If you bought the v8 turbo kit from STS what would you need to do for it to fit the 3.8 v6. I wanna turbo my Camaro with a rear mount turbo and I've seen a couple people do it on here to the v6 but no one has answered
in an automatic car the blow off valve isn't as necessary? um.... were the automatics diesels or something because i think this would still be a very good piece of the equation to have?
@BmxDieseldude i wouldnt skimp, but due to the fact that (dying tranny aside) auto's arent going to miss a shift and if you've turbo'ed, will likely be tuned to shift very quckly, it's not AS necessary. i wouldnt go without either though.
@eclypse256 uh, if you let off the gas - throttle body closes - gasses build up jamming up the flow - slowing/stopping turbine spin - busting turbo's.... any gas powered piston engine on the road that's getting a turbo should have a way of relieving the back pressure built when the throttle body closes.
@BmxDieseldude i never disagreed. there are plenty of factory cars that dont come with a BOV, though. maybe it has to do with the size of the turbos, dunno.
@eclypse256 it's not that they don't have them, but that they are designed to be quiet rather than to shout "look at me". (unless they use recirculation systems like audi/vw where the air is redirected back into the intake before the turbo) same idea - the air just needs to escape to somewhere where it doesn't build up between the throttle body an turbine, because that slows it's rotation suddenly which does damage) I wasn't trying to be a dick, just educating. that did sound ass-ish
@BmxDieseldude ive owned turbo'ed rides - thinking about doing it to my c5 now (thus watching STS videos). i dont think the GNX's were ever bov'ed from the factory? im familiar with recirculating them - i actually recirculated my HKS to quiet it down. but i've seen cars built up aftermarket with plenty of money in the car with no BOV. i always just assumed they knew something i didnt!
This ls1 has 260+, i thought they had 310, shit the lt1s suppose to come with 285 but i guess thats in the high rpms, these guys know their shit but i think someone else should have did the dyno work :D
@warewolfsnimpalas the ls1 does put out over 300 hp but thats net horsepower. from the back of the flywheel to the rear wheels, there's going to be power loss no matter what, so that 260+ hp figure is about right.
i don't like the system but the air filter in a OK position take a look at vw bug lambo, 911 also K&n filter can block oil and water !!! + is washable :) cheer
Wait... so they put a turbo kit on it and ran it on the dyno without tuning it? Who cares about the turbo sucking in water when there is a hole in the piston lol.
that's an LS1 and it's only putting out 260 to the wheels?? my 93 LT1 formula with I/E CHIP 160 STAT 3.73's 121,000mi put down 266 to the wheels and 296 tq to the wheels.
@Skippy585 I've acutally seen some that are creating a little boost at idle. But for the most part from what ive seen the second someone hits the throttle they are creating a decent amount of boost.
I can now see the advantage in this because the engine is receiving clean air cool air form the turbo, I wonder if you can convert your Duramax and Power Stroke or Cummins powered truck to this set up and see an increase in power and fuel economy
The main thing u have to focus on when going for one of these "REALLY downstream" turbo setups, is insulating the exhaust as much as u can, so as to retain as much heat as possible BEFORE the turbine (upstream of the turbine).
With a turbocharged setup like that and with the boot on the filter getting even quite a bit of water shouldn't matter too much. The compressor will cause such heat that it will instantly (almost) vaporize the water. The water getting into it actually might help it by helping cool down the air. Then the boot also helps by not letting much water in there in the first place.
Doesn't work that way......This can easily hydrolock an engine with that air filter position on a rainy day especially if you go through a standing puddle of water
@nam9456 Very small amounts would make it through the filter into the compressor housing, and what did make it into the compressor housing would never make it to the motor before it evaporated. In all reality you would see a benefit from this as it would cool your charge. Look at all the people who run water/methanol kits, both pre and post turbo. Some will get a pooling in the intercooler...but not from small amounts like rain puddles. Dont back your car into a lake and youll be fine.
Water getting into the intake means its getting into the engine.....Uncontrolled liquid water getting into the engine is a serious no no.....Start a car with the engine air intake submerged and see what happens.....
Water injection is a controlled system which vaporizes and controls how much is injected to the engine to reduce combustion temperatures if that's what many of you thinks it sucking in water from the road will do for it...Totally different thing
I have and STS Turbo kit on my 5.3L Silverado. The only modification I made to it was 60 lb/hr injectors which were not necessary with the kit. I'm only using 6-8 lbs of boost with no innercooler. Thats not enough to over power anything in the motor or the transmission. If you begin to use more lbs of boost, thats when you will need to make engine modifications and opt for the innercooler system.
Just wait until the engine blows. Nothing else in the engine or gearbox can handle the extra power and torque. This is what most people forget about when they mess about with cars.
@weed831~ They're not talking about lag, even though they think they are. They are talking about "boost threshold"!. They have invested (financial) interest (conflict of interest) in this STS system. So they are probably lying about the lag ON PURPOSE!
this is by far the dummest set up.. they say if you think you get turbo lag....i no you get turbo lag when you turbo is 100ft from the intake..and they sad they gained 150 hp. dude.. untuned turbo set up. dont get you that good results with just bolt on and run it. they had to tune it. and it dont even say the psi they ran.
