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  • That is NOT where the camp of the saints are (Rev 20) so how could this battle take place there???? I believe Perry has got it wrong!!!

  • Oh my goodness. I had a dream a while ago and i was standing in a room inside this house looking place and i saw these cases with these tablets. they were like glowing blue. WoW. God you're too awesome. This is why I KNOW your WORD is TRUE!

  • Would the battle of gog and magog happen after the rapture?

  • @Freshnewz10 From what I gather the gog and magog in ezekiel 38 and 39 happen before the rapture. The gog and magog in revelation happens during christ 1000 year reign after the rapture. two different battles, gog and magog represent spirits.

  • @Mrfalconfan1762 No it's after the thousand years (Rev 20:7 and 8).

  • @stevehauk their two dif. battles.

  • @Mrfalconfan1762 We don't see two gog and magog battles in scripture. Rev 20 and Ez 38, 39 correspond perfectly as the same one. I believe it is happening right now too, only I believe like Rev 20 says, that we are now living in AFTER the millennial reign. There really is no other way to interpret it. The 1st century battle of Armageddon and gog and magog are NOT at the same time!!

  • @stevehauk in ezekiel 38 and 39, the battle happens to glrorify god. Israel supernaturally defeating it's enemies. In revelations christ will have already returned, meaning gods glory will have already been revealed and glorified durning the milliniel regin. Thats why I say two different battles. gog and magog is pricipalities of darkness. same spirits, dif battles. Thats just my interpretation, u could be right though.

  • @Mrfalconfan1762 So who is gog and magog in Ezequiel and who is the one in Revelation?

  • @Freshnewz10 from what I gather they're principalities of darkness. Same spirits, different battles. 

  • @rooster62379 Blessings to you my brother, Yes the time is at hand! Hope to see you also at the feast!

    Maybe today!

  • @rooster62379 Sharu Shalom Yarushalayim & America, the time is close brother in the twinkling of an eye, I can hear the footsteps of the bridegroom coming in the clouds already!!!

  • The Christians all across Europe had lots of things they used to do to torture and murder Jews in their towns. They'd go select the skinniest Jewish men and then the fattest Christians would ride them like donkeys in a race. The Jew who lost would then be murdered in front of his family. And the rest would be beaten and chased back to their section of town unless of course it developed into a full blown massacre which it often did.

  • Perry Stone doesnt know crap. If you want to know the meaning of what's in the Torah, then ask a Torah-observant JEW.

  • No matter what Islam Claims, Yeshua was a JEW.

    He went to Jewish Temple during Jewish FEAST...came to earth to fufill Jewish feasts that are mentioned in the Torah....through Death (Passover) and Resurrection (First Fruits) and will fulfill the rest of the Jewish feasts during the second coming.

    Islam is the spirit of Antichrist, that denies the Father and Son.......how many times did Jesus claimed he is the Son of God in the NT......why Islam views that as Blaspheme??? Make the Connection!

  • @ksebasti100 It doesnt matter if "Yeshua" was a Jew. He was a false messiah, a pagan HUMAN sacrifice which is an abomination to God as God says in the Torah, and he failed to fulfill even ONE of the actual Jewish prophecies - you know, the ones Christians say he will "come back" to fulfill. Except there is no such thing in the Torah or in Judaism as a second coming. There never has been. Believe in a pagan man-god human sacrifice if you want, but it's not God-given, it's PAGAN.

  • @ksebasti100 my friend, if you study the quran and hadith and teachings of the muslim messiah the Mahdi that makes 7 year peace with Israel you will see the mahdi of islam is non other then the antichrist of our Bible! You have some good knowledge keep up the good work brother, also if I may suggest since you seem very enlightened in the word,in the OT scripture, a great mystery revieled is the awaited 70th week of Daniel soon to be upon us! The time of Jacob;s trouble. & Exekiel 38,39 is now

  • People are being decieved because Islam teaches Jesus as the Messiah......although It doesn't make any difference---coz they don't like JEWS nor Christians.....Just using Jesus' names to deceive many as possible.

