Surat Asr - Salvation in Islam

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mashaAllah



[jbbshalom1]

22) PROPHESIES ABOUT MUHAMMAD? N.O.T.H.I.N.G. ZIPPO, ZERO, ZILCH, NIL, NONE, NADA, THE BIG "0", NYIT, NOTTINGHAM, EL NUTO, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL!

The Old and New Testament bear Witness of each other! One Predicts the Coming of the MESSIAH and the Other FULFILLS the Old Testament PROPHESIES!!

There is No Room For the Koran or Any Other Book/Message in this PROPHETIC NARRATIVE if that Book/Message Contradicts the Old/New Testament, which the Fatally Flawed Koran Does Time and Again!

[jbbshalom1]

18) MESSIAH will be beaten, mocked, and spat on!-Isaiah 50:6/FULFILLED!-Matthew 26:67/27:26-31! The Gospel According to Isaiah Isaiah 52:13/53:12!-FULFILLED!-Matthe w, Mark, Luke, John! People WILL HEAR and NOT believe the Arm of the LORD (MESSIAH)!-Isaiah 53:1/FULFILLED-John 12:37,38! MESSIAH will be rejected!-Isaiah 53:3/FULFILLED-Matt. 27:20-25/Mark 15:8-14/Luke 23:18-23/John 19:14,15! MESSIAH will be killed!-Isaiah 53:5-9/FULFILLED-Matt. 27:50/Mark 15:37-39/Luke 23:46/John 19:30! MESSIAH

[jbbshalom1]

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And the DAY OF ATONEMENT! These Picture the Seven Years of Tribulation. Atonement Pictures Satan Being Defeated and Cast Away at the End of the Tribulation. If you Add the Two-day TRUMPETS FEAST, and the DAY OF ATONEMENT, the 7 days of AWE are "Ten Days of Tribulation" Which Might Be Referred to in Rev. 2:10! In the Jewish Wedding, the Groom Comes for his Bride "Like a Thief in the Night" to take Her Away and into the Bridal Chamber for the Bridal Week at his FATHER'S

[jbbshalom1]

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"Thus says the LORD GOD: The Gate of the Inner Court that Faces East Shall Be Shut on the Six Working Days; But on the Sabbath Day it Shall Be Opened and on the Day of the New Moon it Shall Be Opened! We are told that the New Moon and the Feasts of the LORD are a Shadow of things to Come in Colossians 2:16-17! Since the FEAST OF TRUMPETS is the Only Feast of the LORD that Falls on a New Moon, We Should Take Particular Note! There are 7 Days of AWE in between the FEAST OF TRUMPETS

[jbbshalom1]

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Expression Referring to this Feast, and Thus, the Rapture! "Of That Day or Hour No Man knows, But My FATHER only" is an Expression used by a Groom When Asked When His Wedding Will Be. He Says This Because it is His FATHER That Will Tell Him When His Preparations on the Bridal Chamber are Completed and it is Time! Again, the Wedding Pictures the Rapture!

The "Open Door" of the Rapture in Matthew 25, and Revelation 3, & Revelation 4:1 is a Symbol of the FEAST OF TRUMPETS! (Ezekiel 46:1)

[jbbshalom1]

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the Rapture. The FEAST OF TRUMPETS is the "Last Trump" of the Rapture of 1st Corinthians 15 is Blown!

The FEAST OF TRUMPETS is known as the Wedding of the MESSIAH, and the CHURCH is the BRIDE OF CHRIST! And the Rapture is when the CHURCH is Caught Up to Heaven to Be Wed With CHRIST!

The FEAST OF TRUMPETS Happens on the "New Moon", which is 29.5 Days After the Last One, Meaning it Might Occur on the 29th or 30th Day, Nobody Knows for Sure. "Of that Day or Hour No Man Knows" is an

[jbbshalom1]

7)

The Final Three Feasts are also known as Rosh HaShanah, FEAST OF TRUMPETS, Yom Kippur FEAST OF ATONEMENT, and Sukkot FEAST OF TABERNACLES!

The FEAST OF TRUMPETS May Soon find its PROPHETIC FULFILLMENT! Here are some Reasons why the Rapture May Occur During this Festival: All the Spring Feasts Were FULFILLED at CHRIST'S first coming, and on the EXACT DAY of the FEAST! All the Fall Feasts Picture the 2nd Advent, and the FEAST OF TRUMPETS is the First of the Fall Feasts, Picturing

[jbbshalom1]

6)

FEAST OF THE TRUMPETS-(Num.29:1)-The Rapture of the CHURCH-(Pending! Are !YOU! Ready?)

FEAST OF ATONEMENT-(Lev.16)-The Second Coming of JESUS CHRIST-(Pending! Ready or Not here HE Comes!)

FEAST OF TABERNACLES-(Deut.16:3)-The Millennial Reign of JESUS CHRIST-(Pending! AND HE SHALL REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER! AMEN!!!)

"FOR ONLY HE IS WORTHY TO RECEIVE PRAISE, AND HONOR, AND GLORY FOR EVER AND EVER!" Rev.5:2,4,9,12/Rev.16:6!!

[jbbshalom1]

5)

considered to be an Interrelated Whole Where PENTECOST is the Completion of the Process Begun at PASSOVER. While the First Four Festivals Occur in Close Proximity, An Entire Season Passes Before the Fall Feasts Begin. This Long Period Represents the Dispensation of Grace that "WE NOW LIVE IN!" The Last Three Feasts, TRUMPETS, ATONEMENT and TABERNACLES, are Celebrated in the Fall Season and ARE YET TO BE "FULFILLED" So They Remain PROPHETIC in Nature!

[jbbshalom1]

4)

In Levi.23 We find that the Festivals of the Lord were Appointed Times Established as Yearly Rehearsals that Taught Both Historically and PROPHETICALLY the Whole Plan of God Concerning the Coming of the MESSIAH and the Redemption of Man. The First Four Feasts have been FULFILLED and the Jewish Community Celebrates them Historically. They are PASSOVER, UNLEAVENED BREAD, FIRST FRUITS, and the FEAST of WEEKS or PENTECOST! These Four Spring Feasts are

[jbbshalom1]

3)

PASSOVER-(Ex.12:3-7)-Death of JESUS CHRIST! HIS PASSION!!-(1Peter 1:18-19 )

FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD-(Ex.12:15)-The Burial of JESUS CHRIST!-(John 19:41)

FEAST OF FIRST FRUITS-( Lev.23:10-11)-The Resurrection of JESUS CHRIST!-(Luke 24:6 )

PENTECOST-(Ex.19)The Descent of the Holy Spirit & the Birth of the CHURCH!!! (BRIDE of JESUS CHRIST the MOST BLESSED SAVIOR OF THE WORLD/MESSIAH)!!!!!!! HOLLA!!! HALELUYAH!!!!-(Acts 2:1-47)

[jbbshalom1]

2)

PROPHECY OF THE SEVEN JEWISH FEASTS

[jbbshalom1]

1) The Old Testament (Taurat) and New Testament (Injeel) are Complete and Need No further Revelations! As Jesus said on the CROSS in John 19:30! He had FULFILLED ALL of the PROPHESIES of HIS 1st Advent, Defeating Death, and Hell!! This is the Very PROOF of GOD! Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the End from the Beginning, and from Ancient Times the things, that are NOT YET DONE, saying, MY Counsel Shall STAND, and I WILL Do ALL MY PLEASURE" This is the Essence of PROPHECY! !!A TRUE PROPHET PROPHESIES!!

