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  • @treid100182

    What an ass. Bob Dylan sang Woody Guthrie songs early in his career but he always gave Guthrie credit. However your statement of how he "made a career" is completely false. Dylan made his career on his genius songwriting. all of his best and most famous songs were written and performed by him. Songs like "A hard rains gonna fall", "Blowin in the wind" and most importantly "Like a Rolling stone".

    Get your facts straight before raging on the greatest songwriter of all time.

  • WOW ... this could be the most pretentious moment I've ever seen.

    Bob Dylan, CONGRATULATIONS!!!

    You made a career by blatantly STEALING the songs of Woody Guthrie and Ramblin' Jack Elliott ... and marketing them in such a way that, other than actual people who have dealt with hard living, the middle-class could sink their dirty teeth into it.

    HACKS ... Ginsberg ROBBED Whitman and Kerouac.

  • Where is Ginsberg's grave?

  • @lionsome actually, if i were that journalist, i would've laid into the snotty little brat--not with a slap up the side of the head, which would be tempting, but with good sober reasoning...something dylan doesn't seem to have too much of.

  • @lionsome i remember a vid on dylan raking this poor time magazine journalist over the coals. he told the polite man that his work, his publication has no truth. what arrogance, i thought. dylan's clearly got his head up his ass. come on, to say journalists from time magazine and every other publication is a joke, is incredibly egomaniacal on dylan's part. i'm sure time mag has lost journalists searching for the truth. here, a young journalist lady for my paper was killed in afganistan

  • @lionsome Sad, old man? Frightening? You need to get outside more, there's nothing frightening about his voice. You've become accustomed to hearing pop voices, but before the 50's there was real blues, real folk, singers that sang songs without even the faintest hint of commerciality. Those singers, to quote a song off Dylan's last album, had the "blood of the land" in their voice.

  • And both did do much for Srila Prabhupada.

    PrabhupadaVani. org

  • god, what happened to The Fugs? they sound rough.

  • NAME! Here lies one whose NAME was writ in water.

  • Here lies one who's fame was writ in water.

  • dylan insisted on a remarkable celebrity life...then has the audacity to wish for an unmarked grave. ha, he wants to be special there, too, somehow. zzzz... jesus, these fucking egocentric celebrities. never listened to his music anyway. mahler was way better. each to their own, i guess.

  • @vinnynumbnuts The audacity? I don't see how anyone's wishes for what's to be done with their bodies once their dead could be audacious. I think having an unmarked grave is the complete opposite of egocentric, but as you said to each their own.

  • @ElGoodo well, bob dylan, in my view, is so egocentric as a music star, icon and cultural influence, i find his supposed humility of wanting an unmarked grave, to be somewhat disingenuous, which is really just bob being bob in wanting to somehow stand out as being something special, away from the norm of marked graves shared by the vast vast majority of people in america. a psychological thing i pick up from him when he said that to ginsberg. cheesy, too. but that's just my opinion. ha.

  • @vinnynumbnuts We'll we obviously have two very different views. Dylan never desired to be anything but himself. Him saying that he wants an unmarked grave was just Dylan being Dylan. It's a thing to say, who knows if he truly meant it. All Bob ever did was write songs that said things he felt needed to be said, he never called himself a star, icon or cultural influence. Those are the words of people who don't have a life of their own to worry about.

  • @ElGoodo well, there were two dylans, as described in howard sounes' bio book, "down the highway: the life of bob dylan." in it there's "dylan in everyday life who had elements of being awkward, withdrawn, manipulative, spiteful, EGOCENTRIC, and chauvinistic; yet with a guitar in his hand he was transformed into a much greater person." but the two are still the same guy, and dylan had to know he was a very big star in music with much social influence and be effected by it & vice versa.

