Prius?
Clearly, unless I'm riding a horse to work, it makes me a hypocrite to judge others about their usage of cars. So why bother with that argument?
What if I don't want to fill up my tank so often? What if I'm sick and tired of paying so much fucking money every week for gasoline? What if I'm looking for a car that gets me more miles for the gallon I paid? Well folks, a Prius does a fine job at that. A 3 year lease takes care of that battery-wear problem.
@menri005 i think i read somewhere you have to own the car for 72 years to off set the cost of buying it with the fuel you will save and that's not including the repair cost that will be insane due to the complex system
@grizz8008 I agree with you about that statistic. I have seen it somewhere too. However, nowadays not a whole lot of people buy (or I should say finish writing off) a car. I could lease the Prius for 2, 3, 4 years until a newer, more economic car (perhaps an eletric one) comes out and renew my lease. As far as repairs go, if I'm under dealer warranty, they cover the repair costs.
@menri005 My Prius is 10 years old this month - and the battery is holding up just fine - Taxi operators who run Prius cars report that that the cars last up to 700,000 including the battery! No engine belt driven alternators/compressors etc means very long life, low maintance and ultra high reliabillityy - my Prius is the best thing I've ever owned - an long may it last.
it's not distance that kills of the battery, it's time. it's going bad even when it's in the garage. so cabbies won't have problems with it because they write a car off in a few years. you will get trouble after a few years, and at that point toyota will replace it free of charge because they can't affort bad press. but that's not the point, the new battery has to be made, and the old one scrapped.
@ChuffChuffWoo The battery is holding up well after 10 years because the stupid car doesn't use the battery much for long trips you idiot. When your just coasting along its using the engine to power it.
@mattg889 Until a few months ago, I worked at a power station for ten years, that commute involved driving up a small mountain called 'Sire's hill' then all the electcticity I generated coming down the other side would propel me through the town at the bottom all the way to work - that battery has seen plenty of use and has saved me a fortune in fuel - Prius will beat anything for fuel economey in hilly country - even those unplesent stick shift 'econobox' diesels.
@ChuffChuffWoo That hill and the power you got from it would only amount to probably %20 of your commute. I wouldn't think you were driving through a 40 mile long town... Tell me, for how much of your commute would it truly be using the battery? With my guess of %20 above, battery has only had about 2 years of actual use then. Battery life depends a lot on use, not on miles driven.
@ChuffChuffWoo If I buy any hybrid it will be the Ford Fusion! The more I read about the Prius the worse it sounds to me!
Keep in mind I never said the Prius is not a efficient car (although it isn't as efficient as it should be!), I am just saying your battery is holding up well because you don't use it as much as you think. The battery is one of the most prevalent problems with the Prius. It is only used at under 45mph. Do you really make your entire 40 mile commute at less than 45mph?
@ChuffChuffWoo btw, You do realize that that mileage from the taxi's is actually in km. Look it up, it translates to about 435,000 Miles. Still not to shabby, but that was probably on one very lucky Prius. And even then that story as far as I can tell is a... story. The highest real report I have found was around 300,000 miles.
@mattg889 300,000 miles and as a taxi at that - I'd be happy with that. Battery in my car kicks in at any speed to assist the engine - apart from some early failures caused by cleaning products used to keep the factory clean getting in to the battery cells, the battery is more reliable then most cars - Fusion sounds good, as for the Prius, Toyota's 10 year head start has given them plenty of time to improve in the eficiency of the latest cars over my 10 year old model.
@ChuffChuffWoo A car that's running 24/7 will last longer than a car that isn't. Even with city traffic. (everything stays at running temp, including batteries) They have just as many reports of all there other cars going over 300,000 as well. It's not really that surprising...
And everything I have read, the electric motor in the Prius simply cant propel the car at over 45, at least on US models. That is on older models like yours, I can't find much about the current ones.
@mattg889 Taxi's have a hard life - 300,000 is no mean feat! And that taxi company one has done 1,000,000km! Mine is 10 years old and looks new, the motor is programmed to not propel the car on its own over 45mph as it is more efficient to run on the engine at those speeds - but it does assist the car at any speed when you floor it - even at 100mph. Don't read up on it - go and buy one, until you've actually one one, you just won't understand why Prius owners are the happiest drivers of all.
@ChuffChuffWoo haha, its funny how you keep raising the number and switching back to km to make it look better...
I didn't know we were talking about the assist when flooring it. You floor it a lot? That changes a lot... If you floor it a lot then your battery is probably a good one. Odd question, whats your avg mpg? (or km/l)
I'd still plan to buy a Fusion if I ever have the money. Perhaps a used one. :-)
@mattg889 The actual figures are in km, the battery lasted 700,000 km, the car, with a new battery has made it to 1,000,000km and is still going!!! (can't be bothered to work that out in miles) mine gets plenty of entheuastic moments on the pedal. currently showing 62mpg
@ChuffChuffWoo Sorry, I find it to be pretty quick to convert with the calculators on the internet. I have seen first hand many other cars and especially trucks with over 1.6 mil km on them, 1 mil km is pretty good, but still. Not to bad a mileage either, with my non-hybrid Taurus I can get 40 if I want to... That's why I don't think there as efficient as they should be. I don't think any hybrid is at this time.
haha, yea that would be a really big number in inches lol.
@ChuffChuffWoo It would take me about that many miles to make up for the extra cost of the car. Not to mention when the batteries go... I'm waiting until they have a little better mileage.
@ChuffChuffWoo The battery saved the engine from having to run all the time - even when not moving Battery efficiency 20% (actually it's much more then that) engine efficiency in traffic - about 1%, battery life in traffic - about 700,0000 miles - ask the Prius taxi operators.
@menri005 if you dont want to pay so much for gas, spend around 1000 for pretty much any 90s 4 cyl. engine, get 40 mpgs, dont harm the enviroment, and save over 20,000 off the initial investment. But maybey thats just me, maybey im the only smart one lol
@menri005 Horses are bad for the enviroment!!, they make gas, they eat the grass, and the accelleration and handling are terrible, cyclists are just as bad with all that sweating and bikes are even slower then horses, AND they have to eat more, putting a strain on agriculture!! ;-))
But the Prius uses batteries they say..? The problem is the Prius is made in a factory with parts sourced from component suppliers around the world, and then shipped to the customers home country. Unlike other cars that I guess just appear in the show room overnight, having been created by fairies out of pixie dust. Modern shipping is so efficient it only takes a few gallons of fuel to perform the whole Prius logistics operation, alas I've no idea how much pixie dust you need to create a Hummer
@klined Batteries are very easy to make - fully automated - and fully recycled - its much easier to recover all the nickel from a hybrid battery then it is to recover the nickle from the steel alloys used to make a Hummer - and the Hummer uses more nickel!! Alas the Prius is made an a factory, all other cars I guess grow on trees
hybrids are designed to be fuel efficient in city driving... because thats when the battery actually kicks in. during highway driving its just run on fuel and no battery... this is called BMW paying Top Gear to not mention such things and to advertise the M3 as a more economical car... its all business
The test is poorly done. If they're driven the Prius behind the BMW the Prius would have gotten better gas mileage. It is sad when people create flawed tests to prove their own bias.
