Gibbs On Reconciliation: There Are A Lot of Different Avenues

[carrierexchange]

Reconciliation wasn't a problem when Republicans we're using it.

[zidmt]

I like the way Obama does things the smart way, not the Bush style, cram it down your throat; "you are either with us or against us" style of politics.

[maskedphrogg]

What a crock of hooey.

Substance matters not, it's the style that substance is driven home with counts.

I left the USMC over such crackpot thinking.

When style matters more than substance you leave a pretty corpse and your opponent wins the fashion show.

Personally I'm not concerned with the manner in which the country is sold down the river. I'm more concerned with the fact that the country is being sold down the river than how gracious the traitors offering the sale are.

[boots920]

"I like the way Obama does things"

- Cap and trade is total bull crap

- all the most productive dealerships were taken out

- Stimilus pkg. it had hand written notes in the margin

- Why is there troops still in Iraq

Its the same bull shit only way more destructive.

[taoofmichael]

It takes a while to clean up a huge pile of steaming shit. Be patient. At least give him til Sept 11.

[boots920]

Fill in the Blanks if you can: (Long Version) Registration of a Live Birth Place of Birth: (Hospital) Name of child: Date of Birth ____ Sex M Parents Mother, Father (Full Names) Citizenship Are the parents married to each other ? Birth single, twin or triplet - ? Weigth of child at Birth - ? Length of pregancy in completed weeks - ? Total number of children born to this mother - ? Permanent Residence of Child's mother - ? Name of Doctor at birth - ? Doctor's Residence- ? Place of Record filed

[taoofmichael]

Looks like you figured it out. Obama is an extra-terrestrial!!!

You're so smart!!!

[boots920]

The 1.2 million Iraqis have figured it out, they're writing to you to tell you how dead they are.

[taoofmichael]

I will forward the letters to George W. Bush. Obama opposed this war from the beginning.

[boots920]

Obama could end it all, notice no charges coming to GWya anytime soon. Its all a big setup, they have each others back.

Just like when Nixon covered LBJ, Ford had Nixon covered right ?

[taoofmichael]

No changes to Bush policies? Do you watch any of these videos you comment on?

All American troops are out of Iraqi cities. As of yesterday. Obama is changing the focus to Afghanistan, where OBL is probably living. The Pakistani people are turning against the Taliban, and the Pakistani Army is starting to actively fight the Taliban.

Do you care about Iraqis dying, or not? Do you care about betraying the people who have put everything on the line in their support of American oil interests?

[boots920]

In his new book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Vincent Bugliosi makes a devastating, well documented case that President George W. Bush is guilty of murder as a result of the lies he told to justify the invasion of Iraq.

When's GWya going on trial for lying to the American people ?  Obama has Gwya's back, they're on the same team.

[taoofmichael]

Surely you can understand that it would be political suicide for a Black president to prosecute an ex-president from Texas, and his sidekick Darth Vader, from Wyoming. But even so, Obama has said that it is up to the Justice Dept, which is independent, to make the final decision. He has not said that prosecutions will not happen. He has said he wants to move on, for the sake of unity and coherence, in our horribly divided country. I think that is his first priority.

[boots920]

I thought color wasn't an issue ? Anyhoo

Same bull shit excuse was used for Nixon, history repeats.

You though the government was legit, I beg to differ.

[taoofmichael]

Color shouldnt be an issue. But, I fear, in Texas and Wyoming (and Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc.) it may still be a factor in people's thinking. Its just a hunch.

Obama will not repeat Nixon's and LBJ's mistakes. That is my prediction.

The American government is legit, yes I do think that. What a silly sheep I am, huh?

[boots920]

People just aren't being realistic about the the situation .

You have to consider the US dollar has been used like gold for for 38 years. Problem is its not gold its paper, if there was any chance I would say ALL troops would have to come home and industry would have to start up major in the states, also a stable currency would have to be introduced.

The States 730 Bases in 130 Countries, start bringing the troops home, not going to happen.

[taoofmichael]

So you cant find anything good about Barack Obama's policies? The country is moving in a completely different direction than it was under Bush. You still want to wallow in your Ron Paul conspiracy theories?

Lets try some more progressive ideas. We have a more progressive president. Lets give his ideas a try. We tried the Bush way. You cant change the president anyway. Why not just push for sound policies, and hope for the best? Isnt what you are doing a waste of time?

[boots920]

LIke I said the people just aren't being realistic about the situation.

Obama is hurting US industry not helping:

Example all the best dealerships were closed, its destroying small communities throughout the states.

Then there's useless war going on, its endless and they keep going with no end in sight.

Estimate of US debt with social programs obligations:

100 Trillion, like I said you have to be realistic.

[taoofmichael]

Are you trying to say that Obama's policies are responsible for any of the problems you have named?

He is trying to clean up a gigantic pile of shit that has been piling up since Reagan. Give him at least until Sept to do it. Dont you think that's fair?

