@KickBxr123 I dont really talk about killing. if you ask me the best martial art for fighting, from the list you gave me, it would be muay thai or bokator
Southeast Asians have the best martial arts...they only use the hard parts of the body to hit soft tissues. I'm Vietnamese and I think our martial arts is way too fancy. Muay Thai and Bokator are MUCH more practical for street fights. Of course, it depends on how much you train too.
Because cambodian hate thailand they Spread Rumors about thai stole their martial art if anyone want to belive them that fine but if anyone want to know the Truth u can search in youtube between our art before develop to sport martial art search " Oldest Thai Boxing footage ever from 1920's " and " Bokator/Pradal Serey, Angkor Wat Cambodia 1930s "
I really like this style and would actually be interested in traveling to cambodia to train. (Muay Chaiya also caught my attention)..I'm sure you get this question alot but I do humbly ask, how would bokator fare in MMA? I do remember you mentioned in another video that the ground game isn't as developed as BJJ, but in your opinion would the standup translate well into MMA?
@cruzcontrol184 We just fought in our first MMA tournament in Malaysia last week. I won my first fight. Bokator fighter, Tun Serey won two fights and placed second in welterweight division in an event called Mayhem II. The videos are on my page. but yes, we all need more ground work.
@brooklynmonk1Hi, thanks for your quick reply. Just because it is on Wikipedia or any Cambodin tourism site, doesn't mean it is correct. You ask anyone who can read Cambodian, and they will tell you that it ends with a "b" and not a "p." "Reab" means "flattened" or "defeated". The spelling was incorrectly made by "probably" a French person and, I think, people have not realised that it is incorrect. Now that English is spoken by people all over the world, the spelling should be fixed!
@LosoIAm actually, journalism standard is wikipedia. that is how journalists standardize their spelling. so, if it is on wikipedia, then yes, it is correct. but you can google a thousand sites and find that the standard trasncription of siem reap is, as i have written it. also, before you go on a quiotic quest, remember there is NO STANDARD transcription of Khmer language. In the absence of a standard, then the default is the most used, which is siem reap.
Hi, I partly agree that Wikipedia is regarded as the source "most" people go to; I, myself, go there from time to time for something beyond my knowledge. I am, however, somewhat disappointed by your reply - not because it is NOT what I was hoping to hear, but because how wrong the millions of sites are about the spelling of Siam Reab! I agree that there are NO STANDARD transcription of the Khmer language, but that doesn't mean that we all should let something like this go uncorrected.
It is not unheard of that spellings had been wrong for some time before someone realised it. I have also noticed how the Grand Master spelled Boxkator. With due respect, I feel sad by his choice - it is somewhat ironic that he has taken upon himself to revive this precious treasure but had relaxed on his choice of spelling. Well, I thank you for the oppotunity to engage in such friendly debate. Please keep on doing the great work. Best regards.
@LosoIAm I hope I dont insult you or any Khmer people. i am a linguist by education and training and i try to find truth in my research. so, sometimes it will find in favor of khmer, sometimes in favor of Thai. this is the reality. In this case, i am not finding in favor of anyone. Chinese has two primary transliteration standards. but until khmer spelling in khmer, and until a standard spoken dialect is decided upon, there will be these kinds of arguments.
Hi, I am not offended (I can't speak for other Khmer people, though, but I am sure some of them couldn't careless - very sad). I am not a linguist, unfortuately; however, as stated earlier on, I am somewhat of a purist (and I might be autistic). I realise that things change but in some cases, it doesn't mean they have to change. I cannot stand with when people use verbal contractions when it should be possessions (e.g. it's vs its) - esp. with native speakers! I am not perfect, though!