Let’s see what have I owned over the years, Mustang II, Dodge Dart, F-100, VW Rabbit “Diesel”, Dodge Ram 4X4, Bronco 4X4, Mazda 2000, Acura Integra, Mazda 626, F-150, BMW 325i, Toyota 4-Runner, Jeep Wrangler, Toyota Land Cruiser, Mustang GT and currently a Toyota Prius and I like it.
As much as I love Toyota, I'm really not fond of the prius. I'd rather just buy a small regular gas car that gets a good amount of gas mileage while still getting way more power than a prius. Diesel cars seem like a good idea and I do support bio diesel production.
@crazyboyxx Oh yeah your so right because everywhere from The Artic to Antartica is melting. Wait no Antartica is actually not melting and actually gaining in land mass. And the oceans and volcanos emit more CO2 than humans ever did. Whatever global warming really is, it's just a natual occurance, humans didn't do anything. And I didn't base my entire opinion on a top gear video, just an observation. Take that for an opinion
Want to save the earth? become a scientist and dedicate your life to invent an effecient fuel. Like finding a way to easily make hydrogen.
Just don't buy those crappy Prius's!
1 more thing: the trouble with batteries is that they are worthless after 3 years. So what are they gonne do with them then? replacing them might cost more then the car is worth at that moment. So they'll dump 'm?.. after 3 years...
The batteries are just fine after 3 years. I do not own a Prius, but am looking at all fuel efficient cars and the batteries Toyota uses do an excellent job and last a very, very long time. Don't post speculation, don't post bias, post facts.
it is a know FACT that batteries start/show their effects of wearing off. Though still improving, they don't last as long as a car, also a FACT. The Prius saving fuel by using a batterie? false. Because the car has an extra battery it has more weight to carry around. Also, like when powering the lamps of your bicycle, the engine has to burn more fuel because it is also heavy to load those batteries. FACT.
Prius' should be banned, just like hummers (except for the US army, they like m)
If you want to save the planet, don't even bother because there is nothing wrong with it. Global warming is a myth. If the temperature is changing, it's just one of earth's cycles. Probably something that we haven't been around long enough to understand.
The polar bears are fine, the trees are fine. The only thing that we really do need to worry about is the rain-forests.
@TheWatzitooya Good point, and I'd like to add we have to worry about all those doppy, tree-hugging liberals who are in power trying to change the country for the worse. Such hubris to think we (=white American males) are causing the Earth to warm up.
hi.i drive a prius 2010 and get 63 miles/gallon combined and the best i got was 69/gallon combined.i love all the gadgets it has and its technology is brilliant.clarkson does not like japaneese reliable cars.ask any toyota owners ,toyotas will be the reliable car they hav ever driven.
@rexvarughese It's not about reliability, It's about the huge mistake that people make by thinking they are getting a better deal and saving the planet.
@rexvarughese You're stupid just like all Prius drivers that go 45 on the freeway and bullshit that its reliable my friend has one and has turn into a retarded tree hugger, his transmission broke and my bike goes 0-60 faster than the Gayus.Get a real car European or American.dipshit.
@rexvarughese Reliable maybe, but not aesthetically pleasing in any way, to say the least...and rather un-emotional. IMO a car just needs an engine - preferably a V8 or R5 to really become more than a bus or a streetcar.
@rexvarughese this video was from 2008 retard, those models averaged about 45 mpg I have seen it myself. and just because clarkson doesn't like the prius, doesnt mean he hates all toyotas.
In short, crusader1987 has no idea what he's talking about, but hey, thanks for sounding like an idiot. The only cocks are people like you, who have no idea what they're talking about and are to ignorant to look up any info yourself and leave it to the 'genius' jerk clarkson.
The fact of the matter is this: What kind of person drives a Prius, or any other hybrid car? Answer: Someone who wants to brag about how they're saving the world by driving said hybrid and then take that hybrid onto the highway and go 70 MPH and get 25 MPG out of it because it has an underpowered engine that also has to lug around heavy batteries and an electric motor at high speeds where the electric motor is useless.
I can get almost 450 miles/tank out of my '07 Silverado. Combined 18mpg for a truck. 15 city, 20 Hwy For truck that weighs 5000lbs and 315hp. A 2004 Land Rover (the cost equivalent) gets a combined 15mpg and 282hp and runs on premium. My cost of gas is less, maintenance is less and insurance is less. I guess my point is don't knock a new truck when it's driving around. It's a lot safer for the environment than a prius. New 2008 prius was 27K, my tru
I can get almost 450 miles/tank out of my '07 Silverado. Combined 18mpg for a truck. 15 city, 20 Hwy For truck that weighs 5000lbs and 315hp. A 2004 Land Rover (the cost equivalent) gets a combined 15mpg and 282hp and runs on premium. My cost of gas is less, maintenance is less and insurance is less. I guess my point is don't knock a new truck when it's driving around. It's a lot safer for the environment than a prius. New 2008 prius was 27K, my truck used w/ 29,000 mi on it, 24k w/ warranty.
I can get almost 450 miles/tank out of my '07 Silverado. Combined 18mpg for a truck. 15 city, 20 Hwy For truck that weighs 5000lbs and 315hp. A 2004 Land Rover (the cost equivalent) gets a combined 15mpg and 282hp and runs on premium. My cost of gas is less, maintenance is less and insurance is less. I guess my point is don't knock a new truck when it's driving around. It's a lot safer for the environment than a prius. New 2008 prius was 27K, my truck used w/ 29,000 mi on it, 24k w/ warranty.
to create a Prius, like another kind of machine, it`s necesary a lot of electricity, a lot of petrol for the tires, for the tubes, for the plastics inside and outside, a lot of petrol for create the glasses, the wires... at the end of all of this, if you think because your car has a battery in the trunk, you`re saving the world... well... you was haunted for the marketing-guys...
