drop me ur fb coz it makes it much easier 4 me to tell u bout the new Griminal diss i just uploaded and ozzie b who was in forward riddum and fire camp is performin live on the set its hype like garage back in the day. hype
@Grimeontop thats not the point yea he got merked but he started grime he's a pioneer u idiot and whers devlin now in some waste band u seen GIANT what the fuck is that u wont catch wiley making brass tunes like that.
r this new layout is parrin it, they wont let me give the video n e stars man. got another fresh GRIMINAL DISS on my ting in hd 4 ya an its hype sidewinder 04 still hola.
this is fire still, holla wen u up sutin else yh but hear hear what theres a BRAND NEW SEND 4 GRIMINAL AND MZ BRATT UP NOW on my ting. get at me its in HD
this is fire still, holla wen u up sutin else yh but hear hear what theres a BRAND NEW SEND 4 GRIMINAL AND MZ BRATT UP NOW on my ting. get at me its in HD
@TheKyuubiUnleashed LOOOOOOOOOOOOL YOUR A FUCKING JOKE. THATS THE WHOLE POINT ITS A REMIX OF EVERY GRIME ARTIST THAT HAS TAKEN A SHOT AT WILEY,. HAHAH UR A FOOL
Im sure wiley sent for most of these guys on a low than hype it up on mic lol. GH killed him wretch went in hard frisco got him plus a few more guys did, but wiley is good doh.
Great Devlin up u did. ive got 1 SICK VIDEO THAT ALL U DEVLIN LOVERS WILL LIKE ON MA TING STILL CHECK IT OUT BRIGHT LIGHTS BUT THE GREEN SCREEN AINT EDITED YET
There is dead beef in this... What's that about then?? You post this on the second of Jan 2010... When Skeppy and Wiley deaded it ages ago... Just sounds like a guy that don't like Wiley, but can't slew him himself so he's getting everyone else's flows and making a little video for youtube loool
What You Chattin Bout You Prick ! Wileys The King He Made Grime what it is 2day but i think hes a twat when it comes to sending for people if all of these artists were Close then the scene would be alot Larger ! check my channel b4 you talk shit bout me making a lil video yeah ! and i made this when the trim beef started again soo ...
naah it werent, check out zip it up, and in the country... they deaded it just after that.
and sam, why put it out on the second of jan, i dont give a shit when you made the video... furthermore sending for people is just dumb, especially with what happened between wiley and bashy...
@reczy "furthermore sending for people is just dumb, especially with what happened between wiley and bashy" Did you even read what i wrote you twat ? thats what im trying to say ! i upd it on the 2nd on jan cos thats when he sent for trim muppet ! im saying its a bad thing for the scene ! you just ended it yourself m8 your saying what im saying and still trying to tlk shit
these mcs diss wiley altogether but but he could clash all these at the same time and still wipe the floor with them lol DEVLIN is a cock, silly little kid, he's shit, community outkast up against wot you call it or headbanger? LOL suck out
Speechless!! Soul stirring.. Just downloaded it at DownloadMusic[DOTT]im , .. download it, plug ur ear phone, close ur eyes, listen to the beat and forget the world.
u do kno wiley dont give a shit bout these cats dissin him, wiley can murk any1 in da grime scene u dun kno. Wiley created grime, theyre spittin his style, no1 can ever b better den wiley, 7 mixtapes and like 5 albums...... nuff said
we all have to give it up to wiley, he has sent back to almost everyone & done good....... rised above it all still doing his thing.. like 20 sends from all these big artists plus the ones that arent on here.. must be fucking annoying.. just get out of one bit of beef & go straight into another.. but obv he gets himself into it to..
lol they didn't send for wiley for no reason he has sprayed indirects about all of them before hand.. most of its just comercial hype anyway to get more views, downloads and shit..
see look i am a bigger fan of wileys music, dont reali think trims done much... but listen to the lyrics... trim is all about wiley does him over cause of dis. Where as wiley talks about himself rather than clashing trim... and he always does it, i dont get it ?! surely u gotta understand where im coming from... all of the above artists hit him where it hurts, wiley goes around in circles than getting to the point. E.g trim goin on bout him touching up kids lol... that gotta hurt mann
goodz, bashy, Devlin, Skepta, (frisco sorta) and dot rotten killed him I reckon.
