she could've won the 2011 classic by 20 lengths because 1 second=5 lengths and drosslymier won in a time of 2:04 and she won in 2:00 and she probably would've won the past 20 or so derbys
Comparing horses times almost 40 yrs different is worthless. The weather has alot to do with it and maintaining the track as well. Im sure we have all seen speed favoring or dead tracks on a day at the races. Also comparing a 3 yr old boy versus a 6 yr old girl is mute as well. Ever seen how many times Mike Smith geared down Zenyatta towards the wire? She could have run faster if he wanted her to. She was so good her stablemate won the Female Classic when she won in 2009.
Lets watch 2010 Breeders cup I must admit Z shouldnt have one hell I watched & Im sure 1 metre (in oz terms), she would have got there but the joc,k took the Blame, mmmm dont anyone knock Black Caviar, Zenyatta excellent horse, but never left the shores of the US. Why is everyone on BC ,Dont u worry she will clean up where ever she goes & if she doesnt well I will have to eat my words. Wont I.
What I find intriguing is, those who griped about Zen winning the HOY in 2010 based on her CAREER conveniently overlooked that Goldikova was a finalist based on her CAREER. Not just 2010. Our own turf horses are usually discarded as HOY candidates. How is it that a horse is in the mix for such an honor runs only one time? For those whose noses are out of joint because Zen won, well, I won't say I'm sorry. Try finding another like her. You won't,.
The performance that Zenyatta laid down in the 2010 Classic gets overlooked, because so many want to discredit her every way possible.
Look who she left in her wake. Those highly touted young studs got their doors blown off . She had never been further back than 14 lengths in any of her races. She was 20+ lengths back in the 2010 and almost pulled it off. I could not be more proud of her. LOL. Many will miss her. She is one of a kind. .
well at least she was never doped up like so many of the so called fkn greats am sick of hearin that shit oats hay and away she go no roids or pain killer anti inflamitory shit thats not even needed
Zenyatta was not at the top of her game in the 2010 Breeder's Cup. Based on final times, speed ratings, and competition, she peaked towards the end of her 2008 season. She routinely put up stellar performances and had two back-to-back 108 BSF's in the Clement Hirsch and Lady's Secret. In the Hirsch she set a track record by going 8.5F in 1:41:48, which is a record that has stood for 4 complete seasons of racing over the well-traveled 8.5F distance at Del Mar.
By way of comparison, Zenyatta's 2010 Hirsch was 3.51 seconds slower! She defeated Rinterval (a grade 3 caliber horse) by a neck. Her works were uninspiring and her final times were slower. Mike Smith described her as lackadaisical after her trip to Oaklawn. She showed signs of improvement when defeating the talented filly, Switch, but even that was a close call. It's amazing that the aging, out-of-form 6.6 year old mare was less than a head from winning back-to-back BC Classics & 20 wins
i hate horse racing because of the business---i find its pratically animal abuse. not the race, but the aftermath if a horse isnt "good" enough for the track...but anyways, i have to admit zenyatta's victory was amazing. i wish i had a horse like her :)
@ashleycolemobilefone you are a dumbass you cant say she was a horse and didnt get poned pwned learn how to spell dumbass yeah she might not of been the best over but you are ignorant saying she was a bad horse she is almost seven and beat all the other boys one horse ever beat her in 20 starts and by how much is that really powned? stupid people going against her just jealous probably just because you lost alot of money betting against her pussy ass make your comments elsewhere
@ashleycolemobilefone you are a dumbass you cant say she was a horse and didnt get poned pwned learn how to spell dumbass yeah she might not of been the best over but you are ignorant saying she was a bad horse she is almost seven and beat all the other boys one horse ever beat her in 20 starts and by how much is that really powned? stupid people going against her just jealous probably just because you lost alot of money betting against her pussy ass make your comments elsewhere
I'd like to point out that one of Zenyatta's so called "greatest threats" finished..LAST. Quality Road. Blame barely beat her. Secretariat is in his own class. But as far as those underneath him? Zenyatta rightly deserves a place - contrary to what all her doubters said before the 2010 BC Classic. (she can't run on dirt! She can't handle quality fields! She's far outclassed!) She proved her worth and I'm proud of her for that.
@Dingerz Totally agree with you. Secretariat was like a machine, an amazing once in a lifetime horse. After that? All bets are off. IMO Zenyatta could be #2, her build, stride, and heart are perfection. I don't think she's ever been tested. I don't consider her last race a loss, one more stride and a tad more time would have done it, she'd have passed Blame like he was "standing like a house on the side of the road" as Ernie Harwell would say :)
@MC5Rule where has this bullshit story, "one more stride" came form???
watch the fuckin race, she has nothing left and is held at the line. A few strides after the line Blame is a length and a half in front so stop talking shite
it dosent count as loss my arse
she got beat by the better horse on the day, end of fucking story
number 2 to secretariat??? thats the biggest joke ive heard in a while
@Dingerz Why you taking her achievement away like that; and what makes you think that secretariat is in his own class, lost to a gelding...or better yet several unknown horses, as far as i know secretariat is just another triple crown winner, nothing more, secretariat can be beaten period.
By way of comparison, Zenyatta's 2010 Hirsch was 3.51 seconds slower! She defeated Rinterval (a grade 3 caliber horse) by a neck. Her works were uninspiring and her final times were slower. Mike Smith described her as lackadaisical after her trip to Oaklawn. She showed signs of improvement when defeating the talented filly, Switch, but even that was a close call. It's amazing that the aging, out-of-form 6.6 year old mare was less than a head from winning back-to-back BC Classics & 20 wins
The winning time was 2:02 and 1/5 for 10 furlongs a few days ago in the 2010 Breeder's Cup Classic. Even if Zenyatta had won by a head (instead of losing by a head), considering that 1/5 of a second equates to a length, that would put Zenyatta FOURTEEN LENGTHS behind Secretariat, the Greatest Horse Ever, who ran it in 1:59 2/5 in the 1973 Derby, on the same track, even while giving up ground on the turn to circle the field.
@FloridaVermont Have you ever heard of track variant? 1:59 at Churchill is different than 1:59 at Santa Anita or Arlington or Belmont or wherever. A lot more goes into the final time than how fast the winner ran. 1) Depth of the track 2) Condition of the track (sloppy fast wet fast etc). 3) Pace. You can't run a fast time without a solid pace. Look at Monarchos' Derby. Great final time, total pace meltdown.
@FloridaVermont Barely anyone can live up to Secretariat but he had his MULTIPLE losses too and at slower times. I don't get where people get off needing to lessen Zenyatta's achievements by waving Secretariat's times in her face. She won the BC Classic the year before 2:00.62. She would have beat Blame in one more stride and so thus, she was not "demolished" by the quality field as some assumed. She IS quality, and one of the best we've had - despite all of Secretariat's times.
