@woggypaula "what Goes against God's word Is wrong....."
You are welcome to your religious opinion, but you do not have a right to impose your beliefs on those who do not belong to your religious group. Seperation of church and state is enshrined in the Constitution. A religious argument is irrelevent when discussion public policy.
@dylantuzyk I noticed you cant ever debate me on my talking points (because you cant, at least not intelligently, mayb because your secret lust for nuts clouds your thinking process) so you change the thread or go back to these childish comments here. Who's the 5 year old?
Your talking points? Is this a joke? Your "talking points" are all about how you hate homosexuality. Why? For what reason? You never provide any evidence or rationality to back up your claim that the scary scary gays are destroying your country. You haven't provided any examples of how gay marriage affects you at all in any way. You haven't given any talking points, you've just spouted a bunch of crazy bullshit.
@dylantuzyk You havent seen my talking points? Maybe get the jiz out of your eyes so you can see my posts? They are there. Address them, or leave the discussion. All you seem to be able to do is employ your selective hearing and try to redirect the attacks on me - same old tactics of the left. So - aside from repeating my points on taxes, their organized invasion of schools, military, media, churches, etc how about their wanton spreading of AIDS across the world and their freeze on procreation.
@dylantuzyk Yes, I dont support two butt buddies from taking money out of my pocket under the guise of marriage benefits - not exactly a stretch there canuk. Why are you even on this forum? not enough socialist 'reform' left to do with your socialist country so now you gotta try and ruin ours as well? Just know, that once the socialists, fags, tree huggers, aetheists, illegal aliens (canadian and mexican) and terrorists (all friends of yours im sure) ruin the US, all you leaches will die too.
You know what would save even more money? Making all marriage illegal! What? You only want gay marriage to be illegal? Well, that's because you're a big fucking hypocrite!
You still have yet to provide an ideological reason for why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. Instead you toss around conjecture about how I'm gay, a socialist, and friends with terrorists.
You, and people like you, are the reason the world laughs at America. Sorry.
@dylantuzyk says the backwards canuk as he crosses our border for decent medical care (at least until Osama makes it as lame as yours). lol. laugh it up dumbass - but the truth is, the only ones laughing are losers who think dudes porking dudes is normal, healthy and cant see how utterly sick and unnatural it is. It doesnt need a reason - it speaks for itself. Thats like asking for a reason why pedophilia or bestiality is wrong. Its just as disgusting and self evident.
I actually have great medical care, I just dropped in for an appointment earlier today. Speedy, professional and completely free. But I guess efficient and cost-effective healthcare isn't really big in America, what with it being EVIL EVIL COMMUNISM and all that
@dylantuzyk Now you remove all doubt ur an idiot. 1) nothings free. That "free care" you got was paid by your high tax burden, then supplemented off the back of an advanced earner who is being penalized even more % wise to take up your slack. 2) yes you can get the sniffles in Canada and not die. But dont get really sick or something unusual or need it fast. WHO ranked US at #1 and Canada #7 in "quality and expediency of care" worldwide. Our docs get paid 2x as much but provide 7x the service.
Actually, pooling money for healthcare is the most cost-effective way to do it; I've already paid for, through my taxes, my own healthcare many times over, as well as someone else's.
BTW, the WHO ranks the United States as 37th in the world, a fair ways behind Canada. But if you guys buck yourselves up maybe you can catch up to Saudi Arabia (26th) or Colombia (22nd). I guess it's a little sad that you're losing to third world countries, but such is the price of stupidity.
@dylantuzyk Even your own" father of Canadian socialized healthcare" says it SUVs, is in crisis and needs to privatize to survive: thedaleygator.wordpress.c om/2008/06/30/man-who-created-canadian-health-care-admits-that-it-sucks/ but then who needs facts messing up lazy peoples free ride. In America we'd chose how we spend our own money rather than being forced to incentivize the lazy to be even more lazy.
Link's broken, but who needs proof messing up a great rant amirite? Incidentally, look up "appeal to authority" and why you shouldn't be doing it, then respond.
@dylantuzyk Its not a link, I had to modify the URL to get past YouTube's filters. Just type the ww w and ht tp junk in and youll have all the proof you need that your health care system is guaranteed to completely fail over time. Its a simple calculation of more output than input. Socialist systems only appear to work day to day because they have a healthy capitalist free enterprise system (like ours) to tap into. If all you dumbass socialists succeed in sucking it dry, the world will die.
