They forgot about the millions of Felons that can't vote,in some states as little as a 1/2 ounce of pot is a felony,Iam in louisiana, an one ounce of pot is a felony,they should not have the right to take your voteing rights away over a such small amount of pot.
"IT'S OUR OBLIGATION!" A 65 year old disabled Vietnam Veteran called in, (protesting the republicans voter suppression efforts.) Said "I didn't need a stinking Photo ID in order to vote, before leaving a piece of myself in Vietnam, while fighting for our rights. And no one better dare ask me for it NOW!" When Thom Hartmann thanked him for his service and his courage for standing up for our rights. The Veteran responded "STANDING UP FOR OUR RIGHTS DOESN'T REQUIRE COURAGE, IT'S OUR OBLIGATION!"
Read the Right Wing sheep comments -- they like it when their party suppresses votes because they know that they can't win elections leaving voting laws they way they are because they're so damn unpopular. Expect more of this from our nation's very own communist party, know as the GOP.
I couldn't even make it through this whole video. People in NYC don't drive and thusly don't have I.D.? I'm sorry, but I know people that do not have cars and have never driven yet still have a state-issued I.D. card.
You know why? You need one to work legally. You need one to open a bank account. You need one get utilities. You need one do tons of everyday things in live and if you ever have a run in with the police, you need one as well.
Apply statistics of general pop to a voter demographic is one of he oldest statistical jujutsu moves... Democracy, yeah when it's convenient, but when it's not.." LMAO you mean Wisconsin? again typical liberal projecting what they do best..
"Since jim crow laws and segregation" ? does this tart know that was a DEMONcratic law? How does shorter hours hurt democrats, when MOST of their supporters don't work? They can go anytime..
Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) gave ACORN another $461,086 in January. The funds were earmarked for ACORN Housing Corp. in January under HUD’s Self-help Homeownership Opportunity Program (SHOP), according to the government website USAspending.gov.
In order words, the Obama administration gave fraud-ridden ACORN nearly a half million dollars to be used on housing development.
Actually Michael Shure is not entirely right about access to the polls - depending on your demographic area. There are liberals that are clearly 'welcomed' at polls in conservative populated areas, and democratics being frown upon and even hated if they go to the polls in liberal populated areas. I've witness this first hand. Society's Sheeple have a preconception of how Liberals and Conservatives should appear in presences. Should I look at certain way to have access to the Polls?
Actually Michael Shure is not entirely right about access to the polls - depending on your demographic area. There are liberals that are clearly 'welcomed' at polls in conservative populated areas, and democratics being frown upon and even hated if they go to the polls in liberal populated areas. I've witness this first hand. Society's Sheeple have a preconception of how Liberals and Conservatives should appear in presences. Should I look at certain way to have access to the Polls?
Obama already won the war on voting by going for a second term after pissing and shitting all over his voters. I have my boat ready to go fishing the election day.
Enter "failure to identify to a police officer" and criminaldefenselawyer in google,
and take a look at the LIST of States that DO, in FACT, have FINES and/or JAIL TIME for those who do NOT have id, or are otherwise unable or unwilling to ID themselves to a cop. "not required"...
@DTansy wow, you are such a liar. According to your own source, "The first includes refusing to provide your name, address or other requested information when you have been lawfully arrested or detained, or when a police officer has reason to believe you may be a witness to any type of criminal offense. The second distinction includes the same circumstances but it is more specific to if you provide the wrong personal information to an officer." It has nothing to do with actually having an ID.
@thanatos101b - "or are otherwise unable or unwilling to ID themselves to a cop" Didja read that, dickless? Do you have a problem with COM-PRE-HEN-SION, dickless? Your attempts at "argument" have ALWAYS been reminiscient of a slow public school 3rd grade underachiever, you simply blither with abandon! Good luck with that comprehension problem, dumbass!
@thanatos101b - BTW, (just FYI) To "I.D." oneself can mean a LOT more than a simple I.D. "card", little jackass! You have "I.D.'d" yourself by simply giving your NAME, if it actually IS your name. As YOU said, little sad sack, "includes refusing to provide your name... or other requested information". Get it now, dumbass? Probably not. I assume you're just another of the Obamunists "useful idiots". Good luck with that!
@DTansy I like this. You just contradicted yourself, so not only are you lying, you are lying stupidly. To ID yourself, according to your own source, means to tell a police officer your name and other requested information. It has nothing to do with a "simple I.D. 'card'" moron. Yep, you've been caught lying, by your own source and your own admission, asshat.
@thanatos101b - Once again you empty-headed drone, AFTER you repeated EXACTLY what I've already said, you tell ME I contradicted myself. I apparently OVERESTIMATED the level of public school you miserably FAILED, having guessed your blistering ignorance as a 3rd-grade dropout. Simply "telling a cop your name" is NOT sufficient ID, dumbass, or it would be enough to buy BOOZE. A moron has an IQ of about 80, but you're less than SURELY half of THAT...
@kate71342 - There's NO "Federal law" requiring ANYONE to obtain an I.D., but no STATE is "Federal", and EACH state has the right to make their OWN LAWS as they see fit. Also, regardless WHAT the document, if it describes YOU, it IS, in FACT, "IDENTIFICATION", isn't it? You DON'T have to have I.D. to LIVE in the U.S., you only need it to do things like DRIVE, buy a house, rent an apartment or a DVD, enter a federal building, and so on and so on and so on.
"Voter Supression"... The Young TURDS strike again! In the U.S., NOT having an ID card can be a MISDEMEANOR, known as "Failure To Identify To A Police Officer". It's not exactly a "CRIME", unless you're ASKED and don't PRODUCE any I.D. when a cop asks. There is NO good reason NOT to verify AMERICAN voters, unless the idea is to "vote EARLY and vote OFTEN", a DEMOCRAP motto!
@kate71342 "not required " You'll need to READ a bit. In almost EVERY STATE, there ARE "failure to account" laws, REQUIRING some form of I.D. Better ask somebody!
@A1B1C198 Really? Super fast? You're last post was three minutes ago. I do not consider three minute breaks between posts "super fast." But let's talk logistics. Most PCs have multiple web browsers on them (I currently have Internet Explorer and Google Chrome) from which you can be logged in on different accounts at the same time, shit-for-brains. Then there is the little thing that you average one response to me at a time, despite your claim that you're really three people on three screen names
@A1B1C198 "You claim we're all the same person and you're arguing over which one would be the sock puppet?"
No I claimed that while there numerous sock puppet accounts on you tube, it doesn't matter if killjoy is one since he's probably an idiot in every persona he uses. I didnt' accuse you of anything but an over eagerness when it comes to the reply button.
@killjoy1001001 Really? I've been wanting to add more fake internet lawyers to my list of people I've curbstomped on youtube. I've only done it seven or eight times now. Anywho, now that I've completely falsified your point, where are you going to next?
Oh, and I do love how an entire office of lawyers all happen to have the same hilariously flawed writing style and limited vocabulary. You really are a total failure.
@killjoy1001001 Sorry, shit-for-brains, it's not an assumption. Three accounts, all of which use the exact same shitty writing style and vocabulary? We're in sockpuppet territory. But I do love that you're so insecure that you have to create these hilarious personas that you're actually three lawyers from Iowa.
You really are a pathetic piece of human fecal material. But let's get back to how it turns out you get all your information from email forwards!
