People fighting how accurte the movie is, its a movie. It's based off the true story of the Lafayette Escadrille, which were a group of Americans that volunteered for the French Military before the US entered the War in 1917.
I wonder....if the Chap in the Red Triplane who shook his head in disgust was Supposed to be Braron Von Richtofen? By all accounts he was a Gentleman, His side and ours........
Hey thanks for stealing a Canadian story and tweaking just a little so you can call it American. But thats ok the U.S is blind to any other countrys history or contribution in that war or the 2nd
@MadeoOnTheRadeo Yes thank you because thats what I was getting at with my comment. So a random writre from the movie can read it and make another movie, that is exactly it you useless fuck stain. No I comment it because it was the truth. Learn some history outside your own.
@IIzZigZagZzII lol yeah im SO mad thats why I type in all caps like some 14old kid. But again I just commented it because its the truth. Whats sad is that you fail to see that.
@Orlor you should see my grandmother being scared by a canadair plane flying low to get some water, and she try to outrun it by running in the same direction *facepalm*
ww1 did NOT have AA guns, they used artillery guns not those strange ass cannons that you see and therefore they did not shoot down many planes, they just pissed them off
There is a mix of German markings. The red Fokker Dr I's have the older type of crosses, while the black Fokker has the later, straight crosses used toward the end of the war..
The CGI artists appearently were no pilots or had researched flying. Often the rudders on the planes are pointed in totally wrong directions for the maneuvers executed.
The wings of the mock-up Nieuports on the ground are hanging down. One can easily see whithch is the real aircraft. It has straight wings...
when he yells out 'yahoo' after he has glided to a crash landing, that's actually the directer shouting it. this particular director always has one voiceover of him in every movie he makes. its said in teh commentary, lol.
Hey, I dunno if anyone noticed it, but the German pilot of the black triplane is a parody of Hermann Goering, you can know this because he had a black Albatros in ww1, and also cuz Goering had the ideal of killing his enemies, he always thought that the pilot you don´t kill today, will be an enemy tomorrow again.
actualy, shoot a pilot on the ground, or a parachute in ww2, was done in both sides, and critisized in both side. When the red baron was flying on his famous red focker dr1, he was most of the time flying alone, looking from up for lonely planes down his altitude, and when he was leading, and its a bit unusal, he was flying a focker but leading a squadron flying albatros. And yes, he was the only one to have a totaly red plane, not like in this movy.but I'm gonna watch it anyway! :)
4:35 WHAT THE HELL? he would never shoot a pilot!!! i haven't seen the movie but in this scene it seems that germans are shown as aggressive killers?! It never was like this
@MarsImperator2 , unfortunately, its not the most irealistic thing in this video, there were thousands of pilots and not all of them were angels, in life nothing is all white or all black, its most of the time grey!!!!! :) but it was something that most of the pilots, on both sides, didnt respect at all, of course! such as shooting parachute in ww2, it was even forbiden, by the geneve convention, but still a few did it. even in the air, war is still an atrocity....
@MarsImperator2 If you noticed, as soon as he is flying strate and level, the red tri comes along side and shakes his head as if to say "shame". I dont agree with the idea that it shows all the german pilots as murderers. they had their bad apples, SAME AS US! We just happened not to be led by someone who wanted to rule everything.
jop i was kinda shocked when i wrote this comment^^
You're right, but actually Kaiser Wilhelm II was not interested in ruling the world. That was Hitler. the reasons for WW1 are very complicated. but all in all it's true: both sides were the same
i hate how they make germans look like barbarians with no feeling and always lose cause their "bad" guys i mean their both humans plus germans arent "bad" people and they won most dogfights...
@jasincl durin a war there are indeed no bad guys. that picture is made after the war. and this i a post-war movie, and the germans lost the war, so they are painted as badguys. if the germans had won, it was the other way around... and the germans won because of their smarter officers and their better (dutch) airplanes...
The Red Baron is the only one who's supposed to have a red fokker.. they got it all switched up, cause I see multiple red planes with the swastika and one black plane? lol okay...
watched this in History class. 3/5. and correct me if im wrong, but isnt it only the red barron who gets a red plane? like why is everyone red and 1 black plane? i think they got it mixed up
@UnkownSoldier117 Yeah that really ruined the movie for me too. Im sure they did it cause the average American wouldnt notice the difference. Now "Red Baron", they cant get away with that shit in Germany. So all the dr1's are diffrent color.
@JDonzsabres10 No. Richthofens "Flying Circus" did NOT have only red aircraft. They had their aircraft painted in all kinds of brigtht colours. Not even The Red Baron himself did always fly in a completely red aircraft. The one he was shot down in was red. That's why it became so famous.
@UnkownSoldier117 You're right - well, at least one in that distinctive red-and-white paint job starting with his Albatros. Also, if I remember my facts correctly, there should not have been THAT many Fokker triplanes in a single squadron. I read up on the Triplane once and from what I recall it was a prototype design that was never produced in such great numbers and usually assigned to ace German pilots - I could be wrong, though, and if someone knows better, please feel free to correct me.