A dude that likes to suck off dudes is sick! I should be allowed to descriminate that. It's gross!! You like to stik your bone in another hairy dudes hairy ass? Frigging disgusting! Why would I want someone that demented in my place of business that I worked so hard to build? Who are you to force your disgusting sick demented "lifestyle" on me? Who the f are you? Your in my business that I built! Your fired! Get the f off of my property you twisted f!
@dylantuzyk Clearly your defective queer mind is corrupted. You fags force your ways into my wallet, my TV, my Movies and my Military. You take my tax dollars with your illegitimate "marriages" and the assoc. govt benefits. 2) you queers have overrun hollywood. you cant watch a show now that doesnt try and cast queers in a good light 3)your force yourself into my military forcing me to endure your flaming disgusting ways in my berthings, bathrooms and foxholes.There's a lot more, Shall I go on?
@dylantuzyk So...your whining that I am whining? lol. Maturity to you means caving to the homo's advances? That's permissiveness, not maturity.
I'm about as close to being 5 as you are to being straight. If you haven't sucked penis yet you will with all that bleeding heart sympathy you give to the defective sex - which is the goal of their campaign - to recruit a larger pool of misfits to suck. buncha sicko's.
BTW - my wife is f-ing hot, so I don't know what you are talking about queer-bait.
I'm not the one that's bitching about somebody else even existing. Unfortunately, the reality of the world is that there's going to be people that you don't like, but you're going to have to deal with them. Be a man and stop complaining about things that don't concern you in the slightest. Tolerate them like the rest of the world tolerates you.
@dylantuzyk I dont know what world you live it but they are not quietly existing. They are on a hell bent campaign of aggressive recruiting with their in-your-face "parades" of filth, they have invaded our top notch cities, our government, our boy scouts, our military (any where there is fresh meat). they are a disgusting pox on our society - and it concerns me and every straight person out there as they seek no only "equality" (while yet being defective) but extra rights & privileges. wake up!
Fantastic. They can have all the rights they want. They can have a big rights parade down the street with a massive rights cake and rights candles. See, I'm fine with gay people doing whatever they want, as long as nothing they do infringes on MY rights (oh, and hurting your itty-bitty feelings doesn't count as infringing on your rights, btw). I'm what you'd call "conservative" on that point, unlike yourself and the rest of the nutcases that have hijacked the term.
@dylantuzyk taxes spent on fags because they are fags (medical, civil, social expenses) invade my right to keep what I earn. Having lunch with my kids at a stret cafe and the filthy fags parade NY with their obnoxious whistles and wearing nothing but cock socks invades just about every right I have. You think sodomy is ok and IM the nutjob? That's rich. Your a closet qeer. Admit it
@dylantuzyk Citizens are either part of the solution or part of the problem. There is no in between. You cant stick your head in the sand and say its none of my concern. That's how crazy socialists like Osama get voted in - by sleepy people like you. Same with the fags. If there is no opposition, there is no end to what they will require of us to grow their obscene campaign. They will continue to invade our schools and corrupt and recruit our kids. Your live and let live mentality makes you a -1
@dylantuzyk what a pathetic argument. hitler existed. Pedophiles exist. Murderers exist. Under your argument we need to tolerate everyone. In fact queer lovers like you tell people to tolerate everyone except your so called 'homophobes'. again your diseased mind is affecting your ability to adequately debate an already decided subject: Homo's are immoral reprobates that need treatment, just like all the other sexual perversions out there,
Look it is so difficult to prove why these biggots do what they do. If I went to court every time an employer broke the law I would never get any work done.
WOuld love to live in a perfect world but just cause it is on a law book don't mean they will adhere to the law they will do as they feel no matter what. I have had transportation companies force me to drive 3 days straight no sleep even though the law is clear that you were not to drive more than 10 hours in a sitting but they did it.
Exactly, Bryce, your point rang out soooo lound to me and I hope to other viewers,
that, It doesnt matter if your pro or con on the issue , IT'S NOT RIGHT TO DISCRIMINATE BASED ON GENDER, OR SOMEONES PRIVATE SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
And that's exactly what's being done today! I mean, It's gays today, tomorrow it could be , atheists, "elitists",non christians, You seen how quick the Bush administration called ppl 'traitor" and "unamerican".
