everything has had its day - i think by the sounds of it the STAGE HOI production unit is just not enjoying the same ''fresh'' and spinetingling anticipation u got from the 1970's-1990's wen HOI was IMO simply ''breathtaking!!'' my bro and sis travelled the world with HOI and we still watch TULIPMAY's vids on here - and they reminisce.. but seeing these new ones - it just isn't the same and NO ONE ever complained about HOI backk in its day - it was a treat -a magicial treat
mmm kirillmortnev...you have 18yo....I have 19yo, Only i say, the new Shows of HOI, looks like a stupid Van Helsing's Dream.
Stage/HOI every year since "Fantasy Show", presents a worst show for a next season... Fantasy (-5), Romanza (-6), Mystery (-8), Spirit and Energia (-9).
2010...is a important year for HOI (Or Change the concepts in his shows or Disney on Ice, could take the title for "The only and the first class on ice show"
So, here we are, after 6 months of "Energia" on tour....
Paris engagement : not one word in the french press (and disastrous reaction of most of the audience). Nice engagement : cancelled (not enough bookings !). 2nd year french tour : cancelled...
Chorus reduced again next year, in every division : from 36, then 30, they are now going down to 23 !
We were right when we said that STAGE ENTERTAINMENT IS KILLING HOLIDAY ON ICE !!!.
K.O. for HOI/Stage Entertainment, and i heard recently Holiday on Ice was cancelled too his tour on Latin America, because New Ice Capades and Disney on Ice are taking the rink in our countries. (From México to Argentina)
In the new HOI shows, i like the light (they spend a lot of money on it), the sound and music, the numbers (for example Cezar and Cleopatra in Romanza...), some of the costumes are better (for example in Diamonds), some new ideas are better than before. Years ago HOI spended the money on costumes and props, but the light was very primitiv, and the music was almost only from Broadway musicals (it was booring for me...).
Dear Kirillmortnev, I agree with you : the old HOI used a lot of Broadway musics. But you cannot say that lighting was primitiv ! they just used the technology of those times. Holiday is one of the first touring shows which used telescan in 1988 (around the world in 80days) . If they had had the lights and sound technologies of today, Ted Shuffle and Stephanie Andros would have done marvels !
Yes, but...You don't see the finale of "Fantasy"???, Really the symphonic blue finale, is one of the worst and boring endings presented, in all entire history of HOI...
In Russia, shows like Peter Pan, Bugs Bunney and Alladin were a total succes, the buildings were filled all... but, Fantasy and Romanza weren't, i saw it my self... (in Russia HOI after a long pause came only in 2006, and nothing exept HOI weren't in Russia at all (i mean skating shows), and people were dissapointed about Romanza and Fantasy (it's weird, because almost all of them havent's senn nothind exept it). A lot of my friends senn Energia and they liked it (exept the costumes)
People have different tastes. I don't like the cheap kid's shows (exept Peter Pan - this one is the best from the Kids shows). The 50 years HOI show in 1995 was made whithout Van Den Ende came after this show, but i think from that year the show was loosing it's glamour, there were a lot of modern things.
I think, that it is time to change the creators... because the shows are getting to look the same, as it was, when was David Baker... the shows started to look the same...
I have seen all of it in Europe... HOI is playing Russia for about 3 years till now. My parents were working in HOI. Ok, i don't like the Elements show, but Romanza, Hollywood, Fantasy, aspecially Diamonds and In Concert are very good (it looks like Cirque du Soleil because of the creators. Roberto Rosselo makes costumes look like them....). Of course the glamour is lost (not like Magic and Illusion or like even Banjo Balalaika). I was acially in HOI almost all my life... since i was 1, 5
this was has to happen... if not now, maybe in couple of years... the music gets better and better, the shows are changing,,, they don't look all the same...they were before... all th time Broadway music... all the time feathers in the costumes...(it is all for grand people... the ones who are younger than 35 usually don't like old things...). Of course, i think Holiday on ice have to have fireworks, and the wheel....and much more....