@UnkownSoldier117 The extras, if you rent the DVD, contain an interview in which the director explains that they felt audiences would be confused as to who was whom unless they did something like make the Germans all red triplanes! What a bonehead decision that was! All that work for top-notch CG - even the close-ups of pilots in planes are computer images - and they figure the people who would watch this film couldn't tell, say, an Albatross with crosses from a Nieuport with roundels.
@UnkownSoldier117 i know you posted this a long time ago, but they said in the dvd commentary that it was for clarity. they just didn't want people to get confused, so they did that. there are also a lot of tracer shots in this scene for the same reason.
@UnkownSoldier117 It's for the audience who aren't familiar with the history The Red Baron is a familiar motif so it helps less knowledgeable people know who the Germans are
@UnkownSoldier117 .... its world war 1 yea of course there was alot of red german planes but the red baron was before dont u think they would start to build more fighter planes
@UnkownSoldier117 "Wtf? why is there multiple red german planes? Only the red baron had a red plane." No, the Red Baron was not the only one with a red aircraft. Almost all of the pilots of Fighter Squadron Jasta 11 (von Richthofen commanded Jasta 11) painted at least parts of their aircraft red, if not the entire aircraft.
comment to ArodWingfoot, the WW1biplanes were also nicknamed flying coffins, well that is what i read in a large volume book about WW1a few years ago.
Liked watching it but really they should have done at least a little research. Every German plane was a red triplane. ??? The Germans flew few triplanes, they weren't very fast, and they sure as hell didn't paint them all red. IF anything, like the foker, they painted them camoflauge so you coudn't seen them below. You paint your plane so its visible to the enemy. Only the red baron did this.
Still fun movie, although i wish he got the girl in the end. I like her.
@titsxyxyxyxtits Strafing a downed pilot was simply not done. It still isn't. It's murder. He was out of the fight already. But then the Black Falcon was portrayed that way to make you hate him. In reality there was no such ace.
@dixievfd55 It reminds me of that scene in "The Patriot" where the evil British soldiers lock the Americans in a church and burn them alive. Nothing but a stupid, hamfisted ploy on the part of people who apparently think moviegoers are too dumb to grasp the ambiguities of war and draw their own conclusions.
@TanzDerSchatten That and they also think we are too stupid to recognize which planes are the enemy. I think they were the ones with the big black cross on them. Instead they make a mockery of the Baron by making ALL the German planes red.
do you know an "historial" movie from Hollywood & even from the USA who is accurate ?
Me no...
and since much more decades ^^
always especially if the USA are concerned a movie who change the true History to deserve a tribute & the nice roles always for the American or the anglo-saxons ^^
Propagandas movies quite simply :-)
but it's true , this movie is in spite of that & in the fields of pictures and scenes (especially the Air Fight) "fantastique" to see !!
The men who flew bi-planes back in these's days were true pilots cause they knew the dangers of flying in them especailly during the war. This movie also sparked my interest in bi-planes and I'm a girl!
@Waluigisgirl1 what does you being a girl have anything to do with it, it's not weird that a girl is interested in planes what is this the fucking 50s.
Race didnt matter to the french? Ok, accepting that, as the US was still a segregated society, Its very unlikly that a Negro would have attained the level of education need to fly the plane in the first place.
Assuming the french trained him, why would he want to fight for France? Does he share Frances grudge at losing the Franco-Prussian war?
@AryanEuropa14 Ya, like the farmboy main character had the level of education nesscery to fly a plane either
They give a perfectly rational reason for why he wanted to fight for france in the movie, he was better off in france, where racism is of a muhc lower caliber then US.
Sorry that a neo nazi cant accept the fact that a blackman was out there shooting germans, but it did happen.
@powereater lower caliber? In what sense can racism be of a lower caliber? He could hold more jobs in France than the US? Ride the bus? Can you provide sources for the flying negroes? Im not doubting it happened, I would like to read more about it.
@AryanEuropa14 he wanted to fight for France because France had given him far more opportunities than the U.S so he wanted to "give back to the country".
it really sucked to be a pilot back then. and i dont get why they all keep letting the enemy catch them in a dive. thats a big no no since the bullets go even faster.
The visual effects for this were pretty low-grade at best. It's sad that this movie came out "after" Pearl Harbor and that Pearl Harbor looked realistic in just about every aspect. It looked like every plane in this movie was computer animated. You can't tell me they couldn't build these planes for this movie.
@RehobothBum2004 The effects aren't all that bad, but I agree, they could have been better. Also, sure they could have built replicas for the movie, but goodluck getting anyone to fly them that close together, if you can get anyone to fly them at all. Most pilots in modern times won't fly a plane with wood and fabric construction.
it seems modern hollywood is incapable of special effects that are realistic. as another poster has correctly noted, those close flak bursts would have splintered the planes. and the swarms (they look like bees, or maybe wasps, but not WW1 aircraft) going at each other...please. many factual errors, also. if you want a cool WW1 flying film, go with the Blue Max. cheers!
@MrPufpastry Flak shells don´t have to score direct since the shell is preset to explode on a certain altitude sending shrapnels in all directions when it does and that plane would most likely not look so good after a close hit.
