All this talk about what "works" is really beside the point. Aikiken is not intended to be a realistic or effective style of swordfighting. The purpose of practicing aikiken is to improve one's aikido, not to become a swordsman.
Depends on what style of Aikido you practice and of course your shihan. In some styles they don't do ANY weapons, and in Kobayashi-Aikido for instance, we do allot of Aikiken/-jo.
And from personal experience (a friend of mine ia an Iaidoka) it can be considered real swordsmanship.
This type of technique will work rarely in kendo against a person who is a serious practitioner. Because you have to take into in your opponents footwork, their focus, and their basics. I always have the mindset if I can do something sneaky like that than my opponent can do the same to me. Forgive me but in my dojo all improper cuts are considered sneaky or stupid. I'm not trying to say kendo is better than aikido though. I'm just giving my point of view
Interesting technique. Very good against people who are unfamiliar with the sword. As a Kendoka, from my point of view the cut are way to shallow even for kote. I don't know much about aikido philosophy. But kendo philosophy is one strike to kill your opponent so he doesn't suffer. By living by this philosophy you transcend the so called "winning and losing" mindset that you see in sports oriented martial arts and spend time mastering the art and yourself.
You don't need to cut deep with a razor sharp sword. If you nick an artery they'll bleed out quickly or you can cut a tendon and that'll create an opening for a finishing blow.
Sword fights were over in less than ten seconds because even the slightest cut could be leathal.
Of course that is totally right but a shallow cut is an "if" you nick and artery they'll bleed out or if you cut a tendon. The slightest cut "could" be lethal but chances that are that it's not. I have personally never seen two people with shinkens going at it but I've seen some nasty knife fighting wounds and the people with the wounds keep going like a bull i'm telling you it's totally scary and amazing at the same time. Remember on the battlefield samurai wear armor on their hands.
Of course people would be like what about when their is no armor. Look how the demonstrator moves in. When someone moves in like that in kendo the first response is to take Jodan or maybe Gedan (to avoid the hand strike and the transition from chudan to gedan would land a sword tip in the attacker's stomach or upper torso. Most people would take Jodan to avoid the strike and counter with a hiki men or kote.
To be honest that wouldn't work in our dojo either. We're trained to relax and not to allow our bokken to be knocked out of the way. If one of our students was uke, the demonstrator would have walked straight onto a bokken.
It sounds like your dojo is showing the realistic side of combat not just techniques.
Haha every single time i look at the video the more flaws I find. Look at the head of the instructor it actually shows the intention of you want to strike kote and nothing else. As you said you have to be relaxed. Having a predetermined target in your head hinders adaptivity. Also having your head advertising your target doesn't help you at all because obviously you can see your opponent's intentions.
I would suggest that a decent cut with a shinken delievered against the wrist is going to go to the bone, in which case, something will be cut and the hand will be rendered useless and armour only protected the top of the wrist, not the sides or underneath. Even if it hits armour you've placed him in an awkward position, which gives you time to attack.
Also samurai weren't always on the battlefield. In an encounter in the street attacking the wrists or hands would be a very effective strategy.
True... but it's done well, and correctly. I've seen many people on youtube screw up this simple maneuver. Swordsmanship is about subtlety and finesse.
Partly, but it's mainly about timing and the ability to strike and opening with no hesitation. If these two skills are refined, along with subtlety, you will become a very good swordsman.
No, katana is not used in partner sword exercises - but in my dojo we also do iaido, solo sword training, and there it is possible to use katana or iaito.
What an unusual technique. Its sortof like a combination of Kendo and Kenjutsu! Good for lacerations I guess (if you want to defeat your enemy through lots of superficial cuts), but not for a complete cut.
I think that was crap. I have been practicing Aikido for 3 years and you never start with the swords crossing each other. Its Unrealistic.
truexgunnerxchronica 2 months ago
bonjour jaime bien :-)
eliotudino 1 year ago
what the fuck was that?
thebloddyzorrow 1 year ago
All this talk about what "works" is really beside the point. Aikiken is not intended to be a realistic or effective style of swordfighting. The purpose of practicing aikiken is to improve one's aikido, not to become a swordsman.
storyacoustic 2 years ago
Depends on what style of Aikido you practice and of course your shihan. In some styles they don't do ANY weapons, and in Kobayashi-Aikido for instance, we do allot of Aikiken/-jo.
