Dawkins is a no good coward who doesnt have the balls to debate William Lane Craige, he's a professional bully who can only bully people who are not on the level to deal with him, even other atheists are calling him a spineless coward for running from Craige.
@killer1000701 Wrong, wrong, wrong. Natural selection is not a chance system. Macroevolution is the result of microevo changes due to geographic separation.
@killer1000701 macro evolution IS micro evolution you baboon. Saying micro evolution doesn't prove macro evolution is like saying your weekly paycheck doesn't count towards your annual income. Your ignorance is the seed of my hate.
Wow man, you are angry at me an insult me, why is that?
If you want keep me insulting i will ignore you next time, talk normal or get out of here.
Macro-evolution is smuggled in Micro-evolution theory in textbooks.
But there is a real different between Macro and Micro evolution.
I already explain that what the different are, you people just believe that is not, that;s why you in believe that the same is, but the fact is its total differences between Micro and Macro.
people get over it THERE IS NO GOD!!! we all evolved from some sort of animal species.. i can prove it.. y do we have tonails.. u think god put them there so we can scratch our ankles. why do we have hair under our arms. y do we take shits. wouldnt god design us just to burn our food off rather then taking a nasty dump.. get over it people.. fkn brainwashed weirdos!
@killer1000701 actually, scientifically speaking evolution is only accepted in theory as is everything in science. bacteria mutate all the time, thats why they try to change the chemistry in flu shots every year. if you understood that evolution is just a simple genetic mutation in a gene that is literally instructions for proteins that make up a characteristic of an organism. and there's technically no proof or disproof of a god either
That why evolution must get rid out of science out of school and no fun from taxpayers, it's not science evolution just 'n religion just as creation is.
Both are science and can't proof that either. Only evolution is tax funded at school.
Evolution and creation has nothing to do with Biologic or science that's why at say the whole time.
Bacteria mutate in different bacterias, that's observe and proved but there is a limit, Micro-evolution is variation within the kind.
I never said that about God has to do. I believe that God is there and create earth space and all in the mints. We are very complicated such a DNA is very complicated, it's designed with intelligence and if evolutionist believe it came from spontaneously it's their religion not mine and should take out of those schoolbooks.
Bacteria is not genetic, it's just a bacteria just unicellular nothing more.
It can not spontaneously give rise to life or earth and space with a bang.
I used to be an atheist myself, but I am a scientist, my message is based on current study and research, Read the given website in flesh: godsurety . org .Listen to the educated people. Mr dawkins has stopped studying, He wants to make MONEY out of low mentality mass, who hate the feeling of "somebody great" naturally "wired" in their brain. Otherwise, his "God Delusion" will be out of business even "God" has been proven Scientifically and it is > F.O.C, Update yourself : godsurety . org
Its painful to watch this guy dodge the question. Just state what you believe unless of course hes beginning all of a sudden to realize how ridiculous this point of view is.
Also anyone who is smarter than me who actually knows, which I'm sure many people are smarter than me of course. Doesn't the first rule of thermodynamics state an energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and that would mean that the Universe could not have just popped into existence from nothing or what. Hawking said the Universe could absolutely come from nothing, but doesn't that violate the rule above
@vafleezers No it doesn't violate the first law. Energy can be created and destroyed at the quantum level, and the Universe just magically popping into existence out of nothing is actually what the creationists believe - not cosmologists.
I believe in God. but I also believe the Earth is billions of years old and in evolution and all the scientific things discovered. I guess I am a Christian, but the bible isn't pure fact to me, sure a lot of it is stories and fables but I still believe in maybe a God for lack of a better term that keeps the Universal forces in check.
@vafleezers Genesis gives you a clue that God could have created the conditions on earth that led to evolution. Where God created the animals it states the order he created them in: sea creatures, fish, reptiles, birds, mammals, primates, humans. This is essentially the same thing evolution says. So if you treat the bible and Genesis as it should be treated (as metaphor and not literal) the bible actually SUPPORTS evolution. It just says God created the conditions that set it in motion
@SCROGY Wrong....Genesis is literal and states how every other theory should be treated...Genesis gives me a clue that the bible was written by men and presented to illiterate people.Evolution science.....Genesis is superstition.
@10290gilmore You have entirely missed my point. I am not saying I believe the bible literally. What I am saying is that the bible itself states that the animals were created, or evolved if you will, in the same order that evolution says. Therefore you can use this against the creationists.
@10290gilmore I'd love to see how you can prove that Gensis is literal and not metaphorical. It's a belief that you cannot prove either way. It is men who mistakenly beleive that Genesis is literal. We know that all ancient religions were based on parables and "stories" if you will to explain things they did not understand. The bible itself is based on older religions, they simply changed to a one God theory of creation.
The dude knows he's going to be pegged an idiot so he cowers and doesn't want to admit what he believes. Good on Dawkins to say: omg you're helping run a country.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. If universe is left to itself, all energy will become useless and the universe cannot sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
THIS WASN'T A DINOSAUR! Microraptor was a bird (that's why it had fully-formed feathers!), but evolutionists classified it as a dinosaur to fit their theory. All of its traits were fully-formed and developed (not in a transitional state, i.e. part scales/part feathers). Species in a true transitional, partially-evolved, state wouldn't be fit for survival. Read the excellent Internet article, "Is New Fossil A Bird-Eating Dinosaur?" by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. Just type your topic of interest in the "search" box on the site!
EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
AMINO ACIDS CAN COME BY CHANCE BUT NOT PROTEINS: Find out why. Read my Pravda Internet article: NASA, FANTASY, AND SCIENCE. Most (not all) scientists believe we're here by chance. That doesn't make the belief a scientific fact. Scientists are human and they have personal motives influencing their various beliefs concerning origins. Mathematical probability shows that it is not rational nor scientific to believe that DNA and life came about by chance. Study the evidence yourself!
THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, origin of life, etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
---> 4 not to mention there is no logical explaination why intelligence and ability to speak evolved only in one specie, and why did it evolve at all in the first place. To survive in wilderness you need fast legs and sharp claws, or even faster legs to run away from those with sharp claws. And what about feelings? They stand in the way instead of help. If evolution was true we would be ruthless killing machines... well we kind are :) but we still can't kill any animal of our size unarmed.
---> 3 as i said, if you look at all animals of one specie, there are no significant diffirences. So how can there be evolution? The other factor is rapid changes of envitorment, e.g. climatte changes and only more resilient species would survive. But that only explains genoicide of entire species (dinosaurs), not evolution. And even if, it would be very small and one time diffirence, and not a morphological one for sure. ---> 4
---> 2 Its either gives a real advantage, or its something that doesn't matter at all. Example: a monkey is born with wings, it has easier access to bananas and can flee from predators easier, that means higher chances of survival. If 2 of his 4 spawns will also have wings, those 2 with wings will have higher chances to survive than the other 2, so after few generations there would be hundreds of flying monkeys in that population. The problem is IT DOESN'T HAPPEN! ---> 3
simple evidence against evolution: it says that there are very minor diffirences between animals in one specie, so small they are not noticeable even in thousands of years. It says that animals with beneficial ones will have higher chances of survival (thats logical), so after many years of natural selection, the population of that specie will be altered (thats also logical). the problem is, if those diffirences are so small we can't even notice them, then how the fuck can they matter? ---> 2
Boy, i know that evolutionist hate Kent and do everything bad talk about him and ignore those facts to keep talk about him.
Give me proof for evolution boy, we already know that people like you (atheist) hate people like me or Kent Hovind get to topic not to the person boy it gets really boring.
So, give me your best evidence for evolution? don't chance from other subject what you people always do in order to ignore those arguments.
Yes i read you post and is more about me than your explain it.
You have nothing arguments about prove for evolution.
