@texasrangersr1 F15E was very good in cold war now its very old and cant match any jet of 4,5th gen.This is why F15 is not more in combat service, but yes F15 is very effecient fighter they should modernize more F15 and dont put lagging shit like F35,F18 or F22.
Is there any case that a multirole strike fighter variant will come out from the BM?I mean something LIke a 2 seat plane designated kinda like Su-35BMMK?
im just so confused they show a Su-35s aka Su-35bm on the ground and its cockpit then in the air they show a Su-27M original Su-35 with canards or its a Su-30m2 someone know whats up with that?
@Aminodaff yes russian weaponry is good but to say that our friends are slaves is a little off my anti - american friend are you brother or brother of ARMS?
I think that American soldier shouldnt die in foreign countries.... that is only what I want to say.... when Obama was gonna become a president, he promised that US troops would leave Iraq and Afganistan... people believe him...but after inauguration he sent 10.000 people..... WAR IS USELESS.... SPARE US SOLJAS...
@Aminodaff war is ba but at times well at witch side your on you can see as to why we are there but war is never good for any one only time will show the good of war
@laksh20 Su-35 is indeed a great aircraft, but it can not handle 5th gen figthers. The Irbis-e radar may be good, but if the RCS on the F-22 is the size of a marble, then there is no way it will be picked up on radar at 90 km.
@laksh20 It is not finished, it just a pre-production aircraft, the real T-50 will be flying in 2015-2016.
The claimed RCS of the T-50 is 0,5 m2, the same as the B-2 bomber. The F-22 will be much harder to see on radar, yet, the T-50 will be more maneuverable.
@JVC7400 RCS of Su-35C is from 0,5 to 1,0 m2...as for PAK FA so it is claimed its RCS will be less than 0,01 to 0,05...a bit better than F-35 but worse than F-22A...but PAK FA should be more maneuvreable then these two...
@JVC7400 well, F-18E for example has RCS 0,75-1,0m2 too...and its weaponry is outside too...but everybody (I mean american experts talk about its RCS as 0,75m2)...as for my opinion it is all the propaganda as from russians as from pentagon...the same is with the F-22A, F-35, PAK FA, J-20...all these planes will never have a battle against each other only in a global war but the issue is the prestige!
@FXWorldBeater frontal RCS of the first F-15 is 25m2, frontal RCS of the first Su-27 is 22m2...frontal RCS of F-15SE is 0,5-1m2, frontal RCS of Su-35C is 0,5-1m2...and don`t speak nonsense about "1000m2"...it will be much better you just shut your dirty mouth up and never speak the things you do not know.
I didn't say 1000m2 i said MANY thousands. Don't tell me that you believe a flat panel with a surface area of 1m2 has an RCS of 1m2.... if that's so, I'd suggest you do not talk about this subject until you learn the basic fundamentals.
The specular RCS of an aircraft tail 2 x 2.5m (smaller than the flanker's) at 11GHz (X-band) is around 53dBsm which equates to roughly 199,000m2 at a 90 degree angle of incidence.
@FXWorldBeater here is too small place to reply based on physics laws but I`ll try to do this...RCS of panel with a surface area of 1m2 has less than 1m2...it depends on angles and materials at first...next - low RCS of the planes doesn`t give absolute and big advantages for battle without the use of the electronic warfare...Without hindrances reduction RCS in 1000 times reduces range of detection only in 1000 ^ (1/4) ~ 5,62 times in comparison with usual plane+++CONT+++
@FXWorldBeaterBut at correct statement of hindrances reduction of range of detection becomes to proportionally square root from decrease RCS,the law of change of range of detection from RCS, this enormous advantage changes: at correct statement of hindrances reduction RCS in 1000times reduces range of detection in 1000^(1/2)~ 31,62 times in comparison with the usual plane covered with same means EWarfare and even more in comparison with usual plane,not covered even means of EW...
@FXWorldBeater next is that you don`t have any fundamental knowledges to speak such a shit about "thousands m2 of RCS of F-27"...according to your logic the thing with the square 10m2 can have RCS more than 100000m2 for the radars...it is nonsense! +++cont+++
@dobrovolets777 RCS of Su-27 in its maximum has 22m2...change the materials inside the plane and change the covering of surface with the same construction and its RCS can be reduced to 1 or less than 1m2...
@dobrovolets777 lol, look at you trying to sound technical and providing formulas which are completely unrelated to the FACT I mentioned about RCS.
I was not talking about detection range, learn the terminology. A target object with an RCS of 53dBsm is generally spotted at the maximum range of any radar. A 10m2 surface has an RCS of 1,000,000m2 BTW or 60dBsm.
Stealth materials generally result in a 10-15dBsm decrease in RCS. 43dBsm is still detected at maximum radar range
@dobrovolets777 Don't bother pretending you know anything about this subject with your irrelavant posts about different subjects, littered with formulas you don't understand.
I use RCS software ever day, you simply have no chance of winning an argument with me on this subject .... in your head, with your completely incorrect understanding of how it works you might, in reality you just look silly to anyone who knows the subject matter.
@FXWorldBeater you told before you would not speak to me if I would say wrong BUT you did...and I talked about the correlation of radar detection capacities and RCS of the plane according to this theme but not off-topic as you did...you speak about nonsense...if I am wrong - point where my words were wrong...Su-27 RCS is 22m2 - it is the FACT...and I don`t bother about dBsm coz this topic is not about this...so just shut up and don`t troll...
@dobrovolets777 This image is from a technical paper presented by Sukhoi's Pogosyan himself in regards to the RCS reductions from the old Su-27 to the new RCS reduced Su-35.
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Your 22m2 frontal RCS Su-27 is there on the left...(22m2 was frontal, its side RCS is over 50m2...they discarded the usual massive spikes at 90 degrees) the 5m2 is right there on the right.
@FXWorldBeater 50m2 but not "thousands" as told before...as for Su-35C there are another materials and covering, another blades of turbine, another radar station and so on...you don`t need to think that the designer of Sukhoi so stupid...
@dobrovolets777 "I can ad also that according to Pogosyan the frontal RCS of F-22A is not less than 0,1-0,3 m2...so who is right?"
Simple logical equation .... Pogo has access to real flankers, but does not have access to real F-22's...etc. Which information is likely to be more accurate.
"RCS of panel with a surface area of 1m2 has less than 1m2"
So here is an RCS polar plot using physical optics RCS calculation of a 1mx1m pec plate taken at 11GHz for you to cry over. Perpendicular to the plate the RCS spikes at 40dBsm. The RCS in m2 = 10^(40/10) = 10,000m2 RCS.
tinyur l. com/7copte5
The RCS of the plate doesn't fall to 1m2 until the angle of incidence is lower than 60 degrees.
@dobrovolets777 "when you told it is more than thousands...it is not so"
I see you're still having issues with the concepts. Every flat panel has an aspect (exactly perpendicular to the panel) where there is a huge RCS spike. Don't bother aguing with me on it.... its a physics fact.
@dobrovolets777 For the purposes of diagrams, it would not be appropriate to add the huge spikes, so they are typically left off. Every aircraft has these "hotspots", even stealth fighters.
But stealth aircraft have their hotspots directed downward (at 55 degrees for the F-22) so coaltitude aircraft do not see them. Their hotspots are all angled in the same direction too. Their onboard computers use data from their RWR's to make sure they never point their large RCS aspects at emitters.
@dobrovolets777 the fact remains.... the Su-35 is still a disco ball for radars. Large aircraft, no canting of the tails like we have on the F-18, F-15se and all the stealth aircraft we have/had.