Anyway... it´s not supposed to be a realistic movie I think... More of an entertainment flick :)
@pharoah246 no, it wouldn't have. the type of flak that the Germans used at the time this movie is set were not as powerful as they were in WW2. I this where in real life, adnd if they were flying at that altitude, the force of teh flak wouldn't include much upward motion. you notice that Rawling's plane is forced upwards by the blast, but not enough to cause serious damage to his aircraft.
i havent seen this movie, but just from seeing the clip you sure have a whole lot more respect for the guys that did that!...I don't know if i could bring myself to watch this movie though..
the movie takes place in 1916-1917 and the red fokker triplane was only issued to the german pilots in late 1917.+ they were never made in such mass quantities
2nd Lieutenant Eugene Bullard flew as american volunteer pilot of french Lafayette Flying Corps IN the french Aéronautique armed force, not as a member of the american Lafayette Escadrille.
What I meant was that although there were hundreds of Fokker Triplanes built and flown, only one was painted red and that was Von Richthoven. Most had a patchwork hexagonal pattern of brown, black, white and green.
@Rhubba I'm sorry, but you're wrong...there were many colours of Fokker Dr.I, but MOST weren't in the lozenge (hexagonal) pattern....in fact, few were...most were in the streaky finish that Fokker applied at the factory...diagonal streaks of green dope over a base colour.
this was the FIRST world war and recently the last Briish survivor or whatever died and many died before him. The maker obviously can't get every single detail right in this movie
This movie hasn´t even the huge and big details right, loopylilme.
Massive historical and technical inaccuracies are not the only worse things in this movie.
Those massive inaccuracies allone would fill books.
Cringeworthy hero dialgues, a seldom seen chlichee-overkill and other ridiculous and childish kindergarten stuff makes this the worst war movie attempt beside the horrible movie "U-571".
This movie was made for children who have never ever heard of all the brilliant older WWI movies.
Well, since we're all jumping on the "bash Flyboys" bandwagon...
The flak burst at :47 should have blown half that Nieuport apart, at the VERY least destroyed the lower wing. The Nieuport line were fun little fighters (underpowered but agile) that had very weak lower wings which would twist and break off in abrupt or sustained high-g maneuvers.
That aside, I still thought the movie was fun even though it was totally cliche. Hell, Flyboys love story was 100 times better than Star Wars: AOTC.
poor guy on ground. But he could have survived, if he ran in the direction of the enemy fighter. Ground strafing goes everytimes straight and if he passed the area, he would have been safe.
He was so close that the german must have pulled down too hard, or he smashed the ground.
But seriously: who would ran towards an enemy fighter?
i hate how some parts of media have potential to be freakin awesome ... like this movie ... but they ruin it by making the actors act like morons. from what ive seen, these pilots act like cowboys and action heroes or wannabe comedians, that to me makes this movie unrealistic
This is like watching a stars wars movie, 1917''s version. The strafing on the poor boy, totally fictious. There was a code of honour in those days about not strafing someone on the ground once downed. But it's enjoyable, and they show 2nd Lt. Eugene Bullard, the only black pilot in WWI, and that's remarkable. They should have shown too "Jimmy" the little monkey that would always go w/ him in flight! Cheers!
why when a german plane gets hit inmediatly burns and fall down? because when the "good" pilots get hit, they die bleeding and the plane keep moving on for a while without burn
This movie was such a massive Hollywood fuck-up. Over-dramatized, inaccurate, over-CGI'ed.
DeathToLiberalism 1 week ago
So all german planes are red now? ok.....
mr9396 2 months ago
People fighting how accurte the movie is, its a movie. It's based off the true story of the Lafayette Escadrille, which were a group of Americans that volunteered for the French Military before the US entered the War in 1917.
Vassilli42 2 months ago
I wonder....if the Chap in the Red Triplane who shook his head in disgust was Supposed to be Braron Von Richtofen? By all accounts he was a Gentleman, His side and ours........
TheBubba68 3 months ago
2:09 GERMANS WOOD NEVER DO THAT DON'T ME JUDGEMENTAL U BLOODY AMERICAN PRICS
pearlpaiste2000 5 months ago
i wish the americans were flying Spad VII not nieuport 11
pearlpaiste2000 5 months ago
I don`t think they care about rel history in the movie because of all the red triplanes
coycoy75basualdo 5 months ago
Hey thanks for stealing a Canadian story and tweaking just a little so you can call it American. But thats ok the U.S is blind to any other countrys history or contribution in that war or the 2nd
IIzZigZagZzII 5 months ago
...keep complaining I'm sure ALL the writers will consider your anonymous you tube comment when they decide to make a movie.
MadeoOnTheRadeo 5 months ago
@MadeoOnTheRadeo Yes thank you because thats what I was getting at with my comment. So a random writre from the movie can read it and make another movie, that is exactly it you useless fuck stain. No I comment it because it was the truth. Learn some history outside your own.
IIzZigZagZzII 4 months ago
You know what's funny? You are SO mad because of one little comment ahahahaha
MadeoOnTheRadeo 4 months ago
@IIzZigZagZzII lol yeah im SO mad thats why I type in all caps like some 14old kid. But again I just commented it because its the truth. Whats sad is that you fail to see that.
