Travis made a mistake in this match; halfway through Dave asks him " ready to go " and Travis answered " yes ", and then it was just one way traffic after that.
@bscutajar foul or not i think it helped Dave stop the initial power surge. the question u should ask yourself is how much further would Travis have taken Dave's arm down if Dave hadn't raised his elbow.? It would have been a little extra even a tenth of an inch but probably a lot more and who knows where the match could have gone from there.
@Typenice you may have a point there. but on the official rules of armwrestling it says that if no ground is gained by the elbow foul the competitor is only given a verbal warning.
Denis has been relying on his strength to carry him from match to match, if he ever focuses on technique he will be #1, and another thing, had the Brzenk/Cyplenkov match been LEFT-hand, Brzenk would've gotten put down like a child, Denis could still come back at another match and dominate Brzenk,but DAVE has one thing in his favor, his height and arm length, tall people are favorable in arm wrestling, but still, even if Denis'es technique improves only a little, he will be hard to beat
As a matter of fact, they did go left handed as well. Denis won, yes he put down John quickly. I can't remmeber much I think Denis just went gently and won in a second. I read online that Denis is going to the Arnold Pull which is in February/March. I also read that his trainer said he needed 3-4 more months of training to beat Brzenk. 3-4 months brings us to the Arnold Pull! I would still put money n Brzen over Denis then though.
i wouldnt go that far... john trains both hands... many armwrestling greats regard him second only to travis bagent left... but all in all id like to see the match
Yes he is left handed and is ranked #1 in the world with his left arm. However, he is ranked 5th in the world with his right arm so to say his right arm is nothing is kind of retarded, to put it mildly.
I agree it would be interesting, but Cyplenkov is even too much of a man for even Randall!! Cyplenkov outweighs him by at least 20 pounds.....Cyplenkov has massive hands that engulf anybody else's hands. Randall overpowered Bagent, but Randall can never overpower a man like Cyplenkov. It would be an interesting 10 - 20 seconds! LOL!!
John Brzenk toprolled Denis and won easily. Dave used to be a toproller. At the AAA Nationals last year he went toe to toe with Tim Bresnan in a toproll (they were even and then slipped after a few seconds). Tim was nearly able to toproll Denis. Within the last year, Dave has crushed Ron Bath, Todd Hutchings, and Tim Bresnan with his shoulder roll - none of them lasted more than 1 second. Brzenk also beat Denis in a hook so I doubt Denis could stop Randall's shoulder roll.
Nope I am talking about Denis CYplenkov, the 312 lbs (142 kg) beast with 23.6" arms and 19.something forearms. You did see Brzenk beat him, right, twice, once with hook and once with toproll? And Tim Bresnan flopped Denis's wrist back once. So Randall could probably beat Denis, it'd be a good match, though. Denis isn't unstoppable... he is ranked 6th in the world with his right arm and 2nd with his left.
well, the only match i saw btween bresnan and denis.....bresnan lost to denis. I did see the matches between Denis and Brzenk.....I'm left handed, so I mainly focus on left handed matches. I already said Brzenks days of beating Cyplenkov are numbered. Denis crushed everybody with left without any problem. He crushed almost everyone with right! The only reason he didn't beat Brzenk(right) is he still knows very little about armwrestling. That will change soon. Where was Bagent?
Bresnan got Denis's wrist flopped back in their first match but simply could not get his arm down. Look up Travis Bagent vs. Tim Bresnan on here. If Tim can even put up a fight against Denis (which he did) then Bagent would take him out for sure. Now this is right handed, I am sure Travis could take him lefty as well UNLESS Denis's left wrist is far stronger than his right. And, Denis has been armwrestling off and on for 9 years and has a coach, he knows more than people give him credit for.
You've lost me completely. There is a new video somebody posted on YouTube recently. It is of Denis' LEFT HANDED domination of EVERYBODY.....of course Bagent is nowhere to be seen....anywhere! One this clip they also show Brzenk and Bresnan. Denis beat Bresnan EASILY! The only person Denis did not beat was Brzenk....right handed. You should check this one out....finally somebody posted it. Cyplenkov is the next legend in armwrestling....sorry!