@Dingerz You are missing the point. I agree that Zenyatta is a great horse, but there are people trying to say she is now the BEST EVER. Not even close.
@FloridaVermont Alright, that I understand. I don't think the world will ever agree who is the best ever though.. There are great, huge arguments to this day over that one. However, Zenyatta to me, does belong among those in the top spots. THE best? Maybe not, but one of the best? Yes.
@FloridaVermont@Dingerz You also have to remember in the record setting belmont race, he wasn't last. He was the front runner. A horse is the back of the pack has A LOT more running to do to make a record setting pace, it really just doesn't happen. Even we Secretariat ran at the back he didn't always make a record. At the same time you really can't compare the two because Secretariat has an advantage to all races horses.
@FloridaVermont I respectfully ask you to try to understand that many of Z's fans are too young to remember Sec. to them she is the best. She is what got them into the sport. Some of the fans were just caught up in the excitement..they love her and maybe speaking in the moment..it is subjective...all you're doing is upsetting yourself taking it to heart. When you attack them it just makes them feel you don't respect their horse so they refuse to resect yours..at least to you.
@FloridaVermont You seem to be operating under the flawed premise that Churchill Down's race course has the same track variant from year to year. The intrinsic speed of any race course changes based on factors such as the weather, track maintenance, surface composition, moisture, wind direction, etc. If you study speed figs and look at pars you would note that the best time achieved at 10F (at Churchill) in the last three years was 2:01 4/5ths, which is comparable to the 2010 BC Classic.
@FloridaVermont I wouldn't suggest that Zenyatta had the same ability as Secretariat. Why should we expect female horse to be as able as their male counterparts? It is truly a remarkable filly that can beat her male counterparts at the highest levels of the game. Nevertheless, it's a mistake to try and compare horses across different generations. For one thing, today's American thoroughbred tends to be speedy and precocious, but lacks the stamina of yesteryear's competitors.
@FloridaVermont Given today's breeding practices and racing philosophies, it's almost laughable that we've retained the 10F, 9.5F, and 12F distances for the Triple Crown. We've obliterated true classic and distance racing. It seems the upper threshold for most G1 routes is 9F's. There are a few 10F races, but they are the exception to the rule. I guess what I'm saying is that historical context is important. Zenyatta's performances are exceptional in the context of today's racing.
@westinniles Your immature for sure another thing i'm not even Mexican three you make me laugh how old are you 12 like really grow up you immature nigga! You belong in a toilet with your shit stains!
@ashleycolemobilefone It was for me. I was there. :)....and you? how many American races or horses have you ever seen in person? You know people just talk to you because it's sooo easy to push your buttons. Good for a laugh every time. I suggest you get off the computer and go to school...get a life...really you came back here 3 weeks later just to e-mail lil ole me...epic lolo
I usually like national hunt horses, but when you see one as good as her, you've just got to take your hat off to her. Could have picked them off at anytime. No excuses for the lads beaten by a much better horse (filly/mare)
Understand when something or someone becomes popular, the haters for it increases too because the following gets bigger. How could there be haters on someone obscure? Less known, less hating because not alot of a firm opinion is formulated yet. Celebs can be popular and unpopular at the same time. Zen is that way. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. But her popularity is already "critic-proof." She will still be loved years after, win or lose in the BCC. Not as overrated as RayFell AlexanDuh!
People can troll and act obnoxious which is equivalent to hecklers in the stand. At the end of the day, nobody will really remember their asinine opinions. Shrug it off. On Nov 6th, Zenyatta is the biggest star of the show. Take her out, and we lose viewers and almost half the BC attendance. Love her or hate her, people will come in droves to watch her. She is Must-See TV. Like iPhone. People hate Apple, but still lust for it.
@sweetepnoy I can assure u m8, ive been proved 100% right and i pity a soul who lusts after an iphone or any technology for that matter
it just shows how mind numbed you americans really are that u would lust after a phone and turn a blind eye to the marines commiting genoicide in Iraq in the name of the US
@ashleycolemobilefone@ashleycolemobilefone wow ashley, you're still on this page yapping? you must really love this horse and this race, this is hysterical, you're still here! LMAO!!!!!
by the way, how did your Backdown do? oh that's right he lost.
i've watched this race 20 times. Still have no idea how she rallied to win this. Looked dead at the top of the stretch. Don't like her chances to repeat on conventional dirt at Churchill though
@ashleycolemobilefone uh, what was the name of that race the first week of november at santa anita last year? I forget. was that a restricted race? an allowance race? ungraded stakes? my memory isn't what it used to be, what was the name of that darned race?
@ashleycolemobilefone really if you dont like the horse, why do you spend all your time yelling at people who do? why are you even on this video? just go watch sea of stars or find something better to do. maybe learn to read, play a sport, take up black ops and get your anger out on those people. leave the ones who enjoy the fantastic story this race horse has created alone.
@ashleycolemobilefone yeah but that's the biggest. it doesn't really matter what races you run in during the year if you win that race. it's the richest race, attracting the best horses from all over the world. (except for the people who manage sea the stars. you wanna talk about a horse that ducks, there you are.) if you only win one, that's the one to win. and didn't she travel to oaklawn to face that other female? who didn't show up that race?
@jpdiprince Sea The Stars ducked LMAO keep clutching at straws pal, your ignorance does not allow you to think that maybe not everyone is interested in the breeders cup
@ashleycolemobilefone LMAO!!!!! yeah you're right who would be interested in a $3 million purse to the winner HAHAHAHAHA you're a maroon. if you had a good shot to win $3 million, you wouldn't take it? HAHAHAHA what a maroon.
@jpdiprince If had already won 3 times that through the season and stood to make 20 times that on stud fees I wouldn't be interested in trecking half way round the world would you?
@ashleycolemobilefone Its ONLY a 5 million dollar race.You're Right..not everyone is interrested in a 5 million dollar race...especially if they KNOW they have a horse that can win it so easily.
@205seeme Sea The Stars would have won the BC Classic as easily as Backdown is going to win race 5 at Belmont tonight......on this the day of my daughters wedding, you come to me with this, on this very night, the night that Backdown was unleashed upon mere mortals, welll I ask you, seeme, because I can see you.
@ashleycolemobilefone shut u fat ass miserable bitch lol at sea the stars...way overrated horse beat nobody..zarkava woulda beat him by 5 or more anytime anywhere anyday
@ashleycolemobilefone Ducking what?? She won the breeders cup. By the way the breeders cup is a grade 1 race. On Breeders Cup day... The day. YOU CANNOT SMACK THIS FILLY. Unless you are an IDIOT!
