Watch Michal Moores mini documentary about Norway on youtube and it will blow your mind! Seriously,we Norwegians are ranked top 10 on almost everything from healtcare, happines index to financial status per capita. We pay taxes so that each singel induvidual wont pay for all his/her medical expences we let our goverment control our oil industry and healtcare.So we as a people get the majority of our countries largest export income and free healthcare trough taxes that reduces the cost for us all
Socialized medicine and, more generally, high public sector spending caused the Eurozone crisis. Ideological arguments aside, the Democrats' position of universal healthcare is financially unsustainable and irresponsible - it will expand the national debt and will leave an ever greater burden on future generations.
@Pompeycanuck Acctually the crisis is a result of Greece providing false info so they could join the Euro. There plan was to boost there economy by this but it backfired. Secondly many countries national budgets where still recovering from having to save the banks after Lehman brothers defaulted, causing the current domino effect. Our healthcare system on the other hand caused nothing of the sort. On the contrary It maintains our level of employees by assuring they have a good health.
@Gregasus I agree with you on most things, but it wasn't just Greece, I mean they were the only nation that "cooked their books" to get in (with the help of Goldman Sachs btw) but Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Spain are in an economic crisis due to their own faults. Do not forget that Italy, a member of the G8 may have to go through an orderly default because their debt is more than 100% of their GDP, hovering around 2 trillion $ and Spain has an unemployment rate of over 20%.
@Pompeycanuck It will not raise the debt of your contry if you raise taxes, but thats something you're afraid of, simply because that most people in the US are to selfish to not care about other peoples health.
Stupid fucking american people. Budjet for defence? Who ask u to defend others country you dumb fuck? You are afraid of your own government. Sad. Socialized medicine. WHAT A JOKE. UR JUST A HUMAN BEING. YOU CANT BRING MONEY TO UR GRAVE AND SPEND IT! STUPID!.
a 21st century, industrialised country- the richest country in the world, has the worst healthcare out of all the MEDCs. That doesn't sit right with me, seems like America is quite a backwards country. A proud Brit speaking here and wondering how heartless America can be to let it's poorest people die slowly. If it was a poor country, i could understand, but America, come on. A slippery slope to socialism? Hardly, most of Europe has a national health service and avoided communism.
@foggy9900 The reason is that our health in the USA is that: We provide too much defense budget in all around the world so others could spend up and pay for their own social safety net since they had an agreement with us. One of the reason why Europe is thriving.
2nd: All of us wanted universal health care but again if we do that, we also have to add all the illegal immigrants including anchor babies and they eat up health care system than we are already currently in.
@foggy9900 If American's really believed in our government and corporations, we wouldn't be protesting them would we? Please don't think our politicians are our citizens anymore. Yes we have a lot of crazies and idiots, but what, there's no idiots in England? I've seen enough hooligans to know better. How would your country be, if for 90 years you're entire perception of reality and what is really going on were all lies? What would your country be then? America. The Fed owned England first.
Iám so happy that i life in Europe. And not in this god forsacing country that use his people only to gething bether for there selfs. its a shame. America is a 3th world country when you see the poor people and how the riche are living over ther. Shamefull it is.
It MIGHT blow the eurozone appart. I dont think it will come to that. But is the Canadian dollar appreciated higher than US dollar?: YES> Visted: BevHills, Sa monica SaBarbra,lagunabeach,LA SanDiego, SanFran, LasVegas,NY,Phoenix,Flagstaff, Seatle,NY, Atlanta, Tampa, Orlando, Miami, Sarrasota,Chigago. So ithink i have a pretty good picture of poverty and wealth in the U.S. The Euro is also appreciated higher than USD. Than means you can buy more for €1 than for $1
''people who make more money pay for those who make less. Is that ethical ? I am not so sure...it is almost like you are being punished if you want to make money.'' You are a bit Egocentric. Because of our system we preform better as a union. Go on worry over the price off your jeans.''In Europa we have higher productivity, healtier people and hapier people(hapiness index) because we care for everyone. On top of that we are in a way more healthy financial position debt wise''
@broensie12 Just out of curiosity: which parts of the US have you visited ? I guess the inner city of Detroit or suburbs of LA such as Beverly Hills make for a different kind of happiness...:)
Regarding the financial health of our Union: wasn't there something like a Euro crisis, which threatens to blow the entire Eurozone apart ? Maybe not...
OK. you have got a point on the gas en addedvalue tax. But our system works better. In Europa we have higher productivity, healtier people and hapier people(hapiness index) because we care for everyone. On top of that we are in a way more healthy financial position debt wise
The health care costs per head of most european countries are significant lower than the in the U.S. At the same time the quality of our health care is much better.
@broensie12 Listen, I don't want to dwell on this for too long, otherwise it gets too negative. And being negative attracts bad things. All I am saying is: you really don't pay less. Your health insurance might be lower, but you pay indirectly, in other ways. Gas is the equivalent of nine dollars per gallon, at current exchange rates, top income tax rates vary from 50 to 70 percent, sales tax in Holland is 19 percent. Compare that to the US.
Thorough analyses (as provided in the articles I suggested for you to read) calculate all healthcare costs per capita per country. That includes outrageous private spending by filthy rich Dutch people. That's macro economics and policymaking by smart grown ups.
You really thought they would just look at the tiny monthly fee you pay, while most of it is payed by your employer anyway?
@DianthaNota 'Filthy rich'...that's exactly what I mean. If you are rich, it's almost like you are a criminal. Where does that come from ? I do not know anybody with a lot of money who doesn't deserve it.
The employer portion of the health care cost is what lies at the heart of the discussion about health care reform in the US. You try to implement our system over there, and you crash the US economy in no time. Most small businesses simply cannot afford it.
Btw, this is a very good documentary to watch, I recommend it. Michael Moore is one of the very few in the motion picture bussiness that really cares for his country people in the present.
If you watch this documantairy you realise America is run by conservatives who only think of their own wealth. In Europa we have higher productivity, healtier people and hapier people(hapiness index) because we care for everyone. On top of that we are in a way more healthy financial position.
If you disagree, I dare you to watch this documantairy till the end, and we wil see if you still disagree.
Best regards
A proud, wealthy, healthy and well educated Eurpean.Dutch
@broensie12 And ya i agree what you saying because you live off the backs of our defense budget. Hopefully we can pull out U.S. military bases soon and pay for your own defense. Time for you guys to pay for your own defense this time and we could use it to spend our own welfare.
@Hperman09 Actually, we don't really need that much of a defence system the way the american's need it, because we don't go on and attack other countries and get involved in wars that are pointless and only cost a lot of money. Actually, it always is the US that gets ús involved! There are a lot of European soldiers fighting a war, caused by Americans, in the middle east. So don't say that we are living of yóur defense budget.
@nicoletje111 To comment on that, yes you have been living under our protection for 60 years since WW2 ended isn't why we had a military bases in Europe? You know why we had a military base in the Netherlands? Since you're 15 year old, i really can't bother. After all, why did you guys asked us to bail you out when the EU is falling down? Don't be arrogant and ignorant.
@nicoletje111 BTw, why don't you guy pay for your own instead of us relying on us to do the dirty job. Want me go do all the EU failure in Bosnia? I could go on.
@nicoletje111 Actually, the UN had a idea to take North Korea and the U.S. agreed but after the chinese invaded, it time to stick back to point of saving South Korea. It did sucessfully. As for Vietnam, it was botched up for the start. It went without a clear exit plan. That's why europe failed with Bosnia. as for the ME, Afghanistan and Iraq was changed into winning into a peacekeeping . Also since we got Bin Laden, we should have left Afghanistan. nation building wasn't part of our mission.
@Hperman09 Yeah, why did the US decide to take part in WWII? Not because they were so generous or something, but because they got attacked themselve by the Japanese. Do you really think the US would have participated if that hadn't happened? And also, the only reason why the US decided to protect Europe was because they were afraid of Russia and communism. In a lot of countries there was a big communist party, and the US didn't want russia to gain power. They were basically protecting themselves
@nicoletje111 That's called national interests right or wrong. We went into WW2 because we were attacked in Pearl Harbor. Israel isn't our friend but they are our ally because of strategic importance in the ME. We weren't interested in WW2 because we felt it was Europeans problem. After WW1, Wilson proposed 14 points for peace in Europe but Europe instead chose to punish Germany and make them pay for what their done. If they had listen to our 14 points, WW2 would have been avoided.
@Hperman09 Yes, Wilson's 14 points for peace would've been a better solution than de treaty of Versailles, but the situation in Europ was really bad at the time. In France, almost every family had lost a brother or a father. People wanted revenge, wich is understandable. In a lot of countries, WW 1 is also considered to be worse than WW 2. Also, Wilson could have tried to push his plan more, but after WW 1 America pulled back again in it's atmosphere of isolation.
@nicoletje111 Wilson was still focused but Europe told us to handle it so we chickened out and pull out of to let you guys handle you own. Wilson tried to persuade the Congress to get into the league of nations but it was rejected. Then after WW2, our foreign policy was changed from isolation to a proactive foreign policy: Trying to pay attention to the world before it blow up into WW2. Which is why WW3 didn't happen. Mostly because od nukes i believe.
Awareness is the thing. I still suffer sick, as my insurance co. won't pay for what works and helps me and what my Dr. has recommended. No they'ed rather pay a whole stream of hosp. ER bills. If I had to pay for insurance I wouldn't. I was healthier when I had the money to self pay. The medical system is BROKEN and so of no use. It's make me so much sicker that I have to walk away from health care.