And from personal experience (a friend of mine ia an Iaidoka) it can be considered real swordsmanship.
FinalKenny2 2 years ago
This type of technique will work rarely in kendo against a person who is a serious practitioner. Because you have to take into in your opponents footwork, their focus, and their basics. I always have the mindset if I can do something sneaky like that than my opponent can do the same to me. Forgive me but in my dojo all improper cuts are considered sneaky or stupid. I'm not trying to say kendo is better than aikido though. I'm just giving my point of view
Javasurfer88 3 years ago
Interesting technique. Very good against people who are unfamiliar with the sword. As a Kendoka, from my point of view the cut are way to shallow even for kote. I don't know much about aikido philosophy. But kendo philosophy is one strike to kill your opponent so he doesn't suffer. By living by this philosophy you transcend the so called "winning and losing" mindset that you see in sports oriented martial arts and spend time mastering the art and yourself.
Javasurfer88 3 years ago
You don't need to cut deep with a razor sharp sword. If you nick an artery they'll bleed out quickly or you can cut a tendon and that'll create an opening for a finishing blow.
Sword fights were over in less than ten seconds because even the slightest cut could be leathal.
ketsan 2 years ago
Of course that is totally right but a shallow cut is an "if" you nick and artery they'll bleed out or if you cut a tendon. The slightest cut "could" be lethal but chances that are that it's not. I have personally never seen two people with shinkens going at it but I've seen some nasty knife fighting wounds and the people with the wounds keep going like a bull i'm telling you it's totally scary and amazing at the same time. Remember on the battlefield samurai wear armor on their hands.
Javasurfer88 2 years ago
Of course people would be like what about when their is no armor. Look how the demonstrator moves in. When someone moves in like that in kendo the first response is to take Jodan or maybe Gedan (to avoid the hand strike and the transition from chudan to gedan would land a sword tip in the attacker's stomach or upper torso. Most people would take Jodan to avoid the strike and counter with a hiki men or kote.
Javasurfer88 2 years ago
To be honest that wouldn't work in our dojo either. We're trained to relax and not to allow our bokken to be knocked out of the way. If one of our students was uke, the demonstrator would have walked straight onto a bokken.
ketsan 2 years ago
It sounds like your dojo is showing the realistic side of combat not just techniques.
Haha every single time i look at the video the more flaws I find. Look at the head of the instructor it actually shows the intention of you want to strike kote and nothing else. As you said you have to be relaxed. Having a predetermined target in your head hinders adaptivity. Also having your head advertising your target doesn't help you at all because obviously you can see your opponent's intentions.
Javasurfer88 2 years ago
I would suggest that a decent cut with a shinken delievered against the wrist is going to go to the bone, in which case, something will be cut and the hand will be rendered useless and armour only protected the top of the wrist, not the sides or underneath. Even if it hits armour you've placed him in an awkward position, which gives you time to attack.
Also samurai weren't always on the battlefield. In an encounter in the street attacking the wrists or hands would be a very effective strategy.
ketsan 2 years ago
I think that Aikidoka must do only Aikido and not this "strange" tecnique.
PalestraShodan 3 years ago
Simple knock aside technique, nothing special.
PvtVoulge 3 years ago
True... but it's done well, and correctly. I've seen many people on youtube screw up this simple maneuver. Swordsmanship is about subtlety and finesse.
kfkonrad 3 years ago
Partly, but it's mainly about timing and the ability to strike and opening with no hesitation. If these two skills are refined, along with subtlety, you will become a very good swordsman.
PvtVoulge 3 years ago
Tränar ni med Katana i Aikido? :' O
Felixmachinima 3 years ago
No, katana is not used in partner sword exercises - but in my dojo we also do iaido, solo sword training, and there it is possible to use katana or iaito.
Aikidostenudd 3 years ago
What an unusual technique. Its sortof like a combination of Kendo and Kenjutsu! Good for lacerations I guess (if you want to defeat your enemy through lots of superficial cuts), but not for a complete cut.
nii87 4 years ago