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  • @vinnynumbnuts Yeah, its strange that he (apparently) never met Kerouac. Considering he was at the height of his fame while Kerouac was still alive and hung out with the beat crowd a lot, especially Ginsberg who is so closely connected to Kerouac. It just seems so strange! And nobody on the internet seems to ask the question either. I can only assume Kerouac wasn't interested in meeting him?

  • @ElGoodo the book where the quote comes from was first published to international critical acclaim in 2001, which gives a complete picture of the man as well as a performer and artist. it's based on in-depth ORIGINAL research, including hundreds of interviews with dylan's closest associates; so you can forget your idea of the 60's interviews where the interviewer tells dylan who and what he is. i think it's silly to say the man was just a humble song and dance man. he knew his greatness

  • @vinnynumbnuts Can anyone know their greatness? Do you have that much of an objective self opinion of yourself as to distinguish yourself great or not great? Obviously people who aren't Dylan can think they know who he is and what he stands for but only Dylan really knows. You seem to place high value in what others think, say and believe judging by your reference to other peoples opinions, Dylan didn't and doesn't care what others think about him and that's what's so great about him.

  • @ElGoodo forget the subjective drivel about "can anyone know their greatness?" put it this way, if dylan doesn't know that he is one of the great singers with much influence musically, politically, socially, etc., which, in fact, happened, then he's has got to be an idiot in the strict medical sense. i think he's an icon. what are you afraid of? greatness in personal ability and achievement does exist. wayne gretzsky knows he's the great one in hockey, but he downplays it.

  • @ElGoodo also, go listen to the youtube interview "bob dylan interview," uploaded by dylanfan543. in it, dylan says himself that "if you want to find out about someone, ask other people. your life speaks for itself--if you done good things, people will spread the news, & if you done bad things, people will spread the news, too." so you see, dylan also gives validity to what others think of him, which a good biographer is all too aware of. the self-report approach can be quite inaccurate

  • @vinnynumbnuts I didn't say he doesn't acknowledge his place in music, but I just don't think he dwells on it like you seem to think he does. And did Gretzky coin the term "the great one" I don't think he did and I'm sure the first thought he has when he wakes up isn't "i'm the great one" it's probably something mundane, you know like a normal human being. But somethings happening here and you don't know what it is, do you Mr. Jones?

  • @ElGoodo well there you go. if he has acknowledgement of his place in music, which is a great one, then obviously the man knows of his greatness in music. same for gretzsky. one doesn't have to explicitly dwell on it when waking up, etc. it's basically a self-awareness packed away in the subconscious. "the great one," is merely a cute phrase eventually attached to gretzsky after he clearly demonstrated and knew his greatness in hockey by smashing more records than anyone else.

  • @ElGoodo now earlier, i said dylan was disingenuous with regard to his remark about wanting an unmarked grave. i said i meant this as "opinion," which being opinion, could be wrong. your suggestion that dylan may not've meant it, could be correct. also, my opinion or intuitive impression hinged off of my view that the man is egocentric and arrogant, which you vehemently disagree with. i gave you my reasons, which you haven't really rebuked. maybe mr. jones knows a little somethin', eh?

  • Did Dylan ever actually MEET Kerouac? He (Dylan) would have been hanging around with Ginsberg before Kerouac died, so yeah I just wondered whether they ever met, considering it was one of his idols/inspirations

  • @blablablablabla951 Not sure if he actually met him, but he was hugely influenced by his book "On the Road."

  • That was a pretentious 1:23

  • Bob Dylan is inauthentic.

  • @HailSagan4Realz what do you mean, why ? I know no one who speaks so autenthic as dylan

  • @manwithouthat44 Furp----->His name isn't even 'Dylan'.

  • @HailSagan4Realz well ok you got me there. but besides that....

  • @manwithouthat44 Well, besides that, did you see that documentary where Donovan took a swing at him because he was being a condescending twat? or where he's toying with some star struck reporter and mockingly fucking with him in a mean spirited way? 'Ha ha, I'm a rock star and you're some puny nobody,cat and mouse time!' I mean, 'inauthentic' is just my way of saying 'the public persona I have experienced of Bob Zimmerman is repulsive and ego driven and fake ....to me'.