@McOrca09 ok i'd be glad to see it from a person and not some lame ass t.v show. im telling you your gunna have boost lag and your gunna need a good tune to gain the hp that they did
seems like if it were rainy yourd be fucked with your air intake 6 inchs off the ground right behind the tire, so that water is sure to spray off of it onto the air filter look at 04:10
I like F-bodys and like tha STS kit cuz it has less turbo lag, more room 2 work in tha engine compartment, colder intake temps means more power per PSI (I would have put tha intercooler on anyway and made it even colder), its cheaper then front mount kits, and it could score some extra money at tha local street racing spot or at tha track. . . I'm gettin a 4G F-body!
I love how they mention you can get more power through tuning IF YOU WANT. I'll tell you one thing, if you just bolt this on and think you're ready to go, you're in for a nasty suprise. Add that much more air to your system without upgrading injectors/tuning, and you're asking for a seriously lean A/F and a popped LS1.
I love how its just a bodda boom bodda bing your done install. Somehow I dont think 10mins and 40 seconds you can have this done like in the video. Editing is a wonderful thing. Can you imagine what a speed bump or any road debris would do to that turbo hanging down like that?
@vinylcollector08 not if it's this system...the intake is now the outlet for the turbo on the exhaust...the only intake comes off of the turbo on the sts system.
WHO in the hell decided to cover up the sound of the dyno run with music?? And that's the only place there's music in the whole show.. WTF. Sound guy is clearly not a car guy.
I'm confused how this turbo system works.. the compressed air goes back to the front of the engine.. but how would the exhaust get to the exhaust pipe since the exhaust is also hooked up to the turbo?
In the land of the blind the man with one eye is king!
The car in the video is CLEARLY an ls1 which you can tell by the polymer intake manifold and visible AIR system! Since this car has the A.I.R system that means this ls1 a PRE-2001...
I'm sceptical about the claimed power gain without tuning. Can stock MAF, injectors, spark timing really cope with, supposedly, 50% more air withot modification? Whilst theoretically less efficient than a close coupled turbo, the idea could still be effective on large displacement engines which aren't short of low end power but need a helping hand up high. Nevertheless, STS don't add credibility to their product by falsely claiming that the set up is superior to front mounted set ups.
@RKG69 i know a turbo is a compressor in technical ways but im saying in terms of actual compression like 10.1:1 thats what im saying. I know that blowers and turbos are considered compressors but i rarely hear people refer to them as that.
i always use to watch this show, i was really into cars when i was a little younger, for some odd reason i fell out of them for a while now im getting back in to them lol, nice kit
A rear mounted turbo system is never going to match the thermal efficiency of convensional turbo set-up. However, the rear-mount systems seem to perform well despite this.
I guess if it provides goood results, then I see no reason why you shouldnt use one.
In any case, its a good overall product. Good vid.
@Elvirx18 The STS kits down require one. Since the intake air travels all the way from the back and doesn't get any engine heat there is no intercooler needed. One other thing I would recommend buying with this kit is a shield for your intake because if you drive in the rain you will have a major problem. This kit is the shit though, I have installed 3 on my friends cars and they are great power adders.
@Treyhtown One was all stock except intake exhaust and a tune other guy had heads and cam work. Stock motor made 450whp modded motor made 570whp with the same kit at the same boost. Biggest thing to watch out for is to get the upgraded injectors with proper oil pressure AFR gauge and that's pretty much it. They make kits with intercoolers but you don't have to get them. Also there is no need for a turbo timer since they are able to cool very well at the back of the car. The results are SCARY lol
@Elvirx18 You don't really need one for a base system up to around 10 psi. Once you start going with a bigger system and pushing more than about 10 psi, you CAN do one... But the Piping going from the rear to the front actually helps cool the air charge.
Alright buddy you win. You own one, I don't. But either way they dynoed there stock z28 and it made a whopping 260whp stock on there dyno. Go cry to them about there false numbers.
nobody is crying! you're the one posting crap saying "nuh uh guys on tv said it has 260whp so that means all f-bodies read bc i believe everything i see on the internet and tv." im just telling you what i know to be true. i eat, sleep, breath and shit these cars. if i dont know something about my car, ill ask someone who knows so i can learn. dont post if you dont know.
no i said a stock automatic z28 makes 260whp on a Mustang Dyno. The Z28 would have made around 280whp on a Dynojet. That is accurate. It takes a new intake and at least a catback to break 300whp with an Auto LS1.
actually no it doesnt. i know for a fact the the '01-'02 ss and ws6 put around 320 to the wheels. my friend Adam owns a '99 Z28 with exhaust, converter, lid and tune. we raced from a roll with the mods on my car that are currently showing on my channel. he beat me by 2 cars at 110mph. that tells me that the whp of these cars are quite similar. though if my car was tuned and had a lock-up converter it would have been the other way around bc you cant get by the stock hp difference in our cars.
Also a 12.98 is on drag radials. Not factory tires. They trap around 104-106mph. The ss or ws6 models were faster but not by much. Ive watched numerous ls1 intake and catback cars get just under 300whp on a dynojet. A fully stock z28 is gonna do roughly 15whp less and on a mustang dyno it will be 10-12% lower than that.
look dude the ram air induction DOES NOT make a big difference in the hp of the WS6 and SS cars. plus the car MM&FF used was BONE STOCK with RADIALS. people act like high 12's is impossible with stock F-bodies but its not. the '01-'02 SS/WS6 was a higher performer than its predecessors. they got a hotter cam, less restrictive exhaust, and suspension tweaks. at the crank, an LS1 actually makes around 350hp. GM had to fudge the numbers so insurance companies wouldnt rape the owners.
