@jasonsps78 It will work on motorcycle tires with white letters or narrow white walls, but even I do NOT recomend it. Even though I haven't had a single problem with this method, it's just not worth the risk on a bike. Losing a tire on a car is one thing, losing a tire on a bike means seruius injury or death.
If you do do this be very F#@&^% careful...if you buff into the actual black compound (not the veneer over the white but the actual Black Sidewall) you will have initiated a crack in the sidewall, so make sure you stop just below the veneer/sidewall junction. Also if you don't buff smoothly then you will have initiated 1000000 cracks into the white compound. And last but not least, the black/white interface will turn yellow quickly because the black still has (hopefully) 6PPD. Not worth it.
video looks backwards. like as if he is grinding the white wall off the tire to the black under neath rather than the black off to the white underneath.
the best way to make sure its perfectly round is by doing the exact same process, but have the wheel spinning on the back of your car while on a hoist or jack. just let it run in 1st gear by itself, far better result.
dumb question, does a 400-6 wheelbarrow tires have hidden whitewalls? i am customizing my club wagon that has wheelbarrow tires on them and was wondering if they have hidden whitewalls in them
@JeffTanko my dad has a caprice wagon with same engine as yours and it has a mechanical rad fan but also has a smaller electric fan on left side of rad but doesnt turn on .motor is good on fan but never turns on by itself,do you know what its for or why it wont turn on?
@cagonesss Sounds like he's got the towing package(being a wagon of course). The towing packages came with a mechanical fan instead of the standard twin electrics. I think, and I may be wrong, that the small electric fan is just an auxiliary fan that will only kick on if the engine gets way to hot. If the car isn't overheating, don't worry to much about it. Check out Impalassforum dot com for confirmation, it's a very knowledgeable forum, and they have an extensive wagon sub-forum.
When done correctly, this process DOES NOT weaken the tire. A tire's strength comes from the steel belts and cords in it's casing, not from the rubber. This is also the exact same process that that manufacturers use when they make wide white walls in production, I'm just doing it by hand.
Jeff , Was looking into putting 24s on my Cadillac El Dorado , But I want a white wall look on there with a 2 inch tire ... You think by any chance anyone makes tires like this or how would i go about getting this accomplished ?
i guess everyone to there own ,white wall tyres never really caught on out side of america ,i guess they look good on some cars,but would look a bit silly on others ,but anyway fair play to you for saving yourself some money ,good luck!
@KingDD3 Coker tire and Kelsey tire are good sources for factory made wide white walls. They carry both modern radial wide white walls and old style bias plys.
@stopglobalswarming YEAH MON! i just painted my rims red on my 77' chevy pickup. i looked up the price on the wide white wall tires...yikes. man. i love this youtube
if you lift the back if the car up with the tyer on the rim start the engine put it in geer and while it is spinning run your grinder on the tyer and you will have a smooth finish just make shure you care is sicure
@njguyzz21 well said good sir iv seen it my self..
JEFF!!! you are amazing im gettin a grinder to my tires tomorow im gunna have wide whites on an acura integra!!! allready got 14 inch steelies that are red!!! gunna look sick!
fuck man, i don't care what anyone says, this is a bad idea.
drive it on the back of a trailer for a classic car show or something, yes, drive it round town at a low speed at your own risk (and other peoples), but definitely don't do any long distance and/or high speed driving on these things...
To be honest, it probably wont blow out, but that's no guarantee. That 64th of an inch is there for a reason. Otherwise the tyre company would save the pennies. Make sure the white is rubber not canvas
@rkelsey2702 Hey kelsey, I have know guys who have done this for years and have searched the net as well. None of them have ever had a blow out, nor can I find anyone on the net that said they had one. I don't believe it's anymore dangerous than tires that have been curb burned down to the white. In reality, I believe that the tire company put the white on the tire so they wont have to change the production on the line. The black is there to just cover it. Otherwise, why put the white at all?
Good video I wouldn't listen to all the negative comments people have been cutting whitewalls forever. Unless you go way too deep this is fine your always
Gonna have a chicken shit telling you your not safe fuck em!!!!'