    Remember in quran it states "Allah is the greatest Deceiver" and according to the Bible "Satan is the deceiver, father of lies"

  • Did US asked the people who lived there? I bet some faraway place someone with someone else and noone who actually was effected by the buisness signed a sheet of paper, then the religious scumbags invaded the civilians who lived there already. I wouldn't call that sitation "without provocation".

    Also wouldn't call "withut provocation" when Israel sends settlers to territories of its neighbours, I. attacking its neighbours, terroising its neighbours, trying to steal Jerusalem etc.

    Israel provokes

  • @gagnashdiak You moron, Jerusalem belonged to the Jews for a thousand years before Islam even existed, while Arabs were still in the Arabian peninsula burying virgins in the sand to appease their pagan gods. Israel existed a thousand years before any Arab even set foot in the area. If it belonged to the Arabs why didn't the Arabs try to take it back from the British? Or the Turks? Or the Babylonians? Moron.

  • @SarahRachel59 And no jews even existed when that terrain belong to - what, sumeria? something else?

    And actually they tried / try. Just their army is not strong enough, and the international laws are constantly broken mainly by USA in that area.

    Why don't people inform about the situation in question???

  • @SarahRachel59

    The Bible predicted the Antichrist system of Islam long before Islam came. Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died for the sins of the world as predicted in the Old Testament. Mohammad was a violent war lord and the Mahdi will be the antichrist who will try to deceive the world into converting to Islam.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 There is no such ting as any son of God who dies for the sins of the world in the Jewish bible, sorry. This comes from paganism, not the Jewish bible or Judaism. The Jewish Messiah doesnt die for anyone's sins, there is no such thing as a man dying for another man's sins, in the Jewish bible, nor of a God who becomes a man which is idolatry according to God. You are welcome to believe these things, but they aren't from the Jewish bible. Be well.

  • @SarahRachel59

    Without the blood of Jesus you will die in your sins. The people who wrote the Bible were a lot closer to Jesus than Muhammed who came hundreds of years after Jesus and was a violent war lord. Islam is the Antichrist system that denies the Father and the Son. Compare the teachings of Mohammed to Jesus and see who is Antichrist.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 Sorry, that's human sacrifice which God says in the Torah is an abomination. That was one of the lessons to be learned in the binding of Isaac where a ram was substituted. There has never existed in the Torah given by God that the Messiah is a human sacrifice, this is an abomination and it comes from paganism, not from the Torah. Again, you are free to believe as you wish, but dont think that what you believe comes from the Torah as it comes from paganism instead.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 Islam is not the answer, but it is closer to what the Torah teaches that Christianity is, as Islam doesn't divide up God into three, Islam doesn't have God going around impregnating virgin women as the Torah doesnt' either, however, Islam did take on the Zoroastrian inventions of heaven and hell as Christianity also did but which the Torah doesn't have. There are more than 3000 mistranslated words, letters and entire verses turned around in the Christian old testament.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 The problem is that you've been taught these things about the Torah by CHRISTIANITY rather than by Judaism and thus you've been given incorrect meanings about everything in it - compounded by the fact that there are so many mistranslations - many of them done on purpose by the Catholic Church that have stuck in the Christian old testaments. What's been done is a completely foreign system being overlayed on top of the Jewish texts and the two religions are complete opposites.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 You wrote" Without the blood of Jesus you will die in your sins." Sorry, but God in the Torah teaches us that we shall have NO intermediary but are to go DIRECTLY to God and ask forgiveness for our sins in a process known as Tshuvah (turning). In this, we ask God for forgiveness for our sins directly, we also ask forgiveness from anyone we have harmed and we work to fix whatever we have broken or harmed, and then we turn from ever doing that sin again.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 "The blood of Jesus" is PAGANISM. We do not obtain anything by pagan virgin human sacrifice except idolatry. Sorry you have been taught so incorrectly about what God says in the Jewish Torah, but please do realise that this is the case and that what you believe comes from paganism, rather than God's word in the Torah. And again, if you choose to believe in that paganism, that's your choice but don't give the source for it as the Torah.