@vmenke That's a really stupid comparison. Sorry, but there's no possible to way to compare the two. Not that one is better than the other, but they are so different, and ran in two different centuries.
the great sea the stars the 2009 epsom derby winner, all would agree was a far superior derby winner to new approach, would have won this race with ease if he had gone over for it, just like ravens pass did to the other american superstar curlin
a very good performance but not an all time great, when you consider twice over was only 2 lenghs back in 3rd, who has hardly been a top class horse in europe, new approch the 2008 epsom derby winner beat him by 6 lenghs over the same distance at newmarket
I have watched this replay more times than I can remember, and every time I see it I am absolutely awestruck by the unbelievable grit and determination this mare displays every time she goes postward. And when you hear John Shirreffs talk about her and watch the expression of Mike Smith coming back to the winner's circle, you realise the love and respect they have for her. So no HOY award - whatever - no one can dispute that she IS a horse for the ages.
Guys...learn to have an appreciation for both these mares. The best part of this is you can just sit back and enjoy. This showdown may be the most anticipated since Affirmed and Seattle Slew in 78.
I've seen this video at least 10 times-it's in my favorites-and it gives me chills every time!! I love Rachel too,can't wait for April 9th,may the best girl win,as long as everyone comes back to the barn safely!!!!
over that trip i have never seen any horse with her closing kick i am from the uk twice over ran a great race but zen won going away she is much too big and strong for rachel and in a true run race will win easily
A horse psychic said Rachel Alexandra's reaction was a posture that indicated she thought Zenyatta was an attention whore. Zenyatta heard about this and seemed to call Rachel a slut. Rachel then gestured as if Zenyatta looked fat. So it's on now for sure!
@mik655 RA fans are sore winners so much more than Z fans are sore losers and that is sad. Win with grace...
And Z is immortal for something RA will never, EVER, have- an undefeated streak. Even IF she loses this year, 14 for 14 is better than RA will ever do.
2009 super filly RACHEL ALEXANDRA the great, horse of the year!!!!!! Zen, lost in a land slide, kinda like how socal now has a lot of mudslides, lmao
No more ducking and hiding in socal, but wat if it rains? will zens connections continue to hide? lol probably, either way Zen' gets exposed and I will delite!!!!
Zenyatta is just fabulous, Sea the Stars equally.. Put them together and what happens..? Oh lordy.
Zen picked this lot up and dusted them off " if she wins this she'll be a superhorse ", went the commentary at the BC; "..he'll have to be a superstar to win from there " went the commentary at the Arc. Both won in scintillating fashion. Sea the Stars afterburner lit at the 2 pole and he was gone. Watch both races, throw out the books and get a feel, as another guy here said. It's some call.
Sea The Stars is an all time great who did things no horse has ever done. Zenyatta wasn't challenged enough by her trainers to receive as high a rating. This is a shame because she had more untapped ability to show in my opinion, especially over more ground.
It's not how many lengths Zenyatta beat Twice Over, or RVW for that matter. The form is not the race. That's why all those formulas like Timeform and Beyers underrate Zenyatta. It may look "logical" on paper, but watch the race and believe what you are seeing. Look at how fast Zenyatta goes by Twice Over, look at the length of her stride when she gets in the clear. The American "classic" distance is 10f, in Europe it's the metric equivalent of 12f. Z would crush STS or any Euro at 10-12f.
Thats why she is officially rated several pounds below STS?. The horse race expers must be wrong then. Obviously, you know a lot more than them. STS won real races on different courses and countries.
Yes, obviously I do know more than many of the "experts" or at least have more accurate and relevant information about Zenyatta. I bet on Z to win the BCC. Almost all the so-called "horse race experts" who relied on their paper formulas, gave Z no chance to win. STS is a great horse and it's a great shame that his greedy owner retired him after only a few wins. It's JMO but I believe the 5yo mare Zenyatta would beat the 3yo colt STS at this point in their careers, at 10-12f.
An important unknown variable in a hypothetical race between STS and Zenyatta is how Zenyatta would handle turf and how STS would run over dirt or pro-ride synthetic. I would have really liked to see them race each other at least once on any surface.
sea the stars best trip was 10f....honest to fuck do use cunts even look into our horses? seriously, syren asked why did sts not run over 12 on turf but he won the derby and the arc both over 12. his best performance was over 10f in the eclipse at sandown, with the BC Turf winner well beat in 3rd and twice over was beat 18 lengths. rip ran a blinder to get to sts arse but he was never gettin past in a million years, sts was idling and just quickened again when he needed to. what a horse man
use can stay in fantasy land all day, no bother too me, im a student of horse racing and i try my best to think logically, and ive no agenda against zenyatta, or america for that matter. there are sum sane ppl in the country after all, apparently there just hard to find
@cmcgarth1O You aren't trained in rhetoric of any kind, obviously. Your thinly veiled attack was, well, thinly veiled. You are the pinnacle of douchedom.
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aye very good syren, u went to university...great. hows being smart working out for you? ill try to thicken the veil nxt time i "attack" FY fuckin I you cant be the pinnacle of a made up word
there is nothing to suggest from this race that zen could have beaten sea the stars. if u honestly believe zen is 35 lengths better than rip, then u need help. if u honestly think this can justify saying she could beat sea the stars, u need help. the vacinity of twice over to the winner suggests this is a sub standard group1. she may have gave STS a race......to the two pole.
STS would have destroyed Zenyatta and now ur precious Mare will get exposed when she races the regining HOTY RACHEL ALEXANDRA WOOOOOOO, ON dirt! that overhyped Mare zenyatta ,much like last night will end up a distant 2hd lmao!!! Get ready zen, u r about to be second yet again!!!!
i would love to see just 1...just fucking 1 american horse even attempt to cum here for a group 1. its unheard of. what some ignorant, narrow minded ppl need to take into account is that the best horses in europe are trained for the best races in europe, not america. to have a horse spot on for the arc, after a long season, then to get them half way round the world, still at there peak, to try and win on a new surface for them, is near impossible. at least we try, and we dont do too bad!
@cmcgarth1O We have great, fun races here, why risk the horse's life to go over there? If you folks want to risk your horse's life that's your deal, but if we don't want to that's not something to be penalized for.
rip obviously never ran anywhere near his form because he would be at the very least 3 or 4 in front of twice over, if u look at every single horse who never took drugs, ie everyone of obriens, they dun nothing, not saying it was totally down to that, it was nuffing to do with the trip i can assure you, hes had problems all season and i think he was just over the top, remember aiden obrien and j murtagh have had alot of very good horses, and they both rated rip as one of there best.
everyone says,"Zenyatta didn't beat no quality horses likke Rachel but its not there fault no good horses were around at the time[. there both deserving victors but i give the edge 2 zenyatta for beating all the good horses around. only 1 HORSE would of scared Zenyatta out of the classic!!!!!!!!!! and everone should know who that is.
Zenyatta would have taken on any and all comers. Including Sea The Stars. Judging from this performance, Sea The Stars can thank his lucky ones that he stayed home. Nobody, I mean nobody would have beaten Big Z' on this day. What a monster!!!