This is a really neat idea. I'm about to buy A 1950 dodge, i was looking sat coker tire thinking "How in the hell am i gonna pay for those, about $200 each tire.(and up) Im headin to the junkyard tomorrow for sure. Thanks man!
sweet grinder disk, what brand is that? mmm.. Im a girlie who likes good tools!
nice.
I know you are demo-ing but I hope thar normally you wear at least a articulate mask. I was an aviation structures mechanic and have gotten very ill from not using proper gear... just passing the word... so if anyone trys this at home, be smart.. this is the kind of stuff that can mess up your lungs.
I DO NOT recomend this process for motorcycle tires. Although unlikley, if a car tire were to blow out, you'd have a chance to get to the side of the road safely. If a motorcycle tire blows out, you can very easily end up dead. Bike tires are subjected to loads that car tires are not. Even I wouldn't try it on a bike tire.
Tires are the last point of contact. The only thing i would do with your tires is hang em by a rope off a tree! $800 aint to much when you consider what happens to a classic car/truck when cornering at speed and a blow out or delam occurs. Agree to disagree.
The strength on the tire comed from the cords or belts(as in "steel belted radial"), NOT the rubber. The rubber has almost no strength by it's self, and you're only removing a very small amount of it.
I tried it on my own by watchin your video and i used a 36 grid disc on the grinder and after i was done there were alot of black swirls how can i get em off cause the snaders not takin em off?
If the sander is not removing the black swirls, you may have ground to deep and are hitting the black layer under the white one. What grit are using on your sander following the grinder?
cool, i love retro look of white walls, not the tiny strip, but the big true walls. this would look beautiful on a reproduction 0f any 1930-1970-s model, or an original if i could ever afford one.
it will last you long enough untill the time you will change your tires if you dont drive in water, cold conditions, rocky or dirt or any off road train.
Most women do this naturally by the way they park, always scraping into the curbs when they park - ever see a woman who owns an SUV and has the lettering on the side of her tires - typically, that lettering gets all scraped off until you just see a white ring around her tire. ANYONE know what I'm talking about?
I tried this and it worked ok! I decided to buy blemish tires online, which worked out much better. when i did the technique on a white letter tire, it worked great, except for the unevenness of the white band itself. the whitewall tires i used next were not good. the whitewalls ended up being sort of a crown on the sidewall, which was tough to even out and make even. the blem tires i bought online were pretty perfect, plus they were $48. let me know if you want to know the web address.
I assure you, they are from a salvage yard. They are low mile take off tires from wrecked vehicles. I get them from Star Autp Parts in Janesville, WI, and average around $15 per tire. If you'd like, I can e-mail you a picture showing the reminants of the blue marker on the sidewalls that the yard uses to label them. The tag on the one tire lables it as mine since I call ahead to have them pulled when I get them. New tire stickers are also much more rectangular than the tag on this one.
so to do this to a regular tire would not work cause its all black underneath .. i need to ask for a narrow white wall or raised white letter tire is that correct .. also are these hard to come by for a VW Beetle ?
i had no idea either, i figured someone would find this interesting and useful, now are you going to turn your Lincolns White walls into wide whites? :) i am just wondering if my new tires, there 31" DOMINATOR A/S tires, they have OWL Outer White Letters, i am wondering if there is white rubber under the black inserts? then i can make them look like RWL Raised White Letters?
I'm considering it, but idk how it would look, probably cool as hell :) I' m gonna take a side pic of my Lincoln & then take it to the paint program & see how they would look :)
All whitewalls will yellow eventually if they aren't cared for. The sets I've done have stayed white, but I scrub them clean using "Bleech-White" a few times a year.
For some reason I can't help to agree with the tire guys. Those tires have those layers for a reason as insignificant as it seems that layers is there for a reason. Why not buy the white wall inserts?? A set of four set you back about 40-50 dollars. You cant even tell that those are inserts. I have a VW Bug and those things are used alot. Plus you save time and labor.
Again, this is how white walls are made at the factory, we're just doing it by hand. The strength of the tire comes from it's cords and belts, not the rubber. I personally will never use those inserts or "Port-O-Walls". They are made for stiff sidewall bias ply tires. Because of the amount that radials flex, they will eventually wear grooves deep into the sidewall. They also have a history of flying apart at highway speeds when they start to age.
