In our crininal justice system, the test for insanity is the inability to tell right from wrong. Bo you know the difference between right and wrong? If not, then you are legally insane.
If you do know the difference between right and wrong, prove it by defining it.
Mcain is great to pull votes off of a Voting Block - all the people brainwashed int thinking Russia or Terror is a problem , OBAMA is more hawkish than Mccain
war is war It Bankruots us
We won the last wars because we styed out of them(traded with both sides) until the waring parties where bankrupt- The Chinese officials can at least READ . Lets get some leaders that can READ. Terrorist is an invention to get people to agree to war.
@captkirkconnell Ever serve? I dont know where you bought the idea that we like war. We get attacked and now we're war hawks? Did the commie left sell you that when you were high?
What makes you think war has to do with trade? And what makes you think I am for free trade? I'm not.
Sure. 9/11 was only a movie. I know because I am from NY and now live 5 minutes from the Pentagon. The WTC is really still there. Those aircraft never really crashed. And truthers are nuts. Sorry dude.
@captkirkconnell Like this war, we were attacked in wars in the past. And Great. Tell the Chinese officials that SLAVERY is alive and well in their country.
If you mean FDR (Fannie), LBJ (Freddie)and Clinton (Sub Primes)along with the the aging super-queer, Barney Frank (downpayments) RUINED this economy with their socialist experiments then - yes, I would agree with you - those old white guys need to go.
Of course now that women are the majority in the US, I am just siked to finally be added to the affirmative action list ;o)~ Now I get to be against the man -the irony.
I am a pretty strong independant woman and I would never vote for a woman president.They all get their emotional,irrational time menstruation once a month and the ones that don't get the menopause..Men are more stable all the way around..
One would need the Rosetta Stone to decipher half of the BS said, not only on this site - but on the campaign trail too. It's a revisionist's tool. They've changed "enlightenment" & redefined it according to their misguided use (or abuse).
America has been under an internal attack of "change" since the early 1900s, circa WW1. The Communist Manifesto was taught us in the military when I served - I wonder if it is still offered as training at all, other than by Harvard / Yale ELITE. good post LT
How did anyone "change" the Enlightenment? I don't follow. It was a band of classical liberal writers and activists, several of whom were atheists or deists, who hated monarchy and wanted freedom. What about that was distorted? Are you gonna say the Enlightenment authors were "devout", so that somehow means the Bible is inherently pro-freedom, despite all the evidence against it in so many verses, not the least of which is his smiting of Sodom and Gomorrah?
Enlightenment was not the result of Liberal Writers and thinkers who wanted freedom. Libs didnt even exist in the 1700s. Not until the 1910s a la Bolshevik Rev.
Enlightenment was result of CHRIST. And the Founders of this Nation Actualized it.
At least you didnt say the 60s...
You tell me--was Independence result of those more devout or more atheist??
I'm familiar with Locke, Thoreau and Kante--who tried to disprove the human spirit.
I'm also familiar w Madison, Adams, Franklin, Washington & Lincoln--each w strong faith & the common sense not to prefer one religion over another.
Given how Catholics came to arrive in the US, I'd say they got that part right. Freedom of Religion does not mean there is no God, but that people can practice as they see fit w/o govt endorsement.
Now the govt endorses Naturalism--another type ideology.
@swiftyread Causeimthsequid is referring to the "Naturalist" not classic liberals. Although some of their writings,(Thoreau etc) was the basis for Marx's Communist Manifesto & socialism. It failed in Russia & allowed for 80M Russians to be murdered by Stalin.
Why? POPULATION CONTOL=MORE FOR EVERYONE. Think long and hard about that in regards of some of the policies today...
Death counseling? Death to babies who survive abortion? Assissted suicide?
Yeah right. Palin is so much a pawn that she had ethics charges brought up on fellow "big oil" Republicans & then elected to give the people of Alaska money back from the windfall profits by the oil companies...she didnt keep it
Democrats that passed the trickle down bail out bill elected to keep any profits & put it towards the debt - instead of giving it back to us in the form of tax cuts or credits.
They want to grow the govt not benefit tax payers.
Whose debt? I pay mine, why should I pay yours too ... or WALL STEETS for that matter...our govt made this problem...LIBERAL DEMOCRATS MADE THE PROBLEM in 1937 - FDR and then 1970 - LBJ, then by Clinton and his sub prime loans -
the poisonous pill is called "sub prime loans" - let Fannie and Freddie Fall 0they didnt work
We have to insure the sub primes & resell them ...thats the only way to fix it - not make rich people, richer!
I am far from sexist. McCain voted against equal pay for women. & She also has more investigations against her that the repubs are trying to keep at bay than I am comfortable with.
No they are the only real leg the Repubs have to stand on with common red neck bigots.
Im not saying you're a lier, Im saying she is lying and the repubs or lying about her skills and knowledge.
Thats not the issue but I believe my priest would say what Im saying. That though abortion may not be the best answer it is up to the individual and their reasons for wanting to do it.
Its ok to have a belief but why should your belief force someone else to live by your rules. Getting an abortion only hurts 2 people the unborn and the mother. Why should it be anyone else's concern?
What is there to lie about? She took on the oil companies & gave windfalls to her people, commissioned the CNG pipeline, took on her own parties - whats to lie about? I am proud of her as you should be too - we need leaders like that, who arent out for #1.
Ask your priest innocently & he will tell you without reprimand. Its unnatural.
You forgot the dad who took part in the kids life - murder is against the law (which is based on the bible) see the Magna Charta/read Tom Payne's Common Sense
What is there to lie about? Her selling the plane on eBay, her wanting to separate Alaska from the US. Her believing in witch hunting. Her lying about the Downs baby being hers and not Bristol's. Her trying to avoid the investigations against her. Her trying to say Obama is a terrorist and that anyone choosing to vote for him is unpatriotic. Her exaggerating her readiness for VP when Alaska has less than 10,000 people, nearly all of them are white (no diversity like the rest of the US).
Besides - abortion is a mortal sin my man...no priest on earth will tell you any different. It is a sin that has no absolution..no penance. If you vote for a pro choice candidate youre committing a grave sin - it is what it is.
Speaking as a peson that went to catholic school from 3rd grade to grad I was not taught that abortion was a moral sin. I was taught what I have been telling you, that it's between the person and God.
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.71 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.72"
My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.73
2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion is gravely contrary to the moral law: You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.74
God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.75
2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life.
Stop trying to tell me about my life just because my answers fly in the face what you thought. Im not denying what you're saying is incorrect, but what Im saying is that doesnt and shouldnt make it a law that forces people to do what others believe is right when it doesnt effect them.
Im not misrepresenting anything, Im just telling you what I learned.
I vote for people's God given rights to do whatever they want to do as long as it doesnt harm anyone else outside the issue.
Tattoos are a sin too by the bible's code, as is pre-maritial sex and homo-sexuality. But people practice these things as well. Smoking cigerettes wearing cotton blends and inter religious marriage.
Where will it end? When we decide for ourselves and not let an old book written by men tell us everything.
I posted the Church's doctrine -its right there w/ a link.
If a layperson told you that abortion is b/t God & women, then you ought to report it.
If it was a priest, I suggest you report it to the Bishop of your diocese immediately.
Misleading the flock is not okay.
Its about the promotion of snuffing out the light- INNOCENT unborn lives. We are Gods creation & man is not allowed to take it w/ abortion. Pic an abortion, what the cry sounds like-is it wrong to U? Then why vote for it?
Oh please, "snuffing out the light-innocent unborn lives" Im supposed to be the bleeding-heart liberal here not you. Which is my point. You care more about the poor- innocent unborn more than the poor, under-educated, single parent, living in below the poverty-line living minorities that wind up in prison when this white controlled society fails them and they turn into the people on death row. Why abortion so wrong but capital punishment isnt? Its still a God created life that man destroys.
Child - I love just like anyone else does. Matter of fact I am ALL HEART & sacrificed for you already.
"INNOCENT" - try to grasp this, people have the right to manifest what they want for themselves & we give to charity to help the needy - -not to a govt to use my money to kill the INNOCENT.
"We will over take Amrica from with in without everfiring a sngle shot by infiltrating the American theatre, Hollywood, education & unions. Eventually America will chose communism voluntarily"
Education has had money dumped into it forever, yet somehow the system only benefits certain areas, how can that be?
TEACHERS UNION IS HOLDING THEM HOSTAGE CHILD. THERE ARE NO STANDARDS, ONLY SELFISH LAZY PEOPLE WHO WE RELY ON TO TEACH.
CRIMINALS END UP IN JAIL BASED ON THE FARCE CALLED EDUCATION - its an UTTER FAILURE, STANDARDS?
DEMS are selling out BLACK FOLKS. How much is enough? INNOCENT LIFE doesnt always die on death row,right? Im against capitol punishment, but understand it
Given your logic Child - slavery should still be legal. But we NATURALLY knew it was wrong because of our faith in God.
The civl war was the bloodiest of all American Wars ...yet now Libs teach us that it was because we were progressive or liberal - its BS.
Christians, who were the ones dying in that War, are Not progressive, nor liberal - they were right though - howd they know without some legal professor teaching them?
There's no way my logic suggest that, thats crazy. Plus white slave owners were very Christian like the white racist Christians of today in the south. They didnt come to the conclusion slavery was wrong they fought it tooth and nail and most still do in one way or another.
Child, you said that people should have the right to chose whats best for them...WELL?
What do you think that the SOUTH thinks about what youre saying?
Utilitarian Law is used by Karl Marx & like minded Liberals - it promotes that whatever brings the maximum pleasure is what we should chose...it allows fo slavery because the WHOLE world benefits (pleasure) from it and only a few are harmed (enslaved)
i know its crazy, but it exist none the less -FIGHT AGAINST IT & chose whats right
I'm pretty sure my illustration of utilitarian law is right on the mark. it comes down to the pleasure principle. And it allows for slavery and for abortion... congrats. Because the slave was so small in numbers and those who benefited were world wide, slavery would be acceptable (given the liberal way of thought). Same for abortion. Though the child experiences pain, it is short lived--the mothers pleasure comes first.
Actually, many slaveowners and religious conservatives themselves used the Bible to defend slavery, too. We didn't know it was wrong b/c of "God." That's a load of crap. We knew it was wrong because it was OBVIOUS. You don't own another human being. You don't need religion to know what's right or wrong, and religion has done a lot of horrible things in the past. Humans came up with religion and moral codes. It's a total myth to say that only God knows what's right or wrong.
Really. Please, give some examples of the TIMES--not our, but theirs. Do you know what ethnicity comprised the majority of the Northern Army? Hint: the were God Fearers...DEVOUT ROMAN CATHOLICS who believed America when she said, "all MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL" with unalienable rights to life, liberty and pursuit.
Crap, my ass. Tho I would distort this one too if I were a Democrat. justify away,sir.
Exactly my point we as individuals get to choose for ourselves whats best for us as long as it doesnt harm anyone else.
So you believe all gays are choosing to live a life of ridicule and hatred against them? I disagree. In fact I was taught it was a form of natural population control and that 10% of every life form that procreates through sex is homosexual.
Natural pop. control is something that Planned Parenthood has pushed on the youth for a long time. Dont let it sink in.
Challenge the philosphy, its ANTI LIFE, and GOD created all life so it is ANTOI GOD who knew each of us BEFORE CONCEPTION. He created us from the depths of the earth (EVOLUTION IS RIGHT...creationism is a metaphor)
Dude, I didnt mean to get so pious either so I apologize
That still doesnt determine which way to choose him. Most all religions prays God - some form of Him, not just the Christians.
