As an Atheist this was very interesting to listen too.
It is unusual to see a theist use intelligence and psychological insight to defend what they believe as opposed to bombarding someone with fallible verse after verse from a book.
In all essence what normally gets to Atheists the most is the arrogance and demeaning manner that most theists possess as they tell you how you will suffer eternally and die and they are right because they blindly follow something they have never challenged...
thanks for a very considerate video as I sometimes feel embarassed how people represent christianity. you seem to have a good grasp of the bible which is refreshing. To some extend I feel christ needed to purge the system of corruption by those who claimed to be the chosen ones as Jesus put that to myth but it explains part of the corruption claimed to be in the name of God in the old testament. It happened again when church mixed with politics in the roman empire.
3.Molesting children is NOT a good thing to do. 2. Whites are NOT the superior human race we are all equals. 1.Holding onto an outdated hatemonger religion that is as sloppily put together as christianity just makes the human race look like degenorate cavemen.
10.there is no god. 9.You are NOT superior to everyone else on earth. 8.Your cousin does NOT make for a good mate. 7.Attempting to shove your religion down other more intelligent people's throats makes them hate you even more. 6. Science is GOOD and without it you couldn't make yourselves look like worthless white trash on a daily basis! 5. A trailor park is NOT a classy place to live. 4.It is NOT okay to do what ever you want then "REPENT" for it on sunday!
@DarkCornor i am sorry that you are too stupid and scared to live in the real world, loser :) you could never elevate yourself to the status of a "troll" :) and more than half of the "ppl in this world" used to think the world was flat - looks like you would have been one of them, you worthless, uneducated little pussy :) you're obviously too stupid to know what an argumentum ad populum fallacy is :) you fucking retard :) LOL!
@MsGerrytodd and your obviously too stupid to know how to spell correctly xD
poor you. I know you're just calling ppl pussys and retards etc. becouse you hate your own life. so if you was a smart person, you wouldn't reply to this comment, your simply just making a fool of yourself :)
@DarkCornor you can't even spell "you're", you fucking retard LOL! i love my life :) i am sorry that yours is so miserable and pathetic that you need to pretend your imaginary god will save you from it LOL! you worthless, uneducated little pussy :)
@MsGerrytodd Oi, quit the insults mate, I'm an atheist but for some reason this is one christian that I can respect, he's the only christian who seems to understand what atheism really is. Even if he's a christian, he doesn't seem like a radical and crazy ones who stick their believes into your face, so I'd say that his believes are harmless. Instead of making fun of him, why don't you just ask questions.
@sariahtea Yes Bonns, he and I both have been blocked from 10 Q's...Glad created another account, but I doubt I will...the hypocrisy runs too deep there...take care
The best thing a theist can do to avoid looking stupid is to abandon their cherished mythical delusion and check out reality for a change. When the truth is on your side you don't need to have lessons in how to avoid looking dumb, you don't need to rehearse any bullshit lines to prop up your faith, which is really only make believe.
Wow!! here you are 2 months ago sprouting the same obscenities.
You are able to project sarcasm towards those that do not agree with you although when the sarcasm is given back to you, you squirm and shout like the nasty little child that you are.
he's glad he took the red pill and also glad to take it up the ass. i should know, this gut has been riding my dick for a month or so now, he;s like a 6th grader. so fucking childish.
hey thanks for bouting with me. im glad i looked at your site and at least found out were on the same side. if you havent already you should look up rob bell. he has a lot to say to prove god through science and evolution. i think you'd find it very enlightening.
Jesus died because he was "ratted out" by an apostol, not because he wanted to "die for our sins", but I also don't take anything in the bible literally. Evolution does rule out creation, there is no debating what humans have studied for the past hundred years. To take the bible literally you are forced to make huge assumptions. . .
You have no idea why Jesus died. You think that it is a fact that he was ratted out and went to death unwillingly? Please, look harder for the answer. With love,
most christians are not christians. every person that runs around condemning others and those that REFUSE to be humble and compassionate are NOT christian
Thankfully I'm a Chiropractor and not an Medical doctor. But yes, I do have a Bachelor's degree in science, though somewhat outdated now. And also thankfully, I came to faith in Christ as a young man of 20, before I was unduly influenced by the bias of skeptics.
No, it means those issues which were of a cultural/historical nature of that day are made relevant by understanding the principals rather than strictly adhering to archaic standards. For example, Paul exhorts women to dress modestly. In that day, women dressing modestly was likely different than we would consider it today, yet the principal stands, that women should dress modestly within the context of OUR society, not as they did when Paul penned the instruction.
You understand the reasoning and augments I wonder why you believe in a book which was put to gather for political control by the eastern Roman Empire. based on the morals of the time and there limited understanding of the world
I don't believe that was the purpose of biblical canonization. I think you confuse its abuse with its true purpose, and though the bible is written within a historical and cultural context, those principals which it teaches are timeless.
Very impressive. I would like to ask you some questions.
1. Does it bother you knowing that the "God" concept came about as man's attempt to explain what was unexplainable? (ie thunder came from Zeus)
2. Do you know the scientific reasoning behind spiritual experiences, why humans enjoy things that seem useless from an evolutionary standpoint like singing/dancing or other forms of art?
3. Studying other religions made me Atheist; are you familiar w/other religions?
Thankyou for your approval and questions. I am sorry for the delay, however I have been away from my computer for some time. With regard to your questions:
1. Recognizing that it is a natural result of ancient men in their scientific ignorance to attribute that which was unexplainable to them a cause unseen and spiritual doesn't bother me even slightly. Nor should it suggest to you that one falsehood implies all falsehoods.
2. I do have a general understanding of how science, and neurobiology in particular attribute claimed spiritual experiences to neurochemical activity in certain structures of the brain. And neither does this confuse a Christian understanding because we recognize what the materialists are confined from, that being an immaterial soul which interacts and imposes activity upon the material brain.
3. I have a general understanding of the monotheistic religions and somewhat less of others, and in fact have recently read the entire Koran and the Bhagavad Gita.
3. I was actually in favor of the bible compared to other religious texts, but as time went by I realized that the bible was just as primitive and violent as other religious texts. My question is, why do you favor this particular religious text over others?
1. I would imagine it would conjure up at least some doubt; especially considering that the bible is not a "book" in the sense of a linear novel, rather a collection of random documents written by different ppl, during different times and places and not knowing if the bible is truly complete. Coupled with the possibility of mistranslation/manipulation from being passed down in the wrong hands, and anyone being capable of lying.
Glad, Good cautionary video. Hopefully your "brethren (and sisteren)" will take your sage advice rather than continuing the steady stream of silly responses I see posted so often (especially the "threat" spamming, i.e., "Your going to Hell", etc.).
What a pleasure to watch a video like this, made by a man who has actually given these matters a lot of thought, whose responses to opposing points of view are not knee-jerk reactions, but thoughtful and expressed totally without the vitriol we have become accustomed to seeing. I may disagree with your point of view, but I am full of admiration for your fair-mindedness and (dare I say it) your humility.
Red Pill, thank you for this thoughtful video. I myself got the impression that you could be an atheist, when in actuality you dislike it when Christians argue Christianity without being fully Christian. While perhaps this says I have no actual place in an intellectual debate on religion, I am just a high school student whose parents rarely took him to church (not their fault, but that's another matter). I am in the process of reading the Bible, and I have largely ignored the Old Testament. X p
Tom...I was just going through my video comments and came across yours. I'm glad to hear that you're reading through the Bible; it's possibly the most important thing you'll ever do in your life.
I suppose it's way late to tell you this, and I may have already...can't remember, but in case I haven't, and in case you've lost your steam, I suggest that you read John, then Acts, then Romans. That'll give you the big picture as far as the NT goes.
Thanks, actually I found an Rss feed on the internet so I read one chapter a day of the Bible on Google Reader. It's quite handy. Thank you for the suggestion, at a chapter a day I won't get around to the the New Testement until about two years so those can suffice until then.
Tom, I really wouldn't do it that way if I were you. The scriptures most relevant today are the NT ones. If you read the OT first at one chapter a day, you'll have a whole lot of background, but that's about all. It would be better instead to read the NT books I suggested, and then even pick up an introductory commentary at a Christian bookstore on each of them and read them too. That way the tie-ins will be specific for you, and much more understandable.