@killjoy1001001 Nope. I'll give you some hints for the next time you attempt to troll someone like this. See, "playing off" someone else's post, shit-for-brains, involves clever names and turns of phrases. Now, if I had a friend with me, at the moment, she might start also calling you "shit-for-brains." "Playing off" someone else's post does not extend to the areas of writing style. That's where your aggressive misuse of ellipsis comes into play across your accounts, and similar giveaways.
@A1B1C198 Oh, shit-for-brains, you are a moron. No, I didn't call someone "shit for brains," I called them "shit-for-brains." Notice the hyphens? That's writing style. And little tricks like that are how a dumbass like you could actually convince someone you are more than just one mental invalid living in his mother's basement.
@DopesandChange Hey, remember when, just moments ago, it turned out you got all your information from email forwards? And shockingly enough, it turned out to be false? That's some pretty steep humiliation you're suffering, shit-for-brains.
@A1B1C198 Hey, shit-for-brains, remember when you claimed something was true based off an email forward... and it turned out to be false? Why, yes, that's what has caused all of us to fall out of our chairs laughing, and cause you to make this abysmally stupid statement in attempts to distract from it.
@A1B1C198 Oh shit-for-brains! We've already been over this. That was when you started off on this hilarious side trip of claiming to be a room full of lawyers, none of whom can write for shit. You really are garbage.
@killjoy1001001 Ahh, but what happened was that I recognized the name was merely you projecting your insecurities on me, shit-for-brains. So I started applying (correctly) it to you and your many sockpuppets. One of these days, the fecal material inside your head might develop enough of a charge to allow you something approaching a thought process. When that day comes, come see me and I might be willing to give you what little education you can handle.
@DopesandChange Which ever conservatard decided to. I neither know nor care, shit-for-brains. All I know is that you were peddling yet more bullshit and you got found out. Hilarious, shit-for-brains.
But we're all the same person sweetums. Remember? So I guess captain sock puppet master had to forward it to himself before his alter-ego knew what it said?.....Right?
That's one hell af a corner you've backed yourself into huh shit for brains?
You mean killjoy right?.....cause I'm killjoy......and he's me.....right?.....and abc is a sock puppet....and e'maills are coming from some other mystery third party.....or would that be a fourth party?
Anywho.....I'm sure you'll figure it all out someday sunshine. (at Bellevue)
There's no way to look at someone's channel and determine what they wrote was the result of something they copied from an e-mail that was forwarded to them IN THE FIRST PLACE.....any way you slice it....all four wheels have come off your wagon.....poor, poor shit for brains.
@killjoy1001001 You can, however shit-for-brains, take a statement someone makes and then match it up to an email forward that's currently going around. At that point it can safely be assumed that the statement was paraphrasing the email forward, particularly when that statement turns out to be false, as happened to you. Oh shit-for-brains, you are utter garbage.
@A1B1C198 Why yes, the idea that when someone makes a statement from an email forward that they got the idea from said email forward is a CRAZY theory, shit-for-brains.
You really are a waste of proteins that could be put to better use feeding starving African children.
Perhaps you can tell us all about this phatom e-mail of yours and who sent it to you. After all...e-mails must arrive with the sender's address. (this ought to be good folks)
He's a self-made man, he's John Republican. He worked hard all of his life to build a stack of cash so high and now he works hard to make sure that you don't get the same breaks that he did...
Congress aproval rating has been dismal for years, as it was in 2010.
Who did the people choose to occupy those seats? Who' (by and large) is in the freshman class? You know who. True conservatives who do not have enough seats to be influential yet. Hence the continued public disapproval. 2012 will fish the "flust out" so to speak. I'll be right here on Nov 3rd to watch you eat crow
@DopesandChange You are an idiot. There are maybe 10% of congress who are not conservatives. As far as Congress's approval rating, well that's the product of Republican strategy. The Republicans have, intentionally and with malice, pursued actions, such as the entirely phony debt ceiling crisis, that make Americans view congress as inherently dysfunctional. They believe that, being the "anti-government" party, they'll win the benefits of the dysfunction they, themselves, created. They're scum.
@killjoy1001001 Really? Care to name one economically liberal policy that the congress you claim is 80% liberal or at least apathetic has passed, dipshit?
How about no money down, no income verification home loans through their pals at fannie freddie BOA and all the way to morgage backed securities at via Wall St. "Every American must own a home" : (brought to you by Ted, George, Barney, Congress & the Senate)
@killjoy1001001 Not this congress, and that was actually the Bush administration's fault, and done at the behest of the banks, moron. Seriously, all of this is the Bush admin's policy, acting with a Republican congress... again for the banks. To quote Bush himself, "every American having the right and a chance to own a home."
I see you've done a fairly good job making a fool of yourself, moron.
Thanks for admitting Bush is a liberal funny man. Unless you believe it's NOT liberal social policy to award no income verification loans.....I don't think even someone as stupid as you is willing to take that leap.
As for Obama his law firm was sueing the banks for not giving out ENOUGH of those loans (until the banks caved amid expensive legal battles).....now then, try to fashion any response will not dig you deeper.
@killjoy1001001 Why yes, it is not liberal policy to award such loans, that's pure conservative policy. As shown by the very fact that the banks were salivating over such things. Liberal social policy involves affordable public housing, exactly the kind that is tremendously successful, and yet consistently under built.
Nope. The banks themselves were awarding those loans as fast as they could. Prime example: Countrywide. You're such a piece of human garbage.
So Obama was not only sueing in the intrest of CONSERVATIVE POLICY, but he was sueing banks that were more than willing to give the loans anyway? WOOOOOOOOOOOW!
What color is the sky in your world?
You may want to sit and think a while. You're in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over your head here.
@killjoy1001001 Really? Please offer proof that Obama was preforming this particular law suit, you epic shithead.
But anyway, listen to "This American Life"'s story "The Giant Pool of Money" to hear the actual bank employees talk about just how desperate they were for exactly the kinds of loans you are claiming they didn't want to give out.
Shhhhh.....come closer, I'm going to give you a well kept secret to th aquisition of common knowlege.
It's called GOOGLE.....try it some time.
I'll be right here on November 3rd to wath you eat your crow.
Off to bed with you now sweet pea. Trying to convince yourself that D's & R's are different and tying your twisted liberal logic into a pretzel must have been exausting.
@killjoy1001001 Wow, you shouldn't have done that, moron. When you ask people to google for you (a bad sign already since it is an admission you are speaking in bad faith) you should be sure of what they are going to get. Right from Snopes:
"Claim: Barack Obama filed a lawsuit to require banks to 'make loans to poor people.'
Shhhhhhhhh.....I know you're tired baby......we believe you......of coarse Obama hates loans for poor illegal folks......off to bed with you now.....'at a girl.
@DopesandChange Wow. You felt it necessary to pull out three whole sockpuppets in order to annoy me with your stupidity. You must really be desperate. How pathetic.
Oh god that sounds horrible, mandatory vote in Australia's made this so easy for me. It can seem questionable, but its the only that that's truly ethical and if you really don't want to its only a small fee.
They want the last bit of power the people have our vote fucking sad. Mid-terms should be ended because of voter fatigue. Also, I had no idea the non-photo Id #'s were so high. I thought every1 had to get 1 when they turned 18. Mainstream media sux balls
It has not always been the case but in our recent history the Republican leaders depend on the poorly educated. Go to a tea party rally - it is mind numbing to listen to the crazies.
