The group that changed so many young peoples lives.Every young budding guitar player in the 1960's tried to learn their masterpices like Walk don't run and perfidia - this is also an icon.
@overbrookXXX Bruce Springsteen once recorded an entire album with a cassette porta. A few decades ago I said to someone that I don't like cassettes, because of the poor sound. He said that if it's good enough for Bruce Springsteen, it's good enough for me. I disagreed; if it's good enough for Springsteen, it's his problem, not mine.
As I said, I am not really sure about what the word ”masterpiece” means, but if it means what is described here, it seems to be pretty meaningless.
@overbrookXXX Here's, by the way, the first lines of the CD booklet of V-Gold I:
”We are very proud of these recordings – we wanted to return to our roots, and enhance these songs with today's technology. We think we have remained true to the original recordings, and we hope you will agree with us that the sound quality is excellent.” (I hope I didn't make any spelling errors, I quoted the best I can at that speed…). This was written in April 1999, by the way, according to the booklet.
@overbrookXXX Well, I think it was Don who said in an interview when they released their ”Greatest Hits” album in 1980, which was 27 of their old hits re-recorded, most of them in 1979 and 1980, that the reason they made it (or maybe one of the reasons) was that they wanted the old hits to take advantage of the new technology that was developed during those 20 years.
They did the same thing around 2000 (V-Gold 1-4) and the reason seems to be the same this time according to the CD booklet.
@overbrookXXX You shouldn't draw conclusions about people you don't know. That might make you look somewhat stupid in other people's eyes, which on the other hand is your problem, not mine, so maybe I shouldn't care. I can tell you though, that some of your guesses were right and some of them were wrong. Just like rolling a dice after guessing ”higher than 3 or not”.
I was dropping it, but since someone actually wrote again (I almost didn't believe it first) I just had to drop in again, sorry.
@overbrookXXX Well, English is not my native language. Isn't ”Masterpiece” like ”Mästerverk”? Well, I guess I have to look it up then…
Okay, looked it up. At least Google Translate translates it as ”Mästerverk” or ”Mästerstycke” (which is basically the same thing). But I guess I put more value to words than you English speaking guys do. For me Walk, Don't Run was not a masterpiece. A hit, yes, masterpiece, no. I could agree with that Johnny Smith's version was a masterpiece though.
@overbrookXXX Yes, it was a hit, and many hits were from beginners, but if you really listen to it, you can also hear that they were beginners and the track is not perfect in any way at all. I would guess that if you asked the Ventures themselves if they thought that their original version of ”Walk, Don't Run” was a masterpiece, they would probably disagree. Why else would they re-record it so many times? I don't re-record anything that I'm happy with, who does?
@overbrookXXX Have you actually heard the recording?
Unduplicatable doesn't necessary mean good. Errors are probably the hardest thing to duplicate. There are some Hank Marvin fans out there that tries to play exactly like Hank did in his original recordings, the errors included… Why would anyone try to do that? Beats me.
Some people listen to a song and they know who plays it. If it's one of the favourites, it must be good. I prefer to ignore who's playing and really listen instead.
@overbrookXXX The word ”Masterpiece means absolutely nothing to me. I have heard so much ”Masterpiece” that sounds like crap, so I don't care what to call it anymore. I just shake my head and move on.
@overbrookXXX Well, they still sound like beginners on those recordings the very first year, which is very natural on the other hand, since they actually were at that time. As a musician you can easily hear that they didn't play for a very long time (especially Bob on lead) before recording that version. Compare it to the 1980 version and you can hear that he learned a lot during all those 20 years (yes, Bob plays the lead on that version to, which is easy to hear).
Well, it's not 430 albums with unique contents. You'll find the same tunes on several of them. I didn't mean that I've heard all their albums, just that I THINK that I've heard almost all of their (official) recordings, but obviously that was wrong too ;)
If you remove all the albums that contains material from other albums, I think we will land somewhere at 100 or so albums.
I uploaded the "Walk, Dont Run '94" because there was some kind of childish debate about the Shadows' 1970's version vs the Ventures' 1960 and 1964 version. The Ventures did, as you know, several versions released in 1960, 1964, 1969, 1977, 1980, 1999 (WDR 2000), 1999 (V-Gold) and 2000 (V-Gold WDR'64) and maybe more, but most people have only heard the poor 1960 version
The group that changed so many young peoples lives.Every young budding guitar player in the 1960's tried to learn their masterpices like Walk don't run and perfidia - this is also an icon.
cjm52 1 month ago
Love! Love!! Always....
bonzibaby8356 4 months ago
@overbrookXXX Well, I already told you that I don't know what it means. My native language is not English, which I guess is very obvious.
guraknugen 5 months ago
@overbrookXXX Bruce Springsteen once recorded an entire album with a cassette porta. A few decades ago I said to someone that I don't like cassettes, because of the poor sound. He said that if it's good enough for Bruce Springsteen, it's good enough for me. I disagreed; if it's good enough for Springsteen, it's his problem, not mine.