From an enemy aircraft flying at the same altitude, it is easy to target. If illuminated from the side, it is spotted at the maximum effective range of the radar. Especially when its carrying weapons (SE carries them internally).
@FXWorldBeater what the fact? did you see Su-35C at the radar to talk this? and only crazy "kamikadze" can fly over the enemy`s territory with the switched on active radar...switch on the active radar = death...I don`t agree with you on many aspects but to discuss here may take a lot of size and time...anyway I say to you that don`t having directors of hindrances even the steathiest fighter is dead fighter even against non-steath fighters WITH electronic warefare support.+cont+
You think we don't use jamming at red flag, where the f-22's still tear up the competition?
Don't know if you know it or not, but the US has more than 6 times the airborne jamming assets of our closest competitor, Russia. Russia has no dedicated frontline jammers like the our Prowlers and Growlers and they have only 20 AWACS to our 120.
Our F-22's get well tested in a jamming environment, don't you worry.
@FXWorldBeater of course I know you have it and I know that ouo have them much more than we are...unfortunetely the most of these programs were cut in 90-ies but it will regain, don`t worry :)) and another point - do you really think we are going to invade USA?
having a lot of AWACS it is yesterday :)) it is too good target for today...it is much cheaper to have drons for this purpose or to have special containers after the fighter (on the safe distance)...do you have such techs?
@FXWorldBeater stealth is good but there is no enough good weaponry for steaths to have the face-to-face battle against such fighters as Su-35C don`t telling as PAK FA...maybe F-22A can see Su-35C out to 250-300 km but it can not kill him from such a distance...but out to the distance 90-110 km (without the hindrances) SU-35C can see Raptor too...the only way to try to kill any are the middle range missles as AIM-120C(4,5,6) BUT only out to 30-50 km...but from such distances+cont+
@FXWorldBeater stealth is good but there is no enough good weaponry for steaths to have the face-to-face battle against such fighters as Su-35C don`t telling as PAK FA...maybe F-22A can see Su-35C out to 250-300 km but it can not kill him from such a distance...but out to the distance 90-110 km (without the hindrances) SU-35C can see Raptor too...the only way to try to kill any are the middle range missles as AIM-120C(4,5,6) BUT only out to 30-50 km...but from such distances+cont
@dobrovolets777 "but out to the distance 90-110 km (without the hindrances) SU-35C can see Raptor too"
Try 35km. Can't see the F-22 coming, can't see the missile shots and can't catch the F-22 if the shots miss. It is a sitting duck.
The F-22 that fires the shots doesn't even need to use his radar. His buddy sitting 200km behind (outside the flanker's range) lights the flanker up on radar and the front f-22 takes the shots without even emitting.
@FXWorldBeater ok, lets try to model...F-22A can see Su-35C at the distance 200 km...what is the next? what kind of weapon has F-22A to strike Su-35C from this distance?
@dobrovolets777 ummm, do what? they were valid url's to images on imageshack, that put the su-35 vs f-22 engagement into perspective.
I've also done a recent simulation of Su-35 vs F-35. In all scenario's the Su-35 either gets shot down or is unable to chase the F-35 down due to low fuel.
Su-35 can't beat the F-35.... it has no chance against a raptor.
In 2v2 or 4v4 which is what happens in the real world it is MUCH worse for the Su-35.
@FXWorldBeater "do what?" - gave me the links with the viruses!
oh, if you made a simulation according to such knowledges as you told me our several last comments then I am not wondered. You have a strong gap in the knowledge of real capacities of the weaponry and tactics of air battles...not just Su-35C or PAK FA but even old Mig-29 can shot down Raptor and even several Raptors but if there will be definite conditions...as for the equal conditions +++cont+++
@FXWorldBeater +++cont+++for the equal conditions without the EW support the chances of Su-35CvsF-22A are approximate EQUAL...the same as for Su-35C vs F-35 - then F-35` chances are close to ZERO...F-35 even has no supermaneuvrability...its maneuvrability at the level of maneuvrability of Mig-23...maybe its the most simple version will be more maneuvrable...
@dobrovolets777 Well the F-35 scenario plays out like this .... F-35 picks up the Su-35 at roughly 250km. The Su-35's early warning radar picks up the F-35 at 135km, but it must get its irbis-E onto the target for a firing solution. Irbis E can't pick up the F-35 from the front aspect until 50km, OLS-35 at 35km.
The F-35 launches aim-120D from 100km, slows, then takes 15 seconds to perform a 9G turn at M1.2.
With a 4 shot volley, the probability of the su-35 being killed is around 90%.
@FXWorldBeater nope, buddy...the 1st: as soon as any of F-35 will use its active radar it finds himself for Su-35C...without directors it is death for F-35...the 2nd: probability to shot down Su-35C from the distance out to 30-50 by AIM-120C or D is less than 1%...4 AIM-120C,D maybe it will grow up to 10% not more...another fact that the active AN/APG-81 can search much less degree than IRBIS-E in frontal and it even possible won`t find Su-35C but the absolute frontal courses...+
@dobrovolets777 OLS has the possibilities to detect such target as F-35 out to 30-60 km and more massive targets as F-22A out to 30-90 km but ok, lets take the middle - 40-50 km...F-35 will shot AIM-120D from 45 km and began to run away...what will do Su-35C?
It doesn't matter if the Su-35 see's the emissions.... that only tells him which direction to fly. An R-77 firing solution requires the flanker to have a radar lock on the F-35 .... something the flanker can't get befopre he's already been fired at.
Also, there's less chance of the F-35's apg-81 being detected than the irbis-e due to the fact that it has 900 times the frequency hopping agility of the irbis (its an LPI AESA)
@FXWorldBeater you mean "stealth" mode? :) its range is less than 250 km...as for "emissions tell him which direction to fly only" - no...not only direction but exact destination of target...R-77 has active block and will go to F-35`s active emissions...
@dobrovolets777 "has active block and will go to F-35`s active emissions"
Well if we are assuming both aircraft see each others emissions. In which case both aircraft are radar silent.
The F-35 and aim-120 can still "hear" the flanker every time it shares data with an ally or the pilot uses the radio. TKS-2 datalinks are not directional like MADL, their wave propogation is spherical rather than the MADL's pencil thin beam.
@dobrovolets777 If the Su-35 is lucky (10%) .... he has to tail chase the f-35 to 30km for a tail chase shot from a R-77.
The problem for the Su-35 is that external weapons stores slow the aircraft by approximately m0.4 and the high SFC of the 117s and thrust required to reach its max speed causes it to guzzle fuel. It is also moving AWAY from its tanker/base so the further it travels, the more fuel it needs to get home.
The Su turns home without getting into tail chase missile range.
@FXWorldBeater no again...in case of "tail chase" F-35 and even F-22A will be shot down with the highly possibilities...to have a chance to avoid a counterstrike F35(F-22) should launch at least 1 missle to Su-35C...the same with the Su...
talking about lucky I meant the chance of missle nice shot...
Su-35C has much more range compared to F-35...and don`t forget that we were talking based only on distance capacities of missles but there are a lot of type meanings for them too...
@dobrovolets777 for the F-22 scenario. The F-22 flies higher and faster than the F-35 on approach, stealthier with more missiles. Better all aspect stealth and cannot be tracked from the rear.
The F-22 launches from 130km. The Su doesn't even see the launches and its MAWS doesn't see the UV plume of the missile rocket.
The PK of a 6 missile volley is almost certain.
The F-22 turns if all miss, and the flanker cannot hope to chase it down and can't see the F-22 from behind anyway.