Do people realize just how insane this is? This is criminal. That this is accepted is amazing to me. Though most people aren't even aware, because the propaganda apparatus known as the mainstream media is keeping people uninformed.
Thankfully there is The Young Turks. MSNBC is better than Fox and CNN, but not by a whole lot. They still pimp Democrats as the solution, even though both parties are really just one party, THE BUSINESS PARTY.
@PurpleHoneyBear Yes, HOW DARE WE ASK VOTERS TO PROVE WHO THEY ARE! That is the height of a banana republic, actually requiring people to identify themselves!
So are you saying a person shouldn't have to show proof when they vote? I find fault with your mindset in this. A person has to show ID to buy alcohol, and those demographics who want to drink find a way to get photo ID, but they can't get one to vote? Please, maybe voting just isn't that important to some people. I like your channel, but get seriously tired of all the one sided stories. I vote issues. Maybe it's time more people did as well. Think outside your little box.
@dffykvn What? That doesn't even make sense. Suposing, just for a moment, what you are saying is true. Wouldn't republicans then also have long lines? That being the case how would that give them an advantage?
I am neither republican or democrat,as I stated beffore, but to my way of thinking that logic is flawed.
@rondygal Republicans rely on older voters, dems rely on younger voters
The belief is that the republican voters who vote for them consistently are already registered while dems rely on people from colleges who aren't cynics and actually want to change things for the better.
They're doing their best to shut down registration drives to make it harder for them to get democratic voters registered
(cont'd) Having said that, Republicans have continued the same southern strategy that has sustained them for 40 years. This is the new Jim Crow, but instead of race, it is now class. Appeal to as few people as possible (hopefully who are lockstep in likemindness), while still getting elected.
Sad part is the Republicans don't need to attempt to suppress Dem voters. Apathy cost Democrats the elections in 2010, because people don't care. They will vote in droves when it comes to American Idol, but have to pull teeth to get people to do something that people died for. Why do you think the same bums go back to Washington every two years?
@gj804 This statement is more true now then when I first said it. Democrats - Liberals and Progressives are very, very good at bitching and moaning but they can not Govern.
@chaumont20 I disagree. Liberals and progressives know how to govern very well.
Problem is that the US hasn't elected a liberal since the 50s. Canadian Liberals have not only balanced the budget, but balanced it after it's been fucked to hell, and still manage to pay for universal health care.
@gj804 Most economists agree that under Democrat rule the U.S. will never again get to 5% unemployment. That may be acceptable to you but the American people will never accept that. I hope you enjoy the next 14 months defending 9.2% unemployment, 2 Trillion dollar deficits and .4% growth in GDP.
@chaumont20 Yes, most economists who are in the Republican pockets agree with that first statement. No one is accepting the lack of job growth but I would hardly believe that anyone thinks that a Republican policies of borrow and spend with even more corporate handouts and corporate tax cuts to the rich (which are in place now and have been for decades) will create job growth.
@chaumont20 Really? I would like a list of all the economists who agree that under Democrat rule the U.S. will never get to 5% unemployment. That way I know which economists to laugh at and preemptively dismiss for making such a stupid claim, moron.
@thanatos101b Will you laugh at them the same way I laugh at your Climate Scientists. I hope you enjoy the next 14 months defending 9.2% unemployment, 2 Trillion dollar deficits and .4% growth in GDP.
@thanatos101b No I laugh at your Climate Scientists because they are anti oil, anti corporation, anti capitalist and anti American clowns and more and more people are coming to realize this. China is growing at 10% GDP even Cuba is outgrowing us at 2% GDP because they don't listen to your Climate Scientists.
@chaumont20 Notice on your list of things that supposedly Climate Scientists supposedly are, one of them isn't "Wrong," scum-bag. No, China is growing because China is a nation with the state directed capitalism and intense stimulus spending that morons like you fight against here. Which is pretty much how China has destroyed the American economy.
@thanatos101b Most people already know that your Climate Scientists are " Wrong ". China is growing because they undestand the importance of oil and that is how and why China is doing so well. Only clowns and fools like you want to cut off our own power supply. I hope you enjoyed Nov 2010 because that was only a appitizer for the beatdown that you will absorb in Nov 2012, 2014, 2016 ,2018.......
@chaumont20 If "most people" know that, then "most people" are idiots on the level of the Moon Landing Deniers, the birthers and the 9/11 truthers. Oh, please, China has moved so far past oil, that a simpleton like you couldn't even fathom their plans. Specifically China's attempting to buy up all the rare minerals on the planet, because they know those Climate Scientists are right, and soon the entire world will have to invest in green tech... owned by China. You anti-Americans make me sick.
@thanatos101b I thought that American was evil because we stole the planets resources, now your saying that that China is great because of it. The last 3 " green tech " places that President Obama has visited has gone bankrupt. I believe that's a sign of things to come. Instead of calling me anti american shouldn't you be calling me a SOB
@chaumont20 Sorry, only conservative scum like you are evil, and anti-American. No, I'm saying China is smart because it is not run by businesses, but rather leaders who have at least some interest in their nation being a success. Oh, and do you understand what a "recession" is, moron? Apparently not. Green technology is new and expensive to install and therefore not particularly suited to a recession economy. But I do love the admission you read The Blaze or Rush Limbaugh, anti-American scum.
@chaumont20 Sorry, only conservative scum like you are evil, and anti-American. No, I'm saying China is smart because it is not run by businesses, but rather leaders who have at least some interest in their nation being a success. Oh, and do you understand what a "recession" is, moron? Apparently not. Green technology is new and expensive to install and therefore not particularly suited to a recession economy. But I do love the admission you read The Blaze or Rush Limbaugh, anti-American scum.
That's sickening, I mean I won't even begin to try to make a point of the value of democracy since I don't have any pretensions of their disgust with it anylonger.
But how the far-right criminals can oeprate so openly in your country and pervert "democracy" to their own wicked ends... :S
@underbjorn Meh, the pukes are a step away from putting red A's on atheist businesses (a tea party preachers internet atheist registry) and tea party marching on liberal establishments.
Look, I am against poll taxes as much as anyone... but there have been clear cut cases of voter disenfranchisment.
If you want to open a bank account, go to Community College, get a job, buy a pack of cigarretes or a 6 pack, etc... you have to have an ID.
If you wan't to participate in government functions you have to prove your identity. It will also get rid of erroneous accusations that illegal immigrants or illegal voting is taking place. The left is actually protected.
Obama's "uncle" is not his uncle at all. He's Obama's half brother. You'll have to go ask Barry's mungral family how that one works. Further, killjoys truth cuts you to the bone. I can see it in your posts. Conservatives will SQUASH the liberal defectives (both Democrat and RINO alilke) in 2012, just as we did in in '10.
The gap will be HUGE, and you can scream "voter fraud" all the way to the nut house as far as I'm concerned.....and I'm serious.....you need help.
@DopesandChange You guys need to get your stories straight becuase even your own propaganda says he his uncle. Obama's half brother still lives in kenya.
Not that it matters since uncle or half brother, this guy was not close to barack obama.
"..., and you can scream "voter fraud"
And again, you seem to have missed your own right wing propaganda.