Some other fellow like you claim that Macro-evolution is Micro-evolution witch is not true and i explain it to him and you ignore those post like most evolutionist (Atheist)
Now i understand, you are a Kent Hovind hater, that's why you talk trash about me.
Well, point was i mention Kent Hovind because Dawkings refuse a debate with him that's why i bring him in the picture because he know he has no chance to win the debate with Kent :)
Boy, i claim no victory people like do that, if i read your post it's 100% about me no about evolution to prove about it, so who is trolling now you or me?
This is the story of a tiny little leech living inside the intestines of an atheist, who stood up on his tiny little soap box and announced to all the other leeches, that there is no such thing as a human being. And furthermore, it is not up to this tiny little leech to prove his blind faith assumed position, it is up to the other leeches claiming there is a human to prove there is one or else, there is no human being. ATHEISM=OBVIOUS LIE; no human could possibly remotely know there is no God
I never call you stupid, if you don't know between micro-evolution and Macro-evolution is than you are really brainwashed to believe in it because you are brainwashed by those evolutionist.
You are blind, mice-evolution has nothing to do with Macro-evolution,
You don't even know what Macro-evolution is.
Macro evolution is one kind chance over time to another kind.
I wonder did the YEC knew if he believed the earth was 10,000 years old. he didnt seem to want to answer because he just didnt know..... he knew he thought, ah feck this modern science, god dun it!
@killer1000701 For the last time, you clearly have no idea what a vestigial organ is, let alone a chromosome. I never said it was created by evolution to begin with. People are born without them and live just fine even after getting them removed, they're not necessary.
@killer1000701 The bad attitude comes from your ignorance of basic science but claiming something about arguments you presumebly made. No one hates you. You demand arguments but you are not willing to inform yourself about that topic. Maybe you read about it but you obviously have the wrong sources. Try scientific ones. You know, from the people who are experts on that field. Your last statement makes no sense at all. again: talkorigins org and google scholar can help you.
Yes i read you post and is more about me than your explain it.
You have nothing arguments about prove for evolution.
Some other fellow like you claim that Macro-evolution is Micro-evolution witch is not true and i explain it to him and you ignore those post like most evolutionist (Atheist)
@killer1000701 Even Dawkins' "The greatest show on earth" is a great book about evolution. It is easy to read and gives you tons of examples. I personally don't agree with Dawkins on lots of points but his books are not bad. And if you should admid: It is very hard to get into a complex scientific topic in a youtube discussion.
@killer1000701 Wow. You are obviously not able to use the sources. The links I gave you are not books. (except the recommendation of TGSOE) If you are not willing to read it by yourself I don't see any chance to educate you. Go away and troll somewhere else. (I rest my case about the chess with pigeons)
@killer1000701 You want evidence? Well every living thing has a parent. Second point, is that some living creatures are very different from some others, so this must mean changes are happening? Last point, if creationism is right, there should be no dinosaur bones? Yet we find dinosaur bones all the time around the world!
@killer1000701 You sit before the greatest database of all Human knowledge, containing 13.5 billion years of accumulated knowledge, all at your fingertips.
If you STILL think (lol...) that evolution has no proof or evidence, then you're without ANY doubt a complete moron, or you have no ability in using even a simple search-engine.
Take ALL of your silly, childish Creationist arguments to "Talk-Origins" org, and watch your ignorance washed away like sin in the river Jordan.
@killer1000701 Off the top of my head life itself, you, every fossil ever found, every creature that ever lived, DNA, RNA, and Medicine are proof of evolution.
New vaccines and cures every year because the virus' and such evolve and are not effected by the old ones anymore. IE the Flu.
DNA evolved from RNA, RNA came from simpler strands, and before that it's all abiogenesis which is not evolution and is not a complete theory yet but is being worked on, because like evolution, this shit takes time.
And you clearly have the internet, why not use it for something useful instead of trolling youtube?
Bones from, creatures that evolved,You can see bones in the dirt proof evolution?
What kind to a another kind of animal is evolved from the bones in the dirt ?
New vaccines, that has nothing to do with evolution. If you live and eat healthy, then you do not need medication. Second what is evolution i think you don't know what it is.
DNA is evolved from RNA? are you kidding you believe that unproven garbage?
@killer1000701 "What kind to a another kind of animal is evolved from the bones in the dirt ?" My what a little troll you are. or I hope you are trolling because it's a scary thought to think that someone could be stupid enough to actually think that anyone believes bones evolve into animals. Get fucking real man. However if you are this stupid get someone to help you use the internet for something useful and learn a thing or 2 about evolution. It's really not that that.
@killer1000701 And, wait... Didn't you bring up Kent Hovind at some point? I am not quite sure. Someone who does that disqualifies himself so badly from any serious discussion, that it hurts.
Now i understand, you are a Kent Hovind hater, that's why you talk trash about me.
Well, point was i mention Kent Hovind because Dawkings refuse a debate with him that's why i bring him in the picture because he know he has no chance to win the debate with Kent :)
@killer1000701 Hovind is a shyster, a criminal, a fraud and a very, very sly huckster relying on the gullible, ignorant and stupid. The richer you are, the poorer you'll be.
This is why he's currently servicing Bubba in prison, biting pillows and praising Jeebuz with great praise.
Dawkings debating Hovind is like a hungry king lion contemplating a hobbled, blind antelope.
Intellect and vast wisdom over superstitious mumbo and criminal manipulation.
Boy, i know that evolutionist hate Kent and do everything bad talk about him and ignore those facts to keep talk about him.
Give me proof for evolution boy, we already know that people like you (atheist) hate people like me or Kent Hovind get to topic not to the person boy it gets really boring.
So, give me your best evidence for evolution? don't chance from other subject what you people always do in order to ignore those arguments.
@killer1000701 You know what we really dislike ? Deliberate ignorance in the information age. You have NO reason for being the drooling ignorant retard you are. If you deny evolution and the simple fact that 99.99999999% of ALL scientists and educated people understand its absolute veracity, then you are a willful moron.
Kent is a criminal who robs morons. That is why he's Bubba's bitch inside Pokey.
Why call you me a ignorant retard, that's not nice from you.
Give me proof for evolution boy, don't call me a retard if don't have answers.
Talk about evolution not about Kent you really desperate.
Educating destroy the Christian faith boy with evolution smuggle in the textbooks.
You said Kent is criminal, his gifts what he get from other people who support him ministry? You really don't understand between tax supported systems that teach evolution and non tax supported what Kent do.
@killer1000701 Calling you an ignorant moron is not an insult, it's a perfectly valid and apt descrition of you? You have NO reason for being so ignorant, and Bent Hovind is STILL a shyster and criminal, as well as being a fraud, a thief and a despicable huckster preying on the gullible and stupid.
Education destroys ALL religion, because silliness and superstition mixes badly with wisdom and knowledge
@killer1000701 I don't hate you. I pity you. I hate your deliberate ignorance, though. That's hugely offensive in this day and age.
You have NO excuse for being the idiot you are. It's deliberate, because this IS the Information Age.
Go to TalkOrigins and crush your Creationist ignorance and stupidity.
The evidence for evolution is more than that for gravity. If you STILL deny evolution, then just float the fuck away. This planet doesn't need more retards.
@killer1000701 I don't hate Hovind. I just think he is a dishonest idiot with no clue about science. That's all. But that's my last response. @ArgieGamer You are right.
@TheJFKassassin You're welcome to move to Iran, India, Russia, France, Holland, Britain, Brasil etc. Lots of great options for freedom, peace and liberty.
"anyone who's seen the evidence knows that evolution is a fact."
That's incredibly presumptuous and deliberately stupid. Most people who seriously examine the evidence find that evolution is impossible. I say this after putting out the call for several months for people who have examined the evidence and switched from creation to evolution. No one has been able to produce one.
@Orenotter Thats funny. "Most people" "serious examine". How come that 99% scientists and practically 100% of biologists (the people whose profession it is to examine the evidence) have absolutely no problem with evolution as a natural phenomenon in general and the "Theory of Evolution" in particular?