98catslayer 2 months ago
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UK MUSIC STAR 8T2 SENDS FOR CHIPMUNK
8T2Artist 4 months ago
@airwelshdan bashy
AssCandid 5 months ago
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who is at 1:24 ???
AIRWelshDan 6 months ago
TRIM!!!!! LOL
karkorot 7 months ago
who is the artist at 0.45 ??
MrUglyadam 7 months ago
@MrUglyadam Durrty Goodz
rickpat67 6 months ago
whats the song at 0:45?
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donhonki1 7 months ago
skeptas beef with wiley is all fake anyway
iambeasttbf 8 months ago 3
Ghetts attempt = FAIL
Bashys attempt = FAIL
Skptas attempt = FAIL
Dizzees attempt = FAIL
Devlins/ Duurty Goodz attempt = WIN
The only 2 MCs that can come close to Wiley
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donhonki1 8 months ago
@officialwiley Yeah definitely, you need to get someone on that and put it on your channel
KamWestLondon 8 months ago
how fake is this where are my dubs back for all these mc's
officialwiley 8 months ago 9
@officialwiley Your My Fav Mc, Just Put This Up To Show All The People Who Have Sent For You. Iv Got Loads Of Your Freestyles Up!
SamSurrealDJ 8 months ago
@SamSurrealDJ you shoould of put wiley sending for evryone on the end that would have made it better, good video though
RyanDavis2306 8 months ago
@officialwiley Devlin destroys you wiley anyday mate! OT Crew!
ChrisSoton2 7 months ago
@officialwiley roll deep - whem im ere ... ''could never say i roll cheap when im ere''
UkGrimeTAKEOVER 2 months ago
Who's that at 4:00?
JuggaloRob100 9 months ago
@JuggaloRob100 Skepta
ste0555 9 months ago
Devlin ripped the shit out of Wiley lol
JuggaloRob100 9 months ago
so ur sayin dot rotten shit cus made a new tune for wiley parrin wiley marj and everyfing
butchaa99 10 months ago
bashy is shit when it comes to classhing he resort to mom bars and sisters and batty boy ting pussyclart
SMOKEYDANYUNGSTARS 10 months ago
@SMOKEYDANYUNGSTARS lol bashy hurts there feelings bad, look what he did to ghetts aswel as wiley
TheNbakiller1 9 months ago
oooo shit man got pard!!!!!
dubz1994 11 months ago
not reli da 1 person hu emotionally fukd wiley up wz bashy he playd wiv his emotionals wer bashy wz boyin him on cam
butchaa99 11 months ago
Doogz is the only one that comes close to winning
Deanisalibertine 11 months ago 8
@Deanisalibertine close lol he destoryed him so did devlin so did lethal so did rotten and so did ghetts
TheNbakiller1 9 months ago
@Deanisalibertine you blatantly forgot devlin, bashy and oh wait... everyone else on the track.
MrJakeLSD 7 months ago
beefin ha ha give me joke just sad tits tryin to put the 2 top dog down tell am a sling it
carmine378 1 year ago
Where can I find that old speical d set where their slewin roll deep with the redrum bit merkring trim?
itsjdubz 1 year ago
of course everyone wants a go at wiley, its the equivalent of people tryin to beef with Jay or Em in the states, just punks tryin to get promo !!!
Elecutionist 1 year ago
whats the backing beat for bashys slew whats the ghetts back track too
3ng0w 1 year ago
whats the backing beat for bashys slew
3ng0w 1 year ago
who was it at 2:27 and the name of the diss
TheJamaicanMusic 1 year ago
@TheJamaicanMusic ghetts
TheNbakiller1 9 months ago
trims is the lates an is the shitis out of the rest of umm...hmmm...
tiggieiswiggie 1 year ago
Devlin :)
RapstarDanny123 1 year ago
Bashy got personal!
itsjustgoodmusic 1 year ago
@itsjustgoodmusic lol init bashy hits nerves, ghetto got hot
MrKDis 1 year ago
goodz merks him
kickassfc 1 year ago
The best send was Dot Rottens one!