I live in The Netherlands, a country that claims to have universal health care. That might be true, but whenever I go to see a general physician, and that's maybe once every 10 years, I am stunned at how bad they are. They would be sued out of business in the US within a week for giving the wrong analysis, and prescribing the wrong medicine. That is what happens with socialized health care, everybody feels entitled, and nobody really cares. US, please don't take that road...
@nazgulero It's ok speaking about your own countries healthcare and making your own opinions on it but don't put everyone else's universal healthcare system into the same category as yours which might be bad. If it is so bad then go private, nothing is stopping anyone from taking health insurance out and going private if you have money but universal healthcare is there because everyone has a right to healthcare which is not based on profit and money but a persons medical need.
It's another fable you hear from certain politicians and mostly from some folks in society that never took an academic degree that requires looking for real proven evidence.
Start by googling the Reuters articles:
"Dutch top for healthcare despite low drug spending" (2008)
"U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study" (2010)
'Spinning' may be accepted by a majority of our population due to a lack of critical stands, yet it suggests the real motive is so immoral it needs a cover.
@nazgulero I'm from Holland aswell, and I strongly disagree with your opinion on care in our country. Our healthcare system is not perfect, but it is most certainly better arranged than most. Maybe you should try live in the US and feel the difference.
Disclaimer to any patriot: I am not against the US, but I do know the lacking healthcare system, hence my comparison.
@L1b3rta Well, I can only speak from my own experience. The main problem I have with Mr. Moore complaining about the health care system is the fact that he is the very reason why health care is so expensive. Grossly overweight people tax any health care system, and make it more expensive for everyone. I bet he cannot run for more than 100 yards without collapsing. It's a joke. If he sheds 150 pounds and THEN makes the documentary, he comes across as much more believable...
Interestingly, being overweight is more common among those who vote for parties that defy the Dutch system and romanticise the American. Same with smokers. Ever heard of the right-voting overpaid babyboom generation?
Now that we are done with assuming over other people's life, it would be more interesting to see any arguments against the pragmatic approach of the Dutch system: it's the cheapest, high quality, available to all and ethical. Especially the first two you should like.
@DianthaNota It's a common illusion that it's cheap. It's not cheap. You live in Holland, so you know how expensive everything is compared to the US. You pay the equivalent of 100 dollars for a pair of Levis jeans. The bills always have to be paid, no matter where you are. It's just that over here, people who make more money pay for those who make less. Is that ethical ? I am not so sure...it is almost like you are being punished if you want to make money.
@nazgulero That's a good point you make. It's a fair arguement why not to implement a social healthcare system for an obese country. Michael Moore definitely fits in with the other 30% of obese America. However, one must wonder, where does the 30% country's obese rating come from? How can 1/3 of a country become so fat? I mean, why are so many people addicted to fattening fast foods? And why do you see so many fat people in America, and nowhere else on the world?
@L1b3rta I live in Holland, and there are just as many fat people around here as there are in the US. The shocking truth is that there is a direct relation between obesity and intelligence. Is our prime minister fat ? How many really fat CEO's do you know ? Mr. Moore should have started his documentary with: I am Michael Moore, I am way too fat, and I am the very reason our health care system is in trouble. If we all start taking care of ourselves better, health care becomes affordable for all.
I live in Peru, went through many rounds of chemoterapy and didn't have to pay a cent. even tough there are some fucked up things here , I'm kinda proud of my country =)
@cesar1561 I hope you got better...:). Obviously you do realize that even if YOU did not pay a cent, SOMEBODY paid your bills. That is what this whole discussion is about, who pays the bills. Are you ENTITLED to get something for free ? A car ? Food ? Health Care ?
@nazgulero So in other words, the system you want, boils down to: the sick get poor, the healthy remain wealthy. Not sure if you realise this, but it is a very unsocial and corrupt standpoint to go this route.
The system you think is better, actually isn't, not over the longterm (and especially at moments if economies go bad). The point of having a social system is that everyone contributes a small fraqment to lift the large domestic burden of healtcare (heard of the expression, many hands make light work?). With a privatised system, the sick would be forced to pay through their teeth. While the health remain rich and wealthy.
@L1b3rta The entire 'problem' is largely exaggerated anyway. 46 million uninsured people, 10 million are not US citizens, another 17 million make enough (> 54,000 dollars) to get insurance but choose not do, which narrows the entire issue down to about 7 percent of the population. Which means: 93 percent does have health insurance. We are talking about the largest economy in the world here - get a grip people, don't get sucked into leftist anti-American rethoric.
@nazgulero If there is someone who should get a grip, it is you. You jump from subject to subject as soon as you haven't got a viable arguement to share anymore. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away. And if people were anti-american here, than they would hate all americans. What people are frustrated about are American governments and health insurers, mr strawman much.
@L1b3rta Well, who exactly is complaining ? There are many polls showing that the vast majority of Americans are happy with the care they receive, and the insurance they have. I think eventually it comes down to what the majority wants. If the majority wants change, change is going to happen. Anyway, what is your personal situtation ? Are you ill ? I am just asking because usually, people defend their own interests. And what part of the US do you know, where have you lived ?
@nazgulero Um, can you link me to these "polls" cause you just sound like you're being paid to say that, and then collecting market research at the end.
@nazgulero Yeah, that's still 21 million uninsured Americans...that's still a hell of a lot of people, (that's the pop. of Australia) myself included. I'm a white male, from the upper middle-class, college graduate, and I can't afford health insurance on top of EVERYTHING I have to pay, including an unconstitutional income tax that takes a fifth of my income. So, for four months of the year, I'm a slave to the government, and the Federal Reserve which is collecting on my labor. so ur right.
Last week I went into hypoglycemic shock (I'm not diabetic so I had no idea what was going on, I just knew that something was wrong) and had to call an ambulance.
I was in the hospital for less than 3 hours and a few weeks later I get the bill for the ambulance+hospital visit. $600 dollars!!!
600 dollars for some orange juice and an uncomfortable bed to lay in for an hour. I must be the luckiest girl in the world!
I actually don't have this massive fear of tax that a lot of people seem to have. I'd rather pay a lot of tax and get a lot of services for little cost. When he went to France I must admit though there were some services that I felt were unnecessary like someone coming to your house to do laundry when on mat-leave. So a perfect country in my eyes would be in between a Canada and a Scandinavia (simpler living)- more services and a better working life but not overdoing it on the little things.
@ultimatedeathmetal i am all disgusted with the people who steal money and charge the little man, which is mainly the conservative party...if only our health care were more like Canada...
Any and all government intervention is bad (very bad). The economy should be separated from the state in the same way that religion was separated from the state.
Were you aware that filmmaker Michael Moore's agent in Hollywood is the Israeli, Ariel Emanuel, who is the brother of Rahm Emanuel? The Israeli sons of Ben Emanuel (a former member of the terrorist Stern Gang/LEHI) profited from Moore's controlled interpretation of the terror attacks. Incidentally, Rahm Emanuel was the driving force behind the passage of the disastrous NAFTA bill (under Clinton) that devastated the U.S. manufacturing sector, one of Moore's pet peeves.
The slave trade that brought millions of Africans to the W. hemisphere was totally capitalist. They don't mention that when BSing on about it being the only free system in world history. The profits out of everything to do with slavery - from chains made in England to sugar grown in Brazil - helped England become the first industrial country. Ironic eht? So more power to Mike - and he should be careful because he has made powerful enemies. If he ever has an 'accident', be suspicious.
Coercive Sector Medical Care is criminal and all of the individuals upholding it should be charged as such. Everything should be voluntary, the opposite of criminal socialism.
The 56% of medical care that is part of the criminal, coercive sector is why there are problems with this service, not because of a lack of criminal coercion.
Michael Moore, wealthy obese anti-American peddler, lectures people on health care while stealing "free health-care" from socialist countries. The best is when he steals "free health-care" courtesy of the poverty ravaged nation of Cuba. What a hero LOL. What a joke, why isn't this guy in jail for stealing?
@BlackRepublican2010: Lol - maybe its because he did nothing wrong. Also, he speaks the truth. Sure, you CAN get cared for here in Amerikkka; but you get billed and so you owe for basically the rest of your life if you're poor. Yes, Amerikkka is a good nation...for the wealthy. I love it when rich Amerikkkans tell us to get out if WE don't like it when THEY have the money to leave.
@BlackRepublican2010 Yes it's very sad when American's have to go somewhere else to get the healthcare they need. What a joke! I'm pretty sure he's not anti-America,just anti dickheads who rip poor people off. The only place on earth where the government don't give shit about its people. Wake up!
It pretty obvious to most poor Americans that Republicans are simply greedy self centered racist with no moral ethics. They somehow think they are superior to the poor and that all they have was earned and discount their own advantages they luckily were born with. They've never walked in a poor mans shoes and aren't concerned with empathy for their fellow man.
At least with universal healthcare it seems that people get a shot at care. But what chances do you have when you are denied health insurance because of pre-existing conditions or don’t meet requirements? One would think we all have the right to life, but it seems that only those with wealth and the ability to pay when ill have the right to live while the poor at the mercy of big companies should roll over and die. Humans - we pretend to care but all put self and greed first, even I do at times
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Sicko is nothing but a movie for a stupid audience. The fact that Moore could shame us Americans into thinking that by going to a Cuban Communist Potemkin village and extolling the virtues of Socialism with this farce propaganda movie is preposterous. The fact of the matter is that Cuba is a Fascist country and a one part police state. What we Americans have is far far better than the average $20 a month wage. Only the idiot Democrats could be duped by this two bit Communist, Michael Moore.
