Maazel Beethoven Symphony No.7 4th mov (World fastest!?)

[bregsonmitchell]

Brilliant!!!

[ilmaestro18]

Someone obviously had a plane to catch.

[MsTheconductor]

Where the hell on earth do you find such movements written these days ! I am a big fan of Beethoven

[Szixy100]

Nagyon virtuóz, de szerintem túl gyors ahhoz, hogy élvezni lehessen a dallamokat benne.

[ModellMeister]

i lve it!!! i hate slow music! Beethoven is best!! fast, and usually violent, FTW!!

[klavierspieler72]

Let me tell you naysayers something. Maazel is a superb conductor who can galvanize any orchestra in doing his bidding. He is without peer in so much repertoire. It is fast; but it is certainly not boring. I heard him do this with the New York Phil about six years ago, and the intensity of intent and, at the same time, brio of the performance is invigorating. Not like those idiotic "early-instruments" groups who play fast because no one can stand listening them play too long! Maazel rocks!

[gtelloz]

Fast doesn't mean boring necessarily. This is actually fast and boring, don't know why. I have a recording by Noseda and the BBC Phil wich is faster but exciting...a different thing...

[dongiavanni]

who are you people to take one mov out of context and to judge about the tempo???

If it´s really him,he has his point for sure. He doesn´t do anything without a reason.

[LordMgls]

Hey man! Take it easy!

Maazel is very good with Puccini, but although this tempo is quite nice in some parts, it isn't justified in some parts.... I can't give this more than 4*, already considering Mr Maazel's wonderful work and the rarity of such a strange (and sort of wrong) interpretation of humouristic Beethoven.

[Champion1179]

I do not understand nothing....this is everything else than Beethoven

[fansclubnicolalecca]

I quite like B 7th fast but this is quite too much...

[Classicalguy12]

Too fast Maestro Maazel....although he is one of my favorite conductors. Except for this :(

[chingli88]

This is so fast.

[changjiang001]

Dudamel is the same speed.

[ThaSchwab]

Have you ever heard his Beethoven 9 (Finale)? It's incomprehensibly fast and difficult to follow.

[changjiang001]

he is not my favorite conductor, probably because he is too young, His Beethoven is not persuasive at all, and he just likes to play the 5th, 7th and 9th symphonies. these three symphonies are the most popular works of Beethoven, however, I bet that he dare not perform "eroica" because that's too difficult for him. He just used the enthusiastic modern methods to perform Beethoven's music which obviously lacks inside sprits and musical logic.

[changjiang001]

(continue)You see, that's why he dare not touch Brahms's, Schumann's, or Bruckner's works, as he cannot express the German and Austian music in the implicit way. He rally has a long way to go...

on the other hard, his Mahler is OK, but just OK.

[ThaSchwab]

We're talking about Dudamel here, right? This rendition is actually a very good one.

[medmai]

@changjiang001 maazel has conducted all the relevant repertoire, all. i think that if someone is in the business for so logn at top level there will be a reason, no?

[Classicalguy12]

figures.

[Classicalguy12]

figures

[changjiang001]

草你妈的B

[changjiang001]

滚蛋，白吃！

[GERICHLOH]

...Lützows wilde verwegene Jagd... Bravo !

[roosta0013]

I tried to conduct along to this but my hands wouldnt move that fast. :)

[Classicalguy12]

this would be conducted in cut time my friend :)...lol.

[hopeast]

màs aplausos porfavor

[Sinfoniette]

I haven't heard the Toscanini's interpretation of the B. Symphonies, but he's a great Beethoven conductor. And famed to be really fast.

[eppurs1muove]

Actually Karajan's faster. And even more perfect than Kleiber.

[Nachtmarchen]

Perfection is subjective, the only Karajan Seventh I found worthwhile was the 50s one withe the Philharmonia Orchestra all the other ones are atrociously rushed and blurred in the finale, lacking all the irritating, cathartic weight of the 50s Karajan, E&C Kleiber, Leibowitz or even Harnoncourt Sevenths. The phrases of Karajans 60s version feel hacked off, the balance between the high and low strings is seriously off, the whole thing feels too light it misses the character of the piece.

[nickfox2]

Fast and boring, because it's misrepresented as being purely in 1, rather than there being a struggle between the surface pulse of 2 and the deeper pulse of 1. Simply check Kleiber for the epitome of excitement in this movement, and nearly as fast.

[jabsomdoc]

i think this is actually pretty good. sure, i don't think it matches kleiber, but this interpretation is reasonable.

[deandusk]

then you must like celibidache ?..

[congrang]

I think Maazel did a pretty good job letting the audiences hear most of the notes, I assume you are a Celibidache fan, so you should know what I mean by saying let the audience hear every note.

[nickfox2]

I don't see how my comment has anything to do with Celibidache, or quite what you mean by "letting the audience hear most of the notes." I think Maazel makes a serious error in judgment in this performance, as he so often does, and it has nothing to do with the nominal tempo. It has to do with his understand of the multifarity of rhythmic activity in the music. His understand of "excitement" has to do solely with the metronome, rather than the thrill of engaging with the musical content.

[8cccpeevostokzempf]

George Szell was Kng of The Metronome his cranking of The Cleveland used to drive me nuts.

[scootahairymandog]

dam thats pretty quick