My dear sister just want to say a big thank you for putting this vedio out on utube. It's a shame that most of our brothers and sisters are following man made laws and still blind of Allah's command\law.
haha i guess you black people will never get it...praying and believing the same bullshit that was forced upon during slavery.....FUCK ALL RELIGION even islam....all you niggas have a computers anfd know the truth but all yall wanna do is make your beleif even stronger in you opresser god lmao....smh..
@MrZP20 The ignorance comes from those who put their trust in hearsay like you do. Allah protected the Quran because He didnt trust man to record and maintain the truth but you trust that man recorded and maintained the truth with hadith so I suppose you know more than Allah. The Book of Allah is perfect and complete and we need nothing else. Prophet Muhammad said he followed only revelation (10:15) and he was a good example to follow, so I do as he did and follow only revelation.
it's all PRACTICAL ACTIONS NOT ABOUT WRITING OR BOOKS AND IT IS ALL PROTECTED THROW TIME BY ALLAH THOSE WHO FOLLOWED PROPHET AND THOSE WHO LATER AND SO ON.
@MrZP20 you should follow you own advice. "please dont assume or predict or produce a lie with ur ignorance if you are NOT 100% sure of it.". I will say to you that yo cannot prove that the Hadith was actually stated by the Prophet. Allah Clearly gave us a truthful word. "If you follow the majority of them............................."
It was Allah's and the Prophet's PBUH will for us to know the Sunnah! Which means the authentic ones are still out there! And they are if u really knew about the manuscripts!
My dear sister, no way i want to offend u. If I am being ignorant, i ask Allah to forgive me.
But Please do not do this mistake. U may love Allah and His Prophet PBUH, but by saying such things its very clear that u r against Allah's words in the Quran.
I love ur courage, but i cant appreciate if u r harming islam. :)
@MrZP20 5:99 and 16:82 both say that the Prophet's duty was only to deliver or preach the message and 75:19 says that it was on Allah Himself, to explain it which is consistent with 6:114, 7:52, 11:1, 17:12, and 41:3 that all say that Allah sent down His Book explained in detail. U keep calling hadiths the words of the Prophet as though you can prove it. Your relying on man made words, man made manuscripts which mean ur relying on hearsay! Point blank, PERIOD. And since you believe in hadiths
@humblservant Its funny.U r assuming this totally,just like u assumed the hadiths to be completely man-made.
I live my life according to the Quran and whatever prophet did under the Quranic teaching. this is the message of Allah in the quran. Im sure u know it.
2nd, if someone does good deed, i.e. help others, love children, if someone abuse u, u dont abuse him back etc...these r good teachings of the Prophets.
I dont see any harm in following these good teachings.
@MrZP20 other than Allah and His Ayah, then you fall into the group that Allah addresses when He says (45:06) "These are the Ayah of Allah, which we recite to you with truth. Then in which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will they believe?" U think ur above admonishment? You believe in hadiths other than Allah and His Ayah, so He's talking to you! If you choose to keep following man made narrations in hopes that they are actually from the Prophet, be my guest but for me and mine we will continue
@humblservant Certainly i do blv in Allah's ayat and u dont. "And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad) the Zhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur'an)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought." [16:44]
"There has certainly been for you[Muslims] in the Messenger of Allah an USWATUN HASANATUN [Good pattern,Beautiful Example,Supreme Model] for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often."[33:21]
@MrZP20 to follow the Book of Allah like we're told to do in 6;155. And in 7:2&3, Allah tells Prophet Muhammad to remind the believers to follow revelation. And lets not forget 10:35 where Allah says {Say:"Is there of your partners one that guides to the truth?" Say: "It is Allah who guides to the truth. Is then He who gives guidance to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who finds not guidance unless he, himself is guided? Then what is the matter with you? How judge you?"
@MrZP20 (10:36) {And most of them follow nothing but conjecture. Certainly, conjecture can be of no avail against the truth. Surely Allah is all aware of what they do.} I'm done disputing with you MrZP20. Ur obviously so far gone that not even proof from Allah's Words will make you see the truth. And whomever Allah (SWT) sends astray, surely there is none to guide.I'll pray that Allah guides you to a Straight Way. Time to make better use of my time. Salaams
@humbleservant I follow the Quran. I worship Allah in the way prophet Muhammad had shown (as per Allah's permission).
Allah says in 16.44 to Muhammad PBUH to explain the Quran to us. Thats what Muhammad PBUH did and so we follow what He told us regarding Quran.
We use authentic hadiths.Muhammad PBUH said: "If ever you hear of something I have said as contradicting Allah's words in the Qu'ran, then that statement is not of me [i.e. it is a fabrication]."
I have sent u an essay summarising the history on collection of hadiths and rejection of hadiths.
Do read it please.
May Allah grant us understand and acceptance of the truth.
" And We [God] have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) the Zhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur'an)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought." [16:44]
@humbleservant reply1 cont: Here Allah is saying that 1 of the main purposes of the Prophet Muhammad [saas] being sent is to explain the Qu'ran.If the Prophet's [saas] explanations have been lost or are fabricated, then the only reasonable conclusion would be that Allah [swt] and the Prophet [saas] both failed in their objectives, and we seek refuge in Allah [swt] from such blasphemy.
Do u realise that U R TALKING AGAINST ALLAH?
IF YOU REALLY HAVE FREE WILL TO THINK, then prioritize this 1st.
@humbleservant reply 1: the Qu'ran explains the Prophet Muhammad's [saas] role as follows: " And We [God] have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) the Zhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur'an)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought." [16:44]
"O mankind! Verily, there has come to you the Messenger (Muhammad) with the truth from your Rabb (Sustainer). So believe in him, it is better for you. But if you disbelieve, then certainly to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. And Allâh is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise." (Qurân 4: 170)
"He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad) has indeed obeyed Allâh, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (Muhammad) as a watcher over them." (Qurân 4: 80)
"O you who believe! Obey Allâh, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad) and render not vain your deeds." (Qurân 47: 33)
Allah inspired Muhammad Pbuh in His dream to marry Aysha RA.Prophet was old & Allah knew that His time was running out.By marrying Aysha (9yrs) wud mean that evn aftr Passing away of Prophet,Aysha wud be young & can spread Islam,the SUNNAH for so long to mankind!Clearly,ALLAH DID WANT US TO BELIEVE IN AYSHA,hence Allah inspired the Prophet in His dream.We today follow the hadiths that were taken from Aysha RA.
whats your problem if an hadith is oppsion a quran aya its not correct every sholar will tell you that its a reason for it why we are called SUNNis!!! Watch this watch?v=qV7UO4xJ7zU !!! I think you have Problem whit Wahabis they use many Hadith to comfirm their sect! Plz study some Fiqh Systematic of the 4 Madhabs and how they where made and most imprtant WHY! Dont let them Wahabis get you.
Its not that simple sister! You need to know arabic lingustika and even studying the Quran whit all that to understand that Quran comes first and Hadith comes after that.
@PunisherLobo WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER A BOOK OF HERSAY AND LIES AS A NUMBER 2 RESOURCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. DO NOT FORGET THAT THE HADITH HAS BEEN DESIGN TO MISLEAD NOT GUIDE SO WHY REFER TO THAT DEGENERATE SOURCE ANYWAY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT ALLAH HAS CALLED THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN THE HADITH? GO LOOK IT UP.
Following good deeds is never wrong. As Prophet PBUH said to us to reject the statements which contradict quranic verses and that these r not his statement (i.e. fabricated), we simply ignore them.
We follow certain aspects of the Sunnah (as much as we can),as Allah told us to blv in Him.
Anyway,u r making it way to simple in rejecting the hadith as a whole.U dnt realise that there cud b a slight chance that u r REJECTING the prophet's commands (i.e. Allahs commands!).Blasphemy?
@PunisherLobo No, the hadiths come nowhere! Allah (SWT) said in (45:06) "These are the Ayah of Allah, which we recite to you with truth. Then in which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will they believe?" In which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will you believe PunisherLobo ?
@PunisherLobo I am native arabic speaker and Hadith is just a fabrication and a back door to attack the deen of allah "islam" you should study hadith history, and get yourself a copy of Bukhari or muslim. do some research like @humblservant did.
Following the prophet's PBUH life,works,sympathy for others,commitments,honesty etc R not associating Him with Allah.It would be like saying oh muslims worship a black box in a desert!
Prophet PBUH had a sinless life & thats what most muslims do- follow His way of life & as a medical scientist I can assure u that Yes His life style is scientific.He was the best messenger sent by Allah SWT,most successful man on earth accrd. to many scholars all around.
@MrZP20 Your missing the whole point. You believe that hadith is the actual sayings and teachings of the Prophet as though you were there or as though Allah has confirmed the stories. We cant even say for absolute certainty, where the hadiths came from. Your taking the word of people. Allah didnt trust people to record and maintain the truth with Quran which is why He protected the Quran so what makes you think we should trust that they recorded and maintained the truth with hadith?
@MrZP20 Do you know something that Allah does not know? Does being a medical scientist make you absolutely void of common sense? Allah (SWT) protected the Quran so we could have the pure unadulterated truth to follow instead of lies and distortions like those who came before. And you believe that what; He then intended for us to follow man made, unprotected, imperfect doctrine that was open to lies and distortions?! You keep following those man made doctrines. To you be your way; to me be mine.
confidence is different from having an awareness of making a unintentional mistake.u can be confidently making mistakes by not being aware of it.If ur interpretation is not right then really u r doing just like the narrators of the hadiths in ur vision did.as if the people in last 1400 years, including the prophet's (pbuh) companions were less intelligent than u or perhaps,Aysha RA,who told us about Prophet PBUH (most accurate knowledge of the Prophet's PBUH life).
@MrZP20 Did Allah (SWT) reveal to us the supposed hadiths from Ayesha or from any other narrator for that matter? Were you there yourself as a witness? Then you are relying on and following hearsay or conjecture just like Allah states in 6:116.