NewGrime 1 year ago
Who's the rapper at 3:31 ?
BlackCeizer 1 year ago
@BlackCeizer Its ghetto
NewGrime 1 year ago
@NewGrime ohh? i think i didn't recognize him cuz i don't know the tune,
what's it called anyway?
BlackCeizer 1 year ago
@BlackCeizer Ghetts
AIRWelshDan 1 year ago
@BlackCeizer ghetts
TheNbakiller1 9 months ago
Whats the 2nd tune?
Unitedrapfan 1 year ago
this video is a showing of wileys diss beef
grimestandard 1 year ago
fort this was "NEW"... dickhead tinggg
MrAdamjedwards1512 1 year ago
who is that?, his diss starts at 1:21, i know the voice, just cant remember the face lmao
FidgeTz1 1 year ago
@FidgeTz1 i think its bashy
chriscolaco 1 year ago
haha, wiley is the king xx
scottyere2kai9 1 year ago
so isit just clips from a set then, aye:) respect to grime scotland
TheFormula22 1 year ago
DEVLIN! NUTTIEST DUPPY!
ALWAYS THE BEST IN GRIME/UK! NOONE CAN TOUCH HIM!
DMSORROWDM 1 year ago
@DMSORROWDM
calm down ....
boat142 1 year ago
whys skepta on there, skepta n wiley are well good mates ;S
scottyere2kai9 1 year ago
@scottyere2ka Back in may/june 09 Skepta and Wiley both had albums coming out , and they had a frienddly battle as to see who sold more... Skepta won
1MRTX 1 year ago
Whats the third tune to drop?
18Douggie 1 year ago
its not fake its been put together. they have all sent for wiley.
FlashBackkFam 1 year ago
baitly fake it got mixed together!
MrBlaze95 1 year ago
Your a Goof why would you say its new Blud
LilPhatzzz 1 year ago
Anyone know the song or freestyle at 4.26????????
AREYOUDIZZYBLAD786 1 year ago
search dog man james
benjaminluiswhite95 1 year ago
yoi had dis months ago hows it new
96grimeybarz 1 year ago
LOL Wileys had beef with everyone bruv goodz murked him off!!!
RiddlerArtist 1 year ago
Who is the guy spittin over dont phone me pelase anyone??? reply
BMP786 1 year ago
@BMP786 Durrty Goodz
cleggy187 1 year ago
some on please tell me the song or freestyle or what ever is at 2:28???
01283rep 1 year ago
who is the one 4;43
bubason2 1 year ago
@bubason2 dot rotten, dont know track name
cleggy187 1 year ago
@bubason2 Dot Rotten - Wiley Cant Diss Hoodstars - one of the best of the lot imo
bIimeh 1 month ago
were can i get dat kano on ghetts beat??
amozg 1 year ago
Wiley, you got merrkeed mann. Whos the third mc ?
TheDurtyDubz 1 year ago
whats the song that starts at 0.46 ?
julienhammink 1 year ago
@julienhammink Durrty Goodz - Panties, Bra, Sniff, Coke And Cameras.
TheDurtyDubz 1 year ago
GOODZ, DEVZ, GHETTS killed it raaaarrrwh
Skepta's swag man
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reloadfmradio 1 year ago
@Grimeontop thats not the point yea he got merked but he started grime he's a pioneer u idiot and whers devlin now in some waste band u seen GIANT what the fuck is that u wont catch wiley making brass tunes like that.