Dear Kirillmortnev, maybe people younger than 35 don't like "old things". But why would they like CHEAP things ? Because this is the main problem of the "new" Holiday On ice : it's a CHEAP show !
and of couse glamour and stuff like that is beutiful.... how old are you people? I saw all productions since 1989, and it all gets better and better (i didn't like the Elements show and Celebration....). Yes, Robin is not David Baker, but i think that the shows are getting better! If you want to see a Broadway show, you better go to Broadway.,... i am 18 years old... and i am from Russia....
Hi! Holiday On Ice IS Broadway-Glitter and Glamour and Tons of Fedders and Brilliants...this makes the Show so fantastic, and the Costumesw of the new productions look very cheap-they could be modern but the most Creationsa look katastrophal.
And Holiday On Ice should not be a Copy of Cirque du Soleil....Some Parts and Costumes from the new Productions are very good, also Light, Stage and Sound, but for Example the Opening from Elements is only Cheap, and that has nothing to do with the 21 century. Many young friends of my compare the old shows and the new ones-and all of them say the older have bieen much better.sorry for my very bad English...sabrina.
If you have seen all the productions since 1989, you can see that there are less and less people going to see Holiday On Ice ...Why??? Don't you think that people are disappointed ? Don't you think that they don't want to see a Cirque du soleil on ice ?
You don't even seem to know what you're talking about: You are 18 years old and live in Russia, but you pretend to have seen all the shows of the last 20 years, since 1989? How would that be possible? And where do you say you saw all these shows? In Russia? HOI didn't play in Russia for years! What do you say now? Apart from these false statements which are obviously fake, your unqualified remarks on the old shows don't deserve an answer.
Why, all the Show Companies, want to be another "Cirque du Soleil"? (with some lookalike ideas)
Talking about a Great Production Shows, in Las Vegas only survives "Donn Arden's, Jubilee" and in Paris, Moulin Rouge...because the Lido have a "New Generation Show" (Boring, Cheap, and identical like the New HOI Productions)
My God, another cheap production ! And this is the climax of the show ?....Please, Mr Van Den Ende, stop calling this show "Holiday on Ice" !!! Your shits have nothing to do with Holiday on Ice !!!!!!
Once and for all, forget your poor lights and fireworks second rate finale, as you do not want to invest money in a spectacular finale like the ones the old H.O.I. used to present...
I went to see the show in Hamburg. Nobody liked it. The people left disappointed and annoyed, saying: "This was the last time", "what a waste of money", "never again" and "what a shit"! Cheap and tacky costumes, weird music and poor light effects. They didn't even have fireworks in the finale! What a shame to see the show dying like this!
j'ai également hâte de voir cette nouvelle production. Ces autres personnes jugent avant d'avoir vu. On est en 2008, regardons vers l'avenir. Et au vu des reactions du public, ce n'est peut être pas si affreux!!!
Désolé, mais on peut regarder vers l'avenir sans se contenter de divertissements à deux balles ! Stage Entertainment sait investir de l'argent lorsqu'il le veut bien (ex: le roi lion)...ce qui n'est pas le cas pour Holiday On Ice. Depuis 10 ans, le résultat est là : de moins en moins de public, des tournées écourtées, des critiques de professionnels dévastatrices... Alors oui, on ne peut que regretter l'ancien Holiday On Ice et son phénoménal succés sur les 5 continents....
comme vous considérez Energia comme une nouvelle merde de Endemol, pour reprendre vos termes, pourriez-vous nous dire ce que vous n'avez pas aimez dans cette production. Au moins votre critique serait basée suer des faits et non pas sur un court extrait de quelques secondes. merci par avance.
Jz suppose que vous êtes Guillaume HIQUET, n'ayant aucune nouvelle de vous depuis quelques mois, je suppose que vous ne supportez pas que les autres qui savent plus de chose que vous, que connaissent mieux les gens d'HOI ex : OKLEY et le MOULIN ROUGE que vous, j'ai vu le show à FRIEBURG, une grande partie de sgans sont partis avant la fin, n'est ce pas un élément révélateur,
cher Icerevue, oui c'est moi et j'assume!!moi au moins je n'ai pas besoin d'étaler mes scoops ou mes relations pour me donner de la contenance. J'ai une vie privée que je n'étale pas pour me faire mousser.