IIzZigZagZzII 4 months ago
in ww1 all german pilots or aces were honourable not like that dr.1 thats black
ps nice lookin on 2
pearlpaiste2000 5 months ago
this can't be early in ww1 at 0:24 theres the wreck of a british MK.IV tank
pearlpaiste2000 5 months ago
4:50 im with Franz Wolferd: >:I <unh unh unh)
Dusty9261 6 months ago
Ok...Logic 101: When on the ground being strafed by a WWI airplane, you do not, I repeat, do not run in the same direction that the plane is flying.
Orlor 7 months ago 6
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hatmonkey 4 weeks ago
@Orlor you should see my grandmother being scared by a canadair plane flying low to get some water, and she try to outrun it by running in the same direction *facepalm*
elasolezito 4 days ago
crap
MyFoodsRtouching 7 months ago
wow the German pilot has no Honor he kills his opponents whether they can fight back or not.
SSHector88 8 months ago
wow! if only this movie had gotten the same advertising power that Green Lantern is getting..who knows?...best picture?.
MAY1EXPRES 8 months ago
As far as the black pilot was concerned, I forget his name but his nickname was "The Black Swallow of Death." I guess he was that good.
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I liked this movie, but it was really historically inaccurate.
flyforce16 9 months ago
he is so hottttttttttttttttttt
babyboychew15 9 months ago
If you have any understanding of flying don't bother with the movie.
gnarkillkicksass 9 months ago
if this movie was realistic, the battle would be over when the flak would have started hitting the aircraft
fidan2fast 11 months ago
complete crud. a black guy? yeah right.
and german planes strafing a downed pilot?
this is just utterly ignorant and horrendous. and the unconvincing cgi bullet trails. give me a damn break.
zackhanscom 11 months ago
@zackhanscom and don't forget, all the planes are red and Fokker DR1 kind, except one bad black plane, the leader of the bad guys LOL
fidan2fast 11 months ago
ww1 did NOT have AA guns, they used artillery guns not those strange ass cannons that you see and therefore they did not shoot down many planes, they just pissed them off
TheX3Gamer 11 months ago
@TheX3Gamer That's a 90mm Flak gun (Capable of Anti-Tank and Anti-Air.) sherm HEAD.
PlushGallade 11 months ago
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Where king kong?
AndyTheShyGuy 1 year ago
Where king kong?
AndyTheShyGuy 1 year ago
There is a mix of German markings. The red Fokker Dr I's have the older type of crosses, while the black Fokker has the later, straight crosses used toward the end of the war..
YDDES 1 year ago
The CGI artists appearently were no pilots or had researched flying. Often the rudders on the planes are pointed in totally wrong directions for the maneuvers executed.
The wings of the mock-up Nieuports on the ground are hanging down. One can easily see whithch is the real aircraft. It has straight wings...
YDDES 1 year ago
Best movie i ever seen so far :O some1 else know any good fly movie with alot of dogfights from WW1 or WW2? :)
kimkim283 1 year ago
@kimkim283 The Red Baron comes to mind, but there weren't that many dogfights, although it was about the greatest fighter pilot in history.
gamer10166 1 year ago
when he yells out 'yahoo' after he has glided to a crash landing, that's actually the directer shouting it. this particular director always has one voiceover of him in every movie he makes. its said in teh commentary, lol.
squigy97 1 year ago
Pure Hollywood with barely a nod toward reality, structural integrity of these planes, or basic flying physics. So very typical.
Ironbudokan 1 year ago
Epic movie.
kthxbye1000 1 year ago
Hey, I dunno if anyone noticed it, but the German pilot of the black triplane is a parody of Hermann Goering, you can know this because he had a black Albatros in ww1, and also cuz Goering had the ideal of killing his enemies, he always thought that the pilot you don´t kill today, will be an enemy tomorrow again.
condoritohuevoduro 1 year ago
That's right. Anthony Fokker designed the "interrupter gear'
MrHood1001 1 year ago
Black guy flying? ya right
bangerrify 1 year ago
@bangerrify Yeah, even though this story isn't completely accurate, it was based off a true story that black guy really did Fly in WWI
TheSingaLegend 1 year ago 9
@TheSingaLegend that's the problem, why base a movie on a true story if nothing in the movie is true, except for the main facts?
fidan2fast 11 months ago
@TheSingaLegend still looks like a boring lemon party =)
kcuskcid0 6 days ago
@bangerrify
wow you're a dumbass
TikiShootah 9 months ago
I love this part, especially as my great great uncle was in the british RFC.
wackyjacky3000 1 year ago
sometimes I just wonder how bullets can pass through the propellers
daerobest1 1 year ago
@daerobest1
there was a mechanism that only allowed the gun to fire while the propeller wasn't in the way. I don't know too much about it though.
B4gle 1 year ago
@B4gle this is interesting eyh? n many people did'nt notice that the bullets actually goin through the propellers n not deflected to the pilots head!
daerobest1 1 year ago
@daerobest1 They had a gearbox that prevented the guns from firing when the prop was in front of the muzzle. Think Fokker originally designed it.
Matt0435 1 year ago
The visuals are good but the plot was a tad bit weak.
