Three truck tow - 1,500 hp - one job - www.TruckingFantastic.com

[buskid]

This video is just too cool!!

[TheBjack1]

30% grade

for every 100' of road you travel

You climb 30' in elevation

1000'=300' in elevation

[67tr876]

550HP is bullshit they should have in the trucks 700hp or 800hp not 550 !

[wheedc]

@67tr876 its not the HP that pulls, its the torque. Lots of big rigs only have 300-500 HP, but have in excess of 1000lbs of torque.

[67tr876]

@wheedc o ok did not know that thanks man

[1krump1]

thats fuckn crazy shit bro

[ika6667]

@QuantumQuacks Tanks, i done learnin' good on the interweb today.

[robkal56]

Hmmm. Doesn't seem to be that much weight on the drive axles of the helper trucks. I would have expected something more. Oh well. it worked out.

[hirirsi]

how much torque each?

[Saakian1994]

188.129.253.90:27014 zombi serveri!

[machinegunboy98]

"... and's gonna go against that push-plate and push like hell..." what's the truck gonna do? give birth to a tonka?

[bmays002]

Torque doesn't mean anything except you need less gearing. 500hp = 500hp. Unless you think i can get out my johnson bar and tow a boat by arm power.

[wdmforrent1]

@bmays002 no i would rather have 3000Ftlbs of torque and 300Hp than 1000Ftlbs of torque and 1000Hp

[bmays002]

@wdmforrent1

Yes i agree, so you don't have to rev the engine. But if it was a race and the motor would be rebuilt after 1 trip up the hill then the 1000hp motor would be 3 times faster then the 300hp motor (if you could somehow keep it from overheating).

[wdmforrent1]

@bmays002 no the 1000 hp eng couldn't move it off the start HP is a direct relation of RPM and torque if rpm stays the same and torque goes up so does HP

[SolomonJonesIsBack]

ha not rly a big deal my jimmy could handle that all bye it's self just put er in 4wd and give it lotsa of gas n i could tow that up that hill just fine. dont get why they waist all that money on those trucks when u could call me n id get er done in a bout 20 mins maybe an our tops n no i am not exgagerating befour all u internet wise guys tell me im wrong i know wat my truck can do and its' more then all those big rigs put together combined.

[raisingmaggie]

@SolomonJonesIsBack sorry my friend but your comment does make you sound like a bit of twassock



[jeffweeks08]

i guess there is no power lines there.

[scnwpa]

The companies that do this on the highway have several tons of ballast on each truck, put the extra trucks in back, and run different rear end gears so that no two trucks have to shift at the same time. That way no single truck is doing all the work.

[002vet]

good job gettin it done.

[fattkattz55]

chuck noris can pull your yarder and those trucks at the same time.

[KeepTurningLeft]

@fattkattz55 Chuck Norris would not know what a yarder was

[alper5005]

How come there's no black diesel smoke? All diesel given enough load gives out black smoke.

[o56kid]

@alper5005 the motors arent turned up at all..

[racedemon89]

be like a duck, cool on the surface and peddle like the hell beneith

[MrEazyeaze]

big load for only a tandem axle trailer

[stillahillbilly66]

240,000lbs on a 30 percent grade, 1500 horsepower, now thats truckin my friend!!! Some goofy comments unless you do this everyday leave it to the pros, This is the safest and most cost effective way to move machinery threw the woods. Great vidio Thanks for posting and Lord Bless.

[w00tFillip]

You can borrow my toyota corolla, that should make it.

[tudorino66]

@w00tFillip MY SAMURAI CAN PULL UR TOYOTA PLUS 4 TRUCKS !!! LOL :)))

[ToyotaTrucksR4Girls]

Nice trucks.

Check out our log truck:)

[Silvermustang99]

how did they get it back down?

[QUIX4U]

Or.. do it the old slow hard way ... dissameble girtie and pack the bits up via donkey's... 