Why would anybody buy the little VW polo? The Prius is a much bigger, more comfortable car.
asmiddleditch 17 hours ago
Buy a diesel, more MPG, costs less, looks better, better interior, faster, doesnt make you like like a moron
acenace24 5 days ago
THe price alone...the prius blows
09809709879876678698 1 week ago
ignorance prius is better. how much is disel?
if you look at the price on batt on a chart you will see!!
paradox2358 1 week ago
I love diesels now that they burn cleaner than they used to. Too bad diesel costs more than even 93 gas, at least in the US.
cjoutdoors1991 1 week ago
Saying the Prius is clean is like saying an electric car is green.
Where do you think electricity comes from? Burning fossil fuels last time I checked!
acenace24 1 month ago
@acenace24 The idea is that we stop using fossil fuels to produce the electricity. Like that will ever happen.
forrest225 3 weeks ago
@forrest225 "On sunny day you can get your prius for a spin around block" Than you have to wait to recharge it, meanwhile take a bike" well Americans could loose some weight this way ... maybe thats the catch :)
HowkeyLL 3 weeks ago
@forrest225
Perhaps you've never seen a solar panel. Please come by and see what i run my laptop, electric bike, and some other stuff off of.. it will make your brain explode :)
neptronix 13 hours ago
@acenace24 Wow. You have no understanding of how the hybrid system on the prius works at all, do you :)
neptronix 1 week ago
@acenace24
Wow, you have a lot to learn buddy. Maybe go on wikipedia and look up hydroelectric, solar, and wind energy and get back to us. Not all electricity comes from coal, and 100% of our electricity can be produced with renewables.
neptronix 13 hours ago
@ignopp21 +1!!!!!!! This coming from me a filthy yank. If only more people thought like Mr. Clarkson
jayson9253 1 month ago
The Prius is the ugliest car in human history (next to the Mini Clubman) If you want to get good mileage get a diesel!!!
ignopp21 1 month ago
Chipchurella you are the stupidest most boring person in the world and should not be allowed to comment on anything for the rest of your life.
mechafan180 1 month ago
@mechafan180 You are a plank, I am in total agreement with you.
Chipchurella 1 month ago
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@mechafan180 First of all it is quiet one - whenever I drive to and from work I do not disturb the neighbors - it is driven by electric.
Second of all it is not a smelly one, like a diesel crap. Third - Jeremy hates it and for me it is already a bonus, as I am tired of tory's attitude towards majority of this country. Fourth - it is the cheapest car in the UK with automatic gear box in it category. Fifth - it is simply smart and a looker. I can do more...
Chipchurella 1 month ago
Toyota Prius is the best car in the world! I love it!
Chipchurella 1 month ago
@Chipchurella Wow you must be brilliant to sit next to in partys
2k10cal 1 month ago
@2k10cal Aye, spot on.
Chipchurella 1 month ago
@Chipchurella I have no problem with you loving the car but can you please explain why it is the best car in the world. If you really do love it, then you can expand on your statement.
weewoodeal 1 month ago
@weewoodeal First of all it is quiet one - whenever I drive to and from work I do not disturb the neighbors - it is driven by electric.
Second of all it is not a smelly one, like a diesel crap. Third - Jeremy hates it and for me it is already a bonus, as I am tired of tory's attitude towards majority of this country. Fourth - it is the cheapest car in the UK with automatic gear box in it category. Fifth - it is simply smart and a looker. I can do more...
Chipchurella 1 month ago
@Chipchurella i only have one reason why the prius is the worst car in the world and it trumps all your reasons. you look like a complete uptight, smug cunt when you are seen in one.
TVRnGTR 1 month ago
Wow what a proffessional video........envy and distrust....
xLOYALTOYOTAx 2 months ago
English people .....
xLOYALTOYOTAx 2 months ago
Just get a Honda CRX, they have been proven to get 50+ mpg and they are dirt cheap to buy. And plus they look better than a prius...IMO...
TwistedTc 2 months ago
TOYOTA PRY-US
IdentifiableUser 3 months ago 4
@pidlive
The electricity for a Prius comes from the brakes not the grid. They are not a plug in electric car. However you use gas to get the car to speed in order to use those brakes.
And on hydrogen, where do you get the hydrogen? Where in the Earth is there pure hydrogen? answer, nowhere. You have to
Break it out from compounds and the cheapest and easiest way is electrolysis from water to separate hydrogen from oxygen, however it takes power and fuel to separate them so hydrogen powered e
chnowak 3 months ago
@chnowak
not really. hydrogen can now be extracted from water using electricity
moesotaku 1 month ago
Hydrogen is the future. And if you think Prius' are green, they aren't. Where do you think it gets the electricity to power it? The magic electricity tree? Nope; the national grid. Mostly made up of fossil fuel power stations. Hmmm, yes. Very green.....
pidlive 3 months ago
@pidlive
That´s really funny! Electricity Tree. :-D
xLOYALTOYOTAx 2 months ago
lol i thought u pronounced it Preeyus?
alooandrice 4 months ago
@alooandrice you do. top gear is the only program that say it wrong. even fifth gear say it right
ilikepie3111 4 months ago
@ilikepie3111 ohhh lol. dumbasses.
alooandrice 4 months ago
So does that mean H2's are more environmentally friendly than previously thought
TxRangersfan210 4 months ago
I will stick to my '84 K5 Blazer that will run that shit over
tharrington11 5 months ago
You can hate on the prius all ya like, but nothing stretches out a gallon of gas farther than this car, at least in the USA market.
neptronix 5 months ago 3
@neptronix Volkswagen has jetta diesels in the US that get like 55mpg on the highway.
NGAllAmericanBadass 5 months ago
@NGAllAmericanBadass EPA rating for the Jetta diesel is 30/42mpg.
Diesel fuel also costs more in most areas of the United States.
The prius is rated 50mpg average whereas the jetta diesel is rated 36mpg average.
So yeah; prius wins again.
neptronix 5 months ago
@neptronix that 50mpg average is only obtainable if you drive as conservatively as you can. You could still get that much mileage in a Jetta if you drove regularly.
NGAllAmericanBadass 5 months ago
@NGAllAmericanBadass The couple people i know that own 3rd generation priuses average 45-55mpg actually. I don't know where your claim comes from at all.
If you drive carefully you can actually hit 60mpg.
neptronix 5 months ago 2
@neptronix Well I'm not sure how those people drive, but i assume it's on the conservative side.
NGAllAmericanBadass 5 months ago
@neptronix In the USA market maybe, come to Europe, my 10 year old car has the same mpg as Prius.