@humblservant so ppl in last 1400 yrs are stupids? You can challenge that to urself with "confidence" but cannot condemn this openly just like the jews did or the christian did!
How sure are you that the hadiths are wrong? You cannot claim that because U WEREN'T there at that time!
U dont really know if u r challenging Allah or not. That verse 6:116 could refer to the disbeliever. Every good deed life can be adopted from anyone! Does not mean we WORSHIP that "anyone" beside allah!
@MrZP20 And you use 1400 years as a criteria for being on the right path? As I said, the Christians have been worshiping Jesus a God for much longer than that! Does that mean their are the right path? None can be sure of anything with the hadiths. Ur right we werent there, yet u choose to follow that which you do not know. I choose to follow fact, proof, reality and proof. I choose to follow only the Book of Allah. You choose to follow the books of man, but I'm the one who's wrong?
@humblservant sadly yes.U r wrong.U r going against Allah,ofcourse u r wrong. No matter how much u praise allah, u r clearly against his words. and I have given the verses.
If u didnt study the history of hadith, then pls do so. Collections of hadiths started at the time of prophet Muhammad PBUH by Abdallah ibn Amr ibn al-'As (RA) and Prophet PBUH himself corrected it.
One manuscript from 1st century was compared with hadith in Muslims- No mistakes were found.
I am afraid that ur videos r reflecting what paul did to christianity.U r using Quran as a ref,which is great,but u r trying to establish ur opinions as "facts".for last 1400 yrs majority of muslims hav bn following the Sunnah in prayer prostation,doing good in life,how to give charity & so on.greatest islamic scholars in 14th century & even today,really r knowledgeable ppl.Ur claim can be harmful & may show ignorance.Even u dont knw for sure whther ur interpretation is God's interpretation!
@MrZP20 Lets get it straight. Paul wrote what he said was inspirations from God and then passed it off as the Book of God and for you to imply that I have done anything like that, suggests that ur delusional. Not trying to establish opinion as fact, I use the facts of Qur'an to validate my observations. Hadith followers have tried to establish hearsay or conjecture a fact. U mention the majority of Muslims, in 6:116, Allah says "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far
12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.
25 Now concerning[g] the betrothed,[h] I have no command from the Lord, but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy.
@MrZP20 How can u be so sure that u r not misleading?
How can u be so sure that the hadiths of the Prophet PBUH r misleading?
Yes they were narrated in chains & lot of them r just simple life-style.Eating-1 part solid,1 part water, the rest air.whats wrong with following that?it indeed is good for ur health.And ofcourse it does NOT mean we WORSHIP him besides Allah!
Every good deed He (PBUH) had, why cant we adopt those? those arent misleading, ppl hve been doing this for last 1400 yrs!
@MrZP20 Ur still missing the point. How can u b so sure that the hadiths are from the Prophet? You can't. Your following HEARSAY! Whats wrong with following that? Ur following conjecture. 6:116 "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from the path of Allah. They follow nothing but conjectures and they do nothing but lie." This verse meant for those who follow conjecture, not just for "disbeliever" as you say. They couldnt change the Quran like they did the other
@MrZP20 Books of Allah so they came up with the hadiths in an effort to control the masses and every aspect of people's lives right on down to the way we eat. R u serious? Allah gave us free will and the intelligence to choose right from wrong so we are def. free and intelligent enough to decide for ourselves how to do such trivial little things like how to eat! So what ppl have been doing it for the last 1400 years! The Christians have been worshipping Jesus for much longer than that!
@humblservant Islam is a way of Life. Sunnah of the Prophet is to be followed as much as possible.But 1s its the Quran.If u r looking at people & blaming the Word of the Prophet MUHAMMAD PBUH then u r not a muslim.
U r challenging Allah openly & praising Allah at the same time. hypocrisy?Insanity?
I would urge u to read more.U could be more aged,does not mean u know more than others!U can fool urself,but dont harm others by ur "opinions" & "assumptions" just like paul in in galatian & trimothy
@MrZP20 away from the path of Allah. They follow nothing but conjectures and they do nothing but lie. The majority of Christians worship Jesus, the majority of Catholics worship Mary and the majority of Jews denounce Islam, the Quran n Prophet Muhammad so the majority means nothing. Christian Scholars worship Jesus, Jewish Scholars denounce Islam n Prophet Muhammad so the term Scholar is basically overrated. It doesnt automatically mean on the right path.
@MrZP20 Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that he followed only Revelation, therefore his "way" or his Sunnah IS the Qur'an. And as far as the interpretation of Qur'an, states in 3:7, that the foundation of the Book is comprised of entirely clear verses and that those who have a deviation in their heart follow the unclear verses, seeking discord and seeking to give it interpretation but none knows its interpretation save Allah. I rely on Allah to understand His Words. You rely on hearsay.
@humblservant The shahadah has 2 parts- Blv in Allah and His last Prophet!
If u just blv in allah, u r not really a muslim. Since u have to blv in both to be a muslim, i would say lets not challenge Allah. By saying the hadiths r untrue to some extent, u r going against Allahs word (verses in nxt response)
U r not just pretending u r right, u r causing harm to other muslim community.Remember, Allah did inspire Muhammad PBUH (in his dream e.g. to marry Aysha RA).I hope u know why Allah did that!
@MrZP20 Ok now ur making slanderous remarks. I NEVER said I dont believe in Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). I believe in him, I love him and I follow the commands and instructions that he delivered to us through the Book of Allah. Those are the only commands that we can be sure actually came from the Prophet. I do not follow what other people said that the Prophet said and did because I can only trust the Words of Allah. And because I only trust the Words of Allah, u say I dont believe in the Prophet?
@humblservant OK what do u mean by "he delivered to us through the Book of Allah". Muhammad PBUH didnt write the Quran. So he gave the message Allah or the Quran through his Sunnah, which have been presereved!
@MrZP20 I suppose hadithers have to resort to slanderous remarks when they're incapable of proving their point. Did Allah reveal in his Book, the story of Ayesha? No. Then ur only quoting what you know from hadith. Ur trying to bring proof from the very man made doctrines that are in question. Brilliant. If u cant come with Quranic proof then dont come at all. And in regards to your statement that Allah wanted us to believe in hadiths...
@humblservant haha,u r being ignorant,judgemental (indirectly) to Allah. Do u realise that sister?
Did u read the history of collection of hadiths?Did u know the hadits were checked by the prophet PBUH himself?
Do u realise it was the will of Allah and the Prophet for us to know the Hadiths? what does it mean...doesnt it mean there r hadeehts which have been preserved for us?
Islam as a whole is a way of life.Quran has it all,Muhammad's pbuh life is a practical example.I have given u verses
@MrZP20 (45:06) "These are the Ayah of Allah, which we recite to you with truth. Then in which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will they believe?" In which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will you believe MrZP20?
@humblservant So why dont men deny all the histories?None of us were there! in any sort history..why do we care so much?
Hadiths..yes we have proofs..there r manuscripts which were compared with the hadiths and yes they were taken from the Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Its Allah's will and if Allah wills it must have been submitted in any order.
And by making one video and talking over-confidently if u r trying to praise Allah or respect the prophet, I would say please know more about the history :)
@humblservant 45.06 is also for Non-muslims.We blv in Allah's verses,no doubt abt that.thats why we blv in what prophet Muhammad PBUH said (aysha RA was there & she gave evidences).we have proofs on the authenticity of the Hadiths :)
Sister,pls.do give it a 2nd thought.The world is bigger than we think it is.
Whatever u r expressing in these videos,may not be in true sense as Allah swt meant.As Prophet PBUH told us to reject those which contradict Quran,we shouldnt have any prob after that.
@humblservant "Say (O Muhammad to mankind): “If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur’ªn and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” Say (O Muhammad): “Obey Allâh and the Messenger (Muhammad).” But if they turn away, then Allâh does not like the disbelievers." (Qur’an 3: 31)
@humblservant "O mankind! Verily, there has come to you the Messenger (Muhammad) with the truth from your Rabb (Sustainer). So believe in him, it is better for you. But if you disbelieve, then certainly to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. And Allâh is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise." (Qurân 4: 170)
"O you who believe! Obey Allâh, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad) and render not vain your deeds." (Qurân 47: 33)
@humblservant "He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad) has indeed obeyed Allâh, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (Muhammad) as a watcher over them." (Qurân 4: 80)
@humblservant Allah inspired Muhammad Pbuh in His dream to marry Aysha RA. Prophet was quite old & Allah knew that His time was running out. By marrying Aysha (9yrs) wud mean that even after Passing away of the Prophet, Aysha would be young and can spread Islam, the SUNNAH for so long to mankind! Clearly, ALLAH DID WANT US TO BELIEVE IN AYSHA and thats why Allah inspired the Prophet in His dream. We today follow the hadiths that were taken from Aysha RA.
Sadly you believe you know better than the companions of the Prophet since they spoke "Classical" Arabic yet the same Quran which you seem to be an expert on? Says that the compainions of the Prophet even with their eloquent/cassical understanding of Arabic were not able to understand the Quran on their OWN i.e. derive laws and exegesis.
@QuranTafseer He said that he said that she said. You rely on other than Allah to understand His Word, therefore you are associating others with Him. You are committing SHIRK! And I'm just curious...where's the verse in Qur'an that states the companions were not able to understand the Qur'an on their own?
@QuranTafseer Never claimed to be an expert. Simply following the Book of Allah which He, Himself states is explained in detail in 6:114, 7:52, 11:1. He also states in 3:7, that the foundation of the Book is comprised of entirely clear verses and that those who have a deviation in their heart follow the unclear verses, seeking discord and seeking to give it interpretation but none knows its interpretation save Allah. I rely on Allah to understand His Words. You rely on hearsay.
You should know better... we need the hadiths as the hadiths tells us details about certain acts of worship. It is man made, however the Bible is the Christian authority, the Qur'an is ours (not man-made) The hadiths are to help us understand. You need to delete these video, ie. messages you are sending to the youth and ask Allah to forgive you!