It's the right screaming "voter fraud".
How can you argue against a liberal position when you dont' even know what the conservative one is?
gaps and screaming voter fraud, that's exactly what the right wingers did when Obama won by a 10 million vote margin.
Also but less so in 2006 when the Democrats gained control of congress without losing a single seat, an act which was unprecedented and republicans have never been able to copy. Not in 1994. Not in 2010
And subsequently used that to excuse trying to restrict people from voting.
@mrjeremiahross " I am against poll taxes as much as anyone... but there have been clear cut cases of voter disenfranchisment."
I think you are confusing voter disfranchisement with vote fraud.
The voter fraud claim is that there people (at least 1000s to make it work) that are voting illegally. But the most concerted search only found 86 cases
Disfranchisement is keeping legitimate voters from voting & that is happening, often under the guise of stopping voter fraud.
They forgot about the millions of Felons that can't vote,in some states as little as a 1/2 ounce of pot is a felony,Iam in louisiana, an one ounce of pot is a felony,they should not have the right to take your voteing rights away over a such small amount of pot.
nelms78 2 weeks ago
A liberal pulling the race card again......surprise surprise....
ingosnow25 1 month ago in playlist Politics
If you don't have an ID, GET ONE! Stop being lazy.
vjohn16 2 months ago
Republicans like to cheat and suppress voters... its only natural coming from a scumbag party filled with scumbag people
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MultiAhka 2 months ago
"IT'S OUR OBLIGATION!" A 65 year old disabled Vietnam Veteran called in, (protesting the republicans voter suppression efforts.) Said "I didn't need a stinking Photo ID in order to vote, before leaving a piece of myself in Vietnam, while fighting for our rights. And no one better dare ask me for it NOW!" When Thom Hartmann thanked him for his service and his courage for standing up for our rights. The Veteran responded "STANDING UP FOR OUR RIGHTS DOESN'T REQUIRE COURAGE, IT'S OUR OBLIGATION!"
loveruleshate 4 months ago
Read the Right Wing sheep comments -- they like it when their party suppresses votes because they know that they can't win elections leaving voting laws they way they are because they're so damn unpopular. Expect more of this from our nation's very own communist party, know as the GOP.
Marchant2 5 months ago
I couldn't even make it through this whole video. People in NYC don't drive and thusly don't have I.D.? I'm sorry, but I know people that do not have cars and have never driven yet still have a state-issued I.D. card.
You know why? You need one to work legally. You need one to open a bank account. You need one get utilities. You need one do tons of everyday things in live and if you ever have a run in with the police, you need one as well.
Stupid arguments are stupid.
RavenGlenn 5 months ago
Apply statistics of general pop to a voter demographic is one of he oldest statistical jujutsu moves... Democracy, yeah when it's convenient, but when it's not.." LMAO you mean Wisconsin? again typical liberal projecting what they do best..
carlindelco 5 months ago
"Since jim crow laws and segregation" ? does this tart know that was a DEMONcratic law? How does shorter hours hurt democrats, when MOST of their supporters don't work? They can go anytime..
carlindelco 5 months ago
Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) gave ACORN another $461,086 in January. The funds were earmarked for ACORN Housing Corp. in January under HUD’s Self-help Homeownership Opportunity Program (SHOP), according to the government website USAspending.gov.
In order words, the Obama administration gave fraud-ridden ACORN nearly a half million dollars to be used on housing development.
BarryDead 5 months ago
GEE, I HAVE TO HAVE AN ISSUED ID TO GET A FISHING LICENSE BUT NONE TO VOTE?
WHY ARE DIMOCRATS SO SCARED OF ACCURATE VOTING/ VOTER ROLLS?
A QUESTION THAT MUST BE ASKED.
AbitaVets 5 months ago
Actually Michael Shure is not entirely right about access to the polls - depending on your demographic area. There are liberals that are clearly 'welcomed' at polls in conservative populated areas, and democratics being frown upon and even hated if they go to the polls in liberal populated areas. I've witness this first hand. Society's Sheeple have a preconception of how Liberals and Conservatives should appear in presences. Should I look at certain way to have access to the Polls?
rabbitails 5 months ago
Actually Michael Shure is not entirely right about access to the polls - depending on your demographic area. There are liberals that are clearly 'welcomed' at polls in conservative populated areas, and democratics being frown upon and even hated if they go to the polls in liberal populated areas. I've witness this first hand. Society's Sheeple have a preconception of how Liberals and Conservatives should appear in presences. Should I look at certain way to have access to the Polls?
rabbitails 5 months ago
well get an ID so you can vote, morons. Go down to the DMV and get an ID and then vote, DUH!!!
Am i the only person with a brain?
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Stevie68000 5 months ago
Look at you clinging to a fantasy e-mail for which you cannot eve identify a sender.
Pathetic to say the least.
DopesandChange 5 months ago 2
hate these self-absorbed assholes
stupidjunk878 5 months ago
Obama already won the war on voting by going for a second term after pissing and shitting all over his voters. I have my boat ready to go fishing the election day.
MastermindX 6 months ago 2
Enter "failure to identify to a police officer" and criminaldefenselawyer in google,
and take a look at the LIST of States that DO, in FACT, have FINES and/or JAIL TIME for those who do NOT have id, or are otherwise unable or unwilling to ID themselves to a cop. "not required"...
DTansy 6 months ago 6
@DTansy wow, you are such a liar. According to your own source, "The first includes refusing to provide your name, address or other requested information when you have been lawfully arrested or detained, or when a police officer has reason to believe you may be a witness to any type of criminal offense. The second distinction includes the same circumstances but it is more specific to if you provide the wrong personal information to an officer." It has nothing to do with actually having an ID.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
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@thanatos101b - "or are otherwise unable or unwilling to ID themselves to a cop" Didja read that, dickless? Do you have a problem with COM-PRE-HEN-SION, dickless? Your attempts at "argument" have ALWAYS been reminiscient of a slow public school 3rd grade underachiever, you simply blither with abandon! Good luck with that comprehension problem, dumbass!
DTansy 6 months ago 4
@thanatos101b - BTW, (just FYI) To "I.D." oneself can mean a LOT more than a simple I.D. "card", little jackass! You have "I.D.'d" yourself by simply giving your NAME, if it actually IS your name. As YOU said, little sad sack, "includes refusing to provide your name... or other requested information". Get it now, dumbass? Probably not. I assume you're just another of the Obamunists "useful idiots". Good luck with that!
DTansy 6 months ago 4
@DTansy,
Perhaps this clown can explain how illegals (including Obama's uncle) aquire valid Mass drivers licences by the thousands. Ask him that.
A1B1C198 6 months ago 3
@DTansy I like this. You just contradicted yourself, so not only are you lying, you are lying stupidly. To ID yourself, according to your own source, means to tell a police officer your name and other requested information. It has nothing to do with a "simple I.D. 'card'" moron. Yep, you've been caught lying, by your own source and your own admission, asshat.
Take a literacy class.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b - Once again you empty-headed drone, AFTER you repeated EXACTLY what I've already said, you tell ME I contradicted myself. I apparently OVERESTIMATED the level of public school you miserably FAILED, having guessed your blistering ignorance as a 3rd-grade dropout. Simply "telling a cop your name" is NOT sufficient ID, dumbass, or it would be enough to buy BOOZE. A moron has an IQ of about 80, but you're less than SURELY half of THAT...