Moore was taken to a special Cuban hospital reserved for Cuba's elite. There are photos smuggled out of Cuba that show dilapidated hospitals with bleak rooms where patients have to hang clothes to dry on the windows, filthy conditions, floors covered with bugs, patients who are neglected and some who even starve.
*All the statistics coming out of Cuba are false.
*In Cuba, if a child dies a few hours after birth, they don't count it as ever having lived.
You have to understand that the Democrats that typically eat this Michael Moore propaganda are truly Fascists at heart. Its known that Castro idolized Benito Mussolini in his younger years. The rest that do are idiots. This movie when shot in Cuba was just a Potemkin village.
For all you morons who think America's health care system is fucked up and the European and Canada system is better Canada is in the process of denying a 13 month old boy a transfer to a US hospital for treatment that could prolong his life. That's right a socialist health care system is playing god and not allowing the parents the decision on whats the best care for the child.
@cjyount This is a special case and does not represent the entire health care systems of Canada or Europe. Unless the parents are doctors then they may not know what is best for their children medically and nobody is saying our systems are best but things need to change in the U.S. and our systems always need to looking to be improved and modified.
@Proudgypsy This has been reported multiple times throughout Canada and other universal health care systems. My point was any system you have is going to have flaws and to criticize the US health system without objectively looking at other systems is wrong.
@cjyount The point about the child was good. But do you also care about the millions denied healthcare every day? When insurance companies refuse to cover an expense or deny people care for pre-existing conditions aren’t they also playing God so to speak? Plenty of US children are denied insurance... No system is perfect. The healthcare system in America is fucked up for a lot of people. I’m sure the healthcare systems in other countries are fucked up for a lot of citizens also.
@ImNotRacistImBias I do care about children not receiving health care in this country but like I said earlier other systems have just as many problems as the US health care system. My point is you cannot add 40-60 million people to the health care system without seeing significant increases in cost. There are other ways to fix our health care system and make it a lot cheaper then trying to force people to go on the public option or fine them.
@cjyount lol americans are funny. first off we have sick kids, which is the best hospital in the world for sick kids, so i have no clue wtf you're talking about. How many americans die from being denied healthcare? 50000 per year. every 17 seconds someone in the US goes bankrupt trying to pay their medical bills. sowhat you just posted would probably make sense to retard. so for a guy who who thinks this one case is an arguement for not having universal hc, u sir are a moron! dont be brainwashed
@lordrazr Before you criticize me you might want to learn how to write an actual sentence. I dont know where you got the 50,000 Americans dying per year but if you read my earlier statements I said our health care systems needs to be fixed. Universal health care is not the answer. There are a lot of problems with universal health care and I only pointed to one of them.
@cjyount where i got it? its called research, cdc is where i got it. Besides what would be wrong with 2 tier? Would you have a problem with that? 50000 people a year is a lot, health for profit seems sooooo wrong and evil.
@lordrazr First those are estimates and other organizations such as federally chartered Institute of Medicine place the number around 22,000. The problem with a 2 tier system is the number of people who would be on it and the overall cost.
'Canada' isn't denying a 13-month old boy transfer, they initially deny to pay excessive treatment abroad, specifically where doctors are overpaid.
The boy COULD get transferred. If the excessive costs are brought up by his parents alone- which is exactly the same that would happen if the boy was in the US system. He still gets the 'limited' treatment in Canada covered. Keep in mind this is a very specific case, not a system.
Hailing with sad kids was a Stalinist propaganda thing btw
I'm only 40 but believe it or not I have arthritis in my right hip. I'm going to need hip replacement before I'm 45. Until then, I have to get physical therapy which costs $208 per session.
I'm a hard working person who only makes $11 per hour. My company gives me a lousy high deductible health care plan, which costs me $140 per paycheck. After that and taxes, my take-home pay is less than $8 per hour.
BRING ON THE FUCKING SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@StraightFashionMan well, I don't say that Univesal Social Healthcare we have in western Europe is great either.
Me and my girlfriend pay 250 euro's (or $340,-) a month for social healthcare, all I do is go to a dentist twice a year and my girl only has the birthcontrolpil with her insurance and we pay over 4000 dollars a year for it.
It's cheap when you're sick, because you can go to the docter every week, pills from a pezz-dispenser and a check-up at the hospital for the same amount.
If the government of the richest country in the world want's to suppress knowledge, they will. Keep saying Americans are dumb, but just realize what kind of power they have to submit to.
You want Americans to get a clue, and start fighting these filthy rich and powerful companies? You'd be better off establishing democracy in North Korea. The rest of the world needs to lighten up.
@coolduderyan07 Power? What power? Did you that the US has a shortage of 1,7 billion a day on it's trade balance? Countries like China and Saudi Arabia lend the US trillions just let you buy stuff.
If you can't see that this system is going to end soon you are dumb.
The day China can sell his "made in China" crap to his own citizens, they don't need the US anymore.
Why bother on 300 million americans who can't pay the bill if you have 1,4 billion costumers in your own country.
@madhat1979 What? My point was mutli-billion dollar companies run America...would you disagree with me? When the government continues to support them, capital runs the country. In turn, the man who can write the biggest check has the most influence.
If you can't see this, then you aren't dumb because I wouldn't stoop that low, you are ill informed.
@coolduderyan07 I get your point, the question is do you get mine?
Capitalism already rules America, that is the way the american people want to live, "the american dream".
But nobody seems to see that this isn't a way to do things, big manufactures open work places outside the US to make big profits, the result is almost 10% unemployment.
Big banks squeeze out home owners for huge profits and bonuses, result is that 1.1% of the american people is homeless, 10 times more than the EU avarage.
@madhat1979 Yes, I'm aware and understand your point. But the American people are brainwashed, and it's hard to recover from a way of thought that has been cemented in our minds. If the general population understood the harm being done, they would act. But they don't, and it isn't entirely their fault. Everything they see, hear, and take part in involves some sort of illusion. Take Britain for example they have REAL news, you get my point? We have lies. That's what we deal with.
I feel so bad for the Americans, thank god we have universal healthcare here in Austria. It´s true America is ruled by companies as someone mentioned here before. I mean this is crazy! I wonder how doctors can sleep well when they deny treatment... Folks wake up!
I uderstood the Hippocratic oath to mean that a doctor, any doctor, must treat ANYONE requiring medical care...? So how can Americans be refused life saving surgery over something as comparitively trivial as money?
I've had major spinal sugery, carpal tunnel surgery, appendectimy, specialised treatment for arthritis, osteonecrosis, heart murmur and high blood pressure - all for free. In America I'd be severely crippled or dead....
J'ai beaucoup aimé ce film. Effarant pour nous français, mais tellement américain. La liberté de faire ce que l'on veut (payer ou pas une assurance) est sacro sainte mais c'est surtout la liberté de payer tout plus cher dans le meilleur des cas et mourir dans le pire des cas. . Les américains méritent leur système pourri en revotant republicain. Malheureusement, avec sarkozy, nous allons nous aussi vers ce système ô combien remunérateur pour les assurances privées.
In Costa Rica you pay 1 time for Social Security and you will have medical insurange for you and your family. If you want to go one medic apart, you can to pay it
A very, very sad history... It's strange how money can do so much bad, it's strange how much suffering capitalism can do. We are all united, doesn't matter if you are poor or rich, women or man.
A great movie and a great inspiration. It is strange that a revolution hasn't appeared in USA.
@ultimatedeathmetal Yep, if you don't do what America does, you get slandered as a communist. If you dislike some of the actions of Israel, you are anti-Semitic etc tec.
POOR AMERICANS THEY JUST LIVE FRIGTHEN BY THEIR GOVERNMENT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SWIN FLU NOTHING JUST SCARE BY THE US GOV, JUST IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM BUY DRUGS AND MAKE RICHER AND RICHER THE DRUGS INDUSTRY WHY DON´T THEY INVEST IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY IN SPITE OF SPENDING ALL THE MONEY IN WEAPONS AND INVASIONS TO OTHER COUNTRIES I REALLY FEEL SAD FOR ALL THAT AMERICANS ....
@gochorneahp1 lol agreed america = driven by fear. i'm american and i get so fucking aggravated that you people get so fucking scared of everything like: mexicans, muslims, asians, naacp, obama, bush, palin, swine flu, guns, bombs, food, money, tax, government, bills, immigrants, europe, mexico, the border, the tv, internet, fox news. it's like get a fucking grip.
Wikileaks has released documents from the Cuban government which explained why they banned the film in Cuba. They didn't want the citizens to see the healthcare they WEREN'T getting that Moore claimed they were.
The question becomes: Did he intentionally lie or was he simply blind to the truth of their sub-par healthcare due to his borderline-psychotic hatred of the U.S.?
@ultimatedeathmetal Your news media runs a 30 second clip on US health care and 40 minute episode on new flower potting methods. Germany is a great country to live in, I have been there several times (and not just to munchen and frankfurt, my wife is a German citizen), unless that is you are middle eastern or for that matter from any country other than Germany. Oh and unless you are woman because you will never see a top management job. Brain washed are we? Keep kidding your self =)
The conservatives are such hypocrites. When a woman decides to abort her baby, it's "murder" according to them, but when a baby dies because the parents can't afford health insurance they don't care.