@FXWorldBeater HAVE I already told you that USAF HAS NO MISSLES THAT CAN SHOT DOWN THE FIGHTER LIKE SU-35C from the distance more than 30-50 km??? and actually Russia don`t have such! Remeber it and don`t speak nonsense to anymore about "from 100-130 km"...and how and where F-22 will shot if SU-35C will not radiate and F-22A active radar will be swithed off???
Actually the F-35 is capable of a sustained 50 degree AOA turn as compared to ALL flankers (even one's with TVC) that can only sustain 27 degrees.
The F-35 in close combat can fire missiles at targets in a full 360 degree sphere around itself. While the Su-35 is limitted to the 30 degree OBS of its IR missiles.
Flanker can do 9G, the Aim-9X can pull 50G's and is immune to all Russian countermeasures. I'm betting on the missile.
@FXWorldBeater you want to say that Su-35C has no supermaneuvreability? :) or its OLS worse than american? or its IRBIS-E NO-35 is worse than american AN/APG-81? :)
@FXWorldBeater yes, "X-serie" is real incredible BUT its range is even much less than AIM-120...to cut the distances to such level is slow probability and even then Su-35C has also low range missles and that missles are good enugh too to shot down any fighter (even stealth) with the probability 90%...and NO, SU-35C can fire missles in 360 degrees too but there another problem - time...its time firing a bit less but it have a matter in close battle.
@FXWorldBeater sorry for my english coz it`s not good enough to explain to you anything..I just say what I will do for example...if I find radiating fighter from 30-50 km and I`m in the passive mode I launch the missles with the active radar seeker like P-27АЭ, Р-77or passive IR homing head as Р-27ЭТ(semiactive radar seeker as Р-27ЭР won`t be good coz I don`t want to be detected clearly by enemy`s missles and will fly in nonradiating mode&won`thave time enough toflash the target)+
@FXWorldBeater NEXT=> as soon as I`ve launched the missles => afterburning and on the full throtlle go away in safe direction closely to the earth to try to fly as possible great distance in dense air to spend kinetic energy of missles which could be run after on me...
@FXWorldBeater and I actually don`t understand how it will be possible that I will not see any of your fighters up to 35 km coz if there will not be the AWACS covering for you I will see stealths at least out to 90-110 km..if there will be AWACSs then I will se them and I understand that there are some stealths out there and if the situation will not be for me good I turn back and run away...it is if the situation on neutral territory..on my territory your AWACS will be shot down+
@FXWorldBeater and I say more, for the equal conditions without director of interferences, only one Su-35C can destroy 2, 3...and even 4 units F-35 if it gets a bit lucky.
@FXWorldBeater why do you think such a missle as K-172 is called "AWACS killer"? it has the range from 400 to 450 km but does it mean that any fighter will launch it from this distance? of course NO...maximum 200-250 km..
@FXWorldBeater ups...did note the variant with "35 km. can`t see the F-22 coming, can`t see the missile shots, can`t catch F-22 if the shots miss" - 35 km and can`t see F-22 is the third variant I told you before...but "can`t see missile shots" - it is impossible but the pilot of Su-35C will be drunk or absolutely stupid but even in such case there are a lot of electronics what fire all the alarms that possible :))) as for "can`t catch F-22 if shots miss" - possible but the +++
@FXWorldBeater +++but the missles from Su will go to the target (F-22)...don`t forget - 26 km...26 km and Su-35C will see Raptor anyway even F-22 will have the massive hindrances covering...and making a launch from 35 F-22 should make some maneuvres which find him for Su` radar or to get closer to Flanker and to be detected anyway.
@FXWorldBeater +++cont+++from such distances such systems as OLS will work and there is no matter for them stealth plane or not...I think a lot about many possible variants but the final is one - stealth (without EW) vs non-steath (without EW) - both will run away from the missles of each other...steath (without EW) vs non-stealth (with EW) - the same...steath (with EW) vs non-stealth (without EW) - steath wins with high probability...
@dobrovolets777 "from such distances such systems as OLS will work and there is no matter for them stealth plane"
The range of the Su-35's OLS-35 is 35km for inbound, non-afterburning aircraft and 90km for a aircraft heading away. Says so right on the brochure.
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A M1.8 supercruising F-22 at 65,000ft against a unsuspecting Su-35 has an a-pole range of roughly 134km WITH THE OLD AIM-120B ... with a 120D, that range is much further.
@FXWorldBeater hm...I see you do not understand the core in this issue...OLS of Su-35C is the latest version and it can detect the small targets as fighter out to 30-60 km...there are a lot of info about this in russian...
As for the missles - only in the dreams...of course having a target as AWACS on the counter or coaxial courses without the evasive maneuvres and electronic countremeasures AIM-120C or even D has a chance to hit the target from the distance...but not Su-35C or+++
@FXWorldBeater or EF for example...such supermameuvrable targets can avoid the missle hitting even from the distance of 20-30 km...if F-22A launch AIM-120C,D from the distance more than 30-50 it will be mishit...and F-22A finds itself for enemies...as soon as Su-35C will see the active missle it will see the Raptor at once and hits him by its missles...after that Su will run away from the missle...but F-22 will do the same...+++cont+++
@FXWorldBeater you made me laugh really...look through the history of the AIM-120`es and it capacities...don`t you think Su-35C will fly as carrier when it see the missle?
FUCK YOU PEOPL! THIS IS not the best plane in the world SO STOP TALKING SHIT OR ILL RAPE YOUR throat!!! Meet me somewhere if you disagree and ILL BEAT YOUR FUCKING ASS!! so STFU you cock blocking cunt dicks!
@gypsykingg Is this before or after you'll put your penis in my mouth? Or have you cancelled that idea, now that you realise its not the best way to threaten someone?
why no english sub titles - this sucks big time. all this intersting russian stuff and one can never figure what the hell they they are saying ...darn!
U guys can say what u want, cause weaker people Murderer's words r too empty of moral to offend me. Any peaceful people in the world is wiser n superior to u all. OK, now attack me with ur bullshits, that's what u north-americans know the better anyway.
@JrGuacamoles we have best girls in the world. u guys r jellows of us. Ur pretty brain washed, i feel really mercy bout american people, the masonry and jewish people slaves. Fuckin ruelty...
@razahml dont give a fuck about your whores im happily married and father 3 .what the fuck is a "jellows"?LMFAO "i feel really mercy bout american"?! LOL wtf.....whats a "ruelty"?get that cock out of your mouth and speak proper english.ITS HORRIBLE!and whats all that bullshit you just said have to do with the su-35?
@razahml spanish and german and soon japanese. its called a U N I V ER S I T Y.
can you say UNIVERSITY?.LOL Epic fail you changed your age and location on your profile! lmfao!!!!you definitely failed in life!!!!! go masturbate to your porn now.youl be ignored from now on LMFAO!
@hazemvirus ты педик грустный,учить язык страны тупых эмигрантов так как такой нации американцы не существует,и учить его только чтоб для таких умников переводить ролики,тебе лучше у меня отсосать!