HowkeyLL 3 weeks ago
@neptronix Diseals.
xPyroxx 3 weeks ago
@neptronix Any NEW car that is
10RRASK 1 week ago
@neptronix Motorcycle. VW Golf Diesel. Your own legs. Lots of things are statistically more economical than a Prius, if you do your homework. Or, how about the Honda FCX Clarity? No gas at all - hydrogen - the most abundant resource in the UNIVERSE, but people like you would rather drive a Prius than drive a real solution, which is why the FCX is failing, so give yourself a pat on the back for wallowing in ignorance.
DasPenguin85 1 week ago
@DasPenguin85
Sure! anything's better than a car. Cars just require tons of energy, period. ( i like electric bikes, see my YT chan )
Hydrogen may be abundant in the universe, but the only economical way to get it is to apply bunch of electricity to natural gas, which is a very energy expensive way of making a 'clean fuel'. The 'long tailpipe' argument is even worse for hydrogen than coal.
The fossil fuel industry particularly shell, pushes hydrogen.
Shell also sponsors top gear. look it up.
neptronix 1 week ago
@neptronix VW TDI, in the US market. BETTER Milage, LESS Pollution, CHEAPER to buy. And they don't even touch upon the non-recyclable chemicals in the batteries that must be dealt at the end of the battery's life. The Prius is a "Enviro Status-Symbol" but in no way an actual benefit.
JFinne9 1 week ago
@JFinne9
VW Golf TDI: 30/42mpg
Prius: 51/48mpg
Diesel is also notably more expensive than gasoline, always has been in the USA.
As for emissions, excluding electric cars, the CNG Honda Civic GX does best, & the Prius is second cleanest car you can buy - cleaner than any diesel car available in the USA.
All elements of a NiMH battery can be recycled, read up on how Toyota's NIMH recycling program works and why they *pay* you for the battery..
Any other false info you'd like me to debunk?
neptronix 1 week ago
@neptronix You're spouting the estimated #'s, most Prius owner's don't get near the 50mpg mark, seen many complaining of not getting to 40. Many TDI owners I KNOW are getting mid 40's out of mixed Highway/city driving, and touching 50 on Highway. I've seen claims of 50's highway. While Diesel produces more Soot (The black smoke in older vehicles) this is carbon, not CO or CO2, it's harmless and inert like leaves, and burning diesel produces LESS harmful emissions than gas.
JFinne9 2 days ago
@JFinne9 I've seen claims of 50-60mpg highway ( more so with the gen 3 prius ), and some hypermilers have stretched the fuel economy into the 100mpg zone.
So who would you like to believe? how about you do some research and get back to me.
Diesels emit carbon, yes. They also emit more nitrogen oxides than any gasoline engine, and i believe sulfur oxide is a component as well, again not present in gasoline engine exhaust.
Research acid rain on wikipedia as to why NOx and SO2 are harmful.
neptronix 2 days ago
@neptronix Hypermilers use techniques that can be extremely dangerous, and can be used by any vehicle. For chits and giggles I tried, and drafting a Semi as these Hyper-milers do I got mid nearly 48mpg in a 3/4 ton Diesel TRUCK on a highway. And for the amount of energy there is LESS harmful emissions in the diesel.
And while they recycle the Metal Hydride and Nickel Hydride the electrolytes are not, where do you think that goes.
I'll say it again. Status symbol, not solution.
JFinne9 2 days ago
@JFinne9 Not all hypermiling techniques are dangerous. Drafting is the best, but is not required to improve MPG.
I had a 250 mile commute for a period of time and managed to squeeze an addl. 5-7mpg out of my 4 cyl. cars on a long highway trip, without drafting. Gains on priuses are exponentially greater due to the higher efficiency of the atkinson cycle engine and regenerative braking.
Research it and get back to me. Or keep driving a 3/4 ton diesel truck and think you're saving the planet.
neptronix 2 days ago
@JFinne9 I was at a place that recycles/repairs Prius batteries today actually. They send the bad cells off to Toyota, and replace the bad ones with new. Owner of the shop told me that the batteries from '01-'04 are finally just starting to die, but often replacing 1 or 2 little cells ( out of about a hundred ) patches up those old packs.
Potassium hydroxide is the electrolyte in NiMH, is also in alkaline batteries, which get thrown away after use in huge quantities, why? it's quite safe.
neptronix 2 days ago
@neptronix a Civic VX will do as well as a Prius
MaddDogg81 13 hours ago
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To make fuel cars we do this:
-We first either corrupt or wage million dollar wars to a country in order to obtain they're oil.
- We then set up drilling platforms that are expensive and can cause environmental disasters. We need a billion dollar maintenance industry due to how ineffective are the cars in the first place.
-We forget about the fact that batteries are actually Li-Ion not nickel and can be recycled
-Once oil runs out its easy, we just invade or destroy another country
299nacho 5 months ago
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299nacho 5 months ago
Hybrid is american business.1/3 of world cars are made in Europe, more than Japan or US.And diesel is good sales cos of 45% thermal efficiency compared to 30% for gas, it's the cheapest upgrade for economy and sales reflect that worldwide.Except north america where they suck that small japanese cock cos they didnt learn enough math in school and somehow the japanese math is better.How stupid you gotta be to pay 20k euros for that?
Olengher 5 months ago
I can only see Top Gear's Prius test as utterly unscientific. First of all, they only run one 10-lap trial. Science is based on reproducing results to confirm or reject a hypothesis. Second, it is well known to anybody who has purchased a Prius that the 45 MPG average that Toyota claims the car gets is a combination of highway and city driving. If you live in a city like I do, and you do a lot of stop and go, a Prius will save a ton of gas in the long run. It's not a racecar, folks.
AntiTheory 5 months ago
@AntiTheory A diesel is more efficient outside the city cos it's a diesel, 45% compared to 30% for hybrid.Hybrid is still powered by classic gas engine with 30% thermal efficiency.In city, true, it is better, but it is too close and can you make up the difference of money within vehicle lifetime.Even if the vehicle would be huge mass production and very cheap, imagine it has large battery, that is total eco garbage, where raw increase in efficiency of main engine is much better.
Olengher 5 months ago
@Olengher "...imagine it has large battery, that is total eco garbage, where raw increase in efficiency of main engine is much better."
Wouldn't the validity of that argument depend almost entirely on whether or not the battery can be recycled? If it can, then its environmental impact might well be close to zero. You're likely stuck in a false dichotomy here anyway, as there is at least theoretical potential in regenerative breaking and heat recovery that's hard to achieve without one.