You say what people must '''' DO '''' , And you speak against the Scriptures by telling women that they don't have to have Long Hair when praying in order .
So - if the Bible is true, then it behooves us to study it and obey its precepts.
If the Bible is NOT true, then what does it matter? If you follow its teachings, you will lead a life of kindness and goodwill toward your fellow man, with high moral standards and when you die you will merely cease to exist.
If the Bible IS true, then you will be held accountable before the throne of Almighty God for your sins. You will face heaven or hell, based on your relationship with Christ.
For centuries, science declared certain Biblical references to specific cities and peoples to be fairy tales. But as time has passed, more and more of these places have been discovered by the archeologists' spade to be exactly as described in exactly the place described. Coincidence?? Hardly.
Indeed, the historical existence of Jesus Christ is accepted by all scholars of ancient literature as fact, regardless of their religious inclinations - or lack thereof.
In other words, it is important that the Christian faith is based on something that has been PROVEN to a certain degree to be so. The prophecies of Christ some 600+ years before His birth are one such proof of the Bible's veracity. The other prophecies concerning Israel are another proof. when you have so many 'proofs' of accuracy, against seemingly insurmountable odds, you can be sure that your 'faith' is in something real.
if you think critically, ur faith is not proof of god, that actually makes no sense at all. Just cuz i believe there's a giant speghetti monster out there, and have faith in it, doesnt mean my faith alon proves it. that's downright retarded. I would expect a little more sound reasoning from a man ur age.
You are absolutely correct - your belief does not provce the existence of anything. There are millions who believe their martyrdom (sp?) will grant them x-number of virgins in Paradise. They are quite sincere in this belief - but their sincerity will not do them any good if the object of their belief does not exist. Right? So it is important to have faith in something that has been PROVEN to some degree, even if not in entirety.
Would "faith" work as legitiment evidence elsewhere in life? "Hey Bob, are you for or against tax cuts for the wealthy." "Well, I'm against them Jim" "Why's that Bob?" "Because I simply know them to be wrong, Jim." "What do you mean Bob?" "I have faith they're not correct." "Do you have evidence for this belief, Bob?" "No I don't Jim, but I do still believe they're wrong and I know they are." "Oh, ok Bob, I respect that." A bit satirical maybe but the premise is correct and the point stands.
What you don't recognize is that my faith, and the faith of all those who truly believe, is not "belief without evidence", but is actually the evidence itself.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. (Hebrews 11:1, NASB)
And...it is a gift from God, not something contrived as people commonly understand.
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God...(Ephesians 2:8 NASB).
Faith belief cannot be based on evidence or it's not faith. Faith is defined as "belief without logical proof or material evidence". If something is in question, say the legitimacy of the Bible, that thing cannot be self vindicating. In other words, the Bible can't be true because it says it's true, you need outside evidence to proof that. The same applies to your faith. Your faith can't be "evidence" in and of itself unless it can be proven some how, or it's just "desire".
Theories like evolution require no faith because they have substantial evidence that makes them true (scientific fact) no matter what anyone "believes" of them. Any disagreement one might have with evolution requires evidence, and evolution is still #1 theory because no considerable counter evidence exists as of yet. Faith, on the other hand, is true not because there is evidence for faith's validity but rather that faith itself is evidence for faith? I don't understand.
Why then would you apply the logic present in children (which I would consider the folly of children's logic) - that being faith or "belief without logical proof" (tfd.c om/faith) - and apply that to the understanding of your God? Why is that reasoning considered sound and logical? Don't you believe that, being grown as we are, we should only apply more rigorous and scrupulous ratiocination? If you do believe so, shouldn't faith then be considered a reprehensible belief system?
When I was young, everything that made my view of the world foolish was the assumptions I made about it. When I was young I would believe that there was a 10 legged monster in my closet. What made it scary is that I assumed it was possible for such a beast to exist. As I grew older I realized that, while I couldn't prove that beast DIDN'T exist, I could prove his likelihood of existing was so small it wasn't worth considering. The evidence (or the lack thereof) was what set me free.
I respect your humility gladItooktheredpill, but I still don't understand what merit's religious belief. If God is not required to explain how we arose to the point of existence we are at, then why support the hypothesis at all? If God's existence is based upon the supposition that the Bible is true but there's no evidence of the Bible being true aside from it's self-validating claims...why believe? Why believe something, that has no evidence? It seem counter-intuitive.
You have a point, but remember that we are dealing with devils not with brothers, hence we should be wiser than serpents but harmless as doves. We are at war with demons. And in every kind of battle, we should be equipped with every kind of available but harmless strategies. Psychological tactics are useful tool.
You have a point, but remember that we are dealing with devils not with brothers, hence we should be wiser than serpents but harmless as doves. We are at war with demons.
Do you have any evidence of these devils or are you just baselessly asserting that they exist? Have you any skin cells (demon cells?) left behind by one of these 'demons'? Has a demon ever been captured and critically analyzed by biologists or scientists of any sort? Does it trouble you that there is no evolutionary evidence for the creation of devils or demons? Are you sure you understand evolution CharlesDarwinnn? (Man it hurts to say that)
All good points. Thanks for posting. As you say, respect in a Christ like way is very important. Often there are posts that attack and use language or insults designed to denigrate or perhaps bate a like response. God does not teach us to love by surrounding us with nice people always willing to be politely rational. But no one said being a Christian was the path to a life of easy acceptance. Take up your cross and follow me - sometimes it is difficult but God's grace gives strength.
Sorry your prayers have gone unanswered.mine haven't.maybe if you stopped criticising God he'd listen to you..You either search him out or you don't..no one is holding a gun at your head..no one is asking you to give all your money to the church...Jesus said, if you see a man naked, then clothe him, if you see a man hungry then feed him, if you see a man thirsty then give him something to drink...as for hating people...Who hates who? HATE is a very strong word. we can dislike but still love
you already stated that only sin free people get there prayers answered (which is noone) so your prayers cant be answered...i don't search out god or santa claus...you ask me to seek out a church to interpret the bible (which is a joke) which one they all have differnt interpretations...so you ramble on about hate ect...since you have no logical point to make...do you want to admit churches just make up stuff to fill in the gaps of the bible like you have in your last few post?
The first quote made me laugh, it is funny. As I kept reading them I couldn't help but agree with them especially the last one which raised a thought to my mind. What if my God doesn't hate the same people I do and even challenges me to not hate them? Does that make him not man-made or am I some kind of positively diluted person (as I have been told by other atheists that I have a mental disorder for believing in the supernatural)? Just a thought.
Stephen F. Roberts: I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than YOU do. When YOU understand why YOU dismiss all the other possible gods, YOU will understand why I dismiss yours.
i don't have the time right now to type more but i will respond more in detail later...why don't you believe in the other 10,000+ gods? some have simalar holy books inspired by thier "god" and are very simalar to your religion..what makes yours different?
"why don't you believe in the other 10,000+ gods? some have simalar holy books inspired by thier "god" and are very simalar to your religion..what makes yours different?"
There are many differences. First and most important is the way Christianity handles the problem of sin. Unlike all other religions, it is not dependent on human effort but on God's intercession through Jesus.
"Stephen F. Roberts: I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than YOU do"
I'll also add that atheism, along with those 10,000+ religions, does an inadequate job of dealing with the problem of sin. Atheists act as if it doesn't exist. That's one substantial difference between Christianity and atheism, and one reason among many for why I will contend that we are not both atheists. I'm quite interested to see if any atheists will take note of any of this. I'm guessing not.
Atheism is NOT a religion. You did not understand that quote:
"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than YOU do"
You don't believe in any other gods but the christian god; right? There are thousands of OTHER gods. Since atheism is a LACK of belief in gods, you're an atheist when it comes to all others EXCEPT one.
When you can explain why YOU do not believe in all those other gods, then you will understand why we do not believe in ANY gods. <<<<<THINK
Wrong. I'll send you a link. It ranks among one of the "more proactive/well-defined philosophies" that qualifies as a religion in a sociological sense, albeit a secular one.
"you're an atheist when it comes to all others"
No, I'm still a theist that says some people don't worship the One True God. This is different from you because you say they in fact don't worship any God at all. You are an atheist with regard to all religions and I am not.