DTansy 5 months ago 3
@DTansy,
I see you're making all kinds of freinds here shit for brains!.....perhaps it's time you have a hard look at the reasons why you're so unpopular.
Big Kiss~
killjoy1001001 5 months ago
@DTansy,
Sorry DT. that was meant for the liberal dumbass.
peace
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DTansy 5 months ago
@DTansy i was referring to federal law
kate71342 6 months ago
@kate71342 - There's NO "Federal law" requiring ANYONE to obtain an I.D., but no STATE is "Federal", and EACH state has the right to make their OWN LAWS as they see fit. Also, regardless WHAT the document, if it describes YOU, it IS, in FACT, "IDENTIFICATION", isn't it? You DON'T have to have I.D. to LIVE in the U.S., you only need it to do things like DRIVE, buy a house, rent an apartment or a DVD, enter a federal building, and so on and so on and so on.
DTansy 5 months ago 3
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Those who insist on military might are neo-cons.
Those who think neutrality in foreign affairs is ill-advised are neo-cons.
Many news media outlets have a neo-con agenda.
Are you a neo-con?
Ron Paul says neo-cons are NOT CONSERVATIVES!
Definition and names of neo-cons: /watch?v=nuefjIYKkjE
More on the history of neo-conservatism vs libertarianism /watch?v=45JSYIuTk0Y
vechorik 5 months ago
"Voter Supression"... The Young TURDS strike again! In the U.S., NOT having an ID card can be a MISDEMEANOR, known as "Failure To Identify To A Police Officer". It's not exactly a "CRIME", unless you're ASKED and don't PRODUCE any I.D. when a cop asks. There is NO good reason NOT to verify AMERICAN voters, unless the idea is to "vote EARLY and vote OFTEN", a DEMOCRAP motto!
DTansy 6 months ago 2
@DTansy you're actually not required to have an i.d. to live in this counrty
kate71342 6 months ago
@kate71342 "not required " You'll need to READ a bit. In almost EVERY STATE, there ARE "failure to account" laws, REQUIRING some form of I.D. Better ask somebody!
DTansy 6 months ago 2
@DTansy funny how i was allowed to just use my birth certificate and baptismal record
kate71342 6 months ago
I'm sure you know you're only allowed one screen name per e-mail account. KILLJOY"S A SUPER FASR MAGITION WITH THAT SINGLE PC!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 Really? Super fast? You're last post was three minutes ago. I do not consider three minute breaks between posts "super fast." But let's talk logistics. Most PCs have multiple web browsers on them (I currently have Internet Explorer and Google Chrome) from which you can be logged in on different accounts at the same time, shit-for-brains. Then there is the little thing that you average one response to me at a time, despite your claim that you're really three people on three screen names
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 firstly, you might want to only hit reply once.
Secondly, it's not so hard to make dummy accounts.
In fact it's recently come out that the pentagon and PR firms have programs that let one do this easily and keep track of one's false persona's
lastly, it doesn't matter. Killjoy may be a sock puppet. But so many like him have this borg like mentality he could just as easily be a parrot.
In either case he's still wrong.
booley 6 months ago
@booley,
You claim we're all the same person and you're arguing over which one would be the sock puppet?
Think about that for a moment while I piss my pants laughing.
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 "You claim we're all the same person and you're arguing over which one would be the sock puppet?"
No I claimed that while there numerous sock puppet accounts on you tube, it doesn't matter if killjoy is one since he's probably an idiot in every persona he uses. I didnt' accuse you of anything but an over eagerness when it comes to the reply button.
You didnt' actually read what I wrote, did you?
Guess it's my turn to laugh at you.
booley 5 months ago
You called called someome shit for brains. That's killjoy's MO. YOU MUST BE KILLJOY!
great logic sweet pea
A1B1C198 6 months ago
Don't huff an puff so much sweet pea.....the house of cards you've built is very fragile.
Welcome to our office (we're all lawyers by the way)
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Really? I've been wanting to add more fake internet lawyers to my list of people I've curbstomped on youtube. I've only done it seven or eight times now. Anywho, now that I've completely falsified your point, where are you going to next?
Oh, and I do love how an entire office of lawyers all happen to have the same hilariously flawed writing style and limited vocabulary. You really are a total failure.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
We're all one person! Wow!......boy you're just full of moronic assumptions aren't you.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Sorry, shit-for-brains, it's not an assumption. Three accounts, all of which use the exact same shitty writing style and vocabulary? We're in sockpuppet territory. But I do love that you're so insecure that you have to create these hilarious personas that you're actually three lawyers from Iowa.
You really are a pathetic piece of human fecal material. But let's get back to how it turns out you get all your information from email forwards!
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Were reading each others posts and playing off them and we're all on the same network......duh!
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001,
E-mail forwards? Whoo forwards email when all of us are looking at the same massage board?
Great job Sherlock! What a dumb ass.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 I like how you just referred to yourself as a "dumb ass." You insult yourself better than I ever could, shit-for-brains.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Nope. I'll give you some hints for the next time you attempt to troll someone like this. See, "playing off" someone else's post, shit-for-brains, involves clever names and turns of phrases. Now, if I had a friend with me, at the moment, she might start also calling you "shit-for-brains." "Playing off" someone else's post does not extend to the areas of writing style. That's where your aggressive misuse of ellipsis comes into play across your accounts, and similar giveaways.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b
You called called someome shit for brains. That's killjoy's MO. YOU MUST BE KILLJOY!
great logic sweet pea
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 Oh, shit-for-brains, you are a moron. No, I didn't call someone "shit for brains," I called them "shit-for-brains." Notice the hyphens? That's writing style. And little tricks like that are how a dumbass like you could actually convince someone you are more than just one mental invalid living in his mother's basement.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b
killjoy?.....is that you?.....(get yet sweet pea)
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Extra Extra read all about it. No income verification Home loans is not liberal policy. Pigs fly. TIN HATS FOR SALE!
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@DopesandChange Hey, remember when, just moments ago, it turned out you got all your information from email forwards? And shockingly enough, it turned out to be false? That's some pretty steep humiliation you're suffering, shit-for-brains.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
So you claim we're all the same person, and you're arguing over which is the sock puppet?
Think about that for a moment while I piss my pants laughing.
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 Hey, shit-for-brains, remember when you claimed something was true based off an email forward... and it turned out to be false? Why, yes, that's what has caused all of us to fall out of our chairs laughing, and cause you to make this abysmally stupid statement in attempts to distract from it.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
I claimed that "something" was true that was false?
......and what prey-tell would that be skippy?
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 Oh shit-for-brains! We've already been over this. That was when you started off on this hilarious side trip of claiming to be a room full of lawyers, none of whom can write for shit. You really are garbage.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Have a look at the board. See any support?
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 What are you blathering about now, shit-for-brains?
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Shit for brains is the nickname I gave to you. Don't try to pawn it off on someone else.
.....and for god's sake try to be original once in a while.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Ahh, but what happened was that I recognized the name was merely you projecting your insecurities on me, shit-for-brains. So I started applying (correctly) it to you and your many sockpuppets. One of these days, the fecal material inside your head might develop enough of a charge to allow you something approaching a thought process. When that day comes, come see me and I might be willing to give you what little education you can handle.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Thanks Dr. Phil. We're all grateful for your crack psycho-analysis.