Thats your belief, but its still someone else's life you're trying to control. Thats wrong. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Let consenting gays, abortionist and whoever do what they want as long as they dont try to hurt or convert anyone else.
I am not telling anyone how to vote - I am simply conveying what the Church teaches its flock...who are split up by believers and non-believers, or what I call "Catholics by Convenience." When there is such a naturally wrong or immoral "choice" then I think that the institution governing morality ought to have their say, so as to not lead the flock astray, if you believe - of course. Just pointing out that Catholics have an obligation or duty to the Church. Responsibilities.
Tony Rezko was called on by Barack Obama to be his Real Estate advisor - housing. The same is now in jail found guilty of felony.
Obama replaced him with Franklin Raines - FANNIE MAE CEO - and former Bill Clinton "budget adviser" who pled out in a civil suit settling the charge of FRAUDULENT FANNIE REVENUES.
Fannie CEOs agreed to pay more than 26 MIllion in fines for manipulating Fannie's by-laws allowing for 100' of millions in GOLDEN PARACHUTES for the Fannie EXECS..
No body's perfect, especially not the guys the politicians do business with. But my feeling is that Dems are always the lesser of the 2 evils. And really the fact that Obama is black puts an extra heavy magnifying glass on him and he still hasnt been brought down yet. That to me speaks volumes about my lesser of 2 evils beliefs.
See, I always view the Liberals are the more evil of the two, they're the "Party of Death" - according to the Catholic Church and I dont see how any Christian could vote for them in good conscience.
Liberals compare Obama to JFK (the 1st Catholic President - who they said was always under a microscope) but there is one clear difference - JFK fought against socialist, and Obama wants to be one.
And JFK also lowered taxes, not raised them - ever....
How are Dems worse than Repubs? It wasnt Hilary's gender with Dems it was her views that were in question. Palin is a disgrace even Repubs are saying this. She is not qualified thats a fact and her investigations are ridiculous . If your head is itching over something this simple, how Repub brainwashed are you?
I mean her personal views. Hilary just knew she had it in the bag, but she was wrong and by the time she figured that out she went scrambling, trying come up with a political identity that stood up to Obama's. But it was too late. Then she made her situation worse by going as negative on him as the repubs.
Im sick of people saying race card when whites created it. He didnt do that.
With her investigations? Palin is a pawn. If you have common sense you know its true.
If you believe Fr Phlegler, then maybe Hillary was overly confident & felt "privileged"-some might say his church alone should be taxed for being so partisan.
If you dont think that the race card was played, then just look up some of CLinton's comments during the campaign- he said it & more than 1 occasion.
I didnt say YOU were sexist nor racist - but its clear your sick of defending Obama.
If TRICKLE DOWN doesnt work,then why did OBAMA JUST VOTE FOR THE TRICKLE DOWN BAIL OUT? CONTRIBUTORS?
Tell Fr Phlegler & Rev Wright to separate govt & morality - they certainly have concerning abortion.
Civil War - immoral or moral?
If you had any common sense then you would know its impossible - after all the constitution is based on the bible - especially the OLD TESTAMENT. THe TEN COMMANDMENTS?
Thou shall not kill equates to CRIME & all laws are universal moral issues.
How can anyone separate moral issues, unless you want an immoral legal system?
You totally forgot the other side of Catholic doctrine: social justice. Why is it SOO bad to vote for a liberal? Liberals are FOR social justice, one of the key tenets of Catholicism. It's the reason why Catholics have long been Democrats. You're just another pick-and-choose Christian: taking conservative stances on the "right" issues but denying the liberal ones even if your church or faith says it's ok.
You do know that Liberal-Democrats WERE THE SLAVE OWNERS, right?? Social Justice being talked about by Democrats...whats next? Republicans' gave this country "social justice" in defeating the Southern Democratic Slave Owners!!
The Church is also against Killing others for Social Reasons. ABORTION? R U on the wrong side of history--again?
Libs who think they are Catholic (like Pelosi) have been called out for not being in Communion with the Church. No GOPrs have been barred from communion.
and if you want to call barack a sell out i have two words for you PHIL GRAHAM mccain's economic advisor baby look it up now those two are real sell outs
Phil Graham...is that the best you got? really? ex democrat senator, Phil graham? Who comes with no SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY?
Face it - you are in trouble on this issue..the LIBERALS sold the poor on BAD LOANS...took all of our money and then gave it to OBAMAS "SPECIAL" rich people.
OBAMA didnt give he money to the poor to keep them in their houses...though he says that we need to do just that - he then came out against it as McCain introduced 300 billion to do just that - Obama is an idiot
Thats not quite the way it happened. The people could afford the houses just fine, until Bush fucked up our economy when he flushed our money down the Iraq war. That put big business in a bind so they put the squeeze on the people through legal loopholes that allowed them to raise housing taxes and loan percentages to make up the difference they were losing from Bush. Then the price of gas sky rockets 300% too. C'mon!!! Bush basically fucked us up, by making the improbable happen..
If they could afford the houses just fine - then why the foreclosures? Why the collapse of Fannie, Freddie and Country Wide?
Maybe you think it is a waste of money to fight for freedom and against tyrants - but we've been doing it since the CIVIL WAR.
Dont forget the money re 911 & katrina & the floods etc.
I think it was the Demcorats who blocked REGUALTION of hybrid Fan & Fred in 2005 - right before Dodd got his sweetheart deal & Frank got his homosexual affair with a Fannie CEO
I explained why I believe it all went to hell in the comment you replied to.
Tyrants that pose an immediate threat to us, not this trumped up Iraq war. We ended up helping Iran when we interfered so now what?
& What about relief funds? 9/11 ground zero is still a hole in the ground - money wasted. N.O. is still fucked up looking - wasted money. & global warming is worsening our natural disaster season, while our $ value goes under.
I know Bush block US production hybrid cars for big oil.
Ask the people of Halabja how trumped up the war is...
And why the hell would we leave Iraq (as your party says we should, because its a religious war) and then go into Darfor...another Religious conflict? Thats the kettle, man.
I know about the WTC - my friend was in it. Problem isnt money, its how to memorialize the victims...no one can agree.
He blocked the production of hybrids? Got a link for it? Funny, until a yr ago hybrids were only manufactured by foreign countries -
two yrs of regulation does not fix 26 yrs of supported deregulation by john mccain he hasnt been a mavarick and has always been for less regulation not more. Obama is the best choice this country has look at mccain judgement in his VP and you are still voting for him knowing that sara palin could be president if you argee with sara palin and if you feel john judgement is sound then you have no right to speak of politics
But since the LIberals, who love Obama, blocked McCain in 2005 from regulating the Socialist Experiment (Fannie / freddie) we now find ourselves relying on the govt to bail Obamas Buddies out...in housing
Deregulation is generally good for business - who then make money and hire AMERICANS.
One more thing...if trickle down doesnt work- like Osama says - then why in the blue hell did he just vote for the bail out of wall street and approve of the trickle effect??
He says is all Bush's fault, but doesnt tell you that CONGRESS HOLDS THE PURSE STRINGS..and denies that the GOP tried to reign Freddie and Fannie in back in 2005.
Obama's Denial - not a good thing for any American.
'lip-stick' remark was not that bad so what you are saying is that she doesnt have tough skin to be the vice president?
You guys are so funny ((you just wanted and out!!! )) so you can feel better about not voteting for a (( Brilliant black man as the new president)), racism is still a big problem in America. You whether have higher food and gas pieces for another four years then vote for the best candidate thats a sickness!!!!!!!
THose who concern themselves with race too much are what we call RACIST.
Those who concern themselves too much with gender are called SEXIST....
you define yourself well without ever saying where your coming from...
obviously youre a true LIBERAL who wants everyone to be like everyone else - robots. We like INDEPENDENCE here..not GOVT MANDATED DEPENDENCE. The same party who fought to enslave others now people dependent on them ...their enslaving mechanism is what we call FEDERAL PROGRAMS.
b ankers helped out sourced America...I thought the out sourcing was result of Bill Clintons INK ON NAFTA...but I agree with you to a point. We could just let small busniess sell the bad loans, insure the ones with equity & make whole honest investors. It didnt take 700 or 850 BILLION. Toxic Sub Primes removal from the system, allow small business to re-sell them, insure investments to amke whole - no profit...would have done it just fine. Instead "the many" made "the few" richer = Socialism
As for War for Oil and Profit...kind of a weak arguement. Try calling your rep and asking him why the govt values oil more than the lives of the nations children - as they are still WITHOLDING our own oil from us.
Iriaq contributs a whole 5% oil to OPEC - if you served when I did, youd know why we went after Sadam - of course you all found HALBJA. Sadam and Chemical Ali were both found guilty of GENOCIDE - but maybe we should have ignored him during a war on terror...NOT. UN anyone?
You say Obama didn't help raise money for Hurricane Gustav? Well apparently your not subscribed to his message updates. He sent an email and text message asking for donations to help the Red Cross before the Hurricane even hit. Rather than accepting money on behalf of the Red Cross, gave a direct link to donate to them rather than using the opportunity for good press.
so he didnt donate any of his campaign funds for the victims during a disaster? I thought I said that...my mom called contributors for Gustav Victims for the Church...personal attention, not a text.
It seems rather naive to still refer to it as the war on terror. I fail to believe our actions overseas in the past 8 years have made us any safer. I fear for the day when these children affected by the wars grow up and seek retribution
Baseless attacks on how Obama will wreck the already desperate economy seems to be the only thing keeping McCain afloat. It's a sad, sad world we live in.
Well, speaking as a Gulf 1 veteran - who actually has first hand knowledge of the global threat - especially regarding nuclear target - terrorism is REAL & if you dont "feel" safer - ask yourself how many "terrorist plots" have been deterred since 911 - that is IF your being sincere & honest, which doesnt SEEM to be the priority of your party. When you say you fear children,are you talking of the ones of HALABJA or the ones WE FREED?They are allies regardless of your party's propaganda
Desperate? What has Barack PROPOSED? Instead he attacks that which IS proposed - is that the change I am to believe in?
Desperate is attacking women based on SEXISM & attaccking the elederly as it is politcally feasible - If I were Mac I might point out BARACKS COCAINE HABIT-like Hillary did- would that be desperate or would it be the truth?
THat is the sad reality - you want a socialist, drug dealer for president - and that IS the SADDEST of all - tho I am sure Russia will like us more :o/
If he has a cocain habit and was still able to graduate Jurist Doctorate Magna Cum Laude of Harvard Law with a double major then what does that say about McCain, the gambling, Keating 5 Mafia, 5 plane crashing, demented, 170 lobbyist liar when he can't even defend himself in a debate with Obama in an area that's supposed to be McCain's specialty?
IF? No, OBAMA IS A COKE HEAD & wrote about it in his book. Hillary said he was a DEALER.
Keating, who John helped convict, was part of a Real Estate S&L Deal - almost like WHITEWATER...not as bad as this bail out! Mac was 1 of 5...the other 4 were LIBERALS, not MAFIA.
What was Mac doing as a pilot & why wasnt he at law school in England with Bubba??
The BAIL OUT Reads like Obamas BENEFACTORS LIST, of course he said he wouldnt take special interst money - until he took it.
Like what - Washingtonm Post has confirmed his connection with Fannie Mae CEO...washingtonpost.voices there FACT check. Fannie was created under LBJ's "Great Society" there, fact - & it was USED by Clinton to garner SUB PRIME LOANS - the root cause of this collapse...but you go ahead & stay in that DENIAL over it. I would 2 if I were a LIB - The country is going to be a soicalist one with OBAMA - McCain is a hero who faught corrution. Obama is one of the corrupt - good luck arguing it too.