I agree with keybender, no horse could beat Zenyatta at 10 furlongs or over. Under that, it would depend on how early Mike could get her to make her move, but why should she have run anything shorter than the classic distances? Unfortunately for Zenyatta fans and fortunately for Rachel fans we will never get the chance to see such races because the pretenders didn't show up for the Classic.
C'est magnifique!!! I was there, & it was probably the best race I've ever seen, period!! I don't think I've ever seen her even break a sweat, & I've followed races her for almost 2 years! Distance is not a problem for her. Too bad she'll never see RA up close & personal.
MIKE U SHOULD OOF WON THIS BY 10 LENGHTS
187mamapimpmafia 1 month ago
MIKE SMITH MAMA PIMP MAFIA WILL LOVE U RIGHT
187mamapimpmafia 1 month ago
Another instance where Zenyatta gallops her fucking opponents into the ground.
DBJKAJ 2 months ago 2
she could've won the 2011 classic by 20 lengths because 1 second=5 lengths and drosslymier won in a time of 2:04 and she won in 2:00 and she probably would've won the past 20 or so derbys
mindthegap2012 2 months ago
whats tsn?
mindthegap2012 2 months ago
Secretariat = Greatest Racehorse ever to live.
Zenyatta = Greatest Female Racehorse ever to live.
morzloks 3 months ago 3
AWESOME CLIP!! ♥
kwgrid 3 months ago
Comparing horses times almost 40 yrs different is worthless. The weather has alot to do with it and maintaining the track as well. Im sure we have all seen speed favoring or dead tracks on a day at the races. Also comparing a 3 yr old boy versus a 6 yr old girl is mute as well. Ever seen how many times Mike Smith geared down Zenyatta towards the wire? She could have run faster if he wanted her to. She was so good her stablemate won the Female Classic when she won in 2009.
Troy2573 4 months ago
Tears of Joy every time !!!!!!!!!!
Ducknbob8 6 months ago
Lets watch 2010 Breeders cup I must admit Z shouldnt have one hell I watched & Im sure 1 metre (in oz terms), she would have got there but the joc,k took the Blame, mmmm dont anyone knock Black Caviar, Zenyatta excellent horse, but never left the shores of the US. Why is everyone on BC ,Dont u worry she will clean up where ever she goes & if she doesnt well I will have to eat my words. Wont I.
taykyl001 6 months ago
Anyone else think it interesting just how huge Zenyatta is compared to the other horses on the field? Just wow.
xxibitsuxx 7 months ago
What I find intriguing is, those who griped about Zen winning the HOY in 2010 based on her CAREER conveniently overlooked that Goldikova was a finalist based on her CAREER. Not just 2010. Our own turf horses are usually discarded as HOY candidates. How is it that a horse is in the mix for such an honor runs only one time? For those whose noses are out of joint because Zen won, well, I won't say I'm sorry. Try finding another like her. You won't,.
Landmnlady 7 months ago
Who else was pissed that she didn't win horse of the year that year. Nothing against Rachel, but that was amazing
wakeboardadict8956 8 months ago
how the hell doesshe come from last to first. i hope she is enjoying her retirement and lives a happy life.
moviesforrandy 8 months ago
Dingerz,
The performance that Zenyatta laid down in the 2010 Classic gets overlooked, because so many want to discredit her every way possible.
Look who she left in her wake. Those highly touted young studs got their doors blown off . She had never been further back than 14 lengths in any of her races. She was 20+ lengths back in the 2010 and almost pulled it off. I could not be more proud of her. LOL. Many will miss her. She is one of a kind. .
Landmnlady 8 months ago
@Landmnlady I could not agree more!
AnimalsRock4Love 7 months ago
well at least she was never doped up like so many of the so called fkn greats am sick of hearin that shit oats hay and away she go no roids or pain killer anti inflamitory shit thats not even needed
footyunit 9 months ago
They are gonna breed Zenyatta to Ron Jeramy next year.
MrFootfree02 10 months ago
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Zenyatta was not at the top of her game in the 2010 Breeder's Cup. Based on final times, speed ratings, and competition, she peaked towards the end of her 2008 season. She routinely put up stellar performances and had two back-to-back 108 BSF's in the Clement Hirsch and Lady's Secret. In the Hirsch she set a track record by going 8.5F in 1:41:48, which is a record that has stood for 4 complete seasons of racing over the well-traveled 8.5F distance at Del Mar.
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By way of comparison, Zenyatta's 2010 Hirsch was 3.51 seconds slower! She defeated Rinterval (a grade 3 caliber horse) by a neck. Her works were uninspiring and her final times were slower. Mike Smith described her as lackadaisical after her trip to Oaklawn. She showed signs of improvement when defeating the talented filly, Switch, but even that was a close call. It's amazing that the aging, out-of-form 6.6 year old mare was less than a head from winning back-to-back BC Classics & 20 wins
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Bigshotism 10 months ago
What an amazing horse!
Polkadotpony8 11 months ago
i hate horse racing because of the business---i find its pratically animal abuse. not the race, but the aftermath if a horse isnt "good" enough for the track...but anyways, i have to admit zenyatta's victory was amazing. i wish i had a horse like her :)
perfectlyEquestrian 11 months ago
Zenyatta is a great horse just like Secretariat ! i more thing is Secretariat part of Zenyatta's famliy !!?!! um...!!?!!
lokotaandme 1 year ago
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This is the fuckin weakest Classic in the history of mankind
it has now been proved that she was not as good as you thought
any good horse is going to look great running against a bunch of shite for 119 races, avoding open races and beating on the same weak fillies.
use fuckin deserved the defeat for your fucking arrogance and ignorance
thank fuck these pregnant woman and teenage girls can leave racing to the fuckin men who know it
zenyatta, like her idiot fans, got pwned to fuck
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone And you, my friend, are a loser. A very ignorant one too.
Dingerz 1 year ago 5
@ashleycolemobilefone you are a dumbass you cant say she was a horse and didnt get poned pwned learn how to spell dumbass yeah she might not of been the best over but you are ignorant saying she was a bad horse she is almost seven and beat all the other boys one horse ever beat her in 20 starts and by how much is that really powned? stupid people going against her just jealous probably just because you lost alot of money betting against her pussy ass make your comments elsewhere
123456kyleuui 1 year ago
@123456kyleuui Blame 7/1 put me way infront with the 2 all time bets ive placed against Zenyatta so......
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
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@ashleycolemobilefone you are a dumbass you cant say she was a horse and didnt get poned pwned learn how to spell dumbass yeah she might not of been the best over but you are ignorant saying she was a bad horse she is almost seven and beat all the other boys one horse ever beat her in 20 starts and by how much is that really powned? stupid people going against her just jealous probably just because you lost alot of money betting against her pussy ass make your comments elsewhere
123456kyleuui 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone Wow, you are one angry person. Swear much? Get some counseling before you end up killing someone for admiring a racehorse.