I don't understand where you got lost. It's funny that Tim Bresnan was on the lef thanded clip when Bresnan does NOT COMPETE LEFT HANDED!!! Are you thinking of Christian Binnie? Sorry, I have seen Brzenk beta him both times like 6-7 times, and saw him and Bresnan, both matches, him against Taras, I saw every single match Denis has been in in the last year. Multiple times. "Where was Travis" can you read? I already told you why Travis wasn't there. Posted 14 hours ago as of now.
LOL Not a prayer? Did you see Brzenk beat Denis? The first match he dumped Denis's wrist easily. Tim Bresnan dumped Denis's wrist. Say what you will about John's toproll vs. Travis's toproll, but if Tim Bresnan can dump Denis's wrist, Bagent can for sure and without his wrist Bagent will take Cyplenkov to the pad. On the Northeastboard John Brzenk said Denis was a lot weaker than he expected. He hooked in the second match to make it closer. Bagent > Denis right and left (for the time being)
dont dis this guy... hes right... im a huge brzenk fan dont get me wrong... but denis is alot stronger that john,(except hand and wrist maybe) but denis is new thus john controlled denis without him even knowing it. give denis some training and so table time and the match may be different... or maybe not who really knows
imo although Liliev's ranked #4 right now he's actually #1. It's right for him to be ranked 4th until he beats Pushkar, Brzenk, or Larratt, but I think he'd beat them all. 187 at Worlds? That's no challenge for him, and that's scary because nobody should walk through Worlds. Left handed the competition should be good for him though.
I don't think Bagent can beat Cyplenkov.....at all in any kind of way. I've read a few blog posts where people are asking what happened to Bagent in this last Nemiroff. He didn't show up. Why not? Was he afraid to meet Cyplekov? Do you know what happened?
Yeah, usually the people who put on Nemiroff pay Bagent just to show up. This year they refused to after what happened in the Bagent vs. Larratt match (Bagent was pretty much a dick). Maybe Bagent was afraid, the thought has crossed my mind. Then again, he didn't go cower in the corner when Alexey Voevoda and John Brzenk were both there. Judging by how easily Brzenk toprolled Denis I am sure Bagent could toproll his right arm at least. Bagent is one of the best toprollers ever.
johns toproll is ten or eleven thousand times better than bagents... the only way bagent pins anyone is because he fast... if you catch him before the pad he is screwed
I don't know man. It may be better but both of them are probably top 5 for greatest toprollers ever. And at Zloty 2005 in the overall final, Bagent didn't even go fast against Andrey Antonov, he just let Andrey go and started at him and then put him down easily. At the ROTN this year he went against Michael Todd and did not hit, Michael caught him and put his shoulder behind his arma nd Bagent easily went through it. Michael Todd was ranked 10th in the world until just this week, 11th now, so.
huh i will have to call michael and ask him... or maybe his son josh... mike probably wont wana talk about it... i never said bagent wasnt good... i felt his arm it seem essenially immovable at micheals wedding over a year ago... but still when you talk about the elites travis has to hit or he wont pin any of them... take a look at some of his matchs... he false starts 90% of the time
Michael Todd said he could maybe beat Bagent in a 100 round supermatch, through endurance. At ROTN in best of 5 Bagent was completely dominate over him. Bagent beats Tim Bresnan without hitting. There's a video on here of them going. They went again in April 2008 and it was pretty much the same thing. Sure Travis relies on speed but to say it's all he has is crazy. Even without his incredible speed he beat Tim Bresnan who is ranked 8th in the world. And Bagent is ranked 5th right now with speed.
ive seen tim bresnan pull to. he is a great puller. but he lost to dave randall. However when i say speed you dont get what i mean. you dont have to flash someone to use speed. if travis gets in a good position first it would be hard for anyone to pin him. a simple quick crank of the wrist and the match is essitianlly over for the most part. thats all i ment
Yeah I haven't seen nearly enough videos of Randall. I guess I'm too cheap to pay for arm tv , I wish someone would just upload videos :P Same with Cleve Dean, only 1 armwrestling clip on youtube. It would also be nice to see vids of him from WSM!