@POWERSTATIONIII - you sound as if there is NOTHING that should be discriminated against. I noticed you didnt mention pedophiles, bestiality, murderers, thieves, etc...sodomy is a crime, sodomites are criminals just as much as these others I listed. No amount of word twisting will change that homo is wrong, illegal, unnatural and just plain sick as pedophilia...in fact its MORE sick since many 13 -16 year old's in history have had healthy productive married lives. i.e. Mary, mother of Jesus.
@MIDRATZ "I noticed you didnt mention pedophiles, bestiality, murderers, thieves, etc."
These ridiculous arguments are irrelevant. All of the items you mentioned are crimes which hurt people. Sexual orientation is not a crime and does not hurt people.
"sodomy is a crime, sodomites are criminals just as much as these others I listed."
I think you're living in the wrong century. Anti-sodomy laws (which affected straight people too, by the way) were declared unconstitutional decades ago.
@TheStrong32 Wrong. Drug, seat belt, helmet laws, ad infinitum are all an example where the govt steps in and penalizes someone for hurting themselves, or an effort at the prevention thereof. Homosexuality leads to emptiness. No legitimate offspring. The spread of AIDS. Deep depression. (if you dont see than then your not looking - talk to any psycologist who counsels homo's) Its unhealthy perversion plain and simple no matter how you try and spin it.
@MIDRATZ "Homosexuality leads to emptiness. No legitimate offspring. The spread of AIDS. Deep depression."
Sorry, none of the conditions you mention are limited to homosexuality, nor is the ANY scientific evidence that homosexuality, per se, leads to any of them. There are thousands of healthy, happy homosexuals who have none of these problems.
@TheStrong32 ""Homosexuality leads to ... No legitimate offspring."
You are wrong again.
(1) The vast majority of homosexuals (both gays and lesbians) are perfectly capable of reproducing naturally, through methods that are equally available to straight couples--in-vitro fertilization, surrogacy, etc. All of these offspring are legitimate.
(2) Gay couples are capable of adopting, and adopted children are considered legitimate.
@TheStrong32 At best this is a 50% legitimacy as it is not his partners egg. Only a godless relativistic humanist could see this as healthy alternative. As for gay adoption - this is child abuse as every child deserves to be raised by a normal mother and father (as in a man and a woman- [amazing in this dark day and age, one has clarify the self evident]). Anything else is twisted confusion. & don't try some lame argument about kids being fine with single parents. Its not optimal & U know it.
@TheStrong32 homosexuality isnt the leading cause of the spread of AIDS? What planet do you live on?
One could say there are thousands of happy pedosexuals. And there probably are. Thousands of happy necropheliacs. Thousands of happy murderers. Hell, there are probably thousands of people that get off eating excrement. What the hell does that prove? Sothing. Man's sick ability to numb conscious to a state of "happiness" while living in gross perversion does not justify or vilify the perversion
@MIDRATZ "(if you dont see than then your not looking - talk to any psycologist who counsels homo's) Its unhealthy perversion plain and simple no matter how you try and spin it."
No reputable psychologist thinks homosexuality is unhealthy. Apparantly the only people you accept as "psychologists" are members of fringe groups like the highly discredited NARTH or quacks like Paul Cameron. Try looking at some real science.
@TheStrong32 So a storied list of legitimate psychologists, just as lettered and studied as any others that hold the traditional view on homosexuality are now quacks? Fact.There's more psychological case study that it is unhealthy than healthy. The truth is just being suppressed for political reasons. The only reason it even has a foothold now is because the homo's screamed their tantrums long and hard till enough people in power said "alright, fine, suck your c0ck, just shut up already"
@TheStrong32. Why don't you address the point? A person who lusts the same sex is oriented sexually towards the same sex. That's a Sexual Orientation. A man who lusts after children is oriented sexually towards children. Also a sexual orientation. Insert all sorts of sick substitutes for the normal healthy opposite sex. Animals. The dead. etc. Why don't you defend them all? This exposes the homo for what they are - flawed, demented, perverts needing of counseling & treatment not encouragement.
@MIDRATZ "Animals. The dead. etc. Why don't you defend them all?"
I have no need to defend them all. Each of them can be argued on its own merits (or lack thereof). But that's not the discussion we are having here. Whenever an anit-gay activist starts using the "slippery slope" argument, I know he's running out of things to say, so he has to change the subject. Trying to muddy the watters. Sorry. Stick to the subject or say goodbye.
