Jacque Fresco - Venus Project, Florida - 27 December 2008 Space Station Mars Moon

[FlashmoreGash]

One more time for the hard of understanding..lol This guy is a right fucking fruit loop!!

[FlashmoreGash]

This guys a fucking fruit loop

[RewardHonesty]

@FlashmoreGash Sorry but that's what all little, underdeveloped minds say when they try to understand an out-of-the-box, intelligent, forward-thinking pioneer.

[FlashmoreGash]

@RewardHonesty This guys a fucking fruit loop

[RewardHonesty]

@FlashmoreGash I rest my case. By the way, you should brush up on your grammar and punctuation. This might be a good start for you on your road to eventually developing enough gray matter and mental horsepower to understand Jacque :-) On a more serious note, your generalized statement is meaningless and doesn't promote any progress. Unless you are speaking in specifics then you are not really communicating. Let me know if you would like to engage in an intelligent dialogue or dialectic.

[FlashmoreGash]

@RewardHonesty lmfao! Trying to come across as intelligent and grammar perfect in a relaxed onsite setting is surely the height of a conceited individual!...

Even an average street kid in calcutta,given that he's had enough knowledge historically of utopian ideal ultimately turning into fuck-ups!,would see this Jacque for what he is,and what he offers...

Its only,or rather, generally psuedo intellectuals that grasp onto this decrepit branch Jacque has to offer because its so alternative..lol

[RewardHonesty]

@FlashmoreGash Well, I have to admit that I got pulled down into the gutter with this idiot. Shame on me.

Utopia does not exist and we all know that. The rest of your post is drivel and useless. You offer nothing constructive, only generalized and immature remarks. Do you have a useful contribution to the betterment of humanity and to our planet? If not, what are you doing here? Let me guess....just holding onto and protecting the status quo. Do you not see massive problems?

[FlashmoreGash]

@RewardHonesty ps..have you ever heard of paragraphs?...lmao...Just thought i'd mention that little oversight of yours...You really are remarkably clever..lol

[RewardHonesty]

@FlashmoreGash Thanks, but it's not an oversight you dumb shit. Damn the world is full of ignoramuses, and you are certainly one of them. Go educate yourself and learn to use that pea size brain of yours. One of these days you might actually learn how to think for yourself.

[FlashmoreGash]

@RewardHonesty I really don't want to encourage you any further!...You're not Sherlock Holmes,nor are you intelligently enlightened regarding this whole conversation.

You peddle this fruit-loops(Jaqcue) hypothesis as fact,when its clearly seen to be nothing more than another socialistic/communistic utopian,lets all get together bs.

Its a veiled attempt at a power grab" nothing more!..

Your a fine example of what a world would be like based on psuedo bs led by conceited fools!I pray for u!

[RayDandy]

space missions should be done primarily by robotics/automation,unless we develop safer and more efficient ways to put people in space. maybe some kind of cooperative robotics/artificial intelligence-human system for assisting in adaptation and developing space habitats

[Peterwhitlock]

@RayDandy

Ya a MORON like YOU would think such a DUMB thing because we did not have it in 1969 and we don't have it now MORON! None of our robotics work 100% so far and NONE OF THEM can think out a problem if needed... so if the unexpected happens they are dead in space doing nothing and Humans have to go anyways.... man try thinking with the brain and not the emotions that lie to you to make you think what you thought was ok! it was not!

Humans are NEEDED still and for years to come! Grow up!

[RayDandy]

@Peterwhitlock i did not say humans are not needed, of course we're needed. i said there should be a combined Human and AI approach for adapting to space environments. Your hysterical responses are really getting old.

[Peterwhitlock]

@RayDandy

and we teach to not send humans at all and have none of the problems that come with it.... da!!!!

[yuri35435]

Money at the end of the day can be used as a tool to acqure part of the world and then once u have it u can liberate it from money. To reject money prevents you from deseminating your creations to those who can use them immediately.