I know Randall is sliding his elbow here but for a split second it looks to be in the air, I could be wrong though.
I don't think they pulled recently - Brzenk beat Randall without difficulty at the overall at the Harley Pull in 1997. If they pulled recently, I think they would go back and forth - except 2006 when John was essentially untouchable.
randall against brzenk... tough call... im sure randall could pin him once or twice... but i think brzenk is to smart to loose in a super match to randall
You're probably right... I would like to see Randall more often a good match might be him vs. Richard Lupkes, Lupkes would probably win though it'd be a good match I think...
Magnus wouldn't have a chance if he was similar to his past competitive level. Now if he took two or three years off to train for arm wrestling alone, who knows? Then again, the same can be said for any large person with good genes and great self-discipline.
dave randall, really nice guy. He was at the 2006 florida state tournment that i competed in. He beat cleve dean, jim battles(i think), and todd hutchins, but was evenutally over taken too many times by todd hutchins. It was a good day for todd.
yes..you would be like a child in his arms...he would make you feel less than an man..I am sure he would scare you into submission..imagine that strength, that power, that dominance...
Travis has said in the past " before you talk to john, you gotta talk to Dave"
Thats mad cred. its a shame guys like Cleave Dean (RIP), Johnny Walker, Jhon Breznk, Dave and some others gotta get old
shutyourazz 1 month ago
0:07 BEAST MODE ENGAGED!!!!
TheSamswam 2 months ago
arm foul
cody0126a 5 months ago
Love the Grunt of Bagent at the start.....
chrisconnell 6 months ago
lmao who's your daddy XD
q8altair12 8 months ago
later on travis destroyed randall and beated VOEVODA TOO IN a tournament in canada i guess.it is in the movie pulling john in 2009
masterpatric07 9 months ago
@masterpatric07
bagent beated voevoda in the world final's 2003, this video was in 2004, so you are wrong
pedroyamato 8 months ago
Travis made a mistake in this match; halfway through Dave asks him " ready to go " and Travis answered " yes ", and then it was just one way traffic after that.
delboy723 10 months ago
Travis Bagent is a Lefty! Watch his left-handed matches
istanbulluyum34 1 year ago 2
"Oh yeah! who's your daddy!" -personally, Dave really DOES look like he could be Travis's daddy, hehe..
thefanaticx 1 year ago 4
donks
mairsy100 1 year ago
randall might be bagents daddy but Devon larret is randells daddy hahaha
MrDancalvin1983 1 year ago
lol every time i see bagent laughing when he loses ... thats coool :D
minamagedzz 1 year ago
Every bagent video I see he loses and a bunch of losers like you guys make excuses for him.
TubesteakNikka 1 year ago 4
dude his elbow was off the pad quite a bit.
TheMightykaz 2 years ago 12
Dave's elbow came up right at the beginning. Isn't that a foul?
Typenice 3 years ago 28
yes it was foul but sometimes the referee don't see them
fiorearmwrestler 3 years ago 4
yep but noone see it and he won :) he is master
RezoChigogidze 2 years ago
@Typenice no because no ground was gained from his perspective. an elbow foul is only a foul is he gains some advantage off of it
bscutajar 7 months ago
@bscutajar foul or not i think it helped Dave stop the initial power surge. the question u should ask yourself is how much further would Travis have taken Dave's arm down if Dave hadn't raised his elbow.? It would have been a little extra even a tenth of an inch but probably a lot more and who knows where the match could have gone from there.