No, my MISINFORMED friend -BILL CLINTON fostered & sponsored the practice of SUB PRIME LOANS to shark style salesmen on WALL ST - he & LBJ alone gave us the biggest distribution of wealth of ANY admin & took from the Gov't & gave to the "Wall St FEW" - not the "collective many" It supports the socialist ideal in the far Left-Dem Party. Pop ur bubble- Obama is the biggest of all takers from the industries affected! Change? Or more mud slinging same? Lehman, Real Estate & Banking R His FUNDERS
the bail out bill looks like a BENEFACTORS LIST for Obama's Campaign Donors - and you want to debate what Democrat gave us Sub Primes...Barack made his name in taking advantage of the poor or representing them, in housing!
Who are his CONTRIBUTORS? CHASE, JP MORGAN, MERYL LYNCH, CITIBANK, LEHAMN BROS, Fannie Freddie...all waist deep in the collapse -
Yes, all the benefactors from the bail out are FUNDING OBAMA.
How many give money to McCain??
Lobbying doesnt hurt WITHOUT the lobbyist's SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY which leaves a politician BEHOLDEN...McCain takes NONE.
Frank was actually having homosexual relations with a top exec from Fannie - pardon the pun. Frank is a BIG supporter of Obama too - but you wont hear it from Osama.
Funny how now Palestine is even contributing to Baracks campaign..whose next, the Iatola?
Your side has a 100% negative advert and net strategy. Worse, your stuff is silly. Now look at what McCain said about G Gordon Liddy in January, and at who is running his campaign.
Barack Obama cut his teeth on the housing issue - in a word he is a SELL OUT. he didnt help the poor, he hurt the poor - and his rich CONTRIBUTORS are the benefactors in the end.
Hows that for a reply - too honest?
The GOP tried to regulate Fannie and Freddie in 2005...of course you know that now, right? its been thoroughly covered
Many Senior citizens, disabled and injured, uneducated, and poor people can not e-mail, type, or use the internet ! They are not in Obamas elitist class. They are sub-standard Americans in the eyes of Mr. Obamas surrogates. Mr. Obama only represents the DNC, Reid/Pelosi/Soras, and far-far left activist groups. Certainly not middle class, middle income Americans. This man as Prez. would be disasterous. Note that many of the pro-Obama remarks across the net are coming from foreigners.
So now Obama is attacking handicapped people for not being able to perform normal task. When will he stop attacking Americans, and stop trying to impress them with rhetoric. Ms. Pelosi is waiting for him to get elected to put forth the Democratic congresses spending bills (due the end of this month). They will hold them 'till Jan. If elected, Obama will sign the largest spending increase in U.S. history !! Obama has been chosen to be a rubber-stamp for Reid/Pelosi/Soras.
well the congress was majority republican up until the democrats took over so give or take the repbulicans have been largely responisble for acting on bush's retarde policys. also with so many reps resgning with scandal after flippin scandal no one with sound judgement wants another four yrs of the same.
How long did the Democrats have control before 96? Try 40 yrs, and what have then done since 2004? Nothing - yet blame Bush for the Congress who holds the purse strings? Brilliant, but old & tired tactics made by the desperate. Not offending you, just the tactic set forth for you. "Retard Policies" - is that another slam on Pain? That is just so cruel, mean & cold - even for a leftist to say...what reps? obviously that isnt on anyones mind but yours - for some reason
only a fool would have to belive that china isnt rising in power its economy is growing larger than japan's. and the only reason the diet has not been able to change article 9 of the japanese constitution preventing them from acting in is because many people in the diet are opposed to changing it.
Well eight years of Conservative bullshit really didn't take us anywhere!! It actually fucked up our country!! I'd take Obama over McCain ANY DAY!! Obama isn't just a good speaker....he has displayed confidence that he will fix our country up!!
McCain - "I will catch Bin Laden IF elected!" Sir, that's considered BLACKMAIL!!
So you're going to swiftboat Obama, that's what ur name implies! Using attack methods and not solid facts!
You DO know how to take 'hyperbole' to new lengths, "McCain withholding national security "secrets," is just assinine - even for a leftist. SWIFTY happens to be my middle name, SWIFT & usder-ids are for those who have to hide. Bush also carried the country & its market through 9.11, the stock market crash, 2 floods, 4 hurricanse, wild fires, a WAR with more than 2 fronts, its reconstruction & natural disaster, yet you blame who? you're ever ready to place blame on all but CONGRESS, why's that??
Yo Dude, wake up !! The democratic party has been filibustering policies put forth by the Bush admin. for the past 8 yrs. (They even blocked a bill that required parental notification to take a 12 yr. old across a state line for an abortion)(got any daughters?). Even now all the work congress was required to do this past year is being withheld by Congress in hopes that Obama will be elected. Obama will be a rubber-stamp for Reid/Pelosi/Soras. Confidence? Does that go on a resume ?
Obama is elusively inspiring, but towards midirection. "We" believe that 'freedom' is a "God given right" to every single human. The Frendch agreed "for a while" & revolted. Liberty is an intrinsic, inherent quality granted - not man made - but man can certainly take effort to corrupt & distort it ...as we all now see. Massive firings & rehires into a new branch of military called "volunteerism" is to make all more "socialistic" - which is contrary to what the founders called - freedom
they have a different detail then the military - if youd like to know about it and how indepth it is, call the DoD. I have covered BLACKWATER - trust me - the military is thankful for them ,as are we.
What, Hillary was almost as bad a a repub with her campaign against him. 'Lip stick' was not a gaffe it was a pathetically poor twist of Obamas words. And Afghanistan is were we should have gone anyway after 9/11, because they did it not Iraq.
China...oh, please. They cant even afford to feed their own people, it's a third world country trying to appear "modern." I'll use an Asian powerhouse too- JAPAN, who has yet to change the Constitution offered them post WW2! They're a republic now & vote + work as they see fit & not as their gov't demands. Again, they are an economic powerhouse. China's MONARCHY is well fed though, just not the 1 BILLION under them. But hey, maybe we could limit baby production too - is that the plan?
Yeah- just like Japan in the 80s, right? Tell you what - when China wants to collect, then we will also start collecting as well. Or how about this, we stop our country from giving billions away every yr to foreign countries &B then pay our debt off and leave a surplus? Howd that be? Should I name you some of the debts owed us? or not? Can these SOCIALIST also "BUY OUT" our health care industry too? Cuz we can not afford it - 'according' to a very vocal, but 'a very minority few'
But this isnt Japan in the 80's its China today. A lot has changed. More work being outsourced and less unbiased media information. But either way as a country we are not as strong as we were back than anyhow.
It all has changed, but nothing really has changed at all. Markets have always been open & free. Clinton, the Rhode Scholar, signed NAFTA to furhter the market & its production. If UNIONS didnt insure it was so expensive to employ, then companies wouldn't outsource at all. But Barack will "build you a job" as if this is the Great Depression. well, its not. This market is stronger than Clintons & we are safer despite terrorist. OBAMA seeks to weaken DEFENSE - the one weaken by Clinton also..NO
No things change a lot. People lose while others win. And under the Repubs the wealthy win all the way around. That just doesnt happen when Dems run things. And we're not stronger with a depleted military, a president that wont listen to the people or his military advisors, and whose lies to his own people and actions around the world have made us look worse around the world, not better. People around the world are rooting for Obama, because they know what happens to us will effect them too.
"Nothing changes a lot?" We are Americans who have the God given right to pursue what we wish, but it doest mean anyone gets to rob anyone else. Its not the job of government to get payback for you - its up to you to do what makes you happy, in a field you like and anywhere you like as well. Rich republicans "get to keep thier money?" Thats the argument? Whose money do those enslaved by a socialist example get to keep without any return? Buying votes, keeping people down is not sound judgment
The party which fought to enslave others, now forces people subservient to gov't via socialist "programs."
The new tool is complacency & 'welfare' is the enslaving mechanism
The North & Lincoln were not "liberal" nor did things for faddish reason- The North did things because of faith (!!) that all men are indeed created equal & free - even us indentured slaves, the irish.
Search to find truth about our beginning & whether or not a socialist government is consistent w. that faith
See below - Obama says he "is a Christian," but his supporters call Christians "crazy". Obama committed to only accepting Public Campaign Finance - but then took Special Interest's money. Whose interests are being served? Special Interest are being "served." He says he is Christian & then votes to murder newly born babies, BUT ONLY WHEN THE BABY HAS... "down syndrome" - like Sarahs baby, Trig. Nice, Obama, real Nice.
Another governor by convenience IS NOT CHANGE to believe in.
That's not what I get from his plan. It's the woman's choice no matter who agrees or not. & its not all christians just the uber-christians. The ones that dont believe in science. And who's special interest money did he take?
My reply is exactly Baracks economic plan - regardless of what "you get from it." It is "GODS choice" as to who gets pregnant or not - not our willful prides'. When youre talking "uber-christians" (how very nazi of you) youre talking about CATHOLICS & you offend a vast majority of the nation, who are very well educated - Science is science and no more than that.. See the Vatican's PadreFunes com - "big bang is possible but intellgient life from other than intelligent desin is"...well, HUBRIST!
Yes its Gods choice but we a humans do have some control and say, as it should be. & its not Nazi of me when these particular christians believe such hypocrisy - rights for all, but gays, pro life for humans but hunting animals, & picking and choosing when to trust science. Its not Catholics, Im Catholic. Its Christians, bible-belt christians that looked at Bush as the messiah, and believed that Jesus was white.
What in the blue hell are you talking about? Huber Christian is to say that they are not worthy of basic consideration; hence NAZI-like - ur only replacing the Jewish. I have never seen a "Christian" picking & choosing when to use Science - name some examples. Do these same Christians view Obama as the chosen one - the messiah - and why or why not? It is not a basic right for anyone to take a life - I am square in the middle of this bible-belt & theyre no different from YOU or I, Catholic.
No I mean their opinion shouldnt be made into a law simple because they dont like something. The Repubs appeal to them because they try to keep the status quo on things that bind or oppress others. Gays cant have the same rights as straights, wanting to the bible to be taught as a means of science = denouncing evolution, but they go to the Dr.'s for check-ups, its all science, trying to get books banned = censoring, wanting to teach abstinence only. Repub is sheer hypocrisy plan and simple.
The only 'thing' that binds people or holds them down is enslaving them with complacency. The same party who fought to enslave others now uses socialism to surpress all who apply. This is not an American Process either - it was develope dout of neccessity over 70 yrs ago. This is not the dpression and it is STILL not a socialism - yet. Read Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx - it was madatory for all military to be trained on - "they will take over from within, without firing a single bullet"
Newsflash: Obama plays the race card like its an ace in the hole. Ask Hillary & Bill Clinton how badly he "fear mongers" Race
I see youre one that fell asleep after 9.11 - that 'security blanket' is made of Military Intel. Their problem is people dont believe what happened so they search out new causes - 'certainly no one wants each of us dead, right?' Wrong. Terrorist dont care if you like & support them - they care if you pray like them. If not, youre an infidel best dealt w/ thru Jihad
Children - why do you look to separate us on issues of marality, which Government should not delve into? Gays, abortion socialism ...these are all moral issues and 70% of this country is Christian. You offend many - well, not you but some candidates do -as does Chris Matthews. Do you know what hypcrisy is? How about calling McCain out for using 'lobbyist' in his campaign...while Obama has the largest amount ever in Special Interest Grp Funding - one helped pay for his house - tho now in jail.
Again, show me where this is true about Obama. And it's not which government should its which government does - Repub government -the one thats supposed to be so hands-off.
