fireballs - drop forging

[Gazadaman86]

They used to use Chuck Norris, but he kept vaporising the steel after he hit puberty...

[MysteryBiker123]

jesus thats loud :P

[Ponyboy8877]

Hangings are too civilized and this is how we should deal with people on death row.

[dabooge]

Glad I'm the one making the dies instead of the ones using them :)

[bosmachining]

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[ektrules]

How many days since the last injury? :)

[SuperSlick501]

 i work at lefer forg in jackson mi you guys have the same hammers wee have your place is a hell of alot cleaner than our we have dirt floors and closer cordors

[SuperSlick501]

i work at lefer forg in jackson mi you guys have the same hammers wee have your place is a hell of alot cleaner than our we have dirt floors and closer cordors

[moiup59]

il sont fou moi aussi je travail dans une forge est ce n'est pas comme ca

[AIexanderHartdegen]

Dont forget your hands under the press....

[aryesegal1988]

Shouldn't they be wearing masks or something? All that smoke can't be good for them... :(

[Gwinn9]

Neat video here, hammerman doin the oiling and pulling himself. Where I work, we forge much larger items for big machinrey and airplanes of that nature, wish I could get a vid of our 50,000 or 30,000 drop hammers in action.

[53Chevy53]

The place I work at the Heatermen brings the bar and sets it on the hammer. We make Brake leavers for trains. The largest Hammer we have is 12,000 whats that one ur running?

[Mar1Popp1ns]

Safety standards? That's dang medieval...

[vault41]

that is fucking mental shit!

[joshjake2003]

thats odd they make the trimmers wear aprons to

[EvoTR]

yeah i understand.its dövme method. in Turkish language. check this video.

watch?v=pI1HwZ2VeMM

[EvoTR]

what can we produce with this system? any exapmle?

[graysmoke89]

i could just imagine dwarves doing this down in the middle of a mountain lol.

[Mlwtca]

Good ol American muscle!Keep it up guys!

[rickster348]

I love this video.

Now THIS is the American worker!

[ogenmatic]

that first "spank" is awesome...

[bright1029]

I thought the factory in US will always be more advance and safe....

hmm.....I can't sure now....

[openroad88]

Let me guess, these aren't parts for the Prius.

[Sportypeck]

Hello,

Was the first item for a RR track switch machine? This looks so much like what we refered to as a banjo. If so, these were made at General Railway Signal back in the 70's in Rochester NY. I use to repair the dies. Imagine crawling into that hammer and grinding out burrs in the upper die. Dirty nasty work, I would go back to the day in a second! I loved it!

[lewandlo]

Wow ,seems like a lot of work just to make a car keys.. hehehehh gr8 stuff

[rangegod93]

My dad used to be a drop forge stamper.. and my grandad.. and my uncles

[sshhrroooomm]

that..my friend..is freakin' awsome!!......ive done my time in sheetmetal, i can mig, tig, gas weld + cut, shape, form, press, weld structural steel, braze and solder...but i really wanna get into blacksmithing and forging...awsome video mate

[chole4me1]

holly fuck, that looks like a tough job, i hope it pays well

[bgrindle2]

This is awesome footage! I have done this exact type of forging before, from 2004 - 2007. It is a great representation of how it's done. It is one of the craziest, exciting, dangerous and hottest job's I have ever had. We need to keep this alive in America!!!

[4inches4u]

Hey, are you guys union? How much do you guys make? We got the 50k ton press over here at wyman-gordon in ma............Last year I did 90k:)

[peterfloriswerkman]

Hi Jeremy,

which company is this? I would like to know more about it. I'm from holland and i'm working for a factory which produces metalproducts. I'm searching a company which is good at dropforging.

I lok forward to hearing from you.

Yours faithfully,

Peter Werkman

[jeremywight]

@peterfloriswerkman

This is Rockford Drop Forge & Machine

(815) 963-8991

2031 9th St, Rockford, IL 61104 USA

[forginghammer]

@peterfloriswerkman air steam die forging hammer is an old type forging hammer which well know as heavy energy consumption, low production and heavy hammer running costs.

[forginghammer]

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[Armagedon2011ful]

@peterfloriswerkman ovo je stari način...ima bolji i noviji...

[RayAir1]

So now I know what Hell looks like.