DaddyWalrusguy 1 year ago
actualy, shoot a pilot on the ground, or a parachute in ww2, was done in both sides, and critisized in both side. When the red baron was flying on his famous red focker dr1, he was most of the time flying alone, looking from up for lonely planes down his altitude, and when he was leading, and its a bit unusal, he was flying a focker but leading a squadron flying albatros. And yes, he was the only one to have a totaly red plane, not like in this movy.but I'm gonna watch it anyway! :)
matydrum 1 year ago
4:35 WHAT THE HELL? he would never shoot a pilot!!! i haven't seen the movie but in this scene it seems that germans are shown as aggressive killers?! It never was like this
MarsImperator2 1 year ago
@MarsImperator2 , unfortunately, its not the most irealistic thing in this video, there were thousands of pilots and not all of them were angels, in life nothing is all white or all black, its most of the time grey!!!!! :) but it was something that most of the pilots, on both sides, didnt respect at all, of course! such as shooting parachute in ww2, it was even forbiden, by the geneve convention, but still a few did it. even in the air, war is still an atrocity....
matydrum 1 year ago
@MarsImperator2 If you noticed, as soon as he is flying strate and level, the red tri comes along side and shakes his head as if to say "shame". I dont agree with the idea that it shows all the german pilots as murderers. they had their bad apples, SAME AS US! We just happened not to be led by someone who wanted to rule everything.
mauriceshoup 11 months ago
@mauriceshoup
jop i was kinda shocked when i wrote this comment^^
You're right, but actually Kaiser Wilhelm II was not interested in ruling the world. That was Hitler. the reasons for WW1 are very complicated. but all in all it's true: both sides were the same
MarsImperator2 11 months ago
Red Baron is much better. I like this movie, but to much unrealistic moves.
Limpmania 1 year ago
i hate how they make germans look like barbarians with no feeling and always lose cause their "bad" guys i mean their both humans plus germans arent "bad" people and they won most dogfights...
jasincl 1 year ago
@jasincl durin a war there are indeed no bad guys. that picture is made after the war. and this i a post-war movie, and the germans lost the war, so they are painted as badguys. if the germans had won, it was the other way around... and the germans won because of their smarter officers and their better (dutch) airplanes...
Prinsgezindepatriot 1 year ago
The Red Baron is the only one who's supposed to have a red fokker.. they got it all switched up, cause I see multiple red planes with the swastika and one black plane? lol okay...
LaylaNevaGives 1 year ago
@LaylaNevaGives
swastikas(before hitler) where a symbol of luck in german and scandinavian cultures
MarsImperator2 1 year ago
was it the red baron flying with that black plane at 4:50 ?
magicstorm1 1 year ago
i liked the movie, its all that matters.=D
mageguy3 1 year ago
watched this in History class. 3/5. and correct me if im wrong, but isnt it only the red barron who gets a red plane? like why is everyone red and 1 black plane? i think they got it mixed up
ACX352395 1 year ago
Wtf? why is there multiple red german planes? Only the red baron had a red plane.
UnkownSoldier117 1 year ago 18
@UnkownSoldier117 Yeah that really ruined the movie for me too. Im sure they did it cause the average American wouldnt notice the difference. Now "Red Baron", they cant get away with that shit in Germany. So all the dr1's are diffrent color.
lexevo 1 year ago
@UnkownSoldier117 Plus those planes should have been Albatrosses, not DR. 1s.
dixievfd55 1 year ago
@UnkownSoldier117 They had a few red Fokker Dr.1 in the squadron from Manfred von Richthofen, because one red airplane is very striking ....
SUPERMEINNAME 1 year ago
@UnkownSoldier117 No, the Flying Circus, which was a fighter squadron commanded by the Red Baron (Manfred von Richthofen) all had red planes.
JDonzsabres10 1 year ago
@JDonzsabres10 No. Richthofens "Flying Circus" did NOT have only red aircraft. They had their aircraft painted in all kinds of brigtht colours. Not even The Red Baron himself did always fly in a completely red aircraft. The one he was shot down in was red. That's why it became so famous.
YDDES 1 year ago
@UnkownSoldier117 You're right - well, at least one in that distinctive red-and-white paint job starting with his Albatros. Also, if I remember my facts correctly, there should not have been THAT many Fokker triplanes in a single squadron. I read up on the Triplane once and from what I recall it was a prototype design that was never produced in such great numbers and usually assigned to ace German pilots - I could be wrong, though, and if someone knows better, please feel free to correct me.
heavyarms01h 1 year ago
@UnkownSoldier117 The extras, if you rent the DVD, contain an interview in which the director explains that they felt audiences would be confused as to who was whom unless they did something like make the Germans all red triplanes! What a bonehead decision that was! All that work for top-notch CG - even the close-ups of pilots in planes are computer images - and they figure the people who would watch this film couldn't tell, say, an Albatross with crosses from a Nieuport with roundels.
carmium 11 months ago
@UnkownSoldier117 legit
TheX3Gamer 11 months ago
@UnkownSoldier117 i know you posted this a long time ago, but they said in the dvd commentary that it was for clarity. they just didn't want people to get confused, so they did that. there are also a lot of tracer shots in this scene for the same reason.