[QUIX4U]

Push-me Pull-me (same as railroad style - with extra loco's & pusher "assists")

Good work .. but.. maybe a short FIXED_BAR tow bar between front puller assist and front of low_bed cab .. would allow for better traction control & tighter cornering abilities ... or - simply UNLOAD the "self_laying" tracks machine and drive that mother slowly UP.. & do the entire trip on it's own

[2104power]

男らしいぜ

[popeto17]

woot 16 wheeler trailer dont see many of those out side of alberta

[TheRob916]

cool shyt fellas,,,right on

[Zpeed]

what if they just unload and then drive the "machine" thingy up the hills?

[lockmachin]

It would take to long to drive it up there and might even tip over on the steep grades

[jamesrichardson63]

"thingy"....u must be a girl?? it would use probably 5 times for fuel.

[DonHoroNormaali]

Becouse they guys are american's.

[squeege421]

I would guess coming back down isn't much easier.

[G3arJammer]

Ahh. Nobody appreciates us truckers :(

[dylanwinter1]

@G3arJammer try the website

[G3arJammer]

@dylanwinter1 I like it.

[dylanwinter1]

@G3arJammer well if you can think of anywhere to spread the word.... that would be great

Dylan

[G3arJammer]

@dylanwinter1 prepare for goonrush.

[dylanwinter1]

@G3arJammer I have not got the foggiest idea what you mean

[1417firefighter]

@G3arJammer i appreciate truckers. u guys are out there working your ass's off to keep us alive. without you guys are food wouldn't get where it needs to be, or stuff like that. and you guys just wanna get back home to your family's after traveling god any knows how far. keep up the good work! and stay safe out there, ive seen some pretty nasty t/t accidents. :D

[ika6667]

@G3arJammer That's because your the scum bags of the road, get the fuck off my ass during snowstorms fucking truck driving fags.

[G3arJammer]

@ika6667 LOOL.. stay out of the center lane then fuck face.

[RReaper100]

@G3arJammer want a hanky ?

[chungsta2046]

@G3arJammer i work in corporate america and i love watching jobs like this. this is definitely more exciting

[MMMNUMNUMS]

Is that a giant pencil?

[brewzur]

now theres a Hayes ;)

[youdontseeido]

thats a negative due to the parallel bars that iot uses as tracks it will put little lines in the road. it may seem like nothing but it creats erosion and causes liver shakers that are rough as hell. the bumps will end up like the warning strips on the side of highways

[bulletman100]

the egyptians solved this easily by putting something in front then moving it back to the front to keep it under the load all the time. a flat steel plate? or is that harder than using trucks maybe?

[bulletman100]

cant they just drive the crane up the road???

[UniqueFC3S]

i was just thinking that, i guess if worst came to worst they could

[gokory]

@bulletman100 think about it...120 tonnes on up-to 30% grades? track machines are quite slow especially at that size...

[cerwinvegafan]

and alot of people underestimate grades 30% doesnt sound like much but it's pretty god damn steep

[gokory]

yeah no kiddin

[zukaj1]

Trucks

[Fischer0Dude]

It is true, but my 85 Mack is still my Favorite tuck. Runs like a top, hauls wood (NW Ontario ) like a champ. Plus I got it second hand for $1000 versus 100k for a new one. She looks good too, nice Bright Red with White Stripes.

[lordfizi]

So how do they get them all back down?

[skarsemprod]

redneck trucks in america...........

you guys over there should look into european trucks and trailers!

America is like 20 years behind!!!

[Vralik]

You said it right there, Europe is so far ahead in trucks its not funny

[tellsitasitis]

Canada... and if you still had timber the size of Canada your european stuff would break

[MrSmith19651]

@skarsemprod europian trucks are ugly for one and it wouol still take atleast2 to do this jpull because of the grade and weight of the machine

[QUIX4U]

@MrSmith19651 Or.. One could simply use an ultra LOW_GEARED_FERGIE (a ferguson TEA 15kp tractor) ... as torque is the ability to convert POWER -into PULLING FORCE ... and is not dictated simply by a motor's HP ... but by the final ratio of actual GEARING

[TheExcavatormaster]

just googled the hayes 7280c that they are carrying and its maximum weight is 72 tonnes, bit less then 150 tonnes stated and no amount of guarding is going to add 78 tonnes to it

[Calvin2hip92]

That thing is big!