Typenice 7 months ago
@Typenice you may have a point there...
bscutajar 7 months ago
@Typenice you may have a point there. but on the official rules of armwrestling it says that if no ground is gained by the elbow foul the competitor is only given a verbal warning.
bscutajar 7 months ago
bagent would beat denis quite comfortably
captainmorts 3 years ago
Denis has been relying on his strength to carry him from match to match, if he ever focuses on technique he will be #1, and another thing, had the Brzenk/Cyplenkov match been LEFT-hand, Brzenk would've gotten put down like a child, Denis could still come back at another match and dominate Brzenk,but DAVE has one thing in his favor, his height and arm length, tall people are favorable in arm wrestling, but still, even if Denis'es technique improves only a little, he will be hard to beat
undergroundbasement 3 years ago
As a matter of fact, they did go left handed as well. Denis won, yes he put down John quickly. I can't remmeber much I think Denis just went gently and won in a second. I read online that Denis is going to the Arnold Pull which is in February/March. I also read that his trainer said he needed 3-4 more months of training to beat Brzenk. 3-4 months brings us to the Arnold Pull! I would still put money n Brzen over Denis then though.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
i wouldnt go that far... john trains both hands... many armwrestling greats regard him second only to travis bagent left... but all in all id like to see the match
Jay6yo 3 years ago
did any of u guy's know hes left handed? his right hand is nothing so no wonder he lost
sdeevooo 3 years ago
Yes he is left handed and is ranked #1 in the world with his left arm. However, he is ranked 5th in the world with his right arm so to say his right arm is nothing is kind of retarded, to put it mildly.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
Dave Randall against Denis Cyplenkov, I would like to see that one
undergroundbasement 3 years ago
I agree it would be interesting, but Cyplenkov is even too much of a man for even Randall!! Cyplenkov outweighs him by at least 20 pounds.....Cyplenkov has massive hands that engulf anybody else's hands. Randall overpowered Bagent, but Randall can never overpower a man like Cyplenkov. It would be an interesting 10 - 20 seconds! LOL!!
khalsasikh 3 years ago
John Brzenk toprolled Denis and won easily. Dave used to be a toproller. At the AAA Nationals last year he went toe to toe with Tim Bresnan in a toproll (they were even and then slipped after a few seconds). Tim was nearly able to toproll Denis. Within the last year, Dave has crushed Ron Bath, Todd Hutchings, and Tim Bresnan with his shoulder roll - none of them lasted more than 1 second. Brzenk also beat Denis in a hook so I doubt Denis could stop Randall's shoulder roll.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
I think you are thinking of someone else. I am talking about Denis Cyplenkov.....the russian beast!
khalsasikh 3 years ago
Nope I am talking about Denis CYplenkov, the 312 lbs (142 kg) beast with 23.6" arms and 19.something forearms. You did see Brzenk beat him, right, twice, once with hook and once with toproll? And Tim Bresnan flopped Denis's wrist back once. So Randall could probably beat Denis, it'd be a good match, though. Denis isn't unstoppable... he is ranked 6th in the world with his right arm and 2nd with his left.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
well, the only match i saw btween bresnan and denis.....bresnan lost to denis. I did see the matches between Denis and Brzenk.....I'm left handed, so I mainly focus on left handed matches. I already said Brzenks days of beating Cyplenkov are numbered. Denis crushed everybody with left without any problem. He crushed almost everyone with right! The only reason he didn't beat Brzenk(right) is he still knows very little about armwrestling. That will change soon. Where was Bagent?
khalsasikh 3 years ago
Bresnan got Denis's wrist flopped back in their first match but simply could not get his arm down. Look up Travis Bagent vs. Tim Bresnan on here. If Tim can even put up a fight against Denis (which he did) then Bagent would take him out for sure. Now this is right handed, I am sure Travis could take him lefty as well UNLESS Denis's left wrist is far stronger than his right. And, Denis has been armwrestling off and on for 9 years and has a coach, he knows more than people give him credit for.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
You've lost me completely. There is a new video somebody posted on YouTube recently. It is of Denis' LEFT HANDED domination of EVERYBODY.....of course Bagent is nowhere to be seen....anywhere! One this clip they also show Brzenk and Bresnan. Denis beat Bresnan EASILY! The only person Denis did not beat was Brzenk....right handed. You should check this one out....finally somebody posted it. Cyplenkov is the next legend in armwrestling....sorry!