  • @SarahRachel59

    Jesus had to be born to live in the flesh and die for our sins. Only through His sacrafice can one have their sins cleansed. The Bible predicted the Antichrist Islam long before Islam came. Coincidence? I don't think so. The devil doesn't want people turning to Jesus Christ because without Jesus you will end up in hell. Jesus said that he is the way, the truth, and the life. Mohammed was a false prophet who denied the Father and the Son.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 You wrote: "Jesus had to be born to live in the flesh and die for our sins. Only through his sacrifice can one have their sins cleansed." What you describe is Paganism, human sacrifice, and this has never, ever existed in the Jewish Torah given by God for the Messiah. BOTH Mohammed and Jesus were false prophets and Jesus was a false Messiah according to the definitions of what a false prophet and a false Messiah are in the Torah given by God.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 Lots of ancient gods said that they are the way, the truth, the life and that no one comes to the father except by them. Krishna said this, Buddha said this, and many of the old greek and roman gods long before Jesus said this as well. Jesus was not the first to say this in fact he was late on the scene for saying this.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 So again, thats nice if that's what you want to believe, but know that it doesnt come from what God gave in the Jewish bible, it comes from paganism. So enjoy your paganism, I guess?

  • @SarahRachel59

    Well, funny how the Bible and Christianity has suffered more oprression and attacks than any other religion and yet after 2,000 years nothing has been able to destroy Christianity. The prophecies in the Bible, I believe, is the greatest evidence that the Bible is true. Of couse skeptics won't accept prophecies as evidence, why would they? But the evidence is there. Without Jesus you will go to hell.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 No, Christianity has CAUSED more oppression world wide than any other religion ever. If you want to know the REAL prophecies from the Torah then learn it from Judaism rather than from Christianity which is completely pagan. Christinianity has lasted for 2000 years NOT because it's legitimate but because it did the SAME THING that Islam is doing now. Christianity was spread by the sword, murdering, and forcibly converting peoples to it or slaughtering them.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 And by the way you do not know the prophecies in the bible, or at least not in the Jewish bible, you only know what Christianity has told you and the mistranslated old testaments you have. If you want to know the REAL prophecies from the Jewish bible, then learn it from Judaism.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 And last but not least, there is no "going to hell" in the Jewish bible. Nor going to heaven either. Every place you see the word "hell" or "heaven" in your Christian old testament, know that this is a mistranslation. The ideas of people going to a heaven or hell were invented by the Zoroastrians and Christianity (and Islam also) picked it up from there. It has never existed in the Jewish bible. And guess who invented the concept of Original Sin? The Catholics. Not Torah.

  • @SarahRachel59 The Torah teaches that the World to Come is THIS world, perfected back as it was in the Garden of Eden. Not up in some "heaven". And the Torah teaches that all people are born clean and pure, with untainted souls as our souls are actually a part of God Himself - as it says "And God breathed into them a soul" which means it came from God's very Essence itself. The Torah teaches that we are never separated from God, whether we are Jew or Gentile, and need no intermediary.

  • @SarahRachel59

    Wrong again. Christians have suffered more than any other religion in the world and the Bible stands on more evidence than any religious book in the world. Either you are ignorant of history or you are deliberately lying. What you are saying is totally false and absurd.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 No. The Jews have suffered more than any other religion in the world. Mainly at the hands of Christians. Why dont you go look up a list of Pogroms the Christians have instituted against the Jews over the past 2000 years. There are tens of THOUSANDS of incidents where Christians have burned Jewish children alive in their synagogues, tortured and beaten Jewish men, women, and children. Ever hear of Jew races that the Christians used to do?

  • @SarahRachel59 SoldierOfChrist110 is an ignorant opinionated squirt who is not worth talking to. He will not accept your opinion or anyone else's. Regardless of FACT, or EVIDENCE for any point you care to make.

    Anything I have said to him is wrong. He cannot answer any of my questions regading certain aspects of his opinions. And all he can do is quote a preacher or a book that has been writen and re-written countless times. Language to language and dialect to dialect.