[Peterwhitlock]

@yuri35435

No MORON MONEY IS NOT THE PROBLEM! Population growtrh is and the HUMAN FOOTPRINT! You are a fool! You were too stupid to see past the lies about money and then fell into line as slave for them promoting the lies of money is the problem when it is not POPULATION IS the fucking fact you were not to be born!!!!

you waste our air food water resources then claim it is money.... fucking hypocrite!

grow the fuck up and get some basic brains CAPITALISM IS OLDER THAN HUMANS! It is NOT money

[yuri35435]

@Peterwhitlock Your stupidity amazes me, I do not disagree in any way that technology is something that is necessary however the method used to advance it by this particular group fails to leverage collectivism. Money produced from good business and conservative control over others is the method that this movement has failed to attempt. Their way is the all or nothing way, and as a result in their entire lifetime they have produced nothing that had a noticeable impact on the world.

[Peterwhitlock]

@yuri35435

No they are criminals in a long line of crimes and con from Fresco early life to steal all the work of Walt Disney to get false credibility for the same concepts as if great mind when he just copied and made his own versions always far worse than the original due to his complete lack of education to do better. RBE was "made up" Because it sounded good but was clearly impossible! Capitalism is not money and so is older than Humans and is not money where only a fools would think that.

[Peterwhitlock]

Respond to this video...

oh and you are a silly one to not know such things and think I am stupid when it is YOU that is too stupid to do the homework or anything that would educate you over this semi wrong conclusion (better than most other I must admit as you are 1/2 to the truth when others do only 10%)

I was going to call you worse but you clearly do not deserve it as you seam to be less dumb than most.

[betokkikke]

@Peterwhitlock Capitalism is older than humans...? Mmm, that's a lie. But of course, money is not the problem specially when you have it.

[Peterwhitlock]

@betokkikke

Yes you IDIOT with no brains! Capitalism is like a cold or virus and infect anything from insects to animals to humans to money proving YOU did not learn anything in life and think like a MORON!

Too dumb to know what Capitalism is!

It has nothing to do with money and all to do on how HUMANS treat money!

To capitalize is a form of gambling and insects and animals do it to get more food on a regular basis.. they capitalize on position camouflage skills light time of day thirst...

[renoo27]

"And also, it will be a global project." It kind of depresses me when I'm reminded how stupid and competitive we are in our current system. Everyone on earth working on the same project? Sadly that won't happen any time soon. It's like The Boss says at the end of Metal Gear Solid 3: "Politics, economics, the arms race, they're all just arenas for meanlingless competition... only to arrive at the same conclusion."

[Peterwhitlock]

@renoo27

No such thing as RBE to start with as it is a FRAUD catch phrase only used to get donations to buy land and claim ownership of it. It also permits TVP to make endless movies to promote RBE as it claims it does them to prove RBE was not a lie from day one..that we all proved was and is a criminal act to support it as it has no reality on this planet in any scales. TZM is now broken off from TVP because TVP was soooo full of lies and crime and PJ Merola wanted to not go to prison too!

[Peterwhitlock]

@renoo27

The GLOBAL project was TVP backing up from impossible to do on any other scales.... so give us money!~!!!!

that is why7 the police are involved and the license of TVP in question... RBE was made to steal donations and buy land to own with it 419 fraud and Jacques fresco exposed as a life con man fraud exposed many times but not gone to prison...YET!

3d TV, electric umbrella, 3 wheel car, the Garden Home of tomorrow all to get money! all to get VICTIMS and FALSE CREDIBILITY

EXPOSED

[renoo27]

@Peterwhitlock Lol... you're fucking insane. It's hilarious.

[tatmoote]

OLD SAYING ...... [many hands make light work] say a man works 1000 hours ............wat about 1000 men workin for 1 hour .... SAME RESULT ..thats a extra 999 men in a job.?? makes the life of the 1000 men a bit easier plenty of relax time..? or is people to stupid to see that I WONDER.???

[vojakrajko121]

the ones who cant see this venus project working or the suggestions, are the ones who knows they canot change and share they are to greedy and corrupted.

what did the ones who critisize do for the good of all mankind ?

[metalmatthias]

A true renaissance man

[rickynewyork1]

Why stress the Venus Project when it will only scare people away and put praise in your abilities to see the future way.... relax and focus on the good of the moneyless way and the benefits to human worth and start with the beginning movement.