khalsasikh 3 years ago
I don't understand where you got lost. It's funny that Tim Bresnan was on the lef thanded clip when Bresnan does NOT COMPETE LEFT HANDED!!! Are you thinking of Christian Binnie? Sorry, I have seen Brzenk beta him both times like 6-7 times, and saw him and Bresnan, both matches, him against Taras, I saw every single match Denis has been in in the last year. Multiple times. "Where was Travis" can you read? I already told you why Travis wasn't there. Posted 14 hours ago as of now.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
okay, man. You know best.
khalsasikh 3 years ago
travis hasnt a prayer right handed... but hes stands a decent shot left
Jay6yo 3 years ago
LOL Not a prayer? Did you see Brzenk beat Denis? The first match he dumped Denis's wrist easily. Tim Bresnan dumped Denis's wrist. Say what you will about John's toproll vs. Travis's toproll, but if Tim Bresnan can dump Denis's wrist, Bagent can for sure and without his wrist Bagent will take Cyplenkov to the pad. On the Northeastboard John Brzenk said Denis was a lot weaker than he expected. He hooked in the second match to make it closer. Bagent > Denis right and left (for the time being)
HandelandJ 3 years ago
dont dis this guy... hes right... im a huge brzenk fan dont get me wrong... but denis is alot stronger that john,(except hand and wrist maybe) but denis is new thus john controlled denis without him even knowing it. give denis some training and so table time and the match may be different... or maybe not who really knows
Jay6yo 3 years ago
Denis has been armwrestling off and on since 1997.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
I reckon Liliev is going to be a serious contender for the number one slot ..within some time.He's improved tremendously.
SDSen 2 years ago
imo although Liliev's ranked #4 right now he's actually #1. It's right for him to be ranked 4th until he beats Pushkar, Brzenk, or Larratt, but I think he'd beat them all. 187 at Worlds? That's no challenge for him, and that's scary because nobody should walk through Worlds. Left handed the competition should be good for him though.
HandelandJ 2 years ago
@HandelandJ You really think Liliev could beat Larratt?
kasparov9 8 months ago
I don't think Bagent can beat Cyplenkov.....at all in any kind of way. I've read a few blog posts where people are asking what happened to Bagent in this last Nemiroff. He didn't show up. Why not? Was he afraid to meet Cyplekov? Do you know what happened?
khalsasikh 3 years ago
Yeah, usually the people who put on Nemiroff pay Bagent just to show up. This year they refused to after what happened in the Bagent vs. Larratt match (Bagent was pretty much a dick). Maybe Bagent was afraid, the thought has crossed my mind. Then again, he didn't go cower in the corner when Alexey Voevoda and John Brzenk were both there. Judging by how easily Brzenk toprolled Denis I am sure Bagent could toproll his right arm at least. Bagent is one of the best toprollers ever.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
johns toproll is ten or eleven thousand times better than bagents... the only way bagent pins anyone is because he fast... if you catch him before the pad he is screwed
Jay6yo 3 years ago
I don't know man. It may be better but both of them are probably top 5 for greatest toprollers ever. And at Zloty 2005 in the overall final, Bagent didn't even go fast against Andrey Antonov, he just let Andrey go and started at him and then put him down easily. At the ROTN this year he went against Michael Todd and did not hit, Michael caught him and put his shoulder behind his arma nd Bagent easily went through it. Michael Todd was ranked 10th in the world until just this week, 11th now, so.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
huh i will have to call michael and ask him... or maybe his son josh... mike probably wont wana talk about it... i never said bagent wasnt good... i felt his arm it seem essenially immovable at micheals wedding over a year ago... but still when you talk about the elites travis has to hit or he wont pin any of them... take a look at some of his matchs... he false starts 90% of the time
Jay6yo 3 years ago
Michael Todd said he could maybe beat Bagent in a 100 round supermatch, through endurance. At ROTN in best of 5 Bagent was completely dominate over him. Bagent beats Tim Bresnan without hitting. There's a video on here of them going. They went again in April 2008 and it was pretty much the same thing. Sure Travis relies on speed but to say it's all he has is crazy. Even without his incredible speed he beat Tim Bresnan who is ranked 8th in the world. And Bagent is ranked 5th right now with speed.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
ive seen tim bresnan pull to. he is a great puller. but he lost to dave randall. However when i say speed you dont get what i mean. you dont have to flash someone to use speed. if travis gets in a good position first it would be hard for anyone to pin him. a simple quick crank of the wrist and the match is essitianlly over for the most part. thats all i ment
Jay6yo 3 years ago
Ok, gotcha. Makes sense.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
bagent has a family and job, like all arm wrestlers, why wasnt devon here? they will meet up some time im sure ;P
raikkonen85 3 years ago
Money on Dave with right hand. But it'd be a good match.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
what a load of shit
dont really stand a chance when your opponent is hanging off the fucking table
JSSV 3 years ago
looks like travis got a taste of his own trash talk medicene.
