Ted Haggard cons Oprah

[ozcolas]

Ted may or may not be truly contrite about his past sins, but none of us can know, let alone judge. Certainly not those of you who embrace sin and feel like they're well positioned to judge those who struggle with sin.

[megamus3]

see how easily lies comes out of his mouth truly he is a man of god.

[rpaslux]

I don't want to seem judgemental on people's faces, but ...

Ted Haggards' (face) really seems ( IMO ) to be somewhat dubious ( that induces doubt and distrust ... to some extent ).

Sometimes people can tell other people's intentions by the "facial presence" [Something more than mere facial expressions.]

At least that's what my judgement and perception of the world based on what I experienced tells me.

[azmildman]

The man is just a man and that pisses people off because they think Christians are perfect and divine and full of God. This shows what they are full of. Imagine, no heaven, no hell, no sin, just you knowing you have to be compassionate towards other people without need for being threatened with eternal damnation, there, now you are no longer an Abrahamic religion follower.

[idontownthis1]

Meth smoking, whore mongering cock-sucker

LMFAO

[thegoochieguy]

in 2005, even the christovangelist world exalted its gay talent.

ted is a liar, i feel so sorry for his kids.

[wolfhalen]

the difference between psychosis and religion

-religion is protected by law

[adalbertomodesusa]

This man sinned against God and did something really bad. Friends, this is LIFE. The most influencial men in the Bible sinned too.King David was one of them. The difference is that the Lord Jesus is there for us! the most beautiful thing that can happen to us is be forgiven! This is NOT religion, it is a relantionship with the Creator of the Universe! Mr. Haggard fell, but but by the grace of God he's been forgiven! Jesus is the Lord!

[danettey]

He did admit it. so get a life.....

[2thes213]

Yeah, I would submit, if you are the lover of philosophy and science that you claim to be you must be a lier. You simply can't study science and philosophy in 2009 be truthful with the facts and come to the conclusion that God is not real. Now you can parrot what others say, not really study for your self and think you sound smart, but in the end, yes, the burden of proof will be on you. You're not being honest with yourself, youtube dorks aside, seek truth, not your next ad hominem arguement

[PleasePonderThis]

2thes213, please define what you mean by god. If you mean some force in the universe, then who knows, you could be right. But if you mean the nonsensical gods described in the Bible and Koran then you are wrong. Science refutes such gods. The universe is 14 billion years old, not 6,000 years old! Evolution is real. Nothing fails like prayer. Please read some science books.

[Shaunthesushi]

who says the earth is just 6000 years old?

did u actually count it? referring to bible?

[fashionhistorylover]

@PleasePonderThis He had a relapse and he has been cured of gayness. What can he do except for apologize?

[Disparation]

The burden of proof is on those who make a claim. There is no evidence to suggest that a God exists - if there was, it wouldn't be called faith.

[PleasePonderThis]

2thes213, you have it backwards. You can not be a scientist in 2009 and believe in that the world is 6,000 years old. The evidence for a 14 billion year old universe is overwhelming. Biology, biochemistry, paleontology, molecular biology, and genetics all confirm that the true age of our planet. The truth is that the Bible is a collection of ancient nonsense. All of my scientist friends agree with this. Of course, you are free to believe whatever you want.

[axollot]

I think it's fair to say that only a small portion of world Christians believe in the 6000 yr old earth myth. Catholics certainly do not teach that at all! (not that they havent had issues with science in the past, however on the 'how old is the earth exactly' they're in 2009). Those folks are only a small % of world wide christians that take and teach KJV bible Gen should be taken literal. Wacky fringe only.

[huzanaaier]

@2thes213 what do you know about the facts? Are you a particularly smart person? Are you particularly perceptive at discerning truth from large amounts of data? Is this a skill you have that from seeing all the data you have concluded that God must be real? Or are you also just "parrot"ing what some pastor has told you? The smartest people in the world are 99% not Christian and of the 1% that are they are NOT evangelical.

If God exists he is NOT the biblical one!

[PleasePonderThis]

Haggard: " I'd preach in my church about nasty fags and evil drugs! Then I'd go out and have gay sex and use crystal meth. LOL! But, hey, we're all sinners. And best of all, I'm SAVED! So I'm gonna live forever! "

[2thes213]

Whats to ponder. You are lost in sin just as Ted. Funny thing about deception... It's really deceiving. It's not just something the bible talks about, it's another proof that the bible is the word of God. The bible also talks about false prophets and degenarate mockers like you. Ponder this. You will stand before God and give an account for all you have done and without the Blood of Jesus to cover your sin, you will find what you believe, it not true. Believe it or not.....