@Orenotter "Most people who seriously examine the evidence find that evolution is impossible" Notice Dawkins said 'seriously' examine the evidence, virtually all Christian scientists; in fields ranging from Biology and Ecology to Geology and Archaeology, understand that evolution is the mechanism of speciation. The majority of Americans are creationists, because the majority of Americans don't even have middle school curriculum level competence, when it comes to evolutionary theory.
@killer1000701 You truly are incompetent and it's impossible to have a real conversation with someone like you. I gave you more than enough solid evidence in my first post. Instead of looking at pictures, actually read.
You give nothing, you ask me for fossil for human, i gave you picture and even a link ware you can see that what you ask for. Further more i disprove your so called evidence.
Don't get frustrated and give the blame to me boy.
What is your evidence for evolution than, give it let see that.
@killer1000701 Are you fucking serious? I hope your trolling, especially after calling him "boy." You can fucking observe evolution occurring in bacteria. YOU CAN OBSERVE IT.
Furthermore, Micro-evolution is the only what is observe not Macro-evolution what you are trying to in it. Dog/Wolf and Coyote are one Kind but variation within the Kind is Micro-evolution.
@killer1000701 You call me blind? You're just stupid. Macro-evolution is just micro-evolution over many generations along with genetic isolation. You have no idea how blind you are, boy.
@xliver4 I don't think it is possible to have a discussion with someone who isn't willing to hear arguments. Killer1000701 is obviously one of the many crationist-trolls who prove the following citation to be true:
"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
Boy, i claim no victory people like do that, if i read your post it's 100% about me no about evolution to prove about it, so who is trolling now you or me?
@killer1000701 So you deny that I (and several other people) provided you answers and/or sources to get the answers? Do you really expect people to present you the ultimate proof of a complete field of science on a salver (within ~300 letters)? Are you really that ignorant? One question: What is your profession? I would like to know where you can work with that mindset.
I never call you stupid, if you don't know between micro-evolution and Macro-evolution is than you are really brainwashed to believe in it because you are brainwashed by those evolutionist.
You are blind, mice-evolution has nothing to do with Macro-evolution,
You don't even know what Macro-evolution is.
Macro evolution is one kind chance over time to another kind.
@killer1000701 Ok maybe you're not stupid, but you're definately ignorant if that's what you don't see how micro and macro evolution is linked. And yes, that is the definition of macro evolution. It is microevolution that occurs over many generations to the point where there is a major difference creating a new species. It's really not that hard to understand if you would just take a second to think.
@killer1000701 What you don't realize is that macro-evolution is a result of micro-evolution. Micro-evolution occurs within the species. Next add in the species being geographically isolated (we'll call it area 1 and 2), and continue micro-evolution in the species from area 1 and 2. 100 years later take the species from area one and from area two and set them side by side. They are no longer the same. They can't reproduce together. The sum of long periods of microevolution is macroevolution.
You believe that Vestigial organ made by evolution, i already give some link with a photo how it looks it is a part of our immune system without it we will quick get ill without this.
Than you talk about chromosomes, you are a joke really sorry for that.
The Young Earth Creationist Politician has indeed no insight as a creationist, he is a easy victim for Dawkings that for sure, Dawkings always choose easy victims.
That's why he refuse a debate with Kent Hovind who know what he talking about.
He also refuse a debate with William Lane Craig, what a such arrogant he is Dawkings.
He take only simple targets nothing more, it is so pitiful talking about disgrace.
@killer1000701 why would he debate craig, he has no proof for a god, he can just talk, we have compoarative anatomy, mlecular biology, vestigal organs, all the fossils in the right places and in the right time, if you want to disprove evolution, find a foosil of a human that is billions of years old, until then you can just talk
@killer1000701 it is not a religion, it is a disbelief, show him evidence for a god and he will change, you have send me a pictures of giant sceletons, what does that have to do with evolution? and fossils are all in the right places and in the right time, if the bible was true we would find humans and dinosaurs and single cell prehistoric animals all together ALL THE TIME, we never find that, evolution is a fact
You want proof i gave you Human fossil nothing more, just what i said.
Fossil are just a bones in a dirt, there is no single way they can know how old they are.
The Bible is very present of Giants.
Dawking is die-hard evolutionist and he want to proof their is no God, so he believe their is no God i believe there is a God, look all that complex things or live we see.
Both are religions, that's my point. most people here are so hate full against creationist.
@killer1000701 well because creationism is a lie, you can date fossils by dating the rock in which they were, its is not an accident that we find simple life the oldest and more complex only after that, is god playing games with us, and who created him?
@killer1000701 we can see microorganism evolve and there have been experiments with lizards that changed completely in decades, let alone billions of years, bible is full of contraditions and genocides and evil messages, we know so much more now and all people should just forget about that garbage called the bible
@killer1000701 What the fuck are you talking about? They didn't kill in the name of Atheism. Nothing I've read from you has anything in it that is factual. Then I get toward the bottom and you claim Hitler and StaLin (learn who you're talking about) killed together in the name of Atheism? What are you, retarded or something? I'd love you shake your hand right now...
@killer1000701 What the fuck are you talking about? They didn't kill in the name of Atheism. Nothing I've read from you has anything in it that is factual. Then I get toward the bottom and you claim Hitler and StaLin (learn who you're talking about) killed together in the name of Atheism? What are you, retarded or something? I'd love you shake your hand right now...
@killer1000701 i mean like when god said that you shoul stone homosexuals to death, and when he said that those who dont believe in him should be stoned to death, no one killed in the name of atheism, hitler begins his book mein kampf by saying that he is doing gods work, all of his soldiers had to say that in they swer to god that they will serve him, i was not atheism, stalin was an atehist but he did not kill for it, bible is telling people how and who to kill, it is an evil book
I can only say, read the Bible and i can assure you nothing like you mention stated in the Bible, second the Jews lore is not our lore in that time, there is so many of them what happens in those day, the Bible tells also what happens story's like that.
Hitler is a Atheist not a Christian, the Bible never teach such madness like the Koran do.
Atheism are the believers of evolution, they always seek potential error in Bible without any success.
@killer1000701 are you going to just keep typing nonsence or look things up, i have read a big part of the bible and in it god kills little children and orders people to stone other people to death, i dont care if you dont want to want to believe in that it is what it is, and your homo friend should read those parts too
@killer1000701 I don't know whether he read "On the origin of species" but Darwin's theory (- then hypothesis) didn't say ANYTHING about natural selection on the basis of social, economic or moral standpoints.
Evolution, when it comes to mankind has stopped, because of the lack of natural selection or evolutionary pressure. Social-darwinism is a gross misrepresentation and interpretation of Darwin's theory. Furthermore there are no 'good
Did anyone else actually feel bad for him?
electricmaster23 47 minutes ago
Is this for real or is that australian an actor trying to make fun of creationists?
ChristofferCollin 1 hour ago
Dawkins is a no good coward who doesnt have the balls to debate William Lane Craige, he's a professional bully who can only bully people who are not on the level to deal with him, even other atheists are calling him a spineless coward for running from Craige.
masonwealth 3 hours ago
@killer1000701 Jackass, I gave you examples of it currently being observed in my first post. Also in fishes in multiple lakes in Africa.
MrBpigz 3 hours ago
@killer1000701 Wrong, wrong, wrong. Natural selection is not a chance system. Macroevolution is the result of microevo changes due to geographic separation.
MrBpigz 4 hours ago
@MrBpigz
You are really brainwashed.
Natural selection does only SELECT that's all, doesn't prove evolution.
Macro-evolution is one kind chance over time to another kind, thats only imagination never observe.
Micro-evolution is variation within the kind and it is observe.
Don't smuggle Macro-evolution in Micro-evolution and pretend it is the same, you mislead other people here just what you is happened.