NO. You are wrong. I've visited that site many times and have given it to those who TRY to claim atheism is a religion. Look, I'm not about to get into a pissing match here with someone who does not UNDERSTAND one damn thing when it comes to atheists. I back up that statement by pointing out the biggest CLUE you gave, and that being your statement starting with : "No, I'm still a theist...."
Look, I don't give a shit if you think it is, or if you claim it is until the end of time. YOU are WRONG. RELIGION involves SOME kind of SUPERNATURAL ENTITY.....a god, and spirits, angels, ghosts, demons, prayers, rituals, creeds, doctrines, tenets, Holy books, after life, etc. ATHEISM has NONE of those things. We do not believe in ANY kind of external, woo woo UNSEEN entities, or worship of such gods, or afterlive's. NOTHING like that.
"RELIGION involves SOME kind of SUPERNATURAL ENTITY"
It doesn't have to. Hinduism and Buddhism are two of the dozen or so classical religions, and they are the least unified of any of them. In each of these religions, along with other Eastern ones, you can believe in one God, lots of Gods, no gods, or anything else you can think of. It doesn't make you any less of a Buddhist or Hindu.
Are you crazy? NO, don't need to answer that. When a person hits rock bottom, only a fool keeps on digging. Hindu's have many gods they believe in and pray to ! Duh! And buddhism has the holy Baghegeveda (sp?) tenets; they have all sorts of beliefs in the after life, reincarnation, etc. So you FAIL there, buddy.
"that being your statement starting with : "No, I'm still a theist...." "
You're missing the point. The initial claim by you was that I'm an atheist regarding all gods but my own. I explained why I am, as I always am, still a theist regarding all those other gods. Your arguments from personal incredulity are no good here.
YOU try reading it again! THIS IS what YOU said: "I explained why I am, as I always am, still a theist regarding all those other gods."
DUH! a theist believes in a GOD, or GODS ! You said you WERE a theist to ALL those gods! duh!
Now, I'm outta here! You keep moving the goal posts; keep saying you didn't say something; keep twisting and convoluting and acting like you know what you're talking about when you DON'T . Bye bye!
Right up there at the top, here on YouTube, type in the SEARCH FEATURE:
"DEBUNKING -Atheism is a religion" and knock yourself out trying to claim that. shit. I love it how theists are always trying to tell us atheists what we are, what we believe, like they know us, know our minds better than we do. Then you have the audacity to tell us WE don't know anything about YOUR beliefs, forgetting the fact that MOST of us were /USED TO BE exactly where you are . I WAS for over 40 yrs!
"you have the audacity to tell us WE don't know anything about YOUR beliefs....
the fact that MOST of us were /USED TO BE exactly where you are"
Part 1: straw man. I didn't say anything like that.
Part 2: I guess it makes sense that you'd proselytize mostly to Christians. Yes, you. Proselytize. Trying to induce someone to convert to your religion (in a sociological albeit secular sense): atheism. It's what you do. You'd be better at it if you'd just admit that's what you're doing.
You're an idiot. A LIAR. and one huge mass of contradictions. The only way anyone can be a christian is to chuck your brain in the trash. Yeck! *still laughing my ass off at the Hindu /buddhist mumbo jumbo*
"You're an idiot. A LIAR. and one huge mass of contradictions. The only way anyone can be a christian is to chuck your brain in the trash."
This is exactly why you are not successful in your attempts to proselytize. You wouldn't talk to anyone like this in real life (I don't think). Don't do it online, either. No name-calling.
"You wouldn't talk to anyone like this in real life (I don't think). Don't do it online, either. No name-calling. "
When ignorant people push and push and twist, and carry on the way many theists do,. when they nudge, and prod, and change the rules, change the goal posts, and or generally get on that last nerve......yeah, I usually tell them to fuck off. Now, I'm telling YOU to go get fucked!
This is an example of rationalizing unacceptable behavior and blaming someone else for your own actions. Please do everyone a favor and take responsibility for what you say and do. Don't blame others.
"Now, I'm telling YOU to go get fucked!"
Not the first time an atheist has said this to me. I'm sure it won't be the last. For the record, I will not go get fucked, but the fact that you told me to do so still makes you look bad.
LMAO! Keep on dig, dig ,dig, digging. Look, dummie, I could care less what the hell you believe. I'm not trying to "convert". That is the theist's baliwick. I like to debate, discuss, argue.......that is it. Besides you religious freaks try to push your gobble gook idiocy into legislation , and THAT affects my civil rights. I'll fight that crap until I draw my last breath, soooo label me what you want, it don't bother me
"I'm not trying to "convert". That is the theist's baliwick."
You certainly do try to "convert." When you seek out Christians and tell them they should stop believing what they believe and start believing what you believe, this is called proselytizing. I do it too, but I call it what it is. I'm also quite a bit better at it than you are.
Also, you did not answe the question Stephen F. Robersts ask:
"why don't you believe in the other 10,000+ gods? some have simalar holy books inspired by thier "god" and are very simalar to your religion..what makes yours different? " ALL you said was those other religions do "an inadequate job of dealing with sin" ? THAT'S IT??
Hellasow..cont.. live for God, it doesn't mean we can't have money but if the money,or the other false idols takes over our thinking and becomes the number 1 thing in our life and we even hurt others to get it, then it is a false idol,in this case we choose death, a living death where we experience emptiness and no amount of money,material possessions,lovers, etc can satisfy us,by nourishing our souls on the word of God, we choose life..we are at peace no matter our circumstances
people see god where they want to i just saw an "idot" that saw jesus in a chetos yesterday on the news...and in toast last year... i think on a window streak before that...there is a guy in rusia that is prety popular many think he is jesus...a decade ago some thot a guy name david k in waco texas was pretty special...your god can't do anything...except make people look to thier food in search of jesus and the rest of his mythical gang...
cont..to be worshipped, they were to be part of his holy temple in the desert, a place to worship God,not a place to worship the cherubims, when he says do not worship carved images, he has two meanings: one, do not make any statue or whatever in my image as no one can imagine my image..He is divine and cannot be visualized so we'd be worshipping a false god..the second meaning is, do not worship false idols as they will never satisfy you, they will enslave you,e.g, money,success,sex,live for..
there are many things we do which we are unaware of..please do not think I see myself as a know -all. This is what I learned on a 7 year faith walk I did...going on retreats, bible interpretation etc..which changed my life..I thought everyone else was the problem but I learned my biggest problem was myself.. I blamed others for everything and saw myself as Miss Perfection
oh your a women so your worth about half as much as me according to Leviticus 27:3-7.
$ = Shekels of silver
Ages 1 month - 5 years: Male = $5; Female = $3
Ages 5 years - 20 years: Male = $20; Female = $10
Ages 20 years - 60 years: Male = $50; Female = $30
Ages 60 and up: Male = $15; Female = $10
according to the bible your far inferierior to me as a man...hey at least science only say you brain is 10% smaller (size wise) than a mans brain...the bible treat women like dirt
to hellasow, here I can only imagine that a male was worth twice as much as a female, not because God hated females, but in terms of labour a male was worth two females because of his strength, so you would have needed two women to do the job of one man
hellasow...read in context, your presumption of human value being a reflection of the monetary amount described in Lev. 27 is incorrect.
This value doesn't speak to their intrinsic value, but to their ability to do work.
You don''t pay one guy 20 thousand a year and another 100 thousand a year because they're a more valuable person, but because of the value of their work.
cont...you feel..judging others ruins our thoughts and in turn we cannot enjoy what God has offered us,choose life or death he says: but not a physical death, infact a physical death is better than a spiritual death..when we are spiritually dead we are unhappy..you could win the lottery but still be unhappy..you can have everything but have nothing, or you can have nothing but have everything..I have experienced spiritual death through my own sins...I didn't know why I wasn't happy - now I know
The bible satys Christians are "new Creations with a new nature"
All things become "new". Just as a catepiller changes into a butterfly a Christian changes from a "slave to sin to a slave to righeousness. He has a "new" nature. "Whena Christian really believes unto Christ and believes He paid for their sins he will have a "new" heart of graditude and his desire will be to please Christ which can be called "repentance."