[danmu]

and his eyes have the glazed over look of the true believer lol...poor guy

[jbbshalom1]

How can good deeds make up for the breaking of the Ten Commandments? This makes no sense! Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our LORD." If the Law states that someone who savagely raped your daughters, and then tortured then to death, should receive the death penalty, are you going to abrogate the Law and only accept good deeds as Justice! That's great for the criminal but what about you and your family? This is not Just or Right.

[coolguymuslim]

I never said good deeds is enough for salvation. Indeed, our worship does not do justice for the praise due to Allah. Indeed, our repentence is need of repentence in the way we perform it. Our salvation lies in the Mercy of Allah. We acheive this mercy by believing and being righteous (i.e. doing good deeds)...

[jbbshalom1]

Pt. 4 So does this mean that muhammad/islam is Antichrists? After all he said so many good things about Jesus, he just didn't believe Jesus was the Son of God. Then who was Jesus' Father? Was it Joseph? The Bible says it was the overshadowing of the Holy Ghost. Mark 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." Why is it so difficult for muslims to understand this? Matt 13:14. Father I pray you open their eyes.

[coolguymuslim]

I'm sorry, I didn't see all your responses several weeks ago so I apologize again for my delay in responding.

For your question who was the father of jesus, well, couldn't I ask you who was the father and mother of adam? For God, nothing is difficult, He says, "Be" and it is, in this way, Jesus was a word of God, but to say he was the son is wrong. Jesus didn't have a father, like Adam didn't have a mother nor a father.

[jbbshalom1]

1) !WOW! right after YOU say NOTHING is DIFFICULT/IMPOSSIBLE for GOD! YOU IMMEDIATELY tell ME, GOD, and EVERYONE else what GOD can and can't do!! So which is it? If HE wanted to enter into HIS CREATION as a Man, to show MAN how much HE LOVED him enough to go through this life, to REDEEM him because ALL through History HE tried and tried to REACH man who KILLED the REAL PROPHETS and BLINDLY SINFULLY followed the false prophets (like muhammad)! YOU just contradicted "!YOURSELF!" "God, I ?know?

[jbbshalom1]

2) you are capable of ?ANYTHING?...BUUUT!!

A) Coming to Earth in the "Flesh" to Destroy the Sin/Curse in the "Flesh" started by Adam's Disobedience. Because NO MAN (especially men like muhammad, a very, very sinful man) could live or lead us into "YOUR" RIGHTEOUSNESS!

B) Allowing YOURSELF to show ALL MANKIND how YOU LOVE US SO! To be the Perfect Price Paid for OUR sins, by taking YOUR perfect SINLESS BODY and offering it as a Sacrifice ONCE AND FOR ALL MANKIND!

C) DEFEATING SIN/DEATH on the

[jbbshalom1]

3) Cross, Going down into HELL for 3 days and Preaching to the Souls of the Past of YOUR VICTORY over SIN/DEATH (Psalm 16)!

D) Rising Up from the Grave to PROVE your love for us and YOUR Victory over SIN/DEATH

How do you explain the muslims conquering Jerusalem in 638 AD and building that mosque on the Jew's Holy Temple Mount? Why did they do that? Jerusalem has been the Jew's place of Worship for thousands of years! How would muslims like the Jews to build a Synagogue next to the Kaaba!

[jbbshalom1]

Pt.3..the reason Jesus left the Father in heaven to be born of the seed of Women, Gen.3:15 to fulfill hundreds of Prophecies, in order to destroy the power of satan, and to Personally redeem us unto HIMSELF. John 12:32 "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto ME!" Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the SAVIOUR. 1John 2:22 Who is a Liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is Antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son

[coolguymuslim]

Christ literally means the Messiah. Muslims accept Jesus as the Messiah. After all, the Messiah is the title given to Jesus even in the Quran. However to say Jesus is divine is too much. The verses you quote about 'in the way of Jesus' could just as simply be reinterprated to mean follow the way of Jesus, follow his way of life, not worship him...

[jbbshalom1]

1) The Bible tells us that the HOLY GHOST overshadowed Mary, and that Jesus IS the product of the HOLY GHOST! Adam had a soul just like yours and mine. Besides this, the Bible says Jesus was with the Father from the Foundation of the World! John 17:24/Ephesians 1:4/1Peter 1:20/Rev.13:8! So to compare Adam with Jesus is a BAD comparison I think! Adam was a man who lived his life and had only knowledge of a human! The Bible says ABUNDANTLY over and over again Jesus possessed attributes of God in

[jbbshalom1]

2) being able to Forgive Sins, Receive Worship, Judge ALL of mankind. We know that Jews, Christians, and Muslims believe in the Resurrection of the Dead on the Great Day of Judgment. Listen to what Jesus said about it in John 11:25- "'I AM' the resurrection and the 'LIFE': he that believeth in 'ME' though he were DEAD, yet shall he live: and whosever liveth and believeth in me shall NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?" The statements, claims, PROPHECIES, actions of Jesus Christ the Son of God more

[jbbshalom1]

3) than Speak for Themselves! The Bible is MUCH MORE accurate than the quran, and does not have the GROSS ERRORS in the quran. The Bible IS necessary to understand the plan for God's Salvation the quran is NOT! I've already shown you a few Errors in the quran which you 'CHOOSE' to ignore! The quran makes many false claims about the Bible, and what the Church (Bride of Christ Believes)! The quran, in GROSS ERROR states in Sura 5:73-75,116: Christians worshiped 3 gods: the Father, the Mother

[jbbshalom1]

4) (Mary), and the Son (Jesus). Muhammad NEVER correctly understood the Doctrine of the Trinity! There are mistaken concepts of the Trinity in the quran. Yusuf Ali's translation of the quran tries to avoid this ERROR by "DELIBERATELY MISTRANSLATING" this Sura! The Arabic Text condemns those who say that "allah is the 3rd of 3," that is to say allah is only 1 of 3 Gods! Both Arberry and Pickthall translate this correctly. Ali mistranslates (Sura 5:73) to read: They do blaspheme who say: God is 1

[jbbshalom1]

5) of 3 in a Trinity. The words "in a Trinity" are not in the Arabic Text. Yusuf Ali puts it in his translation in an attempt to avoid the rather obvious ERROR that Christians believe in 3 Gods. In reality Christians believe in 1 GOD who is in 3 persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. They DO NOT believe Mary is a part of the Trinity! The quran also makes the mistake of saying Christians believe Jesus is the "Son" of God in the sense that God the "Father" has a male body and had sexual