The religuous smear that youve laid down in here should indicate the DEM' religuous bias towards Christians is clear.
Dems, media and candidates alike divide America w/ these non-sensical squirmishes about abortion, gays, race, women etc etc - we are an "uber-majority" (as u say) & we are of Christian faith...these issues are losers for you - well, not you but the liberal democrats - which, hello, the vast maj. is not.
the liberal democrat thinks itself far superior regarding intellect to the avg American, just see Matt Damons take on Palin to read about it.
We "commoners" are not liberal democrats - we are the middle of the board - some misguided must be reminded of faith, while others have to be reminded of responsibility.
That is who "we are." Liberal Democrats are windbags who shout the loudest of all - for some reason - they need your attention & approval, for some reason - and they make it look sooo....good. at its core these type people are transparent - when informed, their direction is to change our economy from a 'free market' to a 'gvoernor run or socialist' one ...and I am sorry, but this is the wrong country for you - if you support that type mentality.
Politicians are supposed to look for our approval thats why te approval rating is such a big deal. And look what happens in a free market, the people get dicked. 1st companies cheated their workers, then came unions. Now the free market means companies can set up shop outside the US - where again, no unions. Its the Dems that try to save the people from the greedy Repubs & their company friends, & from those dumb enough to vote outside their financial interest.
Approval ratings should not drive policy - the old "stick the finger in the wind" to gage perception trick offers no leadership qualities.
Leaders have to make tough decision which are not always "popular," nor supported by Sat Night Live.
No one likes war, for example, but sometimes a book can not offer solution...especially when the enemy wants to cut ur head off for not praying like they do...
you admitt to your being a socialist, I admire your passion. The premise that people are free to 'trade' at will, w/o gov't interference is paramount to being American- why would liberated people opt for a system which promotes more govt intrusion/control we just revolted against the same & de-armed 'feudalism?" aka Eng. / Fra.
I say tax foreign biz who do biz here & dont tax amer. biz during a world economic war. Import taxes can relieve poeple's tax burden & protect those who employ us
What does those who think theyre elite (liberals) have to do with the war?
Iraq was a terrorist nation with WMDs, they ignored UN Sanctions for 10 years and aft 9.11 we were vulknerable to terorrist. The UN could not enforce its sanctions and EVERYONE voted for war - all based on the SAME intellegence from teh CIA / FBI that the Pres had...war is hell, not any one mans fault.
There were "no WMD" and Iraq had "No ties to terrorist organizations". It is all made up bs, Bin Laden and anyone else being displayed as a terrorist leader are actors on the bankroll of this corrupt government. Paid to keep the people of this country in fear. The lemmings of this country walked right off the cliff. Not everyone are so blind, WAKE UP!!!
tell that to the 50,000 bodies found dead in the mass graves of Halabja - dead result of Sadam & Chemical Ali's attack on their own. This is a fact people, he gassed his own people using CHEMICAL WARFARE aka-WMDs.
No, it is a part of InterNational Economic War evidenced by the attacks on WORLD TRADE in 2001 & the ones profitting the most are the Saudis - who sponsored each 9.11 terrorist & is home to one....Osama Bin Laden - - the rest of ur comment is way to "conspiracy theory" ...SAUDI
My bias is towards the uber-christians one-sided beliefs, which are unconstitutional. And I doubt that the vast majority of people are Repub. That hasnt been the case for a long time. How else could a black man named Barake Obama, even have made it this far?
So you discriminate those more religuous than yourself. The constitution has nothing to do with religion - other than protecting peoples right to worship as they see fit..not outlaw or create civil bias towards them...
Thats why we Cathoilcs are here! We left Europe (ENGLAND) because of our being BEHEADED based on our FAITH. Engalnd's 'leadership' decided that the Catholics were wrong about DIVORCE - England was selfish - so they 'made up' their own religion n kicked our asses- bad like.
More religious? That makes sense to you? Im not an atheist, so they are not more religious, just more fanatic in their devotion. Thats not the same thing.
Yes and now here the religious right vote presidents into office that share their views so they can make laws that hinder others. Not quite a beheading but still, unconstitutional.
The vast - and I mean - uber-majority...are Christian. 70% of America is CHRISTIAN. Go to gallup or check out our census...its true. We were founded as Christians who were being tormented by our 'motherland" and chased out of country.
We are a christian nation...and not too many are pro death
That maybe so but that doesnt mean uber-christian, thats a minority.
Yes instead of standing up and fighting for their rights, like blacks did, they came here, backstabbed the natives and stole their land. Then created white privilege. But hey its a vicious cycle.
So the christians may not be pro-death, but they sure are pro-killing.
You're saying that our being put to death for religusous belief was sound policy. U just said that Christians were being "killed" IN EU, but escaped, came here & ruined the country - as if Indians never did a thing worng at all, which is historically inaccurate.
Christians should have just all DIED in EUROPE instead of coming here b/c of the poor indidan who attacked our forts so badly we almost perished altogether. Christianity almost didnt survive & it sounds as though you feel guilty :/
No Im saying what they should have done was stand up for themselves over the oppression, like everyone in history had to do to survive. But no, what they did was run like bitches, risking death to cross the sea, to a place where they had the weaponry advantage. It was the 'christians' that killed the 'savage Indians' & the 'savage africans' & the 'savage japanese' & so on. & the process created white privilege. The ever-existing intangible cushion I bet no white person could live without.
In our crininal justice system, the test for insanity is the inability to tell right from wrong. Bo you know the difference between right and wrong? If not, then you are legally insane.
If you do know the difference between right and wrong, prove it by defining it.
badflamenco 1 year ago
@badflamenco Wow, dude. Get some sleep.
swiftyread 1 year ago
john Mccain sucks almost as bad as BUshObama
Mcain is great to pull votes off of a Voting Block - all the people brainwashed int thinking Russia or Terror is a problem , OBAMA is more hawkish than Mccain
war is war It Bankruots us
We won the last wars because we styed out of them(traded with both sides) until the waring parties where bankrupt- The Chinese officials can at least READ . Lets get some leaders that can READ. Terrorist is an invention to get people to agree to war.
captkirkconnell 1 year ago
@captkirkconnell Ever serve? I dont know where you bought the idea that we like war. We get attacked and now we're war hawks? Did the commie left sell you that when you were high?
What makes you think war has to do with trade? And what makes you think I am for free trade? I'm not.
Sure. 9/11 was only a movie. I know because I am from NY and now live 5 minutes from the Pentagon. The WTC is really still there. Those aircraft never really crashed. And truthers are nuts. Sorry dude.
swiftyread 1 year ago
@captkirkconnell Like this war, we were attacked in wars in the past. And Great. Tell the Chinese officials that SLAVERY is alive and well in their country.
swiftyread 1 year ago
If you mean FDR (Fannie), LBJ (Freddie)and Clinton (Sub Primes)along with the the aging super-queer, Barney Frank (downpayments) RUINED this economy with their socialist experiments then - yes, I would agree with you - those old white guys need to go.
Of course now that women are the majority in the US, I am just siked to finally be added to the affirmative action list ;o)~ Now I get to be against the man -the irony.
swiftyread 3 years ago
I had friends that wouldnt vote for a woman as the VP - aint it a shocker how pathetic society is, especially the media?
swiftyread 3 years ago
I am a pretty strong independant woman and I would never vote for a woman president.They all get their emotional,irrational time menstruation once a month and the ones that don't get the menopause..Men are more stable all the way around..
napilolo 3 years ago
I think that 18 million voters would disagree - not that it matters too much now
so do you think hillary shouldnt be sec of state because women are too emotional?
CondiLeeza did a pretty good job IMO
swiftyread 3 years ago
Maybe so - but Hitler als believed in totality - ultimate control & its anti-capitalism.
Libs are so misled by the socialist they have no idea what INIDIVIDUAL FREEDOM IS, nor the beauty that is AMERICAN FREEDOM.
I was taught about Marx when I served (89-95), hopefully people look it up & challenge it against out PHILOSOPHIES - the founders.
we didnt invent slavery ... WE EnDED IT
swiftyread 3 years ago
One would need the Rosetta Stone to decipher half of the BS said, not only on this site - but on the campaign trail too. It's a revisionist's tool. They've changed "enlightenment" & redefined it according to their misguided use (or abuse).
America has been under an internal attack of "change" since the early 1900s, circa WW1. The Communist Manifesto was taught us in the military when I served - I wonder if it is still offered as training at all, other than by Harvard / Yale ELITE. good post LT
swiftyread 3 years ago
How did anyone "change" the Enlightenment? I don't follow. It was a band of classical liberal writers and activists, several of whom were atheists or deists, who hated monarchy and wanted freedom. What about that was distorted? Are you gonna say the Enlightenment authors were "devout", so that somehow means the Bible is inherently pro-freedom, despite all the evidence against it in so many verses, not the least of which is his smiting of Sodom and Gomorrah?
whoo689 3 years ago
Enlightenment was not the result of Liberal Writers and thinkers who wanted freedom. Libs didnt even exist in the 1700s. Not until the 1910s a la Bolshevik Rev.
Enlightenment was result of CHRIST. And the Founders of this Nation Actualized it.
At least you didnt say the 60s...
You tell me--was Independence result of those more devout or more atheist??
swiftyread 2 years ago
Swiftyread- They are called classical liberals. Natural rights came from this (life, liberty, property). read some locke...
causeimthesquid 2 years ago
I'm familiar with Locke, Thoreau and Kante--who tried to disprove the human spirit.
I'm also familiar w Madison, Adams, Franklin, Washington & Lincoln--each w strong faith & the common sense not to prefer one religion over another.
Given how Catholics came to arrive in the US, I'd say they got that part right. Freedom of Religion does not mean there is no God, but that people can practice as they see fit w/o govt endorsement.
Now the govt endorses Naturalism--another type ideology.
swiftyread 2 years ago
@swiftyread Causeimthsequid is referring to the "Naturalist" not classic liberals. Although some of their writings,(Thoreau etc) was the basis for Marx's Communist Manifesto & socialism. It failed in Russia & allowed for 80M Russians to be murdered by Stalin.
Why? POPULATION CONTOL=MORE FOR EVERYONE. Think long and hard about that in regards of some of the policies today...
Death counseling? Death to babies who survive abortion? Assissted suicide?
swiftyread 2 years ago
its all good in the neighborhood - hows everything goin LT? Seems Iraq is comin along, my brother is over there...
swiftyread 3 years ago
watch the language too LT - you know better than that...my kid comes on here, so I am asking nicely, thanks brother
swiftyread 3 years ago
LT - you're a pretty cynical dude.
McCain is a WAR HERO & has our best interest at heart. He turned down release-enough said!
His wife got wealth from her dad,is that a crime? Her father was a WW2 HERO who came home BROKE-you know?
That lady who can see Russia just benefited her people by taking on the oil companies.
What has Obama or Paul done?
Masons? Are you a conspiracy groupie? Tell me it aint so! I went to Ntl Hdqtrs,not far from my house & we have them to thank for our LIBERTY.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Yeah right. Palin is so much a pawn that she had ethics charges brought up on fellow "big oil" Republicans & then elected to give the people of Alaska money back from the windfall profits by the oil companies...she didnt keep it
Democrats that passed the trickle down bail out bill elected to keep any profits & put it towards the debt - instead of giving it back to us in the form of tax cuts or credits.
They want to grow the govt not benefit tax payers.