@MIDRATZ "Wrong. Drug, seat belt, helmet laws, ad infinitum are all an example where the govt steps in and penalizes someone for hurting themselves."
Homosexuality does not hurt anybody. Risky behavior hurts people, whether they are straight, gay or bi.
"Homosexuality leads to emptiness." No more than heterosexuality does.
"No legitimate offspring." Homosexuals are just as capable of reproducing as anyone else. Surrogacy, sperm doners, etc. Heterosexuals make use of these means also.
@MIDRATZ "The spread of AIDS." Homosexuality does not cause AIDS. Risky behavoir causes AIDS. Worldwide, 85% of all new infections of HIV come about as the result of HETEROSEXUAL activity. AIDS is not a gay disease--it's just a disease.
"talk to any psycologist who counsels homo's" I have. A number of them. None of them support your views.
I am proud to have Bob McDonald as my governor! Gays are abominations!
FinalFantasyGirl151 6 months ago
what Goes against God's word Is wrong.....
woggypaula 1 year ago
@woggypaula "what Goes against God's word Is wrong....."
You are welcome to your religious opinion, but you do not have a right to impose your beliefs on those who do not belong to your religious group. Seperation of church and state is enshrined in the Constitution. A religious argument is irrelevent when discussion public policy.
TheStrong32 1 year ago
Are these guys from VA ? Obama is against guy marriage . Plus if you fired some one for being gay or trans you would be sued big time .
jaay334 1 year ago
@ritasfotosdotcom
OH NOES THE SCARY GUYS ARE GOING TO BUTTFUCK IN MY LIVING ROOM
Do you ever listen to yourself
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk I noticed you cant ever debate me on my talking points (because you cant, at least not intelligently, mayb because your secret lust for nuts clouds your thinking process) so you change the thread or go back to these childish comments here. Who's the 5 year old?
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
Your talking points? Is this a joke? Your "talking points" are all about how you hate homosexuality. Why? For what reason? You never provide any evidence or rationality to back up your claim that the scary scary gays are destroying your country. You haven't provided any examples of how gay marriage affects you at all in any way. You haven't given any talking points, you've just spouted a bunch of crazy bullshit.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk You havent seen my talking points? Maybe get the jiz out of your eyes so you can see my posts? They are there. Address them, or leave the discussion. All you seem to be able to do is employ your selective hearing and try to redirect the attacks on me - same old tactics of the left. So - aside from repeating my points on taxes, their organized invasion of schools, military, media, churches, etc how about their wanton spreading of AIDS across the world and their freeze on procreation.
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
Again, provide rational backup for your points or stop pretending to have a real argument.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk w ww dot cnsnews dot com/news/article/58867 ... 898 MILLION reasons enough "RATIONALE"? for you?
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
But you've got no problem giving away all this money to other people. As long as they're straight.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk yup! legal its an earned benefit for those of legitimate marriage between a man and a woman.
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
A legitimacy you won't extend to gay people because...oh wait, I forgot, you don't have a reason.
"Hurr durr, gay people are bad because they cost too much money. That wouldn't be a problem except they're gay hurr durr"
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk Yes, I dont support two butt buddies from taking money out of my pocket under the guise of marriage benefits - not exactly a stretch there canuk. Why are you even on this forum? not enough socialist 'reform' left to do with your socialist country so now you gotta try and ruin ours as well? Just know, that once the socialists, fags, tree huggers, aetheists, illegal aliens (canadian and mexican) and terrorists (all friends of yours im sure) ruin the US, all you leaches will die too.
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
You know what would save even more money? Making all marriage illegal! What? You only want gay marriage to be illegal? Well, that's because you're a big fucking hypocrite!
You still have yet to provide an ideological reason for why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. Instead you toss around conjecture about how I'm gay, a socialist, and friends with terrorists.
You, and people like you, are the reason the world laughs at America. Sorry.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk says the backwards canuk as he crosses our border for decent medical care (at least until Osama makes it as lame as yours). lol. laugh it up dumbass - but the truth is, the only ones laughing are losers who think dudes porking dudes is normal, healthy and cant see how utterly sick and unnatural it is. It doesnt need a reason - it speaks for itself. Thats like asking for a reason why pedophilia or bestiality is wrong. Its just as disgusting and self evident.