You will have found that in spoken Khmer language, we don't place enough emphasis on the end syllable. Anyway, with the spelling of Siem Reap, it would have been perfectly alright with me had I not learnt to speak English. But this spelling - from an English semantics point of view - contractdicts the very original intention of our ancestors, which is to remind us that the invading Thai were flattened (defeated)! I hope that some scholars will share my views - REAB and not REAP (from us). Thx
@brooklynmonk1 Hi, the feeling is mutual - I hope I didn't insult you in any way. Your video is about the re-discovery of an ancient art. When I was young, I only heard of it but had never seen how lBokatau is done. (Sorry again, ka"tau" sounds close to lion than "kato" which means container). Thanks once again for the friendly (and intellectual) exchange of views; it's been really engaging. Keep up the fantastic work!!! Or kunn. PS: perhaps I should do a study on phonetic transcription.
@LosoIAm I personally prefer bokator for the simple reason that no one has been able to prove to me that the le in lebokator didnt come from French. Grand master and i have discussed his spelling and i decided that Boxkator is his brand name and he can trade mark it, which he couldnt do with Bokator or lebokator. so, i support him.
@LosoIAm Not only is there no standard for Khmer transcription, BUT in many Asian languages, the P nad the B pronunciation are interchangeable, depending on region, even the number are sometimes transcribed with a p instead of a b. in Philippines and Cambodia and several other languages this is the case. if you do a phonetic transcription of a recording of 100 khmer native speaker, you will hear siem reap more often than reab.
@LosoIAm The same way scholars don't actually know how Latin was pronounced in the days of the Roman empire, although everything is written the same today, we also dont know how things were pronounced in khmer prior to about 1950 which would be some of the oldest films of khmers speaking. khmer spelling was only standardized in the last 50 years. with less than 50% of the population functionally literate, spelling does not dictate pronunciation.
I also like your comment about how the Khmer resent the comparison of prodal serey with muay Thai. I don't wish to get into a debate of who copies who, but just want to point out that the Thai writing is less intricate than ours - a sign of something that is not the original. Just like taking a photo-copy or facimile of an original document! Thank you for the video clips. You are a real fighter/survivor in life: the number of times when you had only a couple of dollars left in your pocket!
Hi, you have been in Cambodia for quite some time and you should have realised by now how most people prefer to stick with the main stream - safety in number, I guess. They don't/cannot question the way things are and usually, they obediently obeying orders! Go spell "Siam Reab" the way it's been spelled! and they will probably say, "Yes, sir!" Many of them seem to perfer taking the easy way out to stopping to think if there are other alternatives.
I will have another go at trying to make an entry in the Wikipedia to get things right. I can't live with the thought of something that is not right!!! Thanks once again. Regards.
Baringin Sakti Pencak Silat Harimau Minangkabau - (Seminar) Oslo, Norway on July 11th, 12th , 2009, Urban Harimau Silat,Harimau Pencak Silat, Tigers of Pencak Silat,Harimau Pencak Silat Seminar, Pamacan the Javanese tiger fighting system Mpeg2, PENCAK SILAT with GURU EDWARD LEBE are some of plenty video in youtube contains techniques as i mentioned featuring in the video above.
about technique at 4:25 which use straight lower kick when your body on the ground while elbow block the feet is too common in silat. see youtube silat harimau. traditional silat have use too much elbow during in low position or ground fighting to hit side of the knee (joint), behind knee (at the fold), and at the bone above foot print. u can see through youtube late herman suwanda1994 training video, bambang suwanda cikalong elbow, if u see old 60s malay film, elbow smashing bone tech is usual.
ha3 totally same with silat. those techniques are very significant in silat. for example catching leg n hit by elbow n one is very significant the technique at 4:25 its very distinguish in silat. ha3 what even the malays teasing some silat techniques as not work but its exist in this video. even in ufc i see this techniques as powerful tool to kep opponent far from u if u falling down.
Fight like a man bitch. Stop hiding behind women and children if you(Khmers bitch) still wanna call yourself(Khmers bitch) a soldier. The army should protect women and children and not hiding behind them as you(Khmer (bitch) soldiers) do!!!