Change or the same?
swiftyread 3 years ago
Isn't paying down debt a good idea?
rbhumes 3 years ago
Whose debt? I pay mine, why should I pay yours too ... or WALL STEETS for that matter...our govt made this problem...LIBERAL DEMOCRATS MADE THE PROBLEM in 1937 - FDR and then 1970 - LBJ, then by Clinton and his sub prime loans -
the poisonous pill is called "sub prime loans" - let Fannie and Freddie Fall 0they didnt work
We have to insure the sub primes & resell them ...thats the only way to fix it - not make rich people, richer!
swiftyread 3 years ago
Yep Im going for a pro-choice Dem.
Thats a lie, Palin's a fraud.
I am far from sexist. McCain voted against equal pay for women. & She also has more investigations against her that the repubs are trying to keep at bay than I am comfortable with.
No they are the only real leg the Repubs have to stand on with common red neck bigots.
No. Trickle up theory over trickle down.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Did the people of Alaska get a check from the State as result of the OIL WINDSHARE PROFITS OR NOT?
DOnt call me a liar Child, I actually make a conscious decision to note LIE...so what is it that you think I am lying about?
Take up your Catholic Pro Abortion Vote wiuth your local priest, ask him what he thinks if youre so confident that its "just okay"
or dont. I could care a less - but I am not going to defend my belief in whats morally "right"
You display in your post who is the bigot.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Im not saying you're a lier, Im saying she is lying and the repubs or lying about her skills and knowledge.
Thats not the issue but I believe my priest would say what Im saying. That though abortion may not be the best answer it is up to the individual and their reasons for wanting to do it.
Its ok to have a belief but why should your belief force someone else to live by your rules. Getting an abortion only hurts 2 people the unborn and the mother. Why should it be anyone else's concern?
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
What is there to lie about? She took on the oil companies & gave windfalls to her people, commissioned the CNG pipeline, took on her own parties - whats to lie about? I am proud of her as you should be too - we need leaders like that, who arent out for #1.
Ask your priest innocently & he will tell you without reprimand. Its unnatural.
You forgot the dad who took part in the kids life - murder is against the law (which is based on the bible) see the Magna Charta/read Tom Payne's Common Sense
swiftyread 3 years ago
What is there to lie about? Her selling the plane on eBay, her wanting to separate Alaska from the US. Her believing in witch hunting. Her lying about the Downs baby being hers and not Bristol's. Her trying to avoid the investigations against her. Her trying to say Obama is a terrorist and that anyone choosing to vote for him is unpatriotic. Her exaggerating her readiness for VP when Alaska has less than 10,000 people, nearly all of them are white (no diversity like the rest of the US).
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Besides - abortion is a mortal sin my man...no priest on earth will tell you any different. It is a sin that has no absolution..no penance. If you vote for a pro choice candidate youre committing a grave sin - it is what it is.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Speaking as a peson that went to catholic school from 3rd grade to grad I was not taught that abortion was a moral sin. I was taught what I have been telling you, that it's between the person and God.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Well - you didnt go to a Catholic School then.
Catechism Abortion:
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.71 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.72"
swiftyread 3 years ago
My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.73
2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion is gravely contrary to the moral law: You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.74
swiftyread 3 years ago
God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.75
2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Stop trying to tell me about my life just because my answers fly in the face what you thought. Im not denying what you're saying is incorrect, but what Im saying is that doesnt and shouldnt make it a law that forces people to do what others believe is right when it doesnt effect them.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
My man, I'm not telling you anything about your life - you are misrepresenting the facts about Catholicism & I am getting it straight for u.
Vote how you want, I am telling you that your "faith" says that you MAY not vote pro-choice. ITS A GRAVE SIN.
If you dont like it, then leave the church or REFORM YOURSELF. The Church knows what she's doing.
We have always forced people do the right thing, slavery for example, wasnt because we were liberal but b/c we believe in GOD & we were the army.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Im not misrepresenting anything, Im just telling you what I learned.
I vote for people's God given rights to do whatever they want to do as long as it doesnt harm anyone else outside the issue.
Tattoos are a sin too by the bible's code, as is pre-maritial sex and homo-sexuality. But people practice these things as well. Smoking cigerettes wearing cotton blends and inter religious marriage.
Where will it end? When we decide for ourselves and not let an old book written by men tell us everything.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
I posted the Church's doctrine -its right there w/ a link.
If a layperson told you that abortion is b/t God & women, then you ought to report it.
If it was a priest, I suggest you report it to the Bishop of your diocese immediately.
Misleading the flock is not okay.
Its about the promotion of snuffing out the light- INNOCENT unborn lives. We are Gods creation & man is not allowed to take it w/ abortion. Pic an abortion, what the cry sounds like-is it wrong to U? Then why vote for it?
swiftyread 3 years ago
Oh please, "snuffing out the light-innocent unborn lives" Im supposed to be the bleeding-heart liberal here not you. Which is my point. You care more about the poor- innocent unborn more than the poor, under-educated, single parent, living in below the poverty-line living minorities that wind up in prison when this white controlled society fails them and they turn into the people on death row. Why abortion so wrong but capital punishment isnt? Its still a God created life that man destroys.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Child - I love just like anyone else does. Matter of fact I am ALL HEART & sacrificed for you already.
"INNOCENT" - try to grasp this, people have the right to manifest what they want for themselves & we give to charity to help the needy - -not to a govt to use my money to kill the INNOCENT.
"We will over take Amrica from with in without everfiring a sngle shot by infiltrating the American theatre, Hollywood, education & unions. Eventually America will chose communism voluntarily"
swiftyread 3 years ago
Education has had money dumped into it forever, yet somehow the system only benefits certain areas, how can that be?
TEACHERS UNION IS HOLDING THEM HOSTAGE CHILD. THERE ARE NO STANDARDS, ONLY SELFISH LAZY PEOPLE WHO WE RELY ON TO TEACH.
CRIMINALS END UP IN JAIL BASED ON THE FARCE CALLED EDUCATION - its an UTTER FAILURE, STANDARDS?
DEMS are selling out BLACK FOLKS. How much is enough? INNOCENT LIFE doesnt always die on death row,right? Im against capitol punishment, but understand it
swiftyread 3 years ago
Given your logic Child - slavery should still be legal. But we NATURALLY knew it was wrong because of our faith in God.
The civl war was the bloodiest of all American Wars ...yet now Libs teach us that it was because we were progressive or liberal - its BS.
Christians, who were the ones dying in that War, are Not progressive, nor liberal - they were right though - howd they know without some legal professor teaching them?
swiftyread 3 years ago
There's no way my logic suggest that, thats crazy. Plus white slave owners were very Christian like the white racist Christians of today in the south. They didnt come to the conclusion slavery was wrong they fought it tooth and nail and most still do in one way or another.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Child, you said that people should have the right to chose whats best for them...WELL?
What do you think that the SOUTH thinks about what youre saying?
Utilitarian Law is used by Karl Marx & like minded Liberals - it promotes that whatever brings the maximum pleasure is what we should chose...it allows fo slavery because the WHOLE world benefits (pleasure) from it and only a few are harmed (enslaved)
i know its crazy, but it exist none the less -FIGHT AGAINST IT & chose whats right
swiftyread 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure John Stuart Mill would be appalled at your distorton of utilitarian theory.
whoo689 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure my illustration of utilitarian law is right on the mark. it comes down to the pleasure principle. And it allows for slavery and for abortion... congrats. Because the slave was so small in numbers and those who benefited were world wide, slavery would be acceptable (given the liberal way of thought). Same for abortion. Though the child experiences pain, it is short lived--the mothers pleasure comes first.
swiftyread 2 years ago
Actually, many slaveowners and religious conservatives themselves used the Bible to defend slavery, too. We didn't know it was wrong b/c of "God." That's a load of crap. We knew it was wrong because it was OBVIOUS. You don't own another human being. You don't need religion to know what's right or wrong, and religion has done a lot of horrible things in the past. Humans came up with religion and moral codes. It's a total myth to say that only God knows what's right or wrong.
whoo689 3 years ago
Really. Please, give some examples of the TIMES--not our, but theirs. Do you know what ethnicity comprised the majority of the Northern Army? Hint: the were God Fearers...DEVOUT ROMAN CATHOLICS who believed America when she said, "all MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL" with unalienable rights to life, liberty and pursuit.
Crap, my ass. Tho I would distort this one too if I were a Democrat. justify away,sir.
swiftyread 2 years ago
There is no code to the bible child, there just "is."
A lot of "choice" is wrong, but get this,we are not free to do whatever we want - we are free to chose the good though.
imagine that, we get to chose GOD, as opposed to being ordered to follow. Reflect on it, "we get to "chose" GOD."
Smoking? Thou Shalt Not Kill
Tats = Love thy neighbor as "yourself"
Homos=Envy, thou shalt not covet. it isnt natural. People aren't born gay-as some are sold.
Confession & Forgiveness cleanses/renews us
swiftyread 3 years ago
Exactly my point we as individuals get to choose for ourselves whats best for us as long as it doesnt harm anyone else.
So you believe all gays are choosing to live a life of ridicule and hatred against them? I disagree. In fact I was taught it was a form of natural population control and that 10% of every life form that procreates through sex is homosexual.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
No Child, we GET to chose GOD - not just whatever flavor we fancy. God wants us to CHOSE HIM.
I believe gays are simply perverted by boredom & need to live a chaste life until they are reborn through re-confirmation.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Natural pop. control is something that Planned Parenthood has pushed on the youth for a long time. Dont let it sink in.
Challenge the philosphy, its ANTI LIFE, and GOD created all life so it is ANTOI GOD who knew each of us BEFORE CONCEPTION. He created us from the depths of the earth (EVOLUTION IS RIGHT...creationism is a metaphor)
Dude, I didnt mean to get so pious either so I apologize
swiftyread 3 years ago
That still doesnt determine which way to choose him. Most all religions prays God - some form of Him, not just the Christians.
Thats your belief, but its still someone else's life you're trying to control. Thats wrong. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Let consenting gays, abortionist and whoever do what they want as long as they dont try to hurt or convert anyone else.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
I am not telling anyone how to vote - I am simply conveying what the Church teaches its flock...who are split up by believers and non-believers, or what I call "Catholics by Convenience." When there is such a naturally wrong or immoral "choice" then I think that the institution governing morality ought to have their say, so as to not lead the flock astray, if you believe - of course. Just pointing out that Catholics have an obligation or duty to the Church. Responsibilities.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Tony Rezko was called on by Barack Obama to be his Real Estate advisor - housing. The same is now in jail found guilty of felony.
Obama replaced him with Franklin Raines - FANNIE MAE CEO - and former Bill Clinton "budget adviser" who pled out in a civil suit settling the charge of FRAUDULENT FANNIE REVENUES.
Fannie CEOs agreed to pay more than 26 MIllion in fines for manipulating Fannie's by-laws allowing for 100' of millions in GOLDEN PARACHUTES for the Fannie EXECS..
why defend them again?
swiftyread 3 years ago
No body's perfect, especially not the guys the politicians do business with. But my feeling is that Dems are always the lesser of the 2 evils. And really the fact that Obama is black puts an extra heavy magnifying glass on him and he still hasnt been brought down yet. That to me speaks volumes about my lesser of 2 evils beliefs.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
See, I always view the Liberals are the more evil of the two, they're the "Party of Death" - according to the Catholic Church and I dont see how any Christian could vote for them in good conscience.
Liberals compare Obama to JFK (the 1st Catholic President - who they said was always under a microscope) but there is one clear difference - JFK fought against socialist, and Obama wants to be one.
And JFK also lowered taxes, not raised them - ever....
swiftyread 3 years ago
Using the point of view that Obama' race must create an overly skeptic public would also demand the same of a woman.
Sexism was used against Hillary - which is a shocker & even more so against Sarah, which is about typical.
