March to the Alma 1854

[ivanjacobs100]

I am amused

[WTFBBQ5]

We`re coming to get you. ;)

[axelfalk1]

jolly good!

[hoosieryank1967]

I don't think it's upside-down; this was a Brit production and while we Yanks might have botched that, I don't think they would have.

[oldwarrant4]

I looked at it twice and it looks like the Union Flag is right side up. It's hard to tell with it flapping in the breeze like that but the Cross of St. Patrick is upward in the 2nd quarter.

[hapag16]

......how many more times will Hollywood directors fly the Union Flag upside down.....that really infuriates me! The military advisors for this film should have their pay docked - bunch of Boy Scouts (actually if they had been Boy Scouts they would have got it right as there likely is a badge for that). Harumph!

[meconicuk]

@hapag16

Had another look at the clip and I honestly can't tell if the flag's upside down or not.

If it is, then well spotted.

I believe one of the Mollo brothers acted as a military advisor; so I'm surprised he never noticed this glaring error.

Maybe it was the Turkish film extras idea of a joke ?

Mac.

[oarfrost]

@meconicuk "Had another look at the clip and I honestly can't tell if the flag's upside down or not."

Me neither. I spent 8 years at sea and whoever decided that flying the flag upside down as a distress signal probably had a hand in deciding how many lifeboats the Titanic needed.

[lonestar2779]

@oarfrost lol

[woodenz]

@888explorer yeah right .......lol

[MrKingtiger007]

lions lead by donkeys

[meconicuk]

@MrKingtiger007

Lions led by Donkeys ON BOTH SIDES.

[dizzhonest]

1:23 - Humpty dumpty on a war service

[TheXPEHBAM]

@888explorer come down, dura4ok. russia provs itselfes at a hole of archaic combat tactics and support of troops and everything else... this war leads to the only conclusion, that was needed: reformation and modernisation at all costs! This battle of sinope was fought against turkish ships. and turkey was even more behind than russia.

[888explorer]

Of course WW2 it's the brightest page of russian military history! I meant great NAVY victory,which was achieved during this war! It's great too!!!

[meconicuk]

@888explorer

I'd have thought halting the Nazis at Moscow and Stalingrad would be of

far greater importance to a Russian ?

[vidman163]

@meconicuk: Moscow, St.Petersburg, Kursk, Stalingrad.

[DiscothecaImperialis]

this war almost introduce steampunk technologies into reality.

i've heard that this was the first time steam powered tractors are deployed to tow field guns.

[meconicuk]

@ALDERMANOFFOUNTALL

Thanks for the information.

I'll have to read up on him.

[BasilFawlty4444]

Crimea - Britain's Vietnam....

And in almost every shape and form. Like Nam, dragged in by France and overall about as pointless as a chocolate teapot.

[lurcherlongdog]

@BasilFawlty4444 What if people like chocolatey tea?

[balderdashandpiffle]

@BasilFawlty4444 The war was fought to protect Turkey and to ensure that the Dardanelles and the Bosphoros did not fall into Russian hands. The war was a strategic success and the Black Sea and the Russian Black sea fleet curtailed and fortification of the region reduced.

Lest not forget though that Britain and France were not the only allied nations but also Sardinia and Turkey were also part of the allied forces.

[jakascott21]

@balderdashandpiffle then the ottomans stabbed them in the back alot later in world war 1

[veidar9]

Too bad Russia lost this war...

[101spetsnaz]

@veidar9 Russia didn't really lose the war because according to statistics Russia lost 143000 soldiers vs the allies who lost 300000 to 375000 soldiers.

[Yaltasa16]

I live in sevastopol and there is a lot of monuments devoted to Crimean war

[mok2000]

The Thin Red Line wasn't so thin... It was packed with Ottoman Soilders!

[clydewell]

Must of been right hard bastards in those days.

[Flashaman1845]

Lions led by Donkey's !!!!

[kingbleah]

the british just loves war they even played music while doing it lol!.

[hollywoodwerewolf]

were there any British generals worth their weight in the Crimea? Or were they all silly fools thinking themselves the next Wellington?

[Woodlander65]

@hollywoodwerewolf

Yes, there was a Brigade Commander called John Lysaght Pennefather who commanded magnificently at Inkerman and Alma.

Lord Raglan wrote about him to Queen Victoria.

James Yorke Scarlett (Charge of the heavy brigade) was also excellent but was not allowed to advance further in combat by the silly fools that were in charge.

[Talbot6832]

@hollywoodwerewolf The entire thing had less to do with poor generalship than to the woeful preparation undertaken for a campaign in the Crimea. Not being able to focus admin where it was needed is one area - It is quite tough preparing for big pitched battle campaigns when you have most of your army strewn across 10,000 miles of globe in roles completely different to European campaigning. The French and Russians had their issues as well.

[omega856]

I always hated how the next scene shows all of those soldiers keeling over and dying from heat exhaustion...

[meconicuk]

@omega856

Not so much heat exhaustion; but cholera which they had picked up in Varna.

[Talbot6832]

@omega856 This is an anti-war film. Came out when Vietnam was looking a bit nasty.

[ColonelHess]

@omega856 I share your sentiment, but in the end the film was trying to underline a level of ineptitude displayed by all sides so I guess as far as the film goes it works.

[Wolfen443]

@ColonelHess, it was a terrible war that only gained startegic influence at a very high cost for all sides.

[ColonelHess]

@Wolfen443 To be honest I’m not sure we even gain that much, in a way this was the Iraq war of the era.

[crapatev]

@omega856 "I always hated how the next scene shows all of those soldiers keeling over and dying from heat exhaustion..."

But that's the Crimea in a nutshell, I'm afraid: pomp and circumstance and vomiting and diarrhoea.

[vlad48]

Are you sure this is the "Prince Albert March"? I can find no such British march online, strangely, only Prince Albert's March from Monaco. I would really like to know the correct title of this march - and who wrote it.

[JohnnyH1982]

@vlad48 I'd also love the name of this tune, the start of it has a bit of "Der Koniggratzer" (spelled that horribly I know). Great movie, with the exception of the British soldiers swinging their arms when marching. That is a 20th century practice and wasn't practiced by soldiers in Victoria's era.

[hma1369]

@vlad48

"Prince Albert's March" was the regimental march of the 13th Somerset Light Infantry ("Prince Albert's Own"). The composer was Stephen Glover.

[UnitedProviences]

The Black Watch, amazing troops.

[DrWoronoff]

By that as they go and to that on horizon - they go in area Burluk (nowadays Vilino)...

[j0andc0]

Terrific piece, used to bounce my kid up and down to this when she was a bab, still makes me laugh hearing it.

[marsmoke]

Thanks for finally putting a name to this march that has been in my head for nearly 40 years!

[Shancis]

The film is "The Charge of the Light Brigade" and the military march is "The Prince Albert March."

[meconicuk]

Many thanks for puting a name to the march the bands are playing.

[jonesp1auburnedu]

Do you know where to find an audio? I've checked Google and Amazon with no luck. Thanks!

[meconicuk]

Try googling Kneller Hall (school of military music).

They might be able to answer your question.

[meconicuk]

@Shancis New information on the title of music...

Prince Albert's Band March...composer Stephen Glover.

Stephen Glover (1813-1870) wrote upwards of 1,500 compositions, He was also noted for his marches at the time of the Crimean War and as well as Alma and Sebastopol Marches. He wrote the Prince Albert Band March, in 1851 and it sold 98,000 copies .

Mac

[ussoxmis]

What movie is this from ?

[Lignyboy]

Ruddy marvellous