@bartuzi Well it depends were you live when you get socialist medicine because some doctors don't like it and do everything in their power to make it fail because they would be making 3 to 4 times more if it were privatized! Youtube for "zeitgeist addendum".
The American system is one of the least accessible system in the world, and yet they tell us that American system is the best. The "socialist" systems of Europe we are told that they suck. The sad thing is that Americans believe so. No my dear Americans, "socialists" health care systems have been tested and proven to be better than the capitalist American system.,
@imax1971 Are you a fucking retard? Let's see, I live in Canada and I went to the hospital a week ago, two days ago and yesterday. The total amount of time I had to wait was 30 minutes. Now I'm in the proces of healing from pneumonia.
See what America would've given you two years back when your broke ass parents couldn't afford healthcare and you sliced off your hand with a door cause obviously you're a fucking retard. Maybe you could've asked Michael Moore for some health care payment LOL
You have been the world's superpower for 50+ years and you have had billions of dollars of revenue. You could have built a wonderful National Health Service for your people and no American would have had to suffer.
But instead you stupid yanks blew your wealth on luxury, cars, fancy homes, flashy clothes, gadgets, gimmicks, swimming pools, personal computers, etc etc..
Now there are 19 MILLION uninsured children in the USA!?!!?
i saw this movie today and i have to say im glad someone brought this to all the americans attention, and its a shame that some americans are still ignorant about it.
i live in greece and actually they're changing the system from free health care to the american one, with the list of deseases that are not insured..they do one step at a time so that people do not rebel against it but man..how can they?!it's unbelievable!
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I'm so glad moore made this film. I remember what it was like to watch my mom take time off of work -- unheard of! -- and spent three days on the phone with her health insurance company because they were dodging her and didn't want to get her treatment when she got cancer. She finally made them do it, but it was all a horrible thing to watch when you're twelve. That, and my mother has -excellent- health insurance and she's -rich-!
steven, yes indeed a healty lifestyle helps, but there are plenty people who live very healty and get cancer or other diseases so what are you saying, no the system in the USA is wrong very wrong.
The United States spends more than twice as much on each person for health care as most other industrialized countries. But it has fallen to last place among those countries in preventing deaths through use of timely and effective medical care.
Therefore use only natural products. If you really want to save yourself, others and save the good industries. As a kind of statement, a big finger at the wrong industries. Wake up. You must be responsible for your own health but dont come complaining when it goes wrong by your own mistakes. If you do not understand this nothing will ever be changed.
Children are so fat, hmm it is because of the junk food and sugar? A simple cause and effect! But then some people really still think: I don't care! As long as it tastes good! Without thinking what they take in. Dumb herd behavior that the evil industries earn big bucks with. Deaths and illnesses caused by smoking costs the EU still one trillion euros every year! Regular shampoos, makeup and skin creams destroy our skin and health, food with pesticide, colourings and full of sugar too.
high but take no responsibility. They wont leave eat that extra cake, sweets, cigaret they just continue to destroy their own health and built up an higher health costs without knowing. Improper diet, alcohol, drugs are the reasons all kinds of illnesses and infections occur. Even cancer and diabetes. People wonder why they are so hyper and empty in their heads. Hmm maybe it is because you drink coffee (caffeine and burnt beans that can cause cancer) all day and smoke cannabis.
I am for free healthcare but also for prevention of bad lifestyle. Fortunately, more and more people wake up and realize what a mess they get theirselves in. I never understand why health costs have to be high. If you take better care of yourself and eat healthier, have a healthier lifestyle than you have lower doctors costs. A healthier lifestyle is less expensive. So simple. I do not understand why people do not get this. Always pointing the finger and complain why health insurance is so
Watch Michal Moores mini documentary about Norway on youtube and it will blow your mind! Seriously,we Norwegians are ranked top 10 on almost everything from healtcare, happines index to financial status per capita. We pay taxes so that each singel induvidual wont pay for all his/her medical expences we let our goverment control our oil industry and healtcare.So we as a people get the majority of our countries largest export income and free healthcare trough taxes that reduces the cost for us all
airHaakon 3 days ago
I bet those Tea Bag nuts call Moore a commie libtard
trouzerpants 2 weeks ago
Socialized medicine and, more generally, high public sector spending caused the Eurozone crisis. Ideological arguments aside, the Democrats' position of universal healthcare is financially unsustainable and irresponsible - it will expand the national debt and will leave an ever greater burden on future generations.
Pompeycanuck 2 months ago
@Pompeycanuck Acctually the crisis is a result of Greece providing false info so they could join the Euro. There plan was to boost there economy by this but it backfired. Secondly many countries national budgets where still recovering from having to save the banks after Lehman brothers defaulted, causing the current domino effect. Our healthcare system on the other hand caused nothing of the sort. On the contrary It maintains our level of employees by assuring they have a good health.
Gregasus 2 months ago
@Gregasus I agree with you on most things, but it wasn't just Greece, I mean they were the only nation that "cooked their books" to get in (with the help of Goldman Sachs btw) but Portugal, Ireland, Italy and Spain are in an economic crisis due to their own faults. Do not forget that Italy, a member of the G8 may have to go through an orderly default because their debt is more than 100% of their GDP, hovering around 2 trillion $ and Spain has an unemployment rate of over 20%.
pancakemaster5 2 weeks ago
@Pompeycanuck It will not raise the debt of your contry if you raise taxes, but thats something you're afraid of, simply because that most people in the US are to selfish to not care about other peoples health.
MathiasMoeller 2 weeks ago
Stupid fucking american people. Budjet for defence? Who ask u to defend others country you dumb fuck? You are afraid of your own government. Sad. Socialized medicine. WHAT A JOKE. UR JUST A HUMAN BEING. YOU CANT BRING MONEY TO UR GRAVE AND SPEND IT! STUPID!.
ecs6474 2 months ago 2
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teslaprojects 2 months ago
Glad, I live in europe.
reaper84 2 months ago 3
a 21st century, industrialised country- the richest country in the world, has the worst healthcare out of all the MEDCs. That doesn't sit right with me, seems like America is quite a backwards country. A proud Brit speaking here and wondering how heartless America can be to let it's poorest people die slowly. If it was a poor country, i could understand, but America, come on. A slippery slope to socialism? Hardly, most of Europe has a national health service and avoided communism.
foggy9900 3 months ago
@foggy9900 The reason is that our health in the USA is that: We provide too much defense budget in all around the world so others could spend up and pay for their own social safety net since they had an agreement with us. One of the reason why Europe is thriving.
2nd: All of us wanted universal health care but again if we do that, we also have to add all the illegal immigrants including anchor babies and they eat up health care system than we are already currently in.
Others reason for it.
Hperman09 3 months ago
@foggy9900 If American's really believed in our government and corporations, we wouldn't be protesting them would we? Please don't think our politicians are our citizens anymore. Yes we have a lot of crazies and idiots, but what, there's no idiots in England? I've seen enough hooligans to know better. How would your country be, if for 90 years you're entire perception of reality and what is really going on were all lies? What would your country be then? America. The Fed owned England first.
wallabyj 2 months ago
what is th song called at 0:20??
6FashionDesigner3 3 months ago
She works 3 jobs!? just to live!!?? And the other women has to preaprove an ambulence???!! WTF?! im so happy i live in scandinavia..
DPAMULTIMEDIA 4 months ago 2
Iám so happy that i life in Europe. And not in this god forsacing country that use his people only to gething bether for there selfs. its a shame. America is a 3th world country when you see the poor people and how the riche are living over ther. Shamefull it is.
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@nazgulero
It MIGHT blow the eurozone appart. I dont think it will come to that. But is the Canadian dollar appreciated higher than US dollar?: YES> Visted: BevHills, Sa monica SaBarbra,lagunabeach,LA SanDiego, SanFran, LasVegas,NY,Phoenix,Flagstaff, Seatle,NY, Atlanta, Tampa, Orlando, Miami, Sarrasota,Chigago. So ithink i have a pretty good picture of poverty and wealth in the U.S. The Euro is also appreciated higher than USD. Than means you can buy more for €1 than for $1
broensie12 5 months ago
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broensie12 5 months ago
@nazgulero
''people who make more money pay for those who make less. Is that ethical ? I am not so sure...it is almost like you are being punished if you want to make money.'' You are a bit Egocentric. Because of our system we preform better as a union. Go on worry over the price off your jeans.''In Europa we have higher productivity, healtier people and hapier people(hapiness index) because we care for everyone. On top of that we are in a way more healthy financial position debt wise''
broensie12 5 months ago in playlist Sicko
@broensie12 Just out of curiosity: which parts of the US have you visited ? I guess the inner city of Detroit or suburbs of LA such as Beverly Hills make for a different kind of happiness...:)
Regarding the financial health of our Union: wasn't there something like a Euro crisis, which threatens to blow the entire Eurozone apart ? Maybe not...
nazgulero 5 months ago
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@nazgulero
OK. you have got a point on the gas en addedvalue tax. But our system works better. In Europa we have higher productivity, healtier people and hapier people(hapiness index) because we care for everyone. On top of that we are in a way more healthy financial position debt wise
broensie12 5 months ago in playlist Sicko
@nazgulero
The health care costs per head of most european countries are significant lower than the in the U.S. At the same time the quality of our health care is much better.
broensie12 5 months ago
@broensie12 Listen, I don't want to dwell on this for too long, otherwise it gets too negative. And being negative attracts bad things. All I am saying is: you really don't pay less. Your health insurance might be lower, but you pay indirectly, in other ways. Gas is the equivalent of nine dollars per gallon, at current exchange rates, top income tax rates vary from 50 to 70 percent, sales tax in Holland is 19 percent. Compare that to the US.
nazgulero 5 months ago
@nazgulero
Thorough analyses (as provided in the articles I suggested for you to read) calculate all healthcare costs per capita per country. That includes outrageous private spending by filthy rich Dutch people. That's macro economics and policymaking by smart grown ups.