MC5Rule 1 year ago
I'd like to point out that one of Zenyatta's so called "greatest threats" finished..LAST. Quality Road. Blame barely beat her. Secretariat is in his own class. But as far as those underneath him? Zenyatta rightly deserves a place - contrary to what all her doubters said before the 2010 BC Classic. (she can't run on dirt! She can't handle quality fields! She's far outclassed!) She proved her worth and I'm proud of her for that.
Dingerz 1 year ago 8
@Dingerz Totally agree with you. Secretariat was like a machine, an amazing once in a lifetime horse. After that? All bets are off. IMO Zenyatta could be #2, her build, stride, and heart are perfection. I don't think she's ever been tested. I don't consider her last race a loss, one more stride and a tad more time would have done it, she'd have passed Blame like he was "standing like a house on the side of the road" as Ernie Harwell would say :)
MC5Rule 1 year ago
@MC5Rule where has this bullshit story, "one more stride" came form???
watch the fuckin race, she has nothing left and is held at the line. A few strides after the line Blame is a length and a half in front so stop talking shite
it dosent count as loss my arse
she got beat by the better horse on the day, end of fucking story
number 2 to secretariat??? thats the biggest joke ive heard in a while
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@Dingerz Why you taking her achievement away like that; and what makes you think that secretariat is in his own class, lost to a gelding...or better yet several unknown horses, as far as i know secretariat is just another triple crown winner, nothing more, secretariat can be beaten period.
ALYSHEBANDTHEBID 11 months ago
By way of comparison, Zenyatta's 2010 Hirsch was 3.51 seconds slower! She defeated Rinterval (a grade 3 caliber horse) by a neck. Her works were uninspiring and her final times were slower. Mike Smith described her as lackadaisical after her trip to Oaklawn. She showed signs of improvement when defeating the talented filly, Switch, but even that was a close call. It's amazing that the aging, out-of-form 6.6 year old mare was less than a head from winning back-to-back BC Classics & 20 wins
Bigshotism 10 months ago
@Dingerz
she reminds me of ruffian and do u have the footage of eight bells accident? she was great as well
SuperVancouverBC 9 months ago
@Dingerz
your right and i feel the same way about ruffian
SuperVancouverBC 9 months ago
The winning time was 2:02 and 1/5 for 10 furlongs a few days ago in the 2010 Breeder's Cup Classic. Even if Zenyatta had won by a head (instead of losing by a head), considering that 1/5 of a second equates to a length, that would put Zenyatta FOURTEEN LENGTHS behind Secretariat, the Greatest Horse Ever, who ran it in 1:59 2/5 in the 1973 Derby, on the same track, even while giving up ground on the turn to circle the field.
FloridaVermont 1 year ago
@FloridaVermont Have you ever heard of track variant? 1:59 at Churchill is different than 1:59 at Santa Anita or Arlington or Belmont or wherever. A lot more goes into the final time than how fast the winner ran. 1) Depth of the track 2) Condition of the track (sloppy fast wet fast etc). 3) Pace. You can't run a fast time without a solid pace. Look at Monarchos' Derby. Great final time, total pace meltdown.
johnnyg129 1 year ago
@FloridaVermont Barely anyone can live up to Secretariat but he had his MULTIPLE losses too and at slower times. I don't get where people get off needing to lessen Zenyatta's achievements by waving Secretariat's times in her face. She won the BC Classic the year before 2:00.62. She would have beat Blame in one more stride and so thus, she was not "demolished" by the quality field as some assumed. She IS quality, and one of the best we've had - despite all of Secretariat's times.
Dingerz 1 year ago 4
@Dingerz You are missing the point. I agree that Zenyatta is a great horse, but there are people trying to say she is now the BEST EVER. Not even close.
FloridaVermont 1 year ago
@FloridaVermont Alright, that I understand. I don't think the world will ever agree who is the best ever though.. There are great, huge arguments to this day over that one. However, Zenyatta to me, does belong among those in the top spots. THE best? Maybe not, but one of the best? Yes.
Dingerz 1 year ago 5
@FloridaVermont @Dingerz You also have to remember in the record setting belmont race, he wasn't last. He was the front runner. A horse is the back of the pack has A LOT more running to do to make a record setting pace, it really just doesn't happen. Even we Secretariat ran at the back he didn't always make a record. At the same time you really can't compare the two because Secretariat has an advantage to all races horses.
TorqueBrooklyn 11 months ago
@Dingerz i have been in racing 35 years and a trainer for 20 years Zenyatta is the greatest female horse i ever saw and that included ruffian
renduke 3 months ago
@FloridaVermont I respectfully ask you to try to understand that many of Z's fans are too young to remember Sec. to them she is the best. She is what got them into the sport. Some of the fans were just caught up in the excitement..they love her and maybe speaking in the moment..it is subjective...all you're doing is upsetting yourself taking it to heart. When you attack them it just makes them feel you don't respect their horse so they refuse to resect yours..at least to you.
AnimalsRock4Love 1 year ago
@FloridaVermont You seem to be operating under the flawed premise that Churchill Down's race course has the same track variant from year to year. The intrinsic speed of any race course changes based on factors such as the weather, track maintenance, surface composition, moisture, wind direction, etc. If you study speed figs and look at pars you would note that the best time achieved at 10F (at Churchill) in the last three years was 2:01 4/5ths, which is comparable to the 2010 BC Classic.
Bigshotism 10 months ago
@FloridaVermont I wouldn't suggest that Zenyatta had the same ability as Secretariat. Why should we expect female horse to be as able as their male counterparts? It is truly a remarkable filly that can beat her male counterparts at the highest levels of the game. Nevertheless, it's a mistake to try and compare horses across different generations. For one thing, today's American thoroughbred tends to be speedy and precocious, but lacks the stamina of yesteryear's competitors.
Bigshotism 10 months ago
@FloridaVermont Given today's breeding practices and racing philosophies, it's almost laughable that we've retained the 10F, 9.5F, and 12F distances for the Triple Crown. We've obliterated true classic and distance racing. It seems the upper threshold for most G1 routes is 9F's. There are a few 10F races, but they are the exception to the rule. I guess what I'm saying is that historical context is important. Zenyatta's performances are exceptional in the context of today's racing.
Bigshotism 10 months ago
@FloridaVermont One man o war is horse of the century two Ruffian is the queen third you need help :D
johnofohu123 3 months ago
@johnofohu123
Who the fuck are you?
Listen "Shit for Brains":
Take your leaf blower and your gardening equipment and get the fuck out of our country and go back to Mexico.