[traderjoes]

I miss American manufacturing! I hope we get it again, with manufacturing comes innovation, and the country with manufacturing creates the technology that shapes the future. When our politicians enabled this to leave, they stole from us the potential for our future and jobs for ourselves and our children. They claimed that jobs like this were jobs that no one wanted to do. Thats bullshit! I loved doing this stuff. There are not enough Starbucks are Targets to employ everyone.

[YorkyTalky]

Close the place down... I cant watch no more!... the place is a liability!

[alyxlyon]

I would say they wear ear plugs or something. The sound is quite loud, tho some of them don't even seem to wear eye protection even.

[hbdavew]

Fun With Fire.

[Valtomotive]

2:46 huge fireball

[petegibbs]

I seen this being done when I was a kid. Made in Birmingham stamped on it., cool video 5 stars.`

[hassleoffa]

My dad was a hammer smith for 40 years ... I remember watching him do this and scaring the shit out of me.

[12valvepower1]

industry is power

[Modelwd45]

i'm the eldest trimmerman at my shop so any time there is a hammerman out I take his job and for me it was always more shock and all watching it then running it. the two things that do scare me is on our hammers the two keys at the tops of the arms would wear and break the ends off then rattle out and fall 20 ft. to land right beside you and they weigh about 50 pounds. second our old hammer had a goofy key that held in the top die i seen it shear off and the die fell out.

[PyroJesusFreak]

1:53 AWESOME!!

[stu1300]

yeah cool job but no need to use that much lubricant, he's just doin it to show off and make himself look cool

[53Chevy53]

@stu1300 haha thought so

[CuriousEarthMan]

What a fantastic video! Thanks for posting it! One of my all time favorite ones on youtube. much appreciation to you!

[nocturnarboreal]

what song is this?

[RailRoadWorker18]

Thats pritty dam cool!

[mikiltkm]

画像いただきます。

[hardwares1]

WHOA! I now a *greatly* renewed appreciation for old wrenches and other tools I have that say "drop forged in USA" on 'em. *super* video! five stars!

[pilgor87]

Ya i never really thought what that meant

[dereliferhat]

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[daniele87guitar]

and what about safety??? Is it normal that a hell shaped flame blows a couple of inches from the worker???

[tkothompson]

ya that's normal depending on what type of hammer your running.. where i work it doesn't happen much.. but there is one part that we run it does do it if we have to run restrikes... it sucks... u get the shit burnt out of ya...@daniele87guitar

[pinoyz3]

must be local steel workers union asking for more money as if they went to college and applied and used what they have learned.

[HollywoodWags]

When I was younger, I wouldn't have minded working this type of job...

Not anymore...rough stuff.

[smileynirvana2]

man what a cool job.

[shutmeup15623]

try and light a ciggarete on that....

[rutlandplace]

Put yer head under that in the morning I tell yeh boy that'll get rid of your hangover.

[desposyy]

and coincodentally all future hangovers as well

[whpcguru]

Wow, I'll never bitch about the heat and noise at my job EVER again! This all seems so archaic and primative, hard to belive it is still a viable manufacturing process.

[anvilsring]

MEDIEVAL! Now that's droppin' the hammer on em. What's the size of that hammer by the way? Is it in Rockford, Illinois? Great posting!

[russbloke]

done this job for 8yrs ....glad i did ...my jobs easy know compared to this work !!!!!

[cubbiotti1980]

What is a fireball?

[RayAir1]

What a pit

[herberticuz]

che lavoro di merda....

[SilkSwe]

I can't believe that they're not wearing earprotection. Maybe they're all deaf.

[Enersha06]

@SilkSwe maybe they have those itty bitty plugs, but even if they did, would they go deaf anyways?

[jj8van]

@Enersha06 lol, yes they wear ear plugs. You can feel the percussion of the sound waves against your skin. I would imagine you would go deaf near instantly without them. You just cant see them because you try to get the ear plug all the way in your ear. Ive seen ppl have to use a tweezer to get them out

[DixonPhano]

@SilkSwe I used to dream noises at night too......

[kblopp]

@SilkSwe Trust me they are wearing earplugs, they have them buried all the way into their ear canals. No one has to convince you to wear ear plugs in a forging facility.

[DUGTRUX]

@SilkSwe MOST HAMMER MEN ARE DAMN NEAR DEAF, AND HAVE LOST TEETH FROM THE PART STICKIN TO THE UPPER DIE THERE BY GETTIN HIT IN THE FACE WITH TONGS



[53Chevy53]

@SilkSwe They are most likly wearing earplugs. I work at a Forging Plant we don't wear muff. Just plugs

[askAlanNow]

Hate to get a finger stuck.

