This is super helpful for me. I am pretty new to fighters, especially the behind the scenes details on fighters so I find this quite illuminating. Thanks!!
Thanks for the information, Jago and the rest of you working on these. I hope you know that some of us are grateful to your devotion to helping out the fighting game community!
I don't see why Mike Ross isn't liked. He has a great personality, charisma, and is one hell of a good SF4 player. And before u shout fraud, how many people chant "I believe" in your matches? Granted, he sucks at UMVC3, but that's not his main game anyway......
I already know what's been talked about in these 2 episodes, but they're VERY informative, and I think all new players should at least watch them to learn something new. (Provided they're interested in improving, of course)
Thx for the video Jago don't have any questions atm but just wanted to show appreciation. I was a bit fuzzy on what some of the frame data meant specifically this cleared it all up for me thanks.
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You're probably going to explain this next video anyway, but I have a followup question that only specifically related to Marvel. How does hitstun deterioration work and how does the DHC glitch work.
@CrunchyShef I can answer your second question: the dhc glitch is gone in UMVC3, but, if your still curious, basically you would dhc into a counter or powerup super, or any super that's fast enough to allow for a followup combo, so that you could reset all damage scaling on your combo thus allowing for easy 100% combos. If you don't understand damage scaling, it's basically your moves are getting weaker as you keep whaling on your opponent.
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great job and great help! Fcjago (ah that killer instinct) is really great at this keep it up man! the downvotes are from the "HEY I KNOW EVERYTHING AND ILL BEAT ANYBODY!" kinda guys... sad
I like these videos better when Jago talks down to the viewers like in the first than when he talks to them like in the second, but this is still great stuff.
The active frames probably start at 2 frames and end at 4 frames. Frame 1 is probably the startup frame and frame 5 is probably the recovery frame. The active frames are diffrent for each character.
Sentinel's launcher actually has 49 frames of animation.You don't just add up the startup, active and recovery frames, because the last startup frame and first active frame occur simultaneously, so you must subtract 1 from the sum of the startup, active, and recovery frames.
Cant wait for the next episode.. i would really like to know about hitstun and why the game feels it is fair that Chris cant do his old B&B combo due to hitstun but Dante is still allowed to do those ridicules long combos...
Damn I love this guide series, even though I already know everything that is said in here, and I am a pretty knowladgeable person when it comes to FG, this guides are so well-done that I enjoy simple watching them!
Keep it up Jago, even though youre trying to play a role of a jack-ass in a FGC, you are clearly not one, and you better off when youre not trying to pose as one, but whatever, I still enjoy youre videos and youre Trish gameplay (:
@clouddark23 the more you know the better, but he used an example saying average light attack is 5 frames boom there you go, and now all you need to know is the exceptions. Knowing the exceptions is part of learning how characters match against each other, the other part is learning what options characters have against each other
Awesome video, awesome series (so far). Great information, and good to see real fighters like Jago and the FC guys who ain't a-scared of new blood coming in and growing the community.
Question on the subject: If my opponent has a 5 frame attack and I use a 3 frame attack, but start mine 3 frames later than his... does that mean he beat me 5<6? Or is it just a 5 vs 3 comparison when the to attacks connect and resolve? Sorry if that was covered in the vid and I missed it. Thanks in advance!
Well of course you have to take into account that you started it 3 frames later...why wouldn't you, frames are a measure of time. So yes in your case you will lose.
Awesome video, I learned a lot. I was wondering if you could do a joy stick tutorial? I recently acquired a new fight stick and im having a hard time figuring out how to use it. For a guy who has only used controllers his whole life it seams impossible to do a shoryuken properly. Most of the time I find myself scribbling the stick like its a pencil trying to get a damn shoryuken out online.
@Doomsday51225 it took me a month of hardcore SSF4 to get really confortable with my stick. Just keep playing and eventually you'll never want to touch a pad in fighting games. Practice throwing 30 dragon punches in a row from each side before you play, and take time in training mode to grind out exectuion
Not necessary really...you use it to help you discover counters to the opponent or what the opponent can counter your moves with. You then memorize the counters to their moves and the punishes to your moves, not the actual frames. Of course no one's stopping you from memorizing the frame data but it's really not necessary.
@JKPrimeable It's actually surprising how little he mocks viewers in this series. I can't help but imagining producer with big stick who hit Andre with it every time he calling us morons =]
hmmm so startup frames (keep it low) active (keep it high) recovery (keep it low) hitsun (keep it high) and blockstun (keep it high)? are these in a nutshell what to look for?
@AlanJLS7 Yes, that would be the ideal move for zoning. Sadly, all moves won't have this godlike status for you. What you want to do is check to see what are the safest moves overall for your character so they have frame advantage, and learn the proper spacings and setups for those particular moves.