Micro-evolution has its limits and Macro-evolution goes further in a fantasy.
killer1000701 4 hours ago
@killer1000701 macro evolution IS micro evolution you baboon. Saying micro evolution doesn't prove macro evolution is like saying your weekly paycheck doesn't count towards your annual income. Your ignorance is the seed of my hate.
mrcoldheart 2 hours ago
@mrcoldheart
Wow man, you are angry at me an insult me, why is that?
If you want keep me insulting i will ignore you next time, talk normal or get out of here.
Macro-evolution is smuggled in Micro-evolution theory in textbooks.
But there is a real different between Macro and Micro evolution.
I already explain that what the different are, you people just believe that is not, that;s why you in believe that the same is, but the fact is its total differences between Micro and Macro.
killer1000701 1 hour ago
people get over it THERE IS NO GOD!!! we all evolved from some sort of animal species.. i can prove it.. y do we have tonails.. u think god put them there so we can scratch our ankles. why do we have hair under our arms. y do we take shits. wouldnt god design us just to burn our food off rather then taking a nasty dump.. get over it people.. fkn brainwashed weirdos!
poker4080 4 hours ago
@poker4080
If we evolved, give some proof i ask all the time and no one give proof.
You have believe there is no God, so prove their is no God.
Evolutionist always had big mouth evolution is a fact, but when people ask for proof they don't show it. Talking about Mantra!!!!
killer1000701 4 hours ago
@killer1000701 actually, scientifically speaking evolution is only accepted in theory as is everything in science. bacteria mutate all the time, thats why they try to change the chemistry in flu shots every year. if you understood that evolution is just a simple genetic mutation in a gene that is literally instructions for proteins that make up a characteristic of an organism. and there's technically no proof or disproof of a god either
BLACKHATencrypted 2 hours ago
@BLACKHATencrypted
That why evolution must get rid out of science out of school and no fun from taxpayers, it's not science evolution just 'n religion just as creation is.
Both are science and can't proof that either. Only evolution is tax funded at school.
Evolution and creation has nothing to do with Biologic or science that's why at say the whole time.
Bacteria mutate in different bacterias, that's observe and proved but there is a limit, Micro-evolution is variation within the kind.
killer1000701 1 hour ago
@BLACKHATencrypted
I never said that about God has to do. I believe that God is there and create earth space and all in the mints. We are very complicated such a DNA is very complicated, it's designed with intelligence and if evolutionist believe it came from spontaneously it's their religion not mine and should take out of those schoolbooks.
Bacteria is not genetic, it's just a bacteria just unicellular nothing more.
It can not spontaneously give rise to life or earth and space with a bang.
killer1000701 1 hour ago
Politicians are the same the world over. Slimey little shits that refuse to answer questions.
MrAnthropophagy 6 hours ago
That guy lost as soon as richard took off his glasses...
mizzciciz 8 hours ago
this guy is really arrogant....
footballdannyful 11 hours ago
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I used to be an atheist myself, but I am a scientist, my message is based on current study and research, Read the given website in flesh: godsurety . org .Listen to the educated people. Mr dawkins has stopped studying, He wants to make MONEY out of low mentality mass, who hate the feeling of "somebody great" naturally "wired" in their brain. Otherwise, his "God Delusion" will be out of business even "God" has been proven Scientifically and it is > F.O.C, Update yourself : godsurety . org
Ordeal1000 14 hours ago
@Ordeal1000 Really? Where did you get your education?
SCROGY 6 hours ago
Judging by this guy intelligent humans could not have evolved from Australians !!
bermudarailway 15 hours ago
Its painful to watch this guy dodge the question. Just state what you believe unless of course hes beginning all of a sudden to realize how ridiculous this point of view is.
Clichyabarbes22 17 hours ago
Also anyone who is smarter than me who actually knows, which I'm sure many people are smarter than me of course. Doesn't the first rule of thermodynamics state an energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and that would mean that the Universe could not have just popped into existence from nothing or what. Hawking said the Universe could absolutely come from nothing, but doesn't that violate the rule above
vafleezers 20 hours ago
@vafleezers No it doesn't violate the first law. Energy can be created and destroyed at the quantum level, and the Universe just magically popping into existence out of nothing is actually what the creationists believe - not cosmologists.
parsivalshorse 18 hours ago
I believe in God. but I also believe the Earth is billions of years old and in evolution and all the scientific things discovered. I guess I am a Christian, but the bible isn't pure fact to me, sure a lot of it is stories and fables but I still believe in maybe a God for lack of a better term that keeps the Universal forces in check.
vafleezers 20 hours ago 2
@vafleezers Genesis gives you a clue that God could have created the conditions on earth that led to evolution. Where God created the animals it states the order he created them in: sea creatures, fish, reptiles, birds, mammals, primates, humans. This is essentially the same thing evolution says. So if you treat the bible and Genesis as it should be treated (as metaphor and not literal) the bible actually SUPPORTS evolution. It just says God created the conditions that set it in motion
SCROGY 20 hours ago
@SCROGY Wrong....Genesis is literal and states how every other theory should be treated...Genesis gives me a clue that the bible was written by men and presented to illiterate people.Evolution science.....Genesis is superstition.
10290gilmore 14 hours ago
@10290gilmore
Genesis 1 is written by God himself, there was no one :)
killer1000701 10 hours ago
@10290gilmore You have entirely missed my point. I am not saying I believe the bible literally. What I am saying is that the bible itself states that the animals were created, or evolved if you will, in the same order that evolution says. Therefore you can use this against the creationists.
SCROGY 6 hours ago
@10290gilmore I'd love to see how you can prove that Gensis is literal and not metaphorical. It's a belief that you cannot prove either way. It is men who mistakenly beleive that Genesis is literal. We know that all ancient religions were based on parables and "stories" if you will to explain things they did not understand. The bible itself is based on older religions, they simply changed to a one God theory of creation.
SCROGY 6 hours ago
The dude knows he's going to be pegged an idiot so he cowers and doesn't want to admit what he believes. Good on Dawkins to say: omg you're helping run a country.
shadowsheik8611 21 hours ago
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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SCIENCE SHOWS THE UNIVERSE could not have been active eternally because of entropy (energy decay, even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
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CREATIONISTS RIGHT ABOUT ENTROPY (Internet Article): Entropy occurs in both open and closed systems. In every transfer of energy some of the energy becomes useless. If universe is left to itself, all energy will become useless and the universe cannot sustain any activity. Even in an open system, there must first exist an energy-converting, directing mechanism to develop order, such as when a seed becomes a tree. Spontaneous order from chaos is not possible, not to any significant degree.
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator.
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How did species survive if their vital tissues, organs, reproductive systems were still evolving? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic and biological similarities between species.
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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GENETIC AND BIOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES are better explained due to a common Designer Who designed similar functions for similar purposes in the various forms of life. Genetic information can't happen by chance, so this is the best explanation. So-called junk DNA is not junk. These "non-coding" segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression (how, when, and where genes are expressed in the body). Read my Internet article WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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THIS WASN'T A DINOSAUR! Microraptor was a bird (that's why it had fully-formed feathers!), but evolutionists classified it as a dinosaur to fit their theory. All of its traits were fully-formed and developed (not in a transitional state, i.e. part scales/part feathers). Species in a true transitional, partially-evolved, state wouldn't be fit for survival. Read the excellent Internet article, "Is New Fossil A Bird-Eating Dinosaur?" by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas.
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select" traits, not produce them. If a trait survives, that survival is called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! This Internet article describes how evolutionary scientists are disagreeing over all the "evidence" traditionally used to support macro-evolution. I have given over a dozen lectures, including before evolution science faculty and students, refuting macro-evolution. At the end I would answer questions and arguments from the audience. The science faculty was mostly silent. They knew enough science to understand what I was saying was true.