[Baldur825]

That kinda looks like fun to me...

mind you, I'd be wearing a respirator... and keeping damn sure my hands stayed out of the way.

[tkothompson]

not fun bro, its a fucking workout....@Baldur825

[MadMonkeyVids]

From 2:02 that looks terrible, hell on earth with those red glares of the forges :S

[crazyhugs]

that looks scary

[Connor38]

this reminds me of the time my grandparent told me that he was fixing one of these and it came down on his hand and crushed it

[peckerou812]

I spent part of my apprenticeship as a die sinker. I had to crawl into these hammers and grind out burrs that grabbed that red hot steel and flung it out of the hammer.

Stand in the way of one of those fireballs sometime, you won't do it again. This brings back horrible memories. the smoke is nothing, it's all the abspestos that sucks.

[ShrikeTheGamer]

boah XD

[lucky7z]

I want that job!

[motorbreath302]

Wow, thats awesome. Truely you foundry workers don't get enough credit for what you do.

[Timerider]

No doubt these are the guys who truly deserve the million dollar paychecks and golden parachutes. I would love it if a CEO had to do this work for just one day. Then that 7% cut of the bottom line, that costs 100's their jobs might be a little less likely to happen.

[spitgalore]

How can these men breathe all those foul air & smoke? I don't see any respirators? And how about the foundations of these factories?  Thanks for sharing such scary work.

[giangavi]

sono terrorizzato !!!!!!

[markous57]

Those are people earning their pay, no doubt.

[snapywrist]

no she still wear dead people cloths.

[POPEYE903]

Reminds me when I was a Hammer smith at a old local forge. (Long gone now) Started off on a 3000 lbs and worked up to a 12 ton Steam Hammer..

[Bevoin1970]

Awesome !! This is what you call proper mans work !!!

Pussy-footers, Nancy Boys, Keyboard fairies and general Toss-Pots need not apply.

[Valtomotive]

Lots of Huge massive fireballs Wow!! pls post more videos i want to more action!

[stu1300]

the memoreis, i used to work on a 4 ton massey hammer a few yrs ago

[mylyrics]

Awesome video! Thanks for posting.

[alnot01]

This is how I earned my living when I was 21-22 years old. I was a helper, not a forger, on a steam hammer that was a good deal more violent than this air hammer. I pulled 200-300lb billets out of the oven, carried them to the anvil, helped the forger pry the finished forging loose and carry it to the trim press, and operated the trim press. We forged flywheel blanks for Caterpillar, and gear blanks for GE locomotives. Serious accidents were a definite possibility. The plant is now closed.

[PartyAndBS]

i get nervous just watching this video

[Bevoin1970]

You certainly develope a healthy respect for this kind of machinery, They take no prisoners and theres no second chances...

[Titanis2000]

I couldn't have said that better

[MosinDisciple]

What are they making?

[POPEYE903]

they are restriking . thats forgings that where not finish for what ever reason So they are reheaded and put back into the dies to be hammered out to a finish forging Then passed on to a trimmer press

[HotForgeChaos]

OSH wud tear them to pieces

[rchinil]

we used to put grease on the dies when the managers walked by and splatter them with greasy smoke. we worked in a circle heater-trimmer and hammer man. we`d hand the hammer man a hot bar while we were taking the finished forging from his other hand...some guys never figured out how to do that...

[Stingboy316]

This is an awesome video! It's great to get alittle insight into that whole process. Thank you for posting this!

[JOKERX13LA]

shit i forge metals like that but our prosses is much different, is much heavier than that!!

[KFCHambone]

id love to see them put a pig leg in there to see what happens

[phoenix1333]

That looks so fun to do that, what is the job called?

[KholdAxe]

These guys got skill.

This is just large-scale industrial blacksmithing.

[john456ok]

that would suck to get crushed by that hammer. guts would be flying everywhere.

[originalbrownirish]

wear some respirators

[aflacduky]

no crap that cant be good to breath!

[KholdAxe]

pansies....

[aflacduky]

lol

[daveyboyhky]

na it clogs the dies, depending on the shape of the dies. plus it wears the out!

[Josh906]

That must be a very entertaining job for pyros...