[mattismyname1]

ah why not use a truck with more hp? might still need two but , depends on what yer using

[unluckykid256932]

More axles = more traction probably.

[mattismyname1]

good point :)

[dylanwinter1]

@mattismyname1 the other reason is they have lotsd of 500 hp trucks around - they can take them off the logg hauling , get them to do this job then go back to hauling logs - saves money I guess - thanks for your interest - brilliant drivers these guys

[over30kings]

Insane!

[gu1500index]

@over30kings

truth

[SSSDiaz7]

Youd think pushing a 120 ton crane like that up a 30% gradient is tuff, just imagine stopping it.

[MrTubetraveller]

150-ok

[MrTubetraveller]

Whaz the crane weight?

[mic38071]

We use to just push with a CAT not as fast but a lot less room for things to go wrong, I think.

[JayJay9774333174]

isnt it better to jus drive that crane.?

[bykashka75]

you are so funny

[Lastman0nEarth]

Great idea Jay. Now you go drive a hundred-plus ton crane up the side of a mountain and see just how far you get in the first week or so.

[Planesimulation]

This is the only way!

^..^

[robertkurt2]

Wouldn't a helicopter sky crane make more sense.

[Planesimulation]

@robertkurt2 with that kit? come on!

[robertkurt2]

@Planesimulation

I'm sure the Sikorsky Skycrane could handle it.

[chena3]

darn hippies

[paintballforever24]

have fun getting that thing DOWN the hill...............

[vaughnman77]

that is so cool

[partyman1980]

150 tonne load on 4 axels.... NICE

[bonzoAU]

LOL u PEDDO

[1DanielChristensen]

Al Kooper played the French Horn on You Can't Always Get What You Want by the Rolling Stones.

[acidxtasy999]

is that the same Al Kooper who worked and produced stuff for Lynyrd Skynyrd? back in the 70s

[EnT271]

why do you say three 500hp truck, its the torque that matter here

[SkooledMedic]

which means those trucks are probably around 8-900 or more ft-lbs of torque apiece

[garamanth]

If they use Cat engines with about 550 hp I'm guessing they're C15 or C16's, in which case you're looking at more like 1500 - 2000 lb-ft per engine.

[AlaricAchos]

@EnT271 because most people don't know what torque is

[QUIX4U]

@AlaricAchos Actually - torque is ONLY a relative term ... and is irrespective of actual HP capacity.. such that a pushcycle - could even be employed for hauling Ur flatdeck .. BUT ... and this is where TORQUE realy comes to play .. if one used a human powered push cycle .. the gearing would be so massive .. as to have an effective "road speed ... of about 1mm A YEAR... but the torque would be phenominal ... and possibly .. U could drag all 3 trucks - brakes hard on .. with the correct gearings

[QUIX4U]

But -then... One could also go the direct route.. STRAIGHT UP.. (and to hell with the road) ... EZ .. just sling DOWN a 10,000 lb towline and hitch the crawler direct to that line .. such that the crawler simply drives STRAIGHT UP the hill - with the TOW_DRAGL:INE giving additional uphill TOWLINE support

[cobrajet08]

@EnT271 Its true, Horsepower is speed, Torque is power

[wdmforrent1]

@cobrajet08 horsepower is based on RPM and torque not speed

[cobrajet08]

@wdmforrent1 I understand what horsepower is, what i meant is that more torque is more pulling power, more horsepower is more speed.

[wdmforrent1]

@cobrajet08 still not getting it ( Torque X RPM ) / 5252 = HP the only way to go faster up the hill would to have higher gears and the torque to back it up

a 500HP Lamborghini with a power ban at 6000RPM has 437Ftlbs of torque

a 500HP Hayes with a power ban of 1800RPM has 1458Ftlbs of torque

[bonzoAU]

so this a push pull method i would have thought they would have used steel poles as opposed to steel cable.

ive seen poles used here in Australia

[stprimeflyer]

poles is the safe way, here in Canada we like the retarded dangerous wreckless way... a good old way too small steel cable that will snap at the wrong moment

[siraff2]

So if just one tried what would the problem be? Would it overheat or just not have enough torque and gears to pull it at all?