I can't recomend that. It may work, but it would be difficult and time consuming, not to mention dangerous. You obviously would do that at your own risk. A better solution would be to sand it by hand with course sand paper. Using a blade just seems like a bad idea.
but can i do it by rising the car by a jack and make a Friction between the tire and knife or some thing? cause i don`t have these stuff.......and thax.
It's pretty neat if your not gonna drive on them alot but for daily drivers this dude is fuckin stupid. I am a tire tech at a local National Tire and Battery, and belive it or not that 1/64th of an inch is there for a reason. Scientist and highly skilled pros design most tires and thats why there made how they are. You start to fuck with them then they start blowing out. You can do it if you want but what the fuck ever.
As long as the tire has white letters or a narrow white wall, it will work. with a low pro, you will probably want to practice on a junk tire first because the white stripe under the black may not be very consistant leaving you with a wavy white wall. As always, you do it at your own risk.
I work for a tire plant in MT vernon call general tire/ continal tire north america only if they new they could just take the tires that have bad with side wall letters that are either chewed up to much from the grinder they could sell those and make money but we scrap them they need to see this video and relize they could sell thim as wide with wall's
Does ths work for motorcycle tires as well?
jasonsps78 1 week ago
@jasonsps78 It will work on motorcycle tires with white letters or narrow white walls, but even I do NOT recomend it. Even though I haven't had a single problem with this method, it's just not worth the risk on a bike. Losing a tire on a car is one thing, losing a tire on a bike means seruius injury or death.
JeffTanko 1 week ago
If you do do this be very F#@&^% careful...if you buff into the actual black compound (not the veneer over the white but the actual Black Sidewall) you will have initiated a crack in the sidewall, so make sure you stop just below the veneer/sidewall junction. Also if you don't buff smoothly then you will have initiated 1000000 cracks into the white compound. And last but not least, the black/white interface will turn yellow quickly because the black still has (hopefully) 6PPD. Not worth it.
greiteneis 3 weeks ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I don't know man, something about grinding the outside of my tire that scares the shit out of me. I think I'll just buy 'em.
d0ck47 3 weeks ago
video looks backwards. like as if he is grinding the white wall off the tire to the black under neath rather than the black off to the white underneath.
halobboy 3 weeks ago
really man, :D cool
peeweet123 1 month ago
Thats sum cool shit, can u do that with any tires or just white wall?
Ruben254h 2 months ago
@Ruben254h Only with tires that have white letters or a narrow white wall already.
JeffTanko 2 months ago
ooh hillbilly technology..neat
wreckageyears 2 months ago
Did he say it takes a few hours? The video was only like 6 minutes long !!!! HOW DOES HE DO IT
612ZtoMhS 3 months ago
@612ZtoMhS
you my friend are a complete idiot
RRReid294 2 months ago
@RRReid294 well as long as we're friends thats all that matters :')
612ZtoMhS 2 months ago
Haha, im kinda disappointed. You have to start with a tire that has some white to begin with.
PhysicsOfCombat 3 months ago
cara como faz isso?
p4uslista 3 months ago
wont the white fall out of the rest of the tire
Kevinsstuffful 3 months ago 2
that is awesome mate
MrTamiya89 4 months ago
Nicely done on the tutorial! I have a 63 Thunderbird that could really use some fat whitewalls. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
Cheers!
VertigoGTI 4 months ago
fantastic video, I really have always liked white walls.
Thom in Scotland.
fuelban 7 months ago
GREAT SAVE OLD TIRES thank you jjdbeagles
poodledavis 7 months ago
Could this be done without a powered tool? Say, with sandpaper...? 8D
Commando303X 7 months ago
@Commando303X Yes, but it will take you a REALLY long time.
JeffTanko 7 months ago
Would this work on both sides of the tire? Or just one...
neilyoungster 10 months ago
I don't know man, something about grinding the outside of my tire that scares the shit out of me. I think I'll just buy 'em.