TIN HATS FOR SALE!
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@DopesandChange Oh, shit-for-brains, let's go back to discussing how you read an email forward and attempted to pass it off as fact!
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Great Idea!!!! Who forwarded me the e-mail?
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@DopesandChange Which ever conservatard decided to. I neither know nor care, shit-for-brains. All I know is that you were peddling yet more bullshit and you got found out. Hilarious, shit-for-brains.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
But we're all the same person sweetums. Remember? So I guess captain sock puppet master had to forward it to himself before his alter-ego knew what it said?.....Right?
That's one hell af a corner you've backed yourself into huh shit for brains?
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@DopesandChange Again, you babble stupidly, shit-for-brains. What are you blabbering about?
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
You mean killjoy right?.....cause I'm killjoy......and he's me.....right?.....and abc is a sock puppet....and e'maills are coming from some other mystery third party.....or would that be a fourth party?
Anywho.....I'm sure you'll figure it all out someday sunshine. (at Bellevue)
Good luck now.
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
There's no way to look at someone's channel and determine what they wrote was the result of something they copied from an e-mail that was forwarded to them IN THE FIRST PLACE.....any way you slice it....all four wheels have come off your wagon.....poor, poor shit for brains.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 You can, however shit-for-brains, take a statement someone makes and then match it up to an email forward that's currently going around. At that point it can safely be assumed that the statement was paraphrasing the email forward, particularly when that statement turns out to be false, as happened to you. Oh shit-for-brains, you are utter garbage.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Wow. That's one hell of a theory you got the Sherlock!
Shhhhhh!.....they may be listening!.....is your door locked?!
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 Why yes, the idea that when someone makes a statement from an email forward that they got the idea from said email forward is a CRAZY theory, shit-for-brains.
You really are a waste of proteins that could be put to better use feeding starving African children.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Perhaps you can tell us all about this phatom e-mail of yours and who sent it to you. After all...e-mails must arrive with the sender's address. (this ought to be good folks)
A1B1C198 5 months ago
@thanatos101b,
What's the matter shit for brains?.....cat got your tongue?
A1B1C198 6 months ago
He's a self-made man, he's John Republican. He worked hard all of his life to build a stack of cash so high and now he works hard to make sure that you don't get the same breaks that he did...
daveelderdotcom 6 months ago
Congress aproval rating has been dismal for years, as it was in 2010.
Who did the people choose to occupy those seats? Who' (by and large) is in the freshman class? You know who. True conservatives who do not have enough seats to be influential yet. Hence the continued public disapproval. 2012 will fish the "flust out" so to speak. I'll be right here on Nov 3rd to watch you eat crow
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@DopesandChange You are an idiot. There are maybe 10% of congress who are not conservatives. As far as Congress's approval rating, well that's the product of Republican strategy. The Republicans have, intentionally and with malice, pursued actions, such as the entirely phony debt ceiling crisis, that make Americans view congress as inherently dysfunctional. They believe that, being the "anti-government" party, they'll win the benefits of the dysfunction they, themselves, created. They're scum.
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@thanatos101b,
Sorry moron, 80% of Congress are rank & file Republicans (in name only) and Dems (translation : liberals)
Go back to your daytime tv shit for brains.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Really? Care to name one economically liberal policy that the congress you claim is 80% liberal or at least apathetic has passed, dipshit?
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
How about no money down, no income verification home loans through their pals at fannie freddie BOA and all the way to morgage backed securities at via Wall St. "Every American must own a home" : (brought to you by Ted, George, Barney, Congress & the Senate)
Care to make a further fool of yourself today?
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Not this congress, and that was actually the Bush administration's fault, and done at the behest of the banks, moron. Seriously, all of this is the Bush admin's policy, acting with a Republican congress... again for the banks. To quote Bush himself, "every American having the right and a chance to own a home."
I see you've done a fairly good job making a fool of yourself, moron.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Thanks for admitting Bush is a liberal funny man. Unless you believe it's NOT liberal social policy to award no income verification loans.....I don't think even someone as stupid as you is willing to take that leap.
As for Obama his law firm was sueing the banks for not giving out ENOUGH of those loans (until the banks caved amid expensive legal battles).....now then, try to fashion any response will not dig you deeper.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Why yes, it is not liberal policy to award such loans, that's pure conservative policy. As shown by the very fact that the banks were salivating over such things. Liberal social policy involves affordable public housing, exactly the kind that is tremendously successful, and yet consistently under built.
Nope. The banks themselves were awarding those loans as fast as they could. Prime example: Countrywide. You're such a piece of human garbage.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
So Obama was not only sueing in the intrest of CONSERVATIVE POLICY, but he was sueing banks that were more than willing to give the loans anyway? WOOOOOOOOOOOW!
What color is the sky in your world?
You may want to sit and think a while. You're in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over your head here.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Really? Please offer proof that Obama was preforming this particular law suit, you epic shithead.
But anyway, listen to "This American Life"'s story "The Giant Pool of Money" to hear the actual bank employees talk about just how desperate they were for exactly the kinds of loans you are claiming they didn't want to give out.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Shhhhh.....come closer, I'm going to give you a well kept secret to th aquisition of common knowlege.
It's called GOOGLE.....try it some time.
I'll be right here on November 3rd to wath you eat your crow.
Off to bed with you now sweet pea. Trying to convince yourself that D's & R's are different and tying your twisted liberal logic into a pretzel must have been exausting.
Big Kiss~
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Wow, you shouldn't have done that, moron. When you ask people to google for you (a bad sign already since it is an admission you are speaking in bad faith) you should be sure of what they are going to get. Right from Snopes:
"Claim: Barack Obama filed a lawsuit to require banks to 'make loans to poor people.'
Status: False."
You are such a worthless shit brain.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Shhhhhhhhh.....I know you're tired baby......we believe you......of coarse Obama hates loans for poor illegal folks......off to bed with you now.....'at a girl.
Big Kiss~
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@A1B1C198 Aww. Bringing out the sockpuppets? Can't win an argument on your own so you have to fake a dogpile? How pathetic, shit-for-brains.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
You call your diatribe "arguement"?
Get some rest pumpkin.
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@DopesandChange Wow. You felt it necessary to pull out three whole sockpuppets in order to annoy me with your stupidity. You must really be desperate. How pathetic.
thanatos101b 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Don't huff an puff so much sweet pea.....the house of cards you've built is very fragile.
Welcome to our office (we're a an Iowa law firm by the way)
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
You're high.
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Everything OK there sparky?
A1B1C198 6 months ago
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Obama's illegal "uncle" was just caught drunk in Mass with a valid Mass drivers licence.
He votes, collects food stamps, welfare, lives in section 8 housing, and collects free health care on our dime.
A problem that is RAMPANT IN MASS. Thousands of illegals are arrested with VALID licences (and of course released) every year in Mass.
I'm going to let you get back to your rafting trip down Denial River.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
Yeah right.....the GOP are standing in the way.....TIN HATS FOR SALE!
Whatever the "The Young Jerks" are on.....give me three.
A1B1C198 6 months ago
Do you progressives actually know how stupid and pathetic you sound?
calimar28 6 months ago
Oh god that sounds horrible, mandatory vote in Australia's made this so easy for me. It can seem questionable, but its the only that that's truly ethical and if you really don't want to its only a small fee.