[jbbshalom1]

6) intercourse with Mary. In muhammad's mind, to say that God had a son was to blaspheme because it meant that God had sex with a woman (Suras 2:116/6:100,101/10:68/16:57/19­:35/23:91/37:149, 157/43:16-19). Christians believe Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived in her by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). Thus, Jesus is the "Son" of God, but NOT in the sexual sense that muhammad once again, and very often misunderstood! God the "Father" is NOT a man and hence does NOT have a male body and has

[jbbshalom1]

7) NOT had sex with anyone. The quran is 100% WRONG in this issue! The quran makes the mistake of teaching muslims, Christians bow in prayer towards Jerusalem (Sura 2:144, 145). Christians do NOT bow toward any place on Earth in prayer, Lost Pagan Idol Worshipers Do! The quran promises a heaven full of wine and free sex (Sura 2:25/4:57/11:23/47:15). If drunkeness and gross immorality is sinful on Earth, how is it right in Paradise?! Is this not more PROOF islam reflects the ideas and customs of

[jbbshalom1]

8) 7th Century Moon Idol ?allah? Worshiping Arabian Culture! If the PROOF of muhammad being a prophet rests in the ERROR RIDDLED quran, then why were Kadijah, Waraq, and others so thoroughly convinced muhammad was a prophet BEFORE the ERROR RIDDLED quran even existed?

Jesus said in John 3:3 "Verily, verily I say unto thee, Except a man be BORN AGAIN, he cannot see the Kingdom of God." So, Have YOU BEEN BORN AGAIN?verses 14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the

[jbbshalom1]

9) Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believith in Him should NOT perish, but have Eternal Life. For God So Loved the World, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosever believeth in Him should NOT perish, but have Everlasting Life. For God sent NOT his Son into the World to condemn the World; but that the World THROUGH HIM might be saved. He that believeth on Him is NOT condemned: but he that believeth NOT is condemned already, because he hath NOT believed in the name of the only

[jbbshalom1]

10) begotten SON OF GOD.

[jbbshalom1]

Pt.2 ..of the Bible, I will not remain silent. John 3:13-18 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God So Loved the World, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have Everlasting Life." This is the

[coolguymuslim]

Is the Bible 100% true? absolutely not, you would have agree that it has been changed over time. the reason i say the quran is only the quran in arabic is b/c that is the only way to preserve it word for word, letter for letter...

[jbbshalom1]

1) Almost 25% of the quran (Antichrist 1John 2:22) "IS" Contradiction AND Repetition! So Many! GROSS ERRORS!! So Little Time to Cover them ALL!

Sura An-Nisa' 4:157 says: "That they (the Jews) said (in boast), 'We KILLED Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God,' but they KILLED HIM NOT, nor crucified Him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of surety, they KILLED HIM NOT."

[jbbshalom1]

2) Whereas HERE we read something TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

Sura Al-Imram 3:55 "Behold! Allah said, O Jesus, I will cause thee to DIE and RAISE thee to myself, and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who disbelieve (in you), even to the day of Resurrection. Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein you dispute."

Here, the quran not only mentions the DEATH of Christ, contradicting the

[jbbshalom1]

3) previous verse, but declares that whoever follows Christ is SUPERIOR to any other person on the Day of Judgment! The quran also mentions the DEATH of Christ in:

Sura Maryam 19:33 "So peace is on me, the day I was born, the day I DIE, and the day that I shall be RAISED up to life (again)."

Here are 2 verses in the quran speaking of the DEATH of Christ, and one verse that says He DID NOT DIE!

Sura As-Sajdah 32:4 "It is Allah who created the heavens and the earth, and all between them,

[jbbshalom1]

4) IN 6 DAYS." IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION WE READ,

Sura Ha Mim Sajdah 41:9 Say, Is it that ye deny him who created the earth IN 2 DAYS? And do ye join equals with him? He is the lord of the Worlds."

The more I read the quran the more I realize just how ignorant and incapable muhammad was in understanding BASIC concepts of the Word of God!! Maybe if he had a BASIC understanding of grammar there wouldn't be ALL of the GRAMMATICAL ERRORS in the quran as well! Which is curious to me because, if this

[jbbshalom1]

5) so called prophet of God received the quran DIRECTLY from ?allah? like the quran says, does this mean that ?allah? is illiterate too? I've shown YOU some of the MANY errors/contradictions in the quran, proving it IS NOT from the God of the Bible but the idol of the the tribe of Quraysh! If Jesus DIED NOT on the CROSS for MANKIND, why does the Bible say ALL "7" Jewish Feasts were SIGNS, and TYPES of the Promised Messiah who would take away the Sin of the World? You can't, so you IGNORE them!

[jbbshalom1]

6) The quran says Mary was the sister of Aaron (Sura 19:28) and her father was Imran (Sura 66:12). WAIT A MINUTE! Aaron and Imran (Amram) were of the Tribe of "LEVI" (Exodus 6:16-20)! Mary was of the Tribe of "JUDAH" (Luke 3:23-38)! What's more, Aaron and Imran lived 1,500 years BEFORE Christ! It would be a LITTLE difficult for those two men to be Mary's father and her brother! Besides the Bible says the father of Mary was Heli (Luke 3:23) and DEFINITELY NOT Imran! DAMNED ILLITERACY!

[Ravencurse]

@jbbshalom1

Great job pointing out just some of the numerous inconsistencies in this false, "copycat" religion.

[coolguymuslim]

why should i use the king james version? is it the best version? why do you say such a weird thing? its from the 16th century, more than a millenium after jesus, why is it better? why do you have so many versions of the bible? we only have one version of the quran, period.....think about it...

[jbbshalom1]

Aren't there at least 8 versions of the quran?

1)Maulana Muhammad Ali 1988 I have this one.

2)Ahmed Ali 2001

3)Muhammad Zafulla Khan 1997

4)N.J. Dawood 1999

5)M.H. Shakir 2001

6)J.M. Rodwell 1993

7)Marmaduke Pickthall 1930

8)Yusu Ali 1938

[coolguymuslim]

These are as I said, translations of the meanings of the Quran. After all these involve human translation from the original arabic and that is why, we use them to benefit for those of us (including myself) who are not fluent in Arabic to udnerstand the Quran, but at the same time, they are the true Quran itself. The actual Quran has only one version. Can you say the same thing about the Bible?

[jbbshalom1]

A) Trans·la·tion:

Function: Noun

Pronunciation:\tran(t)s-ˈlā-sh­ən

Rendering from one language into another, also.

"THE PRODUCT OF SUCH RENDERING"

B) Ver·sion:

Function: Noun

Pronunciation: \ˈvər-zhən

A "TRANSLATION" from another language; especially: a TRANSLATION of the Bible, or a part of it.

A VERSION "IS" A TRANSLATION!