KamWestLondon 1 year ago
why they talking shit man about wiley Wiley made grime
swazia73 1 year ago
@swazia73 everything there saying is the truth lol
TheNbakiller1 9 months ago
r this new layout is parrin it, they wont let me give the video n e stars man. got another fresh GRIMINAL DISS on my ting in hd 4 ya an its hype sidewinder 04 still hola.
reloadfmradio 1 year ago
bashy killed wiley more dan any1, touched alot of wileys nurves wid that 3style.
but yeh this is all old
jayts09 1 year ago
bashy is fukin shit
8RaNDoM8 1 year ago
hes bin murked ant he man
i reckon 1 on 1s wiley would smoke em apart from skepta
good murks tho !!!!!
goober20091 1 year ago
does any1 no da track dat starts at 4:24?
MrJAKZbashir 1 year ago
Devlins is the hardest i reckon :)
xMOTiV3Zx 1 year ago
yh i subd ya still abeg u check the new GRIMINAL, MZ BRATT AND LADY L DISS ON MY PAGE ABEG U WATCH IT IN HD ITS VERY HYPE like garage in 2004.
reloadfmradio 1 year ago
its probably new because he mixed it and only put it on this year!
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this is fire still, holla wen u up sutin else yh but hear hear what theres a BRAND NEW SEND 4 GRIMINAL AND MZ BRATT UP NOW on my ting. get at me its in HD
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this is fire still, holla wen u up sutin else yh but hear hear what theres a BRAND NEW SEND 4 GRIMINAL AND MZ BRATT UP NOW on my ting. get at me its in HD
reloadfmradio 1 year ago
this is fire still, holla wen u up sutin else yh but hear hear what theres a BRAND NEW SEND 4 GRIMINAL UP NOW on my ting. get at me its in HD
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TheKyuubiUnleashed 1 year ago
Lmao Whats Fake ??
SamSurrealDJ 1 year ago
@TheKyuubiUnleashed LOOOOOOOOOOOOL YOUR A FUCKING JOKE. THATS THE WHOLE POINT ITS A REMIX OF EVERY GRIME ARTIST THAT HAS TAKEN A SHOT AT WILEY,. HAHAH UR A FOOL
Block31WHL 1 year ago
@Block31WHL
What you on about you twat?
I just said the It's fake because the title implied that It was real.
It's not a remix done by the actual Grime Movement itself.
... Dont fucking swear at me you stupid prick.
TheKyuubiUnleashed 1 year ago
@TheKyuubiUnleashed loool "dont fucking swear at me" hahahahahah u poof did i hurt your feelings ahh what a idiot fuck all u prick u dont know shit
Block31WHL 1 year ago
@Block31WHL
Fucking idiot boy.
No. You're just being an internet warrior.
Hold tight you.
TheKyuubiUnleashed 1 year ago
@TheKyuubiUnleashed lol u dumb dickhead
KarmageddonUK 1 year ago
this is NOT new that bashy ting is bareeee old.... wasteman
kevstar2k8 1 year ago
why do people call wiley a pedo and a crack head ?
gffhhgghfg 1 year ago
ur smashing it with dat upload massive still i just upd 1 GRIMINAL DISS VIDEO on my ting still its in hd holla at dat yh
reloadfmradio 1 year ago
Goodz one is too much
flakone 1 year ago
evryone has sent for wiley but none of them can stop him. wiley is the face of grime
KamWestLondon 1 year ago 25
Im sure wiley sent for most of these guys on a low than hype it up on mic lol. GH killed him wretch went in hard frisco got him plus a few more guys did, but wiley is good doh.
XShadowPrince 1 year ago
@KamWestLondon
Thats why Devlin merked Wiley..
Bashy merked him...
Dizzee merked him...
Grimeontop 1 year ago
@KamWestLondon we need to someone to make a 6.59 of me and all my bars im sure it will all be clear after that
officialwiley 8 months ago
devlin murrkss it!
aida65 2 years ago
classic dubs devs merked wiley
Glitteringent09 2 years ago
Lol everyone hates Wiley now lmao!