The libs are hypocrites who cry for equality and then treat others in such a demeaning manner
I give you Olberman, who calls Palin a disgrace?!?
Maybe if she elected to slaughter her DOWN SYNDROME CHILD then he might feel she is morally just. Whadda head scratcher!
swiftyread 3 years ago
How are Dems worse than Repubs? It wasnt Hilary's gender with Dems it was her views that were in question. Palin is a disgrace even Repubs are saying this. She is not qualified thats a fact and her investigations are ridiculous . If your head is itching over something this simple, how Repub brainwashed are you?
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Hillary's Politics are the exact same as Obama's. she has been trying to get Socialized Health Care by CONgress since Bill was President.
Obama has the exact same platform, but played the race card on her. If youre a Democrat, then you know its true.
the Libs find Palin a disgrace because she has moral conviction & will not "PLAY THE GAME" & LIE. Since when is that being a disgrace?
The Catholic Church says that she has renewed morality in politcs. They back her/McCain-not the Post.
swiftyread 3 years ago
I mean her personal views. Hilary just knew she had it in the bag, but she was wrong and by the time she figured that out she went scrambling, trying come up with a political identity that stood up to Obama's. But it was too late. Then she made her situation worse by going as negative on him as the repubs.
Im sick of people saying race card when whites created it. He didnt do that.
With her investigations? Palin is a pawn. If you have common sense you know its true.
Separate church & state.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
If you believe Fr Phlegler, then maybe Hillary was overly confident & felt "privileged"-some might say his church alone should be taxed for being so partisan.
If you dont think that the race card was played, then just look up some of CLinton's comments during the campaign- he said it & more than 1 occasion.
I didnt say YOU were sexist nor racist - but its clear your sick of defending Obama.
If TRICKLE DOWN doesnt work,then why did OBAMA JUST VOTE FOR THE TRICKLE DOWN BAIL OUT? CONTRIBUTORS?
swiftyread 3 years ago
Separate church and state? Really Child?
Tell Fr Phlegler & Rev Wright to separate govt & morality - they certainly have concerning abortion.
Civil War - immoral or moral?
If you had any common sense then you would know its impossible - after all the constitution is based on the bible - especially the OLD TESTAMENT. THe TEN COMMANDMENTS?
Thou shall not kill equates to CRIME & all laws are universal moral issues.
How can anyone separate moral issues, unless you want an immoral legal system?
swiftyread 3 years ago
So - Child - you're going against the Church by voting for a pro-abortion politician.
And Obama has less Exec Experience than does Palin - who fought for tyhe people of Alaska.
She has an 80% approval rating for good damn reason, or has the sexism destroyed all objectivity for you already?
Make no mistake - racism and sexism are the new Lib PLatforms...
"Bros before Hoes?" - that sums it up, huh?
There is no confusion - "it is, what it is" - why cover for it and LIE?
swiftyread 3 years ago
You totally forgot the other side of Catholic doctrine: social justice. Why is it SOO bad to vote for a liberal? Liberals are FOR social justice, one of the key tenets of Catholicism. It's the reason why Catholics have long been Democrats. You're just another pick-and-choose Christian: taking conservative stances on the "right" issues but denying the liberal ones even if your church or faith says it's ok.
whoo689 3 years ago
You do know that Liberal-Democrats WERE THE SLAVE OWNERS, right?? Social Justice being talked about by Democrats...whats next? Republicans' gave this country "social justice" in defeating the Southern Democratic Slave Owners!!
The Church is also against Killing others for Social Reasons. ABORTION? R U on the wrong side of history--again?
Libs who think they are Catholic (like Pelosi) have been called out for not being in Communion with the Church. No GOPrs have been barred from communion.
swiftyread 2 years ago
and if you want to call barack a sell out i have two words for you PHIL GRAHAM mccain's economic advisor baby look it up now those two are real sell outs
FlaggyStar 3 years ago
Phil Graham...is that the best you got? really? ex democrat senator, Phil graham? Who comes with no SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY?
Face it - you are in trouble on this issue..the LIBERALS sold the poor on BAD LOANS...took all of our money and then gave it to OBAMAS "SPECIAL" rich people.
OBAMA didnt give he money to the poor to keep them in their houses...though he says that we need to do just that - he then came out against it as McCain introduced 300 billion to do just that - Obama is an idiot
swiftyread 3 years ago
Thats not quite the way it happened. The people could afford the houses just fine, until Bush fucked up our economy when he flushed our money down the Iraq war. That put big business in a bind so they put the squeeze on the people through legal loopholes that allowed them to raise housing taxes and loan percentages to make up the difference they were losing from Bush. Then the price of gas sky rockets 300% too. C'mon!!! Bush basically fucked us up, by making the improbable happen..
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
If they could afford the houses just fine - then why the foreclosures? Why the collapse of Fannie, Freddie and Country Wide?
Maybe you think it is a waste of money to fight for freedom and against tyrants - but we've been doing it since the CIVIL WAR.
Dont forget the money re 911 & katrina & the floods etc.
I think it was the Demcorats who blocked REGUALTION of hybrid Fan & Fred in 2005 - right before Dodd got his sweetheart deal & Frank got his homosexual affair with a Fannie CEO
swiftyread 3 years ago
I explained why I believe it all went to hell in the comment you replied to.
Tyrants that pose an immediate threat to us, not this trumped up Iraq war. We ended up helping Iran when we interfered so now what?
& What about relief funds? 9/11 ground zero is still a hole in the ground - money wasted. N.O. is still fucked up looking - wasted money. & global warming is worsening our natural disaster season, while our $ value goes under.
I know Bush block US production hybrid cars for big oil.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Ask the people of Halabja how trumped up the war is...
And why the hell would we leave Iraq (as your party says we should, because its a religious war) and then go into Darfor...another Religious conflict? Thats the kettle, man.
I know about the WTC - my friend was in it. Problem isnt money, its how to memorialize the victims...no one can agree.
He blocked the production of hybrids? Got a link for it? Funny, until a yr ago hybrids were only manufactured by foreign countries -
swiftyread 3 years ago
ttypically war is good for economies - I dont see how OPEC, who holds our economy hostage - has to do with Bush.
It is almost laughable that you make such an arguement in hindsight - considering Pelosi's Energy Bill.
Whats with the cussing Child? Why so upset?
swiftyread 3 years ago
two yrs of regulation does not fix 26 yrs of supported deregulation by john mccain he hasnt been a mavarick and has always been for less regulation not more. Obama is the best choice this country has look at mccain judgement in his VP and you are still voting for him knowing that sara palin could be president if you argee with sara palin and if you feel john judgement is sound then you have no right to speak of politics
FlaggyStar 3 years ago
Yep, it does.
But since the LIberals, who love Obama, blocked McCain in 2005 from regulating the Socialist Experiment (Fannie / freddie) we now find ourselves relying on the govt to bail Obamas Buddies out...in housing
Deregulation is generally good for business - who then make money and hire AMERICANS.
Signed
Bill Clintons NAFTA
swiftyread 3 years ago
One more thing...if trickle down doesnt work- like Osama says - then why in the blue hell did he just vote for the bail out of wall street and approve of the trickle effect??
He says is all Bush's fault, but doesnt tell you that CONGRESS HOLDS THE PURSE STRINGS..and denies that the GOP tried to reign Freddie and Fannie in back in 2005.
Obama's Denial - not a good thing for any American.
swiftyread 3 years ago
'lip-stick' remark was not that bad so what you are saying is that she doesnt have tough skin to be the vice president?
You guys are so funny ((you just wanted and out!!! )) so you can feel better about not voteting for a (( Brilliant black man as the new president)), racism is still a big problem in America. You whether have higher food and gas pieces for another four years then vote for the best candidate thats a sickness!!!!!!!
tonyfears 3 years ago
THose who concern themselves with race too much are what we call RACIST.
Those who concern themselves too much with gender are called SEXIST....
you define yourself well without ever saying where your coming from...
obviously youre a true LIBERAL who wants everyone to be like everyone else - robots. We like INDEPENDENCE here..not GOVT MANDATED DEPENDENCE. The same party who fought to enslave others now people dependent on them ...their enslaving mechanism is what we call FEDERAL PROGRAMS.
swiftyread 3 years ago
b ankers helped out sourced America...I thought the out sourcing was result of Bill Clintons INK ON NAFTA...but I agree with you to a point. We could just let small busniess sell the bad loans, insure the ones with equity & make whole honest investors. It didnt take 700 or 850 BILLION. Toxic Sub Primes removal from the system, allow small business to re-sell them, insure investments to amke whole - no profit...would have done it just fine. Instead "the many" made "the few" richer = Socialism
swiftyread 3 years ago
As for War for Oil and Profit...kind of a weak arguement. Try calling your rep and asking him why the govt values oil more than the lives of the nations children - as they are still WITHOLDING our own oil from us.
Iriaq contributs a whole 5% oil to OPEC - if you served when I did, youd know why we went after Sadam - of course you all found HALBJA. Sadam and Chemical Ali were both found guilty of GENOCIDE - but maybe we should have ignored him during a war on terror...NOT. UN anyone?
swiftyread 3 years ago
You say Obama didn't help raise money for Hurricane Gustav? Well apparently your not subscribed to his message updates. He sent an email and text message asking for donations to help the Red Cross before the Hurricane even hit. Rather than accepting money on behalf of the Red Cross, gave a direct link to donate to them rather than using the opportunity for good press.
r3vmixman 3 years ago
so he didnt donate any of his campaign funds for the victims during a disaster? I thought I said that...my mom called contributors for Gustav Victims for the Church...personal attention, not a text.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Does Barack STILL do COCAINE? Per his book he was a user while studying to be a lawyer - and per Hillary he was a dealer too!
swiftyread 3 years ago
It seems rather naive to still refer to it as the war on terror. I fail to believe our actions overseas in the past 8 years have made us any safer. I fear for the day when these children affected by the wars grow up and seek retribution
Baseless attacks on how Obama will wreck the already desperate economy seems to be the only thing keeping McCain afloat. It's a sad, sad world we live in.
squeakvl 3 years ago
Naive?
Well, speaking as a Gulf 1 veteran - who actually has first hand knowledge of the global threat - especially regarding nuclear target - terrorism is REAL & if you dont "feel" safer - ask yourself how many "terrorist plots" have been deterred since 911 - that is IF your being sincere & honest, which doesnt SEEM to be the priority of your party. When you say you fear children,are you talking of the ones of HALABJA or the ones WE FREED?They are allies regardless of your party's propaganda
swiftyread 3 years ago
Desperate? What has Barack PROPOSED? Instead he attacks that which IS proposed - is that the change I am to believe in?
Desperate is attacking women based on SEXISM & attaccking the elederly as it is politcally feasible - If I were Mac I might point out BARACKS COCAINE HABIT-like Hillary did- would that be desperate or would it be the truth?
THat is the sad reality - you want a socialist, drug dealer for president - and that IS the SADDEST of all - tho I am sure Russia will like us more :o/
swiftyread 3 years ago
If he has a cocain habit and was still able to graduate Jurist Doctorate Magna Cum Laude of Harvard Law with a double major then what does that say about McCain, the gambling, Keating 5 Mafia, 5 plane crashing, demented, 170 lobbyist liar when he can't even defend himself in a debate with Obama in an area that's supposed to be McCain's specialty?
StewardBClinton 3 years ago
IF? No, OBAMA IS A COKE HEAD & wrote about it in his book. Hillary said he was a DEALER.
Keating, who John helped convict, was part of a Real Estate S&L Deal - almost like WHITEWATER...not as bad as this bail out! Mac was 1 of 5...the other 4 were LIBERALS, not MAFIA.
