I admit the Penguin isn't a big threat to Batman but that's his charm. He's your classy villain which is much different from Batman's other villains but can still harm you. He's like Alex from Clockwork Orange, they both have manners and rich taste in music and arts but in a second they can turn on you and make your life a living hell.
As much as I loved all the characters in 'TAS' The Penguins voice just didn't work it was just missing something. Danny Divito in Batman Returns had the humorous darkness that this Penguin just didn't have. But yes, I understand they wanted something different from the Batman Returns penguin.
@whotookCheesusChrist Yeah, I knew he had range, but the Penguine sounded nothing like him. Spyro and Spongebob were very different in voice, but they still had a certain similarity.
I never was much of a penguin fans.I'm sorry I just wasnt,Because i have no idea what make that midget so special than all the rest. Can someone explain to me?
@tylerdw100 He's something of a man of all hats. He can either be a funny, comical bird themed villain or a mastermind-type mob boss. I like both ends of the spectrum myself.
Lately in the comics, he's somewhat reformed but he always walks something of a fine line. He also sometimes acts as Batman's enforcement .
The Penguin is basically a societal chameleon. A real pretender among men, making him perhaps one of the most resourceful people in the Batman universe. He can play the fiddle one day and the piano the next, and excel at both. And what makes him so appealing is that he does indeed have a lot of class. He'll kill you, but do it politely while sipping tea from a cup with his pinky finger up.
Penguin will never be much of a serious threat to the Batman and a laughable grotesque design is not gonna do that. I think the scary part about him is his influence over the normal people. He could destroy your life and you wouldn't even know it.
Those who have read his Joker's Asylum story or the new Penguin mini know what I'm talking about. Now THAT'S Penguin.
why's the penguin even in the Arkham files? he's not insane. he's a crook who should end up at blackgate prison, not an isnane asylum because there's no way he could fake an insanity defense.
i loved the old designs of the batman villians. i never liked the revamped ones, especially the joker, catwoman, penguin, and poison ivy. the joker lost his ruby red lips and creepy eyes, catwoman's ears and eyes were overly gigatic, the "mutated" penguin seemed more like an actual villian, and poison ivy's white skin just looks weird. she's human being for christ sakes! overall, the old ones were more realistic and dark, while the new ones became more cartoonish and childish. thats my oponion.
@alexpiccirillo1 I always prefer the newer design on The Penguin myself, I'm just sentimental about Jerry Robinson's original character for The Penguin design more than I am the mutant Penguin, although I like the older designs of the rest of the BTAS villains far more than the newer designs.
@NaiTaiDai A penguin like this one is definantly not the mutant. Really there are two types of Penguin. The first one is the original which is that fact that he is not a mutant but really a normal person who has an interest in penguins. Kind of like catwoman. I never really liked the mutant kind of penguin.
I liked the original Penguin look from Batman TAS, but the new one just makes more sense. It's kinda weird that he was deformed in TAS, but nobody ever mentioned it.
The Dark Knight Rises should have featured a revamped version of The Penguin as well as The Riddler. Nolan missed a huge opportunity here and I don't think a story featuring Bane and Catwoman is going to deliver as well as it could if they went that direction instead.
Nolan thinks most Batman villains wouldn't work very well in live action movies, and since he insists on his "realism", none of them could ever have supernatural powers. Heck, the Joker doesn't even have his joker toxin which makes people die with a smile on their faces.
I agree he should have used The Riddler because if done right he could be a great villain. Funny how he decided to include Catwoman after saying he didn't want to have her some years ago.
i like the Original Penguin but why do they have to use the British Gentalmen thing.
The new Design they wanted to make the pengun look more scary then with The Danny Devito look, but with Orange hair and the Umbrella and new modifications.
i'm sorry but in the real world only a few of batman's villains would be described as "insane"..I love how people say the joker's insane..in the real world his ass would have gotten the needle
Yeah, like I said he would be a dead man walking. Even if he came from a state without the death penalty he would be killed by the inmates while the gaurds look the other way. At the very least he would be so heavily drugged he wouldn't know what week it is not talking about being able to figure a way to break out.
I entirely agree. The revamped Joker, Poison Ivy, Clayface, Riddler, Killer Croc and Two-face looks awful, Penguin looked too "normal". Only Scarecrow was a bit better, though too different.
I like the Penguin because he is not the typical Bat Villian which makes for a nice change of pace. Instead of a stark, raving mad murderous lunatic you have a sane, relatively sophisticated villian. I like the Joker as well but with the Penguin you can see how Batman deals with different types of criminals.
DeVito's Penguin saw him as a freak...and earlier portrayals seem to be laughed at because they see the whole 'dapper gentleman' thing as being funny. actually, The Penguin is the most believable of Batman's foes. He's a mob boss. Like Vito Corleone has the nickname 'The Godfather' or al Copone 'Scarface', he's Oswald Cobblepot, otherwise called 'Penguin'. He likes good clothes (Vito nor the 'Goodfella's' cast would disagree) and isn't mad (unlike The Joker and almost all other Batman foes...)
Exactly, he isn't a raving loon like the Joker. I could see the Penguin being able to survive in RL. The Joker is a dead man walking. Mobsters don't like raving loons who grab police attention and might kill THEIR relatives just for kicks. A hit contract would quickly be put out on him (As he is an attention hog) and since Joker isn't bullet proof that would be that.
No one could kill him? Why? He isn't bullet proof or omniscient or have any sort of powers whatsoever. He has Joker gas and a few other toys but that isn't going to stop the mob. The FBI, various sheriff and police departments and Homeland Security will all be after him and unlike in the DCU they will shoot to kill . Even if taken alive he would never survive prison.
@mrserjmalakian Sorry but DeVito's mutant penguin really got old fast,
and I kind of prefer his portrayal in the comics especially the way Gail Simone did him recently in Birds Of Prey, He doesn't come across as someone you'd want to turn your back on.