А теперь беги переводи что я тебе написал домбо)))))))))
@hazemvirus baisicly he explains that the sukhoi 35 is the latest in the line with greater range manuverability and armerment the turbines combined thrust out weighs previous models and is relatively cheap givin its advantages
@demonikfunk yes i read about it, impressive but when will it be in the AirForce? 2020? the F-22 already active and the F-35 will be in service by mid 2011 or late of the same year
@hazemvirus You think, Australian must buy F35, like it or not(never mind of useless , how was they say, F35 "Depending on how much development Australia is required to pay, [the] cost will be well above $100 million per airplane and that is for an airplane that is unflyable," or "It would be better to pull out of the F-35 deal like England is expected to do and look into other alternatives like the F-15 Silent Eagle. Indonesia is looking into buying a lot more Su-30s, which outperfom f35"
@Ghetto00750 you forgot the price for the F-35. you cant really say the SU-35 is good cuz it isnt in service so not service history, the F-35 service history is way too short. give it time and we will see which is the best
This is without doubt the best 4++ gen. AC. Su30MKV is proven in exercises to be better then any western AC (Eurofighter, Rafal, F-16, F-15, F-18). I cannot imagine what this bird (SU-35) would do to them.
F22? I don't know....very unrealiable, costs like hell, and I don't think that stealth can help that much against well equipped army.
The SU-35 is a beautiful plane as well as highly maneuverable But in a real world no holds barred fight to the death where both sides ARE ALLOWED to use beyond visual range tactics and weapons The F22 would win hands Down.
@rpenri...yes you americans are good at killing vietnameese,since you were better equiped than them you should be ashame for that,if you are so tough why have you got your ass kicked at the last strategic airshow,huh?anyway your ass got kicked with your top F-22 and F-35 and other "knock off planes" :)) anyway about rebuilding Germany you got nothing to do with that,and about Japan you killed inocent people with your atomic bombs so in my opinion USA is a plague deadlier than HIV or cancer
The NUKES on Japan was a dirty act and most don't even know the real reasons why the NUKES were dropped.
1.The US bomber command had for months spared Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Kokura from the conventional bombing that had leveled and burned over 60 other major Japanese cities during the first half of 1945!!
The reasons for targeting relatively undamaged cities with NUKES was scientific! They wanted to know what would happen to intact buildings and
@ILTUSU Even after Trinity test American didn't know much about effects atomic weapon would have on people and buildings. That's why there were more bombers involved in those bomb raids. They brought back photos and one of the bombers dropped instruments on parachute to measure various parameters of the blast. But if they wanted to do purely scientific tests it was much more useful to do it back in USA in controlled environment.
4.5 Gen jet fighter
KatiushaVN4 2 months ago
nice but the king of the skies is and will continiue to be the F15E Strike Eagle and the F16C Fighting Falcon the best to ever fly
texasrangersr1 4 months ago
@texasrangersr1 F15E was very good in cold war now its very old and cant match any jet of 4,5th gen.This is why F15 is not more in combat service, but yes F15 is very effecient fighter they should modernize more F15 and dont put lagging shit like F35,F18 or F22.
Talshet 1 month ago
Все сюда/Go here!
MilitaryofRussia 6 months ago
Those Russians sure know how to make a sexy plane.
viperxeon 7 months ago 10
@viperxeon Beautiful plane can not bad fly )
dimanga89 1 month ago
Is there any case that a multirole strike fighter variant will come out from the BM?I mean something LIke a 2 seat plane designated kinda like Su-35BMMK?
gtamodman122 7 months ago
im just so confused they show a Su-35s aka Su-35bm on the ground and its cockpit then in the air they show a Su-27M original Su-35 with canards or its a Su-30m2 someone know whats up with that?
omnadrener 8 months ago
Is it possible for a Russian-built fighter to NOT look sinisterly, unnervingly beautiful?
RedFoxAce 8 months ago
The russians sure do build them pretty.
JCrownwell 8 months ago
My Dads bigger than your Dad....
Xiolablu3 8 months ago
what usa can say
jrfaisal 10 months ago
@jrfaisal
You think that turning like the japanese, means strength or honor, NIGGA PLEASE! IT MEANS QUEER SU! YOU HAVE THE QUEER SU!
ANY 5TH GEN DOG FIGHTING TECH IS QUEER, IT MIGHT AS WELL SAY INSERT COCK HERE!
Queer SU! You got a queer SU!
And by queer, I just mean bad!
It wouldn't mean gay unless you had!
A Silver triangle with a red star flag!
over rated by commies who are on the rag!
LgndryThndr 8 months ago
pretty sexy
russia still can't afford this in numbers
for those of you who dont know this, the us can afford a huge fleet of Su-27s/35s (whatever the fuck you want), russia really cant
535party 10 months ago
"AUTOBOTS ROLL OUT! THE DECEPTACONS ARE COMING "
wrxsavvy 10 months ago
15 people got shot down by the su -35!
mikefan09 10 months ago
The Su-35 can track down Chuck Norris and win!
vfIskullangel 10 months ago 2
@vfIskullangel lol oh damn/1 really!? then thats the best fighter to have! that'll take down anything! lol
mikefan09 10 months ago
I LOVE THIS PLANE
MrMethadrine 11 months ago
si hay alguien que me causa miedo es este caballero POGOSYAN
soydechileyque 1 year ago
Russian weaponry is goods as american one, but costs much cheaper...the slaves of USA will buy american planes, other countries will buy Russian.
Aminodaff 1 year ago
@Aminodaff yes russian weaponry is good but to say that our friends are slaves is a little off my anti - american friend are you brother or brother of ARMS?
THEEND123321 1 year ago
@THEEND123321
I think that American soldier shouldnt die in foreign countries.... that is only what I want to say.... when Obama was gonna become a president, he promised that US troops would leave Iraq and Afganistan... people believe him...but after inauguration he sent 10.000 people..... WAR IS USELESS.... SPARE US SOLJAS...
Aminodaff 1 year ago
@Aminodaff war is ba but at times well at witch side your on you can see as to why we are there but war is never good for any one only time will show the good of war
THEEND123321 1 year ago
i herd pak fa will have l-band radars and su-35 will not.
N1cholas240 1 year ago
i think this is 5th generation aircraft with its engine maneuvarable nozzles and advanced avionics.
fockewolf6 1 year ago
@fockewolf6 Generation 4++... it is not stealthy so it is not a 5th Gen.
JVC7400 10 months ago
@JVC7400 HAL/FGFA - T50 IS A FIFTH GEN FIGHTER....THIS IS 4++...AND IT'S THE BEST IN CLASS....:)
laksh20 9 months ago
@laksh20 Su-35 is indeed a great aircraft, but it can not handle 5th gen figthers. The Irbis-e radar may be good, but if the RCS on the F-22 is the size of a marble, then there is no way it will be picked up on radar at 90 km.
JVC7400 9 months ago
@JVC7400 okayyy...okayyy....we have made fifth-gen also..see sukhoi T-50....
laksh20 9 months ago
@laksh20 It is not finished, it just a pre-production aircraft, the real T-50 will be flying in 2015-2016.
The claimed RCS of the T-50 is 0,5 m2, the same as the B-2 bomber. The F-22 will be much harder to see on radar, yet, the T-50 will be more maneuverable.
JVC7400 9 months ago
@JVC7400 thanks for advice...we can wait for 4-5 years...after all nobody is attacking us right now...talking about Pakistan...hahahha...
so u r from Denmark, how's with the "BIKINI BANDITS"....heehehehh!!!!!!!!
laksh20 9 months ago
@laksh20 Yep, there would not be any big wars this century. since you talk about pakistan you must be indian. India is too big for pakistan.
JVC7400 9 months ago
@JVC7400 RCS of Su-35C is from 0,5 to 1,0 m2...as for PAK FA so it is claimed its RCS will be less than 0,01 to 0,05...a bit better than F-35 but worse than F-22A...but PAK FA should be more maneuvreable then these two...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 Remeber that the Su-35 has to carry all its weaponry OUTSIDE, making the RCS much higher and much less maneuverable
JVC7400 1 week ago
@JVC7400 well, F-18E for example has RCS 0,75-1,0m2 too...and its weaponry is outside too...but everybody (I mean american experts talk about its RCS as 0,75m2)...as for my opinion it is all the propaganda as from russians as from pentagon...the same is with the F-22A, F-35, PAK FA, J-20...all these planes will never have a battle against each other only in a global war but the issue is the prestige!
