Wow, in this vid the woman says it took KC 30 days to come out with this story...meaning ofcourse, she did not make it up 30 days later...she made it up back at day one. This 'making up' is yet another fact for the timeline!
Seems like KC had 30 days TO make up the story but she made it up on the day that Zenida filled out an application. Oh, by the way..the card Z filled out, I think it was an appointment card..which means KC could have gotten the information from that card on a day before Z was actually at Sawgrass. The card could have had other information.
If anything, if Z called for an appointment the day before, which would be June 16th, then the info would be in an appointment book. Z filled out a guest card.
Thanks very much.I did not know it was a call card. I doubted all 3 names were called anyway.I was really just asking and repeating some theories I have heard because I wanted clarification. There have been SO many stories out there - it's hard! Yes, the 16/17th date in question is indeed important.
Have the cops gone to the Sawgrass apartments and asked any of the employees if they let Casey (Pig, dog b*tch) look at the guest log or saw her looking at it?
Good PoinT? Zenida was at Sawgrass Apts. on a day in June, and when LE questioned Casey she told them Zenida at Sawgrass apts has Caylee. Well, that means Casey made up the Zenida story around the time she killed Caylee... Hmmmm.when Casey heard Zenida/s name at the apts, bet she thought. "Ah, that sounds like Zani. I think I will yse that name", thus the story of Zanida was developed.
From what NG just said in this vid, it was in fact the first mention of the name "Zanida" and KA never mentioned it before the cops talked to her..but Zanida was at Sawgrass THAT VERY DAY that the LE talked to KC..listen closely...because I thought it was a different day as Trubisha said above...But NG says it was the same day the KC spoke to LE....I really think NG has it wrong (?)
I concur HatRatt! It has been stated by someone at Sawgrass Apts. that Zenida (the real person shown in clips) was there filling out paperwork in the complex (perhaps rental office?) and she allegedly forgot to sign the application.Now upon exiting she was verbally called back by her name to sign it.That is the story, and I wonder if it can be verified (or has) by LE.
Now naturally, the argument Casey provides is that she made mention of this person prior to the date. Cindy has openly stated prior knowledge of a Zanny. Was there ever proven mention of Zanny before by Casey ? (text or conversations) A theory of explanation gaining popularity is that she was referring to the street term for Xanax. It is plausible and while all of it speculative I would like to see this somehow verified.There are much more important issues to bring forward but still.
I heard of KC referring to "Zanny" before, way before but never a mention of the name "Zenida" before the LE talked to her. Now if Cindy says she heard the name before then Cindy is lieing There are videos where witnesses mention Zanny and the fact theat KC used that name in months before June. Tony Lazzaro's interview perhaps.
I wonder if other women with the name Zenida get called 'Zanny" for short? This is all to strange. I just don't see the manager coming out and calling "Zanieda Fernandez Gonzalez!" Come back and sign your app please! And yet Casey stated to the police Zanieda's full name and how to spell it, during the first interview.
Real good point, day...it seems I recall that way, way back ( when KC was interviewed by LE),that there was an "inquiry card" filled out by Z. This is a separate thing from the application..and I heard someone in news media comment that KC may somehow have gotten that card saying that it may have been dropped or KC entered the complex office and picked it up...they too were questioning just how she got Zs whole name back last June.
It is strange. I agree daytoday - (firstly though, I never said she used all 3 names to call her back.) I'm just throwing questions out there and wondering because I have heard this reported. Perhaps she used only first, name? Perhaps she said Mrs.Gonzales, no idea.
As for the manager, or another employee, exactly what I have been wondering.How DID she ever get that full info and spelling? We'd need to know more and also what is the set up of the place where the app was filled out.
Most rental offices should be secure and private but many are not - I have seen this myself. So did casey even hear ? Did she hear a first name that sounded like it began with Z, and perhaps pop inside the office? All it would take is a glance on a desk. Just theories. I am mostly asking what others have heard on this.
Padilla claims that Casey was at Sawgrass apartments on June 17th while driving Tony's jeep. So far I haven't heard a good enough reason on why Casey was at Sawgrass Apts. on June 17th especially since Caylee was already gone on June 15th. The story Casey came up with began on June 17th and it all has to do with what happened at Sawgrass.