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
I actually have great medical care, I just dropped in for an appointment earlier today. Speedy, professional and completely free. But I guess efficient and cost-effective healthcare isn't really big in America, what with it being EVIL EVIL COMMUNISM and all that
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk Now you remove all doubt ur an idiot. 1) nothings free. That "free care" you got was paid by your high tax burden, then supplemented off the back of an advanced earner who is being penalized even more % wise to take up your slack. 2) yes you can get the sniffles in Canada and not die. But dont get really sick or something unusual or need it fast. WHO ranked US at #1 and Canada #7 in "quality and expediency of care" worldwide. Our docs get paid 2x as much but provide 7x the service.
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
Actually, pooling money for healthcare is the most cost-effective way to do it; I've already paid for, through my taxes, my own healthcare many times over, as well as someone else's.
BTW, the WHO ranks the United States as 37th in the world, a fair ways behind Canada. But if you guys buck yourselves up maybe you can catch up to Saudi Arabia (26th) or Colombia (22nd). I guess it's a little sad that you're losing to third world countries, but such is the price of stupidity.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
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@dylantuzyk Even your own" father of Canadian socialized healthcare" says it SUVs, is in crisis and needs to privatize to survive: thedaleygator.wordpress.c om/2008/06/30/man-who-created-canadian-health-care-admits-that-it-sucks/ but then who needs facts messing up lazy peoples free ride. In America we'd chose how we spend our own money rather than being forced to incentivize the lazy to be even more lazy.
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
Link's broken, but who needs proof messing up a great rant amirite? Incidentally, look up "appeal to authority" and why you shouldn't be doing it, then respond.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk Its not a link, I had to modify the URL to get past YouTube's filters. Just type the ww w and ht tp junk in and youll have all the proof you need that your health care system is guaranteed to completely fail over time. Its a simple calculation of more output than input. Socialist systems only appear to work day to day because they have a healthy capitalist free enterprise system (like ours) to tap into. If all you dumbass socialists succeed in sucking it dry, the world will die.
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
I did that; right below the astonishingly catchy and witty "If you're left, you're not right!" is the message telling me the article doesn't exist.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk "The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money." - Margaret Thatcher
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
Yep, if there's one person whose word I'd take on this, it's definitely Margaret Thatcher.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
A dude that likes to suck off dudes is sick! I should be allowed to descriminate that. It's gross!! You like to stik your bone in another hairy dudes hairy ass? Frigging disgusting! Why would I want someone that demented in my place of business that I worked so hard to build? Who are you to force your disgusting sick demented "lifestyle" on me? Who the f are you? Your in my business that I built! Your fired! Get the f off of my property you twisted f!
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
"Who are you to force your disgusting sick demented "lifestyle" on me?"
Nobody's forcing you to buttfuck another guy. Conversely, you don't force other people to fuck your hideous wife. It's that simple
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk Clearly your defective queer mind is corrupted. You fags force your ways into my wallet, my TV, my Movies and my Military. You take my tax dollars with your illegitimate "marriages" and the assoc. govt benefits. 2) you queers have overrun hollywood. you cant watch a show now that doesnt try and cast queers in a good light 3)your force yourself into my military forcing me to endure your flaming disgusting ways in my berthings, bathrooms and foxholes.There's a lot more, Shall I go on?
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
a) I'm not gay
b) What are you, five? Grow a sick and quit bitching. Jesus, the whining that comes out of you people
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk So...your whining that I am whining? lol. Maturity to you means caving to the homo's advances? That's permissiveness, not maturity.
I'm about as close to being 5 as you are to being straight. If you haven't sucked penis yet you will with all that bleeding heart sympathy you give to the defective sex - which is the goal of their campaign - to recruit a larger pool of misfits to suck. buncha sicko's.
BTW - my wife is f-ing hot, so I don't know what you are talking about queer-bait.
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
I'm not the one that's bitching about somebody else even existing. Unfortunately, the reality of the world is that there's going to be people that you don't like, but you're going to have to deal with them. Be a man and stop complaining about things that don't concern you in the slightest. Tolerate them like the rest of the world tolerates you.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk I dont know what world you live it but they are not quietly existing. They are on a hell bent campaign of aggressive recruiting with their in-your-face "parades" of filth, they have invaded our top notch cities, our government, our boy scouts, our military (any where there is fresh meat). they are a disgusting pox on our society - and it concerns me and every straight person out there as they seek no only "equality" (while yet being defective) but extra rights & privileges. wake up!