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "RCS of Su-35C is from 0,5 to 1,0 m2"
Garbage. The Su-27 was 20m2 frontal RCS with the side RCS being 1000's of m2 (30+ dBSM) due to the vertical tails.
The Su-35 is not a lot different. >5m2 from the front, and still 1000's m2 from the side.
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dobrovolets777 1 week ago
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@FXWorldBeater frontal RCS of the first F-15 is 25m2, frontal RCS of the first Su-27 is 22m2...frontal RCS of F-15SE is 0,5-1m2, frontal RCS of Su-35C is 0,5-1m2...and don`t speak nonsense about "1000m2"...it will be much better you just shut your dirty mouth up and never speak the things you do not know.
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "and don`t speak nonsense about 1000m2"
I didn't say 1000m2 i said MANY thousands. Don't tell me that you believe a flat panel with a surface area of 1m2 has an RCS of 1m2.... if that's so, I'd suggest you do not talk about this subject until you learn the basic fundamentals.
The specular RCS of an aircraft tail 2 x 2.5m (smaller than the flanker's) at 11GHz (X-band) is around 53dBsm which equates to roughly 199,000m2 at a 90 degree angle of incidence.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater here is too small place to reply based on physics laws but I`ll try to do this...RCS of panel with a surface area of 1m2 has less than 1m2...it depends on angles and materials at first...next - low RCS of the planes doesn`t give absolute and big advantages for battle without the use of the electronic warfare...Without hindrances reduction RCS in 1000 times reduces range of detection only in 1000 ^ (1/4) ~ 5,62 times in comparison with usual plane+++CONT+++
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeaterBut at correct statement of hindrances reduction of range of detection becomes to proportionally square root from decrease RCS,the law of change of range of detection from RCS, this enormous advantage changes: at correct statement of hindrances reduction RCS in 1000times reduces range of detection in 1000^(1/2)~ 31,62 times in comparison with the usual plane covered with same means EWarfare and even more in comparison with usual plane,not covered even means of EW...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater next is that you don`t have any fundamental knowledges to speak such a shit about "thousands m2 of RCS of F-27"...according to your logic the thing with the square 10m2 can have RCS more than 100000m2 for the radars...it is nonsense! +++cont+++
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 RCS of Su-27 in its maximum has 22m2...change the materials inside the plane and change the covering of surface with the same construction and its RCS can be reduced to 1 or less than 1m2...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 lol, look at you trying to sound technical and providing formulas which are completely unrelated to the FACT I mentioned about RCS.
I was not talking about detection range, learn the terminology. A target object with an RCS of 53dBsm is generally spotted at the maximum range of any radar. A 10m2 surface has an RCS of 1,000,000m2 BTW or 60dBsm.
Stealth materials generally result in a 10-15dBsm decrease in RCS. 43dBsm is still detected at maximum radar range
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 Don't bother pretending you know anything about this subject with your irrelavant posts about different subjects, littered with formulas you don't understand.
I use RCS software ever day, you simply have no chance of winning an argument with me on this subject .... in your head, with your completely incorrect understanding of how it works you might, in reality you just look silly to anyone who knows the subject matter.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater you told before you would not speak to me if I would say wrong BUT you did...and I talked about the correlation of radar detection capacities and RCS of the plane according to this theme but not off-topic as you did...you speak about nonsense...if I am wrong - point where my words were wrong...Su-27 RCS is 22m2 - it is the FACT...and I don`t bother about dBsm coz this topic is not about this...so just shut up and don`t troll...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 This image is from a technical paper presented by Sukhoi's Pogosyan himself in regards to the RCS reductions from the old Su-27 to the new RCS reduced Su-35.
tinyur l. com/6w86phm
Your 22m2 frontal RCS Su-27 is there on the left...(22m2 was frontal, its side RCS is over 50m2...they discarded the usual massive spikes at 90 degrees) the 5m2 is right there on the right.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater 50m2 but not "thousands" as told before...as for Su-35C there are another materials and covering, another blades of turbine, another radar station and so on...you don`t need to think that the designer of Sukhoi so stupid...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater I can ad also that according to Pogosyan the frontal RCS of F-22A is not less than 0,1-0,3 m2...so who is right?
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "I can ad also that according to Pogosyan the frontal RCS of F-22A is not less than 0,1-0,3 m2...so who is right?"
Simple logical equation .... Pogo has access to real flankers, but does not have access to real F-22's...etc. Which information is likely to be more accurate.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "point where my words were wrong"
Hmm, lets see....
You said...
"RCS of panel with a surface area of 1m2 has less than 1m2"
So here is an RCS polar plot using physical optics RCS calculation of a 1mx1m pec plate taken at 11GHz for you to cry over. Perpendicular to the plate the RCS spikes at 40dBsm. The RCS in m2 = 10^(40/10) = 10,000m2 RCS.
tinyur l. com/7copte5
The RCS of the plate doesn't fall to 1m2 until the angle of incidence is lower than 60 degrees.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater ok, I beg a pardon...but you was absolutely wrong about side RCS of Su-27 when you told it is more than thousands...it is not so.
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
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@dobrovolets777 "when you told it is more than thousands...it is not so"
I see you're still having issues with the concepts. Every flat panel has an aspect (exactly perpendicular to the panel) where there is a huge RCS spike. Don't bother aguing with me on it.... its a physics fact.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 For the purposes of diagrams, it would not be appropriate to add the huge spikes, so they are typically left off. Every aircraft has these "hotspots", even stealth fighters.
But stealth aircraft have their hotspots directed downward (at 55 degrees for the F-22) so coaltitude aircraft do not see them. Their hotspots are all angled in the same direction too. Their onboard computers use data from their RWR's to make sure they never point their large RCS aspects at emitters.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 the fact remains.... the Su-35 is still a disco ball for radars. Large aircraft, no canting of the tails like we have on the F-18, F-15se and all the stealth aircraft we have/had.
From an enemy aircraft flying at the same altitude, it is easy to target. If illuminated from the side, it is spotted at the maximum effective range of the radar. Especially when its carrying weapons (SE carries them internally).
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater what the fact? did you see Su-35C at the radar to talk this? and only crazy "kamikadze" can fly over the enemy`s territory with the switched on active radar...switch on the active radar = death...I don`t agree with you on many aspects but to discuss here may take a lot of size and time...anyway I say to you that don`t having directors of hindrances even the steathiest fighter is dead fighter even against non-steath fighters WITH electronic warefare support.+cont+
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "WITH electronic warefare support"
You think we don't use jamming at red flag, where the f-22's still tear up the competition?
Don't know if you know it or not, but the US has more than 6 times the airborne jamming assets of our closest competitor, Russia. Russia has no dedicated frontline jammers like the our Prowlers and Growlers and they have only 20 AWACS to our 120.
Our F-22's get well tested in a jamming environment, don't you worry.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater of course I know you have it and I know that ouo have them much more than we are...unfortunetely the most of these programs were cut in 90-ies but it will regain, don`t worry :)) and another point - do you really think we are going to invade USA?
having a lot of AWACS it is yesterday :)) it is too good target for today...it is much cheaper to have drons for this purpose or to have special containers after the fighter (on the safe distance)...do you have such techs?