Actually I own 2 trans ams. A 96 and 94. I'm very familier with there ls1 brothers. The engines are rated bhp or bulk horsepower. The numbers are done on a engine dyno not chasis dyno. There measured without any drivetrain loss. I know the ws6 and ss models make more power but there also ram air. You don't get ram air effects on the dyno. Besides the point. The camaro in the video is a z rated at 305hp. I know more than you think.
Rear Turbo set up, I dont know guys... I dont like it... 4 sum reasons.... wat about if he bangs underneath over bumps or anything else, wat if it get water contact when raining days.... not really a safe spot... wat happen to the muffler?
It sits behind the rear and isnt any lower than the rear. Something large will hit the rear axle before the turbo. The kit does come with a metal cover to go over the filter to keep water off the filter. There is no muffler anymore. Wont pass inspection because of it but for most of us car guys, its all about who you know.
260 is probably very accurate for u suckas that dont know much, especially since its rwhp not flywheel horsepower. and yeah that turbo's pretty clean rough!
For one its not a SS or WS6. Two, the WS6 is a ram air car and you dont get any ram air effect on the dyno so it wont show as much power on the dyno compared to on the street. Three, this is a Mustang Dyno which measure wheel horsepower. 260whp is just about right for the stock 305hp ls1.
ok obviously you dont own one so ill fill you in alittle.
#1 the factory numbers were VERY conservative for insurance purposes.
#2 the WS6 (i own one) uses the same intake design as the Z28 camaro only the opening is alittle taller.
#3 ALL dynos measure wheel hp.
MM&FF magazine did a comparison in 2001 of an SS camaro vs the N/A cobra and Bullitt. they got 321whp on a stock '01 SS with a 12.98 1/4 mile. so yes the Z28 CAN put 300 to the ground. im not talking out of my ass man.
well they are using the mustang dyno and the camaro they are using is automatic which will have 10-15rwhp less than the camaro equiped with the the t-56 6 speed transmission
amazing rear mounted turbo you learn something new everyday kinda awkward looking but the numbers dont lie wonder if it works for the lt1? gotta watch the speed bumps though.........
Did they say the mileage? if it has alot of miles, wear on the rear end, and trans and if it's a automatic that is a power terrain loss. They use the manual camaros for the horsepower specs.
did they key in the weight of vehicle when dyno test was done on ur ss camaro. Thats what these guys did and these numbers are more accurate as dyno creates resistance to rear wheels depending on weight of vehicle to show the most accurate rwhp. Most dyno shops dont do this they just have a preset weight for all vehicles and this doesnt show accurate rwhp for each vehicle.
by the way different years produce different rwhp numbers do to different ecu settings, emissions control devices, etc... It also depends on proper break in, tune-up intervals, type of oil used, fuel octane, and if car was abused or babied not to mention miles on vehicle. All these factors will cause different vehicles to produce different numbers.
Also loce how you could never take this car out in the rain or else your fucked. Ahh sts smh
hispanic88 2 weeks ago
Ahhh how I hate watching shows like this makes everything look so easy lol!
hispanic88 2 weeks ago
If you bought the v8 turbo kit from STS what would you need to do for it to fit the 3.8 v6. I wanna turbo my Camaro with a rear mount turbo and I've seen a couple people do it on here to the v6 but no one has answered
sweetv6camaroguy 3 weeks ago
theses fools know there shit thats why were sitting in front of a computer a they are dynoing that car
hogkid 3 months ago
These old fossils really get shit done!
lt1tyrell 3 months ago 2
200 hp Cold Fusion Fogger less than $500, You do the math!
bobbytraywick 4 months ago
in an automatic car the blow off valve isn't as necessary? um.... were the automatics diesels or something because i think this would still be a very good piece of the equation to have?
BmxDieseldude 4 months ago
@BmxDieseldude i wouldnt skimp, but due to the fact that (dying tranny aside) auto's arent going to miss a shift and if you've turbo'ed, will likely be tuned to shift very quckly, it's not AS necessary. i wouldnt go without either though.
eclypse256 1 month ago
@eclypse256 uh, if you let off the gas - throttle body closes - gasses build up jamming up the flow - slowing/stopping turbine spin - busting turbo's.... any gas powered piston engine on the road that's getting a turbo should have a way of relieving the back pressure built when the throttle body closes.
BmxDieseldude 1 month ago
@BmxDieseldude i never disagreed. there are plenty of factory cars that dont come with a BOV, though. maybe it has to do with the size of the turbos, dunno.
eclypse256 1 month ago
@eclypse256 it's not that they don't have them, but that they are designed to be quiet rather than to shout "look at me". (unless they use recirculation systems like audi/vw where the air is redirected back into the intake before the turbo) same idea - the air just needs to escape to somewhere where it doesn't build up between the throttle body an turbine, because that slows it's rotation suddenly which does damage) I wasn't trying to be a dick, just educating. that did sound ass-ish
BmxDieseldude 1 month ago
@BmxDieseldude ive owned turbo'ed rides - thinking about doing it to my c5 now (thus watching STS videos). i dont think the GNX's were ever bov'ed from the factory? im familiar with recirculating them - i actually recirculated my HKS to quiet it down. but i've seen cars built up aftermarket with plenty of money in the car with no BOV. i always just assumed they knew something i didnt!
eclypse256 1 month ago
who ever designed this turbo kit should be kicked in the nuts, its going to have so much boost lag
MustanGT2003 4 months ago
I GOT O PRESSURE!