Ce n'est pas sur un court extrait que je me base, mais sur le spectacle que je viens d'aller voir en première à Hambourg comme chaque année. Alors, en bref : manque d'imagination, costumes lamentables (Roberto Rosello nous avait habitué à mieux), spectacle sans émotions, patinage de bas niveau, musique par moments insupportable (du canadien René Dupéré), animations de patronage,...Seuls les éclairages sont, une fois de plus, réussis...
Effectivement, montmartre18, seul le public jugera. Et c'est bien cela qui m'inquiète !!! A Hambourg, la Color Line Arena était encore moins remplie que d'habitude... Et tous les fans de Holiday le constatent : de moins en moins de spectateurs, aussi bien en France qu'à l'étranger. C'est bien pour cela que je considère que Endemol/Stage Entertainment sont les fossoyeurs de Holiday On Ice, car ils vont vraiment finir par tuer ce monument du spectacle....
from ___kenco___
everything has had its day - i think by the sounds of it the STAGE HOI production unit is just not enjoying the same ''fresh'' and spinetingling anticipation u got from the 1970's-1990's wen HOI was IMO simply ''breathtaking!!'' my bro and sis travelled the world with HOI and we still watch TULIPMAY's vids on here - and they reminisce.. but seeing these new ones - it just isn't the same and NO ONE ever complained about HOI backk in its day - it was a treat -a magicial treat
kenmarkdebbie 2 years ago
I'm glad I was in Holiday when the did proper shows!
hawardenskater 2 years ago
I like the Music. Stage, and Light from Energia, i think it is very professionell, but the Costumes are Katastrophal!!! :((((
sabrina696 2 years ago
mmm kirillmortnev...you have 18yo....I have 19yo, Only i say, the new Shows of HOI, looks like a stupid Van Helsing's Dream.
Stage/HOI every year since "Fantasy Show", presents a worst show for a next season... Fantasy (-5), Romanza (-6), Mystery (-8), Spirit and Energia (-9).
2010...is a important year for HOI (Or Change the concepts in his shows or Disney on Ice, could take the title for "The only and the first class on ice show"
marcoteatrero 2 years ago
Attn Kirillmortnev, SkyRL25 and montmartre18 :
So, here we are, after 6 months of "Energia" on tour....
Paris engagement : not one word in the french press (and disastrous reaction of most of the audience). Nice engagement : cancelled (not enough bookings !). 2nd year french tour : cancelled...
Chorus reduced again next year, in every division : from 36, then 30, they are now going down to 23 !
We were right when we said that STAGE ENTERTAINMENT IS KILLING HOLIDAY ON ICE !!!.
glidream 2 years ago 2
K.O. for HOI/Stage Entertainment, and i heard recently Holiday on Ice was cancelled too his tour on Latin America, because New Ice Capades and Disney on Ice are taking the rink in our countries. (From México to Argentina)
marcoteatrero 2 years ago
Propably yes... i would like to see what would came out of it.
Kirillmortnev 3 years ago
In the new HOI shows, i like the light (they spend a lot of money on it), the sound and music, the numbers (for example Cezar and Cleopatra in Romanza...), some of the costumes are better (for example in Diamonds), some new ideas are better than before. Years ago HOI spended the money on costumes and props, but the light was very primitiv, and the music was almost only from Broadway musicals (it was booring for me...).
Sorry my english...
Kirillmortnev 3 years ago
Dear Kirillmortnev, I agree with you : the old HOI used a lot of Broadway musics. But you cannot say that lighting was primitiv ! they just used the technology of those times. Holiday is one of the first touring shows which used telescan in 1988 (around the world in 80days) . If they had had the lights and sound technologies of today, Ted Shuffle and Stephanie Andros would have done marvels !
glidream 3 years ago
Yes, but...You don't see the finale of "Fantasy"???, Really the symphonic blue finale, is one of the worst and boring endings presented, in all entire history of HOI...
marcoteatrero 3 years ago
In Russia, shows like Peter Pan, Bugs Bunney and Alladin were a total succes, the buildings were filled all... but, Fantasy and Romanza weren't, i saw it my self... (in Russia HOI after a long pause came only in 2006, and nothing exept HOI weren't in Russia at all (i mean skating shows), and people were dissapointed about Romanza and Fantasy (it's weird, because almost all of them havent's senn nothind exept it). A lot of my friends senn Energia and they liked it (exept the costumes)
Kirillmortnev 3 years ago
People have different tastes. I don't like the cheap kid's shows (exept Peter Pan - this one is the best from the Kids shows). The 50 years HOI show in 1995 was made whithout Van Den Ende came after this show, but i think from that year the show was loosing it's glamour, there were a lot of modern things.
