Inside USA - The battle for Harlem - 27 June 08 - Part 2

[happyheadpopper]

Im white and ive been drumming for 8 years, what a bunch of ballshit, its not the skin colour but yes it is the type of people living there. So, boring, stroppy rich people.

[Tsnore]

Has Hymie ever strolled through the heroin addicted neighborhoods of Vancouver, eh?

[shussey100]

whites should be killed, if they walk the street of black lands like Harlem. No doubt about it. Raise snipers on rooftops and kill them dead.

[ashken79]

they thought obama wld pay their gas bills!

[agentk1986]

How could those drums disturb someone in the middle of the day? It's not like they were playing them after dark when people are sleeping. That lady who complained acts like there is a percussion ensemble going on.

[rayswag]

@agentk1986 and its on a saturday

[rayswag]

@agentk1986 and its on a saturday

[MasterShakeMajor]

I feel the same way about traffic noise.

[suzieq0452]

It's a NEWS program and they have to get in the bit of NEWS,but like the host said at the beginning with the Election run up it's this kind of Reporting that doesn't get heard. Oh and letting the Drummers have the FINAL Word summed up how they are trying to rip the SOUL out of Harlem didn't need another 15 mins of anything else.

[SuperPower8927]

fuck us

[kittybookitty]

For some reasons, caucasians don't like drums, like the white lady he was talking about.

It's like some of them are allergic to rhythm. No offense, but i think the gentrification of harlem is a shame.

[ManoftheBeret]

Umm...Have you ever been to any kind of hippie festival? Fuck, ever been to the East Village?

[gigagroove]

@kittybookitty It's not white people that don't like drums. it's racists that want to stop a cultural sign that is specifically African in nature, that's my assumption. I know many whties who love African drumming, so that's not it at all. But the women, AMAZINGLY, has more clout that all these folks who've lived in Harlem for decades. Now tell me that Blacks are free and I'll tell you that's it's a joke. Most harlem police stations are just keeping Blacks down,

[Gulfporter]

@kittybookitty

Did you think it was a shame when the white neighborhoods went black and started to decay? Just about every black neighborhood in this country, and almost all of the better black neighborhoods used to be clean, safe, and white.

[bapyou]

@Gulfporter " ... every black neighborhood in this country, & almost all of the better black neighborhoods used to be clean, safe, & white."

You are an idiot who knows nothing about the history of cities. Nothing.

First: There are plenty of examples where, when blacks moved into an already white area, the blacks were attacked by the whites. So tell us again how "safe" these areas were, OK?

Second, when areas became majority black, city services declined. So tell us about cleanliness.

[Gulfporter]

@bapyou

City services declined because the tax base declined you moron. But only an idiotic afrocentric street boolie would blame the criminal behavior on how many times a week the garbage gets picked up. When blacks stop robbing, raping, and killing at 9 times the national average then get back to me on how black ghettoes are white people's fault. We moved away BECAUSE you ruined the neighborhoods. So what do you do? You follow us around. Amazing.

[bapyou]

@Gulfporter WHat's a "boolie"?

"When blacks stop robbing, raping, and killing at 9 times the national average then get back to me on how black ghettoes are white people's fault."

And the source of these "statistics" please? Was it that website called "PULL IT OUT YO ASS"?

"We moved away BECAUSE you ruined the neighborhoods. So what do you do? You follow us around."

Who is "we" exactly? Do you mean Americans? Or don't black folks count as Americans to you?

[Gulfporter]

@bapyou

"WHat's a "boolie"?"

I made it up because it sounds offensive. Feel free to use it anyway you wish.

[bapyou]

@Gulfporter Actually, you meant to write "bully," but you don't know how to spell, so it's not surprising.

With respect to tax base in "ghettoes," you're way off the mark. Most buildings in so-called ghettoes are owned by white landlords.

Further, I have been in many black neighborhoods in all parts of the country, and they are not all "ghettoes." There are black neighborhoods in Los Angeles that are truly magnificent.