Ps. Oh just one more thing please tell your general to stop crying in front of people it's really disgusting act. One more Oscar Award for Khmer bitch!!! 5555555555555555555555555
and spanish vegetarian man at chiang mai. Muay thai Sang kha. i also know,But if u really learn thai-Myanmar history you will know Muay thai not come from Bokator, combodia just restoration martial arts as teach sport not many yrs ago. And when they are boxing between thai-laos-myanmar-combodia most of country win is thai and myanmar,If bokator are original why most of time never ever win since 900yrs ago until now?
Bokator has been existing for over 2000 years and today Khmer still practicing Bokator that Thai can't lie.
People need to learn Khmer Empire and Khmer Civilization history if they want to know about Thai & Myanmar.
Laos & Myanmar have no problem with Khmer because their history agreed with Khmer history except Thai. In Myanmar Museum today described Khmer warrior statues as powerful because they knew that Khmer had liberated Siam from Burma.
1:27 it's not only style in the world dude,Thai land / Myanmar also use. and Even combodia it's oldest history but Muany thai Not from Bokotor,Otherswise combodia will not lost the land for thailand from the first place. this people are not kmer they combodian different ethnic already. and spanish vegetarian man at chiang mai.
If Muay Thai not from Bakotor, why Thai wear Khmer Yantra? Cambodia might lose land to Thai for helping Thai from the Mongol killing and that's part of our Khmer pride for helping all ethnics form the Mongol included Thai.
im khmer mix american i finish the cambodian highschool.came back to america and im in the us army right now.i used to be a khmer boxer for 1yr but im proud of it .BOKATOR
antonio, much cooler and in depth than those egomaniacs on discovery and the history channel (ex: we sensed after one day that we were walking in the legendary path of the gods, and doing quite amazing..etc)
Hey Antonio, what do you really think is the most deadliest martial art for killing? Bokator? Silat? Wing Chun? Thank You
KickBxr123 1 month ago
@KickBxr123 I dont really talk about killing. if you ask me the best martial art for fighting, from the list you gave me, it would be muay thai or bokator
brooklynmonk1 1 month ago
Southeast Asians have the best martial arts...they only use the hard parts of the body to hit soft tissues. I'm Vietnamese and I think our martial arts is way too fancy. Muay Thai and Bokator are MUCH more practical for street fights. Of course, it depends on how much you train too.
Justmyopinionlol 2 months ago
Some of them where in muayfit MMA tournament , and one get n2 position.
Rideroftheyggdrasil 2 months ago
If these guys went to the UFC oh man...
EricSemenko 4 months ago
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Because cambodian hate thailand they Spread Rumors about thai stole their martial art if anyone want to belive them that fine but if anyone want to know the Truth u can search in youtube between our art before develop to sport martial art search " Oldest Thai Boxing footage ever from 1920's " and " Bokator/Pradal Serey, Angkor Wat Cambodia 1930s "
it total deference fighting style.
arm61037 5 months ago
I really like this style and would actually be interested in traveling to cambodia to train. (Muay Chaiya also caught my attention)..I'm sure you get this question alot but I do humbly ask, how would bokator fare in MMA? I do remember you mentioned in another video that the ground game isn't as developed as BJJ, but in your opinion would the standup translate well into MMA?
cruzcontrol184 5 months ago
@cruzcontrol184 We just fought in our first MMA tournament in Malaysia last week. I won my first fight. Bokator fighter, Tun Serey won two fights and placed second in welterweight division in an event called Mayhem II. The videos are on my page. but yes, we all need more ground work.
brooklynmonk1 5 months ago
I REALLY WANT TO LEARN THIS STYLE !
chriscriswell1 6 months ago
trop bon ça dégage
TeukTnotChou 7 months ago
Hi there, the spelling should be Siem Reab or Siam Reab. Since when did they reap from us? Soam or kun.