[KampfKiewi245]

Sadly he is already so old... grerat men!

[cheburashka1326]

I thought Venus project was about science, not science fiction. lol. This thing is getting dumber and dumber as it progresses, bit it sure has huge entertaining value. I am looking forward to future videos from that lunatic., thank you for posting.

[chigangsta09]

Wow he's got a cool Star Wars toy collection....

[Obataladance]

Venus project is NWO

[rcacad]

Im glad I know how to farm, purify water, build natural structures and fish with homade nets........Im trying to learn more about electronics and wires and stuff. I downloaded plans to make an overunity device that theoretically could make enough electricity to store H gas and do other things.........

I dont want to live on the grid my whole life, USA or not.

[betokkikke]

As all good scientist like him, Fresco obviously is not against to explore the space but to send humans there when we have machines and robots. Of course, his Venus Project main goal is to make a brand new civilization to all the living here on Earth without money and hunger, in Fresco's mind we must look after solutions exploring wisely the sea's resources and not out with people in the Moon, or Mars, etc, (B-p). Thanks for videos!

[Peterwhitlock]

@betokkikke

fucking IDIOT

he is not a scientist and not and engenerr and has not one credential in his life! he quit school at 14 and never took a class after that BUT they HUNTED HI(M for FRAUD and calling hiuimself a DOCTOR and should of gone to prison!

he copied all of the work of WALT DISNEY to fake his own models to fake having credentials he did not have to get money he should not get to buy land he greed for in his 419 FRAUD LIFE LONG EFFORTS!

he tried to fake his way in all his life!

[justmemelanie]

Who is this "we" you are referring to? The bigger question is what are "you" doing?

[Obataladance]

We...HUMANS...are u from another planet ? So i am talking about us...all of us...is ridiculous to see how some are playing gods changing the natural design while others are starving right now...all this unnecessary hightech makes no sense.. A bit of humility is needed..

[Watchdawg]

Hightech will eventually take over the jobs anyway, so you can cry all you want. Technology develops faster than peoples thinking does. You still got people doing hard physical work, and then you got machines building cars and other stuff. Enjoy the unemployment.

[JDoubleOP]

First watch 'the Venus Project" and educate yourself, before giving such answers. It's all about a new culture. Resource Based Economy. Hard to understand and there's nobody blaiming you, because you are conditioned to fit in our current monetairy system. A civilization where we all can live without hatred, competition, jealousy. All caused by money and power.

[rcacad]

Technological unemployment has always been the bigest extraction of labor from the worlds work force bar none!

[modernclics]

If people is starving is not beacuse of the great ideas of Jacque Fresco. PV ideas includes waste reduction, recycling and an intelligent managament of resources and food wich means: there's no reason to have starving people and poverty when the resources are there, but poors can purchase them. The PV doesn't want to cut population, please research more about it.

[JDoubleOP]

You don't get it, i'm sorry to say.... Educate yourself and then reconsider.

[Watchdawg]

@Obataladance It's not just about technology, The venus project is about social change as well, and getting rid of the monetary system and open up for a completely new resource based system, only that way can we get rid of poverty, not in the moneysystem, that's impossible the way it looks now.

[cheburashka1326]

And you know all these claims are true because .... ?

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 Because I live it? And I believe it can be solved using his way of thinking, cause if you read about people that has contributed a lot to society, nearly all of them were thinking outside of the norms. Rarely do normal people come up with unique ideas such as Jacque's. Believing in something that is in the present, not some book which were SUPPOSEDLY written over a thousand years ago, I am talking about the Bible, Koran, all those bullshit fairytales.

[cheburashka1326]

What you said is no different than some moron claiming to live the life and "have personal relationship with Jesus". If you people were not so ignorant and actually bother to study history of utopia movements of last 300 years, or history of communism, or actually read sci-fi books of mid-20th century you would realize that your guru has not a single idea of his own, not one. Replacing one boolshit with another does not make it true, especially if your idea has no foundation in reality.

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 If you were not so ignorant and ACTUALLY bother to study about The Venus Project you would know that, it's not communism, nor is it anything close to any other Utopias. Do your research before you start criticizing something.