  • @SarahRachel59 Shalom Sarah, I am a Christian and believe with all my heart Yeshua ha Messiach THE JEW was truly the son of YHWH, El Shadai, As I stated sister above, Anyone that claims to be a Christian and doesn't love Yisrael is a false Christian! I know you can see where I was attacked for no reason I can see by a King James thumper Kieth! The early church tried to take the Jewishness out of the Bible ie: Mathew instead of Mattityahu, John instead of Yochanan, Jehovah instead of YHWH,

  • @MrNickbento Peter instead of Kifa, The KJV only ones of what I believe Keith is don't even know the letter J wasn't even pronounced till the 16th century, Isaiah is Yesha' Yahu, Jeramiah is Yirmeyahu and so on, My love and passion for Yisrael as a true believer in Yeshua ha Messiach may have been what set this KJV guy off, I don't know but I know the spirit. The Ru-ach Ha Kodesh Guides me in my love for Israel. I as well as many true Christians would die for Israel. Sharu Shalom Yarushalayim

  • @MrNickbento Even the unholy koran warns "Make no friend of the Jew or the people of the book (the Christians) Cause they are friends. בבקשה, אל תשפטו ישוע על ידי כמה מחסידיו שנקרא שלו, נוצרים אמיתיים אוהבים את ישראל ידידי

    TODA RABA for listening to me!

  • @SoldierOfChrist110  And then there were the Pogroms every single Easter and Christmas all across Europe where the Priests and Pastors would get the population all riled up against the "Christ killer Jews" and after services the Christians would rush out and massacre the Jews in their homes. EVERY YEAR. And then we can go on and on about the pogroms that occurred "just because". ALL of this at the hands of Christians for TWO THOUSAND YEARS. Go on the internet and Google "List of Pogroms".

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 And as for the bible standing on more evidence than any religious book in the world, you are correct. Too bad you don't have the vaguest clue of what it says. You know what your Christian new testament says, and your horribly mistranslated Christian old testament says, but you have NO idea what the Jewish bible says at all. If you did, you wouldn't believe what you believe. Every single foundational belief of Christianity comes from PAGANISM, not from the Jewish bible.

  • @SarahRachel59 A true christian follows the bible teachings not traditions.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 And we could discuss the Holocaust as well, which took place among Christian populations, cities, and towns. The Holocaust could not have happened without TWO THOUSAND YEARS of the Christian population being brainwashed about the Jews by their Christian priests and pastors. And the Jews lost HALF their entire world population in that one. So sit down and shut up about how Christians have suffered more than any other religion in the world. Seriously.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 And lets not go with the old "Well those weren't REAL Christians who did things like that." Yes, they were. By the tens of millions for the past 2000 years. They were church attending Catholics AND Protestants who believed in Jesus as their Messiah and savior. You should go read Martin Luther's "The Jews and Their Lies". You know who Martin Luther was, yes? The founder of Protestant Christianity? He advocated burning Jews alive in their synagogues, even the children.

  • @SarahRachel59

    The Bible is true and has been proven by prophrcies and many other things, so please, stop lying. And it's obvious you have no idea of what a Christian is. A Christian is someone who follows Jesus Christ. A hypocrite is someone who claims to be a Christian and then kills people and does other bad things. A Christian will obey the gospel of Jesus Christ, a hypocrite will claim to be a Christian and then commit acts of evil.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 All Christians sin. No one is ever perfect. That's why we are to pray every day that we don't stumble or fall; however, being human we sometimes do bad things. We ask for forgivness. A Christian hypocrite, continues, over and over doing wrong, on purpose. They are not repenting of their sins and God will definately step in and act accordingly.

  • @JesusHoldMyHand1

    Amen. I agree. For a long time I struggled to overcome pornography but I feel I have now had the victory and I never gave up striving. But yes, a hypocrite won't repent.