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
Fantastic. They can have all the rights they want. They can have a big rights parade down the street with a massive rights cake and rights candles. See, I'm fine with gay people doing whatever they want, as long as nothing they do infringes on MY rights (oh, and hurting your itty-bitty feelings doesn't count as infringing on your rights, btw). I'm what you'd call "conservative" on that point, unlike yourself and the rest of the nutcases that have hijacked the term.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk taxes spent on fags because they are fags (medical, civil, social expenses) invade my right to keep what I earn. Having lunch with my kids at a stret cafe and the filthy fags parade NY with their obnoxious whistles and wearing nothing but cock socks invades just about every right I have. You think sodomy is ok and IM the nutjob? That's rich. Your a closet qeer. Admit it
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
You miss the point. I don't have to think it's okay because nobody's making me do it. What I think is irrelevant.
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk Citizens are either part of the solution or part of the problem. There is no in between. You cant stick your head in the sand and say its none of my concern. That's how crazy socialists like Osama get voted in - by sleepy people like you. Same with the fags. If there is no opposition, there is no end to what they will require of us to grow their obscene campaign. They will continue to invade our schools and corrupt and recruit our kids. Your live and let live mentality makes you a -1
jasonblu 1 year ago
@jasonblu
Do you want me to copy and paste my response to this too?
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ
Also, medical expenses spent on fags, lolwat
dylantuzyk 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk what a pathetic argument. hitler existed. Pedophiles exist. Murderers exist. Under your argument we need to tolerate everyone. In fact queer lovers like you tell people to tolerate everyone except your so called 'homophobes'. again your diseased mind is affecting your ability to adequately debate an already decided subject: Homo's are immoral reprobates that need treatment, just like all the other sexual perversions out there,
MIDRATZ 9 months ago
That's what you get when you elect a jesus freak.
davidls11 2 years ago
Look it is so difficult to prove why these biggots do what they do. If I went to court every time an employer broke the law I would never get any work done.
WOuld love to live in a perfect world but just cause it is on a law book don't mean they will adhere to the law they will do as they feel no matter what. I have had transportation companies force me to drive 3 days straight no sleep even though the law is clear that you were not to drive more than 10 hours in a sitting but they did it.
cdltpx 2 years ago
Exactly, Bryce, your point rang out soooo lound to me and I hope to other viewers,
that, It doesnt matter if your pro or con on the issue , IT'S NOT RIGHT TO DISCRIMINATE BASED ON GENDER, OR SOMEONES PRIVATE SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
And that's exactly what's being done today! I mean, It's gays today, tomorrow it could be , atheists, "elitists",non christians, You seen how quick the Bush administration called ppl 'traitor" and "unamerican".
POWERSTATIONIII 2 years ago 3
@POWERSTATIONIII - you sound as if there is NOTHING that should be discriminated against. I noticed you didnt mention pedophiles, bestiality, murderers, thieves, etc...sodomy is a crime, sodomites are criminals just as much as these others I listed. No amount of word twisting will change that homo is wrong, illegal, unnatural and just plain sick as pedophilia...in fact its MORE sick since many 13 -16 year old's in history have had healthy productive married lives. i.e. Mary, mother of Jesus.
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ "I noticed you didnt mention pedophiles, bestiality, murderers, thieves, etc."
These ridiculous arguments are irrelevant. All of the items you mentioned are crimes which hurt people. Sexual orientation is not a crime and does not hurt people.
"sodomy is a crime, sodomites are criminals just as much as these others I listed."
I think you're living in the wrong century. Anti-sodomy laws (which affected straight people too, by the way) were declared unconstitutional decades ago.
TheStrong32 1 year ago
@TheStrong32 Wrong. Drug, seat belt, helmet laws, ad infinitum are all an example where the govt steps in and penalizes someone for hurting themselves, or an effort at the prevention thereof. Homosexuality leads to emptiness. No legitimate offspring. The spread of AIDS. Deep depression. (if you dont see than then your not looking - talk to any psycologist who counsels homo's) Its unhealthy perversion plain and simple no matter how you try and spin it.
Pedosexuality is just another orientation.