I'm with you, I do not believe that the manager of Sawgrass ever called out to Zanaida to come back and sign the guest card and MIRACOUSLY Casey was right there to hear it on June 17th.
Ok, lets say that Z's at the apt. complex and forgets to sign the lease. Apt manager realizes this and comes out and calls Z back in to do the signing. Would he call out Z's 1st Middle and last name? Police interview Casey knew exactly how to spell Z's name and always used Z's whole name. She had to have gotten into that office and read Z's name off of paperwork. Did she know the apt. manager?
Also, realize that KC had to go on the "hunt" for someone to fill in for the "Zanny" person that was "caring" for Caylee...so she went stalking at Sawgrass and just happened to find the perfect prop..Hu? maybe? But there must be more...
According to reports, the family heard the name Zanny before so what are the chances of Casey being at the right place and time at Sawgrass when a Zanaida filled out a guest card to view Apt 210. Chances are a "million to one". There is much, much more to this yet to be uncovered and a very, very important day ... June 17th.
Z didn't sign a lease, she only filled out a guest card so she can view Apt 210. No one really knows if Casey knew someone in the office although reports say that no one in the office ever saw Casey or Caylee.
Wow, in this vid the woman says it took KC 30 days to come out with this story...meaning ofcourse, she did not make it up 30 days later...she made it up back at day one. This 'making up' is yet another fact for the timeline!
Trubisha 3 years ago
Seems like KC had 30 days TO make up the story but she made it up on the day that Zenida filled out an application. Oh, by the way..the card Z filled out, I think it was an appointment card..which means KC could have gotten the information from that card on a day before Z was actually at Sawgrass. The card could have had other information.
HatRatt 3 years ago
If anything, if Z called for an appointment the day before, which would be June 16th, then the info would be in an appointment book. Z filled out a guest card.
Sierra1947 3 years ago
Thanks very much.I did not know it was a call card. I doubted all 3 names were called anyway.I was really just asking and repeating some theories I have heard because I wanted clarification. There have been SO many stories out there - it's hard! Yes, the 16/17th date in question is indeed important.
g0thmoth 3 years ago
Hi Sierra and All, Ya, KC wouldn't have started setting up her con on the 17th if Caylee wasn't gone!
Keep in mind that G told police that when he ever aske Caylee about Z, she drew a blank,,,compared to references of other people.
My theory? KC took off and sat stunned in the real world with no sitter, not wanting to go home and a dead child...staring at the possible rental.
Lee said she did her 'stake out' which is parking and staring at Sawgrass. Not so coincidental!
Trubisha 3 years ago
@Sierra1947
Have the cops gone to the Sawgrass apartments and asked any of the employees if they let Casey (Pig, dog b*tch) look at the guest log or saw her looking at it?
MrMap4921 1 year ago
The story began more then likely on June 17th, the day Zanaida went to Sawgrass Apts. to look at Apt. 210.
Sierra1947 3 years ago
Good PoinT? Zenida was at Sawgrass Apts. on a day in June, and when LE questioned Casey she told them Zenida at Sawgrass apts has Caylee. Well, that means Casey made up the Zenida story around the time she killed Caylee... Hmmmm.when Casey heard Zenida/s name at the apts, bet she thought. "Ah, that sounds like Zani. I think I will yse that name", thus the story of Zanida was developed.
HatRatt 3 years ago
Is that why she just kept telling people the 'nanny' had Caylee? Did she ever mention Zanida's name before the Cops talked to her?
daytodaylife 3 years ago
From what NG just said in this vid, it was in fact the first mention of the name "Zanida" and KA never mentioned it before the cops talked to her..but Zanida was at Sawgrass THAT VERY DAY that the LE talked to KC..listen closely...because I thought it was a different day as Trubisha said above...But NG says it was the same day the KC spoke to LE....I really think NG has it wrong (?)
HatRatt 3 years ago
The day that Zanaida went to Sawgrass Apts was on June 17th. LE talked to Casey on July 15th and July 16th and then Casey was arrested.
Sierra1947 3 years ago
Some of her friends only knew the "nanny" has Caylee.