Gnomefro 5 months ago
@Gnomefro Regenerative brakes and heat recovery account for small economy.Most economy is keeping the main engine at peak torque and putting to work the electric engine that has maximum torque at any rotation, even zero.This is the magic of hybrids, rest is bullshit.The downside is narrow economy band, outside the band you get worse economy than single engine cars.Thats where diesel shines, single engine, large economy band.No matter, you floor it, tow, uphill, downhill, good all around.
Olengher 5 months ago
@Olengher they made test, Prius got worse mileage than M3 across the track.That is not nice for somethin advertised as economy is in fact more of a trade off.
Olengher 5 months ago
@Olengher Braking wastes ALOT of energy., especially in town. All the acceleration, i.e. change in inertia, is involved here. Once moving the energy needed is to overcome wind and rolling resistance. This is why most cars even with small engines can do 100mph - it requires around 70HP, but try accelerating or tackling a gradient and you see the energy needed.
A parallel hybrid like Prius will not hack it. Series hybrids enable the steady speed generation which you mention.
harlingtonstraker 2 months ago
Jeremy just said: Pr"i"us. But more people called it pr"e"us. which one is right?????
sdu0072001 6 months ago
DIESEL FTW!
Smart Fortwo diesel achieves 3.4 L/100 km 69 mpg-US).
Ford Fiesta ECOnetic achieves (3.6 L/100 km; 78 mpg-imp).
Mini Cooper D achieves (combined): 3.8 L/100 km (62 mpg)
VW Bluemotion Polo achieves 3.9 L/100 km (60 mpg)
Seat Ibiza Ecomotive achieves 3.9 L/100 km (60 mpg)
AND THE LIST GOES ON! =D
malbert34 6 months ago
@malbert34 And the funny thing is that most of these cars are faster, better looking, more fun to drive, more comfortable...
AND THE LIST GOES ON! =D
TreinKub 6 months ago 3
of course they say it differenly in britain
testnumberone1 6 months ago
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Hardly an opinion - its fact.
salarisdaman 7 months ago
jeremy for president !!!
martino009 7 months ago
The batteries will pollute like hell
MaddDogg81 8 months ago 46
@MaddDogg81 The batteries are 100% recycleable.
But nickel metal hydride is on it's way out. Lithium will replace it quite soon.
neptronix 5 months ago
@MaddDogg81 Just from being made!
Natesmodelrailroad 2 months ago
@MaddDogg81. Yes, like all the batteries you use in all the products you use. 95% recyclable btw...
asmiddleditch 17 hours ago
people need prii in countries like america because our domestic cars are like duckshit. thumbs up if you saw duckshit in chonny's driving in cars with asians. I'm so not going to get anything.
WhiteIceMan3 8 months ago
@WhiteIceMan3 We need the Volkswagen Urban Fox from Europe. Much more fuel economical, and fun to drive.
kirbyyasha 8 months ago
@kirbyyasha mmm, I was thinking more of a Volkswagen Polo or a Toyota Aygo. I don't stand by what I just wrote here but something small, practical, versatile, safe, comfortable, and affordable.
WhiteIceMan3 8 months ago
@WhiteIceMan3 It'd be nice if America actually got good economy cars. Sadly, a lot of the newer diesels get amazingly good fuel economy. Much better than a Prius. But Most Americans would adopt that like they adopt manual gearboxes.
kirbyyasha 8 months ago
@kirbyyasha I was told that america's emissions regulations wouldnt let the diesels in, kind of retarded, but then again this is america....
Mycoughlin 7 months ago
@Mycoughlin This is very true.
kirbyyasha 7 months ago
Prius is a Top Gear Magazine favorite!!! (put3'W'shere).autoblog.com/2009/12/06/et-tu-clarkson-i-top-gear-i-names-toyota-prius-its-city-ca/
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago
this video has been manipulated.
indunilw 8 months ago
@indunilw
want a medal for that?
dottorrent 8 months ago
@indunilw its a combo of 2 different episodes
TheFiveStarCouch 8 months ago
in a car race, the car in the front has to brake the wind and the second doesn't, so the car in the front needs more energy to reach the same speed.
repollado 9 months ago
@repollado Yeah, at 150mph plus but not at the peeds that these cars are going. Slipstreaming isn't even an arguement for the test that Top Gear did
chrismarkbicknell 9 months ago
my chevelle is a hybrid! it burns rubber and gas!
paidmydues4life 9 months ago 106
@paidmydues4life
Hahahah
Charles2337 1 month ago
i did not seen so much shit eating about an specified car like the prius, i think i will buy one , and by the way nickel is used everywhere , heaters , stainless steel etc.This video is a big shit
rcsebulba 9 months ago
@rcsebulba Agreed - Clarkson is out to find favour with the makers of Muscle cars - he earns millions, 4mpg is no problem to such an overpaid selfish pig.
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@rcsebulba Agreed - Clarkson is out to find favour with car makers that make 4MPG sports cars - overpaid selfish pig
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo Oh dear. The Prius yth get's debunked by the one of the world's leading motoring journalists and this is the response. The simple fact is, he is right. The Prius is bad for the enviroment and my diesel Ford Focus gives me roughly the same mpg as a Prius. The Prius is nothing but a great big lie and an even bigger marketing ploy
chrismarkbicknell 9 months ago
@chrismarkbicknell Yes the Prius is made in a horrible smelly factory, I guess all other cars grow on trees and therefore have no enviromental impact. Diesel Fords are good, but lack the feel of a proper automatic - but if you like gears, the ford is good - just a pity Jeremy HATES diesels as much as he hates anything that doesnt do more then 4 MPG
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo You're right. All cars are made in factories. The difference is other car companies don't try and make out that they a saving the plant. Secondly, When I talk about it damaging the enviroment I am referring to the nickel batteries in the car. The mining, refinement and transportation of the nickel required causes massive amounts of pollution. Also, automatic? Really? Automatics are for people who have no interest in driving... 1/2 CONTINUED...
chrismarkbicknell 8 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo I would take a proper manual gearbox (regardless of weather it's manual or diesel) over an automatic any day. It's true that Clarkson doesn't like diesels and I can understand his reasoning to be honest. Diesel engines don't deliver power as evenly as petrol engines and they are noisier. However, they are more economical and have more torque then petrol engines so it's all abou preference.
chrismarkbicknell 8 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo ***ERROR CORRECTION*** I meant I would take a proper manual gearbox (regardless of weather it's PETROL or diesel) over an automatic any day.
Thanks
chrismarkbicknell 8 months ago
@chrismarkbicknell and electric motors have the best power delivery of all - instant maximum torque - Prius electric drive is tops.