Get out of your white enclave and travel. If you're not scared.

[Gulfporter]

@bapyou "Just about every" and "almost all" are both phrases which fall short of universal statements, because I am aware of nicer black neighborhoods. But dollar for dollar, they are still less than. You might move on up but you always bring a little ghetto with you.

As for "boolie" I've been using it for a long time. I also invented "svaz." Both are intended to be new euphemisms for "nigger". Boolie is a variation on "boogie" and svaz is a variation on the yiddish word for nigger.

[bapyou]

@Gulfporter " "boolie" (&) "svaz." ... are intended to be euphemisms for "nigger"."

Ohhh, I get it. You hate black people. Why write comment after comment of justifications? Be a man; speak your mind directly and without edit. C'mon, here you go: Repeat after me:

"I hate niggers."

(It's OK, no one else is reading this.) Say it again:

"I hate niggers."

There. Isn't that better? Don't you feel like a load's been lifted off your shoulders? Malcolm X preferred up front racists.

[Gulfporter]

@bapyou

Hate is too strong a word. It's amusing, though, you say the damnedest things about white people but get your panties in a knot when white people have a word with you about it.

Just the other day some mouthy bitch was doing the yap yap yap thing to some guy in the parking lot at the store. She upped the ante and called him a faggot. I was stunned, so I asked her how she would feel if he had called her a nigger. She started in on me but I think ghetto talk is funny. So I laughed.

[bapyou]

@Gulfporter "Hate is too strong a word."

No it isn't; it seems to fit your viewpoint on everything you've spouted here just fine. Like most of your ilk, you are disingenuous enough to disown your own expressions of hatred.

__

"Was Malcolm X the gay one?"

Sounds to me as if you have some issues. Keep your fantasies to yourself in this regard.

Further, answer my previous question:

Who is "we" exactly? By "we" do you mean Americans? Or don't black folks count as Americans to you?

[Gulfporter]

@bapyou

I still disagree. Hate would be reserved for a people with no redeeming qualities or potential. White people have simply accepted the rebellion of blacks and abdicated authority without abdication of responsibility. It's a recipe for poor results. It really is our fault, but not for the reason you would like to think.

[Gulfporter]

@bapyou

Was Malcolm X the gay one?

[Gulfporter]

@bapyou

"And the source of these "statistics" please? Was it that website called "PULL IT OUT YO ASS"?"

What an interesting debate style. Ask a question and then try to discount the answer before it's given. Perhaps you aren't actually interested in the truth. I have found that a great many people who find the reality to be in conflict with their philosophy or perception decide to deny the reality. It's not the most intellectual approach, but then consider the source.

[TheeAssyrian2000AD]

@bapyou Maybe when blacks stop being discrimintated against 100x more than wdhite people on jobs they won't do it okay! Those stats are propaganda made up by crackers to make it look like black men are the biggest rapist but you know white men have the biggest rapist history on the glob and that's true shit.

[JoanBeatrington001]

@kittybookitty White people dont like drums? rock music is a hugely popular genre for white people with drumming involved. Black people like drums when its a constant tedious computerized beat in the background as they are saying "uh uh yea watup now b diggy dig" ..

[analbeadsish]

@JoanBeatrington001 And who was it that invented rock music? Riiiiggghhht. You can shut up now.

[rayswag]

wats dis got 2 do wit harlem

[bulls007]

what the fuck does iran got to do wit harlem?

[gigagroove]

@bulls007 On the surface nothing. But when you see how rich nations control the world, you understand the micro and macro-economic principles at work. If you don't get educated you'll miss the forest for the trees. Power to the people. No disrespect intended just keeping it real and trying to empower you and others.

[gamehound83]

What the hell happened to the 1st half? If I wanted to hear about war or bullshit politics I would listen to Fox and their cocksucker founder Murdoch

[emilybarbar]

James David Manning is chief pastor at the ATLAH World Missionary Church on 123rd Street in New York City. ATLAH stands for All The Land Anointed Holy, which is God's name for Harlem.