[jbbshalom1]

The reason the King James Version is the Most reliable Translation is because it is based on the Most Accurate Manuscripts called the Textus Receptus!. King James Commissioned the Best Scholars from England to compile these Manuscripts. The Church in Syria had many of these manuscripts that agreed with the gospel and Torah and have proven themselves to this very day! Unlike the quran where it's FULL of ERROR! Even some of its translators tried to cover up the many mistakes in the quran!

[jbbshalom1]

Pt.1I must confess that even though I try to express the Love of Christ in my messages I often fail to convey it to muslims. Perhaps it's because I have so much anger at the outright lies told about muhammad by muslims who try to interject him into the lineage of the Prophets, and the uniquely Jewish history. When I read about how muhammad raped, and kidnapped Women and enslaved Blacks, (I am Black) and never repented, but made it into a false religion with a false god compared to the Loving God

[coolguymuslim]

what are you talking about?  have you even read a biography of the prophet muhammad? he erased racism in the arab world. indeed, my name is bilal and im named after a black companion of the prophet muhammad who was one of the best people in islam, additionally, if muhammad was so bad towards women, why did no1 ever speak out about it after he died? i recommend for you to read an authentic biography of the prophet muhammad before you state such blasphemy....

[jbbshalom1]

Was Bilal a Black slave like all of Muhammad's other Black slaves?

[coolguymuslim]

Bilal was a black slave before Muhammad was a prophet, indeed, after Islam, he was a free man and one of the best companions in the history of islam...

actually, in the arabian world at the time, most of the slaves were not black, u realize...

[jbbshalom1]

So it's blasphemy to speak about muhammad in a critical way? You treat him like a God not a prophet. I've noticed muslims say not to have partners with allah, but you never hear them speak about allah withou mentioning muhammad. If all muhammad is doing is just repeating the Torah/Bible then why do we need him or the quran? Show me exactly where the contradictions are in the Torah/Bible!

[coolguymuslim]

I love Jesus more than I love my family. I love Moses more than I love my family. I love Muhammad more than I love my family. So if anyone speaks ill of them I will get emotional and defend the people I love. If anyone were to talk ill about your mother or father, wouldn't you overreact and defend them? Similarly, I will defend Muhammad and his reputation.

Nevertheless, I wont worship Muhammad, nor will I worship Jesus nor will I worship Moses, but I will still love and honor them.

[jbbshalom1]

In Genesis 1:31 we read God created the Heavens and the Earth in 6 days. And in Genesis 2:1 we read God rested on the 7th day which has been known to the Jews as the Sabbath, and is why it's in the 10 Commandments. The quran states God made the Heavens and Earth in 6 days in Sura 7:49-51, then for some unknown reason it states 8 days in Sura 41:9-12. What does the quran/muhammad say about the Sabbath? Genesis explains the Day of Rest and the promised coming of the Messiah. What about the quran?

[coolguymuslim]

God doesn't rest, God doesn't sleep, God doesn't get tired. He is God. So for us to say He rested, this is blasphemy.

The Jews were correctly assigned the Sabbath, this is known. However, many of them were unfortunately unable to obey in it as told in the Quran in terms of their trial of casting nets for fishing on their day.

[jbbshalom1]

1) Rest

Function: Noun

Pronunciation: rhest

A) Cessation of work, exertion, or activity.

B) Peace, ease, or refreshment resulting from sleep or the cessation (ceasing) of and activity.

C) An interval of silence corresponding to one of the possible time values within a measure.

It shouldn't (but it does) surprise me how you spend so much time saying the Bible is corrupted without ANY PROOF! Where in contrast the quran is FILLED WITH ERRORS! Your pretty slick though! But NOT slick enough for ME!

[jbbshalom1]

2) I ALSO shouldn't be surprised at YOUR blatant dishonesty and deliberate misuse of certain words to PROVE your incorrect conclusions! Whether it's to CHOOSE which application of the word REST, or to use the Corrupted Catholic Apocryphal Book of Barnabas, or digging into the Old Testament to find in the Book of Deut.'s FALSE claims of Moses speaking of muhammad! If, as YOU claim the Bible is "corrupted over time and can't be trusted", then why do YOU keep misquoting it! Anyone with an ounce of

[jbbshalom1]

3) integrity or common sense would know to leave the ?corrupted? Bible alone if it's Poisoned & Untrustworthy! But YOU and muhammad misquote/misinterpret from it ALL THE TIME! WHY? (Rhetorical Question Farley)! You do it in a (shameful to watch) attempt to make the GROSSLY ERROR RIDDLED quran look more reliable than the Bible! Sad! But understandable since YOUR ?allah? says it's OK for him to be a deceiver and to deceive! Suras 4:88/6:39/13:27/14:4/16:93/74:­31! In SHARP contrast, the Bible says

[jbbshalom1]

4) 2Peter 3:9 "The Lord is NOT slack concerning HIS promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, but that ALL should come to REPENTANCE." So much so, HE gave US a Man (ABRAHAM) to produce a People (ISRAEL) to produce a Savior (JESUS CHRIST) to produce a Church (ALL WHO ARE BORN AGAIN BY JESUS' SHED BLOOD)! Muhammad and islam are NOT apart of this Plan of Salvation! They are NOT ONLY Unnecessary! They are Detrimental to Gods Plans!

[jbbshalom1]

5) The Sabbath WAS NOT 'correctly assigned to the JEWS.' The Sabbath was ESTABLISHED in (Gen. 2:3), at the BEGINNING of ALL CREATION!! The FACT that the REAL descendants of the Abrahamic Covenant of Promise (Isaac, Jacob, 12 Tribes) NOT Ishmael, STILL observed it AND kept the Sacrificial Covenant of BLOOD Atonement (Gen. 3:21), up until the Time of JESUS (THE ATONEMENT FOR ALL MANKIND!) is THE clue as to WHO is the TRUE CHILDREN of the TRUE GOD of the Bible! Jehovah God! NOT muhammad's ?allah?

[jbbshalom1]

6) No offense intended, but it never ceases to amaze me how ignorant of the Bible muslims are, and yet THEY still try to quote (actually misquote it like muhammad) it time and time again! Muhammad had so many Bible/Torah Stories DEAD WRONG! So how could muslims NOT BE GRAVELY IGNORANT of the Scriptures, if muhammad was their ONLY interpreter! The Bible says the Holy Spirit will lead us into ALL TRUTH (John 16:13)! NOT muhammad!

[jbbshalom1]

More ERRORS from the quran, a book touted but never proven to be perfect, pure, and without contradictions. Abraham's father's name in Genesis 11:26 is Terah, the quran calls him Azar in Sura 6:74. In Genesis 8:4 Noah's Ark rests on Mt. Ararat. Surah 11:44 claims Noah's Ark rested on Mt. Judi. In Genesis 37:36 the man who bought Joseph was Potiphar, Sura 12:21 says his name was Aziz. Exodus 2:5 says Pharoah's daughter adopted Moses Sura 28:8-9 says it was his wife.The quran misquotes the Bible!