bigstace38 3 years ago 5
Yeah I haven't seen nearly enough videos of Randall. I guess I'm too cheap to pay for arm tv , I wish someone would just upload videos :P Same with Cleve Dean, only 1 armwrestling clip on youtube. It would also be nice to see vids of him from WSM!
I know Randall is sliding his elbow here but for a split second it looks to be in the air, I could be wrong though.
whatevertsunami 3 years ago
doesn't anyone notice Randall's elbow foul?
whatevertsunami 3 years ago
No... where is it?
HandelandJ 3 years ago
yes
deemfingtee 3 years ago
WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!!!lmao
fatsmut 3 years ago
Randall beasted Bagent and I saw him destroy Ron Bath, too... how does he stack up against John Brzenk?
HandelandJ 3 years ago
I don't think they pulled recently - Brzenk beat Randall without difficulty at the overall at the Harley Pull in 1997. If they pulled recently, I think they would go back and forth - except 2006 when John was essentially untouchable.
gman22guns 3 years ago
Okay. Thanks.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
randall against brzenk... tough call... im sure randall could pin him once or twice... but i think brzenk is to smart to loose in a super match to randall
TEAMARKANSAS01 3 years ago
You're probably right... I would like to see Randall more often a good match might be him vs. Richard Lupkes, Lupkes would probably win though it'd be a good match I think...
HandelandJ 3 years ago
how about magnuz samuellson?? against some of these guys???
timtheguy 3 years ago 8
Magnus wouldn't have a chance if he was similar to his past competitive level. Now if he took two or three years off to train for arm wrestling alone, who knows? Then again, the same can be said for any large person with good genes and great self-discipline.
gman22guns 3 years ago 2
hes right up there but he might get beat by brzenk bagent randall todd bath... you know the badasses
TEAMARKANSAS01 3 years ago
lmao @ "now whos your daddy?" randall is a monster!
armbender2 3 years ago
Dave is the man!
PHW15 3 years ago
Yeah, take that Bagent! That looked lake a false start on Bagent, too.
HandelandJ 3 years ago
How does Travis' left hand still stack up against everyone...because after all, that is his dominant side.
ChameleonMood 4 years ago
everybody knows u can go up against travis left hand even randall would go down easy in left
armwrestling23 3 years ago
travis is viewed as the best left handed. not to many folks here would disagree i think
TEAMARKANSAS01 3 years ago
once again Travis gets owned. Who is that other cat?
halothor 4 years ago
dave randall, really nice guy. He was at the 2006 florida state tournment that i competed in. He beat cleve dean, jim battles(i think), and todd hutchins, but was evenutally over taken too many times by todd hutchins. It was a good day for todd.
trashbash2001 4 years ago
dave is a beast...
TEAMARKANSAS01 3 years ago
6'7"? Yikes! I wouldn't stand a chance against him! I would be like a child in comparison armwrestling a big strong man!
bf6067 4 years ago
yes..you would be like a child in his arms...he would make you feel less than an man..I am sure he would scare you into submission..imagine that strength, that power, that dominance...
nismoz31turbo 4 years ago
hight aint got a thing to do with it. its training... your will to be the best.
TEAMARKANSAS01 3 years ago