[boots920]

Hey I'm just saying you got to be realistic, like get real.

Look at just health care, how do you fund it . I believe every human being deserves good health care but you can't do it for free.  Then there's the realization that the US dollar isn't going to be there to work with. The debt is mathematically impossible to pay off.

Obama's policies aren't responsible, I believe things like cap and trade will make a insane situation worst.

The country's bankrupt, $ and morally its all spin no truth.

[taoofmichael]

Okay. Lets get real. Barack Obama is president. He was elected by a sizable majority of the American people. And we now have 60 Democratic senators. We are paying for health care now, and it isnt very good health care for most Americans. Something must be done about the pollution of air, water and food. America is not bankrupt. And Obama has restored a sense of morality not seen since Carter.

Thats reality.

[boots920]

"America is not bankrupt" How so ?

Plus the US dollar isn't holding value.

Its not a conspiracy its inflation of the money supply.

1776 Gold $20

2009 Gold $1000

Gold's pretty useless right, you can't eat it and if you wear it someone might shoot you and steal it from you.

So no gold backing of the US dollar means no balanced budgets for the last 38 years.

I'm not getting all fancy here, how do you explain a $1000 dollar gold price for a useless commodity ?  More people want the gold instead of $

[taoofmichael]

"America is not bankrupt" I think the burden of proof is on you -- since you made the original claim that America IS bankrupt. When I look at the debt as percentage of GDP, I see that we are no worse off now than we have been, more than once, in the past.

An average house 1959 -- $6000. Average house 2008 -- $240,000. What were we arguing about again?

[boots920]

"America is not bankrupt" ???

I think your 59 figure and 08 figure is about right the 09 figure is $218,000.

So no problem with the 12 Trillion dollars of money that has been created in the last year, or that won't have any affect on the US economy ? (US dollar should remain strong right ?)

[taoofmichael]

$12 trillion created in the last year? Where do you get this shit?

Obama has been in office for 6 months. His budget is 1.6 trillion (including the wars, which Bush never included in his budgets.) The $10 trillion figure is what the Obama administration estimates would be the worst case scenario (if the recession continues much longer than expected,) OVER TEN YEARS -- not one year.

[boots920]

$12 Trillion has been created by the Federal Reserve, the money supply has been expanded by $12 Trillion dollars.

You're not following this news, in the hearings one congressman asked who they lent 2.0 Trillion to, the Fed told them to get stuffed.

This is what I'm talking about you have to start getting real before you fix the system. Obama doesn't even talk about the Fed and the the roll its playing.

[taoofmichael]

We are operating from two different sets of facts. So nothing can be gained through debate. Its like arguing over religion. You Ron Paulers have faith. And I dont want to try to talk anyone out of their religious beliefs.

I have persoanlly heard Obama talk about the role the Fed is playing, and Ben Bernanke, at least 20 times in the last 6 months, and I'm not even watching that much TV.

Did you watch the Noam Chomsky video #1in my favorites list? All the best to you. Peace.

[boots920]

"We are operating from two sets of facts"

No we're not, I being real you're talking in spin. I know counterfeiting money is going to be a total disaster not only for the American people, you idiots control world reserve currency. Its doing the whole global economy in.

Since when does expanding the money supply with fiat currency (monopoly money) solve anything.

Its Zimbabwe economic strategy and Obama not facing reality (he's all about spin) .

Ex. Health care or war - you can't have both.

[taoofmichael]

"Since when does expanding the money supply...solve anything?"

USA 1930s

Japan -- 1990s

To good examples. There are others.

I'll take the health care instead of the war.

[boots920]

"Since when does expanding the money supply solve anything"

USA 30's - In 1933 the government confiscated the people gold, stealing money from your citizens isn't expanding the money supply, its called theft. "Patriot Act", yep it has gold confiscation in it again.

Japan - 1990's - Their stock market is still down 80% from 1989.

Health care it is, Obama is doing both...he's spinning the truth.

[taoofmichael]

If you want a political guru -- on foreign policy and domestic economics -- go with Noam Chomsky.

Not Ron Paul.

[taoofmichael]

Please watch video, Noam Chomsky on Libertarianism. Its in my favorites -- just click on my user name. Its the first one. Then you can argue with Noam Chomsky, major genius, professor of linguistics at MIT, better informed on foreign policy than anyone in America. Ron Paul is a spoiled child compared to Noam Chomsky.

[sirdaveysockrocker]

they should be using reconciliation on EVERY bill. Bush didnt hesitate to use it for everything he wanted. And most of that shit SUCKED. Someone lend Obama some balls already im getting antsy waiting for him to flex his power.

[rezzo1]

Wow...are you wackos still out there?

[dogstar7]

WTF?!!