The requirement is "belief" and "Faith" in Christ alone for your salvation. To avoid dangerous false professions knowledge of belief and saving faith is important. Without evidense how can one have assurance of salvation? I am sure you would agree the requirement and evidense go hand in hand. Dead faith saves nobody. As we know an insincere profession will lead many to damnation. Many will say Lord Lord thinking thy were saved and He will say I never knew you.
Desolate...I'm the Christian kind of Christian. The definition of Christian is contained in the video, so you really shouldn't need me to answer that.
The answer desolatecity, is that he is not a Christian at all. He comes periodically unto other videos to insult people's appearance. He thinks Catholics are evil.
What denomination gladItooktheredpill is, I don't know.
But I do know he is a Christian with a heart for others to know the gospel.
And andrey671Z, since you are putting yourself in place of defense of Roman Catholics, what is your interpretation of Replacement Theory and where is that found in the canon of scripture?
There is only one type of Christian--The bible says Christians are "new Creations with a new nature"
All things become "new". Just as a catepiller changes into a butterfly a Christian changes from a "slave to sin to a slave to righeousness. He has a "new" nature. "Whena Christian really believes unto Christ and believes He paid for their sins he will have a "new" heart of graditude and his desire will be to please Christ which can be called "repentance."
Glad, it's kinda hard to avoid looking foolish being christian now in this time of science, technolgy, logic and reason. "Jesus" never lived, the scholars and scientists have found out. And gods are also impossible with the physics we have in the universe.
winter...as we've become familiar with each other, I must conclude that you are very closed minded and lack the slightest bit of intellectual inquisitiveness.
In order to "know" the things you claim to, you must necessarily only listen to what you want to hear, and that without a hint of either critical thought or discernment.
Thanks for upping the Video! These are very wise and reasonable points you make. I do my best to behave like this. I hope other Christians take notice also. Well done.
I like how you say that one must debate; intelligently, respectfully, and being well educated.
Also the problem with taking the bible literally today is that such literature was written thousands of years ago. The authors of biblical literature were writing such scriptures in concurrence with their language of their day. Two thousand years later, our understanding of language is different, and word terminology is different.
luke 14-26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.
You have taken that out of context. It's basicly saying you must love Christ so much in comparison you hate even those you love the most. So it's not actually saying hate them, its saying love Christ more than anything else. Well at least I'm pretty sure that's its intended context : P
well you can read the best meaning into anything ...i was just quoting it. you can interperet it any way you like :-P...you'd figure a all knowong god could communicate more effectively :P...
hellasow...the verse from luke 14 - 26 about if anyone comes to me and does not hate his father mother etc...caused me a lot of confusion as well but then it was explained to me(correct me anyone if I am wrong) it is supposed to mean that you should hate anything/one that is a barrier between you and God.e.g a family member who tries to convince you God doesnot exist,I hope I am right
to hellasow..cont..of previous message..another example luke 14-26 if anyone comes to me and does not hate his father, mother wife and children, even his own life...hate anyone who leads you to sin hence standing between you and God..hate yourself if you resort to sin
As an Atheist this was very interesting to listen too.
It is unusual to see a theist use intelligence and psychological insight to defend what they believe as opposed to bombarding someone with fallible verse after verse from a book.
In all essence what normally gets to Atheists the most is the arrogance and demeaning manner that most theists possess as they tell you how you will suffer eternally and die and they are right because they blindly follow something they have never challenged...
BarrettBowley 7 months ago
thanks for a very considerate video as I sometimes feel embarassed how people represent christianity. you seem to have a good grasp of the bible which is refreshing. To some extend I feel christ needed to purge the system of corruption by those who claimed to be the chosen ones as Jesus put that to myth but it explains part of the corruption claimed to be in the name of God in the old testament. It happened again when church mixed with politics in the roman empire.
fourteatwo 8 months ago
3.Molesting children is NOT a good thing to do. 2. Whites are NOT the superior human race we are all equals. 1.Holding onto an outdated hatemonger religion that is as sloppily put together as christianity just makes the human race look like degenorate cavemen.
MrCommonSense100 1 year ago
@MrCommonSense100 thanks man...I'm glad you're not a racist pedophile :P
MEGAxxxDETH666 11 months ago
10.there is no god. 9.You are NOT superior to everyone else on earth. 8.Your cousin does NOT make for a good mate. 7.Attempting to shove your religion down other more intelligent people's throats makes them hate you even more. 6. Science is GOOD and without it you couldn't make yourselves look like worthless white trash on a daily basis! 5. A trailor park is NOT a classy place to live. 4.It is NOT okay to do what ever you want then "REPENT" for it on sunday!
MrCommonSense100 1 year ago
this poor, old, ugly, bald, uneducated, perverted pussy thinks he is going to his imaginary heaven LOL! what a stupid, old prick :)
MsGerrytodd 1 year ago
@MsGerrytodd welcome to the world you live in :)
as a troll you probly just got out of your cave somewhere in the forest.
So.... i will just let you know that more than half the ppl in this world believe there is a heaven. or that there is a god of some kind.
DarkCornor 1 year ago
@DarkCornor i am sorry that you are too stupid and scared to live in the real world, loser :) you could never elevate yourself to the status of a "troll" :) and more than half of the "ppl in this world" used to think the world was flat - looks like you would have been one of them, you worthless, uneducated little pussy :) you're obviously too stupid to know what an argumentum ad populum fallacy is :) you fucking retard :) LOL!
MsGerrytodd 1 year ago
@MsGerrytodd and your obviously too stupid to know how to spell correctly xD
poor you. I know you're just calling ppl pussys and retards etc. becouse you hate your own life. so if you was a smart person, you wouldn't reply to this comment, your simply just making a fool of yourself :)
DarkCornor 1 year ago
@DarkCornor you can't even spell "you're", you fucking retard LOL! i love my life :) i am sorry that yours is so miserable and pathetic that you need to pretend your imaginary god will save you from it LOL! you worthless, uneducated little pussy :)
MsGerrytodd 1 year ago
@MsGerrytodd Oi, quit the insults mate, I'm an atheist but for some reason this is one christian that I can respect, he's the only christian who seems to understand what atheism really is. Even if he's a christian, he doesn't seem like a radical and crazy ones who stick their believes into your face, so I'd say that his believes are harmless. Instead of making fun of him, why don't you just ask questions.
biggsleezy 6 months ago
You're an agnostic. Deal with it.
asiankevind 1 year ago
look at this ugly asshole
MsGerrytodd 1 year ago
Hello, have you been blocked?
sariahtea 1 year ago
@sariahtea Yes Bonns, he and I both have been blocked from 10 Q's...Glad created another account, but I doubt I will...the hypocrisy runs too deep there...take care
TruthChamp 1 year ago
I like your introduction although Christ was not God, Christ was a child of God as are all Humans.
Why do you refer to God as a HE. That is a very patriarchal term.
Read Genesis Chpt 6, God is not alone and God is not a single being and is in actual fact spoken about in the multiple/many, as WE.
God is the BE and the ING, ie beginning and the end.
Jesus was forceful with his convictions therefore softly spoken individuals do not achieve the results required!!!
unionof666666 1 year ago
Ironic title for a video. Doctor, heal thyself.
odinata 1 year ago
@odinata He's a chiropractor.
AndrewDangerously 1 year ago
The best thing a theist can do to avoid looking stupid is to abandon their cherished mythical delusion and check out reality for a change. When the truth is on your side you don't need to have lessons in how to avoid looking dumb, you don't need to rehearse any bullshit lines to prop up your faith, which is really only make believe.
astrophonix 1 year ago
@astrophonix
Wow!! here you are 2 months ago sprouting the same obscenities.
You are able to project sarcasm towards those that do not agree with you although when the sarcasm is given back to you, you squirm and shout like the nasty little child that you are.
unionof666666 1 year ago
hail satan!
tristanlol1 1 year ago
you're on the edge. It's just a matter of time before you wake up and realize how you've been fooling yourself. Been there.
72daystar 1 year ago
by definition, christians look stupid
FlawedUniverse 2 years ago
Maybe I got it wrong and it's the other way around.. Sorry my apologies if I did..
TheForthcoming1 2 years ago
Blue pill (christianity) or red pill (atheism)?..
TheForthcoming1 2 years ago
WOW - is that the PILL guy? Damn I wasted time posting with him.
Trouble is.... Looking Christian, and Looking Foolish... are much the same thing.