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo Instant maximum torque? Battery powered and hybrid cars have no power at all!!! Why do you think there are no Prius' in the BTCC and DTM championships. Prius' are slow, have no acceleration, apalling handling, brakes that fail, disgraceful interiors and a as ugly as hell. It is 1 of the worst 5 cars of all time. The others being the G=Whizz, Citroen 2CV, Nissan Sunny andRelient Robin. THat's how bad it is.
chrismarkbicknell 8 months ago
@chrismarkbicknell I do seem to get the feeling that you are not in the market for a Prius, would I be right by any chance??!?!? ;-)) Top speed requires sustained engine power, so if you are a racer, you need a big engine, in traffic you need short pulses of big torque, that's why automatics with big engines are popular, I have the same in a car that goes 4 times as far on a gallon of petrol, I hate 'sweat and grunt' stick shift diesel econoboxes. A pity that GM cronies are stuck in the past :)
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago
@chrismarkbicknell The Reliant Robin is a three wheeler and can be driven on a motorbike licence, a big strong point for some people. The G-whizz is a blast in London - it can get through small gaps - so you get there quicker thet a Farrari driver - then you park for free!! The 2CV had huge levels of charm and you could drive it like you stole it and still not break the speed limit - fun on wheels, and the Nissian Sunny is.. Ermm, umm, err, a horrible stick shift econobox, -buy a Prius instead!
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo lol. This last `1 made me smile. At least you have a sense of humour about the whole thing. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the prius issue. The Prius will never sway me. Especially the new plug in ones which aswell as using the high pollution nickel batteries can also be charged at the mains by power that comes from etiher coal/gas/oil or nuclear. Sources. My Focus suits me just fine. |Your Prius suits you. It's differences that make the world go round!!!
chrismarkbicknell 8 months ago
@chrismarkbicknell Or wind if your'e on a green tarriff, or live in Europe, anyway what's wrong with cheap Japanese atomic power - after that's what was used to make the Prius in the first place!! ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo ....it is at this point that I realise I cannot think of anything good to say about the Nissian Sunny!!! (oh dear!) Mind you I really don't like any of the 'stick shift sweat and grunt econoboxes' alas a diesel econobox (even worse!!) is only good for one thing - fuel economey - even if the fuel is more expensive then petrol, alas they'll never come anywhere near the Prius with its Lexus ride and general quality.
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago
@rcsebulba Sadly, no. This video is accurate. Also, you're right about other products using nickel. The difference is those companies don't claim that they are making "green" product like Toyota do with the Prius (Or as I call it the Hypocrite mobile). Also, I drive a diesel Ford Focus and when driven carefully I can get upto 70 mpg out of it. There is no upside to driving or owning a Prius. Plus, it is one of the ugliest cars ever made.
chrismarkbicknell 9 months ago
I'd much rather drive my 77 Cadillac Eldorado which has a very uneconomical 7.0L V8 than be seen touching a Prius. I can get almost 10 miles to the gallon in my car and I'll never see a Prius get in my way (if it does, it won't stay there for long). How many bodies can you fit into the trunk of a Prius?
demomanchaos 9 months ago
What if I don't want to save the world?
Clearly, unless I'm riding a horse to work, it makes me a hypocrite to judge others about their usage of cars. So why bother with that argument?
What if I don't want to fill up my tank so often? What if I'm sick and tired of paying so much fucking money every week for gasoline? What if I'm looking for a car that gets me more miles for the gallon I paid? Well folks, a Prius does a fine job at that. A 3 year lease takes care of that battery-wear problem.
menri005 10 months ago
@menri005 i think i read somewhere you have to own the car for 72 years to off set the cost of buying it with the fuel you will save and that's not including the repair cost that will be insane due to the complex system
grizz8008 10 months ago
@grizz8008 I agree with you about that statistic. I have seen it somewhere too. However, nowadays not a whole lot of people buy (or I should say finish writing off) a car. I could lease the Prius for 2, 3, 4 years until a newer, more economic car (perhaps an eletric one) comes out and renew my lease. As far as repairs go, if I'm under dealer warranty, they cover the repair costs.
menri005 10 months ago
@menri005 My Prius is 10 years old this month - and the battery is holding up just fine - Taxi operators who run Prius cars report that that the cars last up to 700,000 including the battery! No engine belt driven alternators/compressors etc means very long life, low maintance and ultra high reliabillityy - my Prius is the best thing I've ever owned - an long may it last.
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo
it's not distance that kills of the battery, it's time. it's going bad even when it's in the garage. so cabbies won't have problems with it because they write a car off in a few years. you will get trouble after a few years, and at that point toyota will replace it free of charge because they can't affort bad press. but that's not the point, the new battery has to be made, and the old one scrapped.
rasmAn2 9 months ago
@rasmAn2 Ten years old and still going strong on my 40 mile commute - never had a car last so long and so well
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo The battery is holding up well after 10 years because the stupid car doesn't use the battery much for long trips you idiot. When your just coasting along its using the engine to power it.
mattg889 9 months ago
@mattg889 Until a few months ago, I worked at a power station for ten years, that commute involved driving up a small mountain called 'Sire's hill' then all the electcticity I generated coming down the other side would propel me through the town at the bottom all the way to work - that battery has seen plenty of use and has saved me a fortune in fuel - Prius will beat anything for fuel economey in hilly country - even those unplesent stick shift 'econobox' diesels.
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo That hill and the power you got from it would only amount to probably %20 of your commute. I wouldn't think you were driving through a 40 mile long town... Tell me, for how much of your commute would it truly be using the battery? With my guess of %20 above, battery has only had about 2 years of actual use then. Battery life depends a lot on use, not on miles driven.
mattg889 9 months ago
@mattg889 PS - do you own a Prius - If not, go and buy one - you'll grow to love it :-))
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo If I buy any hybrid it will be the Ford Fusion! The more I read about the Prius the worse it sounds to me!
Keep in mind I never said the Prius is not a efficient car (although it isn't as efficient as it should be!), I am just saying your battery is holding up well because you don't use it as much as you think. The battery is one of the most prevalent problems with the Prius. It is only used at under 45mph. Do you really make your entire 40 mile commute at less than 45mph?
mattg889 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo btw, You do realize that that mileage from the taxi's is actually in km. Look it up, it translates to about 435,000 Miles. Still not to shabby, but that was probably on one very lucky Prius. And even then that story as far as I can tell is a... story. The highest real report I have found was around 300,000 miles.
mattg889 9 months ago
@mattg889 300,000 miles and as a taxi at that - I'd be happy with that. Battery in my car kicks in at any speed to assist the engine - apart from some early failures caused by cleaning products used to keep the factory clean getting in to the battery cells, the battery is more reliable then most cars - Fusion sounds good, as for the Prius, Toyota's 10 year head start has given them plenty of time to improve in the eficiency of the latest cars over my 10 year old model.
