Not a big deal, but a smart player would watch their buff/debuff list with a fiddle on the enemy team, and soraka should've known you were there at 1:50 because she had the -10 MR debuff. Some people don't get that. :\
@enryux Hmm, well for bot lane a support is probably switching between playing Tetris and actually playing the game and the AD carry is watching Cat videos in windowed mode, so true. =p
cant do that shaco red buff thing, it still work? tried even with 15 flat ap from quints and it still doesnt kill it. Or do you get brand to pillar of flame them?
@xWhatTheMoosex Sir , could you please tell me how to down red like that , because my boxes disapear , always one creep left , sometimes i can down it like that but im scared of fail , can u tell me how succes it without wiping
@Skakavac524130 I'm wondering the same thing. He doesn't seem to be using any AP runes. He might have a tiny bit of CDR in there, but either way I just can't manage to do it like he did. Red is always left with a bit too much HP to die, or the lizards are left alive.
@hexcaster Since youtube has no form of editing. I actually did some experimenting. The best way to do it seems to be to get there and put your first box at 30s. You then have to be almost instantaneous, as you have to take the +4 AP mastery, and the 4% CDR mastery (It changes everything.) You must get 6 boxes, 4 of which must focus the red, one each on the small lizards.
@Skakavac524130 Unfortunately, I don't think you can do it alone. If you watch the minimap, Brand stays near the camp until after it spawns. So, I guess this relies on Brand using his pillar on the camp to damage it.
@Wafflez98 First of all by str I assume you mean AD. boxes doesnt scale with ad and deals magic damage. If you look at the map, he gets probably a pillar from brand so the boxes kill the red and the minions :)
@thethreestuges I think you can pretty much use any rune page and masteries, probably 21/0/9 though taking AP ones but archmage(not sure about masteries but I got it to work like that). The trick is that you need an AoE caster in mid to damage all of red camp. So boxes on small lizards can start doing damage to big lizard. I was unable to do it my self but I watched it again and I saw brand there doing work.
@SnappleMan It's all in the right placement of the boxes. You need to be REALLY precise because if you'll place them in a bad way they'll just focus small lizards and that's why it doesn't work.
It's nice and all if it works out, but if the gank somehow fails, you AND your laine partner get SOOO behind because you were not farming and he was sharing his exp with you, unless you can gank quickly with the sneak gank, personally I don't think the risk is worth (except for that shaco gank that is)
The gank is cool, but the problem is, when enemy gets a SINGLE ward it is over, or they are clever enough not try to fight, leaving your teammates underlvled
@markooo01 I've done this personally, it's not QUITE as fast, but you smite red before running away and run straight to the gankable lane. Maybe 2-3 seconds later than you would be.
Your first bloods? Not sure why you deserve them any more than they do. A kill for your team is a kill for your team, better for them to get it than for the enemy to get away
@vearheart42 That was once though. He said it like because he was the jungler he always deserved the kills on ganks. I totally agree that the taric should not have taken the kill, that was pretty bad.
... you spent so much time in lane hiding to get a kill and burst 2 flashes on your team to get a kill on soraka... for fiddle this makes sense as his jungle revolves around solid ganks but don't expect to do this for other junglers
What runes and masteries are you running? Because I cannot figure out how you possibly killed Red Buff with only 4 boxes. Two of my boxes aggro the small minions and two boxes aggro the lizard.
@jly911 its generally worth it if you're sure you can get the kill as enemy champions are worth exp and they'll be denied exp when u push minions to tower
Nice ganks !
Yayann54 3 days ago
disliked for sucking through your teeth every 10 seconds.