LosoIAm 8 months ago
@LosoIAm The spelling of Siem Reap is correct. You can verify it on wikipedia or any Cambodia tourism site.
brooklynmonk1 8 months ago
@brooklynmonk1Hi, thanks for your quick reply. Just because it is on Wikipedia or any Cambodin tourism site, doesn't mean it is correct. You ask anyone who can read Cambodian, and they will tell you that it ends with a "b" and not a "p." "Reab" means "flattened" or "defeated". The spelling was incorrectly made by "probably" a French person and, I think, people have not realised that it is incorrect. Now that English is spoken by people all over the world, the spelling should be fixed!
LosoIAm 8 months ago
@LosoIAm actually, journalism standard is wikipedia. that is how journalists standardize their spelling. so, if it is on wikipedia, then yes, it is correct. but you can google a thousand sites and find that the standard trasncription of siem reap is, as i have written it. also, before you go on a quiotic quest, remember there is NO STANDARD transcription of Khmer language. In the absence of a standard, then the default is the most used, which is siem reap.
brooklynmonk1 8 months ago
Hi, I partly agree that Wikipedia is regarded as the source "most" people go to; I, myself, go there from time to time for something beyond my knowledge. I am, however, somewhat disappointed by your reply - not because it is NOT what I was hoping to hear, but because how wrong the millions of sites are about the spelling of Siam Reab! I agree that there are NO STANDARD transcription of the Khmer language, but that doesn't mean that we all should let something like this go uncorrected.
LosoIAm 8 months ago
It is not unheard of that spellings had been wrong for some time before someone realised it. I have also noticed how the Grand Master spelled Boxkator. With due respect, I feel sad by his choice - it is somewhat ironic that he has taken upon himself to revive this precious treasure but had relaxed on his choice of spelling. Well, I thank you for the oppotunity to engage in such friendly debate. Please keep on doing the great work. Best regards.
LosoIAm 8 months ago
PS: I also like your advice to kids to get some teaching qualificaiton - it could come in hand one day.
LosoIAm 8 months ago
@LosoIAm I hope I dont insult you or any Khmer people. i am a linguist by education and training and i try to find truth in my research. so, sometimes it will find in favor of khmer, sometimes in favor of Thai. this is the reality. In this case, i am not finding in favor of anyone. Chinese has two primary transliteration standards. but until khmer spelling in khmer, and until a standard spoken dialect is decided upon, there will be these kinds of arguments.
brooklynmonk1 8 months ago
Hi, I am not offended (I can't speak for other Khmer people, though, but I am sure some of them couldn't careless - very sad). I am not a linguist, unfortuately; however, as stated earlier on, I am somewhat of a purist (and I might be autistic). I realise that things change but in some cases, it doesn't mean they have to change. I cannot stand with when people use verbal contractions when it should be possessions (e.g. it's vs its) - esp. with native speakers! I am not perfect, though!
LosoIAm 8 months ago
You will have found that in spoken Khmer language, we don't place enough emphasis on the end syllable. Anyway, with the spelling of Siem Reap, it would have been perfectly alright with me had I not learnt to speak English. But this spelling - from an English semantics point of view - contractdicts the very original intention of our ancestors, which is to remind us that the invading Thai were flattened (defeated)! I hope that some scholars will share my views - REAB and not REAP (from us). Thx
LosoIAm 8 months ago
@brooklynmonk1 Hi, the feeling is mutual - I hope I didn't insult you in any way. Your video is about the re-discovery of an ancient art. When I was young, I only heard of it but had never seen how lBokatau is done. (Sorry again, ka"tau" sounds close to lion than "kato" which means container). Thanks once again for the friendly (and intellectual) exchange of views; it's been really engaging. Keep up the fantastic work!!! Or kunn. PS: perhaps I should do a study on phonetic transcription.