Roper122 2 years ago
he's glad he took the red pill and also glad to take it up the ass. i should know, this gut has been riding my dick for a month or so now, he;s like a 6th grader. so fucking childish.
executionerofgod 2 years ago
hey thanks for bouting with me. im glad i looked at your site and at least found out were on the same side. if you havent already you should look up rob bell. he has a lot to say to prove god through science and evolution. i think you'd find it very enlightening.
gocows2china 2 years ago
'..prove god through science and evolution"
Science does not comment on gods, magic or voodoo.
Evolution is part of Biology, a science.
gregrutz 2 years ago
This was a very good video
i have to give it the 5th star.
LoyalGuy58 2 years ago
BULL SHIT !
irooni100 2 years ago
"The 10 questions every intelligent Christians must answer" ......... lol, says it all! :S
andrewjustice2601 2 years ago
You rock Dr. Mitch. thanks for putting up this vid. God Bless you.
orcaluv 2 years ago
Christians have to argue against science for their believes to take root, this is one reason that religion is disgusting to me.
ForgetGod666 2 years ago
As least they are "arguing" now
Its better than what they use to do which was to burnt scientist at the stake ( after torutring them)
badpanda84 2 years ago
Jesus died because he was "ratted out" by an apostol, not because he wanted to "die for our sins", but I also don't take anything in the bible literally. Evolution does rule out creation, there is no debating what humans have studied for the past hundred years. To take the bible literally you are forced to make huge assumptions. . .
Chris
ForgetGod666 2 years ago
You have no idea why Jesus died. You think that it is a fact that he was ratted out and went to death unwillingly? Please, look harder for the answer. With love,
Chris
Roahn3 2 years ago
I've looked and found that the "blood sacrifice" of "Jesus" isn't what I want to rule my life.
ForgetGod666 2 years ago
go ahead, nobody cares
TrannyAcid 2 years ago
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MylesZoey 2 years ago
Some Christians are not just Christians
it's not seen in they're attitude though they say they are Christians....
it gives Christianity a bad name
unbelievers will look at you even stare at you closely
it's good you made this video
PureAngelful 2 years ago
most christians are not christians. every person that runs around condemning others and those that REFUSE to be humble and compassionate are NOT christian
theeyeisblind 2 years ago
Thankfully I'm a Chiropractor and not an Medical doctor. But yes, I do have a Bachelor's degree in science, though somewhat outdated now. And also thankfully, I came to faith in Christ as a young man of 20, before I was unduly influenced by the bias of skeptics.
gladItooktheredpill 2 years ago
On your video what said is true. Your a Doctor a men of sciences MD? what I would like to know
is why and how you come to your conclusions.
Tony2438 2 years ago
No, it means those issues which were of a cultural/historical nature of that day are made relevant by understanding the principals rather than strictly adhering to archaic standards. For example, Paul exhorts women to dress modestly. In that day, women dressing modestly was likely different than we would consider it today, yet the principal stands, that women should dress modestly within the context of OUR society, not as they did when Paul penned the instruction.
gladItooktheredpill 2 years ago
Intresting but you could use that argument for everything in the bible
How is a 2000 year old book relvant to society.
Sure love thy neighbour is good advice but I didnt need to the bible to figure that out.
badpanda84 2 years ago
Yeah this dude looks like a pedifile, RUN CHILDREN!
ForgetGod666 2 years ago
people still don't take heed to old words which puts them in a situation that the knowledge of the bible could've avoided.
DiggityDoglikeDogg 2 years ago
Think deeper. Good luck.
Roahn3 2 years ago
But you could use that arguement to justifity anything
For instance you could say that "no premartial sex" only applied in those days because people got married much earlier in there teens
badpanda84 2 years ago
You understand the reasoning and augments I wonder why you believe in a book which was put to gather for political control by the eastern Roman Empire. based on the morals of the time and there limited understanding of the world
Tony2438 2 years ago
I don't believe that was the purpose of biblical canonization. I think you confuse its abuse with its true purpose, and though the bible is written within a historical and cultural context, those principals which it teaches are timeless.
gladItooktheredpill 2 years ago
Dose that mean you chose parts to believe and disregard the rest ?
Tony2438 2 years ago
Very impressive. I would like to ask you some questions.
1. Does it bother you knowing that the "God" concept came about as man's attempt to explain what was unexplainable? (ie thunder came from Zeus)
2. Do you know the scientific reasoning behind spiritual experiences, why humans enjoy things that seem useless from an evolutionary standpoint like singing/dancing or other forms of art?
3. Studying other religions made me Atheist; are you familiar w/other religions?
Thanx
GigaGanonMan 1 year ago
@GigaGanonMan
Thankyou for your approval and questions. I am sorry for the delay, however I have been away from my computer for some time. With regard to your questions:
1. Recognizing that it is a natural result of ancient men in their scientific ignorance to attribute that which was unexplainable to them a cause unseen and spiritual doesn't bother me even slightly. Nor should it suggest to you that one falsehood implies all falsehoods.
gladItooktheredpill1 1 year ago
@gladItooktheredpill1
2. I do have a general understanding of how science, and neurobiology in particular attribute claimed spiritual experiences to neurochemical activity in certain structures of the brain. And neither does this confuse a Christian understanding because we recognize what the materialists are confined from, that being an immaterial soul which interacts and imposes activity upon the material brain.
gladItooktheredpill1 1 year ago
@gladItooktheredpill1
cont...
And yes, I have read the suggestions of Dawkins in The God Delusion.
gladItooktheredpill1 1 year ago
@gladItooktheredpill1
3. I have a general understanding of the monotheistic religions and somewhat less of others, and in fact have recently read the entire Koran and the Bhagavad Gita.
gladItooktheredpill1 1 year ago
3. I was actually in favor of the bible compared to other religious texts, but as time went by I realized that the bible was just as primitive and violent as other religious texts. My question is, why do you favor this particular religious text over others?
bigredphenom 1 year ago
2. If all we have are senses that only work in a material world, how can we for sure know we have something beyond the material world?
bigredphenom 1 year ago
Thanx or your reply
1. I would imagine it would conjure up at least some doubt; especially considering that the bible is not a "book" in the sense of a linear novel, rather a collection of random documents written by different ppl, during different times and places and not knowing if the bible is truly complete. Coupled with the possibility of mistranslation/manipulation from being passed down in the wrong hands, and anyone being capable of lying.
bigredphenom 1 year ago
@Tony2438 This is the first time I've ever seen "together" turn into "to gather."
NegationZero 10 months ago
@NegationZero Its a temporarily separation
Tony2438 9 months ago
Good video 5 stars
JAMRAND 2 years ago 2
Glad, Good cautionary video. Hopefully your "brethren (and sisteren)" will take your sage advice rather than continuing the steady stream of silly responses I see posted so often (especially the "threat" spamming, i.e., "Your going to Hell", etc.).
Pax
xephyr1000 2 years ago
What a pleasure to watch a video like this, made by a man who has actually given these matters a lot of thought, whose responses to opposing points of view are not knee-jerk reactions, but thoughtful and expressed totally without the vitriol we have become accustomed to seeing. I may disagree with your point of view, but I am full of admiration for your fair-mindedness and (dare I say it) your humility.
wildknight1103 2 years ago
Red Pill, thank you for this thoughtful video. I myself got the impression that you could be an atheist, when in actuality you dislike it when Christians argue Christianity without being fully Christian. While perhaps this says I have no actual place in an intellectual debate on religion, I am just a high school student whose parents rarely took him to church (not their fault, but that's another matter). I am in the process of reading the Bible, and I have largely ignored the Old Testament. X p
TomwithOnions 2 years ago
Tom...I was just going through my video comments and came across yours. I'm glad to hear that you're reading through the Bible; it's possibly the most important thing you'll ever do in your life.
I suppose it's way late to tell you this, and I may have already...can't remember, but in case I haven't, and in case you've lost your steam, I suggest that you read John, then Acts, then Romans. That'll give you the big picture as far as the NT goes.
Turn to Him and you'll never regret it.
gladItooktheredpill 2 years ago
Thanks, actually I found an Rss feed on the internet so I read one chapter a day of the Bible on Google Reader. It's quite handy. Thank you for the suggestion, at a chapter a day I won't get around to the the New Testement until about two years so those can suffice until then.