RawrRobbie 2 weeks ago 2
Love the videos. You got a subscriber :b
Chris7850 1 month ago
Not a big deal, but a smart player would watch their buff/debuff list with a fiddle on the enemy team, and soraka should've known you were there at 1:50 because she had the -10 MR debuff. Some people don't get that. :\
MasterChief4781 1 month ago 3
@MasterChief4781 good point but only for the top 0,01% of players ;)
Not everyone is constantly watching their debuffs / buffs even with an enemy fiddle ganker
enryux 2 weeks ago
@enryux Hmm, well for bot lane a support is probably switching between playing Tetris and actually playing the game and the AD carry is watching Cat videos in windowed mode, so true. =p
MasterChief4781 2 weeks ago
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cant do that shaco red buff thing, it still work? tried even with 15 flat ap from quints and it still doesnt kill it. Or do you get brand to pillar of flame them?
tatybojangle 1 month ago
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tatybojangle 1 month ago
How many boxes are at the red buff for kill him ?
ShacoEdits 1 month ago
@ShacoEdits 5exactly and u leave him and go for blue
imSexyAndAllKnowIT 1 month ago
Someone tried that on me and failed hardcore go to my channel to see it, also sent a video response on this video
V0nk3r 2 months ago
''The fate is mine'' is so stealer! omg O.o
IFyun 2 months ago
~some tea with your BAIT?
kidax123 2 months ago
note that Brand is waiting near the red buff and he leaves after it's spawned. I assume he leashed it.
bmdeerwester 2 months ago
48 kills taric gg
serdar0wnz 2 months ago
very insightful
jeffdaking 2 months ago
this is even more viable because red buff now also gives slow to single target spells
psycl0n3 2 months ago
OMG i know you what the moose! we have taken the first bloodwith you 2 times. but it was about 7 mounts ago :D
Rxill 2 months ago
What was your masteries and rune set up for shaco?
lxAgentxl 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@lxAgentxl Doesnt matter since new jungle is not like that.
DarKSpideR99 2 months ago
haha its you again moose! im Rely... how come i havent played you lately? i went back to 1700 and they still ban sion or lose to kassadin :((
Dwelve1 2 months ago
Shows the shaco gank, doesn't show how to do it.
rasmusxp 2 months ago 10
@rasmusxp scumbag steve i guess
Maaniiek 2 months ago
imo only good tips I've seen on youtube xD
edraman 2 months ago
Amazing!
funnyanimationguy 2 months ago
great tips!
BluePaintedChair 2 months ago
No to killt the red with 5 boxes you have to have perfect placement so the boxes fear goes off 3 times causing your passive to do more damage.
RevoHiRuleZ 2 months ago
just played with you, i got first blood watching this video during the loading :) haha - the shyvana
pkabubupk 2 months ago 14
@pkabubupk Pro gaming extreme!
xWhatTheMoosex 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@xWhatTheMoosex Sir , could you please tell me how to down red like that , because my boxes disapear , always one creep left , sometimes i can down it like that but im scared of fail , can u tell me how succes it without wiping
Skakavac524130 2 months ago
@Skakavac524130 I'm wondering the same thing. He doesn't seem to be using any AP runes. He might have a tiny bit of CDR in there, but either way I just can't manage to do it like he did. Red is always left with a bit too much HP to die, or the lizards are left alive.
hexcaster 2 months ago
@hexcaster Since youtube has no form of editing. I actually did some experimenting. The best way to do it seems to be to get there and put your first box at 30s. You then have to be almost instantaneous, as you have to take the +4 AP mastery, and the 4% CDR mastery (It changes everything.) You must get 6 boxes, 4 of which must focus the red, one each on the small lizards.
hexcaster 2 months ago
@Skakavac524130 Unfortunately, I don't think you can do it alone. If you watch the minimap, Brand stays near the camp until after it spawns. So, I guess this relies on Brand using his pillar on the camp to damage it.
SicariidaeX 2 months ago
@SicariidaeX In this case it might be true, whoever I've seen shaco boxes in game that solo lizard without help.
menvabrada 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@xWhatTheMoosex thx for gank tip damn it work sooo good lol
trapsmaker 2 months ago
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Everything is great, but actually ganking Heimer with 5/0 Swain is not really a gank. It's just masacre :D
Delgado26 2 months ago
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Delgado26 2 months ago
What are your runes and masteries though? I use the same box setup with Armor Pen and Str Marks, Str Quints, yet the 5 boxes just doesn't cut it.