You really thought they would just look at the tiny monthly fee you pay, while most of it is payed by your employer anyway?
The top income tax rates part is a plane lie.
DianthaNota 5 months ago
@DianthaNota 'Filthy rich'...that's exactly what I mean. If you are rich, it's almost like you are a criminal. Where does that come from ? I do not know anybody with a lot of money who doesn't deserve it.
The employer portion of the health care cost is what lies at the heart of the discussion about health care reform in the US. You try to implement our system over there, and you crash the US economy in no time. Most small businesses simply cannot afford it.
nazgulero 5 months ago
Btw, this is a very good documentary to watch, I recommend it. Michael Moore is one of the very few in the motion picture bussiness that really cares for his country people in the present.
L1b3rta 5 months ago 2
About Sicko:
If you watch this documantairy you realise America is run by conservatives who only think of their own wealth. In Europa we have higher productivity, healtier people and hapier people(hapiness index) because we care for everyone. On top of that we are in a way more healthy financial position.
If you disagree, I dare you to watch this documantairy till the end, and we wil see if you still disagree.
Best regards
A proud, wealthy, healthy and well educated Eurpean.Dutch
broensie12 5 months ago 25
@broensie12 And ya i agree what you saying because you live off the backs of our defense budget. Hopefully we can pull out U.S. military bases soon and pay for your own defense. Time for you guys to pay for your own defense this time and we could use it to spend our own welfare.
Hperman09 3 months ago
@Hperman09 Actually, we don't really need that much of a defence system the way the american's need it, because we don't go on and attack other countries and get involved in wars that are pointless and only cost a lot of money. Actually, it always is the US that gets ús involved! There are a lot of European soldiers fighting a war, caused by Americans, in the middle east. So don't say that we are living of yóur defense budget.
nicoletje111 2 months ago
@nicoletje111 To comment on that, yes you have been living under our protection for 60 years since WW2 ended isn't why we had a military bases in Europe? You know why we had a military base in the Netherlands? Since you're 15 year old, i really can't bother. After all, why did you guys asked us to bail you out when the EU is falling down? Don't be arrogant and ignorant.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@nicoletje111 BTw, why don't you guy pay for your own instead of us relying on us to do the dirty job. Want me go do all the EU failure in Bosnia? I could go on.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@Hperman09 want me go to all the US failure in North Korea, Vietnam and the Middle East?
nicoletje111 2 months ago
@nicoletje111 Actually, the UN had a idea to take North Korea and the U.S. agreed but after the chinese invaded, it time to stick back to point of saving South Korea. It did sucessfully. As for Vietnam, it was botched up for the start. It went without a clear exit plan. That's why europe failed with Bosnia. as for the ME, Afghanistan and Iraq was changed into winning into a peacekeeping . Also since we got Bin Laden, we should have left Afghanistan. nation building wasn't part of our mission.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@Hperman09 Yeah, why did the US decide to take part in WWII? Not because they were so generous or something, but because they got attacked themselve by the Japanese. Do you really think the US would have participated if that hadn't happened? And also, the only reason why the US decided to protect Europe was because they were afraid of Russia and communism. In a lot of countries there was a big communist party, and the US didn't want russia to gain power. They were basically protecting themselves
nicoletje111 2 months ago
@nicoletje111 That's called national interests right or wrong. We went into WW2 because we were attacked in Pearl Harbor. Israel isn't our friend but they are our ally because of strategic importance in the ME. We weren't interested in WW2 because we felt it was Europeans problem. After WW1, Wilson proposed 14 points for peace in Europe but Europe instead chose to punish Germany and make them pay for what their done. If they had listen to our 14 points, WW2 would have been avoided.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@Hperman09 Yes, Wilson's 14 points for peace would've been a better solution than de treaty of Versailles, but the situation in Europ was really bad at the time. In France, almost every family had lost a brother or a father. People wanted revenge, wich is understandable. In a lot of countries, WW 1 is also considered to be worse than WW 2. Also, Wilson could have tried to push his plan more, but after WW 1 America pulled back again in it's atmosphere of isolation.
nicoletje111 2 months ago
@nicoletje111 Wilson was still focused but Europe told us to handle it so we chickened out and pull out of to let you guys handle you own. Wilson tried to persuade the Congress to get into the league of nations but it was rejected. Then after WW2, our foreign policy was changed from isolation to a proactive foreign policy: Trying to pay attention to the world before it blow up into WW2. Which is why WW3 didn't happen. Mostly because od nukes i believe.
Hperman09 2 months ago
@broensie12 a lot of americans do realize that but nobody does anything about it
908LuX973 3 weeks ago
@broensie12 Alright, i will. Then I dare you to watch An American Carol all the way to the end.
RandomLoser21 2 weeks ago
Awareness is the thing. I still suffer sick, as my insurance co. won't pay for what works and helps me and what my Dr. has recommended. No they'ed rather pay a whole stream of hosp. ER bills. If I had to pay for insurance I wouldn't. I was healthier when I had the money to self pay. The medical system is BROKEN and so of no use. It's make me so much sicker that I have to walk away from health care.
JenniferPage1 5 months ago 2
I live in The Netherlands, a country that claims to have universal health care. That might be true, but whenever I go to see a general physician, and that's maybe once every 10 years, I am stunned at how bad they are. They would be sued out of business in the US within a week for giving the wrong analysis, and prescribing the wrong medicine. That is what happens with socialized health care, everybody feels entitled, and nobody really cares. US, please don't take that road...
nazgulero 6 months ago
@nazgulero It's ok speaking about your own countries healthcare and making your own opinions on it but don't put everyone else's universal healthcare system into the same category as yours which might be bad. If it is so bad then go private, nothing is stopping anyone from taking health insurance out and going private if you have money but universal healthcare is there because everyone has a right to healthcare which is not based on profit and money but a persons medical need.
devaal 5 months ago
@nazgulero
It's another fable you hear from certain politicians and mostly from some folks in society that never took an academic degree that requires looking for real proven evidence.
Start by googling the Reuters articles:
"Dutch top for healthcare despite low drug spending" (2008)
"U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study" (2010)
'Spinning' may be accepted by a majority of our population due to a lack of critical stands, yet it suggests the real motive is so immoral it needs a cover.
DianthaNota 5 months ago
@nazgulero I'm from Holland aswell, and I strongly disagree with your opinion on care in our country. Our healthcare system is not perfect, but it is most certainly better arranged than most. Maybe you should try live in the US and feel the difference.
Disclaimer to any patriot: I am not against the US, but I do know the lacking healthcare system, hence my comparison.
L1b3rta 5 months ago
@L1b3rta Well, I can only speak from my own experience. The main problem I have with Mr. Moore complaining about the health care system is the fact that he is the very reason why health care is so expensive. Grossly overweight people tax any health care system, and make it more expensive for everyone. I bet he cannot run for more than 100 yards without collapsing. It's a joke. If he sheds 150 pounds and THEN makes the documentary, he comes across as much more believable...
nazgulero 5 months ago
@nazgulero
Interestingly, being overweight is more common among those who vote for parties that defy the Dutch system and romanticise the American. Same with smokers. Ever heard of the right-voting overpaid babyboom generation?
Now that we are done with assuming over other people's life, it would be more interesting to see any arguments against the pragmatic approach of the Dutch system: it's the cheapest, high quality, available to all and ethical. Especially the first two you should like.
DianthaNota 5 months ago
@DianthaNota It's a common illusion that it's cheap. It's not cheap. You live in Holland, so you know how expensive everything is compared to the US. You pay the equivalent of 100 dollars for a pair of Levis jeans. The bills always have to be paid, no matter where you are. It's just that over here, people who make more money pay for those who make less. Is that ethical ? I am not so sure...it is almost like you are being punished if you want to make money.
nazgulero 5 months ago
@nazgulero That's a good point you make. It's a fair arguement why not to implement a social healthcare system for an obese country. Michael Moore definitely fits in with the other 30% of obese America. However, one must wonder, where does the 30% country's obese rating come from? How can 1/3 of a country become so fat? I mean, why are so many people addicted to fattening fast foods? And why do you see so many fat people in America, and nowhere else on the world?
L1b3rta 5 months ago
@L1b3rta I live in Holland, and there are just as many fat people around here as there are in the US. The shocking truth is that there is a direct relation between obesity and intelligence. Is our prime minister fat ? How many really fat CEO's do you know ? Mr. Moore should have started his documentary with: I am Michael Moore, I am way too fat, and I am the very reason our health care system is in trouble. If we all start taking care of ourselves better, health care becomes affordable for all.
nazgulero 5 months ago
@nazgulero I recommend the documentary: Super Size Me, to get a broader insight on this other controversial issue.
L1b3rta 5 months ago
I live in Peru, went through many rounds of chemoterapy and didn't have to pay a cent. even tough there are some fucked up things here , I'm kinda proud of my country =)
cesar1561 6 months ago 2
@cesar1561 I hope you got better...:). Obviously you do realize that even if YOU did not pay a cent, SOMEBODY paid your bills. That is what this whole discussion is about, who pays the bills. Are you ENTITLED to get something for free ? A car ? Food ? Health Care ?
nazgulero 6 months ago
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L1b3rta 5 months ago
@nazgulero So in other words, the system you want, boils down to: the sick get poor, the healthy remain wealthy. Not sure if you realise this, but it is a very unsocial and corrupt standpoint to go this route.