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news concerning genetics, fossils, astronomy, etc. Just type your topic of interest in the "search" box on the site!
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EXPLAINING HOW AN AIRPLANE WORKS doesn't mean no one made the airplane. Explaining how life or the universe works doesn't mean there was no Maker behind them. Natural laws explain how the order in the universe works, but mere undirected natural laws can't explain the origin of that order. Once you have a complete, living cell then the genetic code/mechanisms exist to direct the formation of more cells, but how did the cell naturally originate when no directing code/mechanisms existed in nature?
Mogley52 21 hours ago
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AMINO ACIDS CAN COME BY CHANCE BUT NOT PROTEINS: Find out why. Read my Pravda Internet article: NASA, FANTASY, AND SCIENCE. Most (not all) scientists believe we're here by chance. That doesn't make the belief a scientific fact. Scientists are human and they have personal motives influencing their various beliefs concerning origins. Mathematical probability shows that it is not rational nor scientific to believe that DNA and life came about by chance. Study the evidence yourself!
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THE SCIENCE SUPPORTING CREATION (Google this title to access the site). The site presents a collage of evidences from science supporting creation and refutes arguments by evolutionists (i.e. "flaws" in design of human eye, "junk" DNA, embryonic recapitulation, age of the earth, fossils, origin of life, etc.). Also, read my Internet article ANY LIFE ON MARS CAME FROM EARTH. In the Earth's past, powerful volcanic activity spewed life-containing dirt into space very possibly reaching Mars.
Mogley52 21 hours ago
---> 4 not to mention there is no logical explaination why intelligence and ability to speak evolved only in one specie, and why did it evolve at all in the first place. To survive in wilderness you need fast legs and sharp claws, or even faster legs to run away from those with sharp claws. And what about feelings? They stand in the way instead of help. If evolution was true we would be ruthless killing machines... well we kind are :) but we still can't kill any animal of our size unarmed.
Golemoid 22 hours ago
---> 3 as i said, if you look at all animals of one specie, there are no significant diffirences. So how can there be evolution? The other factor is rapid changes of envitorment, e.g. climatte changes and only more resilient species would survive. But that only explains genoicide of entire species (dinosaurs), not evolution. And even if, it would be very small and one time diffirence, and not a morphological one for sure. ---> 4
Golemoid 22 hours ago
---> 2 Its either gives a real advantage, or its something that doesn't matter at all. Example: a monkey is born with wings, it has easier access to bananas and can flee from predators easier, that means higher chances of survival. If 2 of his 4 spawns will also have wings, those 2 with wings will have higher chances to survive than the other 2, so after few generations there would be hundreds of flying monkeys in that population. The problem is IT DOESN'T HAPPEN! ---> 3
Golemoid 22 hours ago
simple evidence against evolution: it says that there are very minor diffirences between animals in one specie, so small they are not noticeable even in thousands of years. It says that animals with beneficial ones will have higher chances of survival (thats logical), so after many years of natural selection, the population of that specie will be altered (thats also logical). the problem is, if those diffirences are so small we can't even notice them, then how the fuck can they matter? ---> 2
Golemoid 22 hours ago
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@gorilla199uncensored
You always say that that i deluded with my stupid religion with full of hate, i don't blame you for that.
You believe what you are and that's is evolution the way it looks how disrespectful you are against other people with another opinion or theory.
I blame the evolutionist teachers for that.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@allieron
Boy, i know that evolutionist hate Kent and do everything bad talk about him and ignore those facts to keep talk about him.
Give me proof for evolution boy, we already know that people like you (atheist) hate people like me or Kent Hovind get to topic not to the person boy it gets really boring.
So, give me your best evidence for evolution? don't chance from other subject what you people always do in order to ignore those arguments.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@fire112germany
Yes i read you post and is more about me than your explain it.
You have nothing arguments about prove for evolution.
Some other fellow like you claim that Macro-evolution is Micro-evolution witch is not true and i explain it to him and you ignore those post like most evolutionist (Atheist)
So, are you give me proof for evolution or not?
If mis some thing, than post it again for me.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@allieron
Boy, keep on-topic please not about me.
Give me proof for evolution, is this so difficult to ask?
All you guy evolutionist are do is bashing creationist because you don't have single argument about evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@fire112germany
Now i understand, you are a Kent Hovind hater, that's why you talk trash about me.
Well, point was i mention Kent Hovind because Dawkings refuse a debate with him that's why i bring him in the picture because he know he has no chance to win the debate with Kent :)
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@fire112germany
Boy, you are not discuss about the topic but more about me, man give me some prove for evolution stop talking trash about me.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@fire112germany
Boy, i claim no victory people like do that, if i read your post it's 100% about me no about evolution to prove about it, so who is trolling now you or me?
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@fire112germany
Can we talk about the topic pleas, i know you want avoid that because you cant give some proof of evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@fire112germany
How many evolutionist come here?
What must i admit? Give me some proof of evolution, not just a good book :)
You talk to much about me and not about proof of evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@fire112germany
Yes i know, here we go again you have no arguments en is angry at me, a typical evolutionist.
Can you explain, then only grumble about me?
Again, give me some proof for evolution boy don't get angry at me.
People like you have always a big mouth that Evolution is real, don't get frustrated about me boy.
What is Nonsense?
What is my so-called ignorance of basic science?
What statement make no sense?
Boy, give me arguments not just complain about me.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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@ArgieGamer
Why do evolutionist always angry with bad attitude against me?
Why are you so full of hate if i reject evolution with arguments?
Why don't give people like you strong arguments instead bashing like children?
I don't read about the topic?
I think you just get angry because you cannot do anything to give some of evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
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This is the story of a tiny little leech living inside the intestines of an atheist, who stood up on his tiny little soap box and announced to all the other leeches, that there is no such thing as a human being. And furthermore, it is not up to this tiny little leech to prove his blind faith assumed position, it is up to the other leeches claiming there is a human to prove there is one or else, there is no human being. ATHEISM=OBVIOUS LIE; no human could possibly remotely know there is no God
richardaberdeen 1 day ago
Steve Fielding is so full of crap it's leaking out of his ears.
SCROGY 1 day ago
This is priceless. Thanks for sharing this vid.
thedeeliciousplum 1 day ago
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@xliver4
I never call you stupid, if you don't know between micro-evolution and Macro-evolution is than you are really brainwashed to believe in it because you are brainwashed by those evolutionist.
You are blind, mice-evolution has nothing to do with Macro-evolution,
You don't even know what Macro-evolution is.
Macro evolution is one kind chance over time to another kind.
Micro-evolution is variations within the kind.
You really brainwashed by evolutionist teachers.
killer1000701 1 day ago
I wonder did the YEC knew if he believed the earth was 10,000 years old. he didnt seem to want to answer because he just didnt know..... he knew he thought, ah feck this modern science, god dun it!
ChrisHayesArt 1 day ago
BUTT FUCKED!
Cornbreadddd 1 day ago
@killer1000701 For the last time, you clearly have no idea what a vestigial organ is, let alone a chromosome. I never said it was created by evolution to begin with. People are born without them and live just fine even after getting them removed, they're not necessary.
MrBpigz 1 day ago
@MrBpigz
You have no idea what it is and what it does, it has nothing to do with evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@Xezukaful I gave up man. There's no hope.
MrBpigz 1 day ago
@MrBpigz It's just not worth it lol
Xezukaful 19 hours ago
Haha poor fella, he did notice at that time, how stupid he was. Creationism is a mithology childish story.
ArgieGamer 1 day ago
@ArgieGamer
To believe that we all came from a rock :):)
Look dear evolutionist, give some fact about evolution not childish behavior.
Give some arguments about evolution, no one of yours give them only basing creationism nothing more than that, be proud.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Read books, Im not here to educate your puny life.