  • @HailSagan4Realz did Donovan take a swing at him?

  • @HailSagan4Realz Donovan never took a swing at him, I own that documentary. Bob was mad because some drunken idiot threw a wine glass at a taxi and he was trying to find out who it was. So he starts questioning some guy and since theyre both drunk it starts getting pretty heated. Donovan is just sitting on the couch and offers to help Bob clean up the glass. And Bob was def a jerk to that reporter but at that time he was just sick of all this pressure and seediness from the media.

  • @HailSagan4Realz who gives a shit? its just music.

  • Is it me, or does Ginsberg remind of Tommy Chong.

  • Just wow

  • Sometimes 2 talented people still add up to 1 boring scene.

    But that's okay. Today it would have been scripted and linked to various marketing campaigns & platforms.

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  • gay

  • Ti Jean is French for Uncle John.

  • nice hat

  • Two giants standing at the grave of a third.

    Anybody know what the words "Ti Jean" on Kerouac's grave mean?

  • @briteness That was Kerouac's nickname.

  • @briteness

    Actually 'Ti Jean is more French Canadian for "Little John". "Uncle John" would be Tonton Jean.

  • bobby will never die

  • Did they ever bump uglies? 

  • Mr. Dylan: you were hot back then! OW OW!

  • "Stella his Wife"

    What a terrible epitaph

  • One upping each other on famous grave visits

  • Happy Birthday Bob - may you stay Forever Young!

  • how great to  see that

  • pretty sure it is 'here lies one who's name was writ on water' on keats' grave, not 'fame was writ..'

  • @cha1tman The full epitaph is:

    This Grave contains all that was mortal, of a YOUNG ENGLISH POET, who on his Death Bed, in the Bitterness of his heart, at the Malicious Power of his enemies, desired these words to be Engraven on his Tomb Stone

    Here lies one whose name was writ in water

  • @FailBetterMusic kewl interesting

  • only due to its origin could exist in the music, what of that strength that they want to make him a star when it is no talent

  • I know someone who shagged Allen Ginsberg........ so yeah...... 'beat' that

  • @TheHappydead Is it a guy?

  • @Kullg4r yeah, in the 60s he went over to a hippy commune in california and induldged in a bit of free love, haha, the funny thing is he later got married and had some kids ........... they dont know but, imagine knowing your dad fucked allen ginsberg ............... ridiculous

  • @TheHappydead lol

  • @Kullg4r lol indeed

  • @TheHappydead

    Pictures or it didnt happen

  • the horley wind in which our minds eye operates can be only matched by the inner phantoms relentless strive upon a system that refuses change...........

  • fumigaters climagate, defecaters procreate, interrogaters fornigate and masterbaters defecate............

  • children fornicate, adults procreate, animals defecate, thinkers masturbate

  • allan ginsberg and bob dylan talk about death. yes. yes. this is what i've been looking for.

  • This is for you Danny!

  • What seperates Ginzberg from the rest of us? His entire life was built upon the castle of cards called poetry. He was never one of us. . .nor should we expect him to be. Howl is a great poem (I believe it to be one of the greatest poems). Unless you can can come up with a more powerful line than, "I saw the best minds of my generation walking through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix," keep quiet. You're walking on sacred ground. Fred the Existentialist

  • @philosophy9949 Very well said...

  • yeah, all of them are either homos, drunks, drugies or just plain idiots. ALL OF THEM.

  • @aantero You're right .But, it's because they don't work with their hands.The saying is idle hands are the devil's

    workshop.The same goes with all the drug addict actors.