@mangenkiou That's because he is normal. He's just fat. The original series the network wanted them to use Danny DeVito's looks from Batman Returns. When they did the revamp, they finally was able to use the "normal look" they wanted to use in the first place.
it is awful to try and write a story for the penguin. I love getting into Scarecrow and Riddler's heads because they're insane but clever (haven't touched the joker yet, i think he's overrated), but they can be so dark, yet suarve and multi-dimensional at the same time. The penguin's quite dull, unlike Harley and Ivy who are kick ass and unlike Crane and Nygma, you can't write a love stories for him because he is NOT attractive. Am I shallow? Hell yeah lol
1. Who needs love stories for villains? Did Hannibal Lecter need a love story? Anton Chigurh?
2. The Penguin isn't attractive, but neither is the Joker with his deformed and pale face, or Two-Face for that matter.
3. In the Joker's Asylum comicbook there actually IS a good "love story" with the Penguin, in which he seemingly falls in love with a foreign woman sold in an auction for the mob.
The problem with the Penguin was that its really hard to come up with good and interesting stories with him. I mean, his only good episodes were when he appeared along side Joker & Two-Face and the one where he tried to go straight. The rest were pretty much train wrecks. Hence why he was reduced to a support character
@Danthepest1 agreed. I think it would almost take an army of fanfic writers to do something with him. Personal I've been trying to work out a Buffy/Batman Cross in which Penguin is Buffy's father. Its a little hard to get the muse to give me anything.
@TraciPeteyforlife I'm in the middle of a Justice League fan-fic, and, in keeping with DCAU, I've actually made the Penguin a reformed character (similar to TNBA), and he actually is the victim of the story rather than the protagonist.
@Danthepest1 I thought blind as a bat was good, though since that was more about Batman fighting blind any villian would do. Still, I like the Penguin and enjoy his episodes.
Paul Williams is the best to describe myself. He had the voice and the cartoon character had all the charm, style, ritzy and aristocratic behaviour that I have. It was the best cartoon Oswald they have ever made.
More like the animators got lazy and wanted to save money so they switched to the new style (which is not half as good as the original designs). Less details, less lines, less time spent, (not a good thing).
No it isn't because they were lazy. It's because after 2 years when the original series ended, they were allowed to make another one. Their choice was to create a new style so that it was fresh and new.
@KoterzRulez If that is what you want to believe, that's fine. The fact doesn't change that the new style is cheaper and faster than the old one. I definitely know which style gives more atmosphere to the series and which series has more gravitas.
@pratt123 in the end I think it's all because of money (it fks up everything in life) and less creative / talented designers. They fked up real good. Any die-hard fan of batman could have improved on the old designs better than those stooges.
Paul williams did not do justice to the penguin. i luv the comics version of penguin. i originally luved the devito penguin as a child until i started collecting comcs and getting into those stories, i luved the original Penguin character, which is why i really enjoyed watching the new adventure of batman better when it came to the penguin. back to paul though, he is a great actor but he made the penguin sound too wimpy. David Stires brought him to life for me in MOBW.
I never really liked the Penguin. The Joker's always been my favourite. Not cuz he's Batman's arch enemy, but because he's the opposite of Batman. Batman is dull, boring, and doesn't like comedy. Joker's fun, entertaining, and he's always laughing. His laugh is the best :D
Now that I hear that The Penguin is fat...I don't like him...the only thing cool about him is that he was raised by penguins, make penguin bombs, and fly with his umbrella.
Well yeah, your cousin was thinking of the Danny Devito Penguin from Batman Returns.
In the comics, (which he or she probably hasn't read and or can't get ahold of, or understand) The Penguin wasn't abandoned by his parents and raised by penguins. He was raised by his parents and was teased in school for being overweight, short, and having a long beak-like nose. Because of that, he was nicknamed "Penguin" which he used as his Villian name when he turned to crime.
The reason he became a criminal was because of all the excessive teasing, and him basically being an outcast in his rich upperclass family.
His mother also required him to carry an umbrella with him at all times, due to his father being caught in a storm and dying of pneumonia, which is why he carries umbrellas all the time, but modified them to become weapons.
It was Tim Burton's idea to make Penguin deformed, and the screenwriter gave him a different origin.
The Penguin with Paul Williams voice is THE BEST!!!! His voice was the BEST for him in my oppinnion XDDD In a way, he was great because both of them are very short, and his voice sounds like he has chubby cheeks ( that he used to have ) XDD
Its too abd they werent able to get Paul Williams to be part of the interview.... (No wonder I kept on seing penguing while watching Phantom of the Paradise when ever "Swan" was talking XDD )
the penguin is awesome for one reason: he has an umbrella for EVERYTHING! knife, sword, dart gun, machine gun, rocket launcher, hand held helicopter, poison spike, smoke screen generator, the list just goes on and on
even though it's a rumor that's been thrown around a lot, whoever first thought of philip seymour hoffman as the penguin is a damn genius. cast the man, and you will not need to do anything else to convince the audience that this character is a real guy.
I'd love to see the Penguin in a Christopher Nolan movie - any suggestions to how they could adapt this character to fit the more realistic style that Nolan applies to his Batman movies?
@Kotlettbengt How about they bring him in as a villan for both bruce and batman. He is a businessman trying to take over Wayne Enterprises, but is also secretly embroiled in Gotham's underworld. That gives you the opportunity to bring in a secondary villan like Deadshot or whatever
@Kotlettbengt Penguin would have to be a minor character, maybe an underground connection or an arms dealer. There's no way he could ever be taken seriously next to Scarecrow, Two-Face, or the Joker.
@Kotlettbengt they were going to put him in dark kinght (but with the scarecrow scene, sadly they couldnt), he was going to be an arms dealer, but only in one scene. but he will be in the next movie (probably dealing arms, and being the 2nd villain, like scarecrow was in batman beguins)
@sugarcat1997 Answer: maybe he had on gloves. And as to why he slimmed down so much, two words: Jenny Craig. Even supervillains have to use a diet program.