Vanrocco66 10 months ago 18
the best way to make sure its perfectly round is by doing the exact same process, but have the wheel spinning on the back of your car while on a hoist or jack. just let it run in 1st gear by itself, far better result.
sparkedsnipe 10 months ago
dumb question, does a 400-6 wheelbarrow tires have hidden whitewalls? i am customizing my club wagon that has wheelbarrow tires on them and was wondering if they have hidden whitewalls in them
SpiritsoftheWolf 11 months ago
@SpiritsoftheWolf
Only if the tire already has white letters or a narrow white wall. If the tire is all black, you're out of luck.
JeffTanko 11 months ago
@JeffTanko, hahaha, that's what i figured, wasn't sure, owell, guess i'll have to make my own whitewall.... by spray paint
SpiritsoftheWolf 11 months ago
@SpiritsoftheWolf
There are some paints that work fairly well. I've had decent results with the Krylon Fusion, although it checks up over time.
JeffTanko 11 months ago
@JeffTanko my dad has a caprice wagon with same engine as yours and it has a mechanical rad fan but also has a smaller electric fan on left side of rad but doesnt turn on .motor is good on fan but never turns on by itself,do you know what its for or why it wont turn on?
cagonesss 10 months ago
@cagonesss Sounds like he's got the towing package(being a wagon of course). The towing packages came with a mechanical fan instead of the standard twin electrics. I think, and I may be wrong, that the small electric fan is just an auxiliary fan that will only kick on if the engine gets way to hot. If the car isn't overheating, don't worry to much about it. Check out Impalassforum dot com for confirmation, it's a very knowledgeable forum, and they have an extensive wagon sub-forum.
JeffTanko 10 months ago
the same effect can be achieved by trying to tightly park next to a high jagged curb on a narrow steet over a few years. :)
dogcaught 11 months ago
I'd rather pay the 1000 for new tires...
patdirtbikin 11 months ago
Ehh, won't you have a blow-out with weakened tires??
wurft 11 months ago
@wurft
When done correctly, this process DOES NOT weaken the tire. A tire's strength comes from the steel belts and cords in it's casing, not from the rubber. This is also the exact same process that that manufacturers use when they make wide white walls in production, I'm just doing it by hand.
JeffTanko 11 months ago
Jeff , Was looking into putting 24s on my Cadillac El Dorado , But I want a white wall look on there with a 2 inch tire ... You think by any chance anyone makes tires like this or how would i go about getting this accomplished ?
2014NikeSwoosh 11 months ago
i guess everyone to there own ,white wall tyres never really caught on out side of america ,i guess they look good on some cars,but would look a bit silly on others ,but anyway fair play to you for saving yourself some money ,good luck!
kevrs2 1 year ago
i dont care what anyone says, they need to make whitewall tires a fuckin standard on cars again.
JamesPriceJohnson 1 year ago
Jeff, wondering if you have tires for sale ?
stonemusic23 1 year ago
Jeff, wondering if you have tires for sale ?
stonemusic23 1 year ago
@stonemusic23
No, I do not make or sell these for anything, just for my personal use.
JeffTanko 1 year ago
throw it in a wheel and set the car up on jack stands let the car turn the tire so all you do is sit and grind!!!
SouthernDoom666 1 year ago
If you don't wanna put the time into making your own white wall tires where's a good place that you could buy some for your modern car?
KingDD3 1 year ago
@KingDD3 Coker tire and Kelsey tire are good sources for factory made wide white walls. They carry both modern radial wide white walls and old style bias plys.
JeffTanko 1 year ago
thats exactly what i want to do, take a saw to my tire. :D
KarstonLikesMustangs 1 year ago
Hey thanks for helping real rat rodders save some money. Rat rod is about looking good with what you've got and what you can scrounge up. good job.
stopglobalswarming 1 year ago
@stopglobalswarming YEAH MON! i just painted my rims red on my 77' chevy pickup. i looked up the price on the wide white wall tires...yikes. man. i love this youtube
knottyrich 1 year ago
Wow. Great job!!!
gotshirts2ink 1 year ago
Never set the grinder down on the disk!!!!!!! Always lay the grinder on its side........