I think, that it is time to change the creators... because the shows are getting to look the same, as it was, when was David Baker... the shows started to look the same...
Kirillmortnev 3 years ago
I have seen all of it in Europe... HOI is playing Russia for about 3 years till now. My parents were working in HOI. Ok, i don't like the Elements show, but Romanza, Hollywood, Fantasy, aspecially Diamonds and In Concert are very good (it looks like Cirque du Soleil because of the creators. Roberto Rosselo makes costumes look like them....). Of course the glamour is lost (not like Magic and Illusion or like even Banjo Balalaika). I was acially in HOI almost all my life... since i was 1, 5
Kirillmortnev 3 years ago
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this was has to happen... if not now, maybe in couple of years... the music gets better and better, the shows are changing,,, they don't look all the same...they were before... all th time Broadway music... all the time feathers in the costumes...(it is all for grand people... the ones who are younger than 35 usually don't like old things...). Of course, i think Holiday on ice have to have fireworks, and the wheel....and much more....
Kirillmortnev 3 years ago
Dear Kirillmortnev, maybe people younger than 35 don't like "old things". But why would they like CHEAP things ? Because this is the main problem of the "new" Holiday On ice : it's a CHEAP show !
glidream 3 years ago 3
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Well, i think now it's the 21 century....
and of couse glamour and stuff like that is beutiful.... how old are you people? I saw all productions since 1989, and it all gets better and better (i didn't like the Elements show and Celebration....). Yes, Robin is not David Baker, but i think that the shows are getting better! If you want to see a Broadway show, you better go to Broadway.,... i am 18 years old... and i am from Russia....
Kirillmortnev 3 years ago
Hi! Holiday On Ice IS Broadway-Glitter and Glamour and Tons of Fedders and Brilliants...this makes the Show so fantastic, and the Costumesw of the new productions look very cheap-they could be modern but the most Creationsa look katastrophal.
sabrina696 3 years ago
And Holiday On Ice should not be a Copy of Cirque du Soleil....Some Parts and Costumes from the new Productions are very good, also Light, Stage and Sound, but for Example the Opening from Elements is only Cheap, and that has nothing to do with the 21 century. Many young friends of my compare the old shows and the new ones-and all of them say the older have bieen much better.sorry for my very bad English...sabrina.
sabrina696 3 years ago
If you have seen all the productions since 1989, you can see that there are less and less people going to see Holiday On Ice ...Why??? Don't you think that people are disappointed ? Don't you think that they don't want to see a Cirque du soleil on ice ?
glidream 3 years ago
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Duplo1812 3 years ago
You don't even seem to know what you're talking about: You are 18 years old and live in Russia, but you pretend to have seen all the shows of the last 20 years, since 1989? How would that be possible? And where do you say you saw all these shows? In Russia? HOI didn't play in Russia for years! What do you say now? Apart from these false statements which are obviously fake, your unqualified remarks on the old shows don't deserve an answer.
Duplo1812 3 years ago
Why, all the Show Companies, want to be another "Cirque du Soleil"? (with some lookalike ideas)
Talking about a Great Production Shows, in Las Vegas only survives "Donn Arden's, Jubilee" and in Paris, Moulin Rouge...because the Lido have a "New Generation Show" (Boring, Cheap, and identical like the New HOI Productions)
The Glitz and Glamour is ending for this shows?
roderickplatinum 3 years ago 12
HOLIDAY ON ICE, TODAY IS TOTALLY A FRAUD
Endemol, Kevin Cottam, Anthony Van Laast, Robin Cousins...
¡All new producers of HOI need to go directly to the Jail!...
roderickplatinum 3 years ago 14
My God, another cheap production ! And this is the climax of the show ?....Please, Mr Van Den Ende, stop calling this show "Holiday on Ice" !!! Your shits have nothing to do with Holiday on Ice !!!!!!