TomwithOnions 2 years ago
Tom, I really wouldn't do it that way if I were you. The scriptures most relevant today are the NT ones. If you read the OT first at one chapter a day, you'll have a whole lot of background, but that's about all. It would be better instead to read the NT books I suggested, and then even pick up an introductory commentary at a Christian bookstore on each of them and read them too. That way the tie-ins will be specific for you, and much more understandable.
gladItooktheredpill 2 years ago
I sense that you are a man in limbo...
neither fully christian nor fully heathen.
Don't forget that mingling with the philistines too much can get your eyes poked out.
Cast not your pearls before the swine that roam these threads... they are content in the mud.
ShiningLure 2 years ago
Dr. Mitch (or redpill) , I agree with you,
God Bless you brother.
marcbldc7 2 years ago
"now is the time to dign up to the greatest club in the world. christinaty "
You mean the "greatest CULT" in the world. also, why is it that christians for the most part can't spell worth crap? just wondering .
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felixmabus99 3 years ago
when god arrives on earth your all gona be sorry. now is the time to dign up to the greatest club in the world. christinaty
godswayisright 3 years ago
What Hypocrite .
You say what people must '''' DO '''' , And you speak against the Scriptures by telling women that they don't have to have Long Hair when praying in order .
Your name is Lies .
highfIyerto 3 years ago
yeah... share this in church, so they don't look stupid as their religion...
pedalla 3 years ago
So - if the Bible is true, then it behooves us to study it and obey its precepts.
If the Bible is NOT true, then what does it matter? If you follow its teachings, you will lead a life of kindness and goodwill toward your fellow man, with high moral standards and when you die you will merely cease to exist.
If the Bible IS true, then you will be held accountable before the throne of Almighty God for your sins. You will face heaven or hell, based on your relationship with Christ.
Choose!
1oftheboyz 3 years ago
For centuries, science declared certain Biblical references to specific cities and peoples to be fairy tales. But as time has passed, more and more of these places have been discovered by the archeologists' spade to be exactly as described in exactly the place described. Coincidence?? Hardly.
Indeed, the historical existence of Jesus Christ is accepted by all scholars of ancient literature as fact, regardless of their religious inclinations - or lack thereof.
1oftheboyz 3 years ago
In other words, it is important that the Christian faith is based on something that has been PROVEN to a certain degree to be so. The prophecies of Christ some 600+ years before His birth are one such proof of the Bible's veracity. The other prophecies concerning Israel are another proof. when you have so many 'proofs' of accuracy, against seemingly insurmountable odds, you can be sure that your 'faith' is in something real.
1oftheboyz 3 years ago
Keep thinking gladitooktheredpill, you're almost there.
MisterEvil1 3 years ago
wow this is really fun to watch
fusionbernard 3 years ago
kill religion before it kills humanity
the end times is not going to be what the bible says it is. the end times are gonna be man made and because of religion.
religion kills
AntiVenomFangX 3 years ago
.... nuclear bomb ....
axum3000 3 years ago
lets just hope a fundamentalist doesn't get his or her hands on one.
AntiVenomFangX 3 years ago
Good vid Glad, dunno what to say, very rational, keep up the good work....
surtacefunc 3 years ago
another religious nutcase in the 21st century. sigh
eddieindahouse 3 years ago
Raca. Time to go home. I don't think you're welcome there anymore.
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
if you think critically, ur faith is not proof of god, that actually makes no sense at all. Just cuz i believe there's a giant speghetti monster out there, and have faith in it, doesnt mean my faith alon proves it. that's downright retarded. I would expect a little more sound reasoning from a man ur age.
xXFooXx 3 years ago
fool stfu
Liquidemblem 3 years ago
You are absolutely correct - your belief does not provce the existence of anything. There are millions who believe their martyrdom (sp?) will grant them x-number of virgins in Paradise. They are quite sincere in this belief - but their sincerity will not do them any good if the object of their belief does not exist. Right? So it is important to have faith in something that has been PROVEN to some degree, even if not in entirety.
1oftheboyz 3 years ago
Dear gladitooktheredpill, thank you for your very thoughtful video.
cooIbreeze 3 years ago
My pleasure.
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
10 Things Christians must know to avoid looking foolish:
1-10. Stop being Christian.
bajablast09 3 years ago
Switch756 3 years ago
What you don't recognize is that my faith, and the faith of all those who truly believe, is not "belief without evidence", but is actually the evidence itself.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. (Hebrews 11:1, NASB)
And...it is a gift from God, not something contrived as people commonly understand.
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God...(Ephesians 2:8 NASB).
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
Faith belief cannot be based on evidence or it's not faith. Faith is defined as "belief without logical proof or material evidence". If something is in question, say the legitimacy of the Bible, that thing cannot be self vindicating. In other words, the Bible can't be true because it says it's true, you need outside evidence to proof that. The same applies to your faith. Your faith can't be "evidence" in and of itself unless it can be proven some how, or it's just "desire".
Switch756 3 years ago
Theories like evolution require no faith because they have substantial evidence that makes them true (scientific fact) no matter what anyone "believes" of them. Any disagreement one might have with evolution requires evidence, and evolution is still #1 theory because no considerable counter evidence exists as of yet. Faith, on the other hand, is true not because there is evidence for faith's validity but rather that faith itself is evidence for faith? I don't understand.
Switch756 3 years ago
Why then would you apply the logic present in children (which I would consider the folly of children's logic) - that being faith or "belief without logical proof" (tfd.c om/faith) - and apply that to the understanding of your God? Why is that reasoning considered sound and logical? Don't you believe that, being grown as we are, we should only apply more rigorous and scrupulous ratiocination? If you do believe so, shouldn't faith then be considered a reprehensible belief system?
Switch756 3 years ago
When I was young, everything that made my view of the world foolish was the assumptions I made about it. When I was young I would believe that there was a 10 legged monster in my closet. What made it scary is that I assumed it was possible for such a beast to exist. As I grew older I realized that, while I couldn't prove that beast DIDN'T exist, I could prove his likelihood of existing was so small it wasn't worth considering. The evidence (or the lack thereof) was what set me free.
Switch756 3 years ago
I respect your humility gladItooktheredpill, but I still don't understand what merit's religious belief. If God is not required to explain how we arose to the point of existence we are at, then why support the hypothesis at all? If God's existence is based upon the supposition that the Bible is true but there's no evidence of the Bible being true aside from it's self-validating claims...why believe? Why believe something, that has no evidence? It seem counter-intuitive.
Switch756 3 years ago
You have a point, but remember that we are dealing with devils not with brothers, hence we should be wiser than serpents but harmless as doves. We are at war with demons. And in every kind of battle, we should be equipped with every kind of available but harmless strategies. Psychological tactics are useful tool.
CharlesDARWINnn 3 years ago
You have a point, but remember that we are dealing with devils not with brothers, hence we should be wiser than serpents but harmless as doves. We are at war with demons.
Oooga booga
bonnienettles 3 years ago
Do you have any evidence of these devils or are you just baselessly asserting that they exist? Have you any skin cells (demon cells?) left behind by one of these 'demons'? Has a demon ever been captured and critically analyzed by biologists or scientists of any sort? Does it trouble you that there is no evolutionary evidence for the creation of devils or demons? Are you sure you understand evolution CharlesDarwinnn? (Man it hurts to say that)
Switch756 3 years ago
All good points. Thanks for posting. As you say, respect in a Christ like way is very important. Often there are posts that attack and use language or insults designed to denigrate or perhaps bate a like response. God does not teach us to love by surrounding us with nice people always willing to be politely rational. But no one said being a Christian was the path to a life of easy acceptance. Take up your cross and follow me - sometimes it is difficult but God's grace gives strength.
theatretim 3 years ago
What kind of clothes does god like? Does he wear a hat?
TheStrangeRanger 3 years ago
Nuh-uh. He doesn't like hats. He thinks they're a silly invention.
Bobstew68 3 years ago
I'm sorry...that's just not worthy of a response.
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
WHAT CAN GOD DO? HE DOES NOTHING...SINCE HE IS NOT REAL...
"Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day;
Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish"
"You'll never find a dead Christian in a foxhole who didn't pray."