GOPHERT!
THERexKramer 5 months ago
This ls1 has 260+, i thought they had 310, shit the lt1s suppose to come with 285 but i guess thats in the high rpms, these guys know their shit but i think someone else should have did the dyno work :D
warewolfsnimpalas 5 months ago
@warewolfsnimpalas the ls1 does put out over 300 hp but thats net horsepower. from the back of the flywheel to the rear wheels, there's going to be power loss no matter what, so that 260+ hp figure is about right.
nightstrike88 5 months ago
i don't like the system but the air filter in a OK position take a look at vw bug lambo, 911 also K&n filter can block oil and water !!! + is washable :) cheer
imPRETA 6 months ago
Wait... so they put a turbo kit on it and ran it on the dyno without tuning it? Who cares about the turbo sucking in water when there is a hole in the piston lol.
Toeclicks25 6 months ago
@Toeclicks25 The stock LS1 can handle a lot of horsepower.....I'm sure the waste gate is set at low boost so the piston's will be fine
M3TurboE46 5 months ago
Brand new turbo kit gonna get dirty under that car. What a shame
hYdRo723 6 months ago
wait.... a bov is not necessary on an automatic? idiots
Wrenchead84 7 months ago
My only complaint is the music going during the dyno run, I wanted to hear the car not the two guys theme song.
willpmack 7 months ago
that's an LS1 and it's only putting out 260 to the wheels?? my 93 LT1 formula with I/E CHIP 160 STAT 3.73's 121,000mi put down 266 to the wheels and 296 tq to the wheels.
that's actually pretty low for a stock LS1
use2slam2 8 months ago
@use2slam2 its a mustang dyno. they read a little lower
turbonegro1120 8 months ago
@turbonegro1120 lmao!
camaroificationable 7 months ago
cant you just replace your CAT with this ?? or shortly after for the tree hugers
don021409 10 months ago
@don021409 the system replaces the muffler. Totally emissions compliant.
FiredUpZ28 9 months ago 5
@FiredUpZ28 Muffler doesn't reduce emissions it muffles the sound
coleslaw13 3 months ago
Sam and dave need to be on spikes powerblock tv!!
kam6865 11 months ago
Why would you want that underneath your car? Shouldn't the turbo be mounted next to the intake manafold?
Skippy585 11 months ago
@Skippy585 Acutally its a very effective turbo system. Check out their website it explains it all
acekazel 11 months ago
@acekazel
I'm shure it is effective, but does it spool as fast as lests say, a twin turbo setup?
Skippy585 11 months ago
@Skippy585 I've acutally seen some that are creating a little boost at idle. But for the most part from what ive seen the second someone hits the throttle they are creating a decent amount of boost.
acekazel 11 months ago
@acekazel
I can now see the advantage in this because the engine is receiving clean air cool air form the turbo, I wonder if you can convert your Duramax and Power Stroke or Cummins powered truck to this set up and see an increase in power and fuel economy
Skippy585 11 months ago
@acekazel it shouldnt create boost at idle if it is there is something wrong
IXGQ4LifeXI 9 months ago
The main thing u have to focus on when going for one of these "REALLY downstream" turbo setups, is insulating the exhaust as much as u can, so as to retain as much heat as possible BEFORE the turbine (upstream of the turbine).
marek0086 1 year ago
Thats great. I wonder what happens when your cat breaks up and shoots fragments into the turbine.
bpoolman2003 1 year ago
@bpoolman2003 That would be an issue for multiple reasons, and i would find a work around( i.e. fake cat).
iPotterBilt 1 year ago
THIS SYTEM IS CRAP....YOU DONT WANT TO HAVE THE AIR FILTER THAT LOW IN A RAINY DAY OUTSIDE!!
mitkoman 1 year ago
@mitkoman
With a turbocharged setup like that and with the boot on the filter getting even quite a bit of water shouldn't matter too much. The compressor will cause such heat that it will instantly (almost) vaporize the water. The water getting into it actually might help it by helping cool down the air. Then the boot also helps by not letting much water in there in the first place.
weed831 1 year ago
@weed831
Doesn't work that way......This can easily hydrolock an engine with that air filter position on a rainy day especially if you go through a standing puddle of water
kemardrakes 1 year ago
Recipe to suck in water during a rainy day with that air filter position
kemardrakes 1 year ago 16
@kemardrakes Most people that can afford an aftermarket turbo system put it on a a vehicle that's not there daily driver.
wrknunderpresure 1 year ago
@wrknunderpresure
True to an extent ut I get where your coming from
kemardrakes 1 year ago
@kemardrakes yeah like wtf kind of idea is that...