There's no such thing as a London British Gentleman anymore. That was Victorian times, you fucking Americans just have no idea. WE DON"T LOOK OR SOUND LIKE THAT OK?
@finze1 While I agree with you about British stereotypes, if you listen in the video, Bruce Timm says the design is based on a 19TH CENTURY British gentleman caricature. This means that not only is the design based on Victorian times, but also that they are well aware that is an over-the-top stereotype.
I think Danny Devito's Penguin was the best. It was dark and creepy but he was very intelligent. This one is okay but the one that Devito played in Batman Returns was better.
So true. However, he wasn't really a business man like he was in other versions but Devito still owned that role and that will always be the Penguin, just as Michell PFeiffer will always be Catwoman.
On a side note, hte penguin at .28 was the best drawn version. the one at 2.04 sux.
i see what you mean, even tho the old penguin was not that scary they made him even less scary and memorable...but redesigning character i think is one great part of its development, even if its a step backwards the character in the future maybe wont have the flaws of this one...at the end the character is more enrich either way
sry your other comment was removed i don't know y it was
The version I loved was definitely not the redesign. My favorite Penguin portrayal was from "Joker's Asylum: Penguin #1". In it he was a tragic character, who you could actually feel sorry for (even though he does horrible things in the cruelest way possible, ofcourse).
Feels kinda weak to see him as a joke in the cartoon.
Oh I'm sorry, I didnt stop to think that anyone would be stupid enough to think that I meant ALL info!! I only meant the vid info. Thats probably because on most of the vids Ive watched the info was worthless to me. We all dont watch important youtube vids like you. Some of us actually LIKE to watch hilarious stuff where you dont need to read the info.
Wake up this is life. We all have our oppinions, dont ya know? P.s Whyd you reply when I posted that 3 weeks ago.
I wish Nolan would consider the Penguin, he says its tricky but all you have to do is make him a highclass villian that takes over the mob after the events of DarkKnight because he would be the only one to stand up to Batman. Anyways, I trust Nolan will do a good job whatever he decides, it would just be cool to see the penguin in Nolan's vision, i'm not a big fan of Tim Burton's penguin (Devito).
WRONG! Penguin is supposed t be hideous, fat, sharp teeth, and no fingers! The version in The Batman had it right, but again, some of that show's revamps are rediculous and wrong too. Like Riddler looks like Marilyn Manson!
but the point of that movie is to she he was a freak. Sure they exaggerated. I mean biting off a guy's nose? but still it was about him attempting to be part of a high society and then being exposed fr the cold hearted monster he was. He belonged in the sewer, not a mansion.. But where all his money come from I have no idea. I guess his penguins robbed banks. And the clown goons helped too.
i just like the old rich mob boss penguin from the comics. i hated that they turned him into a monster and now all you noobs think thats "the real penguin"
noob. had a feeling that word would come up. I just prefer Tim Burton's vision. It's still convincing. But the comic book world is frought with opinions of people who think their opinions are what everyone should think whether they want to or not. Whatever. At least it's not Marvel we're talking about. Don't even get me started on those assholes.
Penguin was never hideous until Tim Burton took over. He was fat, yes, but not a flippered Freak. Check your comic history again. This version is more true to Bob Kane's original idea.
actually.. you're wrong. In the comic book (the original material) Oswald Cobblepot is a corrupted billionare thug.. like Bernie Maddof meets John Gotti..and originally was a short.. round.. pudgy.. arrogant bastard.. with a fasination of birds. Not a Mutant bird man... like what tim burton did to him. Plus.. this is was about the revamp to Batman the Animated series.. not The Batman.. 2 completely different shows.
I think what they should do for the penguin in the Chris Nolan series is like make the penguin be played by Philip Hofmen Seymour he'd be a great penguin and they should make him in the Chris Nolan series is make the penguin very strong like for example like when he punches someone the person gets pushed against the wall by his strength kind of like the Kingpin and when he uses the Umbarrel he uses it to whack henchmen with it if they fail at something or when he torches somebody
I admit the Penguin isn't a big threat to Batman but that's his charm. He's your classy villain which is much different from Batman's other villains but can still harm you. He's like Alex from Clockwork Orange, they both have manners and rich taste in music and arts but in a second they can turn on you and make your life a living hell.
J223522 4 days ago
As much as I loved all the characters in 'TAS' The Penguins voice just didn't work it was just missing something. Danny Divito in Batman Returns had the humorous darkness that this Penguin just didn't have. But yes, I understand they wanted something different from the Batman Returns penguin.
XFILESfanchannel 3 weeks ago
@XFILESfanchannel I like the Penguin voice heard in one of the more recent renditions under the title "The Batman".
SpyroLUVA 3 weeks ago
@SpyroLUVA Ah, you mean the one with Spongebob himself Tom Kenny.
whotookCheesusChrist 2 weeks ago
@whotookCheesusChrist Is that who did Penguin's voice in The Batman? I had no idea...
SpyroLUVA 2 weeks ago
@SpyroLUVA A bit of a surprise, ain't it?
whotookCheesusChrist 2 weeks ago
@whotookCheesusChrist Yeah, I knew he had range, but the Penguine sounded nothing like him. Spyro and Spongebob were very different in voice, but they still had a certain similarity.
SpyroLUVA 2 weeks ago
@SpyroLUVA watch adventure time nd you'll recognize the tom kenny.
Rainb0wWarri0r 4 days ago
The Penguin in Arkham City was my favorite, but the New Adventures' Penguin's personality is kind of fun; a respectable hypocrite...