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo A car that's running 24/7 will last longer than a car that isn't. Even with city traffic. (everything stays at running temp, including batteries) They have just as many reports of all there other cars going over 300,000 as well. It's not really that surprising...
And everything I have read, the electric motor in the Prius simply cant propel the car at over 45, at least on US models. That is on older models like yours, I can't find much about the current ones.
mattg889 9 months ago
@mattg889 Taxi's have a hard life - 300,000 is no mean feat! And that taxi company one has done 1,000,000km! Mine is 10 years old and looks new, the motor is programmed to not propel the car on its own over 45mph as it is more efficient to run on the engine at those speeds - but it does assist the car at any speed when you floor it - even at 100mph. Don't read up on it - go and buy one, until you've actually one one, you just won't understand why Prius owners are the happiest drivers of all.
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo haha, its funny how you keep raising the number and switching back to km to make it look better...
I didn't know we were talking about the assist when flooring it. You floor it a lot? That changes a lot... If you floor it a lot then your battery is probably a good one. Odd question, whats your avg mpg? (or km/l)
I'd still plan to buy a Fusion if I ever have the money. Perhaps a used one. :-)
mattg889 9 months ago
@mattg889 The actual figures are in km, the battery lasted 700,000 km, the car, with a new battery has made it to 1,000,000km and is still going!!! (can't be bothered to work that out in miles) mine gets plenty of entheuastic moments on the pedal. currently showing 62mpg
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo Sorry, I find it to be pretty quick to convert with the calculators on the internet. I have seen first hand many other cars and especially trucks with over 1.6 mil km on them, 1 mil km is pretty good, but still. Not to bad a mileage either, with my non-hybrid Taurus I can get 40 if I want to... That's why I don't think there as efficient as they should be. I don't think any hybrid is at this time.
haha, yea that would be a really big number in inches lol.
mattg889 9 months ago
@mattg889 Trucks are different - 40mpg?? rather have 60 thanks - that saves me a lot of money over 600,000 miles......
Try a Prius - you'll like it : )
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo It would take me about that many miles to make up for the extra cost of the car. Not to mention when the batteries go... I'm waiting until they have a little better mileage.
mattg889 9 months ago
@mattg889 Don't think so! Look forward to the Ford Fusion Hybrid - will be interesting to see Ford's take on the Prius
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@mattg889 PS - I was tempted to convert the figures to inches - that would look REALLY good...! ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo The battery saved the engine from having to run all the time - even when not moving Battery efficiency 20% (actually it's much more then that) engine efficiency in traffic - about 1%, battery life in traffic - about 700,0000 miles - ask the Prius taxi operators.
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
@menri005 if you dont want to pay so much for gas, spend around 1000 for pretty much any 90s 4 cyl. engine, get 40 mpgs, dont harm the enviroment, and save over 20,000 off the initial investment. But maybey thats just me, maybey im the only smart one lol
Camarosindahood 9 months ago
@menri005 you have a prius, don't you lol
GR3B3N 9 months ago
@menri005 Horses are bad for the enviroment!!, they make gas, they eat the grass, and the accelleration and handling are terrible, cyclists are just as bad with all that sweating and bikes are even slower then horses, AND they have to eat more, putting a strain on agriculture!! ;-))
ChuffChuffWoo 8 months ago
But the Prius uses batteries they say..? The problem is the Prius is made in a factory with parts sourced from component suppliers around the world, and then shipped to the customers home country. Unlike other cars that I guess just appear in the show room overnight, having been created by fairies out of pixie dust. Modern shipping is so efficient it only takes a few gallons of fuel to perform the whole Prius logistics operation, alas I've no idea how much pixie dust you need to create a Hummer
ChuffChuffWoo 10 months ago
@ChuffChuffWoo
making engines out of steel, iron, or aluminum is a lot easier than making those batteries, is the point
klined 9 months ago
@klined Batteries are very easy to make - fully automated - and fully recycled - its much easier to recover all the nickel from a hybrid battery then it is to recover the nickle from the steel alloys used to make a Hummer - and the Hummer uses more nickel!! Alas the Prius is made an a factory, all other cars I guess grow on trees
ChuffChuffWoo 9 months ago
hybrids are designed to be fuel efficient in city driving... because thats when the battery actually kicks in. during highway driving its just run on fuel and no battery... this is called BMW paying Top Gear to not mention such things and to advertise the M3 as a more economical car... its all business
goldenwingk 10 months ago
The test is poorly done. If they're driven the Prius behind the BMW the Prius would have gotten better gas mileage. It is sad when people create flawed tests to prove their own bias.
jpinard 10 months ago
Let’s see what have I owned over the years, Mustang II, Dodge Dart, F-100, VW Rabbit “Diesel”, Dodge Ram 4X4, Bronco 4X4, Mazda 2000, Acura Integra, Mazda 626, F-150, BMW 325i, Toyota 4-Runner, Jeep Wrangler, Toyota Land Cruiser, Mustang GT and currently a Toyota Prius and I like it.
emillluk 10 months ago
I just want a hybrid so I can act like Gerald on South Park
simplyphenomenal 11 months ago
my parents have a prius.... I like my V8 chevelle better
sscaerorulz 11 months ago
@sscaerorulz
Uhhh yeah....LOL...They thought their little Prius is cool...ITs far from it...
scott93257 11 months ago
he is %100 RIGHT
MrMrsean2011 11 months ago
As much as I love Toyota, I'm really not fond of the prius. I'd rather just buy a small regular gas car that gets a good amount of gas mileage while still getting way more power than a prius. Diesel cars seem like a good idea and I do support bio diesel production.
Kunaimaster1 11 months ago
@crazyboyxx Oh yeah your so right because everywhere from The Artic to Antartica is melting. Wait no Antartica is actually not melting and actually gaining in land mass. And the oceans and volcanos emit more CO2 than humans ever did. Whatever global warming really is, it's just a natual occurance, humans didn't do anything. And I didn't base my entire opinion on a top gear video, just an observation. Take that for an opinion
skateman96 1 year ago
Want to save the earth? become a scientist and dedicate your life to invent an effecient fuel. Like finding a way to easily make hydrogen.
Just don't buy those crappy Prius's!
1 more thing: the trouble with batteries is that they are worthless after 3 years. So what are they gonne do with them then? replacing them might cost more then the car is worth at that moment. So they'll dump 'm?.. after 3 years...