LosoIAm 8 months ago
@LosoIAm I personally prefer bokator for the simple reason that no one has been able to prove to me that the le in lebokator didnt come from French. Grand master and i have discussed his spelling and i decided that Boxkator is his brand name and he can trade mark it, which he couldnt do with Bokator or lebokator. so, i support him.
brooklynmonk1 8 months ago
@LosoIAm Not only is there no standard for Khmer transcription, BUT in many Asian languages, the P nad the B pronunciation are interchangeable, depending on region, even the number are sometimes transcribed with a p instead of a b. in Philippines and Cambodia and several other languages this is the case. if you do a phonetic transcription of a recording of 100 khmer native speaker, you will hear siem reap more often than reab.
brooklynmonk1 8 months ago
@LosoIAm The same way scholars don't actually know how Latin was pronounced in the days of the Roman empire, although everything is written the same today, we also dont know how things were pronounced in khmer prior to about 1950 which would be some of the oldest films of khmers speaking. khmer spelling was only standardized in the last 50 years. with less than 50% of the population functionally literate, spelling does not dictate pronunciation.
brooklynmonk1 8 months ago
I also like your comment about how the Khmer resent the comparison of prodal serey with muay Thai. I don't wish to get into a debate of who copies who, but just want to point out that the Thai writing is less intricate than ours - a sign of something that is not the original. Just like taking a photo-copy or facimile of an original document! Thank you for the video clips. You are a real fighter/survivor in life: the number of times when you had only a couple of dollars left in your pocket!
LosoIAm 8 months ago
Hi, you have been in Cambodia for quite some time and you should have realised by now how most people prefer to stick with the main stream - safety in number, I guess. They don't/cannot question the way things are and usually, they obediently obeying orders! Go spell "Siam Reab" the way it's been spelled! and they will probably say, "Yes, sir!" Many of them seem to perfer taking the easy way out to stopping to think if there are other alternatives.
LosoIAm 8 months ago
I will have another go at trying to make an entry in the Wikipedia to get things right. I can't live with the thought of something that is not right!!! Thanks once again. Regards.
LosoIAm 8 months ago
looks a lot like muay thai
shadowlesswarrior 8 months ago
@shadowlesswarrior You have obvioulsy never seen muay thai. This looks almost nothing like muay thai.
brooklynmonk1 8 months ago
Baringin Sakti Pencak Silat Harimau Minangkabau - (Seminar) Oslo, Norway on July 11th, 12th , 2009, Urban Harimau Silat,Harimau Pencak Silat, Tigers of Pencak Silat,Harimau Pencak Silat Seminar, Pamacan the Javanese tiger fighting system Mpeg2, PENCAK SILAT with GURU EDWARD LEBE are some of plenty video in youtube contains techniques as i mentioned featuring in the video above.
piantora 8 months ago
about technique at 4:25 which use straight lower kick when your body on the ground while elbow block the feet is too common in silat. see youtube silat harimau. traditional silat have use too much elbow during in low position or ground fighting to hit side of the knee (joint), behind knee (at the fold), and at the bone above foot print. u can see through youtube late herman suwanda1994 training video, bambang suwanda cikalong elbow, if u see old 60s malay film, elbow smashing bone tech is usual.
piantora 8 months ago
ha3 totally same with silat. those techniques are very significant in silat. for example catching leg n hit by elbow n one is very significant the technique at 4:25 its very distinguish in silat. ha3 what even the malays teasing some silat techniques as not work but its exist in this video. even in ufc i see this techniques as powerful tool to kep opponent far from u if u falling down.
piantora 8 months ago
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Fight like a man bitch. Stop hiding behind women and children if you(Khmers bitch) still wanna call yourself(Khmers bitch) a soldier. The army should protect women and children and not hiding behind them as you(Khmer (bitch) soldiers) do!!!