Yes but if you're memorizing it that way then you probably don't understand it at all...
Also keep in mind that active frames to be high isn't always a good idea. If a move whiffs, the startup, active and recovery frames should be added up into one final value to determine recovery frames. So in this sense, a high active frames count can be a bad thing if it whiffs.
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I don't know how people can downvote this video so much. It's very informative - especially for new comers. Possibly, it's people buttdevastated over Mike Ross' recent loss?
I don't know if my last comment was read, but it's great to see the series moving on to combo creation! I was worried the next episode would be about button tactics (plinking, double taps, etc.)
I've always thought that Marvel was a more visual game where frame data is less vital, whereas a game like Street Fighter is a game where you NEED to know frame data or you'll get bodied.
this is actually really good show, dont know why is getting so many dislikes :(, is because is not a shooter?? or is it because is Jago??, well i''ll be looking for the next episode, keep up the good vids :)
@MasterDarlux cause its on machinma and isnt CoD and some 13 yr old bad mouthing how bad his opposition was. useful stuff on machinma seems to get down rated pretty fast. (FYI this isnt me knocking CoD. This is me knocking the fact that if it isnt CoD this days it gets un appreciated mostly)
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this is really really good
kumaSOevl 1 month ago
great video, very helpful
leoh215 1 month ago
This is super helpful for me. I am pretty new to fighters, especially the behind the scenes details on fighters so I find this quite illuminating. Thanks!!
Koalayogi 1 month ago
Thanks for the information, Jago and the rest of you working on these. I hope you know that some of us are grateful to your devotion to helping out the fighting game community!
MrBobeche 1 month ago
Could someone answer me how priority works? What happens when two characters swing out simultaneously?
Stammer6 1 month ago
@Stammer6 one will beat out the other, the only problem is noone practices to see what's stronger before heading out in the field
neon6 1 month ago
I don't see why Mike Ross isn't liked. He has a great personality, charisma, and is one hell of a good SF4 player. And before u shout fraud, how many people chant "I believe" in your matches? Granted, he sucks at UMVC3, but that's not his main game anyway......
Cpointman417 1 month ago
Hmm by watching your videos will I become as good a player as Mike Ross?
HamalSharatan 1 month ago
AMATARETSU
so nice he said it thrice
belthegor 1 month ago
Video is slightly wrong, spacing does not affect frame data.
Spacing affects the results of frame data.
I.e. ami's crouching light still is faster, but due to range differences the frame advantage doesn't matter and ami gets hit by wesker.
Vimesey17 1 month ago
What a dick.
jwong83 1 month ago
I already know what's been talked about in these 2 episodes, but they're VERY informative, and I think all new players should at least watch them to learn something new. (Provided they're interested in improving, of course)
s0n1ch3r0 1 month ago
anyone else notice he shaves between 4:05 and 4:06
DedEdInTheShed 1 month ago
My Question for your next video would be. What exactly is damage scaling and what is a Reset!!!?? Please vote up so Jago can see
SammySosa99 1 month ago
GOOD SHIT JAGO have not seen anything this detailed since vesper arcade super street fighter 4 guide.
bumfire007 1 month ago
Andre "The Teacher" Lambert.
dfactory 1 month ago
Great guide Jago.
thraphelga 1 month ago
Thx for the video Jago don't have any questions atm but just wanted to show appreciation. I was a bit fuzzy on what some of the frame data meant specifically this cleared it all up for me thanks.
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franksrel 1 month ago
You're probably going to explain this next video anyway, but I have a followup question that only specifically related to Marvel. How does hitstun deterioration work and how does the DHC glitch work.
CrunchyShef 1 month ago
@CrunchyShef I can answer your second question: the dhc glitch is gone in UMVC3, but, if your still curious, basically you would dhc into a counter or powerup super, or any super that's fast enough to allow for a followup combo, so that you could reset all damage scaling on your combo thus allowing for easy 100% combos. If you don't understand damage scaling, it's basically your moves are getting weaker as you keep whaling on your opponent.
13DuctTapeNinja13 1 month ago
@13DuctTapeNinja13 Ah, I'd heard somewhere that it was still alive and well. I'm sure Jago will cover the first part of my question anyway next time.
CrunchyShef 1 month ago
A great tutorial, Jago! Good job!
Ejtan 1 month ago
When you were talking about this, you might have taken into consideration super armor and whatnot.
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IgnitioNNatioN 1 month ago
great job and great help! Fcjago (ah that killer instinct) is really great at this keep it up man! the downvotes are from the "HEY I KNOW EVERYTHING AND ILL BEAT ANYBODY!" kinda guys... sad
brunuman 1 month ago
The glossary was what I needed the most, thanks for all your hard work!