@IsaHamzaBilal You obviously have not watched the complete set of videos because if you had, you would not have made such assinine statements advocating the acceptance of these man made, unprotected, imperfect doctrines called hadith, that are filled with lies and distortions. And if you did see all the videos, then your comment is unworthy of a response because it proves that you are truly lost and whomever Allah (SWT) sends astray, surely there is none to guide.
Never should we put hadith over Koran but we should not dismiss it as possible source of good. The good hadiths concurs with the Koran and there is no question that their are many fabricated sayings as hadiths. People's understanding differ and may misinterpret Koran and/or hadith. Use your mind to the best of your ability to make the best out of any claim, including the so called hadith.
"That is the Book, wherein is no doubt, a guidance to the godfearing who believe in the Unseen, and perform the prayer, and expend of that We have provided them;" Surah 2:2-3
The Quran is clear on what we are to spend and who we are to give the purifying alms to.
Allah tells us who to give zakat to in the Quran: To the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and the beggars. Surah 2:177, 2:215, 9:60, 17:26, 30:38-39, 51:19, 59:7
“They ask you as to what they should spend. Say: Whatever wealth you spend, it is for the parents and the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, and whatever good you do, Allah surely knows it.” Surah 2:215
If you cannot spend, do good works: Surah 2:207, 2:263, 2:276, 2:286, 9:91-92, 65:7, 76:8-9, 90:14-16
Good deeds cover evil deeds: Surah 2:271, 6:160, 9:121, 16:97
"Nor do they expend any sum, small or great, nor do they traverse any valley, but it is written to their account, that God may recompense them the best of what they were doing. ." Surah 9:121
Which begs me to ask: Do you spend out of what Allah provides?
If not, be warned:
“Behold! you are those who are called upon to spend in Allah's way, but among you are those who are miserly, and whoever is miserly is miserly against his own soul; and Allah is Self-sufficient and you have need, and if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, then they will not be like you.” Surah 47:38
Those who do not give, their reward is the Fire: Surah 2:268, 3:180, 4:37, 7:85, 9:34, 9:76, 9:98, 17:100, 24:22, 33:19, 47:36-38, 57:24, 69:33-34, 70:21, 89:17-19, 92:8, 107:1-7
"The weighing that day is true; he whose scales are heavy -- they are the prosperers, and he whose scales are light -- they have lost their soul for wronging Our signs. We have established you in the earth and there appointed for you livelihood; little thanks you show." Surah 7:8-10
Every payday, after bills are paid, I take at least 1/5th of the abundance - what is left over - and spend it on the poor, the needy, and/or the near of kin. I ensure a portion is set aside out of what Allah provides me. I do this because this is what Allah revealed in the Quran.
Do you spend out of what Allah provides at all, or do you keep everything that Allah provides you?
What is zakat to you, if it is not the purifying alms?
You do what so many do--you respond with anything and everything except what is asked of you. Here's my question again: is zakaa, obligatory money to paid by each individual muslim? You can begin with a yes or no and then proceed from there with the ayat which proves your choice.
So you openly admit to following hadith - sayings of men - as you quote: "Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg. 233."
Yet when the description Allah revealed in the Quran is the spending of wealth - an appointed share for the poor and needy out of the provision of Allah - you turn away.
Pharaoh was told to serve Allah and submit his will to Him. In doing so, Pharaoh WOULD appoint a portion of what he was provided in service to the poor and needy. Such is part of the purification the believers do in this life. Absolutely, Pharaoh would purify himself by spending out of what Allah provided: Zakat.
But Pharaoh rejected belief, saying he was provider and in control. Surah 40:29, 43:51
He was shown the error of his beliefs. So too will you.
Zakaa is purify one’s self. Nowhere is Al-Quran does Allah command the giving of money on a ritualistic basis as you do and the majority of the so-called muslims. You got that practice from those who supposedly “taught” you Al-Islam. The muslim purifies him/herself by establishing and maintaining salaa (the commitment to follow Allah’s Commands/Al-Quran). As one continues to purify him/herself, the more pure the salaa becomes. Do you see?
Nowhere? Really? You prove you did not read the proofs given nor have you read the entire Quran.
“They ask you as to what they should spend. Say: Whatever wealth you spend, it is for the parents and the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, and whatever good you do, Allah surely knows it.” Surah 2:215
“And they who when they spend, are neither extravagant nor parsimonious, and between these the just mean.” Surah 25:67
"Those who give (yu/tee) his wealth (malahu) to purify himself (yatazakka) and confers no favour on any man for recompense only seeking the Face of his Lord the Most High." Surah 92:18-20
You do not spend out of what Allah provides, do you? Read Surah 92:14-20 to see what description you fit into. Again, pay heed: Surah 47:38
The Quran contains a description for everything. I believe in it.
If zakaa is a ritualistic obligatory monetary fee, as you claim, you said: “I take at least 1/5th every payday”, but the muslim world claims 2.5% per lunar year, which is it? Was Pharaoh to pay? 2.5% per month, 2.5% per year, 1/5 every week or every two weeks, what? Should he pay 10% once a solar year? Which is it? Another thing, is wealth/mala money, skills, goods, all of them? Is zakaa incumbent on all muslims?
First: You say 'muslim world' when the majority follow teachings Allah did not reveal. If they submit themselves to associates, they do not submit to Allah; they are not Muslims.
Call them by what they call themselves: Sunni, Shia, Salafi, etc., or Islamists. They are not Muslims.
Second: Proof is given the purification is from wages, which you denied: Surah 92:18
Third: Had you read the Quran, you would know payment is on the day of harvest. Surah 6:141
"Let the man of plenty expend out of his plenty. As for him whose provision is stinted to him, let him expend of what God has given him. God charges no soul save with what He has given him. God will assuredly appoint, after difficulty, easiness." Surah 65:7
"they give food, for the love of Him, to the needy, the orphan, the captive; 'We feed you only for the Face of God; we desire no recompense from you, no thankfulness." Surah 76:8-9
92:18 Who gives his wealth, purifying himself. Is this money, skills, goods, deeds, what?
"WAGE: A fixed regular payment, typically paid on a daily or weekly". How do you give deeds as a fixed regular payment? How do you give 2.5% in deeds? What if you don’t have a harvest, what then? The prophet’s wives were told to stay inside their houses (33:33). So what wage could they pay? There’s no mention of zakaa in 6:141
there is no mention of 2.5% in Al-Quran, The so-called muslim world has determined this. This is why I stated from the outset, that there is no obligatory ritual monetary fee in Deen Al-Islam. You, likewise, pay a ritual monetary fee every pay period of 1/5. You are doing a ritual. Zakaa is to purify one's salaa (allegiance/service to Allah), but that service/allegiance is not a ritual.
“Behold! you are those who are called upon to spend in Allah's way, but among you are those who are miserly, and whoever is miserly is miserly against his own soul; and Allah is Self-sufficient and you have need, and if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, then they will not be like you.” Surah 47:38
@Surah72 You are doing a ritual, it’s no straw man. 1. Did I miss quote you when you said that you give 1/5 of your money every week? If not, then the straw man accusation is inaccurate. 2. Allah never tells us to follow the example of the Prophet, but to follow the example of the Messenger. There is a major difference in the two capacities. Do you know the difference? 3. Where do you get PBUH from? That’s not in Al-Quran, that’s from the hadith of the so-called muslims. Agreed?
Did the Prophet give 1/5 of the windfalls to the poor and needy? Yes.
Are we to spend out of what Allah provides? Yes.
Are we to spend out of the abundance? Yes.
Are we to spend at the time of harvest? Yes.
All of this is in the Quran.
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and is called the Prophet and the Messenger by Allah. Yet here you are now striving to say we are not to follow the example of Muhammad.
I seek refuge in Allah from the whispers of deceivers.
"Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet of the common folk, whom they find written down with them in the Torah and the Gospel, bidding them to honour, and forbidding them dishonor, making lawful for them the good things and making unlawful for them the corrupt things, and relieving them of their loads, and the fetters that were upon them. Those who believe in him and succor him and help him, and follow the light that has been sent down with him -- they are the prosperous.'
Say: 'O mankind, I am the Messenger of God to you all, of Him to whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and of the earth. There is no god but He. He gives life, and makes to die. Believe then in God, and in HIS MESSENGER, THE PROPHET of the common folk, who believes in God and His words, AND FOLLOW HIM; haply so you will be guided.' Surah 7:158
You only prove you do not read what is shown. I have posted this already.
This ayat is even better, because it say to obey both Allah and the Messenger:
5:92 And obey Allah and obey the Messenger and be cautious; but if you turn back, then know that only a clear deliverance of the message is (incumbent) on Our Messenger
Please provide your ayat proof to follow/obey "Muhammad" or the prophet.
You said: This is what happens when you follow the sayings (hadith) of men, instead of studying the Quran as Allah commands.
Where does Allah reveal PBUH? Where does Allah say follow/obey "Muhammad" or follow the prophet? This comes from so-called muslim hadiths. Do you concede this point? Allah is witness here.
The term for blessing is baraka not salaa. Baraka is not 33:56, hence, there are no “blessings” being sent upon the prophet. Salaa, as you must know, does not mean ritual prayer. So, no, there is no PBUH in Al-Quran. Try again.
66:1 O Prophet! why do you forbid that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Allah had to correct the Prophet’s behavior on a matter of law! The prophet, then, could make mistakes. If the Prophet could make mistakes, then the Message/Al-Quran, would be in doubt! This is why Allah says to obey the Messenger and not obey the Prophet, because there are no mistakes in the Message! Messenger=Message. Get it?
According to you, there is a difference between Muhammad being a Messenger and a Prophet. Yet in Surah 7:157-158, Allah states to follow *him*. Allah does not distinguish between the two.