Keizril 6 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@Keizril,
Be sure to tune in Thursday evening on any channel for the greatest stand up comedian of all time!
DopesandChange 6 months ago
A Tea Party rally is a scary thing. Reminds me a lot of a Nazi rally from the 30s. Mindless propaganda.
lovecraftis 6 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
Mandatory voting in Australia. Cost you thirty bucks not to vote.
Danmill23 6 months ago
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They want the last bit of power the people have our vote fucking sad. Mid-terms should be ended because of voter fatigue. Also, I had no idea the non-photo Id #'s were so high. I thought every1 had to get 1 when they turned 18. Mainstream media sux balls
timoback3000 6 months ago
It has not always been the case but in our recent history the Republican leaders depend on the poorly educated. Go to a tea party rally - it is mind numbing to listen to the crazies.
billoakesattablthree 6 months ago
Voting for some guy for a period of 4 years is not called democracy .
phonecpus 6 months ago
Do people realize just how insane this is? This is criminal. That this is accepted is amazing to me. Though most people aren't even aware, because the propaganda apparatus known as the mainstream media is keeping people uninformed.
Thankfully there is The Young Turks. MSNBC is better than Fox and CNN, but not by a whole lot. They still pimp Democrats as the solution, even though both parties are really just one party, THE BUSINESS PARTY.
PurpleHoneyBear 6 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks 2
@PurpleHoneyBear Yes, HOW DARE WE ASK VOTERS TO PROVE WHO THEY ARE! That is the height of a banana republic, actually requiring people to identify themselves!
calimar28 6 months ago
@calimar28,
Lets say you're illegal, and I want to know you're legit before you're allowed to vote.........
.....who loses?........think moron.....THINK!
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@calimar28 I'm going to make the assumption that this is satirical in nature.
PurpleHoneyBear 6 months ago
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voting should be held on a national holiday, call it "Democracy Day"
InfamousArmstrong 6 months ago
So are you saying a person shouldn't have to show proof when they vote? I find fault with your mindset in this. A person has to show ID to buy alcohol, and those demographics who want to drink find a way to get photo ID, but they can't get one to vote? Please, maybe voting just isn't that important to some people. I like your channel, but get seriously tired of all the one sided stories. I vote issues. Maybe it's time more people did as well. Think outside your little box.
rondygal 6 months ago
@rondygal The republicans doing this shut down dmvs in democratic districts and increase line times in republican districts.
Their "concerns" are window dressing.
dffykvn 6 months ago
@dffykvn What? That doesn't even make sense. Suposing, just for a moment, what you are saying is true. Wouldn't republicans then also have long lines? That being the case how would that give them an advantage?
I am neither republican or democrat,as I stated beffore, but to my way of thinking that logic is flawed.
rondygal 6 months ago
@rondygal Republicans rely on older voters, dems rely on younger voters
The belief is that the republican voters who vote for them consistently are already registered while dems rely on people from colleges who aren't cynics and actually want to change things for the better.
They're doing their best to shut down registration drives to make it harder for them to get democratic voters registered
dffykvn 6 months ago
(cont'd) Having said that, Republicans have continued the same southern strategy that has sustained them for 40 years. This is the new Jim Crow, but instead of race, it is now class. Appeal to as few people as possible (hopefully who are lockstep in likemindness), while still getting elected.
gj804 6 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
Sad part is the Republicans don't need to attempt to suppress Dem voters. Apathy cost Democrats the elections in 2010, because people don't care. They will vote in droves when it comes to American Idol, but have to pull teeth to get people to do something that people died for. Why do you think the same bums go back to Washington every two years?
gj804 6 months ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
@gj804 This statement is more true now then when I first said it. Democrats - Liberals and Progressives are very, very good at bitching and moaning but they can not Govern.
chaumont20 6 months ago
@chaumont20 I disagree. Liberals and progressives know how to govern very well.
Problem is that the US hasn't elected a liberal since the 50s. Canadian Liberals have not only balanced the budget, but balanced it after it's been fucked to hell, and still manage to pay for universal health care.
EziekielNightwind 6 months ago
@chaumont20 Pot, meet kettle. Conservatives (You) have a lot a nerve to talk about governing.
gj804 6 months ago
@gj804 Most economists agree that under Democrat rule the U.S. will never again get to 5% unemployment. That may be acceptable to you but the American people will never accept that. I hope you enjoy the next 14 months defending 9.2% unemployment, 2 Trillion dollar deficits and .4% growth in GDP.
chaumont20 6 months ago
@chaumont20 Yes, most economists who are in the Republican pockets agree with that first statement. No one is accepting the lack of job growth but I would hardly believe that anyone thinks that a Republican policies of borrow and spend with even more corporate handouts and corporate tax cuts to the rich (which are in place now and have been for decades) will create job growth.
gj804 6 months ago
@chaumont20 Really? I would like a list of all the economists who agree that under Democrat rule the U.S. will never get to 5% unemployment. That way I know which economists to laugh at and preemptively dismiss for making such a stupid claim, moron.
thanatos101b 5 months ago
@thanatos101b Will you laugh at them the same way I laugh at your Climate Scientists. I hope you enjoy the next 14 months defending 9.2% unemployment, 2 Trillion dollar deficits and .4% growth in GDP.
chaumont20 5 months ago
@chaumont20 No, you laugh at our climate scientists because you are an ignorant fool.
thanatos101b 5 months ago
@thanatos101b No I laugh at your Climate Scientists because they are anti oil, anti corporation, anti capitalist and anti American clowns and more and more people are coming to realize this. China is growing at 10% GDP even Cuba is outgrowing us at 2% GDP because they don't listen to your Climate Scientists.
chaumont20 5 months ago
@chaumont20 Notice on your list of things that supposedly Climate Scientists supposedly are, one of them isn't "Wrong," scum-bag. No, China is growing because China is a nation with the state directed capitalism and intense stimulus spending that morons like you fight against here. Which is pretty much how China has destroyed the American economy.
People like you are the real anti-Americans.
thanatos101b 5 months ago
@thanatos101b Most people already know that your Climate Scientists are " Wrong ". China is growing because they undestand the importance of oil and that is how and why China is doing so well. Only clowns and fools like you want to cut off our own power supply. I hope you enjoyed Nov 2010 because that was only a appitizer for the beatdown that you will absorb in Nov 2012, 2014, 2016 ,2018.......
chaumont20 5 months ago
@chaumont20 If "most people" know that, then "most people" are idiots on the level of the Moon Landing Deniers, the birthers and the 9/11 truthers. Oh, please, China has moved so far past oil, that a simpleton like you couldn't even fathom their plans. Specifically China's attempting to buy up all the rare minerals on the planet, because they know those Climate Scientists are right, and soon the entire world will have to invest in green tech... owned by China. You anti-Americans make me sick.
thanatos101b 5 months ago
@thanatos101b I thought that American was evil because we stole the planets resources, now your saying that that China is great because of it. The last 3 " green tech " places that President Obama has visited has gone bankrupt. I believe that's a sign of things to come. Instead of calling me anti american shouldn't you be calling me a SOB
chaumont20 5 months ago
@chaumont20 Sorry, only conservative scum like you are evil, and anti-American. No, I'm saying China is smart because it is not run by businesses, but rather leaders who have at least some interest in their nation being a success. Oh, and do you understand what a "recession" is, moron? Apparently not. Green technology is new and expensive to install and therefore not particularly suited to a recession economy. But I do love the admission you read The Blaze or Rush Limbaugh, anti-American scum.
thanatos101b 5 months ago
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@chaumont20 Sorry, only conservative scum like you are evil, and anti-American. No, I'm saying China is smart because it is not run by businesses, but rather leaders who have at least some interest in their nation being a success. Oh, and do you understand what a "recession" is, moron? Apparently not. Green technology is new and expensive to install and therefore not particularly suited to a recession economy. But I do love the admission you read The Blaze or Rush Limbaugh, anti-American scum.
thanatos101b 5 months ago
@chaumont20,
Pay no attention to shit for brains.....he contradicts himself on a regular basis.
killjoy1001001 5 months ago
@thanatos101b,
Hi Pumpkin. I can see you've been at it all night here! Your sleep deprivation is not helping sunshine.