Ps. Oh just one more thing please tell your general to stop crying in front of people it's really disgusting act. One more Oscar Award for Khmer bitch!!! 5555555555555555555555555
engpcx 8 months ago
and spanish vegetarian man at chiang mai. Muay thai Sang kha. i also know,But if u really learn thai-Myanmar history you will know Muay thai not come from Bokator, combodia just restoration martial arts as teach sport not many yrs ago. And when they are boxing between thai-laos-myanmar-combodia most of country win is thai and myanmar,If bokator are original why most of time never ever win since 900yrs ago until now?
siamtiger99 1 year ago
@siamtiger99
Bokator has been existing for over 2000 years and today Khmer still practicing Bokator that Thai can't lie.
People need to learn Khmer Empire and Khmer Civilization history if they want to know about Thai & Myanmar.
Laos & Myanmar have no problem with Khmer because their history agreed with Khmer history except Thai. In Myanmar Museum today described Khmer warrior statues as powerful because they knew that Khmer had liberated Siam from Burma.
KhmerSpirit 1 year ago
1:27 it's not only style in the world dude,Thai land / Myanmar also use. and Even combodia it's oldest history but Muany thai Not from Bokotor,Otherswise combodia will not lost the land for thailand from the first place. this people are not kmer they combodian different ethnic already. and spanish vegetarian man at chiang mai.
siamtiger99 1 year ago
@siamtiger99
If Muay Thai not from Bakotor, why Thai wear Khmer Yantra? Cambodia might lose land to Thai for helping Thai from the Mongol killing and that's part of our Khmer pride for helping all ethnics form the Mongol included Thai.
KhmerSpirit 1 year ago
im khmer mix american i finish the cambodian highschool.came back to america and im in the us army right now.i used to be a khmer boxer for 1yr but im proud of it .BOKATOR
gebgroup 1 year ago
i wanna go to cambodian some day. i am khmer but never been there.
MegaMoFUnk 1 year ago
antonio, much cooler and in depth than those egomaniacs on discovery and the history channel (ex: we sensed after one day that we were walking in the legendary path of the gods, and doing quite amazing..etc)
mallcorekidsdie 1 year ago
interesting.... i should go learn since im khmer lol
x0ska8rgirl0x 1 year ago
I'm glad to see Khmer Martial Arts is alive again so cheers Cambodia!
09Bora 1 year ago 9
That right man they steal almost everything from our martial art
kambodiaboz 1 year ago
I got to train with Deven at the Siem Reap Boxkator school in Siem Reap.
I chose a terrible time of day. Noon in the dry season. Deven was nice enough to show me some new moves anyway!
Sinn Meang at 855(0) 12 22 99 13 helped translate because Pearum was not around. Now he's hooked too!
Thanks so much for all the help Antonio!
footLogic 1 year ago
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That Knee breaker can really be useful in UFC! It will fuck somebody up!
khmerpreah401 1 year ago
That Knee breaker can really be useful in UFC! It will fuck somebody up!
khmerpreah401 1 year ago
@khmerpreah401 ankle grabbing is illegal in cage fighting like ufc...
WarrenKeingGaw 1 year ago
I like the Eagle style!!!
khmerpreah401 1 year ago
Going to Cambodia in December 2010 to learn Bokator. Can't wait
KhmerAngkor221 2 years ago
@KhmerAngkor221 make us khmers proud!
unknownally 1 year ago
im khmer im goin bck to cambodia to learn...
XxCRISSMINDxX 2 years ago
Cool man, please come, grand master loves to meet khmers from other countries.
brooklynmonk1 2 years ago 3
lol fish? panda? really?
WarrenKeingGaw 2 years ago
man some of those are so close to traditional jujistu moves its insane
lagook 2 years ago
Tough life in Cambodia. Inflation seems high too.
TrueRidahTP 2 years ago
Great video. I didn't know Antonia knew how to speak khmer.
TrueRidahTP 2 years ago
great show
Bebopchiflow 2 years ago
damn economy. So, how are the teachers in this clip surviving? Do they make wages from teaching?
randyds5 2 years ago