"You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do."
hellasow 3 years ago
intresting
deepknotch 3 years ago
Sorry your prayers have gone unanswered.mine haven't.maybe if you stopped criticising God he'd listen to you..You either search him out or you don't..no one is holding a gun at your head..no one is asking you to give all your money to the church...Jesus said, if you see a man naked, then clothe him, if you see a man hungry then feed him, if you see a man thirsty then give him something to drink...as for hating people...Who hates who? HATE is a very strong word. we can dislike but still love
3474515 3 years ago
you already stated that only sin free people get there prayers answered (which is noone) so your prayers cant be answered...i don't search out god or santa claus...you ask me to seek out a church to interpret the bible (which is a joke) which one they all have differnt interpretations...so you ramble on about hate ect...since you have no logical point to make...do you want to admit churches just make up stuff to fill in the gaps of the bible like you have in your last few post?
hellasow 3 years ago
The first quote made me laugh, it is funny. As I kept reading them I couldn't help but agree with them especially the last one which raised a thought to my mind. What if my God doesn't hate the same people I do and even challenges me to not hate them? Does that make him not man-made or am I some kind of positively diluted person (as I have been told by other atheists that I have a mental disorder for believing in the supernatural)? Just a thought.
LordAndo57 3 years ago
here is another quote for you...
Stephen F. Roberts: I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than YOU do. When YOU understand why YOU dismiss all the other possible gods, YOU will understand why I dismiss yours.
i don't have the time right now to type more but i will respond more in detail later...why don't you believe in the other 10,000+ gods? some have simalar holy books inspired by thier "god" and are very simalar to your religion..what makes yours different?
hellasow 3 years ago
"why don't you believe in the other 10,000+ gods? some have simalar holy books inspired by thier "god" and are very simalar to your religion..what makes yours different?"
There are many differences. First and most important is the way Christianity handles the problem of sin. Unlike all other religions, it is not dependent on human effort but on God's intercession through Jesus.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
"Stephen F. Roberts: I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than YOU do"
I'll also add that atheism, along with those 10,000+ religions, does an inadequate job of dealing with the problem of sin. Atheists act as if it doesn't exist. That's one substantial difference between Christianity and atheism, and one reason among many for why I will contend that we are not both atheists. I'm quite interested to see if any atheists will take note of any of this. I'm guessing not.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
Atheism is NOT a religion. You did not understand that quote:
"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than YOU do"
You don't believe in any other gods but the christian god; right? There are thousands of OTHER gods. Since atheism is a LACK of belief in gods, you're an atheist when it comes to all others EXCEPT one.
When you can explain why YOU do not believe in all those other gods, then you will understand why we do not believe in ANY gods. <<<<<THINK
PaineLover 3 years ago
"Atheism is NOT a religion."
Wrong. I'll send you a link. It ranks among one of the "more proactive/well-defined philosophies" that qualifies as a religion in a sociological sense, albeit a secular one.
"you're an atheist when it comes to all others"
No, I'm still a theist that says some people don't worship the One True God. This is different from you because you say they in fact don't worship any God at all. You are an atheist with regard to all religions and I am not.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
NO. You are wrong. I've visited that site many times and have given it to those who TRY to claim atheism is a religion. Look, I'm not about to get into a pissing match here with someone who does not UNDERSTAND one damn thing when it comes to atheists. I back up that statement by pointing out the biggest CLUE you gave, and that being your statement starting with : "No, I'm still a theist...."
PaineLover 3 years ago
"I've visited that site many times and have given it to those who TRY to claim atheism is a religion"
Did you read the part where it says atheism is a religion in a sociological albeit secular sense? It's not a classical religion, but it's a religion.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
Look, I don't give a shit if you think it is, or if you claim it is until the end of time. YOU are WRONG. RELIGION involves SOME kind of SUPERNATURAL ENTITY.....a god, and spirits, angels, ghosts, demons, prayers, rituals, creeds, doctrines, tenets, Holy books, after life, etc. ATHEISM has NONE of those things. We do not believe in ANY kind of external, woo woo UNSEEN entities, or worship of such gods, or afterlive's. NOTHING like that.
PaineLover 3 years ago
"RELIGION involves SOME kind of SUPERNATURAL ENTITY"
It doesn't have to. Hinduism and Buddhism are two of the dozen or so classical religions, and they are the least unified of any of them. In each of these religions, along with other Eastern ones, you can believe in one God, lots of Gods, no gods, or anything else you can think of. It doesn't make you any less of a Buddhist or Hindu.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
Are you crazy? NO, don't need to answer that. When a person hits rock bottom, only a fool keeps on digging. Hindu's have many gods they believe in and pray to ! Duh! And buddhism has the holy Baghegeveda (sp?) tenets; they have all sorts of beliefs in the after life, reincarnation, etc. So you FAIL there, buddy.
PaineLover 3 years ago
"Hindu's have many gods they believe in and pray to"
But you don't have to. You can believe in zero gods and still be a Hindu.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
"that being your statement starting with : "No, I'm still a theist...." "
You're missing the point. The initial claim by you was that I'm an atheist regarding all gods but my own. I explained why I am, as I always am, still a theist regarding all those other gods. Your arguments from personal incredulity are no good here.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
"I always am, still a theist regarding all those other gods."
You believe in all the other gods?? Wow. I thought you were a christian (a theist regarding the christian god) only.
PaineLover 3 years ago
"You believe in all the other gods?? Wow. I thought you were a christian (a theist regarding the christian god) only."
That's not what I said. Try reading it again. Also look into doing less with false dichotomies.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
"That's not what I said. Try reading it again"
YOU try reading it again! THIS IS what YOU said: "I explained why I am, as I always am, still a theist regarding all those other gods."
DUH! a theist believes in a GOD, or GODS ! You said you WERE a theist to ALL those gods! duh!
Now, I'm outta here! You keep moving the goal posts; keep saying you didn't say something; keep twisting and convoluting and acting like you know what you're talking about when you DON'T . Bye bye!
PaineLover 3 years ago
Right up there at the top, here on YouTube, type in the SEARCH FEATURE:
"DEBUNKING -Atheism is a religion" and knock yourself out trying to claim that. shit. I love it how theists are always trying to tell us atheists what we are, what we believe, like they know us, know our minds better than we do. Then you have the audacity to tell us WE don't know anything about YOUR beliefs, forgetting the fact that MOST of us were /USED TO BE exactly where you are . I WAS for over 40 yrs!
PaineLover 3 years ago
"you have the audacity to tell us WE don't know anything about YOUR beliefs....
the fact that MOST of us were /USED TO BE exactly where you are"
Part 1: straw man. I didn't say anything like that.
Part 2: I guess it makes sense that you'd proselytize mostly to Christians. Yes, you. Proselytize. Trying to induce someone to convert to your religion (in a sociological albeit secular sense): atheism. It's what you do. You'd be better at it if you'd just admit that's what you're doing.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
You're an idiot. A LIAR. and one huge mass of contradictions. The only way anyone can be a christian is to chuck your brain in the trash. Yeck! *still laughing my ass off at the Hindu /buddhist mumbo jumbo*
PaineLover 3 years ago
"You're an idiot. A LIAR. and one huge mass of contradictions. The only way anyone can be a christian is to chuck your brain in the trash."
This is exactly why you are not successful in your attempts to proselytize. You wouldn't talk to anyone like this in real life (I don't think). Don't do it online, either. No name-calling.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
"You wouldn't talk to anyone like this in real life (I don't think). Don't do it online, either. No name-calling. "
When ignorant people push and push and twist, and carry on the way many theists do,. when they nudge, and prod, and change the rules, change the goal posts, and or generally get on that last nerve......yeah, I usually tell them to fuck off. Now, I'm telling YOU to go get fucked!
PaineLover 3 years ago
"When ignorant people push and push and twist"
This is an example of rationalizing unacceptable behavior and blaming someone else for your own actions. Please do everyone a favor and take responsibility for what you say and do. Don't blame others.
"Now, I'm telling YOU to go get fucked!"
Not the first time an atheist has said this to me. I'm sure it won't be the last. For the record, I will not go get fucked, but the fact that you told me to do so still makes you look bad.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
"Yes, you. Proselytize. "
LMAO! Keep on dig, dig ,dig, digging. Look, dummie, I could care less what the hell you believe. I'm not trying to "convert". That is the theist's baliwick. I like to debate, discuss, argue.......that is it. Besides you religious freaks try to push your gobble gook idiocy into legislation , and THAT affects my civil rights. I'll fight that crap until I draw my last breath, soooo label me what you want, it don't bother me
PaineLover 3 years ago
"I'm not trying to "convert". That is the theist's baliwick."