zerosix1786 1 year ago
@kemardrakes i have the same concern... like if i put one on my thunderbird wtf would happen if it was raining out.... O_o
nam9456 1 year ago
@nam9456 Very small amounts would make it through the filter into the compressor housing, and what did make it into the compressor housing would never make it to the motor before it evaporated. In all reality you would see a benefit from this as it would cool your charge. Look at all the people who run water/methanol kits, both pre and post turbo. Some will get a pooling in the intercooler...but not from small amounts like rain puddles. Dont back your car into a lake and youll be fine.
iPotterBilt 1 year ago
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@kemardrakes i have the same concern... like if i put one on my thunderbird wtf would happen if it was raining out.... O_o
nam9456 1 year ago
@kemardrakes~ as long as they're not using a MAF sensor... there is no problem with getting water in the intake.
marek0086 1 year ago
@marek0086
Water getting into the intake means its getting into the engine.....Uncontrolled liquid water getting into the engine is a serious no no.....Start a car with the engine air intake submerged and see what happens.....
Water injection is a controlled system which vaporizes and controls how much is injected to the engine to reduce combustion temperatures if that's what many of you thinks it sucking in water from the road will do for it...Totally different thing
kemardrakes 1 year ago
@kemardrakes~ Like the guy underneath me said; unless u back your car into a LAKE, you're not gonna get enough water in it to cause damage.
marek0086 1 year ago
@kemardrakes i was thinkin the same thing
sofargone561 9 months ago
@kemardrakes that's the exact reason I haven't bought one of these kits yet
Fourteen88SoCal 4 months ago
@kemardrakes If that was the case, how the hell could they sell any of these or even get the patent?? It rains everywhere!!
tomgreene121 3 months ago
@kemardrakes which is why a car you invest this much money in doesn't belong in the rain in the first place
V12Carlucci 1 month ago
I have and STS Turbo kit on my 5.3L Silverado. The only modification I made to it was 60 lb/hr injectors which were not necessary with the kit. I'm only using 6-8 lbs of boost with no innercooler. Thats not enough to over power anything in the motor or the transmission. If you begin to use more lbs of boost, thats when you will need to make engine modifications and opt for the innercooler system.
mrbohn01 1 year ago
i got a v6 supercharged trd aurion and i want to fit a sts turbo have you got any sts turbos for it? how much would it cost?
TRDAurion1 1 year ago
@TRDAurion1 Go to STSTurbo.com and look up your vehicle. Give them a call and they can talk with you about what you want and how they can help.
35057 1 year ago
is the sts turbo just made for muscle cars and trucks or can it be put on like a lancer ralliart for example?
12356555666 1 year ago
@12356555666 They have universal kits that can be used on pretty much anything Check out their website ststurbo
19plymouth64 1 year ago
wat about the filter wouldn't it get wet or damaged when it rains
adesantiago89 1 year ago
@adesantiago89 i think so~!
clinemichael 1 year ago
@adesantiago89 it's a water resistance cloth
beastman5566 1 year ago
405 to the wheels in a LS1 kamaro i kant wait for my kit :: we shall decimate all
bmwdat1 1 year ago
wondering how much boost they used
sjh200765 1 year ago
nice i want sts turbo
dripz2012 1 year ago
watch someone walk around with hacksaws and stealing peoples turobs......
AnTHoNyB1125 1 year ago
And I bet thats not even tuned. With a few more bolt on's it will be pushing well over 500hp.
vfIskullangel 1 year ago
@vfIskullangel well i know my stepdads sts turbo kit has 510 rwhp stock lsl T/A
cruerocker2008 1 year ago
Just wait until the engine blows. Nothing else in the engine or gearbox can handle the extra power and torque. This is what most people forget about when they mess about with cars.
urbex2007 1 year ago
@urbex2007 at low psi the ls1 can handle it....he will need pushrods and springs and eventually transmission and rear end.
kief4diamonds 1 year ago
@urbex2007 these systems are designed to works as a bolt on to a stock engine without damage do your homework next time so you dont look stupid
panterror17 1 year ago
how does the air filter not get wet in rain?
transamguy78 1 year ago
Wait a minute - I thought torque = hp at 5200? Every dyno run I see shows this. These two fast talkers are FOS
592220 1 year ago
probably signifigant turbo lag with a system like this
Death656 1 year ago
@Death656
I think you need to watch the video again. Look at the graph and watch from 9:40 on. The graph alone shows that there is not much turbo lag.
weed831 1 year ago
@weed831~ They're not talking about lag, even though they think they are. They are talking about "boost threshold"!. They have invested (financial) interest (conflict of interest) in this STS system. So they are probably lying about the lag ON PURPOSE!
marek0086 1 year ago
From 269HP to 405HP...now tat is alot!!!
dotafreak788 1 year ago
graet muffler swap
Domman56 1 year ago
this is by far the dummest set up.. they say if you think you get turbo lag....i no you get turbo lag when you turbo is 100ft from the intake..and they sad they gained 150 hp. dude.. untuned turbo set up. dont get you that good results with just bolt on and run it. they had to tune it. and it dont even say the psi they ran.
frankyw729 1 year ago
@frankyw729 when i get done with mine ill show you proof of it kk
McOrca09 1 year ago
@McOrca09 ok i'd be glad to see it from a person and not some lame ass t.v show. im telling you your gunna have boost lag and your gunna need a good tune to gain the hp that they did
frankyw729 1 year ago
seems like if it were rainy yourd be fucked with your air intake 6 inchs off the ground right behind the tire, so that water is sure to spray off of it onto the air filter look at 04:10
fetusman1 1 year ago
why is the turbo at the ass end of the car?
rollercosterrr 1 year ago
Is that the turbo spooling up at 7:51 ? that sounds way better than a turbo under the hood....
osamiax33o 1 year ago
u need no intercoller
eagb19971997 1 year ago
I like F-bodys and like tha STS kit cuz it has less turbo lag, more room 2 work in tha engine compartment, colder intake temps means more power per PSI (I would have put tha intercooler on anyway and made it even colder), its cheaper then front mount kits, and it could score some extra money at tha local street racing spot or at tha track. . . I'm gettin a 4G F-body!