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater stealth is good but there is no enough good weaponry for steaths to have the face-to-face battle against such fighters as Su-35C don`t telling as PAK FA...maybe F-22A can see Su-35C out to 250-300 km but it can not kill him from such a distance...but out to the distance 90-110 km (without the hindrances) SU-35C can see Raptor too...the only way to try to kill any are the middle range missles as AIM-120C(4,5,6) BUT only out to 30-50 km...but from such distances+cont+
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater stealth is good but there is no enough good weaponry for steaths to have the face-to-face battle against such fighters as Su-35C don`t telling as PAK FA...maybe F-22A can see Su-35C out to 250-300 km but it can not kill him from such a distance...but out to the distance 90-110 km (without the hindrances) SU-35C can see Raptor too...the only way to try to kill any are the middle range missles as AIM-120C(4,5,6) BUT only out to 30-50 km...but from such distances+cont
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "but out to the distance 90-110 km (without the hindrances) SU-35C can see Raptor too"
Try 35km. Can't see the F-22 coming, can't see the missile shots and can't catch the F-22 if the shots miss. It is a sitting duck.
The F-22 that fires the shots doesn't even need to use his radar. His buddy sitting 200km behind (outside the flanker's range) lights the flanker up on radar and the front f-22 takes the shots without even emitting.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater ok, lets try to model...F-22A can see Su-35C at the distance 200 km...what is the next? what kind of weapon has F-22A to strike Su-35C from this distance?
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777
imageshack. us/f/23/f22vssu35engagementrang. jpg/
or perhaps some group action
imageshack. us/f/577/f22missilemidcourseupda. jpg/
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater oh...why did you do it? my antivirus has just blocked this adresses...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 ummm, do what? they were valid url's to images on imageshack, that put the su-35 vs f-22 engagement into perspective.
I've also done a recent simulation of Su-35 vs F-35. In all scenario's the Su-35 either gets shot down or is unable to chase the F-35 down due to low fuel.
Su-35 can't beat the F-35.... it has no chance against a raptor.
In 2v2 or 4v4 which is what happens in the real world it is MUCH worse for the Su-35.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater "do what?" - gave me the links with the viruses!
oh, if you made a simulation according to such knowledges as you told me our several last comments then I am not wondered. You have a strong gap in the knowledge of real capacities of the weaponry and tactics of air battles...not just Su-35C or PAK FA but even old Mig-29 can shot down Raptor and even several Raptors but if there will be definite conditions...as for the equal conditions +++cont+++
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater +++cont+++for the equal conditions without the EW support the chances of Su-35CvsF-22A are approximate EQUAL...the same as for Su-35C vs F-35 - then F-35` chances are close to ZERO...F-35 even has no supermaneuvrability...its maneuvrability at the level of maneuvrability of Mig-23...maybe its the most simple version will be more maneuvrable...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 Well the F-35 scenario plays out like this .... F-35 picks up the Su-35 at roughly 250km. The Su-35's early warning radar picks up the F-35 at 135km, but it must get its irbis-E onto the target for a firing solution. Irbis E can't pick up the F-35 from the front aspect until 50km, OLS-35 at 35km.
The F-35 launches aim-120D from 100km, slows, then takes 15 seconds to perform a 9G turn at M1.2.
With a 4 shot volley, the probability of the su-35 being killed is around 90%.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater nope, buddy...the 1st: as soon as any of F-35 will use its active radar it finds himself for Su-35C...without directors it is death for F-35...the 2nd: probability to shot down Su-35C from the distance out to 30-50 by AIM-120C or D is less than 1%...4 AIM-120C,D maybe it will grow up to 10% not more...another fact that the active AN/APG-81 can search much less degree than IRBIS-E in frontal and it even possible won`t find Su-35C but the absolute frontal courses...+
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 OLS has the possibilities to detect such target as F-35 out to 30-60 km and more massive targets as F-22A out to 30-90 km but ok, lets take the middle - 40-50 km...F-35 will shot AIM-120D from 45 km and began to run away...what will do Su-35C?
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "active radar it finds himself for Su-35C"
It doesn't matter if the Su-35 see's the emissions.... that only tells him which direction to fly. An R-77 firing solution requires the flanker to have a radar lock on the F-35 .... something the flanker can't get befopre he's already been fired at.
Also, there's less chance of the F-35's apg-81 being detected than the irbis-e due to the fact that it has 900 times the frequency hopping agility of the irbis (its an LPI AESA)
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater you mean "stealth" mode? :) its range is less than 250 km...as for "emissions tell him which direction to fly only" - no...not only direction but exact destination of target...R-77 has active block and will go to F-35`s active emissions...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
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@dobrovolets777 "has active block and will go to F-35`s active emissions"
Well if we are assuming both aircraft see each others emissions. In which case both aircraft are radar silent.
The F-35 and aim-120 can still "hear" the flanker every time it shares data with an ally or the pilot uses the radio. TKS-2 datalinks are not directional like MADL, their wave propogation is spherical rather than the MADL's pencil thin beam.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 If the Su-35 is lucky (10%) .... he has to tail chase the f-35 to 30km for a tail chase shot from a R-77.
The problem for the Su-35 is that external weapons stores slow the aircraft by approximately m0.4 and the high SFC of the 117s and thrust required to reach its max speed causes it to guzzle fuel. It is also moving AWAY from its tanker/base so the further it travels, the more fuel it needs to get home.
The Su turns home without getting into tail chase missile range.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater no again...in case of "tail chase" F-35 and even F-22A will be shot down with the highly possibilities...to have a chance to avoid a counterstrike F35(F-22) should launch at least 1 missle to Su-35C...the same with the Su...
talking about lucky I meant the chance of missle nice shot...
Su-35C has much more range compared to F-35...and don`t forget that we were talking based only on distance capacities of missles but there are a lot of type meanings for them too...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 for the F-22 scenario. The F-22 flies higher and faster than the F-35 on approach, stealthier with more missiles. Better all aspect stealth and cannot be tracked from the rear.
The F-22 launches from 130km. The Su doesn't even see the launches and its MAWS doesn't see the UV plume of the missile rocket.
The PK of a 6 missile volley is almost certain.
The F-22 turns if all miss, and the flanker cannot hope to chase it down and can't see the F-22 from behind anyway.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater HAVE I already told you that USAF HAS NO MISSLES THAT CAN SHOT DOWN THE FIGHTER LIKE SU-35C from the distance more than 30-50 km??? and actually Russia don`t have such! Remeber it and don`t speak nonsense to anymore about "from 100-130 km"...and how and where F-22 will shot if SU-35C will not radiate and F-22A active radar will be swithed off???
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "F-35 even has no supermaneuvrability"
Actually the F-35 is capable of a sustained 50 degree AOA turn as compared to ALL flankers (even one's with TVC) that can only sustain 27 degrees.
The F-35 in close combat can fire missiles at targets in a full 360 degree sphere around itself. While the Su-35 is limitted to the 30 degree OBS of its IR missiles.
Flanker can do 9G, the Aim-9X can pull 50G's and is immune to all Russian countermeasures. I'm betting on the missile.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater oops 60 OBS, still not even as good as the current 90 degrees of our older F-16's and F-15e'S
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater you want to say that Su-35C has no supermaneuvreability? :) or its OLS worse than american? or its IRBIS-E NO-35 is worse than american AN/APG-81? :)
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater yes, "X-serie" is real incredible BUT its range is even much less than AIM-120...to cut the distances to such level is slow probability and even then Su-35C has also low range missles and that missles are good enugh too to shot down any fighter (even stealth) with the probability 90%...and NO, SU-35C can fire missles in 360 degrees too but there another problem - time...its time firing a bit less but it have a matter in close battle.