ArgieGamer 1 day ago
@ArgieGamer
Why do evolutionist always angry with bad attitude against me?
Why are you so full of hate if i reject evolution with arguments?
Why don't give people like you strong arguments instead bashing like children?
I don't read about the topic?
I think you just get angry because you cannot do anything to give some of evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 The bad attitude comes from your ignorance of basic science but claiming something about arguments you presumebly made. No one hates you. You demand arguments but you are not willing to inform yourself about that topic. Maybe you read about it but you obviously have the wrong sources. Try scientific ones. You know, from the people who are experts on that field. Your last statement makes no sense at all. again: talkorigins org and google scholar can help you.
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany
Yes i know, here we go again you have no arguments en is angry at me, a typical evolutionist.
Can you explain, then only grumble about me?
Again, give me some proof for evolution boy don't get angry at me.
People like you have always a big mouth that Evolution is real, don't get frustrated about me boy.
What is Nonsense?
What is my so-called ignorance of basic science?
What statement make no sense?
Boy, give me arguments not just complain about me.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Didn't you read my posts? I gave you two very specific sources. Read it, understand it. That helps a lot.
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany
Yes i read you post and is more about me than your explain it.
You have nothing arguments about prove for evolution.
Some other fellow like you claim that Macro-evolution is Micro-evolution witch is not true and i explain it to him and you ignore those post like most evolutionist (Atheist)
So, are you give me proof for evolution or not?
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 You call people "boy" you don't know and ask them "not to be mad"? Are you behaving this way in real life, too?
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany
Can we talk about the topic pleas, i know you want avoid that because you cant give some proof of evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Even Dawkins' "The greatest show on earth" is a great book about evolution. It is easy to read and gives you tons of examples. I personally don't agree with Dawkins on lots of points but his books are not bad. And if you should admid: It is very hard to get into a complex scientific topic in a youtube discussion.
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany
How many evolutionist come here?
What must i admit? Give me some proof of evolution, not just a good book :)
You talk to much about me and not about proof of evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Wow. You are obviously not able to use the sources. The links I gave you are not books. (except the recommendation of TGSOE) If you are not willing to read it by yourself I don't see any chance to educate you. Go away and troll somewhere else. (I rest my case about the chess with pigeons)
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany
Boy, you are not discuss about the topic but more about me, man give me some prove for evolution stop talking trash about me.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 You want evidence? Well every living thing has a parent. Second point, is that some living creatures are very different from some others, so this must mean changes are happening? Last point, if creationism is right, there should be no dinosaur bones? Yet we find dinosaur bones all the time around the world!
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allieron 1 day ago
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@killer1000701 You sit before the greatest database of all Human knowledge, containing 13.5 billion years of accumulated knowledge, all at your fingertips.
If you STILL think (lol...) that evolution has no proof or evidence, then you're without ANY doubt a complete moron, or you have no ability in using even a simple search-engine.
Take ALL of your silly, childish Creationist arguments to "Talk-Origins" org, and watch your ignorance washed away like sin in the river Jordan.
No more excuses.
allieron 1 day ago
@allieron
Boy, keep on-topic please not about me.
Give me proof for evolution, is this so difficult te ask?
All you guy evolutionist are do is bashing creationist because you don't have single argument about evolution.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Off the top of my head life itself, you, every fossil ever found, every creature that ever lived, DNA, RNA, and Medicine are proof of evolution.
xynth101088 1 day ago
@xynth101088
No proof, it's just bones in the dirt nothing more.
Medicine are proof for evolution, are you kidding me? Give some proof what is :) you are desperate.
DNA proof evolution, wow!!!! How is DNA arise?
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Bones from creatures that evolved...
New vaccines and cures every year because the virus' and such evolve and are not effected by the old ones anymore. IE the Flu.
DNA evolved from RNA, RNA came from simpler strands, and before that it's all abiogenesis which is not evolution and is not a complete theory yet but is being worked on, because like evolution, this shit takes time.
And you clearly have the internet, why not use it for something useful instead of trolling youtube?
xynth101088 23 hours ago
@xynth101088
Bones from, creatures that evolved,You can see bones in the dirt proof evolution?
What kind to a another kind of animal is evolved from the bones in the dirt ?
New vaccines, that has nothing to do with evolution. If you live and eat healthy, then you do not need medication. Second what is evolution i think you don't know what it is.
DNA is evolved from RNA? are you kidding you believe that unproven garbage?
How is RNA arise? i just ask it.
killer1000701 23 hours ago
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@killer1000701
Wont even say if the buybull is correct? LOL WHY NOT (YOU KNWO IT ISNT)
Evolution is a fact it is proven by the Scientific Theory of Evolution.
WIKI EVOLUTION or go to talkorigins
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
Is why you deny evolution, but dont deny geology, medicine and astronomy WHICH THE BIBLE SAYS IS WRONG!
gorilla199uncensored 23 hours ago
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@killer1000701 "What kind to a another kind of animal is evolved from the bones in the dirt ?" My what a little troll you are. or I hope you are trolling because it's a scary thought to think that someone could be stupid enough to actually think that anyone believes bones evolve into animals. Get fucking real man. However if you are this stupid get someone to help you use the internet for something useful and learn a thing or 2 about evolution. It's really not that that.
xynth101088 9 hours ago
@killer1000701 And, wait... Didn't you bring up Kent Hovind at some point? I am not quite sure. Someone who does that disqualifies himself so badly from any serious discussion, that it hurts.
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany
Now i understand, you are a Kent Hovind hater, that's why you talk trash about me.
Well, point was i mention Kent Hovind because Dawkings refuse a debate with him that's why i bring him in the picture because he know he has no chance to win the debate with Kent :)
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Hovind is a shyster, a criminal, a fraud and a very, very sly huckster relying on the gullible, ignorant and stupid. The richer you are, the poorer you'll be.
This is why he's currently servicing Bubba in prison, biting pillows and praising Jeebuz with great praise.
Dawkings debating Hovind is like a hungry king lion contemplating a hobbled, blind antelope.
Intellect and vast wisdom over superstitious mumbo and criminal manipulation.
Hear us roar.
allieron 1 day ago
@allieron
Boy, i know that evolutionist hate Kent and do everything bad talk about him and ignore those facts to keep talk about him.
Give me proof for evolution boy, we already know that people like you (atheist) hate people like me or Kent Hovind get to topic not to the person boy it gets really boring.
So, give me your best evidence for evolution? don't chance from other subject what you people always do in order to ignore those arguments.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 You know what we really dislike ? Deliberate ignorance in the information age. You have NO reason for being the drooling ignorant retard you are. If you deny evolution and the simple fact that 99.99999999% of ALL scientists and educated people understand its absolute veracity, then you are a willful moron.
Kent is a criminal who robs morons. That is why he's Bubba's bitch inside Pokey.
allieron 12 hours ago
@allieron
Why call you me a ignorant retard, that's not nice from you.
Give me proof for evolution boy, don't call me a retard if don't have answers.
Talk about evolution not about Kent you really desperate.
Educating destroy the Christian faith boy with evolution smuggle in the textbooks.
You said Kent is criminal, his gifts what he get from other people who support him ministry? You really don't understand between tax supported systems that teach evolution and non tax supported what Kent do.
killer1000701 10 hours ago
@killer1000701 Calling you an ignorant moron is not an insult, it's a perfectly valid and apt descrition of you? You have NO reason for being so ignorant, and Bent Hovind is STILL a shyster and criminal, as well as being a fraud, a thief and a despicable huckster preying on the gullible and stupid.
Education destroys ALL religion, because silliness and superstition mixes badly with wisdom and knowledge
allieron 10 hours ago
@allieron
Why are you so full of hate of me? What do i wrong to you?
I have no single way you discredit what you did with me, if you loose discussion you always get out of the topic, be on-topic please.