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
'Nice Silicone hoses, nice elbow bends"
arual9100 1 year ago
I love how they mention you can get more power through tuning IF YOU WANT. I'll tell you one thing, if you just bolt this on and think you're ready to go, you're in for a nasty suprise. Add that much more air to your system without upgrading injectors/tuning, and you're asking for a seriously lean A/F and a popped LS1.
kingbestark 1 year ago
@kingbestark wel at 5 psi,stock tune can hold.....
nickyjam770 1 year ago
I love how its just a bodda boom bodda bing your done install. Somehow I dont think 10mins and 40 seconds you can have this done like in the video. Editing is a wonderful thing. Can you imagine what a speed bump or any road debris would do to that turbo hanging down like that?
killersushi99 1 year ago
@killersushi99 is not 10 min..but not full day either
nickyjam770 1 year ago
so i can still keep my K&N Cold Air Intake installed on my car if i wanna put the turbo charger on my car?
vinylcollector08 1 year ago
@vinylcollector08 not if it's this system...the intake is now the outlet for the turbo on the exhaust...the only intake comes off of the turbo on the sts system.
wfangnxd117 1 year ago
@vinylcollector08 no
nickyjam770 1 year ago
anyone think about water cracking the turbo????.... hit a puddle while its hot?????? anyone????
tym1989 1 year ago
@tym1989 its as cool as your rotor when you brake or go trough water dummy,,,,do a research
nickyjam770 1 year ago
nice its really that simple but dose it run good with out the tune ? is this a back yard insatl ?
ASCmustang88 1 year ago
@ASCmustang88 at 5...yes
nickyjam770 1 year ago
LOL aftermarket muffler pipe? That is a $900 factory option SLP Dual/Dual exhaust on a SS or Trans Am.
They obviously hacked the pipe off the muffler IN side and he tried to play it off because he probably got his measurement wrong when he cut it.
djsanchez2 1 year ago
There is something wrong with their dyno or something wrong with the car. Both of my cars dyno'd over 300 at the rear wheel. One auto and one manual.
djsanchez2 1 year ago
MD FTW!!
TheMrhoneycutt 1 year ago
bahahaha 260hp hes joking right.....
cortinaboy69 1 year ago
Mufflers NEVER come off that easy!
jeepinjoe123 1 year ago
he said 260 to the rear wheels....ur thinking of the 300+ at the crank
spencerczech 1 year ago
that shit is gonna suck in so... much water
davidzzz94 1 year ago
WHO in the hell decided to cover up the sound of the dyno run with music?? And that's the only place there's music in the whole show.. WTF. Sound guy is clearly not a car guy.
proaudiohd 1 year ago 22
@proaudiohd Rumor has it he is gay
TacticalHelp 1 year ago
@proaudiohd
There's a little bit of music @ 2:30
:)
5PYZ3R 1 year ago
@proaudiohd
Not a music guy lol.
Skippy585 11 months ago
what year is this camaro? mines is an 01 ss making just a bit over 300 at the wheels when it got dynod stock
mrtriplesix 1 year ago
He ALMOST called it a ford, what a loser.
0nlyinhuman 1 year ago
More like 2 gays garage
DeeR1ck 1 year ago
I'm confused how this turbo system works.. the compressed air goes back to the front of the engine.. but how would the exhaust get to the exhaust pipe since the exhaust is also hooked up to the turbo?
amyntage 1 year ago
@amyntage just watch this vid Holset - How a Turbocharger Works
05front 1 year ago
@amyntage - turbos have 2 turbine housings, connected with a shaft, one for the exhaust and one for the compressor
evanescence2 1 year ago
where the hell did they get 260???
TheJamestdavis 1 year ago
with an intake and exhaust my 02 z28 dyno was at 350 whp
leftovers53 1 year ago
Not on a mustang dyno you didn't .
Marc99GT 1 year ago
260whp stock??? My 01 SS dyno'd 327whp and 337wtq
98DemonZ28 1 year ago
@98DemonZ28
Yeah, your 01 is an ls1, this camaro is an lt1. LT1's get less hp than the ls1's.
NewtProductions 1 year ago
@NewtProductions
In the land of the blind the man with one eye is king!
The car in the video is CLEARLY an ls1 which you can tell by the polymer intake manifold and visible AIR system! Since this car has the A.I.R system that means this ls1 a PRE-2001...
LS1GG 1 year ago
@NewtProductions
pretty sure that looks like a LS1 lol.