L1b3rta 5 months ago
@nazgulero
The system you think is better, actually isn't, not over the longterm (and especially at moments if economies go bad). The point of having a social system is that everyone contributes a small fraqment to lift the large domestic burden of healtcare (heard of the expression, many hands make light work?). With a privatised system, the sick would be forced to pay through their teeth. While the health remain rich and wealthy.
L1b3rta 5 months ago
@L1b3rta The entire 'problem' is largely exaggerated anyway. 46 million uninsured people, 10 million are not US citizens, another 17 million make enough (> 54,000 dollars) to get insurance but choose not do, which narrows the entire issue down to about 7 percent of the population. Which means: 93 percent does have health insurance. We are talking about the largest economy in the world here - get a grip people, don't get sucked into leftist anti-American rethoric.
nazgulero 5 months ago
@nazgulero If there is someone who should get a grip, it is you. You jump from subject to subject as soon as you haven't got a viable arguement to share anymore. Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away. And if people were anti-american here, than they would hate all americans. What people are frustrated about are American governments and health insurers, mr strawman much.
L1b3rta 5 months ago
@L1b3rta Well, who exactly is complaining ? There are many polls showing that the vast majority of Americans are happy with the care they receive, and the insurance they have. I think eventually it comes down to what the majority wants. If the majority wants change, change is going to happen. Anyway, what is your personal situtation ? Are you ill ? I am just asking because usually, people defend their own interests. And what part of the US do you know, where have you lived ?
nazgulero 5 months ago
@nazgulero Um, can you link me to these "polls" cause you just sound like you're being paid to say that, and then collecting market research at the end.
wallabyj 2 months ago
@nazgulero Yeah, that's still 21 million uninsured Americans...that's still a hell of a lot of people, (that's the pop. of Australia) myself included. I'm a white male, from the upper middle-class, college graduate, and I can't afford health insurance on top of EVERYTHING I have to pay, including an unconstitutional income tax that takes a fifth of my income. So, for four months of the year, I'm a slave to the government, and the Federal Reserve which is collecting on my labor. so ur right.
wallabyj 2 months ago
@wallabyj An unconstitutional income tax of 20 percent ? I don't understand...can you elaborate ?
nazgulero 2 months ago
$20,000 per round of chemotherapy. I had to go through 4 rounds.
sloort 6 months ago 3
Last week I went into hypoglycemic shock (I'm not diabetic so I had no idea what was going on, I just knew that something was wrong) and had to call an ambulance.
I was in the hospital for less than 3 hours and a few weeks later I get the bill for the ambulance+hospital visit. $600 dollars!!!
600 dollars for some orange juice and an uncomfortable bed to lay in for an hour. I must be the luckiest girl in the world!
-Love from Maine.
LuniaVideo 6 months ago
I actually don't have this massive fear of tax that a lot of people seem to have. I'd rather pay a lot of tax and get a lot of services for little cost. When he went to France I must admit though there were some services that I felt were unnecessary like someone coming to your house to do laundry when on mat-leave. So a perfect country in my eyes would be in between a Canada and a Scandinavia (simpler living)- more services and a better working life but not overdoing it on the little things.
leafs121688 7 months ago 4
@leafs121688 The scandinavian countries have the same as france, just even more...
heha1309 7 months ago
WELCOME TO GOP SECOND DEPRESSION
weirdscience1000 7 months ago
@ultimatedeathmetal i am all disgusted with the people who steal money and charge the little man, which is mainly the conservative party...if only our health care were more like Canada...
MrSideswipe13 7 months ago
Any and all government intervention is bad (very bad). The economy should be separated from the state in the same way that religion was separated from the state.
ChaosDynamics 7 months ago
Michael Moore for the Presidency. Americans may actually start being liked. What a terrible place to come from.
dominiccarter77 7 months ago 2
How much money did Moore make from SICKO ??
His views for the most part are alarmist, not totally accurate.
cheeriosinabowl 8 months ago
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Were you aware that filmmaker Michael Moore's agent in Hollywood is the Israeli, Ariel Emanuel, who is the brother of Rahm Emanuel? The Israeli sons of Ben Emanuel (a former member of the terrorist Stern Gang/LEHI) profited from Moore's controlled interpretation of the terror attacks. Incidentally, Rahm Emanuel was the driving force behind the passage of the disastrous NAFTA bill (under Clinton) that devastated the U.S. manufacturing sector, one of Moore's pet peeves.
LongLiveOx 8 months ago
Why aren't we getting top notch healthcare like the people in Guantanamo Bay?
xxDanielTM93xx 8 months ago 2
@xxDanielTM93xx dunno but idd say the irish and the blacks have to do with it :D
fruitconor 8 months ago
The slave trade that brought millions of Africans to the W. hemisphere was totally capitalist. They don't mention that when BSing on about it being the only free system in world history. The profits out of everything to do with slavery - from chains made in England to sugar grown in Brazil - helped England become the first industrial country. Ironic eht? So more power to Mike - and he should be careful because he has made powerful enemies. If he ever has an 'accident', be suspicious.
kitabwalli 8 months ago
I've seen this before but I'm getting to watch it in school again booyaaah
DaProtagonist 9 months ago
Coercive Sector Medical Care is criminal and all of the individuals upholding it should be charged as such. Everything should be voluntary, the opposite of criminal socialism.
The 56% of medical care that is part of the criminal, coercive sector is why there are problems with this service, not because of a lack of criminal coercion.
qwertypoiu4321 9 months ago
Michael Moore, wealthy obese anti-American peddler, lectures people on health care while stealing "free health-care" from socialist countries. The best is when he steals "free health-care" courtesy of the poverty ravaged nation of Cuba. What a hero LOL. What a joke, why isn't this guy in jail for stealing?
BlackRepublican2010 9 months ago
@BlackRepublican2010: Lol - maybe its because he did nothing wrong. Also, he speaks the truth. Sure, you CAN get cared for here in Amerikkka; but you get billed and so you owe for basically the rest of your life if you're poor. Yes, Amerikkka is a good nation...for the wealthy. I love it when rich Amerikkkans tell us to get out if WE don't like it when THEY have the money to leave.
TheKuroiSheep 9 months ago 2
@BlackRepublican2010 how can you steel something that is free?
sweetlips252 8 months ago
@BlackRepublican2010 Yes it's very sad when American's have to go somewhere else to get the healthcare they need. What a joke! I'm pretty sure he's not anti-America,just anti dickheads who rip poor people off. The only place on earth where the government don't give shit about its people. Wake up!
dominiccarter77 7 months ago
if an american claims they have better health care, respond to them with this:
"explain why we live longer, and then fuck off"
Superchickenman159 10 months ago
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@cokenpepsi484 Montreal is the place to go if you do come. Toronto sucks
smokenfly514 10 months ago
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It pretty obvious to most poor Americans that Republicans are simply greedy self centered racist with no moral ethics. They somehow think they are superior to the poor and that all they have was earned and discount their own advantages they luckily were born with. They've never walked in a poor mans shoes and aren't concerned with empathy for their fellow man.
TheOracleGreen 10 months ago
At least with universal healthcare it seems that people get a shot at care. But what chances do you have when you are denied health insurance because of pre-existing conditions or don’t meet requirements? One would think we all have the right to life, but it seems that only those with wealth and the ability to pay when ill have the right to live while the poor at the mercy of big companies should roll over and die. Humans - we pretend to care but all put self and greed first, even I do at times
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FactualSolutions 10 months ago
Sicko is nothing but a movie for a stupid audience. The fact that Moore could shame us Americans into thinking that by going to a Cuban Communist Potemkin village and extolling the virtues of Socialism with this farce propaganda movie is preposterous. The fact of the matter is that Cuba is a Fascist country and a one part police state. What we Americans have is far far better than the average $20 a month wage. Only the idiot Democrats could be duped by this two bit Communist, Michael Moore.
StefanZ17 10 months ago
@StefanZ17
republican moron...
ivanl1984 10 months ago
Moore was taken to a special Cuban hospital reserved for Cuba's elite. There are photos smuggled out of Cuba that show dilapidated hospitals with bleak rooms where patients have to hang clothes to dry on the windows, filthy conditions, floors covered with bugs, patients who are neglected and some who even starve.
*All the statistics coming out of Cuba are false.
*In Cuba, if a child dies a few hours after birth, they don't count it as ever having lived.
*US lifespan: 77 Cuba lifespan: 77.1
AmericanBadass44 11 months ago
@AmericanBadass44
You have to understand that the Democrats that typically eat this Michael Moore propaganda are truly Fascists at heart. Its known that Castro idolized Benito Mussolini in his younger years. The rest that do are idiots. This movie when shot in Cuba was just a Potemkin village.
StefanZ17 10 months ago
@AmericanBadass44 US lifespan is not 77, its 77.9 trust me. Canada is 81 though. just sayin!
lordrazr 7 months ago
For all you morons who think America's health care system is fucked up and the European and Canada system is better Canada is in the process of denying a 13 month old boy a transfer to a US hospital for treatment that could prolong his life. That's right a socialist health care system is playing god and not allowing the parents the decision on whats the best care for the child.
cjyount 11 months ago
@cjyount This is a special case and does not represent the entire health care systems of Canada or Europe. Unless the parents are doctors then they may not know what is best for their children medically and nobody is saying our systems are best but things need to change in the U.S. and our systems always need to looking to be improved and modified.