  • the best parks and the most entertaining are grave yards, it's too bad most of them are guarded

  • haveing grown up with the beat poets-i came of age-reading the words of william s brroughs-a master of the written word-along with such i fell to the needles sharp embrace-lost to the dragon muse of junk sickness-the poets became even more a part of my existance-which led me to filmaking-my way out and back-now with the knowlage of over 30 years of experance words flow forth-you knock the beats without knowing them-maybe when you have something happen in your life.that grabs your soul youl write

  • @aantero You shouldn't advertise your ignorance and stupidity so loudly. It really isn't doing you a single favour.

  • @aantero Wow. I take it that you are a fool.

  • No, this gorgeous fool is obviously a poet :)

  • @aantero i second the fool, though fool make be too kind

  • @aantero someone who actually asks how to live his day to day live saying fuck the people who do know- must be a bummer for the people around you being there.

  • hey bro lets go check out some graves

  • @sgtmcwallace Maybe you should just shut the hell up.

  • Hippie pissing match.

  • I want my stone to read: This bed is cold... but I so love it... For far colder are the hearts Of my family above it

  • Dylan, Ginsberg, the late Jack....absolutly remarkable!!!!!

  • Hahahaha. this is the best video on youtube. dylan and GINSBERG talking about Graves... ahahaa

  • dirty ol pervert

  • Poetry and Dylan fans, i made a tribute to great tragic artists/poets. It's called the broken and the beautiful.

  • What. The . F.

  • I saw Ginnie @ a poetry reading in Texas, I thought it was going to be hokey but it was a packed house and he was one of funniest performers I have ever seen. He was not embarrassed or self conscious about anything he was saying or wanted to say and the whole time a big fat mexican guy was just constantly laughing which made it funnier.

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  • I would love to visit Ti Jean's grave. I've visited many graves too... and yes, Dylan's should be an unmarked grave... I've seen what happened to Jim and Jimmy's. They were grand friends... I'm currently reading their correspondence from the late 40s trough the 60s.... brilliant stuff.

  • u'r wanna be in an unmarked grave?

  • creativity aLIVE. IF YOU LIKE VISIT MY JOB Too..c iA o

  • "so is this whats gonna happen to you?" lol

  • i also wonna be in a unmarked grave to

  • Nice video, keep it coming. New release of BRANDON JAROD late OCT. AMAZING!

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  • @Rangasur Vote Up

  • @Rangasur its cemetery you mindless jackass. next time you try to make fun of two the the greatest minds of our generation make sure, at the very least, that your spelling is correct. Foooool

  • @Rangasur cemetery you dumbass fag!

  • @rolling Oenone shut your mouth hoe

  • Anyone else think that bob Dylan on pawn stars was cool?

  • Ginsberg Big Soul who 's influences on and connection with Kesey, the Dead, Snyder... birthed renaissance of hipster from beats and extended to Dylan & the Beatles beauties and existential awe of acid legal but known to a few doctors and seekers of whom he early and gifted with the lift for which I remain grateful...

  • Whats the poem Allen is reading in the beginning

  • dylan should go to ginsberg's grave today and be like " i see your grave Allen" and then laugh and run away

  • Come on Ginz. It's "Here lies one whose NAME is writ in water"

  • @FedorEight ... and who are you?

  • @red5media I'm an ATP tennis pro. It says so in my profile. You CAN read, right...?

    I also have one of the biggest bullshit-detector implants of all time. And no creatures register as high on my bullshit radar than Marxist creatures.

  • @FedorEight I can read just fine. I read right through you.

  • @red5media Don't read through me, read WITH me.

    I agree with your username though: it sure is a "red" media out there...

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  • Bob Dylan sees Ginsberg messing with his beard after he asks if he's seen chekov's grave, and he looked away kind doing that lip thing he always does.

  • dylan was probably just stoned lol

  • wow,

  • i don't think i will be able to handle the day bob does die, it brings me chills also... But Bob will not die until his music dies, music is Bob Dylan, or if he's forgotten for, well forever, I hope he will never be forgotten, that man deserves to never be left out of peoples' minds'

  • Too bad Bob's voice died decades before his performing did.