Do we understand each other?
westinniles 3 months ago
@westinniles Your immature for sure another thing i'm not even Mexican three you make me laugh how old are you 12 like really grow up you immature nigga! You belong in a toilet with your shit stains!
johnofohu123 3 months ago
@FloridaVermont is everyone forgetting about the great horsse ruffian? she never lost a race in her entire career except the one she died on
SuperVancouverBC 6 days ago
Zenyatta will mow down any filly, mare, colt or horse that dares to face her !
Go Zenyatta!!!
AnimalsRock4Love 1 year ago
@AnimalsRock4Love except Blame???
first time in her career she comes up against an actuaul Grade 1 standard horse on dirt and she gets beat
wow...epic.....not
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone It was for me. I was there. :)....and you? how many American races or horses have you ever seen in person? You know people just talk to you because it's sooo easy to push your buttons. Good for a laugh every time. I suggest you get off the computer and go to school...get a life...really you came back here 3 weeks later just to e-mail lil ole me...epic lolo
AnimalsRock4Love 1 year ago
I usually like national hunt horses, but when you see one as good as her, you've just got to take your hat off to her. Could have picked them off at anytime. No excuses for the lads beaten by a much better horse (filly/mare)
TheNeil62 1 year ago
Understand when something or someone becomes popular, the haters for it increases too because the following gets bigger. How could there be haters on someone obscure? Less known, less hating because not alot of a firm opinion is formulated yet. Celebs can be popular and unpopular at the same time. Zen is that way. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. But her popularity is already "critic-proof." She will still be loved years after, win or lose in the BCC. Not as overrated as RayFell AlexanDuh!
sweetepnoy 1 year ago
People can troll and act obnoxious which is equivalent to hecklers in the stand. At the end of the day, nobody will really remember their asinine opinions. Shrug it off. On Nov 6th, Zenyatta is the biggest star of the show. Take her out, and we lose viewers and almost half the BC attendance. Love her or hate her, people will come in droves to watch her. She is Must-See TV. Like iPhone. People hate Apple, but still lust for it.
sweetepnoy 1 year ago
@sweetepnoy I can assure u m8, ive been proved 100% right and i pity a soul who lusts after an iphone or any technology for that matter
it just shows how mind numbed you americans really are that u would lust after a phone and turn a blind eye to the marines commiting genoicide in Iraq in the name of the US
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone @ashleycolemobilefone wow ashley, you're still on this page yapping? you must really love this horse and this race, this is hysterical, you're still here! LMAO!!!!!
by the way, how did your Backdown do? oh that's right he lost.
let's say it together: mah-rune!
jpdiprince 1 year ago
"We hope you are enjoying live coverage of the Breeders' Cup Classic."
Well, we were until you interrupted it.
Pepper9873 1 year ago
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Pepper9873 1 year ago
i've watched this race 20 times. Still have no idea how she rallied to win this. Looked dead at the top of the stretch. Don't like her chances to repeat on conventional dirt at Churchill though
theaterphantom828 1 year ago
damnCFL Control...I hate Interruptions....They couldve waited..Its NOT as if a Filly just won the Super Bowl or nothin'.
205seeme 1 year ago 2
@205seeme I know! It REALLY bothers me too!
Dingerz 1 year ago
She is 6 now, time for everyone to stop calling her a filly.
ArchDandy1134 1 year ago
Horse Of The Race
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
I probably watched this a 100 times. It is just amazing how she ran like that.
kleinbogen 1 year ago 2
Pretty poor season if there is only 1 race that matters? seems wierd
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
Just can't get over Zenyatta's performance -- Glad that her connection are bringing her out to defend her Breeders cup title in 2010.
CrispinFlora 1 year ago
She Rocks!
Peace!
Dan
streamline5 1 year ago
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jpdiprince 1 year ago
@jpdiprince If Zenyatta is so great why do they duck every big race through the season?
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone uh, what was the name of that race the first week of november at santa anita last year? I forget. was that a restricted race? an allowance race? ungraded stakes? my memory isn't what it used to be, what was the name of that darned race?
jpdiprince 1 year ago
@jpdiprince thats 1 race, there are alot more than 1 big race a season, is there not?
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@jpdiprince where are you now u stupid cunt?
Attempting to even mention Zenyatta in the same breath as Sea The Stars
you delinquent wank fuck
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone really if you dont like the horse, why do you spend all your time yelling at people who do? why are you even on this video? just go watch sea of stars or find something better to do. maybe learn to read, play a sport, take up black ops and get your anger out on those people. leave the ones who enjoy the fantastic story this race horse has created alone.
redeemdgirl99 11 months ago
@ashleycolemobilefone yeah but that's the biggest. it doesn't really matter what races you run in during the year if you win that race. it's the richest race, attracting the best horses from all over the world. (except for the people who manage sea the stars. you wanna talk about a horse that ducks, there you are.) if you only win one, that's the one to win. and didn't she travel to oaklawn to face that other female? who didn't show up that race?
jpdiprince 1 year ago
@jpdiprince Sea The Stars ducked LMAO keep clutching at straws pal, your ignorance does not allow you to think that maybe not everyone is interested in the breeders cup
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone LMAO!!!!! yeah you're right who would be interested in a $3 million purse to the winner HAHAHAHAHA you're a maroon. if you had a good shot to win $3 million, you wouldn't take it? HAHAHAHA what a maroon.
jpdiprince 1 year ago
@jpdiprince If had already won 3 times that through the season and stood to make 20 times that on stud fees I wouldn't be interested in trecking half way round the world would you?
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone Its ONLY a 5 million dollar race.You're Right..not everyone is interrested in a 5 million dollar race...especially if they KNOW they have a horse that can win it so easily.
205seeme 1 year ago
@205seeme Sea The Stars would have won the BC Classic as easily as Backdown is going to win race 5 at Belmont tonight......on this the day of my daughters wedding, you come to me with this, on this very night, the night that Backdown was unleashed upon mere mortals, welll I ask you, seeme, because I can see you.
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone Only a fool says for certain a horse would win a race- that did not race.
ArchDandy1134 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone shut u fat ass miserable bitch lol at sea the stars...way overrated horse beat nobody..zarkava woulda beat him by 5 or more anytime anywhere anyday
bigfred3217 1 year ago
@bigfred3217 sure bob
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@ashleycolemobilefone Ducking what?? She won the breeders cup. By the way the breeders cup is a grade 1 race. On Breeders Cup day... The day. YOU CANNOT SMACK THIS FILLY. Unless you are an IDIOT!
timclassic 1 year ago
Get this through your heads people
on This day No horse or filly or mare
was going to beat
The Great Zenyatta.
American
European
or a horse from Mars.
one4theages 1 year ago 3
Its great that no matter what Rip Van Winkle does he will always have that "feet" excuse
digidot 1 year ago
MAN TSN really know how to ruin the finish of on of the greatest races!. Next to Secretariat, Cigar etc she is in the top 5 ever.