RaveInMyGrave 2 years ago
murtazaali16 Thats Ghetts lmaooo
badboybray95 2 years ago
whos guy after bashy?
sharpzzz1 2 years ago
ghetto
jacksagayboy 1 year ago
who sings the richard bit
murtazaali16 2 years ago
Who's the dude talkin bout YouTube videos!?
callovesbec 2 years ago
Video would be a lot better if at the end, you put up all of Wiley's replies one after the other... As he did dead all of them
Channel2491 2 years ago
@Channel2491 not dot rotten or doogz
purplenurps 2 years ago
@Channel2491 or trim
purplenurps 2 years ago
@Channel2491 nahhhh u lied
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Great Devlin up u did. ive got 1 SICK VIDEO THAT ALL U DEVLIN LOVERS WILL LIKE ON MA TING STILL CHECK IT OUT BRIGHT LIGHTS BUT THE GREEN SCREEN AINT EDITED YET
reloadfmradio 2 years ago
ITS NOT THIS DEVILIN !
ResidentSo19Man 2 years ago
There is dead beef in this... What's that about then?? You post this on the second of Jan 2010... When Skeppy and Wiley deaded it ages ago... Just sounds like a guy that don't like Wiley, but can't slew him himself so he's getting everyone else's flows and making a little video for youtube loool
reczy 2 years ago
What You Chattin Bout You Prick ! Wileys The King He Made Grime what it is 2day but i think hes a twat when it comes to sending for people if all of these artists were Close then the scene would be alot Larger ! check my channel b4 you talk shit bout me making a lil video yeah ! and i made this when the trim beef started again soo ...
SamSurrealDJ 2 years ago
@SamSurrealDJ Have you got the link to the full set link of that ghetts murking wiley?
purplenurps 2 years ago
skepta n wiley never had beef, it was a little joke ting to see who sells more
BugiiRoaaaaaath 2 years ago 10
naah it werent, check out zip it up, and in the country... they deaded it just after that.
and sam, why put it out on the second of jan, i dont give a shit when you made the video... furthermore sending for people is just dumb, especially with what happened between wiley and bashy...
prick.
reczy 2 years ago
@reczy "furthermore sending for people is just dumb, especially with what happened between wiley and bashy" Did you even read what i wrote you twat ? thats what im trying to say ! i upd it on the 2nd on jan cos thats when he sent for trim muppet ! im saying its a bad thing for the scene ! you just ended it yourself m8 your saying what im saying and still trying to tlk shit
SamSurrealDJ 2 years ago
so if youre saying its bad thing for the scene why you puttin this up dikhed
reczy 2 years ago
in the country was after the beef was donel, he even says there boys in the song
Clarkeyrules1 2 years ago
obv not seeings as wiley put another tune back.. it's called barnet..
anyway whatever, its done now so its dead end of.
reczy 2 years ago
@BugiiRoaaaaaath Nah achually brva, Them been beefing for time fam x
charlbertDUBSTEP 1 year ago
@charlbertDUBSTEP no they aint beefing fam
chriscolaco 1 year ago
@reczy lol
swazia73 1 year ago
Safe for that G, didn't think it was ghetts
kingmalachi 2 years ago
@kingmalachi na it aint its Frisco
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JasThind1 2 years ago
whats the big deal with hating wiley:L? x
140joshh 2 years ago
cos they cant do he has/can
grimekid2010 2 years ago
Who's the first mc chattin about roll deep so cheap?
kingmalachi 2 years ago
ghettz
turboboy2 2 years ago
@kingmalachi frisco
thepellster 2 years ago
thats frisco back in the day in nappa check the clash vid on youtube
omgwowowow 2 years ago
how is devlin shit u fool he's better than most ppl out there now
mikell187 2 years ago 2
these mcs diss wiley altogether but but he could clash all these at the same time and still wipe the floor with them lol DEVLIN is a cock, silly little kid, he's shit, community outkast up against wot you call it or headbanger? LOL suck out
Bravowun 2 years ago
HaHa Siiiiiiccccckk
OfficiallyTruthsMc 2 years ago
and dont get it twisted most of what u hear about Wiley is just LYRICS just to make u laugh or think wiley is shit its nothing personal!
ALL these MCs are cool with Wiley and rate him!! no one hates wiley lol
grimesNEO 2 years ago 2
lmao @ some of these comments
U lot r missing the point!