Zuyuri 3 weeks ago
@Zuyuri
I liked his Cockney accent lol
QuesoGr7 1 week ago
I never was much of a penguin fans.I'm sorry I just wasnt,Because i have no idea what make that midget so special than all the rest. Can someone explain to me?
tylerdw100 1 month ago in playlist More videos from soapscum
@tylerdw100 He's something of a man of all hats. He can either be a funny, comical bird themed villain or a mastermind-type mob boss. I like both ends of the spectrum myself.
Lately in the comics, he's somewhat reformed but he always walks something of a fine line. He also sometimes acts as Batman's enforcement .
TheKamacuras 1 month ago
@TheKamacuras * Informent, rather.
TheKamacuras 1 month ago
@TheKamacuras Exactly.
The Penguin is basically a societal chameleon. A real pretender among men, making him perhaps one of the most resourceful people in the Batman universe. He can play the fiddle one day and the piano the next, and excel at both. And what makes him so appealing is that he does indeed have a lot of class. He'll kill you, but do it politely while sipping tea from a cup with his pinky finger up.
PrinceSephiroth 1 month ago
I HATE THESE FUCKIN REVAMPS!!! IF IT AIN'T BROKE DONT FIX IT GODDAMMIT!!!!!!!
mattwilhelm60 2 months ago
@mattwilhelm60 I agree, the original animation style AND series was great (Minus Killer Croc)
codafett 1 month ago
@codafett haha yeah
mattwilhelm60 1 month ago
now i wanna use an umbrella as a shooting gun
dammyteo 2 months ago in playlist More videos from soapscum
Penguin will never be much of a serious threat to the Batman and a laughable grotesque design is not gonna do that. I think the scary part about him is his influence over the normal people. He could destroy your life and you wouldn't even know it.
Those who have read his Joker's Asylum story or the new Penguin mini know what I'm talking about. Now THAT'S Penguin.
tonby 2 months ago
In Arkham City instead of a monocle he has a broken bottle stuck into his eye...
I thought that was pretty cool. Made him feel more brutal.
Mikeanglo 3 months ago
@Mikeanglo i felt the same....very gritty
rickross22 3 months ago
"He was never going to become the dark and scary villain Joker was..."
Lol, guess DC just proved that guy wrong!
MassiveHugAttack 3 months ago
They ruined everything in Volume 4.
The very first Batman TAS is Batman at his finest.
SackolfKnitler 3 months ago
they made penguin gay
KKINTI 3 months ago
they made the penguin less intimidating by making him so normal.
JackofOneTrade567 3 months ago
"Yo dawg. I hear you like batman. So I killed your parents."
slaidification 3 months ago
@slaidification lawl
SackolfKnitler 3 months ago
why's the penguin even in the Arkham files? he's not insane. he's a crook who should end up at blackgate prison, not an isnane asylum because there's no way he could fake an insanity defense.
Regenmacher175 3 months ago
Penguin's hands are normal looking?!?
ChrisofNirvana 3 months ago
Is it just me or when Eric Radomski comes on, two face looks flopped?
Noelkit656 4 months ago
The Penguin was one of the few characters I prefered the Revamp of the new show
CoolioVids101 5 months ago
penguin looks sick in arkham city
H2oflaky62 5 months ago
i loved the old designs of the batman villians. i never liked the revamped ones, especially the joker, catwoman, penguin, and poison ivy. the joker lost his ruby red lips and creepy eyes, catwoman's ears and eyes were overly gigatic, the "mutated" penguin seemed more like an actual villian, and poison ivy's white skin just looks weird. she's human being for christ sakes! overall, the old ones were more realistic and dark, while the new ones became more cartoonish and childish. thats my oponion.
alexpiccirillo1 6 months ago
@alexpiccirillo1 I always prefer the newer design on The Penguin myself, I'm just sentimental about Jerry Robinson's original character for The Penguin design more than I am the mutant Penguin, although I like the older designs of the rest of the BTAS villains far more than the newer designs.
cha5 5 months ago
I always thought Danny Devito was a little too over the top and cold-hearted at times.
questionxhuntress 6 months ago
Penguin is one of the few villains who doesn't qualify to be sent to Arkham, right?
NaiTaiDai 6 months ago
@NaiTaiDai Not always. Usually he is just a deformed mobster, not insane, so he goes to Blackgate.
But incarnations like Batman Returns Penguin would have been send to Arkham if he wouldn't have died.
TheMarvelousDC 6 months ago
@NaiTaiDai A penguin like this one is definantly not the mutant. Really there are two types of Penguin. The first one is the original which is that fact that he is not a mutant but really a normal person who has an interest in penguins. Kind of like catwoman. I never really liked the mutant kind of penguin.
1Historygenius 6 months ago
I liked the first Joker because he looked like a clown, the second because of his eyes, and the third because he looked like Frieza.
Visonu 7 months ago
2:01 okay....THAT, is awesome
lordxeras 7 months ago
I liked the original Penguin look from Batman TAS, but the new one just makes more sense. It's kinda weird that he was deformed in TAS, but nobody ever mentioned it.
Leatherbubba 8 months ago
The Dark Knight Rises should have featured a revamped version of The Penguin as well as The Riddler. Nolan missed a huge opportunity here and I don't think a story featuring Bane and Catwoman is going to deliver as well as it could if they went that direction instead.
MystikWizard 8 months ago
@MystikWizard Well said. Luckily we'll be getting a revamped Penguin in Arkham City, and he's looking to be a total bad ass.
Teleisawesome 8 months ago
@MystikWizard
Nolan thinks most Batman villains wouldn't work very well in live action movies, and since he insists on his "realism", none of them could ever have supernatural powers. Heck, the Joker doesn't even have his joker toxin which makes people die with a smile on their faces.
I agree he should have used The Riddler because if done right he could be a great villain. Funny how he decided to include Catwoman after saying he didn't want to have her some years ago.
McLarenMercedes 8 months ago
@McLarenMercedes
I have to concur about The Joker, he indeed lacks a key element, but I guess it's to avoid redundance with Scarecrow's fear toxin.