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "SU-35C can fire missles in 360 degrees"
Errm, no it can't. It has no sensors that cover the rear, or underneath the aircraft. The F-35 has EODAS which covers a full 360 sphere.
For IR missiles on the flanker, the missile seeker of the r-73 has a 60 degree OBS field of view and no LOAL (lock on after launch) ability.
The aim-9x block 2 has a 90 degree OBS fov, and DOES have LOAL. The su-35 can only engage targets in 120 degree cone in front of it
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater sorry for my english coz it`s not good enough to explain to you anything..I just say what I will do for example...if I find radiating fighter from 30-50 km and I`m in the passive mode I launch the missles with the active radar seeker like P-27АЭ, Р-77or passive IR homing head as Р-27ЭТ(semiactive radar seeker as Р-27ЭР won`t be good coz I don`t want to be detected clearly by enemy`s missles and will fly in nonradiating mode&won`thave time enough toflash the target)+
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater NEXT=> as soon as I`ve launched the missles => afterburning and on the full throtlle go away in safe direction closely to the earth to try to fly as possible great distance in dense air to spend kinetic energy of missles which could be run after on me...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater and I actually don`t understand how it will be possible that I will not see any of your fighters up to 35 km coz if there will not be the AWACS covering for you I will see stealths at least out to 90-110 km..if there will be AWACSs then I will se them and I understand that there are some stealths out there and if the situation will not be for me good I turn back and run away...it is if the situation on neutral territory..on my territory your AWACS will be shot down+
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 earlier than your group will come close enough to attack any my fighters...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater and I say more, for the equal conditions without director of interferences, only one Su-35C can destroy 2, 3...and even 4 units F-35 if it gets a bit lucky.
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater why do you think such a missle as K-172 is called "AWACS killer"? it has the range from 400 to 450 km but does it mean that any fighter will launch it from this distance? of course NO...maximum 200-250 km..
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater ups...did note the variant with "35 km. can`t see the F-22 coming, can`t see the missile shots, can`t catch F-22 if the shots miss" - 35 km and can`t see F-22 is the third variant I told you before...but "can`t see missile shots" - it is impossible but the pilot of Su-35C will be drunk or absolutely stupid but even in such case there are a lot of electronics what fire all the alarms that possible :))) as for "can`t catch F-22 if shots miss" - possible but the +++
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater +++but the missles from Su will go to the target (F-22)...don`t forget - 26 km...26 km and Su-35C will see Raptor anyway even F-22 will have the massive hindrances covering...and making a launch from 35 F-22 should make some maneuvres which find him for Su` radar or to get closer to Flanker and to be detected anyway.
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater +++cont+++from such distances such systems as OLS will work and there is no matter for them stealth plane or not...I think a lot about many possible variants but the final is one - stealth (without EW) vs non-steath (without EW) - both will run away from the missles of each other...steath (without EW) vs non-stealth (with EW) - the same...steath (with EW) vs non-stealth (without EW) - steath wins with high probability...
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@dobrovolets777 "from such distances such systems as OLS will work and there is no matter for them stealth plane"
The range of the Su-35's OLS-35 is 35km for inbound, non-afterburning aircraft and 90km for a aircraft heading away. Says so right on the brochure.
i51. tinypic. com/qrkpwi. jpg
A M1.8 supercruising F-22 at 65,000ft against a unsuspecting Su-35 has an a-pole range of roughly 134km WITH THE OLD AIM-120B ... with a 120D, that range is much further.
FXWorldBeater 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater hm...I see you do not understand the core in this issue...OLS of Su-35C is the latest version and it can detect the small targets as fighter out to 30-60 km...there are a lot of info about this in russian...
As for the missles - only in the dreams...of course having a target as AWACS on the counter or coaxial courses without the evasive maneuvres and electronic countremeasures AIM-120C or even D has a chance to hit the target from the distance...but not Su-35C or+++
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater or EF for example...such supermameuvrable targets can avoid the missle hitting even from the distance of 20-30 km...if F-22A launch AIM-120C,D from the distance more than 30-50 it will be mishit...and F-22A finds itself for enemies...as soon as Su-35C will see the active missle it will see the Raptor at once and hits him by its missles...after that Su will run away from the missle...but F-22 will do the same...+++cont+++
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater you made me laugh really...look through the history of the AIM-120`es and it capacities...don`t you think Su-35C will fly as carrier when it see the missle?
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
@FXWorldBeater and show me the datas about frontal RCS of Su-35C with 5m2!!! or you are just a troll?
dobrovolets777 1 week ago
Is from Mother Russia.
TuAFFalcon 1 year ago
zivela Russia !!! :)))
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1968drale 1 year ago
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powerofthroughts 1 year ago
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@copehaha ILL FUCKING DROWN YOU IN POPPIES CHICKEN DEEP FRYING GREASE!
gypsykingg 1 year ago
@gypsykingg Is this before or after you'll put your penis in my mouth? Or have you cancelled that idea, now that you realise its not the best way to threaten someone?
copehaha 1 year ago
@copehaha after so it will be warm and crispy and i can eat you when i cum all over you cause thats what i do
gypsykingg 1 year ago
@gypsykingg Ahaha, you are such an idiot!
iams0seri0us 1 year ago
in soviet russia su-35 flies you!
JrGuacamoles 1 year ago 2
why no english sub titles - this sucks big time. all this intersting russian stuff and one can never figure what the hell they they are saying ...darn!
whiteliketar 1 year ago
so ein kübel hahah eurofaither fressen
loshia22 1 year ago
ohh look Eurofighter food !!! yumm
MrCanada967 1 year ago
@MrCanada967 Yeah,Eurofighter is good food for Su-35 ;)
SerbianCommandoSCGRS 1 year ago 8
klass!
grasess 1 year ago
su - 35 radar 300 km !!!!!!!!!!!!!
technologyexpert09 1 year ago
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forrestc3 1 year ago
@technologyexpert09 400 km
den19902 1 year ago
U guys can say what u want, cause weaker people Murderer's words r too empty of moral to offend me. Any peaceful people in the world is wiser n superior to u all. OK, now attack me with ur bullshits, that's what u north-americans know the better anyway.
razahml 1 year ago
@razahml Amen they are nothing , but weaker people crushing girlfriend stealing imperialistic bastards!
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
@razahml is that the only thing you look frwd to in life is having sex
STORMMaSK23 1 year ago
Scary looking plane...
looxgood 1 year ago
speak english damn it
gustavo87467357 1 year ago
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@gustavo87467357
You would not believe me, but Russian in Russia speak in Russian.
0croaker0 1 year ago
Russian planes r much better than american ones.
Greetings from Brasil to all the russian people!
Gratz for the beautiful fighters!
razahml 1 year ago
@razahml keep on dreaming ya brazialian cock sucker
JrGuacamoles 1 year ago
@JrGuacamoles we have best girls in the world. u guys r jellows of us. Ur pretty brain washed, i feel really mercy bout american people, the masonry and jewish people slaves. Fuckin ruelty...
razahml 1 year ago
@razahml dont give a fuck about your whores im happily married and father 3 .what the fuck is a "jellows"?LMFAO "i feel really mercy bout american"?! LOL wtf.....whats a "ruelty"?get that cock out of your mouth and speak proper english.ITS HORRIBLE!and whats all that bullshit you just said have to do with the su-35?