What is your best evidences for evolution boy?
killer1000701 10 hours ago
@killer1000701 I don't hate you. I pity you. I hate your deliberate ignorance, though. That's hugely offensive in this day and age.
You have NO excuse for being the idiot you are. It's deliberate, because this IS the Information Age.
Go to TalkOrigins and crush your Creationist ignorance and stupidity.
The evidence for evolution is more than that for gravity. If you STILL deny evolution, then just float the fuck away. This planet doesn't need more retards.
allieron 9 hours ago
@killer1000701 I don't hate Hovind. I just think he is a dishonest idiot with no clue about science. That's all. But that's my last response. @ArgieGamer You are right.
fire112germany 1 day ago
@killer1000701
LOL I have provided you with evidence for evolution before. Your denial is just stupid (like your religion)
READ A BOOK not a childrens story book (the buybull)
ITs your primative story book thats humans where made of dirt by a god who was beaten by chariots not science!
gorilla199uncensored 1 day ago
@gorilla199uncensored
You always say that that i deluded with my stupid religion with full of hate, i don't blame you for that.
You believe what you are and that's is evolution the way it looks how disrespectful you are against other people with another opinion or theory.
I blame the evolutionist teachers for that.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701
"disrespectful you are against other people with another opinion or theory"
NOT THEORY
People with a baseless belief (because of a primative bronze aged story book) that denys the massibve amounts of evidence DO NOT DESERVE RESPECT!
So tell me do you go to
Medical videos and claim demons cause illness?
Geological videos and say the earth sits on pillars?
Astrological videos and claim the earth doesnt move?
FROM YOUR BUYBULL!
You dont you defend the buybull? LOL
gorilla199uncensored 1 day ago
@gorilla199uncensored
Boy, we talking about proof for evolution not about the Bible what you Don't understand.
I know that all Atheist hard to try seek errors in the Bible to avid the discussion about evolution vs creation.
So, when give you some prove for evolution?
killer1000701 23 hours ago
@killer1000701
" not about the Bible "
Wont even say if the buybull is correct? LOL WHY NOT (YOU KNWO IT ISNT)
Evolution is a fact it is proven by the Scientific Theory of Evolution.
WIKI EVOLUTION or go to talkorigins
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
Is why you deny evolution, but dont deny geology, medicine and astronomy WHICH THE BIBLE SAYS IS WRONG!
gorilla199uncensored 23 hours ago
@gorilla199uncensored
Evolution is a fact, what is a fact? i don't read what fact is.
I deny evolution because it is never proven let alone it's a fairy tale for adults.
Second, i never see a ape evolve to Human i real;ly want see that.
I never see a dog evolve to a cat.
And about astronomy, give me some proof of that?
The Bible is a another discussion.
killer1000701 23 hours ago
@killer1000701 Evolution and Astronomy are fairy tales for adults?!
You're one of those people that's too stupid to educate.
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@gorilla199uncensored
Evolution is a fact, what is a fact? i don't read what fact is.
I deny evolution because it is never proven let alone it's a fairy tale for adults.
Second, i never see a ape evolve to Human i real;ly want see that.
I never see a dog evolve to a cat.
And about astronomy, give me some proof of that?
The Bible is a another discussion.
killer1000701 23 hours ago
Fuck America, get me out of here!!!
TheJFKassassin 1 day ago
@TheJFKassassin You're welcome to move to Iran, India, Russia, France, Holland, Britain, Brasil etc. Lots of great options for freedom, peace and liberty.
SCROGY 1 day ago
@TheJFKassassin You are aware that this is australia, aren't you?
fire112germany 1 day ago
u cant reason with the insane
Ladiciuston 1 day ago
"anyone who's seen the evidence knows that evolution is a fact."
That's incredibly presumptuous and deliberately stupid. Most people who seriously examine the evidence find that evolution is impossible. I say this after putting out the call for several months for people who have examined the evidence and switched from creation to evolution. No one has been able to produce one.
Orenotter 1 day ago
@Orenotter I'm one :^|
QHJFRD 1 day ago
@Orenotter Thats funny. "Most people" "serious examine". How come that 99% scientists and practically 100% of biologists (the people whose profession it is to examine the evidence) have absolutely no problem with evolution as a natural phenomenon in general and the "Theory of Evolution" in particular?
fire112germany 1 day ago
@Orenotter
"Most people who seriously examine the evidence find that evolution is impossible."
LOL Sorry thats not what the scientists who are experts in the field say.
But lets just pretend we have no idea (like a creatard)
You dont get to beg the question (let alone slip in your prefered imaginary god as the answer)
Theres a reason evolution is a scientific theory and accepted by every great university in the world and theres only a basless belief in your god.
gorilla199uncensored 1 day ago
@gorilla199uncensored
You again, always big talk and rude nothing else to argue with it.
Silly boy you are.
I still waiting for prove, give me one big shot for proof for evolution, don't get angry at us because you never find it.
Science has nothing to do with Evolution the same as creationism. Because both are religions and creation is far more on par with science.
You believe you (evolutionists) came from dirt and we (creation) believe God made us.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@Orenotter "Most people who seriously examine the evidence find that evolution is impossible" Notice Dawkins said 'seriously' examine the evidence, virtually all Christian scientists; in fields ranging from Biology and Ecology to Geology and Archaeology, understand that evolution is the mechanism of speciation. The majority of Americans are creationists, because the majority of Americans don't even have middle school curriculum level competence, when it comes to evolutionary theory.
RebelWrestler45 1 day ago
@killer1000701 You truly are incompetent and it's impossible to have a real conversation with someone like you. I gave you more than enough solid evidence in my first post. Instead of looking at pictures, actually read.
MrBpigz 2 days ago
@MrBpigz
You give nothing, you ask me for fossil for human, i gave you picture and even a link ware you can see that what you ask for. Further more i disprove your so called evidence.
Don't get frustrated and give the blame to me boy.
What is your evidence for evolution than, give it let see that.
What is your solid evidence?
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 Are you fucking serious? I hope your trolling, especially after calling him "boy." You can fucking observe evolution occurring in bacteria. YOU CAN OBSERVE IT.
xliver4 2 days ago
@xliver4
You are so blind, i already wrote that boy.
Furthermore, Micro-evolution is the only what is observe not Macro-evolution what you are trying to in it. Dog/Wolf and Coyote are one Kind but variation within the Kind is Micro-evolution.
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 You call me blind? You're just stupid. Macro-evolution is just micro-evolution over many generations along with genetic isolation. You have no idea how blind you are, boy.
xliver4 2 days ago
@xliver4 I don't think it is possible to have a discussion with someone who isn't willing to hear arguments. Killer1000701 is obviously one of the many crationist-trolls who prove the following citation to be true:
"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany
Boy, i claim no victory people like do that, if i read your post it's 100% about me no about evolution to prove about it, so who is trolling now you or me?
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 So you deny that I (and several other people) provided you answers and/or sources to get the answers? Do you really expect people to present you the ultimate proof of a complete field of science on a salver (within ~300 letters)? Are you really that ignorant? One question: What is your profession? I would like to know where you can work with that mindset.
fire112germany 1 day ago
@fire112germany Fire, do not bother, you can not reason with insanity. Let him be. Maybe he is trolling.
ArgieGamer 1 day ago
@xliver4
I never call you stupid, if you don't know between micro-evolution and Macro-evolution is than you are really brainwashed to believe in it because you are brainwashed by those evolutionist.
You are blind, mice-evolution has nothing to do with Macro-evolution,
You don't even know what Macro-evolution is.
Macro evolution is one kind chance over time to another kind.
Micro-evolution is variations within the kind.
You really brainwashed by evolutionist teachers.
killer1000701 1 day ago
@killer1000701 Ok maybe you're not stupid, but you're definately ignorant if that's what you don't see how micro and macro evolution is linked. And yes, that is the definition of macro evolution. It is microevolution that occurs over many generations to the point where there is a major difference creating a new species. It's really not that hard to understand if you would just take a second to think.
xliver4 15 hours ago
@xliver4
No Macro-evolution is chance from kind to a another kind in over time.