01po01po 1 year ago
Thumbs up if white wall tires will come back!
juralkable 1 year ago
I like your hair very much!
fr0nage 1 year ago
whyd i watch this.....i cant even drive
iforgotmyusername43 1 year ago
Can you grind the tires if they are still mounted on the rim? Or is it better to remove them from the rim?
kreapz 1 year ago
@kreapz I've found it's easier off the rim, but it can be done on the rim. You've got to be careful not to hit the wheel.
JeffTanko 1 year ago
You Are A Legend Only If I Had Your Tools. I Got 2 & 1/2 Inch White Wall Tires. They Cost $185 A Piece
Ghetto187Murda 1 year ago
if you lift the back if the car up with the tyer on the rim start the engine put it in geer and while it is spinning run your grinder on the tyer and you will have a smooth finish just make shure you care is sicure
ils360 1 year ago
wow, times are tough down in the trailerhood. lol
12josejalapeno 1 year ago
Ha Ha Ha, ghetto whitewalls, I love it!
ultramegabob2 1 year ago
is that even safe??
Show757 1 year ago
Very Kool. You're quite an Artist :o)
ozgood1x 1 year ago
@njguyzz21 well said good sir iv seen it my self..
JEFF!!! you are amazing im gettin a grinder to my tires tomorow im gunna have wide whites on an acura integra!!! allready got 14 inch steelies that are red!!! gunna look sick!
SouthernDoom666 1 year ago
Haha. Yeah being able to see through the disc is really useful.
Idiotsmakemesad 1 year ago
the edges arent straight enough, looking at the tire goin down the road youd get dizzy lol
bajabilly2004 1 year ago
Man! Once you stop talking and get started with those tools, you are QUICK!
cmans79tr7 1 year ago
Thats sweet
NorkiddExo 1 year ago
@jefftanko chek my video when you have a chanse
peladetoparati 1 year ago
awesome!
cierasky 1 year ago
fuck man, i don't care what anyone says, this is a bad idea.
drive it on the back of a trailer for a classic car show or something, yes, drive it round town at a low speed at your own risk (and other peoples), but definitely don't do any long distance and/or high speed driving on these things...
To be honest, it probably wont blow out, but that's no guarantee. That 64th of an inch is there for a reason. Otherwise the tyre company would save the pennies. Make sure the white is rubber not canvas
rkelsey2702 1 year ago
@rkelsey2702 Hey kelsey, I have know guys who have done this for years and have searched the net as well. None of them have ever had a blow out, nor can I find anyone on the net that said they had one. I don't believe it's anymore dangerous than tires that have been curb burned down to the white. In reality, I believe that the tire company put the white on the tire so they wont have to change the production on the line. The black is there to just cover it. Otherwise, why put the white at all?
POPPASHANGO 1 year ago
wow man that turned out pretty nice. Smart, too.
markkjay 1 year ago
Good video I wouldn't listen to all the negative comments people have been cutting whitewalls forever. Unless you go way too deep this is fine your always
Gonna have a chicken shit telling you your not safe fuck em!!!!'
mistermemo82 1 year ago
white walls are for jobbers!
peterod82 1 year ago
the question i was thinking is why the hell not just buy a tire with a white wall. they do still make them. then no smelling like shit after
repostlouis314 1 year ago
$800 VS. $60 and a few hours time is why.
JeffTanko 1 year ago 36
@JeffTanko I am a tire dealer... and FINDING wide white wall suppliers is almost impossible
kwind1000 1 year ago
@JeffTanko actually 150$ in australia..
DjDefurity 3 months ago
@repostlouis314 True but their EXREMELY expensive and plus those expensive ones kinda fade away fast..
katieducky23 1 year ago
@repostlouis314 for one thing because they don't make 'm in many sizes.....I've been looking for some 215/50 17's for days now, nada!
Jayskiallthewayski 1 year ago
@repostlouis314 if u ask that question....then why are u watching this video.
knottyrich 1 year ago
This is a really neat idea. I'm about to buy A 1950 dodge, i was looking sat coker tire thinking "How in the hell am i gonna pay for those, about $200 each tire.(and up) Im headin to the junkyard tomorrow for sure. Thanks man!