Riddler could be good, though he is better as a campy character as in the 1960s series (RIP Frank Gorshin).
rocknrollhell 7 months ago
i like the Original Penguin but why do they have to use the British Gentalmen thing.
The new Design they wanted to make the pengun look more scary then with The Danny Devito look, but with Orange hair and the Umbrella and new modifications.
dim432 8 months ago
i'm sorry but in the real world only a few of batman's villains would be described as "insane"..I love how people say the joker's insane..in the real world his ass would have gotten the needle
Raffasaur69 8 months ago
@Raffasaur69
Yeah, like I said he would be a dead man walking. Even if he came from a state without the death penalty he would be killed by the inmates while the gaurds look the other way. At the very least he would be so heavily drugged he wouldn't know what week it is not talking about being able to figure a way to break out.
livingwill1 4 months ago
Personally..I like Mr.Burgess Meredeth's version of"The Penquin"better.
TheStanbabe 9 months ago
None of these redone designs looked as good as the first run of The Animated Series. They had such a good thing going, why did they mess with it?
EnemyAce88 9 months ago
@EnemyAce88
I entirely agree. The revamped Joker, Poison Ivy, Clayface, Riddler, Killer Croc and Two-face looks awful, Penguin looked too "normal". Only Scarecrow was a bit better, though too different.
rocknrollhell 7 months ago
@rocknrollhell Poison Ivy, Clayface, Joker, and Killer Croc looked fine. You don't know what you're talking about.
TanManAndWhiteBoy 7 months ago
@TanManAndWhiteBoy
Maybe fine, but for sure not as good as the original TAS design. :P
rocknrollhell 7 months ago
@rocknrollhell All right, I'll admit that.
TanManAndWhiteBoy 7 months ago
I like the Penguin because he is not the typical Bat Villian which makes for a nice change of pace. Instead of a stark, raving mad murderous lunatic you have a sane, relatively sophisticated villian. I like the Joker as well but with the Penguin you can see how Batman deals with different types of criminals.
livingwill1 10 months ago
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southparkjrd 9 months ago
2:01 - 2:07 Smooth!
whotookCheesusChrist 10 months ago
Well the Penguin's movie version is Tim Burton's because he was the director version not DeVito's .
MaidenBeMyGuide 10 months ago
Sorry but, as I've said with the Riddler "The Batman" version of Penguin just looks way better. And is made into a real villan and treath.
Bacbi 10 months ago
DeVito's Penguin saw him as a freak...and earlier portrayals seem to be laughed at because they see the whole 'dapper gentleman' thing as being funny. actually, The Penguin is the most believable of Batman's foes. He's a mob boss. Like Vito Corleone has the nickname 'The Godfather' or al Copone 'Scarface', he's Oswald Cobblepot, otherwise called 'Penguin'. He likes good clothes (Vito nor the 'Goodfella's' cast would disagree) and isn't mad (unlike The Joker and almost all other Batman foes...)
MrCybershade 10 months ago
@MrCybershade
Exactly, he isn't a raving loon like the Joker. I could see the Penguin being able to survive in RL. The Joker is a dead man walking. Mobsters don't like raving loons who grab police attention and might kill THEIR relatives just for kicks. A hit contract would quickly be put out on him (As he is an attention hog) and since Joker isn't bullet proof that would be that.
livingwill1 5 months ago
@livingwill1 No one could kill him though, if you test half of his plans, they are actually kinda brilliant.
Mcjagger11 3 months ago
@Mcjagger11
No one could kill him? Why? He isn't bullet proof or omniscient or have any sort of powers whatsoever. He has Joker gas and a few other toys but that isn't going to stop the mob. The FBI, various sheriff and police departments and Homeland Security will all be after him and unlike in the DCU they will shoot to kill . Even if taken alive he would never survive prison.
livingwill1 3 months ago
The problem with this penguin is the same problem as the penguin in the comics. so uninteresting when compared to DeVito's penguin....
mrserjmalakian 11 months ago
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cha5 10 months ago
@mrserjmalakian Sorry but DeVito's mutant penguin really got old fast,
and I kind of prefer his portrayal in the comics especially the way Gail Simone did him recently in Birds Of Prey, He doesn't come across as someone you'd want to turn your back on.
cha5 10 months ago
@cha5 Well, not in my opinion. But we all have opinions, so it doesn't matter.
mrserjmalakian 10 months ago
ummm... 666 likes<_<
TheFlammar 11 months ago
never give a penguin a machine gun
shadowdemons117 11 months ago
The first Penguin looked almost exactly like Danny Devito interpretation . The new one looks more...well...normal
mangenkiou 1 year ago
@mangenkiou That's because he is normal. He's just fat. The original series the network wanted them to use Danny DeVito's looks from Batman Returns. When they did the revamp, they finally was able to use the "normal look" they wanted to use in the first place.
wyrmhighking 11 months ago
it is awful to try and write a story for the penguin. I love getting into Scarecrow and Riddler's heads because they're insane but clever (haven't touched the joker yet, i think he's overrated), but they can be so dark, yet suarve and multi-dimensional at the same time. The penguin's quite dull, unlike Harley and Ivy who are kick ass and unlike Crane and Nygma, you can't write a love stories for him because he is NOT attractive. Am I shallow? Hell yeah lol
Sweetlittlemystery 1 year ago
@Sweetlittlemystery
1. Who needs love stories for villains? Did Hannibal Lecter need a love story? Anton Chigurh?
2. The Penguin isn't attractive, but neither is the Joker with his deformed and pale face, or Two-Face for that matter.
3. In the Joker's Asylum comicbook there actually IS a good "love story" with the Penguin, in which he seemingly falls in love with a foreign woman sold in an auction for the mob.
So Harley and Ivy are "kick-ass"? Some argument.
The Riddler is very Joker-like..