Sierra1947 3 years ago
I concur HatRatt! It has been stated by someone at Sawgrass Apts. that Zenida (the real person shown in clips) was there filling out paperwork in the complex (perhaps rental office?) and she allegedly forgot to sign the application.Now upon exiting she was verbally called back by her name to sign it.That is the story, and I wonder if it can be verified (or has) by LE.
g0thmoth 3 years ago
(cont'd.)
Now naturally, the argument Casey provides is that she made mention of this person prior to the date. Cindy has openly stated prior knowledge of a Zanny. Was there ever proven mention of Zanny before by Casey ? (text or conversations) A theory of explanation gaining popularity is that she was referring to the street term for Xanax. It is plausible and while all of it speculative I would like to see this somehow verified.There are much more important issues to bring forward but still.
g0thmoth 3 years ago
I heard of KC referring to "Zanny" before, way before but never a mention of the name "Zenida" before the LE talked to her. Now if Cindy says she heard the name before then Cindy is lieing There are videos where witnesses mention Zanny and the fact theat KC used that name in months before June. Tony Lazzaro's interview perhaps.
HatRatt 3 years ago
I wonder if other women with the name Zenida get called 'Zanny" for short? This is all to strange. I just don't see the manager coming out and calling "Zanieda Fernandez Gonzalez!" Come back and sign your app please! And yet Casey stated to the police Zanieda's full name and how to spell it, during the first interview.
daytodaylife 3 years ago
Real good point, day...it seems I recall that way, way back ( when KC was interviewed by LE),that there was an "inquiry card" filled out by Z. This is a separate thing from the application..and I heard someone in news media comment that KC may somehow have gotten that card saying that it may have been dropped or KC entered the complex office and picked it up...they too were questioning just how she got Zs whole name back last June.
HatRatt 3 years ago
This little bit of mystery hopefully will get resolved at trial as it is a very, very important part of this case ...
Sierra1947 3 years ago
It is strange. I agree daytoday - (firstly though, I never said she used all 3 names to call her back.) I'm just throwing questions out there and wondering because I have heard this reported. Perhaps she used only first, name? Perhaps she said Mrs.Gonzales, no idea.
As for the manager, or another employee, exactly what I have been wondering.How DID she ever get that full info and spelling? We'd need to know more and also what is the set up of the place where the app was filled out.
g0thmoth 3 years ago
(cont'd) to daytoday
Most rental offices should be secure and private but many are not - I have seen this myself. So did casey even hear ? Did she hear a first name that sounded like it began with Z, and perhaps pop inside the office? All it would take is a glance on a desk. Just theories. I am mostly asking what others have heard on this.
g0thmoth 3 years ago
Padilla claims that Casey was at Sawgrass apartments on June 17th while driving Tony's jeep. So far I haven't heard a good enough reason on why Casey was at Sawgrass Apts. on June 17th especially since Caylee was already gone on June 15th. The story Casey came up with began on June 17th and it all has to do with what happened at Sawgrass.
Sierra1947 3 years ago
I'm with you, I do not believe that the manager of Sawgrass ever called out to Zanaida to come back and sign the guest card and MIRACOUSLY Casey was right there to hear it on June 17th.
Sierra1947 3 years ago
Ok, lets say that Z's at the apt. complex and forgets to sign the lease. Apt manager realizes this and comes out and calls Z back in to do the signing. Would he call out Z's 1st Middle and last name? Police interview Casey knew exactly how to spell Z's name and always used Z's whole name. She had to have gotten into that office and read Z's name off of paperwork. Did she know the apt. manager?
daytodaylife 3 years ago
Also, realize that KC had to go on the "hunt" for someone to fill in for the "Zanny" person that was "caring" for Caylee...so she went stalking at Sawgrass and just happened to find the perfect prop..Hu? maybe? But there must be more...
HatRatt 3 years ago
According to reports, the family heard the name Zanny before so what are the chances of Casey being at the right place and time at Sawgrass when a Zanaida filled out a guest card to view Apt 210. Chances are a "million to one". There is much, much more to this yet to be uncovered and a very, very important day ... June 17th.
Sierra1947 3 years ago
Z didn't sign a lease, she only filled out a guest card so she can view Apt 210. No one really knows if Casey knew someone in the office although reports say that no one in the office ever saw Casey or Caylee.
Sierra1947 3 years ago