As I said, I am not really sure about what the word ”masterpiece” means, but if it means what is described here, it seems to be pretty meaningless.
guraknugen 5 months ago
@overbrookXXX Here's, by the way, the first lines of the CD booklet of V-Gold I:
”We are very proud of these recordings – we wanted to return to our roots, and enhance these songs with today's technology. We think we have remained true to the original recordings, and we hope you will agree with us that the sound quality is excellent.” (I hope I didn't make any spelling errors, I quoted the best I can at that speed…). This was written in April 1999, by the way, according to the booklet.
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX Well, I think it was Don who said in an interview when they released their ”Greatest Hits” album in 1980, which was 27 of their old hits re-recorded, most of them in 1979 and 1980, that the reason they made it (or maybe one of the reasons) was that they wanted the old hits to take advantage of the new technology that was developed during those 20 years.
They did the same thing around 2000 (V-Gold 1-4) and the reason seems to be the same this time according to the CD booklet.
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX You shouldn't draw conclusions about people you don't know. That might make you look somewhat stupid in other people's eyes, which on the other hand is your problem, not mine, so maybe I shouldn't care. I can tell you though, that some of your guesses were right and some of them were wrong. Just like rolling a dice after guessing ”higher than 3 or not”.
I was dropping it, but since someone actually wrote again (I almost didn't believe it first) I just had to drop in again, sorry.
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX Well, English is not my native language. Isn't ”Masterpiece” like ”Mästerverk”? Well, I guess I have to look it up then…
Okay, looked it up. At least Google Translate translates it as ”Mästerverk” or ”Mästerstycke” (which is basically the same thing). But I guess I put more value to words than you English speaking guys do. For me Walk, Don't Run was not a masterpiece. A hit, yes, masterpiece, no. I could agree with that Johnny Smith's version was a masterpiece though.
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX Yes, it was a hit, and many hits were from beginners, but if you really listen to it, you can also hear that they were beginners and the track is not perfect in any way at all. I would guess that if you asked the Ventures themselves if they thought that their original version of ”Walk, Don't Run” was a masterpiece, they would probably disagree. Why else would they re-record it so many times? I don't re-record anything that I'm happy with, who does?
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX Well, if you can't hear it, I guess there is nothing I can do about it. Not really my problem anyway…
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX Have you actually heard the recording?
Unduplicatable doesn't necessary mean good. Errors are probably the hardest thing to duplicate. There are some Hank Marvin fans out there that tries to play exactly like Hank did in his original recordings, the errors included… Why would anyone try to do that? Beats me.
Some people listen to a song and they know who plays it. If it's one of the favourites, it must be good. I prefer to ignore who's playing and really listen instead.
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX The word ”Masterpiece means absolutely nothing to me. I have heard so much ”Masterpiece” that sounds like crap, so I don't care what to call it anymore. I just shake my head and move on.
guraknugen 6 months ago
@overbrookXXX Well, they still sound like beginners on those recordings the very first year, which is very natural on the other hand, since they actually were at that time. As a musician you can easily hear that they didn't play for a very long time (especially Bob on lead) before recording that version. Compare it to the 1980 version and you can hear that he learned a lot during all those 20 years (yes, Bob plays the lead on that version to, which is easy to hear).
guraknugen 6 months ago
Great tune, heard this on a spegetti western with Clint Eastwood. just can't get this tune out of my head.
whataname01 1 year ago
this is by far the wildest version melodically and rhythmically. THE PUNK VERSION. (i'm not being disrespectful. i'm a garage rock musican mslf)
<3
much love THANK YOU FOR POSTIN
allaboutmymonster 1 year ago
i love <3 the percussion.. :-P
allaboutmymonster 1 year ago
THE VENTURES EXODUS"
Ida922 1 year ago
Great tune from 1994!
first doe in guitar style by The Lively Ones back in '63 ;-)
stupullen 2 years ago
From which album was this? I thought I heard them all
guraknugen 2 years ago
It was a 3 CD set from the UK, issued around 1997, called Walk-don't run the best of the ventures with Gerry,don,Bob & Leon on the cover.
incidently, if you were to hear them all, you would have listened to over 430 albums world wide , I own about 147 & still get surprised now & then.
Hope helped you in some way -Stu
stupullen 2 years ago
Well, it's not 430 albums with unique contents. You'll find the same tunes on several of them. I didn't mean that I've heard all their albums, just that I THINK that I've heard almost all of their (official) recordings, but obviously that was wrong too ;)
If you remove all the albums that contains material from other albums, I think we will land somewhere at 100 or so albums.
And I don't count EPs and singles, of course.
guraknugen 2 years ago
No offense meant & incidentally I heard your Nokie Edwards upload of Walk-don't Run, quite good.
stupullen 2 years ago
Well, I didn't feel offended, so that's cool.
I uploaded the "Walk, Dont Run '94" because there was some kind of childish debate about the Shadows' 1970's version vs the Ventures' 1960 and 1964 version. The Ventures did, as you know, several versions released in 1960, 1964, 1969, 1977, 1980, 1999 (WDR 2000), 1999 (V-Gold) and 2000 (V-Gold WDR'64) and maybe more, but most people have only heard the poor 1960 version
guraknugen 2 years ago
This version sounds like it would fit on the Wild Again album from 1996. The same kind of sound.
By the way, before they nailed the name "Wild Again" I think they called the project "Hits we missed" or something like that.
guraknugen 1 year ago