Modeyefied 1 year ago
sweet grinder disk, what brand is that? mmm.. Im a girlie who likes good tools!
nice.
I know you are demo-ing but I hope thar normally you wear at least a articulate mask. I was an aviation structures mechanic and have gotten very ill from not using proper gear... just passing the word... so if anyone trys this at home, be smart.. this is the kind of stuff that can mess up your lungs.
mgarviso 1 year ago
very cool, do all tires have an underlying white layer or just the ones with a white stripe? OR any tire with white lettering?
Imagine some white walled BFG all terrains, that would be really funny!
aubinoe2 1 year ago
The tire MUST have white already showing, either a raised white letter or narrow white wall. If you don't see white, there is none there.
JeffTanko 1 year ago
can this be done on motorcycle tires?????
vinaicar009 1 year ago
I DO NOT recomend this process for motorcycle tires. Although unlikley, if a car tire were to blow out, you'd have a chance to get to the side of the road safely. If a motorcycle tire blows out, you can very easily end up dead. Bike tires are subjected to loads that car tires are not. Even I wouldn't try it on a bike tire.
JeffTanko 1 year ago 2
nice mad skill bro
DudeWithaPage 1 year ago
just remember burning rubber is one of the last things you want to be inhaling.
inflames625 1 year ago
Tires are the last point of contact. The only thing i would do with your tires is hang em by a rope off a tree! $800 aint to much when you consider what happens to a classic car/truck when cornering at speed and a blow out or delam occurs. Agree to disagree.
bradgotch 1 year ago
Good if you dont plan on driving your car! What a tight ass!
bradgotch 1 year ago
I average 20,000 miles a year on this car. Good for you if you want to spend $800 on tires. Personally, I'd rather put it towards something else.
JeffTanko 1 year ago
awesome!!! I want to do this on my Park Avenue!
NosloTC 2 years ago
great video jeff this will sure save me tons of money on white walls thanx a lot man.
eldeadbeat 2 years ago
what a hassle
jeepers2655 2 years ago
A few hours of my time is worth conciderably less than the $600 extra I'd spend on "real" whitewalls.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
Would this work on something like the Bridgestone Accolade Motorcycle Tire?
inragedtwitch 2 years ago
that seems kinda sketchy....doesnt it weaken your tire?
Nathalian987 2 years ago
The strength on the tire comed from the cords or belts(as in "steel belted radial"), NOT the rubber. The rubber has almost no strength by it's self, and you're only removing a very small amount of it.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
i used a 36 grid disc for the grinder and 80 grid sand paper on my orbital sander
PBRmann 2 years ago
I tried it on my own by watchin your video and i used a 36 grid disc on the grinder and after i was done there were alot of black swirls how can i get em off cause the snaders not takin em off?
PBRmann 2 years ago
If the sander is not removing the black swirls, you may have ground to deep and are hitting the black layer under the white one. What grit are using on your sander following the grinder?
JeffTanko 2 years ago
cool, i love retro look of white walls, not the tiny strip, but the big true walls. this would look beautiful on a reproduction 0f any 1930-1970-s model, or an original if i could ever afford one.
mattybock 2 years ago 2
thats kinda cool but i have a faster, easier, safer, cleaner way to do this...
all you need is a paint brush and some white paint.
try that next mr.redneck...lol
sepehrkosari2008 2 years ago
I've yet to find a paint that won't either crack, flake, peel, or yellow. There is no paint that will last on a car that's actually driven.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
it will last you long enough untill the time you will change your tires if you dont drive in water, cold conditions, rocky or dirt or any off road train.
sepehrkosari2008 2 years ago
whats with the disrespect?
twitchsix20five 2 years ago
how did i disrespect you???
sepehrkosari2008 2 years ago
dude u should wear a gas mask while burning up all that rubber that shit could fuck u up!
safwan19 2 years ago 5
good info though!!
safwan19 2 years ago
Most women do this naturally by the way they park, always scraping into the curbs when they park - ever see a woman who owns an SUV and has the lettering on the side of her tires - typically, that lettering gets all scraped off until you just see a white ring around her tire. ANYONE know what I'm talking about?
njguyzz21 2 years ago 72
@njguyzz21 yep I know EXACTLY what you're talking about. lol
bingbong609 1 year ago
@njguyzz21
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Ignitiongt 1 year ago
@njguyzz21 yup, and i always was wondering how that could happen, turns out...well, you see how.
knottyrich 1 year ago
@njguyzz21 hahahah !not just the tire! also the bumper, doors...
chuchupangpang 1 year ago
thats kinda cool.
haha i wouldnt trust the tire under load and pressure, but i'd definately try this some time!