Get a German car, they last :-)
Or French, those will do efficiency aswell.
EliteGhost001 1 year ago
@EliteGhost001
The batteries are just fine after 3 years. I do not own a Prius, but am looking at all fuel efficient cars and the batteries Toyota uses do an excellent job and last a very, very long time. Don't post speculation, don't post bias, post facts.
jpinard 10 months ago
@jpinard
it is a know FACT that batteries start/show their effects of wearing off. Though still improving, they don't last as long as a car, also a FACT. The Prius saving fuel by using a batterie? false. Because the car has an extra battery it has more weight to carry around. Also, like when powering the lamps of your bicycle, the engine has to burn more fuel because it is also heavy to load those batteries. FACT.
Prius' should be banned, just like hummers (except for the US army, they like m)
EliteGhost001 10 months ago
Well I own a 99 Camry, And i love it. Nothing wrong with it.
cars2cars 1 year ago
I will always own a V8. Unless Toyota can make one as good as an American muscle for the same price, i will never own a Toyota.
txmetalcobra 1 year ago
I rather have the polo than a toyota gayis
nismo007 1 year ago
If you want to save the planet, don't even bother because there is nothing wrong with it. Global warming is a myth. If the temperature is changing, it's just one of earth's cycles. Probably something that we haven't been around long enough to understand.
The polar bears are fine, the trees are fine. The only thing that we really do need to worry about is the rain-forests.
TheWatzitooya 1 year ago
@TheWatzitooya and not to mention jeremy and james drove across the north pole and the pole didn't look like it was melting up one bit
skateman96 1 year ago
@TheWatzitooya Good point, and I'd like to add we have to worry about all those doppy, tree-hugging liberals who are in power trying to change the country for the worse. Such hubris to think we (=white American males) are causing the Earth to warm up.
Kaniela6759 11 months ago
hi.i drive a prius 2010 and get 63 miles/gallon combined and the best i got was 69/gallon combined.i love all the gadgets it has and its technology is brilliant.clarkson does not like japaneese reliable cars.ask any toyota owners ,toyotas will be the reliable car they hav ever driven.
rexvarughese 1 year ago
@rexvarughese It's not about reliability, It's about the huge mistake that people make by thinking they are getting a better deal and saving the planet.
txmetalcobra 1 year ago
@rexvarughese You're stupid just like all Prius drivers that go 45 on the freeway and bullshit that its reliable my friend has one and has turn into a retarded tree hugger, his transmission broke and my bike goes 0-60 faster than the Gayus.Get a real car European or American.dipshit.
kirbyswarp 1 year ago
@rexvarughese Reliable maybe, but not aesthetically pleasing in any way, to say the least...and rather un-emotional. IMO a car just needs an engine - preferably a V8 or R5 to really become more than a bus or a streetcar.
on91 10 months ago
@rexvarughese this video was from 2008 retard, those models averaged about 45 mpg I have seen it myself. and just because clarkson doesn't like the prius, doesnt mean he hates all toyotas.
Mycoughlin 7 months ago
If you want to be stupid and do something economical, buy a horse. It'll still get you there faster than a Prius.
11dee6 1 year ago
Prius is for cocks.
MikeLenoch5 1 year ago
In short, crusader1987 has no idea what he's talking about, but hey, thanks for sounding like an idiot. The only cocks are people like you, who have no idea what they're talking about and are to ignorant to look up any info yourself and leave it to the 'genius' jerk clarkson.
loweredtalon 1 year ago
The fact of the matter is this: What kind of person drives a Prius, or any other hybrid car? Answer: Someone who wants to brag about how they're saving the world by driving said hybrid and then take that hybrid onto the highway and go 70 MPH and get 25 MPG out of it because it has an underpowered engine that also has to lug around heavy batteries and an electric motor at high speeds where the electric motor is useless.
In short, the Prius is driven by cocks.
Crusader1987 1 year ago
I prefer to reuse a classic car.
mundotaku 1 year ago
Prius ownership should be a mark of shame
illlite 1 year ago
@illlite It IS a mark of shame. Always has been. Just like any Toyota/Honda/Nissan product.
TheDullahan 1 year ago
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@TheDullahan Surely you're not counting the legendary Toyota Hilux!
Flugabwehrkanone 1 year ago
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I can get almost 450 miles/tank out of my '07 Silverado. Combined 18mpg for a truck. 15 city, 20 Hwy For truck that weighs 5000lbs and 315hp. A 2004 Land Rover (the cost equivalent) gets a combined 15mpg and 282hp and runs on premium. My cost of gas is less, maintenance is less and insurance is less. I guess my point is don't knock a new truck when it's driving around. It's a lot safer for the environment than a prius. New 2008 prius was 27K, my tru
rumschlager 1 year ago
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I can get almost 450 miles/tank out of my '07 Silverado. Combined 18mpg for a truck. 15 city, 20 Hwy For truck that weighs 5000lbs and 315hp. A 2004 Land Rover (the cost equivalent) gets a combined 15mpg and 282hp and runs on premium. My cost of gas is less, maintenance is less and insurance is less. I guess my point is don't knock a new truck when it's driving around. It's a lot safer for the environment than a prius. New 2008 prius was 27K, my truck used w/ 29,000 mi on it, 24k w/ warranty.
rumschlager 1 year ago
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I can get almost 450 miles/tank out of my '07 Silverado. Combined 18mpg for a truck. 15 city, 20 Hwy For truck that weighs 5000lbs and 315hp. A 2004 Land Rover (the cost equivalent) gets a combined 15mpg and 282hp and runs on premium. My cost of gas is less, maintenance is less and insurance is less. I guess my point is don't knock a new truck when it's driving around. It's a lot safer for the environment than a prius. New 2008 prius was 27K, my truck used w/ 29,000 mi on it, 24k w/ warranty.
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rumschlager 1 year ago
he describe the process of all modern consumption. if you want to help the environment, don't buy all that crap you have.
bin1127 1 year ago 12
@bin1127
If people thought of the Prius the same way they thought of their computers shit would be different.
PsychoEditor 1 year ago
a prius is a fashion statement for rich americans
Jkub101 1 year ago 2
to create a Prius, like another kind of machine, it`s necesary a lot of electricity, a lot of petrol for the tires, for the tubes, for the plastics inside and outside, a lot of petrol for create the glasses, the wires... at the end of all of this, if you think because your car has a battery in the trunk, you`re saving the world... well... you was haunted for the marketing-guys...
fuzter2007 1 year ago