Your problem gets worse with your Quranist hadith because the example of the MESSENGER in Surah 8:1, 8:41 is to give 1/5th of the abundance to the poor and needy.
You withhold your hands and are miserly. That's your choice. You were warned.
When “Muhammad” called people to gather (jumaa) so that he could recite Al-Quran/The Message to them, he was in the capacity of the Messenger. After he delivered the Message he would then be in the capacity of a man/prophet. While acting in the capacity of the Messenger he could make no mistake, however, in the capacity of a man/prophet he could (66:1).
Misdirection and strawman that creates another problem by your Quranist hadith.
Allah states to follow the Prophet. Surah 8:64
Allah also states follow *him*, while calling Muhammad a Prophet and a Messenger in the same ayats. Allah does not make distinction; Allah states clearly to follow the Prophet and the Messenger. Surah 7:157-158
Muhammad did not invent any sayings. Surah 69:40-48
You say about Allah that which you know not. Surah 7:32-33
Isn’t it true that only Allah guides? Now look at 13:7
13:7 …. you art only a warner and for every people a guide.
So, is “Muhammad” a guide along with Allah? Of course not, that would be shirk. The ayat is pointing out “Muhammad” was seen as guide by his people, because he followed the guidance, however, it was NOT his duty to guide.
The Quran is the revelation of Allah, the word (qawl) of an honored Messenger (pbuh). Surah 69:40-43, 81:19
Only in the Quran do you find Muhammad's words. Allah does not reveal to Himself. Surah 6:145
The Quran is the guidance sent for all nations, all beings. Surah 3:108, 6:90, 12:104, 21:107, 25:1, 38:87, 68:52, 81:27, 34:28, 7:158, 33:40, 4:170, 47:33, 4:80, 61:9, 21:107, 4:79-80
Without Allah revealing to Muhammad, we would not have the Quran.
Allah does not command the believers to follow “Muhammad”, but they followed him because he followed Allah’s guidance. Ayat 8:64 is telling us that Allah was sufficient for the prophet and the believers.
10:35 Say: Is there any of your associates who guides to the truth? Say: Allah guides to the truth. Is He then Who guides to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who himself does not go aright unless he is guided? What then is the matter with you; how do you judge?
SURAH: “Only in the Quran do you have the words of Muhammad (pbuh), as Allah commanded him to speak… Only in the Quran do you find Muhammad's words. Allah does not reveal to Himself.”
No, you have the Words/Kalima OF Allah in Al-Quran. It’s the prophet’s SPEECH, but it’s the WORDS of Allah.
Look at 7:157-Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel. Now look at the Deut. 18:18-19
DEUT. 18:18-19 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put MY WORDS words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto MY WORDS which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
By obeying what Muhammad taught, you follow Allah's revelation.
As you strive to make the Bible your guidance by using it to interpret the Quran, you again use your Quranist hadith to create a problem in your doctrine.
The Quran was written during the time of Muhammad: Surah 29:48, 96:4, 68:1, 80:11-16
Muhammad arranged the Quran according to Allah’s will: Surah 75:16-17, 16:101-102, 25:32
We are NOT discussing who it is revealed to, but WHOSE WORDS were REVEALED.
It’s Allah’s Words and the speech of the prophet “Muhammad”.
Without Allah revealing to the prophet, we would not have the Quran.
You still continue to duck and runaway from my question...what are you afraid of. Calling me names will not help your case. Again, did the prophet make a mistake in judgement in ayat 66:1...yes or no?
No where in Surah 66:1 does it state the Prophet made a mistake in judgment.
"O Prophet, why forbiddest thou what God has made lawful to thee, seeking the good pleasure of thy wives? And God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate." Surah 66:1
Allah made sure the Prophet knew absolution of oaths was allowed. Surah 66:2
This has nothing to do with a mistake in judgment, but with Allah clarifying that which is allowed and the secret council of his *wives*. Surah 66:4
You pick out one ayat to suit your purpose, and no where in the Quran does Allah differentiate in the capacity of Muhammad. You cannot show anywhere in the Quran where Allah states the Prophet has a different role than as a Messenger.
Again, you bring Lexicons and hadith of Quranists instead of proof from the Quran.
You are called no names, I only state my belief - judging by what Allah revealed - based on the falsehood you teach. You follow falsehood, not Allah's revelation. Surah 47:3
Muhammad (pbuh) forbid himself from the wife of a stepson after she was divorced, when this was allowed. Surah 33:37-40
"Muhammad is not the father of any one of your men, but the Messenger of God, and the Seal of the Prophets; God has knowledge of everything." Surah 33:40
You state: It was the words of Allah that were written down.
Howdoes the speech (qwol) of Allah's Messenger play a part?
Allah states clearly it is the word (qwol) of an honored Messenger - speaking about Muhammad.
The answer from the Quran was given earlier. Insha'Allah, you will finally read the proofs I give you from the Quran, by the leave of Allah, instead of ignoring them.
You continue to bring nothing but explanation, no proof.
SURAH: How does the speech (qwol) of Allah's Messenger play a part? Allah states clearly it is the word (qwol) of an honored Messenger - speaking about Muhammad.
You contradict yourself. Does qala mean speech or word? Which one? I’ll answer for you because you don’t know. Qala means speech and kalima is word. Thus, it is the SPEECH of an honored Messenger and the WORDS of Allah.
SURAH: So why do you turn to the collection of Books called 'The Bible' to explain the Quran?
Let me ask you a question…why do you think Allah revealed ayat 7:157? Was it just vanity on His part to do this or did He want the readers to see how the Last Prophet and Messenger of Allah was long ago predicted to come? Ayat 7:157 is citing Deut.18:19 and Deut.18-19 then sends the reader right back to Al-Quran for their guidance. No Bible teachings being followed. Get it, now?
My dear sister just want to say a big thank you for putting this vedio out on utube. It's a shame that most of our brothers and sisters are following man made laws and still blind of Allah's command\law.
tcockar 3 days ago
haha i guess you black people will never get it...praying and believing the same bullshit that was forced upon during slavery.....FUCK ALL RELIGION even islam....all you niggas have a computers anfd know the truth but all yall wanna do is make your beleif even stronger in you opresser god lmao....smh..
B7acKLioN 1 week ago
good job sister ,, hadith is what brought the muslim to the misery they are living today ,,
MegaYiwen 3 weeks ago
Well told sister , keep up with a good job .
aturshaev 3 weeks ago
Thank you so much for this video sister! I needed it! May Allah bless you!
DouniaJaiya 1 month ago
may allah bless you.you are right the quran is all we need.
coraniques 1 month ago
May Allah guide U Sister!
jame566 1 month ago
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TheTruthIsFromGod 1 month ago
My last reply to u: How ignorant must you be that u reject hadith totally?
Cant there be a slight chance that it contains one of prophet's PBUH command?
and if there is, u will be judged according to ur deeds by Allah.
All we can do is pray that u see the truth and may Allah grant us understanding.
Peace be with u sister. :)
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 The ignorance comes from those who put their trust in hearsay like you do. Allah protected the Quran because He didnt trust man to record and maintain the truth but you trust that man recorded and maintained the truth with hadith so I suppose you know more than Allah. The Book of Allah is perfect and complete and we need nothing else. Prophet Muhammad said he followed only revelation (10:15) and he was a good example to follow, so I do as he did and follow only revelation.
humblservant 1 month ago
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@humblservant It is my first comment on your comment where you said:
**Allah protected the Quran because He didnt trust man to record**
Allah swt protected the Quran USING MAN,He trust,choose,TO BE OBEYED THE CHOOSING ONE'S ACTIONS.
orgolioitalia1 1 month ago
@humblservant THERE is no verse in the Quran that goes against the SUNNAH because the Sunna means(PRACTICAL EXAMPLE OF PROPHET SAW).
Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah, then follow me,..."3:31
like it too many verses
orgolioitalia1 1 month ago
@humblservant we have in the Quran.
it's all PRACTICAL ACTIONS NOT ABOUT WRITING OR BOOKS AND IT IS ALL PROTECTED THROW TIME BY ALLAH THOSE WHO FOLLOWED PROPHET AND THOSE WHO LATER AND SO ON.
THE TRICK PLAYED BY SATAN IS TO ..
orgolioitalia1 1 month ago
@humblservant TO CHANGE THE MEANING BEHIND WORDS AS INFORMED IN THE QURAN.
...They distort words beyond their [proper] usages...5:41 4:46 AND 5:13
IN LAST THE SAME BOOK SAYS:
And We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed ...
orgolioitalia1 1 month ago
@humblservant And We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed by permission of Allah. 4:64
AGAIN it is all about practical and those who say with *tongue* we obey messenger not in PRACTICAL ACTIONS.
see 5:41
orgolioitalia1 1 month ago
@humblservant Allah swt called liar the hypocrites because they used just *tongue*.
When the hypocrites come to you,they say, "We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah." ..., and Allah testifies that the hypocrites are liars.
orgolioitalia1 1 month ago
@humblservant The given verse BEFORE is from chapter 63:1
I don't know why YouTube allowing LESS words FOR a comment today so i have TO WRITE IN PIECES. THESE COMMENT.
please be aware from few deceiving people on YouTube.
peace
orgolioitalia1 1 month ago
@humblservant subhanallah u are so lost .whever rejects hadith completly is a kaffir repent
izlamiztruth 3 weeks ago
please dont assume or predict or produce a lie with ur ignorance if you are NOT 100% sure of it.
By rejecting hadiths, there could be a tiny possibility that u r rejecting a true statement of the Prophet PBUH therein.
This would be against Allah's command and as u said u follow Allah's words only, clearly u r making the mistake in that case.
1.3 billion muslims - (minus) a few of u who reject the hadith. Allah knows best and may Allah guide you. Blasphemy is a terrible thing.
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 you should follow you own advice. "please dont assume or predict or produce a lie with ur ignorance if you are NOT 100% sure of it.". I will say to you that yo cannot prove that the Hadith was actually stated by the Prophet. Allah Clearly gave us a truthful word. "If you follow the majority of them............................."