  • @SoldierOfChrist110 -You are not alone in facing this issue. Thank God for his grace and mercy in giving us time to get it right. His love is sooo amazing that he would look beyond our faults & flaws. We will RECOVER, He will RESTORE. Keep striving brother. And let's pray for those who aren't delivered yet whom we need to reach while there is still time. Peace.

  • @Christlike31 Amen! God bless

  • @JesusHoldMyHand1 This is when I run to 1st John 1;9 the Christian bar of soap, then I take it to Romens 7, 8 ,

    The Grace of our Lord is never ending! When we sin he will give us little soft signs and then a tap on the schoulder and then a little shaking and sometimes like in my case a lightning bolt up the arse to get me back on track, like a good Father, it is not a fun thing when God takes his children to the woodshed, but he will never never disown one of his lost sheep that go astray!

  • @SarahRachel59 Satan works harder in the church then anywhere else, a Christian that does not stand with Israel is not a true believer in Yeshua Ha Messiah, Jesus the Messiach, Too many people judge Jesus by the people that claim to follow him and not what Jesus was about himself!

    Sharu Shalom Yarushalayim & America

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  • @keithehlert Can you please tell me exactly what your problem is with me? Or have you mistaken me for someone else? I SOUND VERY SELF RIGHTIOUS?????????? EXCUSE ME, Please read my posts and then read what you just wrote and tell me WHO sounds self rightious? WHAT EXACTLY did I say that freaked you out,, I just don't get it? Am I the only one here that doesn't see where Keith is coming from. Oh Holier then thou?

  • @MrNickbento

    that was sent to you by mistake,sorry,yet you asked me if it was a mistake,then you get nasty and sarcastic with me,chill out brother and get your anger in check.......thank you from a brother in christ.

  • @keithehlert Where did I get nasty and sarcastic with you? I get anger and our Lord had anger in the temple, if I am attacked I attack back, yes yes I have my own take on the turn the other cheek ok! Christians aren't the whimps people think we are, God is raising an army of Christian warriors for the last days that are upon us, and I will not be disrespected for my beliefs in Gods word Ok it wasn't meant for me but you chill out on the chill out crap, I don't take it from muslims or a Christian

  • @SarahRachel59 During the Holocaust Poland lost six million citizens alone, about 1/5th of the population three million of the dead were Polish Christians and the other three million Polish Jews Second best-kept secret of the Holocaust the greatest number Gentile rescuers of Jews were Christian despite the fact only in Poland were people immediately executed trying to save Jews The Yad Vashem museum in Israel honors the Righteous Christians Among the Nations, that risked life to save the Jews

  • Well, they have an understandable postion, given that Israel did not exist some 50 years back then, and was founded by force. Israel technically an invader who have no right being there if we consider international laws.

    Also given as Israel is actively attacking and terrorising its neighbouring countries and kicks up all contracts, the voices against them are understandable.

    But you picking out some nations from all the nations and calling those few all, that's not understandable.

  • No. You're a fundamentalist racist idiot.

    And what "nations"? Without any pecifics nations = all nation, what includes Israel too.

    Besides last I saw noone wanned to destroy Israel, but Israel wanned to kill all. Their religious texts says that too. I vote them down you sionist scumbag.

  • Israel will be sick later!

  • shut all the rubbish about israel a move on to the next subject. the Jewish people think they are the chosen ones and the rest of us are not, then why do they have to die like we die...

  • They don't think they are the chosen people. God says they are. They have denied Jesus as their Messiah, but will see he truly is afer this battle.The satanic muslim hordes that attack them with Russia wil see this also.Jesus is The True God of The Universe!

  • @Stickmodee u dopey idiot, muslims believe that jesus is the messiah and we together with the christians are waiting for his return, the jews believe he was an imposter, but will realise the truth when the fake messiah, aka antichrist comes and makes all the jews belive he is the messiah, which at that point jesus will return and kill him together with his muslim followers..the russians are not on muslim side, they just want any chance to become the ruling state of the world..