[PleasePonderThis]

2thes213 please tell me you don't really believe all that ancient nonsense about burning in hell if you pick the wrong god! Friend, a billion Muslims are quite sure that YOU will burn in hell. But don't worry, they are just as wrong as you are. The Bible and the Koran are both ancient fairy tales. Have you actually read your Bible?  Talking snakes? LOL! Please read some science and philosophy books. Wake up. This is 2009, not 1009.

[2thes213]

Friend, You can't tell me you have read and honestly studied both the Koran And the BIble. You wouldn't even bring them both into this same debate if you had. They are worlds apart. Of course that won't matter to a humanist who has bought lie that "he" is in controle of his own destiny. Please whether you believe in truth or not, it is true and it is the same for everyone. Science proves it and confirms it. what dope are you smoking, stop believing what feels good and seek truth.

[Azurju]

Soooooo WELL SAID! PleasePonderThis, you sound as fed up as I do with people using their outdated superstions, lies and fairytale books like the bible and koran to judge and discriminate against others.

[rpaslux]

@PleasePonderThis

Use the "some gods are dead because the cultures that created them -- or, if religious folk prefer, the cultures they the gods created -- are also dead" argument. Bait for trolling, but who cares ?! Have fun. Life is short.

There are \ were thousands of other gods among many other cultures.

Any one god among those could be the right one. "Gotta believe them all" ( using a pun on pokemon's " gotta catch them all" ).

[BohemianBlasphemy]

"You will stand before God and give an account for all you have done and without the Blood of Jesus to cover your sin"

Cool. Can you prove any of those statements?

[2thes213]

Oh, yes, Let me guess you are far more educated that I. You have searched the universe and Know that God is a fairytale. Well unfortunitly for you the blame will not be mine for not proving that God is real. The burden of proof iso nt in my lap. You can rely on your own feelings. Thats ok. As for science, I believe very much in science, now if you did, you would have to come to the conclusion that God is real. You must just believe in science that "proves" what you believe. Good luck.

[BohemianBlasphemy]

What?

Are you drunk of just insane?

You made a positive claim, and the burden of proof is on ME?

--

"You have searched the universe and Know that God is a fairytale"

Well, no. I have not searched the entire universe.

Do you believe in pink flying unicorns?

[TheNondiscriminatory]

@2thes213 HOW EXACTLY DOES THAT PROVE THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD? sorry, caps lock on there. you jump from deception to saying the bible is the word of god. funny... the bible is not the only source of readings that talk about deception... "the god delusion"..."god is not great"..."the end of faith"..."quantum"..."the believing brain"..."loose canon"... hmmm. fucking god loving idiots- i hope i will live long enough to see the plague of religion rid from this world...im 19, and fear i wont.

[dborg321]

@2thes213 You poor sad man. In a sense I feel sorry for you (And others like you). People could slap you in the face with the evidence, and you will always deny it. You are too far gone to even look outside your Chrisitan world. Even when events like Ted Haggard happen, you will have some Chrisitans still following him, so it doesn't mattter what is said to people like you. If you want to believe it I don't care - just don't preach that shit to kids, as enough people have been deluded with it.

[sandroeleven]

How sad religion causes people to deny who they are. Ted will always be gay but may never be able to admit is b/c of his friend in the sky....shame

[abantoniabanks]

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you're an idiot

[nickorization]

Religion will bring the end of human kind.

[mkhl33]

.....oh by the way the new life people obsess about issues like 'evolution', school prayers, masturbation, SEX....especially homosexuals and lesbians ...what about hermaphrodites ? i suppose the issue of world hunger, environmental degadation, poverty are rather unimportant issues for this kind of people .....?

[mkhl33]

Suffice to say that a person is homosexual if he is attracted to another of the same sex and derives deep psychic and psychological satisfaction from sex with person of the same gender.There is some hardwiring involved. To try to use selected scriptures to justify hate for homosexuals is like trying to use the bible to teach algebra or quantum physics

[retrorio]

TribeofShabbazz, your comments are ridiculous: 'The reason it is so hard for 1 to stop being gay is b/c unlike other sins, it is unnatural." That doesn't even make sense! Obviously, you jump from one ridiculous belief system to another, not realizing they are all man-made myths. If you really profess to believe the Bible, why don't you learn the phrase, "Judge not, that you be not judged". Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, so I guess it wasn't very important.