[coolguymuslim]

the quran doesnt misquote the bible, rather it affirms the truths. let me give you an example, the quran mentions hamam as the minister/close companion of the pharoah, but hes someone else completely different in the bible, however, in this century (not before), once we have been able to understand hyroglifics more, who is hamam, indeed he was a minister in the highest court of the pharoah...

[jbbshalom1]

Where can I find proof of Hamam (a Persian) being a Minister in the Highest Court of the Pharoah!

[coolguymuslim]

I sent you the link about Haman via msg. If anyone else wants it, please msg me!

[jbbshalom1]

I just went to that Haman link and it doesn't say what Egyptian time period they found the name or even showed the name just a picture of Egyptian workers on a walled mural. I'll keep up with it though. I've heard a lot of Legend about the Arabs being the descendants of Ishmael, but where's the proof, link?

[coolguymuslim]

Arabs being descendents of Ishmael is accepted even in Judeo-Christian tradition. You can ask your own minister about this.

[jbbshalom1]

Since you like to quote the Gospel of John so much how do you explain John 1:1-14, or how about since muslims deny the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, John 20:27 Then saith he (Jesus) to Thomas,"Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing." And Thomas answered and said unto him, MY LORD AND MY GOD.Also if i were you I wouldn't quote from the corrupted NIV, why don't you use the KJV of the Bible?

[jbbshalom1]

How could muhammad refer to the scriptures (the Bible) so often and get the stories so wrong!!! Illiteracy really sucks. Maybe he should have learned how to read and write so it wouldn't be so easy to deceive him!? If I were you I wouldn't go around quoting those Apocryphal books in the future you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Quoting from those sources is like a Constitutional American quoting from the Communist Manifesto my friend.

[coolguymuslim]

If you are truly interested in learning about the life of Prophet Muhammad, I would encourage you to read an honest life story of him. He was the best example for mankind. If you were to read his biography written by someone without an agenda, you'd recognize that.

[jbbshalom1]

Muhammad was a sinner Sura 40:55/48:1-2, so how can he be ..."the best example for mankind"?

When JESUS knew no sin 2Corinthians 5:21!

Indeed muhammad committed murder! How can someone who took the life of another man be compared to someone who GAVE HIS PERFECT SINLESS LIFE FOR ALL OF SINFUL MAN, INCLUDING muhammad?

[jbbshalom1]

Pt.1 I know I sound harsh but, it's very important to understand the truth about why we are here on Earth. The Bible states very clearly our purpose for existence. So when another belief system comes along and says something different than what has been established as Truth, then that belief system challenges the previous one and they both can't be right and contradict themselves at the same time. I believe the quran contradicts the teachings of the Old and New Testament of the Bible. I believe

[jbbshalom1]

I believe the muslim people have been deceived into believing Islam will provide Salvation. But the Bible says in Hebrews9:22"And almost all things are by the Law purged with blood;and without shedding of blood is not remission" (of sin). From Genesis to Revelation our sins had to be COVERED with sacrifices and then TAKEN AWAY by the Crucifixion, Burial, Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Since the lost muslims don't believe this,how according to Scripture are their sins remitted? Answer,they're not!

[jbbshalom1]

"God" decides what is the price/punishment for sin, not muhammad. Search the scriptures From Genesis 3:21 to Revelation 5:6, and tell me what did God require for the COVERING of sins? Romans 6:23 'For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our LORD.' And tragically since muslims don't believe in Jesus Christ as "God's" payment for their sins. They will face Jesus as their Judge and not their Saviour. And all of those 'good deeds' will not be enough.

[jbbshalom1]

It is so sad how easily people are led astray by false prophets like muhammad. Compare the life of our Saviour Jesus Christ to the life of the false prophet muhammad. Jesus lived a life without sin, 2Cor.5:21. Muhammad's life was full of sin, Sura 48:1-2. Jesus taught us to Love our enemies. muhammad killed his enemies. If we don't shine the Light of Jesus Christ's Love Matt 5:14, (especially to our enemies, who will?) who is the image of the Father John 14:9-10, the World will stay in darkness!

[coolguymuslim]

why do you put a limit on God's mercy?  why must there be a divine sacrifice? why do have original sin? indeed, no soul shall bear the burden of another...its not fair for an innocent child to have to pay for the mistake of others...

[jbbshalom1]

1. The limit to God's mercy is he cannot lie and he stated in and throughout the Bible what the penalty for sin is. And it requires Blood Atonement. Not 'Good Deeds'. I don't make the rules God does.

2. Original sin started with Adam.

3. Animal sacrafices took the place our our death from Adam to Jesus. It's all in the Bible. Check it out sometime.

[coolguymuslim]

But why does an innocent child whose two or three years old start of her life with the weight of original sin on her shoulders. She's surely innocent, right? But then, why would she have to pay for the mistakes of others. Indeed, "no soul shall bear the burden of another"

[jbbshalom1]

1) I see you TOTALLY misunderstand the POWER of SIN Altogether! I shall try to explain it. When Adam disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden he forfeited the Lives of Every Man, Women and Child to be born into this World! God told Adam he would DIE, the Day he disobeyed HIM! When Adam disobeyed, God instead of Killing Adam and Eve, Killed a sacrificial substitute instead! Gen.3:21 This is the beginning of Atonement (Covering of Sins)! BLOOD had to be shed, because the LIFE is in the BLOOD! Lev.17:11

[jbbshalom1]

2) What 'good deeds' or righteous acts could Adam and Eve have done to escape God's Wrath? Why didn't God say to them "just do 'good deeds' and righteous acts to make up for disobeying me"? God told Adam !DEATH! was the price! That's why DEATH is STILL our penaltyt! Not just DEATH in this Life but in the Next also! The 2nd DEATH which is Eternal Damnation! So a 2 year old, eventually MUST DIE! It's not a matter of being "innocent" it's a matter of being a Human Being in this Earth Age that has

[jbbshalom1]

3) the Curse of DEATH IN US and ALL AROUND US! Everything is Dying! This IS NOT how God intended it to be on Earth! There are over 6 Billion people on Earth today, which shows the Magnitude of Gods Grace (unmerited unearned) favor.There's NOTHING WE can DO or GIVE in exchange for LIFE except LIFE itself! 1Corinthians 15:22-"For as in Adam ALL DIE, even so in Christ shall ALL BE MADE ALIVE." Kinda makes you wonder what we need sinful muhammad? NOTHING! OUR LORD Jesus Christ PAID IT ALL IN FULL!!

[jbbshalom1]

4) I hear the SAVIOR say Thy strength indeed is small Child of weakness watch and pray Find in ME thine all in all JESUS paid it ALL ALL to HIM I owe Sin had left a crimson stain HE washed it white as snow! LORD now indeed I find THY power and THINE alone Can change the lepers spots And melt the heart of stone JESUS paid it ALL ALL to HIM I owe Sin had left a crimson stain HE washed it white as snow!