[cheburashka1326]

I did look through it and again I can make a very bold claim - you tell me which idea of his you think is unique, I'll find historical or si-fi reference in 2 days time. Another thing just because you claim something it does not make it true, whatever it is a god or heaven on earth your movement advocates. In the absence of the opposite example of successful resource based society(New Harmony for example) your claims are void of any evidence that your proposition might or will work.

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 Search for the video "Take The Venus Project Challenge - Introduction". A lot of ideas were considered Sci-fi before it actually became real, or put into practice. Even if you have some other "Utopias" that looks similar to this project, that does not prove anything.

[cheburashka1326]

I am sorry I will not watch one more movie from your movement, based on previous sampling I can safely assume it to be bs. You no longer claim his ideas to be unique, do you? If other utopia movements attempted and failed to do the same thing it is irrelevant, is it not? I am sorry to point it out, but your conviction without evidence seems like a regular religious faith to me.

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 Well, show me any Utopia that is similar to TVP, that has been put into practice. It will be interesting. It's up to you whether you want to find out more about it or not, I am just interested in TVP. Evidence here, evidence there. TVP is in it's early stages, right now it's just a concept, once it has become more famous, then people might consider trying it. It's all about spreading the ideas, not forcing it upon people.

[cheburashka1326]

Well I'll be honest with you, my view is extremely prejudiced - everything your movement proposes, including Venus project, I heard before in my high school in fact(early 80th), you see I grew up in USSR and they whole thing is painfully familiar to me. But it is relatively harmless , until you realize that you will actually have to force it upon people like me. That is the only reason I care. So yeah the closest example is USSR in my view, considering the scale and intent.

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 Okay, I understand. But check out the Zeitgeist orientation movie, Future by design (Jacque Fresco's documentary), read their e-books and you will understand it more, if you don't like it then just reject it.

[cheburashka1326]

I did not read the books, I'll try. I did watch the movies. If you try objectively(I do not know you, but you seem to be too involved to be objective about them, I am sorry if I am wrong) apply "baloney detection" to those movies you might see that they simply do not pass the simplest check.

[deanjdk]

@cheburashka1326 so...you are sying that oin the ussr..the scientific method was proposed for social concern??bullshit.,,it is the METHOD being promoted here..you have just demonstrated that dyou do not understand what you are opposing

[cheburashka1326]

@deanjdk First of all in USSR they claimed(!) to use scientific method for social problems, just like the venus project. Second of all you are the one who seems to be clueless of scientific method if you suggest there is any of it in the Venus project. I'll give you a clue - the key there is testable and repeatably verifiable claims, virtually none of the claims here are verifiable.

[deanjdk]

@cheburashka1326 the venus project advocates the use of the mothod..not "lets go build a city like this".i would recommend you read up on the webpage.do you realise what is being proposed here?i dont think so.I wish you would look and then criticise as i believe its important for people to be skeptical

[cheburashka1326]

@deanjdk Why is it you people always assume that I did not go that web page. I read it, there is nothing there that even remotely qualifies as scientific method. It is just of bunch of unsupported declarations and statements, not unlike communist manifesto( I recommend you read it).

[deanjdk]

@cheburashka1326 im sorry...i assume you didnt read it because you demonstrate you misunderstand it.please state these unsupported declarations

[cheburashka1326]

@deanjdk wow ... where do I start?!

1. "By supplying an efficiently designed economy, everyone can enjoy a very high standard of living with all of the amenities of a high technological society."

2. "At present, we have enough material resources to provide a very high standard of living for all of Earth's inhabitants"

3. "Money is only important in a society when certain resources for survival must be rationed"

And that is just a fraction in only one page

[deanjdk]

@cheburashka1326 Please be as skeptical as you can about the venus project...that way it cuts out the strawmanning that most people engage in while opposing this idea.The venus project advocate sa method...and thats it.if the ussr also claimed this...then they did not even begin to apply it

[cheburashka1326]

@deanjdk yep you are absolutely correct in USSR they never begin to apply it, nor did Venus project btw . VP just proposes untested, unproven and unsupported method ... just like they did in 1917.

[renoo27]

@cheburashka1326 So that means we should just ignore it and continue trudging along in our backwards, broken and corrupt system?