YOU FAILED IN LIFE.
your not worth talking to
JrGuacamoles 1 year ago
@JrGuacamoles bet u cannot even speak another language. American r generally too stupid to do so.
razahml 1 year ago
@razahml spanish and german and soon japanese. its called a U N I V ER S I T Y.
can you say UNIVERSITY?.LOL Epic fail you changed your age and location on your profile! lmfao!!!!you definitely failed in life!!!!! go masturbate to your porn now.youl be ignored from now on LMFAO!
JrGuacamoles 1 year ago
@JrGuacamoles r gay??? Omg... I'm talking to a fag.. Damn it..Sory, bro, be happy with ur homossexual decision...
razahml 1 year ago
@JrGuacamoles
"happily married and father 3" You sound like a very mature father. For what your typing...
JerryLawMartin 1 year ago
@JerryLawMartin thank you i get that alot ;)
JrGuacamoles 1 year ago
dude, you wrote the description in english and the video is in russian? atleast put english subtitles man
hazemvirus 1 year ago 33
@hazemvirus I have some russian documentaries with English subs if you are interested.
BitnikGr 1 year ago
@hazemvirus lear russian! why all we have to learn english...fuck off!
fedeaer737 1 year ago
@fedeaer737 sorry, not interested in a homo language spoken by fucks and murders
hazemvirus 1 year ago
@hazemvirus like USA? or UK? dont be naif, rusia culture like oriental culture are the gratest
fedeaer737 1 year ago
@fedeaer737 ya my ass, nothing buy hookers and faggots. learn to do something successful then talk about other nations
hazemvirus 1 year ago
@hazemvirus why? maby u should learn 1more language then english?
adlkdflsk 1 year ago
@adlkdflsk ha! dumbass i know english german french hebrew arabic and some italian, i would rather learn chinese than that slavic fucked up language
hazemvirus 1 year ago
@hazemvirus ты педик грустный,учить язык страны тупых эмигрантов так как такой нации американцы не существует,и учить его только чтоб для таких умников переводить ролики,тебе лучше у меня отсосать!
А теперь беги переводи что я тебе написал домбо)))))))))
BodyLove1981 1 year ago
@BodyLove1981 dont care what you wrote cuz you probably sucking your own dick, keep doing that, and go to school as well loser
hazemvirus 1 year ago
@hazemvirus
If you have a problem with Russian, why in fuck's name are you watching this?
Ninox37 1 year ago
@Ninox37 i didnt, idiots keep replaying to my replays (not calling you an idiot tho)
hazemvirus 1 year ago
@hazemvirus baisicly he explains that the sukhoi 35 is the latest in the line with greater range manuverability and armerment the turbines combined thrust out weighs previous models and is relatively cheap givin its advantages
demonikfunk 1 year ago
@demonikfunk yes i read about it, impressive but when will it be in the AirForce? 2020? the F-22 already active and the F-35 will be in service by mid 2011 or late of the same year
hazemvirus 1 year ago
@hazemvirus 2015
demonikfunk 1 year ago
@hazemvirus You think, Australian must buy F35, like it or not(never mind of useless , how was they say, F35 "Depending on how much development Australia is required to pay, [the] cost will be well above $100 million per airplane and that is for an airplane that is unflyable," or "It would be better to pull out of the F-35 deal like England is expected to do and look into other alternatives like the F-15 Silent Eagle. Indonesia is looking into buying a lot more Su-30s, which outperfom f35"
runxxeroxx 1 year ago
@hazemvirus read in google about su-35bm in 2014 will be 60 work planes
f-35 have some problem with supersonic speed and mobility
rus
Ghetto00750 4 months ago
@Ghetto00750 you forgot the price for the F-35. you cant really say the SU-35 is good cuz it isnt in service so not service history, the F-35 service history is way too short. give it time and we will see which is the best
hazemvirus 4 months ago
@hazemvirus As always it will be worth 10 times more but will be either the same quality or same as Russian aircraft
Ghetto00750 4 months ago
@Ghetto00750 yep, welcome to capitalism!
hazemvirus 4 months ago
@hazemvirus You will learn Chinese, I like it or not, you will have very soon,
runxxeroxx 1 year ago
@runxxeroxx lmao, no way man
hazemvirus 1 year ago
does su35 have vector thrust?
sqy391 1 year ago
@sqy391 yes, it does.
BitnikGr 1 year ago
@BitnikGr Su-45 dosn't, the SU-37 does. ;)
JerryLawMartin 1 year ago
@JerryLawMartin I meant 35* my bad
JerryLawMartin 1 year ago
@JerryLawMartin SU-45? You meant 35, right? Both SU-35 and SU-37 (cancelled) have thrust vectoring.
Engine Saturn AL-31:
The AL-31FP and AL-37FU variants have thrust vectoring.
The 117S (AL-41F1A) is an upgrade of the AL-31F based on the AL-41F intended to power the Su-35BM. Thrust-vectoring nozzles similar to the AL-31FP.
BitnikGr 1 year ago
I usually only support American aircraft for I am an American, but this is a beautiful aircraft. Good job Russia.
MrPhipper 1 year ago
This is without doubt the best 4++ gen. AC. Su30MKV is proven in exercises to be better then any western AC (Eurofighter, Rafal, F-16, F-15, F-18). I cannot imagine what this bird (SU-35) would do to them.
F22? I don't know....very unrealiable, costs like hell, and I don't think that stealth can help that much against well equipped army.
So for me...SU-35 is probably the best AC today.
moveaxebx 1 year ago
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russian = gay
sharky0922 1 year ago
@sharky0922 you= gay
SovietBear91 1 year ago
@sharky0922 you=gay(or more hardcore)
talakamikaze 1 year ago
this plane is scary
crumcon 1 year ago
Beautiful airplane
superseung 1 year ago 60
Русские самолёты самые лучшие в мире!!!
Slavikby91 1 year ago
The SU-35 is a beautiful plane as well as highly maneuverable But in a real world no holds barred fight to the death where both sides ARE ALLOWED to use beyond visual range tactics and weapons The F22 would win hands Down.
vince38curious2 1 year ago
russian plane dealers..XD
Bf2MastersMaster 1 year ago
Love to see it !!!
krakpatsboem 1 year ago 3
@rpenri...yes you americans are good at killing vietnameese,since you were better equiped than them you should be ashame for that,if you are so tough why have you got your ass kicked at the last strategic airshow,huh?anyway your ass got kicked with your top F-22 and F-35 and other "knock off planes" :)) anyway about rebuilding Germany you got nothing to do with that,and about Japan you killed inocent people with your atomic bombs so in my opinion USA is a plague deadlier than HIV or cancer
AlinFrost 1 year ago
@AlinFrost
The NUKES on Japan was a dirty act and most don't even know the real reasons why the NUKES were dropped.
1.The US bomber command had for months spared Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Kokura from the conventional bombing that had leveled and burned over 60 other major Japanese cities during the first half of 1945!!
The reasons for targeting relatively undamaged cities with NUKES was scientific! They wanted to know what would happen to intact buildings and
their living creatures!!
ILTUSU 1 year ago
@ILTUSU Even after Trinity test American didn't know much about effects atomic weapon would have on people and buildings. That's why there were more bombers involved in those bomb raids. They brought back photos and one of the bombers dropped instruments on parachute to measure various parameters of the blast. But if they wanted to do purely scientific tests it was much more useful to do it back in USA in controlled environment.
rrynek 1 year ago
@rrynek
The US DID have nuclear test done without it's own people knowing it!!
These test killed and made US citizens ill without them knowing about
these secret tests!
ILTUSU 1 year ago