98DemonZ28 9 months ago
and they should also add an intercooler
djay102687 1 year ago
I'm sceptical about the claimed power gain without tuning. Can stock MAF, injectors, spark timing really cope with, supposedly, 50% more air withot modification? Whilst theoretically less efficient than a close coupled turbo, the idea could still be effective on large displacement engines which aren't short of low end power but need a helping hand up high. Nevertheless, STS don't add credibility to their product by falsely claiming that the set up is superior to front mounted set ups.
nem427 1 year ago
Wouldnt the turbo create too much compression for the LS1 and blow the engine, and can u install the same turbo on an LT1.?
CHEVYCAMARO4GEN 1 year ago
turbos dont make compression they make boost. compression is made by heads ,piston and rod choices.
csxt4685 1 year ago
@csxt4685 compression is making pressure or psi so turbos make pressure there for its the same thing.
RKG69 1 year ago
@RKG69 i know a turbo is a compressor in technical ways but im saying in terms of actual compression like 10.1:1 thats what im saying. I know that blowers and turbos are considered compressors but i rarely hear people refer to them as that.
csxt4685 1 year ago
i always use to watch this show, i was really into cars when i was a little younger, for some odd reason i fell out of them for a while now im getting back in to them lol, nice kit
TylertheGeek28 1 year ago
A rear mounted turbo system is never going to match the thermal efficiency of convensional turbo set-up. However, the rear-mount systems seem to perform well despite this.
I guess if it provides goood results, then I see no reason why you shouldnt use one.
In any case, its a good overall product. Good vid.
originaldriver 2 years ago
So what happens when that cold air intake gets wet? Hydrolock anyone or is that an issue any more?
SH4DOWTROOP3R 2 years ago
@SH4DOWTROOP3R
Im wondering the exacted same thing.
cw02 2 years ago
@cw02 I Want to too But its like 5 thousand bucks just for the parts
eDGARfROM432 1 year ago
@eDGARfROM432 WHAT ARE YOU SERIOUS ITS 1990 BUCKS FOR THE TURBO WHERE IS THE 3010 COMING FROM
Elvirx18 1 year ago
Really i thought they were more
eDGARfROM432 1 year ago
i wonder if the intercooler comes with the kit cause i want to buy one
Elvirx18 2 years ago 2
It doesnt use one.
Rouki87 1 year ago
@Elvirx18 The STS kits down require one. Since the intake air travels all the way from the back and doesn't get any engine heat there is no intercooler needed. One other thing I would recommend buying with this kit is a shield for your intake because if you drive in the rain you will have a major problem. This kit is the shit though, I have installed 3 on my friends cars and they are great power adders.
rextuner03 1 year ago
@rextuner03 How much power do you gain, are your friends cars stock? Any tips you could give me or anything to look out for?
Treyhtown 1 year ago
@Treyhtown One was all stock except intake exhaust and a tune other guy had heads and cam work. Stock motor made 450whp modded motor made 570whp with the same kit at the same boost. Biggest thing to watch out for is to get the upgraded injectors with proper oil pressure AFR gauge and that's pretty much it. They make kits with intercoolers but you don't have to get them. Also there is no need for a turbo timer since they are able to cool very well at the back of the car. The results are SCARY lol
rextuner03 1 year ago
@Elvirx18 you dont need a intercooler because of all the pipeing under the car..when you drive the air cools it
DODGEramDAMN 1 year ago
@Elvirx18 no it doesnt come with the kit you have to buy a separte one....
McOrca09 1 year ago
@Elvirx18 You don't really need one for a base system up to around 10 psi. Once you start going with a bigger system and pushing more than about 10 psi, you CAN do one... But the Piping going from the rear to the front actually helps cool the air charge.
35057 1 year ago
Alright buddy you win. You own one, I don't. But either way they dynoed there stock z28 and it made a whopping 260whp stock on there dyno. Go cry to them about there false numbers.
KB240SR 2 years ago
nobody is crying! you're the one posting crap saying "nuh uh guys on tv said it has 260whp so that means all f-bodies read bc i believe everything i see on the internet and tv." im just telling you what i know to be true. i eat, sleep, breath and shit these cars. if i dont know something about my car, ill ask someone who knows so i can learn. dont post if you dont know.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
no i said a stock automatic z28 makes 260whp on a Mustang Dyno. The Z28 would have made around 280whp on a Dynojet. That is accurate. It takes a new intake and at least a catback to break 300whp with an Auto LS1.
KB240SR 2 years ago
actually no it doesnt. i know for a fact the the '01-'02 ss and ws6 put around 320 to the wheels. my friend Adam owns a '99 Z28 with exhaust, converter, lid and tune. we raced from a roll with the mods on my car that are currently showing on my channel. he beat me by 2 cars at 110mph. that tells me that the whp of these cars are quite similar. though if my car was tuned and had a lock-up converter it would have been the other way around bc you cant get by the stock hp difference in our cars.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Also a 12.98 is on drag radials. Not factory tires. They trap around 104-106mph. The ss or ws6 models were faster but not by much. Ive watched numerous ls1 intake and catback cars get just under 300whp on a dynojet. A fully stock z28 is gonna do roughly 15whp less and on a mustang dyno it will be 10-12% lower than that.