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ "Homosexuality leads to emptiness. No legitimate offspring. The spread of AIDS. Deep depression."
Sorry, none of the conditions you mention are limited to homosexuality, nor is the ANY scientific evidence that homosexuality, per se, leads to any of them. There are thousands of healthy, happy homosexuals who have none of these problems.
TheStrong32 1 year ago
@TheStrong32 ""Homosexuality leads to ... No legitimate offspring."
You are wrong again.
(1) The vast majority of homosexuals (both gays and lesbians) are perfectly capable of reproducing naturally, through methods that are equally available to straight couples--in-vitro fertilization, surrogacy, etc. All of these offspring are legitimate.
(2) Gay couples are capable of adopting, and adopted children are considered legitimate.
TheStrong32 1 year ago
@TheStrong32 At best this is a 50% legitimacy as it is not his partners egg. Only a godless relativistic humanist could see this as healthy alternative. As for gay adoption - this is child abuse as every child deserves to be raised by a normal mother and father (as in a man and a woman- [amazing in this dark day and age, one has clarify the self evident]). Anything else is twisted confusion. & don't try some lame argument about kids being fine with single parents. Its not optimal & U know it.
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@TheStrong32 homosexuality isnt the leading cause of the spread of AIDS? What planet do you live on?
One could say there are thousands of happy pedosexuals. And there probably are. Thousands of happy necropheliacs. Thousands of happy murderers. Hell, there are probably thousands of people that get off eating excrement. What the hell does that prove? Sothing. Man's sick ability to numb conscious to a state of "happiness" while living in gross perversion does not justify or vilify the perversion
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ "(if you dont see than then your not looking - talk to any psycologist who counsels homo's) Its unhealthy perversion plain and simple no matter how you try and spin it."
No reputable psychologist thinks homosexuality is unhealthy. Apparantly the only people you accept as "psychologists" are members of fringe groups like the highly discredited NARTH or quacks like Paul Cameron. Try looking at some real science.
TheStrong32 1 year ago
@TheStrong32 So a storied list of legitimate psychologists, just as lettered and studied as any others that hold the traditional view on homosexuality are now quacks? Fact.There's more psychological case study that it is unhealthy than healthy. The truth is just being suppressed for political reasons. The only reason it even has a foothold now is because the homo's screamed their tantrums long and hard till enough people in power said "alright, fine, suck your c0ck, just shut up already"
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ "Pedosexuality is just another orientation."
"Pedosexuality", huh? This is an excellent example of how you--and those like you--just make it up as you go along.
TheStrong32 1 year ago
@TheStrong32. Why don't you address the point? A person who lusts the same sex is oriented sexually towards the same sex. That's a Sexual Orientation. A man who lusts after children is oriented sexually towards children. Also a sexual orientation. Insert all sorts of sick substitutes for the normal healthy opposite sex. Animals. The dead. etc. Why don't you defend them all? This exposes the homo for what they are - flawed, demented, perverts needing of counseling & treatment not encouragement.
MIDRATZ 1 year ago
@MIDRATZ "Animals. The dead. etc. Why don't you defend them all?"
I have no need to defend them all. Each of them can be argued on its own merits (or lack thereof). But that's not the discussion we are having here. Whenever an anit-gay activist starts using the "slippery slope" argument, I know he's running out of things to say, so he has to change the subject. Trying to muddy the watters. Sorry. Stick to the subject or say goodbye.
TheStrong32 9 months ago
@MIDRATZ "Wrong. Drug, seat belt, helmet laws, ad infinitum are all an example where the govt steps in and penalizes someone for hurting themselves."
Homosexuality does not hurt anybody. Risky behavior hurts people, whether they are straight, gay or bi.
"Homosexuality leads to emptiness." No more than heterosexuality does.
"No legitimate offspring." Homosexuals are just as capable of reproducing as anyone else. Surrogacy, sperm doners, etc. Heterosexuals make use of these means also.
TheStrong32 9 months ago
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@MIDRATZ "The spread of AIDS." Homosexuality does not cause AIDS. Risky behavoir causes AIDS. Worldwide, 85% of all new infections of HIV come about as the result of HETEROSEXUAL activity. AIDS is not a gay disease--it's just a disease.
"talk to any psycologist who counsels homo's" I have. A number of them. None of them support your views.
TheStrong32 9 months ago