the Reform-Conservatives - We have trouble recognizing certain types of people

[copcorona]

both the Libs and the Cons voted for C -15 Both parties want to Double Down on the war on drugs. Sorry Libs, but you are as bad as the Cons.

[CheapAssPro]

I typed Mohammed and it worked fine for me.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

yeah they fixed it.

[circushead]

They fixed it. So your histrionic youtube post proves inaccurate. So you should take it down, you fantasist.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

But it does all work on the assumptions many Canadians have that a Majority Conservative government would be a mistake for Canada. Certainly Harper's other remarks (made recently) don't really do much to alleviate these concerns. I'd actually like a minority Liberal government with the NDP and Bloc holding the balance of power. I know this sounds frightening to you but a government that respects the views of ALL of it's people sounds like a GREAT idea to me.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

and it doesn't have to be some "open Conservative conspiracy" as you put it. Simply some conservative party worker enforcing his/her own ideology. Databases don't work that way and neither does programming. Therefore your explanation is not at all plausible.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

And it's just a "coincidence" that out of all the possible names in existence he chooses "Christi"?

Tell me.. in a database.. what correlation or similarity between the names "Christi" and "Mohammed" would trigger such an error? I think you don't know much about how a database works because if he calls you "Mohammed" the rest of the video then the first "Christi" would have had to have been deliberate.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

Let me see here. (you're a human being so I ask that you use your logic here).

I type in a series of names.. those not recognized by the system.. make Mike Duffy say "Hello There" skipping the name. ONLY ONE NAME "Mohammed" triggers the response "Christi". How do you propose that be due to shoddy programming (I'm a programmer btw).

[TheElMoIsEviL]

What does that have to do with the topic at hand? This isn't a Liberal vs. Conservative thing. This is the Conservative party showing their true colors and pushing one religious belief down the throats of an individual who likely practices a different religious belief. Separation of Church and State. Or do you not care about the Canadian Constitution and the laws of the land?

[circushead]

Absolute nonsense! The Tories don't push any religious belief whatsoever.

BTW, separation of church and state is an American concept and it was designed to ensure evangelical Christians would be free from harassment from Anglicans. So stop invoking it every time you feel threatened by an imaginary prejudice.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

Let's see here. You're wrong on two counts. Keep it up :) The idea of Separation of church and state originated from several key figures during the Enlightenment period (mostly in France and the U.K.). In the United States, it came about as a concept by Thomas Jefferson. It was his idea that religion should have no place in government (his letter to the Dansbury Baptist Church). It had nothing to do with separating two groups but rather not allowing a single group more religious pull over any

[circushead]

Nope. You are historically ignorant.

[circushead]

That's precisely how I defined it. Unfortunately, it is generally invoked as a club to attempt to intimidate any religious spokesperson from stating a view publicly. I'm well aware that we have freedom of religion in Canada. It is a freedom endorsed by all our major parties and most churches.

Of course, Islam would differ on the importance of that freedom.

[BoredomCorner]

Many Christian groups would also differ on freedom of religion. Charles McVety's Family Action Coalition -- of which many Tories are members, BTW -- thinks that non-religious people have no right to their beliefs.

And frankly, if many "religious" people would stop using their beliefs as an excuse to attacks gays, women, Muslims, etc. maybe they wouldn't get yelled at themselves. Ever thought of that?

[circushead]

The Family Action Coalition believes no such thing, you are lying. But in any event, they are not the Conservative Party, so it's a moot point.

Hmmm...and what would certain Muslims do to gays, women, etc.? Have you noticed that gays, women, Muslims all enjoy perfect freedom in our society. Please contrast that with the situation in Arab countries. Then, try to be less of a naive idiot from now on.

[BoredomCorner]

No I'm not lying. Charles McVety specifically said on Live @ 530 a few months ago, that atheists do not have freedom of religion (which is incorrect), and he repeatedly screams that secularists are destroying Canada and opressing Christianity.