Ilyere 1 month ago
I'm having trouble with my assist coming out late on my longer combos. Why is that? I have no problem when it's early in the combo.
BerglandJohnson 1 month ago
This will definitely help new players. Good work jago
ragvalodore 1 month ago
@fingercramp
It's Amaterasu.
SimTheDog 1 month ago
09:21 Amateretsu? O.o
kupowns 1 month ago
beard keeps changing
elmaro1231 1 month ago
I like these videos better when Jago talks down to the viewers like in the first than when he talks to them like in the second, but this is still great stuff.
KRCElJefe 1 month ago
numbers dont lie. *says that 50/60 frames adds ends up being .9 seconds instead of .83...*
HenakiX 1 month ago
I am now a Jago fan.
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YourCatchyTune 1 month ago
Quick question if a move is 5 frames does it mean it actives frames start at 5 or 4?
Autonomisc 1 month ago
@Autonomisc
The active frames probably start at 2 frames and end at 4 frames. Frame 1 is probably the startup frame and frame 5 is probably the recovery frame. The active frames are diffrent for each character.
22Travail 1 month ago
@Autonomisc It means the first active frame starts at the 5th frame.
smileymike101 1 month ago
Sentinel's launcher actually has 49 frames of animation.You don't just add up the startup, active and recovery frames, because the last startup frame and first active frame occur simultaneously, so you must subtract 1 from the sum of the startup, active, and recovery frames.
smileymike101 1 month ago
this was amazing all around............ good stuff FingerCramp
lanofrose 1 month ago
even though i know all this stuff, very informative for noobs so that they dont get scared playing marvel
allan88121 1 month ago
Anyone notice that jago is wearing the same shit from his part 1 guide
DMCXReaper 1 month ago
Even though I don't play UMvC3 this explanation of frame data will be helpful to my lvling in street fighter. Thanks dude!
RowdyMuffin 1 month ago
Cant wait for the next episode.. i would really like to know about hitstun and why the game feels it is fair that Chris cant do his old B&B combo due to hitstun but Dante is still allowed to do those ridicules long combos...
Falgren 1 month ago
This is a really great "smi-advance" tutorial, keep up the great work.
Rikortez 1 month ago 13
Damn I love this guide series, even though I already know everything that is said in here, and I am a pretty knowladgeable person when it comes to FG, this guides are so well-done that I enjoy simple watching them!
Keep it up Jago, even though youre trying to play a role of a jack-ass in a FGC, you are clearly not one, and you better off when youre not trying to pose as one, but whatever, I still enjoy youre videos and youre Trish gameplay (:
Ganishka96 1 month ago 5
@clouddark23 the more you know the better, but he used an example saying average light attack is 5 frames boom there you go, and now all you need to know is the exceptions. Knowing the exceptions is part of learning how characters match against each other, the other part is learning what options characters have against each other
Baz31415926 1 month ago
7:28 i see/hear that you got WinRich to help with making your videos -_-*
Caucasian619 1 month ago
I lol'd at this a lot. This is great. Now I don't have to teach my noob friends about all of this./
Thanks Jago!
PoetsGhost 1 month ago
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ReviewerPaul 1 month ago
Awesome video, awesome series (so far). Great information, and good to see real fighters like Jago and the FC guys who ain't a-scared of new blood coming in and growing the community.
Question on the subject: If my opponent has a 5 frame attack and I use a 3 frame attack, but start mine 3 frames later than his... does that mean he beat me 5<6? Or is it just a 5 vs 3 comparison when the to attacks connect and resolve? Sorry if that was covered in the vid and I missed it. Thanks in advance!
DavidAVest 1 month ago
@DavidAVest
Well of course you have to take into account that you started it 3 frames later...why wouldn't you, frames are a measure of time. So yes in your case you will lose.
Emillll 1 month ago
Awesome video, I learned a lot. I was wondering if you could do a joy stick tutorial? I recently acquired a new fight stick and im having a hard time figuring out how to use it. For a guy who has only used controllers his whole life it seams impossible to do a shoryuken properly. Most of the time I find myself scribbling the stick like its a pencil trying to get a damn shoryuken out online.
Doomsday51225 1 month ago
@Doomsday51225 it took me a month of hardcore SSF4 to get really confortable with my stick. Just keep playing and eventually you'll never want to touch a pad in fighting games. Practice throwing 30 dragon punches in a row from each side before you play, and take time in training mode to grind out exectuion
Kenmasterpiece 1 month ago
So do you guys memorize frames completely? or only for your specific characters
Clouddark23 1 month ago
@Clouddark23
Not necessary really...you use it to help you discover counters to the opponent or what the opponent can counter your moves with. You then memorize the counters to their moves and the punishes to your moves, not the actual frames. Of course no one's stopping you from memorizing the frame data but it's really not necessary.