Wafflez98 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@Wafflez98 Dude, the boxes doesnt scale with ad...
Stepedk 2 months ago
@Wafflez98 First of all by str I assume you mean AD. boxes doesnt scale with ad and deals magic damage. If you look at the map, he gets probably a pillar from brand so the boxes kill the red and the minions :)
Stepedk 2 months ago
really good
nachituuz 2 months ago
@thethreestuges I think you can pretty much use any rune page and masteries, probably 21/0/9 though taking AP ones but archmage(not sure about masteries but I got it to work like that). The trick is that you need an AoE caster in mid to damage all of red camp. So boxes on small lizards can start doing damage to big lizard. I was unable to do it my self but I watched it again and I saw brand there doing work.
Glenchoi89 2 months ago
useful tips, and logical. subscribed
ricex2 2 months ago
do you need specific masteris and rune pages for the shaco level 2 red gank?
thethreestuges 2 months ago
Great video, I'm now gonna try ganking earlier on my junglers. :D
Wonton2006 2 months ago
lane gank?
WeKnowYou12 2 months ago
Which runes and masteries did you take on Shaco for that to work?
avoidconfusion 2 months ago
Love this. Definitely a higher elo level of gank that not everybody understands.
Turtledunkz 2 months ago
This just straight up doesn't work. Even with 6 traps, 13ap, magic pen, and masteries geared toward it.
SnappleMan 2 months ago
@SnappleMan It's all in the right placement of the boxes. You need to be REALLY precise because if you'll place them in a bad way they'll just focus small lizards and that's why it doesn't work.
Azzie1223 2 months ago
@SnappleMan Just tested it right now without magic pen and ap, and still got it to work. Has to be where you placed your boxes.
Lythchan7o2 2 months ago
@Lythchan7o2 Brand throws down a W on the whole camp. It's not due to shaco or his loadout.
SnappleMan 2 months ago
@SnappleMan
5 should be enough, they just need to be placed at the right place
HellTheHeaven 2 months ago
What runes and masteries do you use? I really want to know D:
UnchainedPsych0 2 months ago
Where are you based man? Sounds like the west country =] great vid x
tool4evalol 2 months ago
thats actually very helpful and a promotion for good gaming/behavior. you should submit this to riot or something.
peffiSC2source 2 months ago
what were your runes/masteries? could you put them in the description?
3vanozoo 2 months ago
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hothtrooper4 2 months ago
Very Nice ! i subbed :)
EnzoKnol 2 months ago
what were your shaco runes mate?
RixBriann 2 months ago
It's nice and all if it works out, but if the gank somehow fails, you AND your laine partner get SOOO behind because you were not farming and he was sharing his exp with you, unless you can gank quickly with the sneak gank, personally I don't think the risk is worth (except for that shaco gank that is)
HellCookieJar 2 months ago
u have a BULLSH/T LOAD OF PATIENCE
shobruno 2 months ago
Damn this guy is good. ._.
kattillion 2 months ago in playlist More videos from xWhatTheMoosex
Very informative. Great work :]
IKenSpelGud 2 months ago
nice to have commentary from a clear voice.
so many of the other vids i've seen, with ppl you can barely understand.
rdseraphica 2 months ago
How many boxes did you spawn?
yoortjuh 2 months ago
@yoortjuh 4
Xyphorium6578 2 months ago
I'm pretty sure this guy is not British but just amazingly good at reproducing the accent. :D
haerual 2 months ago
The ninja gank is referred to as a " brush gank. " At least in high ELO.
TechniKal2011 2 months ago
@TechniKal2011 no, its in-lane gank
Streetlolz 2 months ago
What part of britain you from dude? :)
Trueomega93 2 months ago
Some1 need to pull red, like in the video. If not, u cant do the same.
MegaMozger 2 months ago
British accent, huehue.
iRickertz 2 months ago
I like how your accent somehow makes you ten times more legit
Legacy0901 2 months ago 44
The "ninja" gank is actually called In-lane gank. Which runes and masteries do you use for this?