YouTube is running targeted ads from a group calling itself HAARM: 'Healthy Americans Against Reforming Medicine'

Is that like 'Wealthy Assholes Against Giving Back the Money Republicans Stole'

...or 'Safe Sons of CEO's Against Ending Wars Somebody Else Fights So We Become Richer'

..or 'Let's Just Spit In the Face Of The Dwindling American Middle Class and Make More Money For Foreign Investment Banks'

[MooseOfReason]

I agree with a single payer system, but that single payer should be a person paying for his or her own care. A third party payment system, whether the government or insurance companies, will be screwy.

Also, before you write me off, maybe you could watch "Sick in America". It's an ABC News documentary about healthcare. Here's part one:

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[boots920]

Single payer what, look at the Canadian system it covers

- drug addicts

- obese people

- smokers

The system isn't even realistic when it come to individuals taking care of themselves. They're not even realistic when it come to how much these social programs cost to run.

Look at western medicine most of it is total bull shit.

Do insurance company's cover bad driver's without premium's ??? Let's get real for once instead of la la land medical insurance.

[1019drummer]

here...here.............!

[Mychaels]

Thanks for the info from Canada. Not much to do with video again.

[boots920]

If this was a history of Zimbabwe you're right Zimbabwe isn't in control of "World's Reserve Currency".

If you don't think counterfeiting money is not going to have a disastrous affect on world markets then you're a moron.

You're just a brainless twat....

[CynicalSavior]

Demand public option! Do not let the insurance companies and HMOs continue to profit off of the sick and dying.

[atripa645]

what?

[Mychaels]

I am a stupid twat? You are silly. Just remember that when our economy fails so does yours. Must be nice piggy backing another nations success and then bitch when we cannot take care of you. Too bad you did not create your own economy so you could survive these fiscal crises.

[boots920]

1971 - Nixon a crook, traitor and war criminal ends gold backing of the US dollar "world reserve".

We all hang together ahole.

[Mychaels]

Dip why do you give me a history lesson about my own country. I remember Nixon when he was our president. He was the pre-cursor to George Bush. He also was the one responsible for screwing up our health coverage. There are a lot of people in this country that do not like these criminals. Yet guys like you bunch us all together and make it look like we are all monsters. There is a lot of shit wrong with this country and even Americans are dumb enough to think it can be fixed overnight.

[boots920]

Nixon was a traitor, he ended the gold backing of US currency. That's a disaster in itself but you have to wonder why no other world leader said anything about that bull crap.

Look at George Bush - War Criminal the US government is destroying the planet and you idiots go into stand by mode.

How about rattling their cages a little, kick the idiots out start with Obama. He's destroying your country....the US dollar is going to 0 I wish wish the American people would wake the fuck up.

[Mychaels]

See that is where you are wrong. Why the hell do you care about us. It seems to me you have all the answers that are wrong. First off the president has a fuck load of stuff to do. He just help create thousands of jobs in my state. Obama is cleaning up the mess. There is no time for going after Bush. Remember your country had Bush as a visitor not to long ago and did nothing to arrest him for war crimes. You could have. Spineless prick. Quit preaching.

[boots920]

Look Obama can't even produce a simple Birth Certificate (long version) what's up with that ?

My answer , stop randomly invading countries, stop counterfeiting money and start arresting the crooks and criminals that have infested your government.

Our government should have arrested Bush for breaking the Geneva convention. Now ask yourself why they didn't ?

They're all in on it, the governments around the world are allowing this bull crap to go on ? Its a giant ponzi scheme !

[Mychaels]

Look your country failed to do the right thing. I won't even entertain the birth certificate bullshit. Make up as many lies and distortions as you want. Those of us who are Americans are really good people. And you are not. I do not even know why you spineless fuckers are our allies.

[boots920]

"I won't even entertain the birth certificate bullshit" - why because its a valid point.

What we peasants are witnessing is a disaster beyond measurement. The Super Central Bank (1913) has caused the depressions, wars and corruption through counterfeiting money, and subversion.

The gold price confirms this is going on, the people in power want us us peasants dead .

1 in 4 jobs in the world have to do with the car industry, what is building cars in China going to do for the American

economy.

[Mychaels]

Same thing as having the engines built in Canada. Not a thing. Betcha did not know that one eh Jelly fish?

[sharinganclan213]

tax the taxpayers, and give the money to illegals.

[boots920]

Whats wrong will taking your hard earned money and giving it to illegal immigrants. Its the American way !!!

Who cares if your family implodes as long as the immigrants are alright . You don't matter according to the idiots running your country into the ground.

[oldtownkid]

you wish? oh, you're so noble!

[voyeurdug]

It was a dumb question. The questioner (who?), keeps pressing for, "what happens after what happens next," where, "what's happening now," isn't over yet.

Gibbs needs to pelt them lightly with Nerf balls... or tase them... something.

[HoochieKoochie]

Gangsta shit

[corsikaa]

word crazy dope