McLarenMercedes 11 months ago
@Sweetlittlemystery You're an idiot
MisterDeusEx 11 months ago
@MisterDeusEx you're a douche
Sweetlittlemystery 11 months ago
Danny DeVito's Penguin was the greatest Batman villain on screen, so I wouldn't call the character entirely boring.
LightStijn 1 year ago
Old Penguin was a little bit too chubby.
But the new one looks a bit too sophisticated.
Mix them up and you'll have the perfect Penguin. :-P
jonnavdpas 1 year ago
The problem with the Penguin was that its really hard to come up with good and interesting stories with him. I mean, his only good episodes were when he appeared along side Joker & Two-Face and the one where he tried to go straight. The rest were pretty much train wrecks. Hence why he was reduced to a support character
Danthepest1 1 year ago
@Danthepest1 agreed. I think it would almost take an army of fanfic writers to do something with him. Personal I've been trying to work out a Buffy/Batman Cross in which Penguin is Buffy's father. Its a little hard to get the muse to give me anything.
TraciPeteyforlife 1 year ago
@TraciPeteyforlife I'm in the middle of a Justice League fan-fic, and, in keeping with DCAU, I've actually made the Penguin a reformed character (similar to TNBA), and he actually is the victim of the story rather than the protagonist.
PaulAnt2008 1 year ago
@PaulAnt2008 Sorry, that should have been antagonist, not protagonist! :P
PaulAnt2008 1 year ago
@Danthepest1 I thought blind as a bat was good, though since that was more about Batman fighting blind any villian would do. Still, I like the Penguin and enjoy his episodes.
Darthzilla99 6 months ago
Paul Williams is the best to describe myself. He had the voice and the cartoon character had all the charm, style, ritzy and aristocratic behaviour that I have. It was the best cartoon Oswald they have ever made.
1MrCobblepot 1 year ago
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1MrCobblepot 1 year ago
Overall I really like the older one better way more detail plus the white monoclonal is sweet
KevDoFresh 1 year ago
i just really hate the Penguin. he isnt funny like the Joker, suave like the Riddler, or menacing like Two-Face. he's just boring. ugh.
tokyopanda13 1 year ago
@tokyopanda13 Cause he's sane look it up.
1MrCobblepot 1 year ago
More like the animators got lazy and wanted to save money so they switched to the new style (which is not half as good as the original designs). Less details, less lines, less time spent, (not a good thing).
pratt123 1 year ago
@pratt123
No it isn't because they were lazy. It's because after 2 years when the original series ended, they were allowed to make another one. Their choice was to create a new style so that it was fresh and new.
KoterzRulez 1 year ago
@KoterzRulez If that is what you want to believe, that's fine. The fact doesn't change that the new style is cheaper and faster than the old one. I definitely know which style gives more atmosphere to the series and which series has more gravitas.
pratt123 1 year ago
@pratt123 in the end I think it's all because of money (it fks up everything in life) and less creative / talented designers. They fked up real good. Any die-hard fan of batman could have improved on the old designs better than those stooges.
peperes2 9 months ago
@peperes2 Yup, money talks louder than anything else, especially art and franchise considerations. Revamps are screwed up more often than not.
pratt123 9 months ago
Paul williams did not do justice to the penguin. i luv the comics version of penguin. i originally luved the devito penguin as a child until i started collecting comcs and getting into those stories, i luved the original Penguin character, which is why i really enjoyed watching the new adventure of batman better when it came to the penguin. back to paul though, he is a great actor but he made the penguin sound too wimpy. David Stires brought him to life for me in MOBW.
SpideryFan6 1 year ago
I never really liked the Penguin. The Joker's always been my favourite. Not cuz he's Batman's arch enemy, but because he's the opposite of Batman. Batman is dull, boring, and doesn't like comedy. Joker's fun, entertaining, and he's always laughing. His laugh is the best :D
ROOKI3LINKX 1 year ago
@ROOKI3LINKX Not many people like the Penguin cause he's sane, high society and more of a business man then anything.
1MrCobblepot 1 year ago
Now that I hear that The Penguin is fat...I don't like him...the only thing cool about him is that he was raised by penguins, make penguin bombs, and fly with his umbrella.
98animefan 1 year ago
@98animefan
Your thinking of the Danny Devito Penguin from Batman Returns.
In the comics, he wasn't raised by penguins, or deformed.
I was never a huge fan of The Penguin. To me, he's one of the weaker Batman villians.
I really only liked the Danny Devito version. He was more evil and sinister.
SlasherIncorporated 1 year ago
@SlasherIncorporated oh...but that was what my 7 year old cousin told me so I don't know anything about any other villain except harley quinn
98animefan 1 year ago
@98animefan
Oh.
Well yeah, your cousin was thinking of the Danny Devito Penguin from Batman Returns.
In the comics, (which he or she probably hasn't read and or can't get ahold of, or understand) The Penguin wasn't abandoned by his parents and raised by penguins. He was raised by his parents and was teased in school for being overweight, short, and having a long beak-like nose. Because of that, he was nicknamed "Penguin" which he used as his Villian name when he turned to crime.
SlasherIncorporated 1 year ago
@SlasherIncorporated You are correct but "currently" he is just a business man and owns the Iceberg Lounge.
1MrCobblepot 1 year ago
@98animefan
The reason he became a criminal was because of all the excessive teasing, and him basically being an outcast in his rich upperclass family.
His mother also required him to carry an umbrella with him at all times, due to his father being caught in a storm and dying of pneumonia, which is why he carries umbrellas all the time, but modified them to become weapons.
It was Tim Burton's idea to make Penguin deformed, and the screenwriter gave him a different origin.