Nucleo85Torino 1 year ago
BETTER THAN C BISCUIT!!!!!!
vmenke 1 year ago
@vmenke That's a really stupid comparison. Sorry, but there's no possible to way to compare the two. Not that one is better than the other, but they are so different, and ran in two different centuries.
FireGirlG 1 year ago
@vmenke FUCK NO
whatthefuckubrat 1 year ago
i just started to cry! She's Amazing!!!!
I want a breyer model of her!!!! <3
WindWolfProductions 1 year ago 2
the great sea the stars the 2009 epsom derby winner, all would agree was a far superior derby winner to new approach, would have won this race with ease if he had gone over for it, just like ravens pass did to the other american superstar curlin
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
a very good performance but not an all time great, when you consider twice over was only 2 lenghs back in 3rd, who has hardly been a top class horse in europe, new approch the 2008 epsom derby winner beat him by 6 lenghs over the same distance at newmarket
MANUTD4LIFE171 1 year ago
I have watched this replay more times than I can remember, and every time I see it I am absolutely awestruck by the unbelievable grit and determination this mare displays every time she goes postward. And when you hear John Shirreffs talk about her and watch the expression of Mike Smith coming back to the winner's circle, you realise the love and respect they have for her. So no HOY award - whatever - no one can dispute that she IS a horse for the ages.
capriole57 1 year ago 2
Horse of the Decade!!!
Zenyatta2009 1 year ago 16
Guys...learn to have an appreciation for both these mares. The best part of this is you can just sit back and enjoy. This showdown may be the most anticipated since Affirmed and Seattle Slew in 78.
datzill7 1 year ago
i watch this every day and i STILL get chilles
Sami13p 1 year ago 23
@Sami13p - Just watched it for the first time and it made me burst into tears! I'm not even a horse person. She's so gorgeous!
Sehoy1 1 year ago
@Sami13p You and me both!! I love this horse.
leehall11 1 year ago
I've seen this video at least 10 times-it's in my favorites-and it gives me chills every time!! I love Rachel too,can't wait for April 9th,may the best girl win,as long as everyone comes back to the barn safely!!!!
ladyinred266 1 year ago
yep!
breyer4life 1 year ago
I'm going to freak out so hardcore on April 9- one superfilly is goin' down...
syren345 1 year ago
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and as she goes down, rachel goes down in history, as the straw that broke the camels back, yes i did go there, zenyatta is a camel
cmcgarth1O 1 year ago
Well, since Rachel is the same species, so is she.
syren345 1 year ago
lol good come back...
Sami13p 1 year ago
ZENYATTA RULES RACHEL SUCKS!
breyer4life 1 year ago
Who has Rachel Alexandra beaten?
syddiggers 1 year ago
she beat ure mother to a pulp
cmcgarth1O 1 year ago
Much like the pack of stable boys who used to ride your Mother on a daily basis?
syddiggers 1 year ago
what one? that is the million euro question
cmcgarth1O 1 year ago
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watch this crazy police chase, you see a man gettin killed dead
/watch?v=mMRYEscimtU
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
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TROLL
syren345 2 years ago
I was telling CMGARTH he was a troll. Carry on.
syren345 1 year ago
u were tellin nocunt nuffin
cmcgarth1O 1 year ago
Zenyatta didn't receive Horse of the Year because she is retired. Rachael can't fill her horseshoes!!!!!
thorobredfan 2 years ago 3
@thorobredfan Where have you been? She's was unretired.
Venckman 2 years ago
@thorobredfan She's not retired! Not anymore! :) :) :)
syren345 2 years ago 2
Joey that was GAY
ilovevsboy25 2 years ago
over that trip i have never seen any horse with her closing kick i am from the uk twice over ran a great race but zen won going away she is much too big and strong for rachel and in a true run race will win easily
driffboy 2 years ago 3
A horse psychic said Rachel Alexandra's reaction was a posture that indicated she thought Zenyatta was an attention whore. Zenyatta heard about this and seemed to call Rachel a slut. Rachel then gestured as if Zenyatta looked fat. So it's on now for sure!
JoeyFudd 2 years ago 2
so who won whore of the year then?
dessiesdoneit 2 years ago
Did I mention Rachel Alexandra won HOTY? Oh yes I did, I love it, i love it, i love it i love it!
ZEN GOT TROUNCED, AND IN SOCAL
NONETHELESS. LMAO
SUPERFILLY? YOU BET! Rachel Alexandra is indeed great, NOW SHE'S IMMORTAL! 2009 hoty 2009 hoty 2009 HOTY!!!!! Zen loses yet again. lmao
mik655 2 years ago
@mik655 HOTY THAT WAS INSULTED BY ROYAL ASCOT AND THE DUBAI WORLD CUP!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
duhru4real 2 years ago
@duhru4real So true- they went for the TRUE CHAMPION!
Zenyatta's the queen, Rachel Alexandra's the princess.
syren345 2 years ago
@mik655 The ceremony was in SoCal, but the vast majority of the voting came from east of the Mississippi, and that's what counts.
Venckman 2 years ago
@mik655 RA fans are sore winners so much more than Z fans are sore losers and that is sad. Win with grace...
And Z is immortal for something RA will never, EVER, have- an undefeated streak. Even IF she loses this year, 14 for 14 is better than RA will ever do.
syren345 2 years ago
Yeah, RA did on paper what no horse could do in real life...
syren345 1 year ago
2009 super filly RACHEL ALEXANDRA the great, horse of the year!!!!!! Zen, lost in a land slide, kinda like how socal now has a lot of mudslides, lmao
No more ducking and hiding in socal, but wat if it rains? will zens connections continue to hide? lol probably, either way Zen' gets exposed and I will delite!!!!
mik655 2 years ago
Zenyatta is just fabulous, Sea the Stars equally.. Put them together and what happens..? Oh lordy.