Interesting vid.

[n238900]

It's a traction issue. If one is trying to pull up a steep hill the tires would just spin part way up the hill and then you risk sliding backwards down.

[siraff2]

Ahh I got ya. Thanks for that.

[QUIX4U]

@n238900 Oooh - so? lets take the mickie outa that statement too ... OK .. so? U want tyres - a massive number .. OK - say 1,000 daytona v8 racing cars .. there u'll have 4,000 wheels, and HEAPS of HP .. plus HUGE amounts of torque .. AND U'll still have a 4kn lot of spinning wheeels - AND STILL - -- - NO FORWARDS MOTION.

[heatherrose2006]

I would not necessarily over heat but on grades

that steep one truck pulling that kind of weight

does not have enough torque in the lowest gear.

[siraff2]

Its mad to think about things like that. To me these kind of trucks seem pretty much unstoppable. To think that the weight and grade need 3 of them is just amazing.

[tellsitasitis]

The truck pulling the lowbed...as you incline the load pulls back pulling weight off the driver wheels... thus the two helpers

[TheGeek86]

yeah im kind curious to find out how much torque they have lol

[mageac]

1200+

[BrundukasLT]

woot 1500hp ;)

[roydied15]

haha, my firebird had more horsepower when it had its old engine.

[smithsil]

But nowhere near the torque of these trucks...

[freakyboie19699]

dude you are full of shit

[91rxl650]

for doin this you dont need loads of hp you need loads of torque. Therefore, DIESELS are the only option for this and they get better mileage for pulling these heavy loads.

[roydied15]

i know. i was just stating a fact that i have more HORSEPOWER. deisels make SHITLOADS of torque. they are awesome. i dont really care much for trucks tho. i love my cars!!

[tenuke]

But it is the torque that actually makes the car move :I

[VancouverCanucksRock]

You mean 2 truck tow & 1 truck push

[dylanwinter1]

Now, now - we are not at home to Mr Pedantic

[RGVCripted]

A solid bar would give no leeway in corners or over bumps and would try and throw the truck off as it acts as a direct force. If the cable snaps then you've always got your truck.

[hottapper]

The machine would go up faster by itself,done it...struth gov.

[klaytoon16]

damn that thing is massive

[timmytoe32]

thats what she said

[klaytoon16]

hahaha thats a good one. props for that one

[peniez800]

id rob all you truckers fast and the furious styles with 3 civics and a wierd looking spike gun puller device. HA my wood

[hiluxmatt]

why don't they use a stiff bar between the front two instead of a chain or wire rope that goes slack

[EsvEscalade]

they know what they are doin :D

[hughes7520]

I'd dont know but i'd trust that those guys know what they're doing because that's some pretty difficult technical driving they're doing. I have my HGV 1&2 and even i wouldn't want to attemp any of that kind of stuff

[bradlee101]

yeah somthing like a jimmy bar like you used to get for atv's

[oldstar1952]

Did anyone notice that it's not chained down on the trailer??

[bigstudtommy93]

its 150tons...its not going anywhere lol

[Sammyofish]

Those are typically chained in the middle

[oldstar1952]

How would you chain the front, it is tight against the gooseneck. Also look closely at the shot from the rear. There are not any chains under there. Besides there isn't anywhere to tie to in the middle of the trailer. By the way that does not wiegh anywhere near 150 tons. Probably closer to 80. I'm doing some research on that one.

[oldstar1952]

I called a dealer about the wieght of this machine. We were both wrong, it wieghs 108 tons. But I was closer. LOL.

[dylanwinter1]

and how much does the lowbed weigh do you think?

[oldstar1952]

Not sure, truck and trailer empty maybe 50,000#.

[oldstar1952]

Buddy you don't have a clue about this.