SlasherIncorporated 1 year ago
The Penguin with Paul Williams voice is THE BEST!!!! His voice was the BEST for him in my oppinnion XDDD In a way, he was great because both of them are very short, and his voice sounds like he has chubby cheeks ( that he used to have ) XDD
Its too abd they werent able to get Paul Williams to be part of the interview.... (No wonder I kept on seing penguing while watching Phantom of the Paradise when ever "Swan" was talking XDD )
narmolania 1 year ago
the penguin is awesome for one reason: he has an umbrella for EVERYTHING! knife, sword, dart gun, machine gun, rocket launcher, hand held helicopter, poison spike, smoke screen generator, the list just goes on and on
katikar1 1 year ago
even though it's a rumor that's been thrown around a lot, whoever first thought of philip seymour hoffman as the penguin is a damn genius. cast the man, and you will not need to do anything else to convince the audience that this character is a real guy.
1richards 1 year ago
Well he was already a villain in the older movies, so they wouldn't really need to bring him back. oh but they did do that with the joker. teehee
TheRockafellers 1 year ago
I'd love to see the Penguin in a Christopher Nolan movie - any suggestions to how they could adapt this character to fit the more realistic style that Nolan applies to his Batman movies?
Kotlettbengt 1 year ago
@Kotlettbengt How about they bring him in as a villan for both bruce and batman. He is a businessman trying to take over Wayne Enterprises, but is also secretly embroiled in Gotham's underworld. That gives you the opportunity to bring in a secondary villan like Deadshot or whatever
Capta1nChaos 1 year ago
@Kotlettbengt Penguin would have to be a minor character, maybe an underground connection or an arms dealer. There's no way he could ever be taken seriously next to Scarecrow, Two-Face, or the Joker.
DulBeat 1 year ago
@Kotlettbengt they were going to put him in dark kinght (but with the scarecrow scene, sadly they couldnt), he was going to be an arms dealer, but only in one scene. but he will be in the next movie (probably dealing arms, and being the 2nd villain, like scarecrow was in batman beguins)
TheDarthZ 1 year ago
@TheDarthZ
What are you talking about? Nothing has been mentioned of The Penguin appearing in the next movie, besides rumors.
Infact, nothing has been confirmed about the 3rd movie, other than that they ARE doing it.
Nolan himself even said he doesn't see himself using Penguin, as the Penguin would be tricky, and has already been featured in a movie.
SlasherIncorporated 1 year ago
Ladies and gentlemen - Penguin is at it again with the partying and the stealing.
trigunlover11 1 year ago
Philip Seymour Hoffman Needs To Get Off His Fat Ass And Play The Penguin In The Third Batman Movie That Would Be Awesome !!!!
Hoffman Beat The Crap Out Of Tom Cruise In That Mission Impossible Movie.
Perfect Fat Guy or The Job.
07liberian 1 year ago
But he's still a villian...so he gets to have a machine gun stashed
Robstermaniac1000 1 year ago
"My way would have been so much more pleasant..."
Assassination with class
Iori400 1 year ago
No top hat = no penguin... simple
Spore6001 1 year ago
I am happy for penguin
VideoGuyIdiot22 1 year ago
Japanese Mafia has samurai swords in fake canes thats cool,
but Penguins got fully automatics in an umbrella
GearShotgun 1 year ago
0:04 what was that episode?
33The3Smart3One33 1 year ago
at 2:05 even though this show was made in the 90's what criminal still uses the tommy gun, most criminals in the 90's had guns like the m16 or AK-47
eba2294 1 year ago
@eba2294 The cartoon is a blend of 1930s aesthetics and then-modern technology.
62SG 1 year ago
@eba2294
how come they still wear 40's clothing and drive around in 40's cars??
the cartoon stays true to the period of time Batman was originally conceived in, when he was a pretty dark and brutal character.
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 1 year ago
penguin is my favorite batman villain
suokkis 1 year ago
I never liked him
akumatekkusu666 1 year ago
I'm sorry but I hated that Penguin casting...too bland...
Ladysheloun 1 year ago
wy doesnt he have penguin hands like in the movie ?
dejandude 1 year ago
the revamp from 0:55 is ALOT better than the one from 0:50
DIsturbios1234 1 year ago
@DIsturbios1234 Well, I think that the original is more frighting, he looks like a villain. The redesign is just a regular cartoon character.
Stuathain1 1 year ago
why did they give him only 3 fingers before and now 5 fingers?
sugarcat1997 1 year ago
@sugarcat1997 Answer: maybe he had on gloves. And as to why he slimmed down so much, two words: Jenny Craig. Even supervillains have to use a diet program.
floriszaire145 1 year ago
the penguin almost look like a pimp to me
Mr795137 1 year ago
wat is the first song on dis
PowuhToSeven 1 year ago
Dude finez1 calm the fuck down man shit it's a show man relax
lubu343 1 year ago
There's no such thing as a London British Gentleman anymore. That was Victorian times, you fucking Americans just have no idea. WE DON"T LOOK OR SOUND LIKE THAT OK?
finze1 1 year ago
@finze1 Ok. Didn't they just say 19th century British Gentleman? As in the 1800s which would include the Victorian times?
NightJay24 1 year ago
@finze1 While I agree with you about British stereotypes, if you listen in the video, Bruce Timm says the design is based on a 19TH CENTURY British gentleman caricature. This means that not only is the design based on Victorian times, but also that they are well aware that is an over-the-top stereotype.
PaulAnt2008 1 year ago
@finze1 He is an American villian and just because he appears the way he does would not make him British.
1Historygenius 6 months ago
i like the first pengin but the second one like a london british genteman
dim432 1 year ago
*drools*
I love him X3
Yes, I'm that weird LMAO
emmywarrior 1 year ago
Penguin = Winston Churchill
Durhandoni 2 years ago
I would say (i forgot his name lol) George from Seinfeld. He could do a great job
Pocomocoloco 1 year ago
what if he met elton jon?
steventean 2 years ago
I think Danny Devito's Penguin was the best. It was dark and creepy but he was very intelligent. This one is okay but the one that Devito played in Batman Returns was better.