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 And what I ment earlier is that, I know that the monetary system doesn't work, because I live in it.

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 Like I told you, TVP is not communism, people who claim so have not researched enough about TVP. I highly doubt any Utopian concept is like the TVP. And there is some video were Jacque talks about Utopias and also talks about a book that is called "a 100 Utopias and why they fail," something along that title. You simply cannot prove that TVP would not work using old data of Utopias that did not/would not work. Times are different, new thinking has to be let in.

[cheburashka1326]

I also cannot prove that a god does not exist, thankfully it is not my burden - whoever claims something burden of proof is on them. I am personally convinced that your movement is face lift on the communistic idea, if pressed I can do point by point comparison, but that is my conviction and I am perfectly willing to retract my claim to save time. I am also aware of your movements claim not to be an utopia movement, I find it very very funny and similar to "Religion of Peace" claim.

[Watchdawg]

@cheburashka1326 I'm glad I met you here, cause I found your favorited video "Baloney detection kit - Michael shermer" video very interesting! XD

[cheburashka1326]

Yep it is absolutely the best movie

[Halath]

Jack Norris invented all of that years before !! its not a venus project is Norris

[nurani8]

Who is Jack Norris?

[Obataladance]

The Venus project and the RBEF are from the New World Order..dont have illusion coz most of us wont live there..

[gastrop0d]

Evidence?

[Obataladance]

A resource based economy have been applied in " socialist countries "without success because it is based in the violent collectivization where individuality and personal identity is left aside in the name of the community. Also a resource based economy, is only viable in a small scale population ( where will be relocated the almost 7 billions of humans on this planet ? ).. I am for inclusive democracy..where everyone can keep its particularities, culture, language, village...No to be grouped !!

[gastrop0d]

I don't think you've looked into The Venus Project in enough detail. If you did, you'd see it's unlike any social system that has existed in the past.

The first difference is total automation of tasks. Show me a socialist country that has close to 100% unemployment and total abundance of resources?

What evidence do you have that supports `RBE only viable on small scale population'?

[Obataladance]

Collectiviazation implies taking away u individuals rights in the name of the majority...automatization of whatever the kind ( even if machines ) slowly will take away our human conditions and natural ties to the whole.. RBE is not new...the elites have tried to applied in many differents ways all around the world..socialism, kibbutz, Koljoks ect...and never have worked out..the crowd is not the stupid although naive

[joesub007]

"automatization of whatever the kind ( even if machines ) slowly will take away our human conditions and natural ties to the whole.."

Enjoy having your hands and feet burned and mangled in industrial labor then.

[Obataladance]

Once robots will take over...most of us will die coz the elites wont need us anymore to work in THEIR factories. Do u knows that there robots soldiers now and robots who can chase humans even in ice conditions ? there is also robots who can eat human flesh....do u think robots are just made to produce goods ?

Thanks cyborg..but u are very naive..read a bit more

[joesub007]

We are all cyborgs. Having eye glasses and a digital wrist watch already makes you a cyborg though not through invasive technology. Besides, your argument fails because we are "cyborgs" that eat animal flesh. Destructive weapons already exist in the arsenal of governments in the world like nerve gas and atomic weapons. If they really wanted to wipe us out then producing cyborgs for the task is the LEAST efficient to go about doing it. Everything can be either a tool or a weapon.

[Obataladance]

U maybe a cyborg but i consider myself a human still. Did u see how the russian didnt give their hands to Obama when visiting there ? Dont believe the hypes...no one have the power alone..in every interaction there is alot of negociation...They havent got yet the technology to live somewhere else so even the richest mad..have to share this space with us..if they destroyed the earth they will die with it...but mother earth herself will bring the real order after the chaos.

[gastrop0d]

I don't understand where you get the issue of 7 billion people being relocated. Do you think people would just put everything down and go `okay new society time'? It would be a multi stage transition between current operations and new ones. New infrastructure would be developed over time and people would gradually adopt them.

[gastrop0d]

Your fear of being `grouped' is derived from cold dehumanising images of socialist countries in the past that (as I've stated earlier) share no systemic similarity with what TVP proposes. There's nothing that says people would be stripped of their individuality.