What was Mac doing as a pilot & why wasnt he at law school in England with Bubba??
The BAIL OUT Reads like Obamas BENEFACTORS LIST, of course he said he wouldnt take special interst money - until he took it.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Ya gotta luv all the total lies being spewed by McCain supporters.
These folks never do a lick of homework or fact checking, they just take John & Sarah's word for it.
Pity the country and the world if McCain wins.
JohnDeBunkTest 3 years ago
Like what - Washingtonm Post has confirmed his connection with Fannie Mae CEO...washingtonpost.voices there FACT check. Fannie was created under LBJ's "Great Society" there, fact - & it was USED by Clinton to garner SUB PRIME LOANS - the root cause of this collapse...but you go ahead & stay in that DENIAL over it. I would 2 if I were a LIB - The country is going to be a soicalist one with OBAMA - McCain is a hero who faught corrution. Obama is one of the corrupt - good luck arguing it too.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Sure, Obama made the Fannie mess before he even got into office ...NOT.
As for the LIE that one of the Fannie Mae people was his advisor, this has been soundly refuted.
McCain supporters (like swifty) retain belief in their own lies, and do not bother checking to learn the truth.
Pity the country and the world if McCain wins.
JohnDeBunkTest 3 years ago
No, my MISINFORMED friend -BILL CLINTON fostered & sponsored the practice of SUB PRIME LOANS to shark style salesmen on WALL ST - he & LBJ alone gave us the biggest distribution of wealth of ANY admin & took from the Gov't & gave to the "Wall St FEW" - not the "collective many" It supports the socialist ideal in the far Left-Dem Party. Pop ur bubble- Obama is the biggest of all takers from the industries affected! Change? Or more mud slinging same? Lehman, Real Estate & Banking R His FUNDERS
swiftyread 3 years ago
ok so Billy done it and for 8 years Bush was not minding the store ... so it's all Barack's fault.
can we say "scape goat" and stupidity?
JohnDeBunkTest 3 years ago
the bail out bill looks like a BENEFACTORS LIST for Obama's Campaign Donors - and you want to debate what Democrat gave us Sub Primes...Barack made his name in taking advantage of the poor or representing them, in housing!
Who are his CONTRIBUTORS? CHASE, JP MORGAN, MERYL LYNCH, CITIBANK, LEHAMN BROS, Fannie Freddie...all waist deep in the collapse -
what did they tell him and WHEN?
swiftyread 3 years ago
A BENEFACTORS LIST for Obama's Campaign Donors.
Wow. Is that Barack a totally sweet talker or what? Imagine getting all of congress and your political opponent to back your Campaign Donors!
The truth is that Obama insisted the bailout have serious oversight firstly because of who McCain's campaign staff were, and what lobbying they did.
Pay attention to whom is on what side of the fence.
JohnDeBunkTest 3 years ago
Yes, all the benefactors from the bail out are FUNDING OBAMA.
How many give money to McCain??
Lobbying doesnt hurt WITHOUT the lobbyist's SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY which leaves a politician BEHOLDEN...McCain takes NONE.
Frank was actually having homosexual relations with a top exec from Fannie - pardon the pun. Frank is a BIG supporter of Obama too - but you wont hear it from Osama.
Funny how now Palestine is even contributing to Baracks campaign..whose next, the Iatola?
Check please.
swiftyread 3 years ago
hey swifty, who is running McCain's campaign?
you are selling a dirty pot.
JohnDeBunkTest 3 years ago
I can tell you that WILLIAM AYERS is NOT running Johnny Macs Campaign - like he did Obama's Chi-Town Senatorial one.
Get out the vote, huh? ;o) - I get it...get the vote right out of the need for contitutional adherence, right?
Just like Obama, the Feds will now look at signatures relative voter fraud...
PS
They will not be concerned with Macs camp - but ACORN radicals from the AYERS/OBAMA camp.
Cheers John - good luck
swiftyread 3 years ago
ps JOHN
Lobbyist dont have any teeth when they dont have a fat ole CHECK BOOK.
ITS THE MONEY JohnBunker, that leaves the politician BEHOLDEN...not the advice, the money.
Joe Bidens SON and BROTHER are both being investigated for ILLEGAL LOBBYING ACTIVITES...by the way :) oh, its true
swiftyread 3 years ago
Your side has a 100% negative advert and net strategy. Worse, your stuff is silly. Now look at what McCain said about G Gordon Liddy in January, and at who is running his campaign.
Have a look at the pols Swifty.
People aren't buying what you are selling.
JohnDeBunkTest 3 years ago
Johny me boy,
These are very negative times - I think you would agree with that..but since when does offering fact viewed as mud slinging or being negative?
Baracks record is a source of enlightenment to the voter, so why cant we talk to it?
Why should it go left unnoticed - its the record that tells the tale of the man
swiftyread 3 years ago
Barack Obama cut his teeth on the housing issue - in a word he is a SELL OUT. he didnt help the poor, he hurt the poor - and his rich CONTRIBUTORS are the benefactors in the end.
Hows that for a reply - too honest?
The GOP tried to regulate Fannie and Freddie in 2005...of course you know that now, right? its been thoroughly covered
swiftyread 3 years ago
Many Senior citizens, disabled and injured, uneducated, and poor people can not e-mail, type, or use the internet ! They are not in Obamas elitist class. They are sub-standard Americans in the eyes of Mr. Obamas surrogates. Mr. Obama only represents the DNC, Reid/Pelosi/Soras, and far-far left activist groups. Certainly not middle class, middle income Americans. This man as Prez. would be disasterous. Note that many of the pro-Obama remarks across the net are coming from foreigners.
sxobekuj 3 years ago
Hey SX,
your comment about union bosses got deleted...can you restate it for us again, please?
swiftyread 3 years ago
So now Obama is attacking handicapped people for not being able to perform normal task. When will he stop attacking Americans, and stop trying to impress them with rhetoric. Ms. Pelosi is waiting for him to get elected to put forth the Democratic congresses spending bills (due the end of this month). They will hold them 'till Jan. If elected, Obama will sign the largest spending increase in U.S. history !! Obama has been chosen to be a rubber-stamp for Reid/Pelosi/Soras.
sxobekuj 3 years ago
well done!
swiftyread 3 years ago
well the congress was majority republican up until the democrats took over so give or take the repbulicans have been largely responisble for acting on bush's retarde policys. also with so many reps resgning with scandal after flippin scandal no one with sound judgement wants another four yrs of the same.
FlaggyStar 3 years ago
How long did the Democrats have control before 96? Try 40 yrs, and what have then done since 2004? Nothing - yet blame Bush for the Congress who holds the purse strings? Brilliant, but old & tired tactics made by the desperate. Not offending you, just the tactic set forth for you. "Retard Policies" - is that another slam on Pain? That is just so cruel, mean & cold - even for a leftist to say...what reps? obviously that isnt on anyones mind but yours - for some reason
swiftyread 3 years ago
only a fool would have to belive that china isnt rising in power its economy is growing larger than japan's. and the only reason the diet has not been able to change article 9 of the japanese constitution preventing them from acting in is because many people in the diet are opposed to changing it.
FlaggyStar 3 years ago
Please try to refrain from using cuss words -
as we have all seen, You Tube is cracking down on inciting behavior - especially by terrorist.
In that spirit "cussing remarks" will not be tolerated on this board in the future...
swiftyread 3 years ago
Well eight years of Conservative bullshit really didn't take us anywhere!! It actually fucked up our country!! I'd take Obama over McCain ANY DAY!! Obama isn't just a good speaker....he has displayed confidence that he will fix our country up!!
McCain - "I will catch Bin Laden IF elected!" Sir, that's considered BLACKMAIL!!
So you're going to swiftboat Obama, that's what ur name implies! Using attack methods and not solid facts!
lebaneseameer 3 years ago
You DO know how to take 'hyperbole' to new lengths, "McCain withholding national security "secrets," is just assinine - even for a leftist. SWIFTY happens to be my middle name, SWIFT & usder-ids are for those who have to hide. Bush also carried the country & its market through 9.11, the stock market crash, 2 floods, 4 hurricanse, wild fires, a WAR with more than 2 fronts, its reconstruction & natural disaster, yet you blame who? you're ever ready to place blame on all but CONGRESS, why's that??
swiftyread 3 years ago
Yo Dude, wake up !! The democratic party has been filibustering policies put forth by the Bush admin. for the past 8 yrs. (They even blocked a bill that required parental notification to take a 12 yr. old across a state line for an abortion)(got any daughters?). Even now all the work congress was required to do this past year is being withheld by Congress in hopes that Obama will be elected. Obama will be a rubber-stamp for Reid/Pelosi/Soras. Confidence? Does that go on a resume ?
sxobekuj 3 years ago
Bravo!
swiftyread 3 years ago
Obama lost me, I was a huge fan but:
the "lipstick" gaffe, pulleeeze dummy.
Continuing the war effort in Afghanistan? Listen to Ron Paul, then talk to me.
Not choosing Hillary, dumbass.
twodoggzz 3 years ago
Obama is elusively inspiring, but towards midirection. "We" believe that 'freedom' is a "God given right" to every single human. The Frendch agreed "for a while" & revolted. Liberty is an intrinsic, inherent quality granted - not man made - but man can certainly take effort to corrupt & distort it ...as we all now see. Massive firings & rehires into a new branch of military called "volunteerism" is to make all more "socialistic" - which is contrary to what the founders called - freedom
swiftyread 3 years ago
Like Bush didnt already allow private armies to fight in Iraq, and he paid them far more than our own soldiers.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
they have a different detail then the military - if youd like to know about it and how indepth it is, call the DoD. I have covered BLACKWATER - trust me - the military is thankful for them ,as are we.
swiftyread 3 years ago
What, Hillary was almost as bad a a repub with her campaign against him. 'Lip stick' was not a gaffe it was a pathetically poor twist of Obamas words. And Afghanistan is were we should have gone anyway after 9/11, because they did it not Iraq.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
no - she was much worse.
swiftyread 3 years ago
China...oh, please. They cant even afford to feed their own people, it's a third world country trying to appear "modern." I'll use an Asian powerhouse too- JAPAN, who has yet to change the Constitution offered them post WW2! They're a republic now & vote + work as they see fit & not as their gov't demands. Again, they are an economic powerhouse. China's MONARCHY is well fed though, just not the 1 BILLION under them. But hey, maybe we could limit baby production too - is that the plan?
swiftyread 3 years ago
They can foreclose on our land if we cant pay them back.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Yeah- just like Japan in the 80s, right? Tell you what - when China wants to collect, then we will also start collecting as well. Or how about this, we stop our country from giving billions away every yr to foreign countries &B then pay our debt off and leave a surplus? Howd that be? Should I name you some of the debts owed us? or not? Can these SOCIALIST also "BUY OUT" our health care industry too? Cuz we can not afford it - 'according' to a very vocal, but 'a very minority few'
swiftyread 3 years ago
But this isnt Japan in the 80's its China today. A lot has changed. More work being outsourced and less unbiased media information. But either way as a country we are not as strong as we were back than anyhow.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
It all has changed, but nothing really has changed at all. Markets have always been open & free. Clinton, the Rhode Scholar, signed NAFTA to furhter the market & its production. If UNIONS didnt insure it was so expensive to employ, then companies wouldn't outsource at all. But Barack will "build you a job" as if this is the Great Depression. well, its not. This market is stronger than Clintons & we are safer despite terrorist. OBAMA seeks to weaken DEFENSE - the one weaken by Clinton also..NO
swiftyread 3 years ago
No things change a lot. People lose while others win. And under the Repubs the wealthy win all the way around. That just doesnt happen when Dems run things. And we're not stronger with a depleted military, a president that wont listen to the people or his military advisors, and whose lies to his own people and actions around the world have made us look worse around the world, not better. People around the world are rooting for Obama, because they know what happens to us will effect them too.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
"Nothing changes a lot?" We are Americans who have the God given right to pursue what we wish, but it doest mean anyone gets to rob anyone else. Its not the job of government to get payback for you - its up to you to do what makes you happy, in a field you like and anywhere you like as well. Rich republicans "get to keep thier money?" Thats the argument? Whose money do those enslaved by a socialist example get to keep without any return? Buying votes, keeping people down is not sound judgment
swiftyread 3 years ago
But thats what the Repubs already do.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
The party which fought to enslave others, now forces people subservient to gov't via socialist "programs."