5590ERS 2 years ago
So true. However, he wasn't really a business man like he was in other versions but Devito still owned that role and that will always be the Penguin, just as Michell PFeiffer will always be Catwoman.
On a side note, hte penguin at .28 was the best drawn version. the one at 2.04 sux.
BonJoviFanboy 2 years ago
Crap.... he's not penguin
scarlindo 2 years ago
they did a good job
AVagent007 2 years ago
I hate what they did to the penguin, they totally ruined it..I like earlier versions....fuck this series..
appletis 2 years ago
And they completly destroyed the penguin for THE BATMAN series...
Yulenissen 2 years ago
I hate those damned redesigns. They should have let all the characters look the way they did in the early episodes throughout the entire series!
chenrikl 2 years ago
@chenrikl
what do you mean?
kirkenseth 2 years ago
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chenrikl 2 years ago
@chenrikl
i see what you mean, even tho the old penguin was not that scary they made him even less scary and memorable...but redesigning character i think is one great part of its development, even if its a step backwards the character in the future maybe wont have the flaws of this one...at the end the character is more enrich either way
sry your other comment was removed i don't know y it was
kirkenseth 2 years ago
The version I loved was definitely not the redesign. My favorite Penguin portrayal was from "Joker's Asylum: Penguin #1". In it he was a tragic character, who you could actually feel sorry for (even though he does horrible things in the cruelest way possible, ofcourse).
Feels kinda weak to see him as a joke in the cartoon.
mansonii 2 years ago
what batman cartoon is this from?
Reptopia 2 years ago
never read the info, huh? Batman: The Animated Series Vol 4
derlustigethomas 2 years ago
@derlustigethomas ur an idiot
Goyemproductions 2 years ago
@Goyemproductions Take it easy, man.
LeoSol13 2 years ago
@LeoSol13 u smell like poopie
Goyemproductions 2 years ago
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LeoSol13 2 years ago
@Goyemproductions Yeah, that's really mature.
LeoSol13 2 years ago
I never really read the info cuz it doesnt matter. So sorry we all cant be as perfect as you.
Brat.....
CoolRisa 2 years ago
Info doesn't matter huh?
How stupid of you to believe that.
I guess reading road signs ifno that say there's danger ahead doesn't matter to you either.
Reading info prevents people from posting stupid questions.
You reckless fool.
AlexDeLarge90 2 years ago
Oh I'm sorry, I didnt stop to think that anyone would be stupid enough to think that I meant ALL info!! I only meant the vid info. Thats probably because on most of the vids Ive watched the info was worthless to me. We all dont watch important youtube vids like you. Some of us actually LIKE to watch hilarious stuff where you dont need to read the info.
Wake up this is life. We all have our oppinions, dont ya know? P.s Whyd you reply when I posted that 3 weeks ago.
CoolRisa 2 years ago
So??
AlexDeLarge90 2 years ago
What do you mean so? So what?
CoolRisa 2 years ago
I wish Nolan would consider the Penguin, he says its tricky but all you have to do is make him a highclass villian that takes over the mob after the events of DarkKnight because he would be the only one to stand up to Batman. Anyways, I trust Nolan will do a good job whatever he decides, it would just be cool to see the penguin in Nolan's vision, i'm not a big fan of Tim Burton's penguin (Devito).
EchoBoomer1987 2 years ago
WRONG! Penguin is supposed t be hideous, fat, sharp teeth, and no fingers! The version in The Batman had it right, but again, some of that show's revamps are rediculous and wrong too. Like Riddler looks like Marilyn Manson!
VinnyVanYiffy 2 years ago
i like this one better not the mutant like in batman returns
mikeynike81 2 years ago
but the point of that movie is to she he was a freak. Sure they exaggerated. I mean biting off a guy's nose? but still it was about him attempting to be part of a high society and then being exposed fr the cold hearted monster he was. He belonged in the sewer, not a mansion.. But where all his money come from I have no idea. I guess his penguins robbed banks. And the clown goons helped too.
VinnyVanYiffy 2 years ago
i just like the old rich mob boss penguin from the comics. i hated that they turned him into a monster and now all you noobs think thats "the real penguin"
mikeynike81 2 years ago
noob. had a feeling that word would come up. I just prefer Tim Burton's vision. It's still convincing. But the comic book world is frought with opinions of people who think their opinions are what everyone should think whether they want to or not. Whatever. At least it's not Marvel we're talking about. Don't even get me started on those assholes.
VinnyVanYiffy 2 years ago
Penguin was never hideous until Tim Burton took over. He was fat, yes, but not a flippered Freak. Check your comic history again. This version is more true to Bob Kane's original idea.
MedievalMind 2 years ago
actually.. you're wrong. In the comic book (the original material) Oswald Cobblepot is a corrupted billionare thug.. like Bernie Maddof meets John Gotti..and originally was a short.. round.. pudgy.. arrogant bastard.. with a fasination of birds. Not a Mutant bird man... like what tim burton did to him. Plus.. this is was about the revamp to Batman the Animated series.. not The Batman.. 2 completely different shows.
ZeroAzrael614 2 years ago
I think what they should do for the penguin in the Chris Nolan series is like make the penguin be played by Philip Hofmen Seymour he'd be a great penguin and they should make him in the Chris Nolan series is make the penguin very strong like for example like when he punches someone the person gets pushed against the wall by his strength kind of like the Kingpin and when he uses the Umbarrel he uses it to whack henchmen with it if they fail at something or when he torches somebody
5648378 2 years ago
Dude, punctuation is your friend.
xLIFERUINERx777 2 years ago
LOL!!!
JoeBird76 2 years ago
dude.. you are a fucking genius.. for real
joshthegoth 2 years ago
scarecrow and riddler best villians
GamexReviewx 2 years ago
id lik the final model of penguin in the new batman .show
and my best batman villains are 1:joker.2:croc
xXijerk0xX 2 years ago