Emillll 1 month ago
@JKPrimeable It's actually surprising how little he mocks viewers in this series. I can't help but imagining producer with big stick who hit Andre with it every time he calling us morons =]
casukofer 1 month ago
There really needs to be a fighting game terms dictionary, for all terms, slang, and definitions.
Rubberbandman1991 1 month ago
@Rubberbandman1991 googling "Glossary of fighting games" will make you shit breaks I guarantee it >_>
casukofer 1 month ago
Jago has his goatee during the intro but then he doesn't 0_o
KwEs154 1 month ago
lolz best guide
noremacx8 1 month ago
QUESTION: where do i find all the frame data for umvc3?
onis 1 month ago
@onis in the guide
bobtheman1y 1 month ago
seriously thank you for making this. this is really really straight forward and easy to follow.
onis 1 month ago
Umvc3 is a game for babies. Jago is so homo.
chumching 1 month ago
Really enjoyed this.
Rukunetsu 1 month ago
Nice guide
BudokaiMaster 1 month ago
hmmm so startup frames (keep it low) active (keep it high) recovery (keep it low) hitsun (keep it high) and blockstun (keep it high)? are these in a nutshell what to look for?
AlanJLS7 1 month ago
@AlanJLS7 Yes, that would be the ideal move for zoning. Sadly, all moves won't have this godlike status for you. What you want to do is check to see what are the safest moves overall for your character so they have frame advantage, and learn the proper spacings and setups for those particular moves.
Rubberbandman1991 1 month ago
@AlanJLS7
Yes but if you're memorizing it that way then you probably don't understand it at all...
Also keep in mind that active frames to be high isn't always a good idea. If a move whiffs, the startup, active and recovery frames should be added up into one final value to determine recovery frames. So in this sense, a high active frames count can be a bad thing if it whiffs.
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I don't know how people can downvote this video so much. It's very informative - especially for new comers. Possibly, it's people buttdevastated over Mike Ross' recent loss?
MarkMacDonald 1 month ago 28
@MarkMacDonald
Machinima subscribers?
KhasarDeTemplari 1 month ago
@MarkMacDonald Seriously, this is a great video. That breaks down important semi-basic info step by step.
albinobeau2 1 month ago
sweet vid, make one for mix ups!
ichor20 1 month ago
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X3DCLASSIFY3 1 month ago
Asian baby breaking down frames, was definitely Justin Wong.
BKV0Damien 1 month ago
Fingercramp is always godlike.
KenruSunari 1 month ago
Can you explain hitstun deterioration? When does it kick in and how much it deteriorates at certain numbers in combo?
theSkarekro 1 month ago
can you explain the limit on wall/ground bounces, otgs, etc. on marvel? also unblockables
corruptale 1 month ago
How do I make unblockable setups?
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I don't know if my last comment was read, but it's great to see the series moving on to combo creation! I was worried the next episode would be about button tactics (plinking, double taps, etc.)
natedoggrevolution 1 month ago
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That baby shit is so annoying...
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I really want that wallpaper if I have a kid...Or for myself
SnIpRu 1 month ago
You really should commentate the glossary, no one wants to read that crap.
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firemedic916 1 month ago
I've always thought that Marvel was a more visual game where frame data is less vital, whereas a game like Street Fighter is a game where you NEED to know frame data or you'll get bodied.
SuperKrazo 1 month ago
all these dislikes just cuz theres some numbers involved in a fighting game. damn babies, whats your IQ?
midnightthunderboy4 1 month ago
lol, " A-ma-TOURETTES-u"
flightoftheicarus 1 month ago
Why is it so hard to do Shoryuken motions on a D-pad?
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this is actually really good show, dont know why is getting so many dislikes :(, is because is not a shooter?? or is it because is Jago??, well i''ll be looking for the next episode, keep up the good vids :)
MasterDarlux 1 month ago
@MasterDarlux cause its on machinma and isnt CoD and some 13 yr old bad mouthing how bad his opposition was. useful stuff on machinma seems to get down rated pretty fast. (FYI this isnt me knocking CoD. This is me knocking the fact that if it isnt CoD this days it gets un appreciated mostly)
zeran147 1 month ago
@MasterDarlux It's Machinima COD kiddies who can't comprehend what it takes to play fighting games.
ticksmilk 1 month ago
interesting although I don;t need it im glad your helping all the weaker players out there :)
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