MyDarkWorldX 2 years ago
Where can I find these grinding discs with holes?
zepepe13 2 years ago
Don't Know. Mine are leftover from years ago. I think 3M and Norton make a similar product.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
I tried this and it worked ok! I decided to buy blemish tires online, which worked out much better. when i did the technique on a white letter tire, it worked great, except for the unevenness of the white band itself. the whitewall tires i used next were not good. the whitewalls ended up being sort of a crown on the sidewall, which was tough to even out and make even. the blem tires i bought online were pretty perfect, plus they were $48. let me know if you want to know the web address.
glib11 2 years ago
cool vid, i wanna try that on some old white letter BF radial TAs
DBlazer85 2 years ago
Comment removed
menacemann 2 years ago
put these bitches on a 64 impala
ITPsandstar 2 years ago
LOL
LAProdeje 2 years ago
dude seriusly,put gold dayton rims inside them and bolt them on a low rider =D
ITPsandstar 2 years ago
HELL YEA
LAProdeje 2 years ago
ive got a Triumph Bonneville (cafe racer style) and wouldl ove to have white wallks on them!
..dont think they are white under tho :(
good post anyway :)
peepintom08 2 years ago
I buff white walls for a livin.
does anyone know where i can buy a machine?
elcodude621 2 years ago 2
thats nice
pontiacg6freak732 2 years ago
thanks man building a trike and will work great
Boots1956 2 years ago
thats really nice man
marcopolopizana 2 years ago
PIMPING
ivedigga 2 years ago
hi, they looks great
one thing but, seeing the tyres still have the stickers on them and heaps of tread - i think they are brand new - not old and crusty as u say
mattvps 2 years ago
I assure you, they are from a salvage yard. They are low mile take off tires from wrecked vehicles. I get them from Star Autp Parts in Janesville, WI, and average around $15 per tire. If you'd like, I can e-mail you a picture showing the reminants of the blue marker on the sidewalls that the yard uses to label them. The tag on the one tire lables it as mine since I call ahead to have them pulled when I get them. New tire stickers are also much more rectangular than the tag on this one.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
my apologies then mate
mattvps 2 years ago
so to do this to a regular tire would not work cause its all black underneath .. i need to ask for a narrow white wall or raised white letter tire is that correct .. also are these hard to come by for a VW Beetle ?
has anyone done this just like the video ?
menacemann 2 years ago
Comment removed
sp00nEg6 2 years ago
what kind of tires do i need?
builtfordguy 2 years ago
I had no idea all that white was there in a tire o.0!!!
pickupman1995 2 years ago
i had no idea either, i figured someone would find this interesting and useful, now are you going to turn your Lincolns White walls into wide whites? :) i am just wondering if my new tires, there 31" DOMINATOR A/S tires, they have OWL Outer White Letters, i am wondering if there is white rubber under the black inserts? then i can make them look like RWL Raised White Letters?
BRENTHENRY1989 2 years ago
I'm considering it, but idk how it would look, probably cool as hell :) I' m gonna take a side pic of my Lincoln & then take it to the paint program & see how they would look :)
pickupman1995 2 years ago
Comment removed
BRENTHENRY1989 2 years ago
Cool.
Grinders & my 11 lbs Sledge Hammer,
are my favorite tools!
I've got Snow tires on my old Mustang II
& use it for off-road.
Deo Vindice!
rebelstang 2 years ago
As my response three comments up states, no, the sidewall MUST have white showing on it.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
do thay become yellow ??
B20teg 2 years ago
All whitewalls will yellow eventually if they aren't cared for. The sets I've done have stayed white, but I scrub them clean using "Bleech-White" a few times a year.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
do they have to have a white ring already?
can it be done on plain black tires?