Streetlolz 2 months ago
@Streetlolz That's not true, Me and every 1 know call it ninja ganks (Before ever seeing this vid).
jeraz 2 months ago
@jeraz its been called an in-lane gank since forver
Streetlolz 2 months ago
Wait.. what do you mean by you will have to find a new duo queue partner o0
haha nice vid there man keep it up, its nice playing with u boy
XxFateisminexX 2 months ago
Very good video sir.
xoxelo 2 months ago
I am on North American server, but I wanted to look up all your runes, how do I do it?
xXmilesdavisXx 2 months ago
awesome
didoparkour 2 months ago
In some cases you waste so much jungle time. This is in no way "pro" and pretty standard.
Neadoe 2 months ago
@Neadoe well i think the same, waiting so long for a ninja gank is not worth it, especially not when u need to flash to get them
Brotzkopf 2 months ago
dat brand helped u man
toxic112 2 months ago
Who is Shraka.
mandokir 2 months ago
I've realised that still after so much jungle games, I still have no idea what it really means , ty
very helpful guide
somebuudee 2 months ago
What are you saying at the start and why
joshuaaawon 2 months ago
What runes did you use for the shaco thing?
Goth47 2 months ago
The gank is cool, but the problem is, when enemy gets a SINGLE ward it is over, or they are clever enough not try to fight, leaving your teammates underlvled
flytoskyyy 2 months ago
On the Shaco clip Brand helped you with red right? Atleast he was there and lost mana.
Are those boxes enough if you don't get that pillar?
markooo01 2 months ago
@markooo01 I've done this personally, it's not QUITE as fast, but you smite red before running away and run straight to the gankable lane. Maybe 2-3 seconds later than you would be.
dscarrillo24 2 months ago
Your first bloods? Not sure why you deserve them any more than they do. A kill for your team is a kill for your team, better for them to get it than for the enemy to get away
TheGeikoGecko 2 months ago
@TheGeikoGecko A taric took the first blood, taric is not a carry he's utility meaning he's good without any kills.
vearheart42 2 months ago
@vearheart42 That was once though. He said it like because he was the jungler he always deserved the kills on ganks. I totally agree that the taric should not have taken the kill, that was pretty bad.
TheGeikoGecko 2 months ago
We have 4 UK players and one in the US who will be returning around September. IM me if you'd like to try some of our guys out.
orhanc1 2 months ago
great video, had to comment, its great to see a well thought out video...so many videos are just pieced together terribly.
BOOSTRED 2 months ago
You can also take about 10 AP quints, stack some few boxes on red and do blue right when he spawns, leaves you with doublebuff + boots at about 2:10.
Freddy6670 2 months ago
Called a bush gank bro.
Oathlord 2 months ago
@Zorrian he is british he was playing on EU :D
JstarTube 2 months ago
... you spent so much time in lane hiding to get a kill and burst 2 flashes on your team to get a kill on soraka... for fiddle this makes sense as his jungle revolves around solid ganks but don't expect to do this for other junglers
akoreankid1 2 months ago
@akoreankid1
Summoners are meant to be used, and they were used to get them first blood AND 2 assists.
l2play
Lewdick 2 months ago
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Level 5? Must be fun crushing newbs on your smurf account.
Zorrian 2 months ago
@Zorrian The clips are taken from Ranked Queue 1600-1700 ELO, apart from the Shaco and Swain games, which were both normal queue.
xWhatTheMoosex 2 months ago 34
@xWhatTheMoosex Kinda weird that 1700 elo doesnt cv bushes after push or have it warded. Bad supports maybe.
MRmaxspeer 2 months ago
@xWhatTheMoosex Ye hes right :) I won once vs him ( But he really had ba team :p Ranked game)
DJRemixFreak 2 months ago
@xWhatTheMoosex people went morg/trist bot lane in a 1600-1700 elo ranked game? haha. good video though mate.
ryolastangel 2 months ago
@ryolastangel morgana can support surprisingly well.