Once and for all, forget your poor lights and fireworks second rate finale, as you do not want to invest money in a spectacular finale like the ones the old H.O.I. used to present...
glidream 3 years ago 5
I went to see the show in Hamburg. Nobody liked it. The people left disappointed and annoyed, saying: "This was the last time", "what a waste of money", "never again" and "what a shit"! Cheap and tacky costumes, weird music and poor light effects. They didn't even have fireworks in the finale! What a shame to see the show dying like this!
Duplo1812 3 years ago 11
J'ai bien hate de voir cette nouvelle production ..........que de mauvais commentaires jusqu'a date!
SkyRL25 3 years ago
Connaissez-vous HOLIDAY ON ICE depuis 10 ans ou avez vous vu le vrai HOLIDAY ON ICE d'il y a 15, 20 et 30 ans ?
ICEREVUE1943 3 years ago
j'ai également hâte de voir cette nouvelle production. Ces autres personnes jugent avant d'avoir vu. On est en 2008, regardons vers l'avenir. Et au vu des reactions du public, ce n'est peut être pas si affreux!!!
montmartre18 3 years ago
Désolé, mais on peut regarder vers l'avenir sans se contenter de divertissements à deux balles ! Stage Entertainment sait investir de l'argent lorsqu'il le veut bien (ex: le roi lion)...ce qui n'est pas le cas pour Holiday On Ice. Depuis 10 ans, le résultat est là : de moins en moins de public, des tournées écourtées, des critiques de professionnels dévastatrices... Alors oui, on ne peut que regretter l'ancien Holiday On Ice et son phénoménal succés sur les 5 continents....
glidream 3 years ago 5
Cher Gildream,
comme vous considérez Energia comme une nouvelle merde de Endemol, pour reprendre vos termes, pourriez-vous nous dire ce que vous n'avez pas aimez dans cette production. Au moins votre critique serait basée suer des faits et non pas sur un court extrait de quelques secondes. merci par avance.
montmartre18 3 years ago
Jz suppose que vous êtes Guillaume HIQUET, n'ayant aucune nouvelle de vous depuis quelques mois, je suppose que vous ne supportez pas que les autres qui savent plus de chose que vous, que connaissent mieux les gens d'HOI ex : OKLEY et le MOULIN ROUGE que vous, j'ai vu le show à FRIEBURG, une grande partie de sgans sont partis avant la fin, n'est ce pas un élément révélateur,
ICEREVUE1943 3 years ago
cher Icerevue, oui c'est moi et j'assume!!moi au moins je n'ai pas besoin d'étaler mes scoops ou mes relations pour me donner de la contenance. J'ai une vie privée que je n'étale pas pour me faire mousser.
montmartre18 3 years ago
SANS COMMENTAIRES M. MONTMARTRE !!
ICEREVUE1943 3 years ago
Cher Montmartre18,
Ce n'est pas sur un court extrait que je me base, mais sur le spectacle que je viens d'aller voir en première à Hambourg comme chaque année. Alors, en bref : manque d'imagination, costumes lamentables (Roberto Rosello nous avait habitué à mieux), spectacle sans émotions, patinage de bas niveau, musique par moments insupportable (du canadien René Dupéré), animations de patronage,...Seuls les éclairages sont, une fois de plus, réussis...
glidream 3 years ago 5
merci pour votre réponse et votre opinion. Seul le public jugera et c'est le plus important. A bientôt pour le prochain show.
montmartre18 3 years ago 2
Effectivement, montmartre18, seul le public jugera. Et c'est bien cela qui m'inquiète !!! A Hambourg, la Color Line Arena était encore moins remplie que d'habitude... Et tous les fans de Holiday le constatent : de moins en moins de spectateurs, aussi bien en France qu'à l'étranger. C'est bien pour cela que je considère que Endemol/Stage Entertainment sont les fossoyeurs de Holiday On Ice, car ils vont vraiment finir par tuer ce monument du spectacle....
glidream 3 years ago 5
quelle belle kermesse d'école !
messieurs endemol et stage holding sont fiers de vous les enfants, bravo.
j'espère que ENERGIA sera la dernière production de sois disans HOLIDAY ON ICE;
Mais jusqu'à ira la médiocrité des théatres hollandais on ice !!
ICEREVUE1943 3 years ago 2