Skrakjaw7 9 months ago
@UnkownSoldier117 It's for the audience who aren't familiar with the history The Red Baron is a familiar motif so it helps less knowledgeable people know who the Germans are
DasFuhrerinagstring 9 months ago
@UnkownSoldier117 actually he was the first with a red 200-300 red folker were made
JackGallo71 9 months ago
@UnkownSoldier117 That guy in the red plane with the swords in 4:50 is the "Red Baron" you talking about.
Elbrusbase 7 months ago
@UnkownSoldier117 serch the fliyng circus, there more tha one with red planes, but not an entire air force
and i have something to say, the fokker dr 1, was not the only one with the german air force
lavsivrack 7 months ago
@UnkownSoldier117 .... its world war 1 yea of course there was alot of red german planes but the red baron was before dont u think they would start to build more fighter planes
MJOM77 5 months ago
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@UnkownSoldier117 "Wtf? why is there multiple red german planes? Only the red baron had a red plane." No, the Red Baron was not the only one with a red aircraft. Almost all of the pilots of Fighter Squadron Jasta 11 (von Richthofen commanded Jasta 11) painted at least parts of their aircraft red, if not the entire aircraft.
FirstToken 5 months ago
why are all the fokkers red?
fidan2fast 1 year ago
@fidan2fast
they germans cloned the red baron XD
xomanowar42 1 year ago
it's a really good movie, with such brilliant acotrs and an emotional plot. the special effects were bed? WHO CARES??
MaryMusic88 1 year ago
ze evil german at 4:35
ziherr 1 year ago
@ziherr oh god other american who thinks germans are evil.. i was born in the USA but i dont think germans are "Evil"
jasincl 1 year ago
@jasincl i was just joking:)
ziherr 1 year ago
comment to ArodWingfoot, the WW1biplanes were also nicknamed flying coffins, well that is what i read in a large volume book about WW1a few years ago.
BigSteve02 1 year ago
my friend was in this, he played jacques.
I used to know him.
xIIKayze 1 year ago
Je préfère "Red Baron".
VietnamAirForce 1 year ago
i think it funny how much americans they try to fit into a film about a french squadron (i am american)
3ISAMAGICNUMBR 1 year ago
@3ISAMAGICNUMBR maybe you should watch the movie...and realize that most of the characters signed up for Lafayette Escadrille ...
THEBIRDMAN9412 1 year ago
Liked watching it but really they should have done at least a little research. Every German plane was a red triplane. ??? The Germans flew few triplanes, they weren't very fast, and they sure as hell didn't paint them all red. IF anything, like the foker, they painted them camoflauge so you coudn't seen them below. You paint your plane so its visible to the enemy. Only the red baron did this.
Still fun movie, although i wish he got the girl in the end. I like her.
xvoy2002 1 year ago
Great movie. Yeah they are flying Nieuports but they are painted to resemble Spad's :p Not very accurate but who said that movies were?
FrozenArts 1 year ago
Beware the Hun in the Sun.
dixievfd55 1 year ago
I just watched this movie. Amazing show!
Rmazer555 1 year ago
Bullshit Scene at 4:30
titsxyxyxyxtits 1 year ago
@titsxyxyxyxtits Strafing a downed pilot was simply not done. It still isn't. It's murder. He was out of the fight already. But then the Black Falcon was portrayed that way to make you hate him. In reality there was no such ace.
dixievfd55 1 year ago
Both the Japanese and the Germans practiced shooting ejected pilots in WW2.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
@dixievfd55 It reminds me of that scene in "The Patriot" where the evil British soldiers lock the Americans in a church and burn them alive. Nothing but a stupid, hamfisted ploy on the part of people who apparently think moviegoers are too dumb to grasp the ambiguities of war and draw their own conclusions.
TanzDerSchatten 1 year ago
@TanzDerSchatten That and they also think we are too stupid to recognize which planes are the enemy. I think they were the ones with the big black cross on them. Instead they make a mockery of the Baron by making ALL the German planes red.
dixievfd55 1 year ago
pretty stupid scene.
macabresoul1 1 year ago
Even though as you history buffs all know, the movie was historically inaccurate, but it's a good movie, though.
Raidmasterprod 1 year ago
@Raidmasterprod
do you know an "historial" movie from Hollywood & even from the USA who is accurate ?
Me no...
and since much more decades ^^
always especially if the USA are concerned a movie who change the true History to deserve a tribute & the nice roles always for the American or the anglo-saxons ^^
Propagandas movies quite simply :-)
but it's true , this movie is in spite of that & in the fields of pictures and scenes (especially the Air Fight) "fantastique" to see !!
cumbas 1 year ago
@cumbas Yeah, and hey, Spatacus wiht Kirk Douglas was historically inaccurate, but that was a great film!
Raidmasterprod 1 year ago
The men who flew bi-planes back in these's days were true pilots cause they knew the dangers of flying in them especailly during the war. This movie also sparked my interest in bi-planes and I'm a girl!
Waluigisgirl1 1 year ago
@Waluigisgirl1 what does you being a girl have anything to do with it, it's not weird that a girl is interested in planes what is this the fucking 50s.