Nekrodream 2 months ago
@Zorrian He is on EU server (see title: "British Gamer")
PolynomiaI 2 months ago
What have you done? you give 309 people secrets in ganking :O
dammit. no more easy ganks from now on :D
Sergent118 2 months ago
Really amazing video. I play at 1600 elo and even I noticed some things I could do better.
themanman45 2 months ago
Good video, quick question. What if your gank fails don't you fall way behind in the jungle?
prod28 2 months ago
Nice Guide keep up the gud work
Shini2g 2 months ago
try not to do that weird suck in noise all the time. Otherwise great video.
kmorley111 2 months ago 49
@kmorley111 haha I totally agree with this!
xWhatTheMoosex 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos 30
@xWhatTheMoosex don't worry about it. Stephen Fry does it all the time and he is a legend.
agore30 2 months ago
@xWhatTheMoosex can u tell me what masteries you using , cause i cant down red , my boxes wipe
Skakavac524130 2 months ago
Great video, keep it up.
TheRsPkVidGuy 2 months ago
what runes are you using?
Drizzcss 2 months ago
6 boxes needed and one exp quint, at least for me ;d
krosa69 2 months ago
What runes and masteries are you running? Because I cannot figure out how you possibly killed Red Buff with only 4 boxes. Two of my boxes aggro the small minions and two boxes aggro the lizard.
xyzunit 2 months ago
@xyzunit yeah i dont get it either i even tried with some AP runes (22 starting AP) and it still didnt work...
Trowter 2 months ago
@Trowter Notice how the brand helped out
1cactushand 2 months ago
@1cactushand No help is needed. I can do it alone with 24/6/0, 1 exp quints, 2 dmg quints, yellow armor and blue ap flat.
4 boxes behind red and one in each side
krosa69 2 months ago
@1cactushand oh yeah.... i wonder why he neglected to mention that...
Trowter 2 months ago
@xyzunit If boxes are in the EXACT right position then they all hit the big lizard
JPD231 2 months ago
@JPD231 But the tricky part of this route is to kill ALL the camp to reach lvl 2, not to kill only the lizard
krosa69 2 months ago
I believe brush ganks are simpler. Plus thats wut most people have been calling them beforehand :P
Demonoxify 2 months ago
@Demonoxify And by that I mean brush ganks = ninja ganks afaik
Demonoxify 2 months ago
lol ninja ganks = exp stealing
jly911 2 months ago
@jly911 its generally worth it if you're sure you can get the kill as enemy champions are worth exp and they'll be denied exp when u push minions to tower
romulan1080 2 months ago
You're a fuckin awesome player!
RandyBiggestFan 2 months ago
nice gank shaco man
0Allard01 2 months ago
2:00 wassup best nunu in EUW! :D
cactu 2 months ago
wow nice wuality and gaming <3
Jonathanwonder 2 months ago
What is your shaco build with runes and masteries? Thats an incredibly good strategy.
ExcessiveOrange 2 months ago
I doubt the 4 boxes shaco witouth AP runes still work with the jungle hotfix ? or I'm I wrong ?
ropefly135 2 months ago
@ropefly135 This Video was recorded Yesterday.
xWhatTheMoosex 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos 47
@xWhatTheMoosex Do you need the runes in order to do the shaco red > gank? Or can I run armor pen red/armor yellow/mr blues?
Jsqaured 2 months ago
@ropefly135 he has 6 starting ap
TofuAtttack 2 months ago
@ropefly135 He had 5 boxes, not 4, if you look at the time and at the boxes closely....
16dots 2 months ago
What is he saying at the beginning?
4LPH4x1337 2 months ago
IT'S CALLED BUSHES!!!!
xDenis11 2 months ago
Really good!! :D
Sethagrius 2 months ago
That shaco route seems really strong, gotta try it sometime
jenecomprends 2 months ago
Great video. I'm definitely going to try out some of your techniques.
MeusSententia 2 months ago
good video mayne
ShakeITyEA 2 months ago
nice video pls continue doing more of them!
MrGinolol 2 months ago
Fck dis guy is godlike :$ My favourite UK player of da world DOOD <3
MrNooShame 2 months ago
I like your videos a lot. I've seen them all. Keep at it!
krzr81 2 months ago