  • see: Os Velhos da Montanha

  • What graves have you seen?

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  • I went there in January of this year. One of the most surreal days of my life. RIP Jack.

  • was that kerouacs dad??

  • I remember many a day, on Memorial Day, going to that same grave yard which is called Edson Cemetery in Lowell, MA. Where my Grandfather & Grandmother & Uncle are all buried. I wonder what year Dylan & Ginsberg visited Jacks grave.

  • @charlie3384 1974/75 mate

  • Wow...if I were standing there with Ginsberg, Dylan, and the grave of Kerouac, I would probably have a heart attack. I feel so jealous of the cameraman!!!!!!!

  • man. ginsberg is such a nut and such an incredibly nice guy. right now he's having some great conversation with whitman while kerouac drinks on the side.

  • how "intellectually" BORING!!! :))

  • No.... he can't die. Bob will never die!!!

  • Bob Dylan is uneducated and overhyped.

    His movie was such a joke. How does it feel?

    Robbie said the Band would turn Dylan's amp all the way down on stage.

    aka He is a terrible guitar player

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  • Dam bob is sexy

  • he should have put his hat off

  • 0:52

    what graves have you seen.....LOL

  • amazing!!! I adore these poets!!! Changed my entire world!!!

  • I'm having an unparked grave.

  • @davidoffon Y'wan a pockmarked grave ?'s'yours for the asking.

    won't park my lawnmower there then.

  • @PAULLONDEN Would you shed light on your shit an' let it grow a bit?

  • @davidoffon .....he said "unmarked grave"

  • @davidoffon a grave with no available parking. you'll have to walk a couple of miles to get to it.

  • An unremarkable rave?

  • @davidoffon he says unmarked grave

  • @frisbygage My ears are perfect, it's the mind's wanderin'!!

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  • flowers fumigate. jackhammers interrogate. thetan levels climagate. and i am going to masterbate

  • @rusle3 not to this video. dont worry

  • Man, I feel bad for Allan watching this.  It's feels like he's struggling in vain to engage with Dylan. Maybe it's the cameras. God bless them both.

  • @spaceheadsam i would think it's the cameras, myself... you know they hung out together alot. He probably had plenty of time to talk things over without cameras around. I don't know why ginsberg would bother being around dylan so much if he was always so blank...

  • @rothkappchen

    Yeah, I can imagine Dylan not wanting to open up infront of those prying cameras.  Ginsburg seems to want to, though -- such a generous guy... It's pretty moving to see him take on this fatherly role with kid Dylan at the foot of Kerouac's grave.

  • 24-12-2012, r.i.p

    bob dylan

  • are they broothers

  • and you never did dick shit for anything at all so it all works out

  • @xxjesseluthixx

    it's true, xxj, you know me.

  • @padraic13 You can't spell

  • @padraic13 i assume this is sarcasm....and therefore it's funny.

  • @padraic13 Weren't we lucky then and not so now.

  • The coolest part about this video is seeing Jack Kerouac's grave. Ginsberg and dylan are cool as well.

  • yea, right. . .

  • I've been there! One of the most surreal and spiritual experiences of my life...

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  • chocolate miLk is good

  • Ginsberg is stoned out of his box and/or has a bad case of cotton mouth.

  • i want to be an unmarked grave

  • thanx

  • Lord. where desperation meets expectation and the somewhat empty fruit of it all,....

  • Fat chance, Bob.

  • paddis92 : hes reading from on the road by kerouac

  • Ginsberg was one creepy socialist zealot!

  • so different from the dylan of '65

  • Bob Dylan, proving once again, that he can give the impression of being detached and disinterested around pretty much anyone - living or dead. ;) I kid, I kid...who really cares anyway?

  • @burf69

    you're an idiot

  • Look, I'm not going to get into a lengthy, mean-spirited, mudslinging battle with a complete stranger over a comment I made about Bob Dylan. Why? Because I have better things to do with my time. Over and out.