GunRyd3r 1 year ago
@GunRyd3r Sorry I didn't mean to offend you
Waluigisgirl1 1 year ago
@Waluigisgirl1 would that make you a bi girl? lol
hotty198 1 year ago
dows anyone know if JF did his own stunts in this movie? i heard that somewhere but i thought it was all animated flying scenes?
builtstrong2lastlong 1 year ago
why are there 5 red barons?
guywithtights 1 year ago
i jus saw this movie in dschool =D
iwuzme 1 year ago
Race didnt matter to the french? Ok, accepting that, as the US was still a segregated society, Its very unlikly that a Negro would have attained the level of education need to fly the plane in the first place.
Assuming the french trained him, why would he want to fight for France? Does he share Frances grudge at losing the Franco-Prussian war?
AryanEuropa14 2 years ago
@AryanEuropa14 Ya, like the farmboy main character had the level of education nesscery to fly a plane either
They give a perfectly rational reason for why he wanted to fight for france in the movie, he was better off in france, where racism is of a muhc lower caliber then US.
Sorry that a neo nazi cant accept the fact that a blackman was out there shooting germans, but it did happen.
powereater 1 year ago
@powereater lower caliber? In what sense can racism be of a lower caliber? He could hold more jobs in France than the US? Ride the bus? Can you provide sources for the flying negroes? Im not doubting it happened, I would like to read more about it.
AryanEuropa14 1 year ago
@AryanEuropa14 Actully watch the movie before you comment, he tells you how he was better off in France.
eugene bullard was the only black pilot in WW1.
powereater 1 year ago
@AryanEuropa14 he wanted to fight for France because France had given him far more opportunities than the U.S so he wanted to "give back to the country".
oldmanwithers1 1 year ago
1:30
lolwut a nigger on a plane
thought they didnt let blacks serve in the army let alone the airforce :p
paydafee 2 years ago
@paydafee This force was American volunteers for the French, to the French race didn't matter.
c150ace 2 years ago
it really sucked to be a pilot back then. and i dont get why they all keep letting the enemy catch them in a dive. thats a big no no since the bullets go even faster.
Damuse8191 2 years ago
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Was Jennifer Decker's character of Lucienne real or was she just made up to serve as a romance?
LiscenceToGrill 2 years ago
2:03 best part
c150ace 2 years ago
lol, just joking.Stereotypes in action. Good multicultural allies against bad nazigerman blonde guys.
ecthelion2005 2 years ago
Those nazis were really bad people...
ecthelion2005 2 years ago
@ecthelion2005 this is world war 1 there where no nazi's yet that was in world war 2
fireguitar11 2 years ago
This movie doesn´t seem very realistic now does it?
Matt0435 2 years ago
The visual effects for this were pretty low-grade at best. It's sad that this movie came out "after" Pearl Harbor and that Pearl Harbor looked realistic in just about every aspect. It looked like every plane in this movie was computer animated. You can't tell me they couldn't build these planes for this movie.
RehobothBum2004 2 years ago
@RehobothBum2004 The effects aren't all that bad, but I agree, they could have been better. Also, sure they could have built replicas for the movie, but goodluck getting anyone to fly them that close together, if you can get anyone to fly them at all. Most pilots in modern times won't fly a plane with wood and fabric construction.
anubis502502 1 year ago
it seems modern hollywood is incapable of special effects that are realistic. as another poster has correctly noted, those close flak bursts would have splintered the planes. and the swarms (they look like bees, or maybe wasps, but not WW1 aircraft) going at each other...please. many factual errors, also. if you want a cool WW1 flying film, go with the Blue Max. cheers!
undreadSP 2 years ago 2
@undreadSP
Yeah I love how those flak bursts were going off right under the wings of those stick and cloth planes but were not even damaged.
lay3Rv2 2 years ago
Black fellow stole the plain
B17Hunter 2 years ago 2
I love the bullet effects.
wadad17 2 years ago
4:37 pwned.
ThreeEvils398 2 years ago
Can someone remind me who "Taco?" is at 2:07 that got killed?
pharoah246 2 years ago
The flak hit on the underside of the plane at 0:47 should've ripped his right set of wings clean off...
pharoah246 2 years ago 19
@pharoah246 It's a good movie, but, yes, the flak was a bit hard to believe. Even in WWII, a burst that close would have perforated a wing.
dixievfd55 1 year ago
@pharoah246 Woulda done more than that. Planes in those days where little more than canvas and strings.
ArodWingfoot 1 year ago
@pharoah246 If you look closely the flak doesn't hit the plane it just misses otherwise yes his wing would have been torn off.
MrPufpastry 1 year ago
@MrPufpastry Flak shells don´t have to score direct since the shell is preset to explode on a certain altitude sending shrapnels in all directions when it does and that plane would most likely not look so good after a close hit.
Anyway... it´s not supposed to be a realistic movie I think... More of an entertainment flick :)
Matt0435 1 year ago
@pharoah246 im not that good at ww1 aircraft but the burst of the flak may have been to low to hit his wing and just caused a bounce
The0love0man 1 year ago
@pharoah246 no, it wouldn't have. the type of flak that the Germans used at the time this movie is set were not as powerful as they were in WW2. I this where in real life, adnd if they were flying at that altitude, the force of teh flak wouldn't include much upward motion. you notice that Rawling's plane is forced upwards by the blast, but not enough to cause serious damage to his aircraft.
squigy97 1 year ago
can't stop watching 2:07
dose that make me sick?
wwIIgamer1 2 years ago
i havent seen this movie, but just from seeing the clip you sure have a whole lot more respect for the guys that did that!...I don't know if i could bring myself to watch this movie though..