VeinsX3 2 years ago
They MUST be narrow white wall, or raised white letter tires. All black tires will NOT work.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
yeah its look ugly and the silicone become yellow ^_^
khaled6100 2 years ago
what about using white Silicone?
its easy to use & easy to remove..
khaled6100 2 years ago
If it sticks to the rubber it might work ok. You might have trouble getting it on smooth enough so that it looks nice.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
For some reason I can't help to agree with the tire guys. Those tires have those layers for a reason as insignificant as it seems that layers is there for a reason. Why not buy the white wall inserts?? A set of four set you back about 40-50 dollars. You cant even tell that those are inserts. I have a VW Bug and those things are used alot. Plus you save time and labor.
edisl 2 years ago
Again, this is how white walls are made at the factory, we're just doing it by hand. The strength of the tire comes from it's cords and belts, not the rubber. I personally will never use those inserts or "Port-O-Walls". They are made for stiff sidewall bias ply tires. Because of the amount that radials flex, they will eventually wear grooves deep into the sidewall. They also have a history of flying apart at highway speeds when they start to age.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
i think i will do it by a razor
khaled6100 2 years ago
I can't recomend that. It may work, but it would be difficult and time consuming, not to mention dangerous. You obviously would do that at your own risk. A better solution would be to sand it by hand with course sand paper. Using a blade just seems like a bad idea.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
oh man i love it
but can i do it by rising the car by a jack and make a Friction between the tire and knife or some thing? cause i don`t have these stuff.......and thax.
khaled6100 2 years ago
pretty cool if you have a unfinished project that you are looking to see if white walls will look any good on it.
175myles 2 years ago
I can't drive....25
transdrole 2 years ago
Have you had any failure on the road or anything this is very interesting
rally1234me 2 years ago
It's pretty neat if your not gonna drive on them alot but for daily drivers this dude is fuckin stupid. I am a tire tech at a local National Tire and Battery, and belive it or not that 1/64th of an inch is there for a reason. Scientist and highly skilled pros design most tires and thats why there made how they are. You start to fuck with them then they start blowing out. You can do it if you want but what the fuck ever.
mattf9285 2 years ago
"I am a tire tech at a local National Tire and Battery"
But he is the one who "is fuckin stupid", LOL
centraldetroit 2 years ago 3
10 bucks remember... there worn out any ways what do you expect.. 1/64th of an inch is not going to matter much
BIONDIEST 2 years ago
" I am a tire tech " aka I can spin lugs and take a tire off. " Derrr that 1/64th was put there by a scientist ma ". Your parents must be proud.
jeffrey410banks 2 years ago
wow tomorrow Im going to buy a load of old tires at the junkyard and make them a whitewall to sell on ebay!
DarthWater7 2 years ago
Making them to sell might not be the best idea. If a tire ever fails for any reason at all, you will likely take the blame because you "modified" it.
JeffTanko 2 years ago
wow
borntorun1981 3 years ago
interesting
bobmillerbob 3 years ago
WOW THANKS HARLEYBAYO
harleybayo 3 years ago
if i saw black through my white wall i would throw that tire away!!!
wheeliestunter 3 years ago
Great tutorial!!
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
dees that work for any tire?? Even super low pro?
zimdogg4 3 years ago
As long as the tire has white letters or a narrow white wall, it will work. with a low pro, you will probably want to practice on a junk tire first because the white stripe under the black may not be very consistant leaving you with a wavy white wall. As always, you do it at your own risk.
JeffTanko 3 years ago
Well this one beats the kid I seen painting the white on his tires with a brush..
berkelusa 3 years ago
That is awesome!
rpeek 3 years ago
I work for a tire plant in MT vernon call general tire/ continal tire north america only if they new they could just take the tires that have bad with side wall letters that are either chewed up to much from the grinder they could sell those and make money but we scrap them they need to see this video and relize they could sell thim as wide with wall's
mccunecp 3 years ago
thank you
bbccaprice89 3 years ago
tyre treds does it in hayward.(510)581-3378
elcodude621 3 years ago
Tried it and it works! Thanks Jeff!
irayte 3 years ago