[jbbshalom1]

5) And when before the throne I stand in HIM complete JESUS died my soul to SAVE! My lips shall still repeat JESUS paid it ALL ALL to HIM I owe Sin had left a crimson stain HE washed it white as snow! Sin had left a crimson stain HE washed it white as snow! Oh praise the "!ONE!" who paid MY debt and raised this life up from the dead (x6) JESUS paid it ALL ALL to HIM I owe Sin had left a crimson stain HE washed it white as snow!

[jbbshalom1]

6) Isaiah 1:18- "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though YOUR sins be as Scarlet, they shall be as White as Snow; though they be Red like Crimson, they shall be as Wool."

The Children of Israel HAVE and STILL PROVE they ARE the Children of Promise by Keeping the CONTINUAL Observances of Prophetical Feasts, Sabbaths, and Sacrifices, from Abraham to Jesus! Where is this same History from the so-called Children of Ishmael?! SAYING something is one thing, PROVING it is another!

[jbbshalom1]

I don't mean to seem rude but Muhammad is just another in a long line of unnecessary imposters who tried to come up with another path for salvation. Like Joseph Smith, Charles Russell Taze, The Pope (the biggest imposter of them all), and too many more to mention. Many muslims say the Bible is not a reliable book, that it has been tampered with, but the Quran quotes from the Bible (a lot), not the other way around. So does that make the Quran unreliable as well?

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Hey it's good that the Quran didn't quote:

Ezekiel 23:16-23 (New Int Version)

16 As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17 Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18 When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her nakedness, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister.

[jbbshalom1]

So what's your point. Are you saying there is something wrong with Ezekiel's description of Hezekia's invitation to Babylon?

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

the point is that this passage looks too erotic to be from the Torah, it must have been added from a story. it talks also about size of the penis like donkeys and discharge like horses! why should God tell us this?

[jbbshalom1]

Of course it's not from the Torah!Do you even know the difference between the Books of Moses and the Books of the Greater and Lesser Prophets?Jesus quoted scripture from the Torah and the Prophets, like Isaiah, David, Daniel. These were not in the Torah either. Maybe you should instruct God on what he puts in his Word. And the Quran does mention Ezekiel it calls him Dhu'l-Khifl, does'nt it?Maybe God should never mention Eternal Damnation either. I mean that's a lot worse than animal parts right?

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

so what you mean is that a lesser Prophet brought the erotic passage about size of the penis like donkeys and discharge like horses? plz explain...

[jbbshalom1]

What I mean by Greater and Lesser Prophets is not to lessen the importance of any of the Prophets. The Greater Prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, wrote more than Joel, Amos, Habakkuk, Micah. They wrote less so they are commonly called the lesser Prophets.All of these Prophets have one thing in common, they all preached of the Judgement and need for Salvation of God, who would be manifested in Jesus Christ the Saviour of the World. Jesus quoted/fulfilled Greater and Lesser Prophets!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

this is not really talking abt animal parts, its comparing human penis and discharge with that of animals - the focus is on how men they were - wats the problem with the mention of Eternal Damnation? is that erotic in some way?

[jbbshalom1]

You KNOW the quran is FULL of mistakes, and the Bible is the Miraculous Word of God. Even your own quran says so in Suras 2-13,16,17, and many many more. Muhammad not only quoted (actually misquoted) from the Bible, calling the Bible the Older Revelations being Best. Does this mean that you disagree with Muhammad? He didn't criticize the Bible like you, instead he referred to it time and time again. Why don't you point out the fact that the quran contradicts itself at least 25% of the time?

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Torah, Injeel and Zaboor are three books mentioned in the Quran and they have been revealed to Moses, Jesus and David (peace be upon them) respectively. The Bible is a compilation of religious books which contain some verses of these three books revealed by God. My intention is not to criticize but to make people think objectively. If you are truthful, we can discuss in a fair manner -Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." Quran 2:111

[jbbshalom1]

The Bible is much more than, "...a compilation of religious books..." The Bible is a historical chronology of the history of man's creation, and fall. And shows from Genesis to Revelation God's plan to Redeem fallen man through His Son Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is in every book of the Bible from the Torah to the Prophets to the New Testament. The quran is just another religious book. A jumbled and confused ordering of individual Suras. An unnecessary collection of inferior/inaccurate ramblings!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

John 5:30 (New International Version)

30By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

---the nature of Jesus was discussed and 'decided' hundreds of years after he's gone! How can God be the same as his son? I'm sure you understand this. If both are the same, then why Jesus said he can do nothing? The quran is a message from God, not a history, law or science book written by man.

[jbbshalom1]

While Jesus was here he was in the flesh and had to keep the Law.He was the only one in the History of Man to keep the Law.Not even muhammad was able to do that!In the Law of Moses a man could not testify of himself without the witness of another.Since Jesus was with the Father from the Creation of the World only God could be his witness. He was showing us how we should live here on Earth while in the Flesh.Totally in submission to the Word/Will of the Father!! He did nothing without the Father!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Quran 3:45 Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah; 3:46 "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous--

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

These verses are straight to the point, clear and without any confusion whatsoever. The arabic version is much much better - it is a linguistic miracle from God through someone who never read nor write

[jbbshalom1]

John 10:30 "I and my Father are One" You asking how can Jesus and the Father be one is like asking how can God create the heavens and earth with just spoken words.Can you explain that?Muslims have been seduced with an arrogant spirit of deception. On one hand they say they have faith in the Word then when it says something they don't like they reject it. Jesus' claim of Oneness with the Father is SPIRITUAL. Jesus in His Holy Spirit existed with the Father from before the foundation of the World!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

We believe that Jesus is a spirit sent by God. He existed before the foundation of the World--i dont have any problem with this statement. He is one with God mean whatever he did is in accordance to God's will. This is in accordance to John 5:30 because it says Jesus can do nothing except what he is commanded, it is complete submission to God. This is why our religion is called Islam meaning submission to God. Jesus is a muslim i.e someone who submits to God.

[jbbshalom1]

Pt 1 How can you say the nature of Jesus was decided hundreds of years afterward. The gospels of Mathew, Mark, John, Peter are from his own disciples!!! They were with him and saw/heard everything he did!! Jesus is the only person in History to ever live w/out breaking any Commandments of the Law. Muhammad broke every Commandment of the Law of Moses, and them some!! In the Law of Moses a man's word had to be established with at least one witness.Since Jesus was with the Father from Eternity!!!

[jbbshalom1]

Pt 2 John 17:24 "Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, be where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou has given me: for thou lovedst me before the Foundation of the World." Jesus' life (not muhammad's) is 'THE' perfect example of how to live!! Matt 4:4 ...It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. John 14:6 "I am the Way the Truth and the Life no man cometh unto the Father but by Me." Sorry muhammad!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

First thing: not all gospels are accepted, so there are various accounts of the same event. there is a lot in common but still different in many ways.Secondly, read the bible and see what Jesus said about his nature. Did he say he is God? Did he say worship me? Look:--John 11:41 (King James Version)

Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.-->his prayers heard by God!!!