Airborngirl13 2 years ago
would it kill the allies to shoot?
bearhaulin120 2 years ago
the movie takes place in 1916-1917 and the red fokker triplane was only issued to the german pilots in late 1917.+ they were never made in such mass quantities
adamluxsick 2 years ago
one squad had only those trust me iv read lots about it
bearhaulin120 2 years ago
Only 300 some. A very low production number, and they were pulled when they had problems with wing collapses.
Hendo56 2 years ago
we watched it in social studies class.. kept us entertained lol
hoobalogginmedia 2 years ago 3
u guys are hating to much
sure it was cartooning and inaccurate but i still enjoyed it, made me more interested about hte war in the air during WW1. it was kinda cheesy tho
SupaTROopa2 2 years ago 8
It was very cheesy, but at least it was a film about WWI.
Other than "The Blue Max" and "All Quiet on the Western Front" I can't think of any other prominent WWI films.
tetrisclock 1 year ago
@tetrisclock i liked gallipoli
SupaTROopa2 1 year ago
those goggles look so funny lol
dajokn19 2 years ago
this movie sux like vacuum cleaner
MitchMaker 2 years ago
2nd Lieutenant Eugene Bullard flew as american volunteer pilot of french Lafayette Flying Corps IN the french Aéronautique armed force, not as a member of the american Lafayette Escadrille.
CaxiasFreguesia 2 years ago
The CGI looks awful and makes everything look like a cartoon. And there was only 1 red Fokker Triplane ever not a dozen like in this clip
Rhubba 2 years ago
Are u sure? The Fokker Triplane has not been only used by the Red Baron.
Doum92 2 years ago
What I meant was that although there were hundreds of Fokker Triplanes built and flown, only one was painted red and that was Von Richthoven. Most had a patchwork hexagonal pattern of brown, black, white and green.
Rhubba 2 years ago
Ok, thx for the info! ;)
Doum92 2 years ago
@Rhubba I'm sorry, but you're wrong...there were many colours of Fokker Dr.I, but MOST weren't in the lozenge (hexagonal) pattern....in fact, few were...most were in the streaky finish that Fokker applied at the factory...diagonal streaks of green dope over a base colour.
samuraikensai 2 years ago
this was the FIRST world war and recently the last Briish survivor or whatever died and many died before him. The maker obviously can't get every single detail right in this movie
loopylilme 2 years ago
This movie hasn´t even the huge and big details right, loopylilme.
Massive historical and technical inaccuracies are not the only worse things in this movie.
Those massive inaccuracies allone would fill books.
Cringeworthy hero dialgues, a seldom seen chlichee-overkill and other ridiculous and childish kindergarten stuff makes this the worst war movie attempt beside the horrible movie "U-571".
This movie was made for children who have never ever heard of all the brilliant older WWI movies.
megatwingo 2 years ago 3
Well, since we're all jumping on the "bash Flyboys" bandwagon...
The flak burst at :47 should have blown half that Nieuport apart, at the VERY least destroyed the lower wing. The Nieuport line were fun little fighters (underpowered but agile) that had very weak lower wings which would twist and break off in abrupt or sustained high-g maneuvers.
That aside, I still thought the movie was fun even though it was totally cliche. Hell, Flyboys love story was 100 times better than Star Wars: AOTC.
pdex2165 2 years ago
poor guy on ground. But he could have survived, if he ran in the direction of the enemy fighter. Ground strafing goes everytimes straight and if he passed the area, he would have been safe.
He was so close that the german must have pulled down too hard, or he smashed the ground.
But seriously: who would ran towards an enemy fighter?
Haniel93 2 years ago 2
reminds me of stupid cartoons; a tree is falling in front of them and they run back, when they can just step aside and go.
jrriojase 2 years ago
LOL 3:40
HyperDrive45 2 years ago
i hate how some parts of media have potential to be freakin awesome ... like this movie ... but they ruin it by making the actors act like morons. from what ive seen, these pilots act like cowboys and action heroes or wannabe comedians, that to me makes this movie unrealistic
BoReD2HaRd 2 years ago
The Red Baron was respected by both sides, Chivalry and honour, like already Stated, "A True Knight" of the skys.
shooting the guy on the ground would have never happened.
Timmeh705 2 years ago 4
This is like watching a stars wars movie, 1917''s version. The strafing on the poor boy, totally fictious. There was a code of honour in those days about not strafing someone on the ground once downed. But it's enjoyable, and they show 2nd Lt. Eugene Bullard, the only black pilot in WWI, and that's remarkable. They should have shown too "Jimmy" the little monkey that would always go w/ him in flight! Cheers!
GekkoKamen 2 years ago
The unarmed pilot should have lay down as long as he touched ground. He didn't remember he was in enemy land.
jhose87 2 years ago
why when a german plane gets hit inmediatly burns and fall down? because when the "good" pilots get hit, they die bleeding and the plane keep moving on for a while without burn
nenepedo 3 years ago 5