You certainly do try to "convert." When you seek out Christians and tell them they should stop believing what they believe and start believing what you believe, this is called proselytizing. I do it too, but I call it what it is. I'm also quite a bit better at it than you are.
mmmcounts 3 years ago
Also, you did not answe the question Stephen F. Robersts ask:
"why don't you believe in the other 10,000+ gods? some have simalar holy books inspired by thier "god" and are very simalar to your religion..what makes yours different? " ALL you said was those other religions do "an inadequate job of dealing with sin" ? THAT'S IT??
PaineLover 3 years ago
Hellasow..cont.. live for God, it doesn't mean we can't have money but if the money,or the other false idols takes over our thinking and becomes the number 1 thing in our life and we even hurt others to get it, then it is a false idol,in this case we choose death, a living death where we experience emptiness and no amount of money,material possessions,lovers, etc can satisfy us,by nourishing our souls on the word of God, we choose life..we are at peace no matter our circumstances
3474515 3 years ago
people see god where they want to i just saw an "idot" that saw jesus in a chetos yesterday on the news...and in toast last year... i think on a window streak before that...there is a guy in rusia that is prety popular many think he is jesus...a decade ago some thot a guy name david k in waco texas was pretty special...your god can't do anything...except make people look to thier food in search of jesus and the rest of his mythical gang...
hellasow 3 years ago
cont..to be worshipped, they were to be part of his holy temple in the desert, a place to worship God,not a place to worship the cherubims, when he says do not worship carved images, he has two meanings: one, do not make any statue or whatever in my image as no one can imagine my image..He is divine and cannot be visualized so we'd be worshipping a false god..the second meaning is, do not worship false idols as they will never satisfy you, they will enslave you,e.g, money,success,sex,live for..
3474515 3 years ago
3474515...so why does god tell people how to build a false idol? Exodus 25:18-20
hellasow 3 years ago
there are many things we do which we are unaware of..please do not think I see myself as a know -all. This is what I learned on a 7 year faith walk I did...going on retreats, bible interpretation etc..which changed my life..I thought everyone else was the problem but I learned my biggest problem was myself.. I blamed others for everything and saw myself as Miss Perfection
3474515 3 years ago
oh your a women so your worth about half as much as me according to Leviticus 27:3-7.
$ = Shekels of silver
Ages 1 month - 5 years: Male = $5; Female = $3
Ages 5 years - 20 years: Male = $20; Female = $10
Ages 20 years - 60 years: Male = $50; Female = $30
Ages 60 and up: Male = $15; Female = $10
according to the bible your far inferierior to me as a man...hey at least science only say you brain is 10% smaller (size wise) than a mans brain...the bible treat women like dirt
hellasow 3 years ago
to hellasow, here I can only imagine that a male was worth twice as much as a female, not because God hated females, but in terms of labour a male was worth two females because of his strength, so you would have needed two women to do the job of one man
3474515 3 years ago
hellasow...read in context, your presumption of human value being a reflection of the monetary amount described in Lev. 27 is incorrect.
This value doesn't speak to their intrinsic value, but to their ability to do work.
You don''t pay one guy 20 thousand a year and another 100 thousand a year because they're a more valuable person, but because of the value of their work.
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
cont...you feel..judging others ruins our thoughts and in turn we cannot enjoy what God has offered us,choose life or death he says: but not a physical death, infact a physical death is better than a spiritual death..when we are spiritually dead we are unhappy..you could win the lottery but still be unhappy..you can have everything but have nothing, or you can have nothing but have everything..I have experienced spiritual death through my own sins...I didn't know why I wasn't happy - now I know
3474515 3 years ago
The bible satys Christians are "new Creations with a new nature"
All things become "new". Just as a catepiller changes into a butterfly a Christian changes from a "slave to sin to a slave to righeousness. He has a "new" nature. "Whena Christian really believes unto Christ and believes He paid for their sins he will have a "new" heart of graditude and his desire will be to please Christ which can be called "repentance."
Spurgeon687 3 years ago
Spurgeon...yes, I agree. This however is evidence of salvation, not requirement for salvation, as your namesake would agree.
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
The requirement is "belief" and "Faith" in Christ alone for your salvation. To avoid dangerous false professions knowledge of belief and saving faith is important. Without evidense how can one have assurance of salvation? I am sure you would agree the requirement and evidense go hand in hand. Dead faith saves nobody. As we know an insincere profession will lead many to damnation. Many will say Lord Lord thinking thy were saved and He will say I never knew you.
Spurgeon687 3 years ago
wow you need a new camera I tried to watch your video but it hurts my eyes
sssssbooom 3 years ago
What kind of christian are you, since that word can mean anything?
TheDesolateCity 3 years ago
Desolate...I'm the Christian kind of Christian. The definition of Christian is contained in the video, so you really shouldn't need me to answer that.
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
The answer desolatecity, is that he is not a Christian at all. He comes periodically unto other videos to insult people's appearance. He thinks Catholics are evil.
andrey671Z 3 years ago
What denomination gladItooktheredpill is, I don't know.
But I do know he is a Christian with a heart for others to know the gospel.
And andrey671Z, since you are putting yourself in place of defense of Roman Catholics, what is your interpretation of Replacement Theory and where is that found in the canon of scripture?
jazzyhap 3 years ago
There is only one type of Christian--The bible says Christians are "new Creations with a new nature"
All things become "new". Just as a catepiller changes into a butterfly a Christian changes from a "slave to sin to a slave to righeousness. He has a "new" nature. "Whena Christian really believes unto Christ and believes He paid for their sins he will have a "new" heart of graditude and his desire will be to please Christ which can be called "repentance."
Spurgeon687 3 years ago
Glad, it's kinda hard to avoid looking foolish being christian now in this time of science, technolgy, logic and reason. "Jesus" never lived, the scholars and scientists have found out. And gods are also impossible with the physics we have in the universe.
winterstellar 3 years ago
winter...as we've become familiar with each other, I must conclude that you are very closed minded and lack the slightest bit of intellectual inquisitiveness.
In order to "know" the things you claim to, you must necessarily only listen to what you want to hear, and that without a hint of either critical thought or discernment.
gladItooktheredpill 3 years ago
Thanks for upping the Video! These are very wise and reasonable points you make. I do my best to behave like this. I hope other Christians take notice also. Well done.
wiinux 3 years ago
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ColoradoMikeyS 3 years ago
you are a smart man ,not areligin pusher ... andfor retards that dont under standhim
him: dont be a dipshit who beleaves and is just like I LOVE GOD and cant say anything about why
sepphtmage 3 years ago
I like how you say that one must debate; intelligently, respectfully, and being well educated.
Also the problem with taking the bible literally today is that such literature was written thousands of years ago. The authors of biblical literature were writing such scriptures in concurrence with their language of their day. Two thousand years later, our understanding of language is different, and word terminology is different.
trekyz 3 years ago
here is what jesus says
luke 14-26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.
can i get a amen for hating family and yourself?
hellasow 3 years ago
Sorry but this is coming from an atheist.
You have taken that out of context. It's basicly saying you must love Christ so much in comparison you hate even those you love the most. So it's not actually saying hate them, its saying love Christ more than anything else. Well at least I'm pretty sure that's its intended context : P
carnut666 3 years ago
well you can read the best meaning into anything ...i was just quoting it. you can interperet it any way you like :-P...you'd figure a all knowong god could communicate more effectively :P...
hellasow 3 years ago
hellasow...the verse from luke 14 - 26 about if anyone comes to me and does not hate his father mother etc...caused me a lot of confusion as well but then it was explained to me(correct me anyone if I am wrong) it is supposed to mean that you should hate anything/one that is a barrier between you and God.e.g a family member who tries to convince you God doesnot exist,I hope I am right
3474515 3 years ago
to hellasow..cont..of previous message..another example luke 14-26 if anyone comes to me and does not hate his father, mother wife and children, even his own life...hate anyone who leads you to sin hence standing between you and God..hate yourself if you resort to sin
3474515 3 years ago