[jbbshalom1]

Pt.1Just the ones you like right? Typical! Matt. 2:2/2:11/8:2/9:18/14:33/15:25. All of these people+many more worshiped Jesus, and he or his disciples NEVER stopped them! Why? He never had to say 'worship me' they just worshiped him on their own accord! And after his Resurrection, at the end of the Sabbath (1 of the 10 Commandments that muslims ignore to instead celebrate pagan moon god days like Ramadan) which John witnessed first hand!! 28:9/28:17-20. You have the same spirit of disbelief the

[jbbshalom1]

Pt.2 as the High Priest in Matt.26:63-65. Why didn't Jesus say 'I am a Prophet'? But you lost muslims and muhammad called him one?! Why was it the meek and lowly recognized him, and the proud and arrogant didn't? This is the Spirit of Islam! Proud and Arrogant, FULL of Error and SIN about God's Word, and refuses to admit it. They deny the Scriptural Death, Burial, and Resurrection of the Son of God because if they admitted it, they would have to also admit muhammad was/is a false lying prophet!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Quran 3:49 "And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah's leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah's leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;

[jbbshalom1]

1st of all you just quoted from the Apocryphal books of Mary and the Infant. You like muhammad still don't realize that those books were rejected from the KJV 1611, for being filled with ERROR.You're right muhammad was illiterate, so his understanding of the Bible came not from the Scriptures, but from what he heard from people who were not authorities on the Bible.That's so sad that after 1400 years of misquoting the Bible you STILL don't realize this!!!Muhammad got so many Bible stories wrong!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Many more gospels were rejected. Look at your KJV:

John 5:30 (King James Version) 30I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

-----> How can Jesus = Father?? Please follow your own script at least!!

[jbbshalom1]

Clinging to John 5:30 is like a guy going to a party and only doing 1 dance all night! Why don't you read what else John says about Jesus Christ the SON of the Most High God and SAVIOUR of the World! 1John 1:14. Is it because muslims would then be forced to admit the other facts they deny about Jesus! Like he came into the World to be Crucified, Buried, and Raised on the 3rd day! John 2:19-21,John 19:16-19.Why do muslims quote 1 verse from John but ignore the rest? Selective reading is my guess!

[coolguymuslim]

you still havent been able to point out even one error in the quran, the only ones u point out seem to conflict with the bible, but if the bible isnt 100% truth, whose to say those are errors in the quran instead of the bible?

[jbbshalom1]

In Genesis1:31we read God created the Heaven and the Earth in 6 days.The quran in Sura7:49-51 states 6 days and then in Sura 41:9-12 it states 8 days Why?And what is a good commentary on muhammad?It just seems like your either going to read one from someone who either likes or dislikes muhammad/islam.But I don't think Jeremiah 8:8 is saying the Bible is corrupted, I think it's saying the scribes just like in Jesus' day didn't honor the Law of Moses.Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!

[jbbshalom1]

Jehovah God said HE would protect HIS Word The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand forever.Isaiah 40:8. My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone our of my lips.Psalm 89:34. Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my Words shall not pass away.Matt.24:35. For verily I say unto you, Till Heaven and Earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Law, till all be fulfilled Matt.5:8. So of course God is able to protect His Word!

[coolguymuslim]

The Quran doesn't quote from the Bible. The Bible is corrupt and has been changed over time. There may be some overlap, but the Bible is not 100% true, wouldn't you agree with that? I can say with confidence that the Quran is 100% true...

[jbbshalom1]

Of course the quran quotes from the Bible!!! All the time it says the people of the book. What book? (The Bible). The quran doesn't even quote the stories right!!! Gen. 7, the Bible says Noah and his sons were saved from the flood. Sura 11:43 says one of Noah's sons drowned Where did the quran get the Biblical stories from then? The quran is corrupted not the Bible me friend. The early Muslims tried to convince the Jews to follow Muhammad. The Jews knew from the start Muhammad was no Prophet!!!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Surah 11:45- And Noah called upon his Lord, and said: "O my Lord! surely my son is of my family! and Thy promise is true, and Thou art the justest of Judges!"

11:46 He said: "O Noah! He is not of thy family: For his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which thou hast no knowledge! I give thee counsel, lest thou act like the ignorant!"

--->God save all Noah's family but his biological son was not considered as part of the family

[jbbshalom1]

Where did muhammad/quran get their information from? Which of Noah's sons perished? I challenge you to show me what book, chapter, verse that story about Noah was taken from. Since the Flood of Noah happened thousands of years before the quran was even thought of, where did muhammad get is information? If muhammad's inspiration came from the Bible, then why don't you quote from the original source? Maybe because that version isn't in the original text, just like many other stories he made it up!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Muhammad (pbuh) did not write or read anything. He received all information from God through inspiration. Note that the Quran was revealed completely in 23 yrs, there was no correction or deleting anything.Our Prophet (pbuh) was never educated by any human and he never read a book. A book was reveald to him with news from the past and future, facts about nature. there is no two versions of this book even between muslim groups who disagree. It is a guidance for mankind and there is no doubt in it

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

The Prophethood of Muhammad (pbuh) was confirmed by many Jews & Christians who knew their books. They were infact waiting for him. Jesus was circumcized but Christians are not. We muslims are. You eat pork, this is against the Bible. We dont eat it. Wherever Christians have settled, their generations are more in lost. Look at the US, Europe, even eastern europe- they invented marriage of homosexuals,popularize porn,capitalism.Even your priests do not spare innocent children

[jbbshalom1]

The question is was he 'confirmed' by God! Not man! Hitler was 'confirmed' by christians, and jews to remember? Your broad and inaccurate generalization of christians is par for the muslim course. Did you know some christians don't eat meat at all? Does this make them more pius than muslims who still kill and eat animals? Christians do get circumcized. If US is so bad, why do so many Muslims run here for freedoms they can't get in Muslim Countries? Americans don't go there Muslims come here!!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Christians who do not eat pork and are circumcized are just a handful and you know it. I live in a Western country and the only reason why I'm here is for work, thats it. The Western countries are organized and advance technologically. This is the same for Egypt of Pharoah. They were advanced- look at the Pyramids! But if you sin, you will be drowned because no one can save from God if he is angry with you. Take the recession as a warning!

[jbbshalom1]

I'm not a christian I told you! And America IS the most wicked nation on Earth! It enslaved my people for 245 years and then for 100 more years subjected them to brainwashing, terror, torture, experiments, forced breeding,and whatever else came into their wicked imagination! But the wicked muslims did the same thing to Africans 700 years before the Europeans got in on the slave trade! Muhammad(No Peace Be Upon Him)in the Hadiths calls Blacks 'raisin heads' and even owned a bunch of Black slaves.

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Volume 1, Book 11, Number 662:Narrated Anas:The Prophet said, Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head looks like a raisin were made your chief. -- In hadith it is usual to see description of human features but it is not to lower these people. In a hadith e.g the Prophet (PBUH) talks about a nation whose face a flat like shield -- again this is not to mock but simply a description. Also read well- He told us to OBEY a black chief- is that racism?