Shhhhhhhh.....Off to bed with you now.
killjoy1001001 5 months ago
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@thanatos101b,
Look at you clinging to a fantasy e-mail for which you cannot even identify a sender. wtf
Pathetic
killjoy1001001 5 months ago
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@thanatos101b,
I see you're making all kinds of freinds here shit for brains!.....perhaps it's time you have a hard look at the reasons why you're so unpopular.
Big Kiss~
killjoy1001001 5 months ago
@chaumont20,
Look at you clinging to a fantasy e-mail for which you cannot even identify a sender. wtf
Pathetic
DopesandChange 5 months ago
Seriously, does it even matter who we get in office anyway?
ironwork92000 6 months ago
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omegavalerius 6 months ago
@omegavalerius We have that too.
Republicans send democrats mail that says when and where to vote....hours after the polls have already closed or the wrong adress for a mail in.
Republicans are just swell human beings that definately shouldn't all be shot into the sun.
dffykvn 6 months ago
@dffykvn ---
Wtf???
Are the far-right extremists allowed to lie to people regarding location and time for voting booths in order to prevent them from casting their vote?
underbjorn 6 months ago
@underbjorn ...sometimes.
Sometimes they go to prison, other times they don't.
It's really hit or miss, and now they've conflated the blatant crimes that they're perpetrating with how poor people ripped off acorn.
Republicans aren't people.
dffykvn 6 months ago
@dffykvn ---
That's sickening, I mean I won't even begin to try to make a point of the value of democracy since I don't have any pretensions of their disgust with it anylonger.
But how the far-right criminals can oeprate so openly in your country and pervert "democracy" to their own wicked ends... :S
underbjorn 6 months ago
@underbjorn Meh, the pukes are a step away from putting red A's on atheist businesses (a tea party preachers internet atheist registry) and tea party marching on liberal establishments.
They're the modern nazis.
dffykvn 6 months ago
Voter ID = National ID Card. Big brother is on his way here.
bigbro02 6 months ago
Look, I am against poll taxes as much as anyone... but there have been clear cut cases of voter disenfranchisment.
If you want to open a bank account, go to Community College, get a job, buy a pack of cigarretes or a 6 pack, etc... you have to have an ID.
If you wan't to participate in government functions you have to prove your identity. It will also get rid of erroneous accusations that illegal immigrants or illegal voting is taking place. The left is actually protected.
mrjeremiahross 6 months ago
@mrjeremiahross,
Obama's illegal brother was just caught drunk in Mass with a valid Mass drivers licence.
He votes, collects food stamps, welfare, lives in section 8 housing, and collects free health care on our dime.
A problem that is RAMPANT IN MASS. Thousands of illegals are arrested with VALID licences (and of course released) every year in Mass.
I'm going to let you get back to your rafting trip down Denial River.
Big Kiss~
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 Obama's half brother (who he met once) wasn't here illegally. He wasnt' here at all. He lives in Kenya.
You are refering to an Uncle, who also Obama has only met once.
Sheesh. Dubya married a murderer and that didn't bother you guys.
Weird how this does,
Anyway, you couldn't take the 2 seconds it required to verify your own mudslinging.
booley 6 months ago
@killjoy1001001 "Thousands of illegals are arrested with VALID licences (and of course released) every year in Mass."
OF course you couldn't get the original story right.
But for some reason we are supposed to trust you at face value.
Uh huh.
OF course if what you said was true then cons insisting on these very IDs to vote makes even less sense.
As long as we buy the myth that they are worried about voter fraud.
booley 6 months ago
@booley,
Obama's "uncle" is not his uncle at all. He's Obama's half brother. You'll have to go ask Barry's mungral family how that one works. Further, killjoys truth cuts you to the bone. I can see it in your posts. Conservatives will SQUASH the liberal defectives (both Democrat and RINO alilke) in 2012, just as we did in in '10.
The gap will be HUGE, and you can scream "voter fraud" all the way to the nut house as far as I'm concerned.....and I'm serious.....you need help.
DopesandChange 6 months ago
@DopesandChange You guys need to get your stories straight becuase even your own propaganda says he his uncle. Obama's half brother still lives in kenya.
Not that it matters since uncle or half brother, this guy was not close to barack obama.
"..., and you can scream "voter fraud"
And again, you seem to have missed your own right wing propaganda.
It's the right screaming "voter fraud".
How can you argue against a liberal position when you dont' even know what the conservative one is?
booley 6 months ago
@DopesandChange Though speaking of...
gaps and screaming voter fraud, that's exactly what the right wingers did when Obama won by a 10 million vote margin.
Also but less so in 2006 when the Democrats gained control of congress without losing a single seat, an act which was unprecedented and republicans have never been able to copy. Not in 1994. Not in 2010
And subsequently used that to excuse trying to restrict people from voting.
booley 6 months ago
@mrjeremiahross Did you know students are being told they can only vote in their home county?
These laws are retarded
dffykvn 6 months ago
@mrjeremiahross,
You're high dude.
A1B1C198 6 months ago
@mrjeremiahross,
You OK there sparky?
DopesandChange 6 months ago
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booley 6 months ago
@mrjeremiahross " I am against poll taxes as much as anyone... but there have been clear cut cases of voter disenfranchisment."
I think you are confusing voter disfranchisement with vote fraud.
The voter fraud claim is that there people (at least 1000s to make it work) that are voting illegally. But the most concerted search only found 86 cases
Disfranchisement is keeping legitimate voters from voting & that is happening, often under the guise of stopping voter fraud.
booley 6 months ago
Put Obama back in power and stop voting repubican
sonofatiger 6 months ago
@sonofatiger,
Sorry Charlie. 2010 and 2012 will be mirror images of each other.
A slaughter so bad that "fraud" cryers like "the young jerks" will need to crawl back into their respective hiding holes.
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
wtf people just get ids than. whats the big deal. Why don't these activist help voters get ID. What well the republicans do than.
thisafrikan 6 months ago
@thisafrikan,
More proper ID = less illegal votes. Think much?
killjoy1001001 6 months ago
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@killjoy1001001 More proper ID = less illegal votes."
Except even if we believe the right's own rhetoric that doesn't work.
The right love sot say how undocumented can get driver's licesnses.
So what is the state ID so many of the GOP insists voters have to vote?
Driver licenses.
Just further proof that stopping voter fraud IS NOT why the right wants this.
booley 6 months ago