Teddy3inDC 1 month ago
It was Allah's and the Prophet's PBUH will for us to know the Sunnah! Which means the authentic ones are still out there! And they are if u really knew about the manuscripts!
My dear sister, no way i want to offend u. If I am being ignorant, i ask Allah to forgive me.
But Please do not do this mistake. U may love Allah and His Prophet PBUH, but by saying such things its very clear that u r against Allah's words in the Quran.
I love ur courage, but i cant appreciate if u r harming islam. :)
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 5:99 and 16:82 both say that the Prophet's duty was only to deliver or preach the message and 75:19 says that it was on Allah Himself, to explain it which is consistent with 6:114, 7:52, 11:1, 17:12, and 41:3 that all say that Allah sent down His Book explained in detail. U keep calling hadiths the words of the Prophet as though you can prove it. Your relying on man made words, man made manuscripts which mean ur relying on hearsay! Point blank, PERIOD. And since you believe in hadiths
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant Its funny.U r assuming this totally,just like u assumed the hadiths to be completely man-made.
I live my life according to the Quran and whatever prophet did under the Quranic teaching. this is the message of Allah in the quran. Im sure u know it.
2nd, if someone does good deed, i.e. help others, love children, if someone abuse u, u dont abuse him back etc...these r good teachings of the Prophets.
I dont see any harm in following these good teachings.
simple common sense really
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 If you follow conjecture and hearsay you are not really using you sense.
Teddy3inDC 1 month ago
@MrZP20 other than Allah and His Ayah, then you fall into the group that Allah addresses when He says (45:06) "These are the Ayah of Allah, which we recite to you with truth. Then in which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will they believe?" U think ur above admonishment? You believe in hadiths other than Allah and His Ayah, so He's talking to you! If you choose to keep following man made narrations in hopes that they are actually from the Prophet, be my guest but for me and mine we will continue
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant Certainly i do blv in Allah's ayat and u dont. "And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad) the Zhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur'an)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought." [16:44]
"There has certainly been for you[Muslims] in the Messenger of Allah an USWATUN HASANATUN [Good pattern,Beautiful Example,Supreme Model] for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often."[33:21]
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 to follow the Book of Allah like we're told to do in 6;155. And in 7:2&3, Allah tells Prophet Muhammad to remind the believers to follow revelation. And lets not forget 10:35 where Allah says {Say:"Is there of your partners one that guides to the truth?" Say: "It is Allah who guides to the truth. Is then He who gives guidance to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who finds not guidance unless he, himself is guided? Then what is the matter with you? How judge you?"
humblservant 1 month ago
@MrZP20 (10:36) {And most of them follow nothing but conjecture. Certainly, conjecture can be of no avail against the truth. Surely Allah is all aware of what they do.} I'm done disputing with you MrZP20. Ur obviously so far gone that not even proof from Allah's Words will make you see the truth. And whomever Allah (SWT) sends astray, surely there is none to guide.I'll pray that Allah guides you to a Straight Way. Time to make better use of my time. Salaams
humblservant 1 month ago
@humbleservant I follow the Quran. I worship Allah in the way prophet Muhammad had shown (as per Allah's permission).
Allah says in 16.44 to Muhammad PBUH to explain the Quran to us. Thats what Muhammad PBUH did and so we follow what He told us regarding Quran.
We use authentic hadiths.Muhammad PBUH said: "If ever you hear of something I have said as contradicting Allah's words in the Qu'ran, then that statement is not of me [i.e. it is a fabrication]."
So basically we reject them! simple!
MrZP20 1 month ago
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I have sent u an essay summarising the history on collection of hadiths and rejection of hadiths.
Do read it please.
May Allah grant us understand and acceptance of the truth.
" And We [God] have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) the Zhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur'an)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought." [16:44]
Read reply 1 cont.
I end my discussion here.
MrZP20 1 month ago
@humbleservant reply1 cont: Here Allah is saying that 1 of the main purposes of the Prophet Muhammad [saas] being sent is to explain the Qu'ran.If the Prophet's [saas] explanations have been lost or are fabricated, then the only reasonable conclusion would be that Allah [swt] and the Prophet [saas] both failed in their objectives, and we seek refuge in Allah [swt] from such blasphemy.
Do u realise that U R TALKING AGAINST ALLAH?
IF YOU REALLY HAVE FREE WILL TO THINK, then prioritize this 1st.
MrZP20 1 month ago
@humbleservant reply 1: the Qu'ran explains the Prophet Muhammad's [saas] role as follows: " And We [God] have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم) the Zhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur'an)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought." [16:44]
MrZP20 1 month ago
These verses are taken from the Quran.It is complete in terms of its contents.
To show examples of the Quran practically,Muhammad's PBUH sunnah r v important.
We dont worship the prophet besides Allah by following hadiths.These R ways to live a modest,decent,honest life in present world.
The verses i have given if u believe in Allah's word,then blv in them too!And by blving in them it would mean u will have to believe in Muhammad PBUH.
U need to knw hadiths in its true history & cntext.SALAM
MrZP20 1 month ago
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"O mankind! Verily, there has come to you the Messenger (Muhammad) with the truth from your Rabb (Sustainer). So believe in him, it is better for you. But if you disbelieve, then certainly to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. And Allâh is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise." (Qurân 4: 170)
MrZP20 1 month ago
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"He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad) has indeed obeyed Allâh, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (Muhammad) as a watcher over them." (Qurân 4: 80)
"O you who believe! Obey Allâh, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad) and render not vain your deeds." (Qurân 47: 33)
MrZP20 1 month ago
Allah inspired Muhammad Pbuh in His dream to marry Aysha RA.Prophet was old & Allah knew that His time was running out.By marrying Aysha (9yrs) wud mean that evn aftr Passing away of Prophet,Aysha wud be young & can spread Islam,the SUNNAH for so long to mankind!Clearly,ALLAH DID WANT US TO BELIEVE IN AYSHA,hence Allah inspired the Prophet in His dream.We today follow the hadiths that were taken from Aysha RA.
Allah wanted us to blv in hadiths!
ur "confidence" is challening Allah.
Salam
MrZP20 1 month ago
whats your problem if an hadith is oppsion a quran aya its not correct every sholar will tell you that its a reason for it why we are called SUNNis!!! Watch this watch?v=qV7UO4xJ7zU !!! I think you have Problem whit Wahabis they use many Hadith to comfirm their sect! Plz study some Fiqh Systematic of the 4 Madhabs and how they where made and most imprtant WHY! Dont let them Wahabis get you.
PunisherLobo 1 month ago
Its not that simple sister! You need to know arabic lingustika and even studying the Quran whit all that to understand that Quran comes first and Hadith comes after that.
PunisherLobo 1 month ago
@PunisherLobo WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER A BOOK OF HERSAY AND LIES AS A NUMBER 2 RESOURCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. DO NOT FORGET THAT THE HADITH HAS BEEN DESIGN TO MISLEAD NOT GUIDE SO WHY REFER TO THAT DEGENERATE SOURCE ANYWAY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT ALLAH HAS CALLED THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN THE HADITH? GO LOOK IT UP.
PUNISHERUltra 1 month ago
@PUNISHERUltra
Following good deeds is never wrong. As Prophet PBUH said to us to reject the statements which contradict quranic verses and that these r not his statement (i.e. fabricated), we simply ignore them.
We follow certain aspects of the Sunnah (as much as we can),as Allah told us to blv in Him.
Anyway,u r making it way to simple in rejecting the hadith as a whole.U dnt realise that there cud b a slight chance that u r REJECTING the prophet's commands (i.e. Allahs commands!).Blasphemy?
MrZP20 1 month ago
@PunisherLobo No, the hadiths come nowhere! Allah (SWT) said in (45:06) "These are the Ayah of Allah, which we recite to you with truth. Then in which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will they believe?" In which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will you believe PunisherLobo ?
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant look at what sheikh hamza yusuf tells.
PunisherLobo 1 month ago
@PunisherLobo I am native arabic speaker and Hadith is just a fabrication and a back door to attack the deen of allah "islam" you should study hadith history, and get yourself a copy of Bukhari or muslim. do some research like @humblservant did.
abuamramr 1 month ago
Following the prophet's PBUH life,works,sympathy for others,commitments,honesty etc R not associating Him with Allah.It would be like saying oh muslims worship a black box in a desert!
Prophet PBUH had a sinless life & thats what most muslims do- follow His way of life & as a medical scientist I can assure u that Yes His life style is scientific.He was the best messenger sent by Allah SWT,most successful man on earth accrd. to many scholars all around.
Time for u to slow down a bit? :) Salam
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Your missing the whole point. You believe that hadith is the actual sayings and teachings of the Prophet as though you were there or as though Allah has confirmed the stories. We cant even say for absolute certainty, where the hadiths came from. Your taking the word of people. Allah didnt trust people to record and maintain the truth with Quran which is why He protected the Quran so what makes you think we should trust that they recorded and maintained the truth with hadith?
humblservant 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Do you know something that Allah does not know? Does being a medical scientist make you absolutely void of common sense? Allah (SWT) protected the Quran so we could have the pure unadulterated truth to follow instead of lies and distortions like those who came before. And you believe that what; He then intended for us to follow man made, unprotected, imperfect doctrine that was open to lies and distortions?! You keep following those man made doctrines. To you be your way; to me be mine.
humblservant 1 month ago
confidence is different from having an awareness of making a unintentional mistake.u can be confidently making mistakes by not being aware of it.If ur interpretation is not right then really u r doing just like the narrators of the hadiths in ur vision did.as if the people in last 1400 years, including the prophet's (pbuh) companions were less intelligent than u or perhaps,Aysha RA,who told us about Prophet PBUH (most accurate knowledge of the Prophet's PBUH life).