Proudgypsy 10 months ago
@Proudgypsy This has been reported multiple times throughout Canada and other universal health care systems. My point was any system you have is going to have flaws and to criticize the US health system without objectively looking at other systems is wrong.
cjyount 10 months ago
@cjyount The point about the child was good. But do you also care about the millions denied healthcare every day? When insurance companies refuse to cover an expense or deny people care for pre-existing conditions aren’t they also playing God so to speak? Plenty of US children are denied insurance... No system is perfect. The healthcare system in America is fucked up for a lot of people. I’m sure the healthcare systems in other countries are fucked up for a lot of citizens also.
ImNotRacistImBias 10 months ago
@ImNotRacistImBias I do care about children not receiving health care in this country but like I said earlier other systems have just as many problems as the US health care system. My point is you cannot add 40-60 million people to the health care system without seeing significant increases in cost. There are other ways to fix our health care system and make it a lot cheaper then trying to force people to go on the public option or fine them.
cjyount 10 months ago
@cjyount lol americans are funny. first off we have sick kids, which is the best hospital in the world for sick kids, so i have no clue wtf you're talking about. How many americans die from being denied healthcare? 50000 per year. every 17 seconds someone in the US goes bankrupt trying to pay their medical bills. sowhat you just posted would probably make sense to retard. so for a guy who who thinks this one case is an arguement for not having universal hc, u sir are a moron! dont be brainwashed
lordrazr 7 months ago
@lordrazr Before you criticize me you might want to learn how to write an actual sentence. I dont know where you got the 50,000 Americans dying per year but if you read my earlier statements I said our health care systems needs to be fixed. Universal health care is not the answer. There are a lot of problems with universal health care and I only pointed to one of them.
cjyount 7 months ago
@cjyount where i got it? its called research, cdc is where i got it. Besides what would be wrong with 2 tier? Would you have a problem with that? 50000 people a year is a lot, health for profit seems sooooo wrong and evil.
lordrazr 7 months ago
@lordrazr First those are estimates and other organizations such as federally chartered Institute of Medicine place the number around 22,000. The problem with a 2 tier system is the number of people who would be on it and the overall cost.
cjyount 7 months ago
@cjyount
'Canada' isn't denying a 13-month old boy transfer, they initially deny to pay excessive treatment abroad, specifically where doctors are overpaid.
The boy COULD get transferred. If the excessive costs are brought up by his parents alone- which is exactly the same that would happen if the boy was in the US system. He still gets the 'limited' treatment in Canada covered. Keep in mind this is a very specific case, not a system.
Hailing with sad kids was a Stalinist propaganda thing btw
DianthaNota 5 months ago
@DianthaNota Yes they are and if the Canadian health care system was about care and treatment then cost would not be a factor.
cjyount 5 months ago
Literally just got done watching the movie. It brought me to tears!!!! America is so fucked up it's not even funny. Michael Moore is a genius.
IrunROUNDlakeBITCH 11 months ago
@IrunROUNDlakeBITCH I agree! Michael Moore totally opened my eyes to this issue... He's great!
dancer8164 11 months ago
@ultimatedeathmetal yeah man, and their are very few who are privy to this whole bull shit, we need a revolution, and we will
MrTeddy236 11 months ago
@ultimatedeathmetal Well said!
Instrumental187 11 months ago
the term "socialized medicine" hits my eyes a lot lately. I never heard that expression before - are we considered as socialists or comunists now?
1976mariah 11 months ago
I'm only 40 but believe it or not I have arthritis in my right hip. I'm going to need hip replacement before I'm 45. Until then, I have to get physical therapy which costs $208 per session.
I'm a hard working person who only makes $11 per hour. My company gives me a lousy high deductible health care plan, which costs me $140 per paycheck. After that and taxes, my take-home pay is less than $8 per hour.
BRING ON THE FUCKING SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
StraightFashionMan 11 months ago
@StraightFashionMan well, I don't say that Univesal Social Healthcare we have in western Europe is great either.
Me and my girlfriend pay 250 euro's (or $340,-) a month for social healthcare, all I do is go to a dentist twice a year and my girl only has the birthcontrolpil with her insurance and we pay over 4000 dollars a year for it.
It's cheap when you're sick, because you can go to the docter every week, pills from a pezz-dispenser and a check-up at the hospital for the same amount.
madhat1979 11 months ago
@madhat1979
At least you have a girlfriend to help pay the taxes for your healthcare. I'm single and don't have a girlfriend.
StraightFashionMan 11 months ago
I cant believe how you let people die
emanuell2 1 year ago
If the government of the richest country in the world want's to suppress knowledge, they will. Keep saying Americans are dumb, but just realize what kind of power they have to submit to.
You want Americans to get a clue, and start fighting these filthy rich and powerful companies? You'd be better off establishing democracy in North Korea. The rest of the world needs to lighten up.
coolduderyan07 1 year ago
@coolduderyan07 Power? What power? Did you that the US has a shortage of 1,7 billion a day on it's trade balance? Countries like China and Saudi Arabia lend the US trillions just let you buy stuff.
If you can't see that this system is going to end soon you are dumb.
The day China can sell his "made in China" crap to his own citizens, they don't need the US anymore.
Why bother on 300 million americans who can't pay the bill if you have 1,4 billion costumers in your own country.
madhat1979 11 months ago
@madhat1979 What? My point was mutli-billion dollar companies run America...would you disagree with me? When the government continues to support them, capital runs the country. In turn, the man who can write the biggest check has the most influence.
If you can't see this, then you aren't dumb because I wouldn't stoop that low, you are ill informed.
coolduderyan07 11 months ago
@coolduderyan07 I get your point, the question is do you get mine?
Capitalism already rules America, that is the way the american people want to live, "the american dream".
But nobody seems to see that this isn't a way to do things, big manufactures open work places outside the US to make big profits, the result is almost 10% unemployment.
Big banks squeeze out home owners for huge profits and bonuses, result is that 1.1% of the american people is homeless, 10 times more than the EU avarage.
madhat1979 11 months ago
@madhat1979 Yes, I'm aware and understand your point. But the American people are brainwashed, and it's hard to recover from a way of thought that has been cemented in our minds. If the general population understood the harm being done, they would act. But they don't, and it isn't entirely their fault. Everything they see, hear, and take part in involves some sort of illusion. Take Britain for example they have REAL news, you get my point? We have lies. That's what we deal with.
coolduderyan07 11 months ago
@coolduderyan07 I spend my summer vacation on Curacao and all they have there is American tv channels, it scares the shit out off me.
So I get your point that the whole American society is bound in fear, but in some way you choose to live like that.
You think freedom means shopping in the mega-mall or sitting infront of a 120" TV watching Obama saying that everything is going to be just ok.
At the same time americans are more terrified about everything than every other western citizen.
madhat1979 11 months ago
I feel so bad for the Americans, thank god we have universal healthcare here in Austria. It´s true America is ruled by companies as someone mentioned here before. I mean this is crazy! I wonder how doctors can sleep well when they deny treatment... Folks wake up!
1976mariah 1 year ago
@ultimatedeathmetal Tell you what the problem is. People in your country aren't dumb enough to see what the politicians are doing.
You guys know it already. Totally agreed with everythign you said and mentioned.
Obamas healthcare that passed sucks ass:(. How are people going to get it if they can't afford?
Greed thats what it is.
wander1273 1 year ago
I uderstood the Hippocratic oath to mean that a doctor, any doctor, must treat ANYONE requiring medical care...? So how can Americans be refused life saving surgery over something as comparitively trivial as money?
I've had major spinal sugery, carpal tunnel surgery, appendectimy, specialised treatment for arthritis, osteonecrosis, heart murmur and high blood pressure - all for free. In America I'd be severely crippled or dead....
crocfme 1 year ago
I had both eyes operated on a few years ago, Cost me absolutely nothing.
Commiserations from Australia.
jimmywrangles 1 year ago
1:24 proof that americans are idiots, when they listen to this and laugh!! jesus
panosMIKLO 1 year ago
@panosMIKLO I roll my eyes and think to myself how could that asshole say that to her. Three jobs to make a living is crazy
eddo1983 11 months ago
AMERICA The land of the free (IS NO MORE!) it is now ,
AMERICA The Most Corrupt Country In the World.
matrixloader 1 year ago
haha, the song is from Brazil *_*
miladynana 1 year ago
J'ai beaucoup aimé ce film. Effarant pour nous français, mais tellement américain. La liberté de faire ce que l'on veut (payer ou pas une assurance) est sacro sainte mais c'est surtout la liberté de payer tout plus cher dans le meilleur des cas et mourir dans le pire des cas. . Les américains méritent leur système pourri en revotant republicain. Malheureusement, avec sarkozy, nous allons nous aussi vers ce système ô combien remunérateur pour les assurances privées.
DucDeNormandie1 1 year ago
In Costa Rica you pay 1 time for Social Security and you will have medical insurange for you and your family. If you want to go one medic apart, you can to pay it
Evenor48 1 year ago
A very, very sad history... It's strange how money can do so much bad, it's strange how much suffering capitalism can do. We are all united, doesn't matter if you are poor or rich, women or man.