Zen picked this lot up and dusted them off " if she wins this she'll be a superhorse ", went the commentary at the BC; "..he'll have to be a superstar to win from there " went the commentary at the Arc. Both won in scintillating fashion. Sea the Stars afterburner lit at the 2 pole and he was gone. Watch both races, throw out the books and get a feel, as another guy here said. It's some call.
tenminutesgone 2 years ago 3
Zenyatta 14 win
Ciga 15 win
Silent witness 17 win
leebik2000 2 years ago
Sea The Stars is an all time great who did things no horse has ever done. Zenyatta wasn't challenged enough by her trainers to receive as high a rating. This is a shame because she had more untapped ability to show in my opinion, especially over more ground.
schardy80 2 years ago 2
It's not how many lengths Zenyatta beat Twice Over, or RVW for that matter. The form is not the race. That's why all those formulas like Timeform and Beyers underrate Zenyatta. It may look "logical" on paper, but watch the race and believe what you are seeing. Look at how fast Zenyatta goes by Twice Over, look at the length of her stride when she gets in the clear. The American "classic" distance is 10f, in Europe it's the metric equivalent of 12f. Z would crush STS or any Euro at 10-12f.
keybender 2 years ago 2
Thats why she is officially rated several pounds below STS?. The horse race expers must be wrong then. Obviously, you know a lot more than them. STS won real races on different courses and countries.
naashead 2 years ago
Yes, obviously I do know more than many of the "experts" or at least have more accurate and relevant information about Zenyatta. I bet on Z to win the BCC. Almost all the so-called "horse race experts" who relied on their paper formulas, gave Z no chance to win. STS is a great horse and it's a great shame that his greedy owner retired him after only a few wins. It's JMO but I believe the 5yo mare Zenyatta would beat the 3yo colt STS at this point in their careers, at 10-12f.
keybender 2 years ago
no chance m8, she would maybe give him a race, to the two pole.....
dessiesdoneit 2 years ago
An important unknown variable in a hypothetical race between STS and Zenyatta is how Zenyatta would handle turf and how STS would run over dirt or pro-ride synthetic. I would have really liked to see them race each other at least once on any surface.
keybender 2 years ago
sea the stars best trip was 10f....honest to fuck do use cunts even look into our horses? seriously, syren asked why did sts not run over 12 on turf but he won the derby and the arc both over 12. his best performance was over 10f in the eclipse at sandown, with the BC Turf winner well beat in 3rd and twice over was beat 18 lengths. rip ran a blinder to get to sts arse but he was never gettin past in a million years, sts was idling and just quickened again when he needed to. what a horse man
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
"She's Horse of the Decade...BY FAR!"
apajax6 2 years ago 2
use can stay in fantasy land all day, no bother too me, im a student of horse racing and i try my best to think logically, and ive no agenda against zenyatta, or america for that matter. there are sum sane ppl in the country after all, apparently there just hard to find
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
@cmcgarth1O You aren't trained in rhetoric of any kind, obviously. Your thinly veiled attack was, well, thinly veiled. You are the pinnacle of douchedom.
syren345 2 years ago
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aye very good syren, u went to university...great. hows being smart working out for you? ill try to thicken the veil nxt time i "attack" FY fuckin I you cant be the pinnacle of a made up word
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
Don't you watch South Park?
syren345 2 years ago
no thats a kids show
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
Quite the opposite...
syren345 1 year ago
there is nothing to suggest from this race that zen could have beaten sea the stars. if u honestly believe zen is 35 lengths better than rip, then u need help. if u honestly think this can justify saying she could beat sea the stars, u need help. the vacinity of twice over to the winner suggests this is a sub standard group1. she may have gave STS a race......to the two pole.
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
@cmcgarth1O STS ducked Zenyatta just like OVERRATED RACHEL. endofstory so shut the pie hole
duhru4real 2 years ago
STS would have destroyed Zenyatta and now ur precious Mare will get exposed when she races the regining HOTY RACHEL ALEXANDRA WOOOOOOO, ON dirt! that overhyped Mare zenyatta ,much like last night will end up a distant 2hd lmao!!! Get ready zen, u r about to be second yet again!!!!
mik655 2 years ago
@mik655 Can you turn down the douchedom a tiny bit?
syren345 2 years ago
@duhru4real Will you marry me?
syren345 2 years ago
lmao!!
21Sarabi 1 year ago
i would love to see just 1...just fucking 1 american horse even attempt to cum here for a group 1. its unheard of. what some ignorant, narrow minded ppl need to take into account is that the best horses in europe are trained for the best races in europe, not america. to have a horse spot on for the arc, after a long season, then to get them half way round the world, still at there peak, to try and win on a new surface for them, is near impossible. at least we try, and we dont do too bad!
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
@cmcgarth1O We have great, fun races here, why risk the horse's life to go over there? If you folks want to risk your horse's life that's your deal, but if we don't want to that's not something to be penalized for.
syren345 2 years ago
rip obviously never ran anywhere near his form because he would be at the very least 3 or 4 in front of twice over, if u look at every single horse who never took drugs, ie everyone of obriens, they dun nothing, not saying it was totally down to that, it was nuffing to do with the trip i can assure you, hes had problems all season and i think he was just over the top, remember aiden obrien and j murtagh have had alot of very good horses, and they both rated rip as one of there best.
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
He Might Of Finishe 3rd Rip
But He Wouldn't Of Passe Gio Or Zenyatta
ZenyattaLuver 2 years ago
everyone says,"Zenyatta didn't beat no quality horses likke Rachel but its not there fault no good horses were around at the time[. there both deserving victors but i give the edge 2 zenyatta for beating all the good horses around. only 1 HORSE would of scared Zenyatta out of the classic!!!!!!!!!! and everone should know who that is.
jesjo01 2 years ago
@jesjo01 Please and who is the one horse that would have scared Zenyatta away? YOU
OtherSidezDotCom 2 years ago
Zenyatta would have taken on any and all comers. Including Sea The Stars. Judging from this performance, Sea The Stars can thank his lucky ones that he stayed home. Nobody, I mean nobody would have beaten Big Z' on this day. What a monster!!!
BarbarosDerby132 2 years ago
you keep telling yourself that....ignorant fuck
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
@cmcgarth1O You keep telling yourself STS would have won. Ignorant fuck.
syren345 2 years ago
and the race was perfectly set up for a closer
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
although a group 1 horse did win it
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
this is just my shit opinion but this race would be group 2 level in europe, thats how my uneducated self rates and values this form.
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
the best in europe dont even go for it, and the best horse in america never even went for it
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
Street Sense should be so proud of his sister!
latinostallion94 2 years ago
So tired of that bs.
V
V
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"pretenders"
21Sarabi 2 years ago 2
I agree with keybender, no horse could beat Zenyatta at 10 furlongs or over. Under that, it would depend on how early Mike could get her to make her move, but why should she have run anything shorter than the classic distances? Unfortunately for Zenyatta fans and fortunately for Rachel fans we will never get the chance to see such races because the pretenders didn't show up for the Classic.
terrydwight47 2 years ago 2
the star colt of the decade didnt turn up either but u dont here me complaining
cmcgarth1O 2 years ago
Awesome!
Regal Ransom & Zenyatta !
They sure look great!
L.A.H.
Johnnys4me 2 years ago
i was there ABSOLUTELY BREATHTAKING! I never doubted her for one second, she is the true SUPER HORSE!
futurejockey8 2 years ago 2
C'est magnifique!!! I was there, & it was probably the best race I've ever seen, period!! I don't think I've ever seen her even break a sweat, & I've followed races her for almost 2 years! Distance is not a problem for her. Too bad she'll never see RA up close & personal.
viking1938 2 years ago 3