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Did Allah (SWT) reveal to us the supposed hadiths from Ayesha or from any other narrator for that matter? Were you there yourself as a witness? Then you are relying on and following hearsay or conjecture just like Allah states in 6:116.
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant so ppl in last 1400 yrs are stupids? You can challenge that to urself with "confidence" but cannot condemn this openly just like the jews did or the christian did!
How sure are you that the hadiths are wrong? You cannot claim that because U WEREN'T there at that time!
U dont really know if u r challenging Allah or not. That verse 6:116 could refer to the disbeliever. Every good deed life can be adopted from anyone! Does not mean we WORSHIP that "anyone" beside allah!
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 And you use 1400 years as a criteria for being on the right path? As I said, the Christians have been worshiping Jesus a God for much longer than that! Does that mean their are the right path? None can be sure of anything with the hadiths. Ur right we werent there, yet u choose to follow that which you do not know. I choose to follow fact, proof, reality and proof. I choose to follow only the Book of Allah. You choose to follow the books of man, but I'm the one who's wrong?
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant sadly yes.U r wrong.U r going against Allah,ofcourse u r wrong. No matter how much u praise allah, u r clearly against his words. and I have given the verses.
If u didnt study the history of hadith, then pls do so. Collections of hadiths started at the time of prophet Muhammad PBUH by Abdallah ibn Amr ibn al-'As (RA) and Prophet PBUH himself corrected it.
One manuscript from 1st century was compared with hadith in Muslims- No mistakes were found.
MrZP20 1 month ago
I am afraid that ur videos r reflecting what paul did to christianity.U r using Quran as a ref,which is great,but u r trying to establish ur opinions as "facts".for last 1400 yrs majority of muslims hav bn following the Sunnah in prayer prostation,doing good in life,how to give charity & so on.greatest islamic scholars in 14th century & even today,really r knowledgeable ppl.Ur claim can be harmful & may show ignorance.Even u dont knw for sure whther ur interpretation is God's interpretation!
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Lets get it straight. Paul wrote what he said was inspirations from God and then passed it off as the Book of God and for you to imply that I have done anything like that, suggests that ur delusional. Not trying to establish opinion as fact, I use the facts of Qur'an to validate my observations. Hadith followers have tried to establish hearsay or conjecture a fact. U mention the majority of Muslims, in 6:116, Allah says "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant Paul: 1 Corinthians 7
12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. 13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.
25 Now concerning[g] the betrothed,[h] I have no command from the Lord, but I give my judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy.
God ordered him?? or his opinion it was?
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 How can u be so sure that u r not misleading?
How can u be so sure that the hadiths of the Prophet PBUH r misleading?
Yes they were narrated in chains & lot of them r just simple life-style.Eating-1 part solid,1 part water, the rest air.whats wrong with following that?it indeed is good for ur health.And ofcourse it does NOT mean we WORSHIP him besides Allah!
Every good deed He (PBUH) had, why cant we adopt those? those arent misleading, ppl hve been doing this for last 1400 yrs!
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Ur still missing the point. How can u b so sure that the hadiths are from the Prophet? You can't. Your following HEARSAY! Whats wrong with following that? Ur following conjecture. 6:116 "And if you obey most of those on earth, they will mislead you far away from the path of Allah. They follow nothing but conjectures and they do nothing but lie." This verse meant for those who follow conjecture, not just for "disbeliever" as you say. They couldnt change the Quran like they did the other
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant I have sent u an essay on this. U can be sure if u have studied the true history and not bits and pieces from here and there!
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Books of Allah so they came up with the hadiths in an effort to control the masses and every aspect of people's lives right on down to the way we eat. R u serious? Allah gave us free will and the intelligence to choose right from wrong so we are def. free and intelligent enough to decide for ourselves how to do such trivial little things like how to eat! So what ppl have been doing it for the last 1400 years! The Christians have been worshipping Jesus for much longer than that!
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant Islam is a way of Life. Sunnah of the Prophet is to be followed as much as possible.But 1s its the Quran.If u r looking at people & blaming the Word of the Prophet MUHAMMAD PBUH then u r not a muslim.
U r challenging Allah openly & praising Allah at the same time. hypocrisy?Insanity?
I would urge u to read more.U could be more aged,does not mean u know more than others!U can fool urself,but dont harm others by ur "opinions" & "assumptions" just like paul in in galatian & trimothy
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 away from the path of Allah. They follow nothing but conjectures and they do nothing but lie. The majority of Christians worship Jesus, the majority of Catholics worship Mary and the majority of Jews denounce Islam, the Quran n Prophet Muhammad so the majority means nothing. Christian Scholars worship Jesus, Jewish Scholars denounce Islam n Prophet Muhammad so the term Scholar is basically overrated. It doesnt automatically mean on the right path.
humblservant 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said that he followed only Revelation, therefore his "way" or his Sunnah IS the Qur'an. And as far as the interpretation of Qur'an, states in 3:7, that the foundation of the Book is comprised of entirely clear verses and that those who have a deviation in their heart follow the unclear verses, seeking discord and seeking to give it interpretation but none knows its interpretation save Allah. I rely on Allah to understand His Words. You rely on hearsay.
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant The shahadah has 2 parts- Blv in Allah and His last Prophet!
If u just blv in allah, u r not really a muslim. Since u have to blv in both to be a muslim, i would say lets not challenge Allah. By saying the hadiths r untrue to some extent, u r going against Allahs word (verses in nxt response)
U r not just pretending u r right, u r causing harm to other muslim community.Remember, Allah did inspire Muhammad PBUH (in his dream e.g. to marry Aysha RA).I hope u know why Allah did that!
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 Ok now ur making slanderous remarks. I NEVER said I dont believe in Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). I believe in him, I love him and I follow the commands and instructions that he delivered to us through the Book of Allah. Those are the only commands that we can be sure actually came from the Prophet. I do not follow what other people said that the Prophet said and did because I can only trust the Words of Allah. And because I only trust the Words of Allah, u say I dont believe in the Prophet?
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant OK what do u mean by "he delivered to us through the Book of Allah". Muhammad PBUH didnt write the Quran. So he gave the message Allah or the Quran through his Sunnah, which have been presereved!
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 I suppose hadithers have to resort to slanderous remarks when they're incapable of proving their point. Did Allah reveal in his Book, the story of Ayesha? No. Then ur only quoting what you know from hadith. Ur trying to bring proof from the very man made doctrines that are in question. Brilliant. If u cant come with Quranic proof then dont come at all. And in regards to your statement that Allah wanted us to believe in hadiths...
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant haha,u r being ignorant,judgemental (indirectly) to Allah. Do u realise that sister?
Did u read the history of collection of hadiths?Did u know the hadits were checked by the prophet PBUH himself?
Do u realise it was the will of Allah and the Prophet for us to know the Hadiths? what does it mean...doesnt it mean there r hadeehts which have been preserved for us?
Islam as a whole is a way of life.Quran has it all,Muhammad's pbuh life is a practical example.I have given u verses
MrZP20 1 month ago
@MrZP20 (45:06) "These are the Ayah of Allah, which we recite to you with truth. Then in which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will they believe?" In which hadith after Allah and His Ayah will you believe MrZP20?
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant So why dont men deny all the histories?None of us were there! in any sort history..why do we care so much?
Hadiths..yes we have proofs..there r manuscripts which were compared with the hadiths and yes they were taken from the Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Its Allah's will and if Allah wills it must have been submitted in any order.
And by making one video and talking over-confidently if u r trying to praise Allah or respect the prophet, I would say please know more about the history :)
MrZP20 1 month ago
@humblservant 45.06 is also for Non-muslims.We blv in Allah's verses,no doubt abt that.thats why we blv in what prophet Muhammad PBUH said (aysha RA was there & she gave evidences).we have proofs on the authenticity of the Hadiths :)
Sister,pls.do give it a 2nd thought.The world is bigger than we think it is.
Whatever u r expressing in these videos,may not be in true sense as Allah swt meant.As Prophet PBUH told us to reject those which contradict Quran,we shouldnt have any prob after that.
MrZP20 1 month ago
@humblservant "Say (O Muhammad to mankind): “If you (really) love Allâh then follow me (i.e. accept Islâmic Monotheism, follow the Qur’ªn and the Sunnah), Allâh will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” Say (O Muhammad): “Obey Allâh and the Messenger (Muhammad).” But if they turn away, then Allâh does not like the disbelievers." (Qur’an 3: 31)
MrZP20 1 month ago
@humblservant "O mankind! Verily, there has come to you the Messenger (Muhammad) with the truth from your Rabb (Sustainer). So believe in him, it is better for you. But if you disbelieve, then certainly to Allâh belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. And Allâh is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise." (Qurân 4: 170)
"O you who believe! Obey Allâh, and obey the Messenger (Muhammad) and render not vain your deeds." (Qurân 47: 33)
MrZP20 1 month ago
@humblservant "He who obeys the Messenger (Muhammad) has indeed obeyed Allâh, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (Muhammad) as a watcher over them." (Qurân 4: 80)
How about this 1?
MrZP20 1 month ago
@humblservant Allah inspired Muhammad Pbuh in His dream to marry Aysha RA. Prophet was quite old & Allah knew that His time was running out. By marrying Aysha (9yrs) wud mean that even after Passing away of the Prophet, Aysha would be young and can spread Islam, the SUNNAH for so long to mankind! Clearly, ALLAH DID WANT US TO BELIEVE IN AYSHA and thats why Allah inspired the Prophet in His dream. We today follow the hadiths that were taken from Aysha RA.
Allah wanted us to blv in hadiths! Salam
MrZP20 1 month ago
God bless you
MrEmperor3 1 month ago
Sadly you believe you know better than the companions of the Prophet since they spoke "Classical" Arabic yet the same Quran which you seem to be an expert on? Says that the compainions of the Prophet even with their eloquent/cassical understanding of Arabic were not able to understand the Quran on their OWN i.e. derive laws and exegesis.
May Allah Guide (Ameen).