A great movie and a great inspiration. It is strange that a revolution hasn't appeared in USA.
pillesnoop 1 year ago
@ultimatedeathmetal Yep, if you don't do what America does, you get slandered as a communist. If you dislike some of the actions of Israel, you are anti-Semitic etc tec.
blueray1969 1 year ago
POOR AMERICANS THEY JUST LIVE FRIGTHEN BY THEIR GOVERNMENT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SWIN FLU NOTHING JUST SCARE BY THE US GOV, JUST IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM BUY DRUGS AND MAKE RICHER AND RICHER THE DRUGS INDUSTRY WHY DON´T THEY INVEST IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY IN SPITE OF SPENDING ALL THE MONEY IN WEAPONS AND INVASIONS TO OTHER COUNTRIES I REALLY FEEL SAD FOR ALL THAT AMERICANS ....
gochorneahp1 1 year ago
@gochorneahp1 lol agreed america = driven by fear. i'm american and i get so fucking aggravated that you people get so fucking scared of everything like: mexicans, muslims, asians, naacp, obama, bush, palin, swine flu, guns, bombs, food, money, tax, government, bills, immigrants, europe, mexico, the border, the tv, internet, fox news. it's like get a fucking grip.
1234blahluv 1 year ago
@gochorneahp1 The problem is that we need to put something in law that independent voters can rely on.
The politicians really have screwed this country over. I know exactly what you're saying.
wander1273 1 year ago
Wikileaks has released documents from the Cuban government which explained why they banned the film in Cuba. They didn't want the citizens to see the healthcare they WEREN'T getting that Moore claimed they were.
The question becomes: Did he intentionally lie or was he simply blind to the truth of their sub-par healthcare due to his borderline-psychotic hatred of the U.S.?
octopibingo 1 year ago
@ultimatedeathmetal Everything you say is sensible but so many Americans are brainwashed exactly as you say.
MrHistoryman45 1 year ago
@ultimatedeathmetal Your news media runs a 30 second clip on US health care and 40 minute episode on new flower potting methods. Germany is a great country to live in, I have been there several times (and not just to munchen and frankfurt, my wife is a German citizen), unless that is you are middle eastern or for that matter from any country other than Germany. Oh and unless you are woman because you will never see a top management job. Brain washed are we? Keep kidding your self =)
Messier83 1 year ago
The conservatives are such hypocrites. When a woman decides to abort her baby, it's "murder" according to them, but when a baby dies because the parents can't afford health insurance they don't care.
michelrox 1 year ago
@michelrox Good point.
ADDodger 1 year ago
Wendel Porter, Michael Moore & Sicko...
The truth is out, it`s in the public domain in many many countries.
And that is good
PinkThinkingCat 1 year ago
bwahahhahah Cuba has BANNED 'SICKO' because people might actually think it's true and flock to get their 'free' healthcare!!!!!!!!!!!
Lies and more lies.
mahammadabba 1 year ago
bullshit, in Poland we have "socialists" health care system and it is the biggest failure our governments have ever done. Free market only
I have also a private insurance, which costs me less than the one I'm forced to buy and it absolutely outdoes the "socialists" one
bartuzi 1 year ago
@bartuzi Well it depends were you live when you get socialist medicine because some doctors don't like it and do everything in their power to make it fail because they would be making 3 to 4 times more if it were privatized! Youtube for "zeitgeist addendum".
boumar19721972 1 year ago
@ultimatedeathmetal thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!! we (americans) need to accept that
LawrenceFilmsInc 1 year ago
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UPDATE! Wikileaks says this movie was BANNED in Cuba for being "mythical" about the Cuban health care system.
YesWeCantaloupe 1 year ago
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UPDATE! Wikileaks releases info that "Sicko" was BANNED in Cuba for being "mythical," and "inaccurate" about the Cuban health care system.
YesWeCantaloupe 1 year ago
If you have money, US is the best system in the world, no doubt.
bambang303378 1 year ago
just saw the movie in which a personhad his finger chpped and paid 12000 $ for that.in pakstan he could hav it done in $300.
shahqwer1234 1 year ago
@Ianwalters42 wow sorry for being an american ill try to be a little less ignorant less time... what a prick
FL4KE5 1 year ago
The American system is one of the least accessible system in the world, and yet they tell us that American system is the best. The "socialist" systems of Europe we are told that they suck. The sad thing is that Americans believe so. No my dear Americans, "socialists" health care systems have been tested and proven to be better than the capitalist American system.,
Rasild7 1 year ago
@Rasild7, coming from an Albanian commenting on America's healthcare system, your opinion is worthless.
Later, loser.
mahammadabba 1 year ago
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Martin Luther King, Jr. once famously said, "of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and most inhumane."
NO society can legitimately call itself civilized if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means.
You Yanks shout to the world how GREAT you are yet there are 12 million uninsured children in the good old USA without access to Health Care.
Does that make you Americans feel PROUD?
Bloody barbarians....
IanWaters42 1 year ago
CYNToronto man don't feed the troll.
chadrageus 1 year ago
HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAhA Anyone who watches this propaganda film and actually believes what they are seeing is an idiot!!!
imax1971 1 year ago
@imax1971 Are you a fucking retard? Let's see, I live in Canada and I went to the hospital a week ago, two days ago and yesterday. The total amount of time I had to wait was 30 minutes. Now I'm in the proces of healing from pneumonia.
See what America would've given you two years back when your broke ass parents couldn't afford healthcare and you sliced off your hand with a door cause obviously you're a fucking retard. Maybe you could've asked Michael Moore for some health care payment LOL
CYNToronto 1 year ago
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You Americans disgust me.
You have been the world's superpower for 50+ years and you have had billions of dollars of revenue. You could have built a wonderful National Health Service for your people and no American would have had to suffer.
But instead you stupid yanks blew your wealth on luxury, cars, fancy homes, flashy clothes, gadgets, gimmicks, swimming pools, personal computers, etc etc..
Now there are 19 MILLION uninsured children in the USA!?!!?
USA = Nation of selfish assholes!
IanWaters42 1 year ago
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imax1971 1 year ago
The health care in Bulgaria sucks monkey fuck! :D
LucaTurilli89 1 year ago
I cant believe the Republicans/ conservatives dont want to move forward. TAXES= FREE HEALTHCARE
genereeper 1 year ago
i saw this movie today and i have to say im glad someone brought this to all the americans attention, and its a shame that some americans are still ignorant about it.
dboom101 1 year ago
i live in greece and actually they're changing the system from free health care to the american one, with the list of deseases that are not insured..they do one step at a time so that people do not rebel against it but man..how can they?!it's unbelievable!
Olivesandsweets 1 year ago
Canadian healthcare FTW!
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checksummedchest 1 year ago
I'm so glad moore made this film. I remember what it was like to watch my mom take time off of work -- unheard of! -- and spent three days on the phone with her health insurance company because they were dodging her and didn't want to get her treatment when she got cancer. She finally made them do it, but it was all a horrible thing to watch when you're twelve. That, and my mother has -excellent- health insurance and she's -rich-!
malimillions 1 year ago
steven, yes indeed a healty lifestyle helps, but there are plenty people who live very healty and get cancer or other diseases so what are you saying, no the system in the USA is wrong very wrong.
The United States spends more than twice as much on each person for health care as most other industrialized countries. But it has fallen to last place among those countries in preventing deaths through use of timely and effective medical care.
younghalen 1 year ago
@younghalen I just dont believe people get sick suddenly. There is always a bad lifestyle, diet or bad choices involved.
royalsteven 1 year ago
Therefore use only natural products. If you really want to save yourself, others and save the good industries. As a kind of statement, a big finger at the wrong industries. Wake up. You must be responsible for your own health but dont come complaining when it goes wrong by your own mistakes. If you do not understand this nothing will ever be changed.
royalsteven 1 year ago
Children are so fat, hmm it is because of the junk food and sugar? A simple cause and effect! But then some people really still think: I don't care! As long as it tastes good! Without thinking what they take in. Dumb herd behavior that the evil industries earn big bucks with. Deaths and illnesses caused by smoking costs the EU still one trillion euros every year! Regular shampoos, makeup and skin creams destroy our skin and health, food with pesticide, colourings and full of sugar too.
royalsteven 1 year ago
high but take no responsibility. They wont leave eat that extra cake, sweets, cigaret they just continue to destroy their own health and built up an higher health costs without knowing. Improper diet, alcohol, drugs are the reasons all kinds of illnesses and infections occur. Even cancer and diabetes. People wonder why they are so hyper and empty in their heads. Hmm maybe it is because you drink coffee (caffeine and burnt beans that can cause cancer) all day and smoke cannabis.
royalsteven 1 year ago
I am for free healthcare but also for prevention of bad lifestyle. Fortunately, more and more people wake up and realize what a mess they get theirselves in. I never understand why health costs have to be high. If you take better care of yourself and eat healthier, have a healthier lifestyle than you have lower doctors costs. A healthier lifestyle is less expensive. So simple. I do not understand why people do not get this. Always pointing the finger and complain why health insurance is so
royalsteven 1 year ago
@royalsteven I get it, yes the cigarettes is bad for ya,
so is the fatty food, and not exercise is also bad for ya,
but i do hope you watched the movie, which is all about profit
which company can save most dollars, and the bonuses they get is ridiculous
this is not about costs being high, is about paying into an insurance
all your life and when you get sick, they find a loophole to not treat you, thats the point.
izaccy 1 year ago
That's what I meant. They keep the costs high so they earn more. That's at least how it is with us.
royalsteven 1 year ago