[PleasePonderThis]

Haggard: "I liked to preach in my church that the Bible says homosexuals are an abomination. Nasty fags! Then I'd go out and have gay sex while using crystal meth. LOL! Gay sex is a blast! But, hey, we're all sinners. And best of all, I'm SAVED! So I'm gonna live forever with sweet Jesus and all my Christian friends. Hey, can you have gay sex in heaven? Any drugs up there? Anyway, all you non-Christians are gonna burn in Hell! It's great to be a Christian! "

[retrorio]

Haggard: "Forgive me, Lord, for I have tea-bagged".

[PleasePonderThis]

Miuzefreak, you are right, of course. But Haggard cannot do the right thing. His religion precludes it. Evangelicals teach that it is an abomination to be gay. How can he just come out now and say, "I'm gay but god now says gay sex is great. God also told me he made a big mistake when he wrote in the Bible that gays must be killed." Haggard's flock would say he is crazy. They have been brainwashed against gays. This will not be easy to change.

[SkIttle2The0]

standard issue sky pixie worshiper behavior

[miuzefreak]

It s sad that Haggard is not living his own truth that s all ... he is gay and refuses to live his one and only life ... why go through all this trouble and then go back in the closet again ... and still have desires for men !?!? That s the wakeup call he should have had : "I m gay and I should live my life" ... not "I m gay but I have to ignore this ... again ... and again ... and again ..."

[lhd2000babyblue]

Everyone needs to give the guy a break! No one's perfect & it's none of our business. People aren't weak or dumb 4 believing in a higher power or falling from "grace." It takes a lot of courage to get up after a public fall. Shouldn't the world be more open minded of religious views, maybe it isn't for u, but God/Jesus has helped many people. Mayb u should c what it's all about before placing judgement on it. I mean aren't u just as ignorant if u believe everything the media tells u, lol.

[dwolfcoach]

You can't be serious. It takes a lot of courage to get up after a public fall? Please, he got CAUGHT with a gay hooker, purchasing meth. Courageous would be admitting your real feelings to a flock of bigots, that find what 2 consenting adults do with their clothes off a moral weakness, that you're sorry, but this is who you are. Now that would be courageous. I would give all of you a "break" if you weren't so busy protecting the institution of marriage by excluding people for who they love.

[obamadidit2008]

how dumb can a bible-thumper be P.P.T. why do you think falwell,robertson,et al are still on tv and radio

[PleasePonderThis]

Don't worry. Haggard is SAVED. He and all Christians will live for ever and ever in glorious heaven with Jesus and lots of little angels and cherubs. Can people really be this dumb? I mean really?

[2thes213]

Please Ponder this. is this what you want us to ponder. Your uneducated rambling? Let me guess, you and all your friends believe that the world just morphed out of nothing. Talk about a fairy tale. You should do your own homework and not get your information from bumper stickers.

[Epistememalks]

Evolution is a proven fact, and if seeing is believing then it's as easy as enjoying the the beautity of nature; how all the plants and animals around us have divided into different species, colours, shapes, sizes etc.. And of course with the evidence evolution had to have occurred over a very very long time. That said: just because this theory is proven as well as

[Shaunthesushi]

If evolution occurs over million of years, why human suddenly achieve to a high supreme level in just thousands of years?

There are no computers, there are no brick houses thousands of years ago, why after millions of years, and in short thousands of years, human can suddenly be so advance?

[Epistememalks]

Um.. because we're awesome?

[ptm5150]

Your response must be the proof because it was awesome. Maybe someone should ask him, If we have "achieved to a high supreme level in just thousands of years," why can't you write a basic sentence?"

[Epistememalks]

LOLZZZZZ!!

[Tyler7692]

There are many things in the universe exponential in nature. Knowledge can be exponentially gained. Look at the amazing technological achievements in the past 100 years alone, and imagine all the things we will be able to do in the next 100.

[Epistememalks]

most "science vs religion" controversial theories, it doesn't mean that God doesn't exist, nor does it mean that man wasn't originally placed/created on Earth from a higher power.

[flavho]

What a piece of crap this servant of GOD is. He is trying to revive his career again, by lying and hiding behind his religion. This is what happens when ignorant people put their faith in a so called 'man of god'.

[papatoony]

Don't forget his new HBO special!