QuranTafseer 1 month ago
@QuranTafseer He said that he said that she said. You rely on other than Allah to understand His Word, therefore you are associating others with Him. You are committing SHIRK! And I'm just curious...where's the verse in Qur'an that states the companions were not able to understand the Qur'an on their own?
humblservant 1 month ago
@QuranTafseer Never claimed to be an expert. Simply following the Book of Allah which He, Himself states is explained in detail in 6:114, 7:52, 11:1. He also states in 3:7, that the foundation of the Book is comprised of entirely clear verses and that those who have a deviation in their heart follow the unclear verses, seeking discord and seeking to give it interpretation but none knows its interpretation save Allah. I rely on Allah to understand His Words. You rely on hearsay.
humblservant 1 month ago
You should know better... we need the hadiths as the hadiths tells us details about certain acts of worship. It is man made, however the Bible is the Christian authority, the Qur'an is ours (not man-made) The hadiths are to help us understand. You need to delete these video, ie. messages you are sending to the youth and ask Allah to forgive you!
IsaHamzaBilal 1 month ago
@IsaHamzaBilal You obviously have not watched the complete set of videos because if you had, you would not have made such assinine statements advocating the acceptance of these man made, unprotected, imperfect doctrines called hadith, that are filled with lies and distortions. And if you did see all the videos, then your comment is unworthy of a response because it proves that you are truly lost and whomever Allah (SWT) sends astray, surely there is none to guide.
humblservant 1 month ago
@humblservant Very well said. Salamun Alaikum
Teddy3inDC 1 month ago
Never should we put hadith over Koran but we should not dismiss it as possible source of good. The good hadiths concurs with the Koran and there is no question that their are many fabricated sayings as hadiths. People's understanding differ and may misinterpret Koran and/or hadith. Use your mind to the best of your ability to make the best out of any claim, including the so called hadith.
papajigster 1 month ago
Nice work, sister! =)
Poohtiglet 1 month ago
Salam,
Keep it up sister. We will support you.
AsarAtTheDesk 1 month ago
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AsarAtTheDesk 1 month ago
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ICRQS 1 month ago
Let's start here. Is zakaa, obligatory money to paid by each individual muslim?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
Yes. Zakat is the Purgation - the purifying alms given at time of harvest. For many, that is payday.
"And those in whose wealth there is a fixed portion." Surah 70:24
“By no means shall you attain to righteousness until you spend out of what you love; and whatever thing you spend, Allah surely knows it.” Surah 3:92
“Those who spend in ease as well as in straitness, and those who restrain anger and pardon men; and Allah loves the doers of good.” Surah 3:134
Surah72 1 month ago
"That is the Book, wherein is no doubt, a guidance to the godfearing who believe in the Unseen, and perform the prayer, and expend of that We have provided them;" Surah 2:2-3
The Quran is clear on what we are to spend and who we are to give the purifying alms to.
Surah72 1 month ago
Allah tells us who to give zakat to in the Quran: To the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and the beggars. Surah 2:177, 2:215, 9:60, 17:26, 30:38-39, 51:19, 59:7
“They ask you as to what they should spend. Say: Whatever wealth you spend, it is for the parents and the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, and whatever good you do, Allah surely knows it.” Surah 2:215
Surah72 1 month ago
The Prophet (pbuh) spent 1/5th of the spoils of war in the service of the poor and needy: Surah 8:1, 8:41
Give at time of harvest. Surah 6:141
Give in balance and only give of good things: Surah 2:267, 25:67, 17:26
“And they who when they spend, are neither extravagant nor parsimonious, and between these the just mean.” Surah 25:67
Surah72 1 month ago
If you cannot spend, do good works: Surah 2:207, 2:263, 2:276, 2:286, 9:91-92, 65:7, 76:8-9, 90:14-16
Good deeds cover evil deeds: Surah 2:271, 6:160, 9:121, 16:97
"Nor do they expend any sum, small or great, nor do they traverse any valley, but it is written to their account, that God may recompense them the best of what they were doing. ." Surah 9:121
Surah72 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Which begs me to ask: Do you spend out of what Allah provides?
If not, be warned:
“Behold! you are those who are called upon to spend in Allah's way, but among you are those who are miserly, and whoever is miserly is miserly against his own soul; and Allah is Self-sufficient and you have need, and if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, then they will not be like you.” Surah 47:38
Surah72 1 month ago
Those who do not give, their reward is the Fire: Surah 2:268, 3:180, 4:37, 7:85, 9:34, 9:76, 9:98, 17:100, 24:22, 33:19, 47:36-38, 57:24, 69:33-34, 70:21, 89:17-19, 92:8, 107:1-7
"The weighing that day is true; he whose scales are heavy -- they are the prosperers, and he whose scales are light -- they have lost their soul for wronging Our signs. We have established you in the earth and there appointed for you livelihood; little thanks you show." Surah 7:8-10
Surah72 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Every payday, after bills are paid, I take at least 1/5th of the abundance - what is left over - and spend it on the poor, the needy, and/or the near of kin. I ensure a portion is set aside out of what Allah provides me. I do this because this is what Allah revealed in the Quran.
Do you spend out of what Allah provides at all, or do you keep everything that Allah provides you?
What is zakat to you, if it is not the purifying alms?
Bring your proof.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
You do what so many do--you respond with anything and everything except what is asked of you. Here's my question again: is zakaa, obligatory money to paid by each individual muslim? You can begin with a yes or no and then proceed from there with the ayat which proves your choice.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Your answer was given below. Scroll down and pay attention.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
ZAKAA/ZAIN-KAH: to be pure and clean: to grow: to be righteous. Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg. 233.
79:17-18 Go to Pharaoh, surely he has rebelled. And say: Wilt thou purify/zakaa thyself?
Is Allah telling Pharoah to pay a ritual fee or follow the guidance brought by Musa and thus purify himself?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
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@PRIESTBOKMEI1
So you openly admit to following hadith - sayings of men - as you quote: "Dictionary of the Quran, by Abdul Mannan Omar, pg. 233."
Yet when the description Allah revealed in the Quran is the spending of wealth - an appointed share for the poor and needy out of the provision of Allah - you turn away.
Again, pay heed: Surah 47:38
You cannot say you were not given reminder or warned. :)
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
Pharaoh was told to serve Allah and submit his will to Him. In doing so, Pharaoh WOULD appoint a portion of what he was provided in service to the poor and needy. Such is part of the purification the believers do in this life. Absolutely, Pharaoh would purify himself by spending out of what Allah provided: Zakat.
But Pharaoh rejected belief, saying he was provider and in control. Surah 40:29, 43:51
He was shown the error of his beliefs. So too will you.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
Zakaa is purify one’s self. Nowhere is Al-Quran does Allah command the giving of money on a ritualistic basis as you do and the majority of the so-called muslims. You got that practice from those who supposedly “taught” you Al-Islam. The muslim purifies him/herself by establishing and maintaining salaa (the commitment to follow Allah’s Commands/Al-Quran). As one continues to purify him/herself, the more pure the salaa becomes. Do you see?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
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@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Nowhere? Really? You prove you did not read the proofs given nor have you read the entire Quran.
“They ask you as to what they should spend. Say: Whatever wealth you spend, it is for the parents and the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, and whatever good you do, Allah surely knows it.” Surah 2:215
“And they who when they spend, are neither extravagant nor parsimonious, and between these the just mean.” Surah 25:67
Surah72 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
"Allathee yu/tee malahu yatazakka" Surah 92:18
"Those who give (yu/tee) his wealth (malahu) to purify himself (yatazakka) and confers no favour on any man for recompense only seeking the Face of his Lord the Most High." Surah 92:18-20
You do not spend out of what Allah provides, do you? Read Surah 92:14-20 to see what description you fit into. Again, pay heed: Surah 47:38
The Quran contains a description for everything. I believe in it.
Will you pay heed?
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
In order to know what is in the Quran, you have to read the Quran.
May Allah increase the believers in knowledge.
Peace and blessings.
Surah72 1 month ago
If zakaa is a ritualistic obligatory monetary fee, as you claim, you said: “I take at least 1/5th every payday”, but the muslim world claims 2.5% per lunar year, which is it? Was Pharaoh to pay? 2.5% per month, 2.5% per year, 1/5 every week or every two weeks, what? Should he pay 10% once a solar year? Which is it? Another thing, is wealth/mala money, skills, goods, all of them? Is zakaa incumbent on all muslims?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
First: You say 'muslim world' when the majority follow teachings Allah did not reveal. If they submit themselves to associates, they do not submit to Allah; they are not Muslims.
Call them by what they call themselves: Sunni, Shia, Salafi, etc., or Islamists. They are not Muslims.
Second: Proof is given the purification is from wages, which you denied: Surah 92:18
Third: Had you read the Quran, you would know payment is on the day of harvest. Surah 6:141
Surah72 1 month ago
To answer your question about Pharaoh: He disbelieved. He did not purify himself and denied Allah's revelation. Your question is baseless.
Zakat is incumbent on all who submit their will to Allah.
“By no means shall you attain to righteousness until you spend out of what you love; and whatever thing you spend, Allah surely knows it.” Surah 3:92
Read Surah 2:177
You deny Allah's revelation, even after clear proofs are given.
Why do you act like Pharaoh?
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
Can zakaa be deeds?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Yes, it can be deeds.
"Let the man of plenty expend out of his plenty. As for him whose provision is stinted to him, let him expend of what God has given him. God charges no soul save with what He has given him. God will assuredly appoint, after difficulty, easiness." Surah 65:7
"they give food, for the love of Him, to the needy, the orphan, the captive; 'We feed you only for the Face of God; we desire no recompense from you, no thankfulness." Surah 76:8-9
Surah72 1 month ago
We are to be charitable in both deeds and in spending: Surah 2:276, 12:88, 33:35, 57:18
“Those who spend in ease as well as in straitness, and those who restrain anger and pardon men; and Allah loves the doers of good.” Surah 3:134
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
92:18 Who gives his wealth, purifying himself. Is this money, skills, goods, deeds, what?