Micro-evolution is variations within the Kind.
You really have study about it what the differed is between micro-evolution and Macro-evolution.
"Micro evolutionary is the changes in allele frequencies that occur over time within a population"
"Macro evolutionary studies focus on change that occurs at or above the level of species"
They try put Macro-evolution in Micro-evolution to secure evolution religion .
killer1000701 10 hours ago
@killer1000701 What you don't realize is that macro-evolution is a result of micro-evolution. Micro-evolution occurs within the species. Next add in the species being geographically isolated (we'll call it area 1 and 2), and continue micro-evolution in the species from area 1 and 2. 100 years later take the species from area one and from area two and set them side by side. They are no longer the same. They can't reproduce together. The sum of long periods of microevolution is macroevolution.
xliver4 3 hours ago
@xliver4
How many times have i to explain you the different?
consciously pretend you know and then consciously work against when you know what it is.
It's hard to discuss with people like you express know and yet ignore because evolution mus be present for your own sake.
Micro-evolution is not Macro-evolution, they smuggling in it the textbook in for people like you to believe in it.
killer1000701 1 hour ago
@MrBpigz
I was a little confuse with some other :)
You believe that Vestigial organ made by evolution, i already give some link with a photo how it looks it is a part of our immune system without it we will quick get ill without this.
Than you talk about chromosomes, you are a joke really sorry for that.
killer1000701 2 days ago
Why cant it be simple?
Q: Do you think the earth is 10,000 yrs old?
A: I do not know and I do not care. It does not really matter to me and my decisions.
Q: Do you believe in evolution?
A: What are the immediate benefits? I do not know and I do not care.
Why is there an onus on everyone to answer this question as a yes or no?!
MarthamadaySaamanu 2 days ago
The Young Earth Creationist Politician has indeed no insight as a creationist, he is a easy victim for Dawkings that for sure, Dawkings always choose easy victims.
That's why he refuse a debate with Kent Hovind who know what he talking about.
He also refuse a debate with William Lane Craig, what a such arrogant he is Dawkings.
He take only simple targets nothing more, it is so pitiful talking about disgrace.
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 why would he debate craig, he has no proof for a god, he can just talk, we have compoarative anatomy, mlecular biology, vestigal organs, all the fossils in the right places and in the right time, if you want to disprove evolution, find a foosil of a human that is billions of years old, until then you can just talk
RedStarBelgradefan 2 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan
That's not a point, Dawking believe their is no God so his religion is a world without a God.
I already have explain about vestigal organs, it has no proof for evolution.
Boy, a fossil is just bones in the dirt, nothing more think about it.
You cant see it has kids or chance in other form like that.
Human fossil, wait i give you one. i cannot send links or photos for some reason.
I send it to you PM
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 it is not a religion, it is a disbelief, show him evidence for a god and he will change, you have send me a pictures of giant sceletons, what does that have to do with evolution? and fossils are all in the right places and in the right time, if the bible was true we would find humans and dinosaurs and single cell prehistoric animals all together ALL THE TIME, we never find that, evolution is a fact
RedStarBelgradefan 2 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan
You want proof i gave you Human fossil nothing more, just what i said.
Fossil are just a bones in a dirt, there is no single way they can know how old they are.
The Bible is very present of Giants.
Dawking is die-hard evolutionist and he want to proof their is no God, so he believe their is no God i believe there is a God, look all that complex things or live we see.
Both are religions, that's my point. most people here are so hate full against creationist.
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 well because creationism is a lie, you can date fossils by dating the rock in which they were, its is not an accident that we find simple life the oldest and more complex only after that, is god playing games with us, and who created him?
RedStarBelgradefan 2 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan
Yes we can date fossils what match to the geologic column what they always do.
But think about it, fossils are just bones in dirt nothing more.
I wont fool by those people what they believe in evolution, point is neither evolution and creation can't be proved.
We don't see plants/animal or human evolve and we cant see created from nothing like God did according to Genesis 1 and 2 (The garden of Eden)
But i believe God created all in 6 days what the Bible said.
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 we can see microorganism evolve and there have been experiments with lizards that changed completely in decades, let alone billions of years, bible is full of contraditions and genocides and evil messages, we know so much more now and all people should just forget about that garbage called the bible
RedStarBelgradefan 2 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan
For you is it garbage, for me it the word of God :) Thats your opinion.
What is according to that the Bible is garbage, is it blind full hate of something else you don't like it?
Give those contradictions, not just blabbing.
Genocide, you mean that God order to kill all those people in (promise land) who has wicked and sick and ignore Gods lore?
That's a decision from God not for us, if you don't understand it than you must really study about it not just random blabbing
killer1000701 2 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan
Second: Hitler and Jozef stallin killing together 100 Million people in the name of Atheisms (evolution or Humanisms)
Let alone the other people like who kills million of Indians in the VS in the name of Atheism.
killer1000701 2 days ago
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@killer1000701 Hitler was a devout Christian!
He got baptized, was even an altar boy.
He was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by the church and there are dozens of refrerences towards God and his faith in "Mein Kampf".
ShinjukuHH 2 days ago
@killer1000701 What the fuck are you talking about? They didn't kill in the name of Atheism. Nothing I've read from you has anything in it that is factual. Then I get toward the bottom and you claim Hitler and StaLin (learn who you're talking about) killed together in the name of Atheism? What are you, retarded or something? I'd love you shake your hand right now...
Xezukaful 2 days ago
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@killer1000701 What the fuck are you talking about? They didn't kill in the name of Atheism. Nothing I've read from you has anything in it that is factual. Then I get toward the bottom and you claim Hitler and StaLin (learn who you're talking about) killed together in the name of Atheism? What are you, retarded or something? I'd love you shake your hand right now...
Xezukaful 2 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan
Yes Micro-evolution is a fact but limit, it called variation within the kind.
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 i mean like when god said that you shoul stone homosexuals to death, and when he said that those who dont believe in him should be stoned to death, no one killed in the name of atheism, hitler begins his book mein kampf by saying that he is doing gods work, all of his soldiers had to say that in they swer to god that they will serve him, i was not atheism, stalin was an atehist but he did not kill for it, bible is telling people how and who to kill, it is an evil book
RedStarBelgradefan 2 days ago
@RedStarBelgradefan
You really believe that?
I can only say, read the Bible and i can assure you nothing like you mention stated in the Bible, second the Jews lore is not our lore in that time, there is so many of them what happens in those day, the Bible tells also what happens story's like that.
Hitler is a Atheist not a Christian, the Bible never teach such madness like the Koran do.
Atheism are the believers of evolution, they always seek potential error in Bible without any success.
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 are you going to just keep typing nonsence or look things up, i have read a big part of the bible and in it god kills little children and orders people to stone other people to death, i dont care if you dont want to want to believe in that it is what it is, and your homo friend should read those parts too
RedStarBelgradefan 2 days ago
@killer1000701 Hitler was a devout Christian!
He got baptized, was even an altar boy.
He was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by the church and there are dozens of refrerences towards God and his faith in "Mein Kampf".
BTW: Biggest error in the Bible: The Earth is flat
ShinjukuHH 2 days ago
@ShinjukuHH
Yes that's true, until he read about Darwins evolution theory.
So did Jozef Stallin read evolution.
killer1000701 2 days ago
@killer1000701 I don't know whether he read "On the origin of species" but Darwin's theory (- then hypothesis) didn't say ANYTHING about natural selection on the basis of social, economic or moral standpoints.
Evolution, when it comes to mankind has stopped, because of the lack of natural selection or evolutionary pressure. Social-darwinism is a gross misrepresentation and interpretation of Darwin's theory. Furthermore there are no 'good