[haitianzoezoe]

ARE YOU SERIOUS???

[saltzr]

Fucking Al-Jazerra, quit war mongering! And for once realize ur entire newswork is fucking slanted as shit and DRUMS R FUCKING ANNOYING

[haitianzoezoe]

ok his drums are annoying? but to who?? the locals seem to enjoy the music and have lived with it for over 30 years with no issue...these new comers come here expecting all the glory , this wasnt their area, year ago their were avoiding it , now they trying to take over, and their selfish and dont care about the working class, fuk those rich white yuppiesas and fuk condos , the drums were hear first, and the community did not have one problem with it , your comment is stupid

[FreeNiek]

Who cares about politics its a show to make you think you have a choise and are free. in fact america is a dictatorship realy simple the company's and there owners took over and controll the govenment media so controll the minds of everyone watching it. so logical simpel.

if you would all stand up it would be over in a day if you would all truely understand.

and the fact is =

WHEN DICTATORSHIP BECOMES A FACT.

REVOLUTION BECOMES A RIGHT.

OneLove!

[vaudree]

"It is not just a Bush policy" - it is Cheney policy.

Wonder why the American media is trying to promote a justification of war in Iran but ignoring the Harlem story?

Agree - the drums were there first.

[Joyness333]

Uh, what does the Iran issue have to do with Harlem?

[tacklinfuel1]

Iran is an old, historic nation and they crave respect from old colonial and new imperial countries in Europe and America. Direct, unconditional negotiations will go much further than most people think. There are many pragmatists in the Iranian majlis (parliament) and engaging them will move them to the forefront and weaken Ahmadinejad's reactionaries.

[DarkerOfTheMind]

The two 'main' candidates are both bought and paid for. They will usher in the 'New world order'

[Trottbrown]

scary how the US media supports the idea of more wars and is willing to show Obama as a weak candidate if he fails to threaten iran. Maybe the arms industry also owns the cbs and cnn conglomerates? what kind of media is that???

[mike19145]

I have smoke blowing from my ears, as my head expands to the point of explosion. I completely disagree with our foreign policy in the middle east, and specifically with Iran. It is astounding how the media can blind millions of people, and guide them to rally against a chosen scape goat. It happened with Saddam, and it will continue to occur with others. I also think Israel should be reprimanded for its open signs of aggression, and Iran should continue its quest for constructive Nuclear Energy.

[abcw828]

nice one, brother

[johnh23]

Get Israel in line with international law.

[nerdycub]

I have to completely agree with you. This country (America) is shoved so far up Israels' ass that we can't see the situation clearly.

Now I'm not bashing the PEOPLE of Israel. One of my best friends moved there and I went to vist her. The people of Israel are nice and hope for an end to the pointless conflict.

It's the politicians in Israel who use the power and acquaintance of America to get away with things that simply no other country could ever get away with.

[gr82bthe1st]

it is actually quite amazing how stupid america is! (lovely country, dont get me wrong! but a greedy country!) They say Iran should NOT have nuclear weapons, because they are a threat to Israel etc etc... how much of a threat is America to the world??? they have enough nuclear power to do over the world, let alone one country! who stands in their way? nobody! everyone just listens to them! it is about time that a country (Iran) stands up to their bullshit!

[CubaColombianito]

nobody should be aloud nuclear weapons.

[saibjai]

If you buy a house near a train station, you'd expect to hear the train. If you buy a house near the airport, you'd expect to hear airplanes. If you buy a house near a drummers area, EXPECT TO HEAR DRUMS.

[M3minusGrowth]

The Fascist oil companies want to steal Iran's oil just like they stole Iraq's oil by creating 9/11.

[Pkr]

Agree, but there must be a time and a place for everything such as curfew or late hour quiet time. As a community grows or a neighborhood grows we must empathize with the feelings others...