[honorkill35]

well idrove otr for 9 years and my pete with extended sleeper and my 53 foot reefer empty were 32000

[oldstar1952]

honorkill35, What do you think this outfit lite-wieghs ? A good friend of mine had a 87 Pete, 66" bunk 425 Cat and had a 265 in wheelbase. He pulled a 48' reefer. I know for sure he lite-wieghed 35,800 with full tanks. I'm not saying your are wrong about your lite-weight, I'm saying it was really lite for what you had. That other guy saying that truck and tailer only wiegh about 24,000 doesn't have a clue. The truck alone wiehgs more than 30,000.

[jusportel]

@oldstar1952 Each of those trucks is over 40 tons, with the trailers another 12 tons each. The yarder is about 80 tons, and with the lowbed, total weight of the load would be about 120 tons.

[starski8888]

Actually, the operating weight of this machine is 72575kg or 72.5 Tonnes or 71.35 Tons (long) ....so you're all wrong!

[oldstar1952]

starski8888, If it really wieghs 72575 kgs, that comes to 159,955 lbs. That is 45 pounds short of 80 tons, US tons that is. And not to blow my own horn, In my first comment about the wieght of the machine I said it wieghed about 80 tons. Not to bad for an old trucker from Pa.

[starski8888]

Sorry, I was referring to imperial long tons which most other countries use when referencing heavy equipment or naval ships. America is the only country that uses (short) tons.

[honorkill35]

they dont use metric tons cause i thought that was what most others used

[n8ivesoulja187]

A habit we have here is at rebuild time, if it's bent, make it out of heavier material, add more guarding, boom could even be extended, bigger fuel tanks, could be a lot heavier than the original machine. weight is not an issue with this stuff, makes it more stable when working.

[fj40man2]

You wouldn't want a machine like that tied down if you go off the road

[kcin125]

Talk about temawork!

[caldakid]

too bad hayes went bankrupt

[arman1008]

thats a good idea!

[nikthepilot]

WHy THe arent the big Crane yust driving?!

[FragaGeddon]

Because time is money in any business.

And since the crane would move so slow, and might not have enough power to pull itself up the incline.

[pepene93]

ok, so they managed to get it up the mountain...now how are they gonna get it back down???

[adz4500]

VERY quickly

[pepene93]

you mean TOO quickly =P

[hi5lo2]

Very, VERY carefuly

[NME1994]

Drive one truck down the mountain...

[pepene93]

do you really think that would work?

[ig0tsh0t]

Well, if you had one go down the other side it could be like a counterweight for pulling this one up. Which would never work, but would be funny as hell to watch a truck hurtling down a mountain.

[Katmandoo57]

can they 1000 HP in 1 truck?

[62guitarguy]

Wow!!!! I certainly missed my calling! I'd love to be doing that kind of work up there.

[SlatanicG0D]

150 TONS?i THINK THEM THERE LOGGERS BEEN IN THE WOODS A WHE BIT TO LONG THERE!

[dylanwinter1]

read some of the other postings on the next pages. I think you will find that the 150 tonne figure is accurate - and yes some loggers probably do spend too long in the woods. Watch the DVD to find out more

Dylan

[SlatanicG0D]

Sorry Dylan but I can't see that weighing even 60 tons! I have also been around skidders dozers payloader etc..Actually I make some of the biggest parts for some of the biggest dumptrucks-Dozers and Frontend loaders in the world and I can't see it being that heavy(120 t)..So if it is so be it! I wouldn't want to drive it down the mountain on the truck!

[cumminsispower]

well it's basically a smaller version of a dragline if you know what that is... they weigh upwards of 200t... so if you do the math.

[dylanwinter1]

what a spendidly civilised exchange of views here - no insults, no rude words, good job

[SlatanicG0D]

After watching the video and spotting the trailer is more then a 50 ton trailer my mind may changed a little bit!That was the major fact I had with the load weight!

[kirtliedahl]

It's GVW: Gross Vehicle Weight. At least I presume it is... I've pulled 900 series Case payloaders, and they weighed 50-60k without the bucket.

[SlatanicG0D]

150tons?

[jdawgsworld]

..."and pushes like hell"...great videos

[eurodaily]

150t on five axles er going by other videos i dont think so thats 30t a line

[bigDT30me]

pretty rugged lowbed to haul that heavy crane w/ only 2 axles and to be pushed on at the same time