The new tool is complacency & 'welfare' is the enslaving mechanism
The North & Lincoln were not "liberal" nor did things for faddish reason- The North did things because of faith (!!) that all men are indeed created equal & free - even us indentured slaves, the irish.
Search to find truth about our beginning & whether or not a socialist government is consistent w. that faith
swiftyread 3 years ago
See below - Obama says he "is a Christian," but his supporters call Christians "crazy". Obama committed to only accepting Public Campaign Finance - but then took Special Interest's money. Whose interests are being served? Special Interest are being "served." He says he is Christian & then votes to murder newly born babies, BUT ONLY WHEN THE BABY HAS... "down syndrome" - like Sarahs baby, Trig. Nice, Obama, real Nice.
Another governor by convenience IS NOT CHANGE to believe in.
swiftyread 3 years ago
That's not what I get from his plan. It's the woman's choice no matter who agrees or not. & its not all christians just the uber-christians. The ones that dont believe in science. And who's special interest money did he take?
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
My reply is exactly Baracks economic plan - regardless of what "you get from it." It is "GODS choice" as to who gets pregnant or not - not our willful prides'. When youre talking "uber-christians" (how very nazi of you) youre talking about CATHOLICS & you offend a vast majority of the nation, who are very well educated - Science is science and no more than that.. See the Vatican's PadreFunes com - "big bang is possible but intellgient life from other than intelligent desin is"...well, HUBRIST!
swiftyread 3 years ago
Yes its Gods choice but we a humans do have some control and say, as it should be. & its not Nazi of me when these particular christians believe such hypocrisy - rights for all, but gays, pro life for humans but hunting animals, & picking and choosing when to trust science. Its not Catholics, Im Catholic. Its Christians, bible-belt christians that looked at Bush as the messiah, and believed that Jesus was white.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
What in the blue hell are you talking about? Huber Christian is to say that they are not worthy of basic consideration; hence NAZI-like - ur only replacing the Jewish. I have never seen a "Christian" picking & choosing when to use Science - name some examples. Do these same Christians view Obama as the chosen one - the messiah - and why or why not? It is not a basic right for anyone to take a life - I am square in the middle of this bible-belt & theyre no different from YOU or I, Catholic.
swiftyread 3 years ago
No I mean their opinion shouldnt be made into a law simple because they dont like something. The Repubs appeal to them because they try to keep the status quo on things that bind or oppress others. Gays cant have the same rights as straights, wanting to the bible to be taught as a means of science = denouncing evolution, but they go to the Dr.'s for check-ups, its all science, trying to get books banned = censoring, wanting to teach abstinence only. Repub is sheer hypocrisy plan and simple.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
The only 'thing' that binds people or holds them down is enslaving them with complacency. The same party who fought to enslave others now uses socialism to surpress all who apply. This is not an American Process either - it was develope dout of neccessity over 70 yrs ago. This is not the dpression and it is STILL not a socialism - yet. Read Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx - it was madatory for all military to be trained on - "they will take over from within, without firing a single bullet"
swiftyread 3 years ago
And you dont think the Repubs are doing that now with their fear-mongering?
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
What fear mongering - the sexist type fear mongering or the religuous right type fear monegering - or the fear mongering of the poor?
swiftyread 3 years ago
All of the above. Racial fear mongering terrorist fear mongering. all of it.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Newsflash: Obama plays the race card like its an ace in the hole. Ask Hillary & Bill Clinton how badly he "fear mongers" Race
I see youre one that fell asleep after 9.11 - that 'security blanket' is made of Military Intel. Their problem is people dont believe what happened so they search out new causes - 'certainly no one wants each of us dead, right?' Wrong. Terrorist dont care if you like & support them - they care if you pray like them. If not, youre an infidel best dealt w/ thru Jihad
swiftyread 3 years ago
Children - why do you look to separate us on issues of marality, which Government should not delve into? Gays, abortion socialism ...these are all moral issues and 70% of this country is Christian. You offend many - well, not you but some candidates do -as does Chris Matthews. Do you know what hypcrisy is? How about calling McCain out for using 'lobbyist' in his campaign...while Obama has the largest amount ever in Special Interest Grp Funding - one helped pay for his house - tho now in jail.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Again, show me where this is true about Obama. And it's not which government should its which government does - Repub government -the one thats supposed to be so hands-off.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
"npr(dot)org/templates/story/story(dot)php?storyId=87817797"
The religuous smear that youve laid down in here should indicate the DEM' religuous bias towards Christians is clear.
Dems, media and candidates alike divide America w/ these non-sensical squirmishes about abortion, gays, race, women etc etc - we are an "uber-majority" (as u say) & we are of Christian faith...these issues are losers for you - well, not you but the liberal democrats - which, hello, the vast maj. is not.
swiftyread 3 years ago
the liberal democrat thinks itself far superior regarding intellect to the avg American, just see Matt Damons take on Palin to read about it.
We "commoners" are not liberal democrats - we are the middle of the board - some misguided must be reminded of faith, while others have to be reminded of responsibility.
swiftyread 3 years ago
That is who "we are." Liberal Democrats are windbags who shout the loudest of all - for some reason - they need your attention & approval, for some reason - and they make it look sooo....good. at its core these type people are transparent - when informed, their direction is to change our economy from a 'free market' to a 'gvoernor run or socialist' one ...and I am sorry, but this is the wrong country for you - if you support that type mentality.
swiftyread 3 years ago
Politicians are supposed to look for our approval thats why te approval rating is such a big deal. And look what happens in a free market, the people get dicked. 1st companies cheated their workers, then came unions. Now the free market means companies can set up shop outside the US - where again, no unions. Its the Dems that try to save the people from the greedy Repubs & their company friends, & from those dumb enough to vote outside their financial interest.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
Approval ratings should not drive policy - the old "stick the finger in the wind" to gage perception trick offers no leadership qualities.
Leaders have to make tough decision which are not always "popular," nor supported by Sat Night Live.
No one likes war, for example, but sometimes a book can not offer solution...especially when the enemy wants to cut ur head off for not praying like they do...
swiftyread 3 years ago
you admitt to your being a socialist, I admire your passion. The premise that people are free to 'trade' at will, w/o gov't interference is paramount to being American- why would liberated people opt for a system which promotes more govt intrusion/control we just revolted against the same & de-armed 'feudalism?" aka Eng. / Fra.
I say tax foreign biz who do biz here & dont tax amer. biz during a world economic war. Import taxes can relieve poeple's tax burden & protect those who employ us
swiftyread 3 years ago
Bullshit!! Dems dont think they're superior. Its Bush thats been following his gut for six yrs on Iraq, even though it was afghanistan tha did 9/11.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
What does those who think theyre elite (liberals) have to do with the war?
Iraq was a terrorist nation with WMDs, they ignored UN Sanctions for 10 years and aft 9.11 we were vulknerable to terorrist. The UN could not enforce its sanctions and EVERYONE voted for war - all based on the SAME intellegence from teh CIA / FBI that the Pres had...war is hell, not any one mans fault.
swiftyread 3 years ago
There were "no WMD" and Iraq had "No ties to terrorist organizations". It is all made up bs, Bin Laden and anyone else being displayed as a terrorist leader are actors on the bankroll of this corrupt government. Paid to keep the people of this country in fear. The lemmings of this country walked right off the cliff. Not everyone are so blind, WAKE UP!!!
Hiddenblademaster 3 years ago
tell that to the 50,000 bodies found dead in the mass graves of Halabja - dead result of Sadam & Chemical Ali's attack on their own. This is a fact people, he gassed his own people using CHEMICAL WARFARE aka-WMDs.
No, it is a part of InterNational Economic War evidenced by the attacks on WORLD TRADE in 2001 & the ones profitting the most are the Saudis - who sponsored each 9.11 terrorist & is home to one....Osama Bin Laden - - the rest of ur comment is way to "conspiracy theory" ...SAUDI
swiftyread 3 years ago
see HALABJA dumb dumb. Mass GRAVES full of people GASSED by WMDS!
Courtesy of Sadam - the terrorist
and CHEMICAL ALI
Check please
youre the blind one...but youre young & I understand.
Take it from a REAL VETERAN...IRAQ was an enemy to LIBERTY
swiftyread 3 years ago
My bias is towards the uber-christians one-sided beliefs, which are unconstitutional. And I doubt that the vast majority of people are Repub. That hasnt been the case for a long time. How else could a black man named Barake Obama, even have made it this far?
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
So you discriminate those more religuous than yourself. The constitution has nothing to do with religion - other than protecting peoples right to worship as they see fit..not outlaw or create civil bias towards them...
Thats why we Cathoilcs are here! We left Europe (ENGLAND) because of our being BEHEADED based on our FAITH. Engalnd's 'leadership' decided that the Catholics were wrong about DIVORCE - England was selfish - so they 'made up' their own religion n kicked our asses- bad like.
swiftyread 3 years ago
More religious? That makes sense to you? Im not an atheist, so they are not more religious, just more fanatic in their devotion. Thats not the same thing.
Yes and now here the religious right vote presidents into office that share their views so they can make laws that hinder others. Not quite a beheading but still, unconstitutional.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
more religious makes perfect sense to me because I see a lot of people going to mass, but not follwing their RELIGIOUS ORDER.
Youre a Catholic Childrens...read the Catechism. I have my copy right here, if you have any questions or need any reference
swiftyread 3 years ago
Ok, I will.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
:)
great response
lol
swiftyread 3 years ago
The vast - and I mean - uber-majority...are Christian. 70% of America is CHRISTIAN. Go to gallup or check out our census...its true. We were founded as Christians who were being tormented by our 'motherland" and chased out of country.
We are a christian nation...and not too many are pro death
swiftyread 3 years ago
That maybe so but that doesnt mean uber-christian, thats a minority.
Yes instead of standing up and fighting for their rights, like blacks did, they came here, backstabbed the natives and stole their land. Then created white privilege. But hey its a vicious cycle.
So the christians may not be pro-death, but they sure are pro-killing.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago
You're saying that our being put to death for religusous belief was sound policy. U just said that Christians were being "killed" IN EU, but escaped, came here & ruined the country - as if Indians never did a thing worng at all, which is historically inaccurate.
Christians should have just all DIED in EUROPE instead of coming here b/c of the poor indidan who attacked our forts so badly we almost perished altogether. Christianity almost didnt survive & it sounds as though you feel guilty :/
swiftyread 3 years ago
No Im saying what they should have done was stand up for themselves over the oppression, like everyone in history had to do to survive. But no, what they did was run like bitches, risking death to cross the sea, to a place where they had the weaponry advantage. It was the 'christians' that killed the 'savage Indians' & the 'savage africans' & the 'savage japanese' & so on. & the process created white privilege. The ever-existing intangible cushion I bet no white person could live without.
Childrenscneterh 3 years ago