[surferray69]

There already is a curfew.just like there is a curfew in central park as well.

[Pkr]

So noises are confined to given hours....

[NWKBricks1]

Notice that they were in a place called "Drummer's Circle." What did that old lady think was going to be happening? Needlepoint? Another example of a person with way too much time on her hands.

[SDC121986]

Fox News has a sensationalist neocon slant. However, it was also evident that Aljazeera has a definite anti-American slant. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The more I think about it, the truth is actual far away from the childish banter and pointless recriminations. By the way, what the hell was that lady rambling about localization of Globalization? Nothing was explained, just a bunch of propaganda about Americans all being mindless dummies who obey the subliminal commands of Fox News.

[Morris1962]

Hit the nail on the head, as the saying goes.

[PhotonDrive]

Obsolete: News is Iran ALREADY has 19 armed Nuke missles,paid for by BUSH as "anti-Terrorist" funds to Pakistan!(This from North Korean archieve papers). More-over, Russia has secret pact to Nuke U.S. if attack made on Iran,and this almost happened two Saturdays ago! "Good News" is that Iran only has enough to wipe out Israel ONCE; while Israel can wipe out Iran THREE TIMES OVER! Didn't something like this occur back at end of "Kennedy Era"? Out of that came "Dentante" (Russia's suggestion).

[joej12a]

The Bush Administration is going to start a war with Iran just to get a guy with an R next to his name in the white house.

[MrSumbody]

I'm an American. My government makes me sick! I'd love to see Bush either dead or imprisoned along with Cheney and thousands of other people who are associated with the U.S. government. I'd love to see the federal government topple to the ground. I'd love to see someone like Ron Paul in the White House. Not any one of these planted morons, such as McCain, Clinton, and Obama.

Additionally, Iran is a distraction the Fed. government has planted from larger issues.

[originaldna]

Why not bring in some other tenants for the rich fuckers, roaches and rats breed like crazy, bring in a new batch ever month. make it a job to release them in every new shop, restaurant and building.

[ansyt]

Awesome reporting, especially part 1.

[gjanie]

Bloomberg does give a SHIT about the hispanics, blacks and asians. All he cares about is accomodating the needs of the rich elite white people. I have lost hope in my own country. The fall of the US empire as we know is bound to happen sooner than later.

[takerdust]

Wow, the brave news films guy has quite an ego

[gravelin08]

People who are wondering what to do: Learn about the National Initiative for the Democracy - there's a web site - just do a search. Please vote for it. If we had the National Initiative, it would have given the people of Harlem THE POWER to represent themselves and help truly determine the outcome of this and other issues.

[BeXFreeDevy]

i feel so hopeless. io wish i knew what to do to help the harlemites out!!!!!

[cycimian]

Thanks Big Al for the vid. Its incredible to have to go to foreign sources of media to see whats happening in my own backyard.

With the Markets heading for a crash, this event will unfold like this. Market Crash, False flag with Israel attacking Iran,. MediaCons hammering 24 seven thier agenda. Clouds of Dust are blown into Russia. Turkey breaks away from NATO, E,U. Falls apart. China Defends its international waters.

And new skills in how to develope bartor systems for survival.

[takerdust]

If its International, how can China own it?

[cycimian]

takerdust, exoxet took out a British ship in the Melvinas or Falklands war. The silk worm 2 is as accurate as our own missle systems. Counter measures can be overwhelmed as Soviet desinged weapons has prooved that. The fact no matter how high the tech gets, It comes down to the Godam GroundPounders Like Korea, Vietnam And Currently the MiddlEast. Play all you want with the idea like Hitler Had of Miracle weapons. Common sense says its known about and theres counter measures.

[gjanie]

Very true!

[keytoothed]

The drummers were there first. Fuck the apartments. They should have built thought about that before they built their fucking apartments. People are more important than real estate.