  • @MastaN15 Your lack of Biblical knowledge is astounding.Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet, not the Son of God. Read the book of Ezekial. (that's in The Bible)

  • @MastaN15 No, Muslims do NOT believe that Jesus was the Messiah. This is a very recent bit of propaganda invented by the Imams, and has NEVER existed in Islam until very recently. If Muslims believed Jesus was the Messiah then they'd be CHRISTIANS, not Muslims. Islam has its own Messiah figure, and it isn't Jesus, and it never was Jesus.

  • @MastaN15 Nothing you wrote comes from Islam, everything you wrote comes from Christianity. There is no "anti-christ" that's going to come and make the Jews believe he is the Messiah. There is only ONE criteria that God gave to the Jews to know who is the Messiah and who isn't, and that is the complete, total fulfillment of the JEWISH prophecies. Jesus didn't, which is why he wasn't the Messiah. And no FALSE Messiah will ever be able to do that because only the REAL Messiah is able to do it.

  • careful, some of these guys are swimming in the money

  • im gettin very excited bout the gog and magog war.

  • Dangerous end-time maniacs, that's what these people are.

  • The dry bones are not a figure of speech, it's literally there in plain sight. Ezekiel is speaking of the first resurrection, in which will happen after the Great Tribulation (Jacob's Trouble).

    And by the way; Gog and Magog are Demons, but we all forgot one thing...There are three Spirits gathering the kings of the Earth, preparing them for the great judgment. (Rev.)

  • To Yemeni Soldier .

    1. Where does it say they are descendants of Adam?

    2. They live within the same dimension of time but their state of reality in term of space is different from us by one direction of space. Geometrically speaking, what zhul-Qurnain did was to add one unit to 2 units and make a triangle out of two connected but open lines. He closed their space.

  • According to the Holly Quran, the GOG and MEGOG (could be the male female equivalent) were separated from the rest of us until the time when God will allow them to pass through that wall or dimension. Hence, the GOG and MEGOG are not Jews, Christians, Moslems, Persians or Russians. They are GOG and MEGOG. To know more about them, we need to understand the Holly Quran at some deeper levels away from our emotions and separate from our perception of the reality.

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  • badboy- If your family were being told by a murderer that he plans to kill you and all your family, wouldn't you try to prevent it? Israel has allowed plenty of time for the world to handle this situtation. They maintain a great deal of patience while the nations of the world drag their feet. We've heard the dictator of Iran threaten to wipe Israel off the map. What are the Israelis to do? Sit around and wait for a nuclear attack? A war with Iran will be Iran and the world's fault.

  • the bible is a code book. God is not against humans, but against dark demonic spirits that rule the air. Gog and Magog refer to spiritual tyrants who oppress humans. sometimes they act through humans. but the Lord God, King of Heaven and earth will rain down fire on them.

  • gideonvsmidian - "And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

    -- Zechariah 12:3"

  • gideonvsmidian - Joel 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring back the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2I will gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will execute judgment upon them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations: and they have parted my land,

  • i agree with you sooo much!

  • Very interesting, as usual.

  • Yeh, i wonder why britain and US are the only ones supporting Israel. Because both britian and US is controlled by jews. They provoke wars and American people will suffer first when the dollar collapses soon. Many americans are already homeless cos of jews, evil animals.

    Bush's grandad is Alistar crowley the most evil man last century along with hitler

  • These all false prophets just to make money the Most High did not send them to us. Israel have always worship wood and stone and will be doing so until the Most High save Israel Ezekiel 37 read the entire chapter and see how it all will go down. Do not listen to these people all they want is money. If people stop going to church and buy their book you will see how the whole earth will change. Again false prophets only repeat more confusion for us all. Wake up people they are different from jones

  • Gog and magog are the secular western civillisation.we know that gog and magog are evil as are the armies of darkness who posess great power.the arab states have no power save Gods which is more than sufficient to defeat the armies of the anti christ.

  • Excellent, Praise Abba for revealing His Will and plans at this time. Micah 1:2 Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let The Lord GOD be witness against you, The Lord from HIS holy temple. Isa 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of Mine anger, and the staff in their hand is Mine indignation. Let us learn to pray that all may love and respect The Almighty One True God!
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