KB240SR 2 years ago
look dude the ram air induction DOES NOT make a big difference in the hp of the WS6 and SS cars. plus the car MM&FF used was BONE STOCK with RADIALS. people act like high 12's is impossible with stock F-bodies but its not. the '01-'02 SS/WS6 was a higher performer than its predecessors. they got a hotter cam, less restrictive exhaust, and suspension tweaks. at the crank, an LS1 actually makes around 350hp. GM had to fudge the numbers so insurance companies wouldnt rape the owners.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
Actually I own 2 trans ams. A 96 and 94. I'm very familier with there ls1 brothers. The engines are rated bhp or bulk horsepower. The numbers are done on a engine dyno not chasis dyno. There measured without any drivetrain loss. I know the ws6 and ss models make more power but there also ram air. You don't get ram air effects on the dyno. Besides the point. The camaro in the video is a z rated at 305hp. I know more than you think.
KB240SR 2 years ago
Rear Turbo set up, I dont know guys... I dont like it... 4 sum reasons.... wat about if he bangs underneath over bumps or anything else, wat if it get water contact when raining days.... not really a safe spot... wat happen to the muffler?
heihachi77 2 years ago
It sits behind the rear and isnt any lower than the rear. Something large will hit the rear axle before the turbo. The kit does come with a metal cover to go over the filter to keep water off the filter. There is no muffler anymore. Wont pass inspection because of it but for most of us car guys, its all about who you know.
KB240SR 2 years ago
Interesting.... cool
heihachi77 2 years ago
260 is probably very accurate for u suckas that dont know much, especially since its rwhp not flywheel horsepower. and yeah that turbo's pretty clean rough!
camarofa 2 years ago
man those stock numbers are WAY off. the '01-'02 SS/WS6's do 320 to the wheels easy.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
For one its not a SS or WS6. Two, the WS6 is a ram air car and you dont get any ram air effect on the dyno so it wont show as much power on the dyno compared to on the street. Three, this is a Mustang Dyno which measure wheel horsepower. 260whp is just about right for the stock 305hp ls1.
KB240SR 2 years ago
ok obviously you dont own one so ill fill you in alittle.
#1 the factory numbers were VERY conservative for insurance purposes.
#2 the WS6 (i own one) uses the same intake design as the Z28 camaro only the opening is alittle taller.
#3 ALL dynos measure wheel hp.
MM&FF magazine did a comparison in 2001 of an SS camaro vs the N/A cobra and Bullitt. they got 321whp on a stock '01 SS with a 12.98 1/4 mile. so yes the Z28 CAN put 300 to the ground. im not talking out of my ass man.
deadeyedickification 2 years ago
well they are using the mustang dyno and the camaro they are using is automatic which will have 10-15rwhp less than the camaro equiped with the the t-56 6 speed transmission
mirza1986yahoocom 2 years ago
amazing rear mounted turbo you learn something new everyday kinda awkward looking but the numbers dont lie wonder if it works for the lt1? gotta watch the speed bumps though.........
romeroremor 2 years ago
@romeroremor yes they also sell one for the lt1 they also have a twin turbo setup
pyroymaniac 2 years ago
260hp?No way! My z28 did 307 stock.
24verdicts 2 years ago
5.7 litre, and only 260hp??? I dont get it.
What is the point have huge, heavy, thirsty engine, with no power?
I like the turbo kit though.
1petulko 2 years ago
Did they say the mileage? if it has alot of miles, wear on the rear end, and trans and if it's a automatic that is a power terrain loss. They use the manual camaros for the horsepower specs.
renz586 2 years ago
an air intake were the exhaust is ??? that kinda strange to me i never saw that b4
BlackSpades45 2 years ago
At the beginning: "Couple hours to put spark plugs in this." Rookies. lol
jimbo98z 2 years ago
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Naturalhit 2 years ago
that kit looks like crap on there. shoulda supercharged that beast
2889joeracer 2 years ago
A G8 GXP will put out 515hp and 560tq on a dyno with zero mods besides sts turbos at 10 psi. High 11's @ over 125.
cooksta3276 2 years ago
give a car a few years of age and different cars will run different HP numbers from the factory simply put no 2 are identical
kwaky2005 2 years ago
these guys really need to check their dyno i checked a ss camaro has 300 rwhp stock
Elvirx18 2 years ago
yea maybe brand new from the factory. cars usually lose horse power over the years
DSMDriver69 2 years ago
On a dynojet the SS will have about 300rwhp
superspyder99 2 years ago 2
my brother ss was 345rwhp stock
ThatSkaterKid93 2 years ago
i think its because they are using a mustang dyno..on a dynojet the ls1 will put 300-320rwhp stock
resendez08 2 years ago
its bhp not rwhp
Midgetman303 2 years ago
They used a Mustang Dyno which reads lower than the common Dynojet Dyno.
Globalpack 2 years ago
did they key in the weight of vehicle when dyno test was done on ur ss camaro. Thats what these guys did and these numbers are more accurate as dyno creates resistance to rear wheels depending on weight of vehicle to show the most accurate rwhp. Most dyno shops dont do this they just have a preset weight for all vehicles and this doesnt show accurate rwhp for each vehicle.
supadupaflyplaya 2 years ago
by the way different years produce different rwhp numbers do to different ecu settings, emissions control devices, etc... It also depends on proper break in, tune-up intervals, type of oil used, fuel octane, and if car was abused or babied not to mention miles on vehicle. All these factors will cause different vehicles to produce different numbers.
supadupaflyplaya 2 years ago