They are firmly embedded in the Tories, and several MPs are members, therefore it is prudent to consider them linked at minimum.

Comparing to Muslim countries is irrelevant -- this party takes pride in denying civil rights to gays, women, and foreigners.

[circushead]

What civil rights do the Tories deny to gays, women, and 'foreigners', you liar?

If McVety opines that secularists are destroying Canada, that is his right to express it. If you disagree with him, form an argument.

Charles McVety's organization is not the Conservative Party, so to equate the two is horseshit.

I find the comparison of Canadian law to that of Muslim countries extremely relevant, since many Muslims wish to see shari'a established in Canada.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

other. As for Canada... it came about prior to 1867 as part of the Liberal Party of Canada platform. It is not a part of our Charter of Rights and Freedoms and thus enshrined into our constitution.

I suggest you read Jefferson's Letter to the Dansbury Baptists and his communications with John Adams in order to educate yourself on the concept as it applies itself in the United States and as for Canada that you READ the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. There is mention of Freedom of Religion...

[TheElMoIsEviL]

You could do a quick search on Google for the words: Freedom of religion in Canada.

[BoredomCorner]

The Tories don't push religion?

Then why did they argue against same-sex marriage, for mainly religious reasons? Why are they being propped up by fundamentalist groups like the Canadian Family Action Coalition? Why do many of them -- including the PM -- regard atheists as left-wing enemies? Why did their science minister refuse to acknowledge evolution?

I can go on, but the fact is the Reform-a-Tories ARE a fundy party, in a country that is supposed to represent EVERYONE, not just Christians.

[circushead]

Same sex marriage is the law in Canada. So your argument that the Tory party is a shadowy cabal of Christian fundamentalists bent on depriving gays of rights is nonsense, you twit.

Now, you may have come across some statements by Tories disagreeing with the validity of same sex marriage.

Well, because we live in a country with a tradition of allowing debate. What's the Muslim position on same-sex marriage? Oh, it's public execution.

[CollateralSandwich]

They just changed it to say Mohammed, after he calls you Kristi.

But he doesn't say Mohammed as if he is your friend.

I punched in Aaron, and he is MUCH friendlier.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

Wow they changed it!!

HAHAHAHAHA

[circushead]

What would be your definition of "friendly".

Would it be, "Hi Mohammed, how 'bout a handjob? Or would you like a nine-year old girl?"

[BoredomCorner]

Swearing and vulgarity, circushead? What was that about morals?

BTW The Bible depicts child marriage more than once as an okay thing too, so your argument against Muslims is not only ignorant but hypocritical; if Leviticus were followed to the letter, we'd be no different from the Taliban right now.

[circushead]

Oh, have I offended your delicate sensibilities. Tough shit, sharia offends mine.

There is a penultimate section of the Bible called 'The New Testament'. You will find all you need to know there with regards barbaric practices such as child marriage and polygamy.

[circushead]

Yes, you're right, if we were insane religious supremacists we'd be no different than the Taliban right now. But we aren't. And that makes all the difference. That's why you can post your paranoid ramblings about conspiracies that don't exist here. That's why we're better than they are, and that's why they hate us.

My advice to you is, don't help them.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

Having looked up the definition of Christy it means "Follower of Christ". This is a flagrant attack on Muslim Canadians. I have reported it to some media outlets but somehow I doubt it will get reported.

[harperfuntime]

(Christy...) is also short for the Greek names Christos meaning "anointed one" and Christiana meaning "follower of Christ".

[circushead]

You are unintentionally hilarious.

[TheElMoIsEviL]

You stumbled upon something my friend. If I type a name (my father's name) which is Native American "Aminiki". Mike Duffy simply says "Hello there". You're typing Mohammed which is also the name of the Muslim Prophet and Mike Duffy says "Christy" which means "Christ-like". They're actually being bigoted and pushing their religion on you.

[circushead]

Horseshit.