[baggieboys58]

sounds like you needed ear plugs plino69 as well i hope you put some video on

[Plino69]

I work at the king of all drop forging shops. LADISH, in Cudahy WI. Our hammers are air driven and range from 4000# all the way up to 50,000# and counter blow hammers from 68,000# to the legendary 85 Hammer which is 160,000# Producing a whopping 2,480,000 horsepower in 1/750th of a second die contact time. I will try and get some good footage. Its amazing :)

[baggieboys58]

nice one zippy

[baggieboys58]

hi zippheels i remember garringtons i used to work at brockhouse forgings hill top west brom in the 80s my ears are stll ringing now i used to work on a 1200 ton coining press i allways wanted to work on the hammers i thought they got all the glory but great times and bloody hard graft health and safety Ha Ha did not exist

[zippyheels]

what ya say i cor ear ya !! lol,

[Valtomotive]

sweet steam hammer! thanks for posting

[zippyheels]

i worked at garringtons in darlaston,west mids, i worked on a 2 ton massey auto in the 70s,and it was graft,sucking in all the smoke,getting covered in burns and we didmt have the protection gear like today,all we had was a sack as an spron & a piece of sack cut out as a hand rag, does anyone remember garringtons ??

[bamwa]

Man I thought my Little Giant hit hard. Whatahammer!

[mactool120890]

I work for stanley mechanics tools, mac tool wrench divison we got 1500, 2000, 2500, and a 3000lb drop hammers one 8 and two 14 dir forgers. its an odd trade we do boys

[takeyourshirtoff]

That looks like Closed Die forging. We have a 8000#, 6000# Chambersberg, 5000# Erie all on air. We use open die and forge 4000# plus parts

[Robkat3751]

are these forges steam powered?

[mikedasgerman]

yes, the way to tell is that they constantly move up and down. Hydrolic and clutch board hammers stay still until you step on the treadle.

[apatientspider]

Could they be air hammers? I've seen air hammers oscillate up and down.

[mikedasgerman]

I dont think air can run an 8000 plus pound hammer but it may be possible possible. I was curious and i checked the web sight and it is a steam hammer.

[BWCKING]

I worked 2 years in a forge 1 on a hammer crew. Went to school, studied hard and got my degree. This heater/trimmer really did listen to the hammerman. 20+ years I still feel the heat, feel the floor and smell the smoke. Stay safe hammerman.

[z1a2p3a]

People like myself forge, I am a hammerman, this industry has not evolved at all, the same drop hammers from the 1920's are used in 2004. we end up deaf with vertebras without any discs left to cushion them due to heavy labor. please study hard, stay and finish your studies, get an education. We do this so you, our children won't have to. Thanks for the video. Earn it!!

[petroljuiceman]

i respect your comments you made about continuing education. But at the end of the day, someone has to do it. Although backbreaking, not everyone has the capacity to study beyond standard schooling, so it will be unfortunate that heavy labour jobs will always be around and people will always be around too.

My dad told me "study until my head drops" and that is exactly what im doing now.

[faybitch]

Don't talk daft, my family have been Blacksmiths since 1854 and not one of us has ended up deaf, put your ear muffs on

[andhija]

I work too. Really hard. I do not think that spending time on your ass at a computer and trying achieve your 20 year old weight in the gym in the evenings is any better than going to bed at night after a hard days work in the blacksmith shop.

[forlackofawittyname]

I'm curious to know what exactly you are forging. And what is sprayed onto the metal while forging. I am also curious exactly why the fireball occurs.. is it because of the amount of flux sprayed onto the piece before the first strike?

[jeremywight]

they spray oil on it to prevent things from sticking together. more oil = bigger explosions :)

[markdinger]

Its stamping oil, the explosion it creates has two purposes one it cleans the forging of surface scale the other to prevent the forging getting stuck in the dies. Sometimes the oil is mixed with sawdust for a bigger explosion.

[EdmundSquid]

Imagine doing that for thirty or forty years!!!!!

[ecom101]

such hard work!!! exciting to watch though...Human Beings are such fascinating creatures.

[mikedasgerman]

My dad was a drop forger until the plant closed in 1986 in Rockport MA at Cape Ann Tool. He was extremely excited to see it again. Please post more video or reply to this message to send me a large video for my dad.

[jeremywight]

this is the only video we've made

[rangrz]

sweet jesus...

[jeremywight]

half way through shows the big fireballs