They are stripped of pointless drudgery, poor education, insufficient medical care and aggressive commercial agendas, though.

Not to mention war, famine and slavery.

[justmemelanie]

Hi Obataladance - when I first found out about this, I thought the same.. socialist.. communist... please look into it a bit more, and see if you don't discover something different. Also, check out the zeitgeist addendum... and btw - we don't have a democracy.. we are ruled by a small group of powerful men.. also see Freedom to Facism, Aaron Russo

[Obataladance]

Zeitgesit is another intellectual prostitution...sure we live in a corrupt society but not coz of this we need to accept whatever from whoever..and so far i only see the same people dressed up in different costumes.. by the way not all wealthy people are greedy rats without human values or aesthetics like not all poor are against the system that exploit them. There are good people among the elites who will fight against the NWO.particulary some wealthy greeks and russians who hate the satanists

[deanjdk]

iv adressed some of your comments in the past obataladance yet you never provide any feedback...maybe you should actually learn what the venus project proposes since you have demonstrated you have not got a proper understanding of what is being proposed here

[mucanamnam]

@justmemelanie Zeitgeist Movement = NWO

[Starborn1212]

This is great..my youngest brother who is a civil engineer that likes to create, invent and build things and my son is stepping into his shoes. I encourage anyone who has these type of knowledge, talent and their creative spirit advance technologies is to use it. It is a greatest gift for the better world for us to live in..Peace!

[Arcane1Soldier]

Yeah. I know there is no perfection in life, but this man has the answers and the blue prints for a better society for the world. Money, Establishments and Religion is the problems and alike. Were the hell is the Movie type heroes like Luke Skywalker and John Conners to fight the system and alike. lol I would like to apply for that job.

[soyoen]

Don't forget about steven seagal ;)

[Arcane1Soldier]

Steven Seagal is GOD. He can beat anyone up, Bruce Lee even with all his fancy shmancy wooohaaaa, and kicks cant even win. Here, i have one. All the supporters and alike in life that are with Alex Jones, and David Icke, etc, need to all put their funds together and hire contractors to overthrow the government and shut down the FED, tighten borders around USA and have fresco lead the team to make his world a reality. Merc's will do anything if the price is right. lol.

[dandamanwitdaplan92]

i love jaque fresco he's 93 and still soldering on .he's deserves to be called a human

[Peterwhitlock]

@dandamanwitdaplan92

No that piece of shit FRAUD just told you to build impossible space stations the size of cities for AIR WATER AND SUPPLIES then said no Humans in space and do it all remote controlled as the need to bring materials into space is what cost and is so hard.... so he added 109,900,000 times more materials than any others BECAUSE HE HAS NO EDUCATION TO KNOW HE IS CONTRADICTING HIMSELF, AND DID NOT TAKE ANY BASIC FACTORS INTO ACCOUNT!

AS USUAL HE SHOWS he copies and maked fakes

[nsa5015]

very inspiring

[TedHaggardsDealer]

great video, thanks for uploading.

[Arcane1Soldier]

I truly beleave that this man has come up with solutions to lifes problems. Not all, but a gread deal start. Note 2 things here, (1) we might think all this will take years to many years to build, but if we unite and work together, i will be a snap, and #(2) Mr. fresco is 92 years old, unless his legacy will be followed or joined by many and very soon, im scared that this plan of his that WILL work, will die when he does. SAD FACT so far. I hope to meet him this coming up year.

[saxbeast4]

luckily his partner is not so old

[jrgoku1000]

if you want to make the VENUS Project

happen!

go to sign the VENUS Project Petition online!

[brentoneccles]

and tell other people about the venus project!

[iulian28ti]

srxseta, even Jaque said that all that he has envisioned are only prototypes and early concepts.

[Srxseta]

Everithing whill be lice you imagen Jaque because that is something which is the best for all our man kind,and wee whill add our imagination to,to help us all ... :)

[Nosbigydoc]

I like the camera angle.

[Shiruban]

Nice you met him. I'm intending to go see him too. Jacque is amazing.

[uea978]

when you see him, please record some videos. muchly appreciated. regards.