Wiley kept GRIME EXCITING AND COMPETETIVE all these years! this aint BEEF its all CLASHES to keep people on thier toes u get me.
Theres only ONE throne and that belongs to Wiley the King
Sick video 5 stars
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yh but skepta did better on the 1 i jus upppd on my ting still. way better and no 1 aint got it its hypppppppppppppe
reloadfmradio 2 years ago
gud
barrettkiid 2 years ago
devlin and ghettz merkeddd wiley
MrJordanking95 2 years ago
bashy iz in dis but it dnt say it at da top? :S still HARRD thoo!
bigsi93 2 years ago
Speechless!! Soul stirring.. Just downloaded it at DownloadMusic[DOTT]im , .. download it, plug ur ear phone, close ur eyes, listen to the beat and forget the world.
KatrinaSkinner501 2 years ago
why they all hatin on wiley?
rutakinthefukinpiss 2 years ago
coz wiley neva stops sendin
scribe12 2 years ago
Wiley has made more money than all these niggas put together lmfao now whos the best
mike2k28 2 years ago 2
Soulja Boy has more money then the whole grime scene but he aint better then the worst mc in grime..... its not about money
SamSurrealDJ 2 years ago
realest of real talk people dont seem to understand wen people talk about whos better its not whos got more money.....its bout quality
clipbizzle 2 years ago
its not about money..
BAXJP 2 years ago
WOOONDER Wiley Gettin Fuked Over In This
POP POP
GRIMETQ1 2 years ago
its hard bein at the top!!!
MrBillz81 2 years ago
Man blessed for fighting wileys corner like but dont matter how much music you make if its shit
quality not quantity man
wiley made grime but now these mc's make it better, bigger and take it to the next step faam
KiDa38 2 years ago
u do kno wiley dont give a shit bout these cats dissin him, wiley can murk any1 in da grime scene u dun kno. Wiley created grime, theyre spittin his style, no1 can ever b better den wiley, 7 mixtapes and like 5 albums...... nuff said
TheUKGrimeTing 2 years ago 2
everyone who is on this video is bettter then wiley..thats why they schooled him.. huff said
BAXJP 2 years ago
i dont care devlin shut wiley up.. hard response!.. i know devlin aint the best but i think he is one of, and much better than wiley.
jordanwhu 2 years ago
wtz tune from 2:28 to 2;42
GRIM3ST4R 2 years ago
this is good 4 the sence wiley needs tellin he ant the best
GRIM3ST4R 2 years ago
he is these are all old
southernfamble 2 years ago
we all have to give it up to wiley, he has sent back to almost everyone & done good....... rised above it all still doing his thing.. like 20 sends from all these big artists plus the ones that arent on here.. must be fucking annoying.. just get out of one bit of beef & go straight into another.. but obv he gets himself into it to..
GrimeGalore 2 years ago 3
lol they didn't send for wiley for no reason he has sprayed indirects about all of them before hand.. most of its just comercial hype anyway to get more views, downloads and shit..
AaronVinnie 2 years ago
Wileys shit.
liltirent54 2 years ago
long story short though...
Wiley doesnt clash direct, its more discreet. He also talks about how great he is.
Trim, devlin, bashy etc... they all just get on with it and say how it is through the lyrics about him bein a cokey n stuff.
Wileys music is quality, but i dunno, as i moved onto other artists i dont think wiley is as good as he use to be.
joeypbeatz 2 years ago 3
well not really its just that one last diss
Malee1995 2 years ago
see look i am a bigger fan of wileys music, dont reali think trims done much... but listen to the lyrics... trim is all about wiley does him over cause of dis. Where as wiley talks about himself rather than clashing trim... and he always does it, i dont get it ?! surely u gotta understand where im coming from... all of the above artists hit him where it hurts, wiley goes around in circles than getting to the point. E.g trim goin on bout him touching up kids lol... that gotta hurt mann
joeypbeatz 2 years ago
goodz kills it all day standards
SHADYdecSOUL 2 years ago