[jbbshalom1]

In hadith vol.6 #435 We read,.and a black slave of Allah's Apostle was(sitting)on the first step. I said to him,'Say (to the Prophet )'Umar bin Al-Khattab is here.'

In hadith vol.9 #163 We read,.The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling in Mahai'a. I interpreted that as (a symbol of) epidemic of Medina being transferred to Mahai'a, namely, Al-Juhfa." What a stark contrast to Jesus who had no slavesbut came to set the captives free!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Freeing slaves is a good action. To free a slave you have to pay the master money to set the slave free. He preached this - check the hadiths

[jbbshalom1]

What about all of the muslim slavers from the 700's to the 1500's who captured Blacks in subsaharan Africa Now called Cameroon, Nigeria,Benin,Togo,Ghana,and Burkina Faso, by equipping the northernmost tribes of the Hausas, Fulanis, Kolofs, and took them to N. Africa, Europe, and the Middle East to be sold into perpetual slavery! The quran itself was on the side of slavers because muhammad was a slaver!They shouldn't have enslaved these people in the 1st place! I'd rather use Jesus as my example!

[coolguymuslim]

You realize many of the slaves brought to the Americas during the slave trade were Muslims and they were brought over by practicing righteous white christian men right?

In terms of slavery in Islam, even during the time of the Prophet, many of the slaves were not black, race had nothing to do with slavery back then. Indeed, no one from a particular race is better than another race except in piety. If you look at the Quran, it mentions the story of the wise man, Luqman, a black African

[jbbshalom1]

Have you read Matt.15:11? or maybe Acts 11:7. I don't believe we should be eating pork or any animal products whatsoever! Like the 7th Day Adventists. They keep the Sabbath and don't eat any meat! It's not religious it's common sense health. No plant based food has cholesterol. We only get it and other animal ailments from ingesting animal products. Studies have been conducted showing if you keep you cholesterol below 155 your almost heart attack proof!. Vegetarians' cholesterol is around 130.

[jbbshalom1]

Which of Noah's biological sons was not considered apart of his family?This sounds like a hint of White Supremacy in Arab thinking. No wonder muhammad and his successors had no problem going into Africa and enslaving and saying all of those evil racist things about MY people just because WE'RE Black!!What in the World kind of murdering, enslaving, raping, stealing, kidnapping, lying, pedophile, prophet is this muhammad? How dare anyone even mention him in the same sentence as the real Prophets!!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

i dont know which son was not considered part of the family. Our Prophet (pbuh) said no arab is superior than a non arab, no person is better than another except in fear of God. So someone fears God more, is superior to another who has less fear of God;color, race,family,money is not a factor. Now if you see muslims not obeying this, then they are wrong rather than Islam.I do see the Western culture much more racist than some muslims.

[jbbshalom1]

Noah only had 3 sons,Shem Ham, and, Japheth. All 3 survived the flood, that's why the Bible says these 8 souls repopulated the World. You starting to see the problem here? If Ham drowned, where did the Canaanites, Mizraim (Egypt) Cush (Ethiopia), come from? If Japheth drowned, where did Gomer, (Europe) Magog (Asia) etc. come from? If Shem drowned, where did the Semites come from? Superiority is not the question here, it's origins. Biblical accuracy verses constant perpetual quranic error!

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

It is not said that 8 souls repopulated the earth in Quran. So I cannot comment on this. It just says that one son drowned.

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Judge yourself the generations of Christians- what are they now? they have turned the world upside down! Look at the fruits - judge yourself.

[jbbshalom1]

First of all you need to know that word 'christian'. It was only used 3 times in the Bible. I don't call myself christian, I just believe the Bible. You don't need a title or a name to live/tell the truth, that's what weak minded followers do. Is Osama bin Laden a good muslim? Do you live here in the U.S. or one of those muslim countries that doesn't give you the freedom to criticize islam? If it wasn't for the 'West' Iran, Iraq, and Arabia would still be using their Oil to bathe in!

[coolguymuslim]

I made a video entitled, Islam & Terrorism, I hope you will watch it to get a better understanding of where Islam stands towards these freedoms you discuss. Indeed if you look at history for when the Christians conquered Spain from the Muslims in the 1400s, the Jews fled Spain since they were being massacred and they lived in harmony in Muslims lands in Morocco.

[jbbshalom1]

Eph. 2:8-9,For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. James2:17-18,Even so faith,if it hath not works is dead, being alone. Yea a man may say, Thou has faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Believers in Christ have faith in God through Jesus, and their works (actions) are the proof of their faith. They don't do good works to earn salvation

[NeCliquePasSurMoi]

yes they do, the actions are proof of their faith in being rewarded for good works and punished for bad works, thusly it is stil to earn salvation, avoiding bad works and performing good works

peace

[jbbshalom1]

There is no way for a person to do enough good works to EARN salvation. Works are of the flesh and can't earn any spiritual salvation. It's believe in God through Jesus alone. Not the Quran, Not Muhammad, Not Buddha, or anyone else. Christ HIMSELF became the Way the Truth and the Life. '...Noone cometh unto the Father but by me." John 14:6. "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags."Isaiah 64:6. Muhammad is an obstacle to salvation not a path to it.

[coolguymuslim]

I agree with you that no one can do enough good works to earn salvation from themselves. However, the truth is that salvation is attained through God's Mercy, not in the form of God dying or sending someone else to Earth to take the blame for us...

[jbbshalom1]

Be it known unto you all, and to all people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the Stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head cornerstone. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven amoung men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:10-12.

[jbbshalom1]

From Genesis to Revelation the plan of Salvation has been laid out that God wanted a Perfect Sacrafice, (Lamb without Blemish) as a Sin offering to satisfy God's requirement for COVERING Israel's sins. This has always been a type, a forshadowing of the coming Christ who would be the Lamb of God who TAKETH AWAY the Sin of the World. John 1:29. That's why Jesus told the Jews, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which tesify of me." John 5:39.

[jbbshalom1]

So if your analogy is accurate an Atheist can enter into Paradise (Heaven) if he does enough "Good Works"? Good works prove nothing, they are just physical acts whos motives are unknown. Some people think that blowing themselves up is a one way ticket into Paradise (Heaven). Where in the Bible does Mass Murder=Martyrdom? A Murderer is Murderer and a Martyr is a Martyr!! Stephen in the Book of Acts 22:20. was a Martyr not a Murderer. So let's stop saying a Murderer and a Martyr are equal.

[AAAjMMMiRRR]

Cont... (gets more interesting..Ezekiel 23:19-)

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled. [a]

[jbbshalom1]

Ufortunately what you're doing is typical Muslim behavior. When someone shows you some of the many contradictions and GROSSS ERRORS in the quran you don't know how to accept that the quran is FULL of ERROR!!! I'll give you just a few more of MANY!! Genesis 1:31 says God created the World in 6 days. The quran in Sura 41:9-12 says 8 days. In Suras 7:49-51/10:3 it says 6 days. Well, which is it? Even the crafty commentators/appologists of the quran can't cover up these blatant contradictions!!

[leilanader]

mashallah my brother