"WAGE: A fixed regular payment, typically paid on a daily or weekly". How do you give deeds as a fixed regular payment? How do you give 2.5% in deeds? What if you don’t have a harvest, what then? The prophet’s wives were told to stay inside their houses (33:33). So what wage could they pay? There’s no mention of zakaa in 6:141
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Where is 2.5% mentioned in the Quran, much less by me? Strawman is worst rhetoric.
I don't have an agricultural harvest, but my payday is where the fruit of my work is paid.
The spouses receive dowry. Their zakat comes from what they are given. Surah 4:25
You ignore "and pay the due thereof on the day of its harvest" in Surah 6:141.
You can bring nothing to support your beliefs, and continue to mock Allah's revelation.
I am clear of what you do.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
there is no mention of 2.5% in Al-Quran, The so-called muslim world has determined this. This is why I stated from the outset, that there is no obligatory ritual monetary fee in Deen Al-Islam. You, likewise, pay a ritual monetary fee every pay period of 1/5. You are doing a ritual. Zakaa is to purify one's salaa (allegiance/service to Allah), but that service/allegiance is not a ritual.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
You are more than welcome to believe you are not to spend out of what Allah provides.
You are more than welcome to uphold teachings outside of Allah's revelation.
Proof is given from the Quran showing the example of the Prophet and what Allah asks of us.
You reject this, and seek to be miserly, withholding your hands. That is your choice.
But you cannot say you were not given reminder or warned.
To you are your deeds, to me are mine. :)
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
“Behold! you are those who are called upon to spend in Allah's way, but among you are those who are miserly, and whoever is miserly is miserly against his own soul; and Allah is Self-sufficient and you have need, and if you turn back He will bring in your place another people, then they will not be like you.” Surah 47:38
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72 You are doing a ritual, it’s no straw man. 1. Did I miss quote you when you said that you give 1/5 of your money every week? If not, then the straw man accusation is inaccurate. 2. Allah never tells us to follow the example of the Prophet, but to follow the example of the Messenger. There is a major difference in the two capacities. Do you know the difference? 3. Where do you get PBUH from? That’s not in Al-Quran, that’s from the hadith of the so-called muslims. Agreed?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Did the Prophet give 1/5 of the windfalls to the poor and needy? Yes.
Are we to spend out of what Allah provides? Yes.
Are we to spend out of the abundance? Yes.
Are we to spend at the time of harvest? Yes.
All of this is in the Quran.
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and is called the Prophet and the Messenger by Allah. Yet here you are now striving to say we are not to follow the example of Muhammad.
I seek refuge in Allah from the whispers of deceivers.
Peace
Surah72 1 month ago
Muhammad (pbuh) is called by Allah the Messenger and the Prophet: Surah 7:157-158, 9:61, 33:40, 33:53
In order to know what is in the Quran, you have to read (iqra) the Quran.
This is what happens when you follow the sayings (hadith) of men, instead of studying the Quran as Allah commands.
You follow nothing but conjecture, and bring no proof from the Quran to support why you believe what you believe. This is why I leave you be.
You were given reminder and warned.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
Post the ayat where Allah says to follow the prophet or follow "Muhammad" and you prove your assertion. The following proves my point:
33:21 Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent exemplar for him who hopes in Allah and the Latter day, and remembers Allah much.
8:20 O you who believe, obey Allah and His Messenger and turn not away from Him while you hear.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
"Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet of the common folk, whom they find written down with them in the Torah and the Gospel, bidding them to honour, and forbidding them dishonor, making lawful for them the good things and making unlawful for them the corrupt things, and relieving them of their loads, and the fetters that were upon them. Those who believe in him and succor him and help him, and follow the light that has been sent down with him -- they are the prosperous.'
Surah72 1 month ago
Surah 7:157
Surah72 1 month ago
Say: 'O mankind, I am the Messenger of God to you all, of Him to whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and of the earth. There is no god but He. He gives life, and makes to die. Believe then in God, and in HIS MESSENGER, THE PROPHET of the common folk, who believes in God and His words, AND FOLLOW HIM; haply so you will be guided.' Surah 7:158
You only prove you do not read what is shown. I have posted this already.
You are only here to waste my time.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
You keep saying this :"In order to know what is in the Quran, you have to read (iqra) the Quran", but you don't folow it yourself:
2:44 Do ye enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget to practise it yourselves, and yet ye study the Scripture? Will ye not understand?
Where do you get PBUH, from? It's not in Al-Quran. Please answer this, thanks.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Misdirection. Another form of poor rhetoric.
Bid peace upon the Prophets of Allah: Surah 27:1, 33:56, 37:108-130
"God and His angels bless the Prophet. O believers, do you also bless him, and pray him peace." Surah 33:56
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
This ayat is even better, because it say to obey both Allah and the Messenger:
5:92 And obey Allah and obey the Messenger and be cautious; but if you turn back, then know that only a clear deliverance of the message is (incumbent) on Our Messenger
Please provide your ayat proof to follow/obey "Muhammad" or the prophet.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Again, Surah 7:157-158 state what you ask for, as shown below.
Again, you prove you are here to waste my time as you are not reading what is posted.
I seek refuge in Allah.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
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PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@Surah72
You said: This is what happens when you follow the sayings (hadith) of men, instead of studying the Quran as Allah commands.
Where does Allah reveal PBUH? Where does Allah say follow/obey "Muhammad" or follow the prophet? This comes from so-called muslim hadiths. Do you concede this point? Allah is witness here.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
This is shown below, but will you pay heed?
You make a mockery of Allah's revelation, and uphold conjecture.
You bring no proof to support why you believe what you believe.
You only bring writings of men and your own explanation.
Explanation is not proof.
Bring your proof. Surah 2:111, 6:57, 8:42, 14:10, 21:24, 27:64, 28:75, 52:38
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
No rituals of any kind in Deen Al-Quran. No PBUH in Al-Quran. No follow/obey "Muhammad" in Al-Quran. No follow/obey the Prophet in Al-Quran.
Just obey the Messenger. Discern the difference between these terms. Allah did not choose them for nothing.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
To you are your deeds, to me are mine.
You have brought nothing to refute what is shown.
You have brought no proof to support why you believe what you believe.
You are proven wrong as to what the Quran upholds numerous times.
I am to believe you are rightly guided... why?
Pass by nobly, do not sit with them: Surah 4:140, 6:68, 25:63, 28:55
You cannot say you were not given reminder or warned.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
@Surah72
The term for blessing is baraka not salaa. Baraka is not 33:56, hence, there are no “blessings” being sent upon the prophet. Salaa, as you must know, does not mean ritual prayer. So, no, there is no PBUH in Al-Quran. Try again.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@Surah72
Let's do it this way:
1. Is there anywhere in Al-Quran where Allah had to correct the Prophet on his behavior? yes or no
2. Is there anywhere in Al-Quran where Allah had to correct the Messenger on his behavior? yes or no
Perhaps this wil help you understand the difference in these two designations
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@Surah72
66:1 O Prophet! why do you forbid that which Allah has made lawful for you; you seek to please your wives; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Allah had to correct the Prophet’s behavior on a matter of law! The prophet, then, could make mistakes. If the Prophet could make mistakes, then the Message/Al-Quran, would be in doubt! This is why Allah says to obey the Messenger and not obey the Prophet, because there are no mistakes in the Message! Messenger=Message. Get it?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Now you have a problem.
According to you, there is a difference between Muhammad being a Messenger and a Prophet. Yet in Surah 7:157-158, Allah states to follow *him*. Allah does not distinguish between the two.
Your problem gets worse with your Quranist hadith because the example of the MESSENGER in Surah 8:1, 8:41 is to give 1/5th of the abundance to the poor and needy.
You withhold your hands and are miserly. That's your choice. You were warned.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
CAPACITY: specified role or position.
When “Muhammad” called people to gather (jumaa) so that he could recite Al-Quran/The Message to them, he was in the capacity of the Messenger. After he delivered the Message he would then be in the capacity of a man/prophet. While acting in the capacity of the Messenger he could make no mistake, however, in the capacity of a man/prophet he could (66:1).
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Misdirection and strawman that creates another problem by your Quranist hadith.
Allah states to follow the Prophet. Surah 8:64
Allah also states follow *him*, while calling Muhammad a Prophet and a Messenger in the same ayats. Allah does not make distinction; Allah states clearly to follow the Prophet and the Messenger. Surah 7:157-158
Muhammad did not invent any sayings. Surah 69:40-48
You say about Allah that which you know not. Surah 7:32-33
Surah 14:30
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
Isn’t it true that only Allah guides? Now look at 13:7
13:7 …. you art only a warner and for every people a guide.
So, is “Muhammad” a guide along with Allah? Of course not, that would be shirk. The ayat is pointing out “Muhammad” was seen as guide by his people, because he followed the guidance, however, it was NOT his duty to guide.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
The Quran is the revelation of Allah, the word (qawl) of an honored Messenger (pbuh). Surah 69:40-43, 81:19
Only in the Quran do you find Muhammad's words. Allah does not reveal to Himself. Surah 6:145
The Quran is the guidance sent for all nations, all beings. Surah 3:108, 6:90, 12:104, 21:107, 25:1, 38:87, 68:52, 81:27, 34:28, 7:158, 33:40, 4:170, 47:33, 4:80, 61:9, 21:107, 4:79-80
Without Allah revealing to Muhammad, we would not have the Quran.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
Allah does not command the believers to follow “Muhammad”, but they followed him because he followed Allah’s guidance. Ayat 8:64 is telling us that Allah was sufficient for the prophet and the believers.
10:35 Say: Is there any of your associates who guides to the truth? Say: Allah guides to the truth. Is He then Who guides to the truth more worthy to be followed, or he who himself does not go aright unless he is guided? What then is the matter with you; how do you judge?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
To "follow" the prophet" is to follow the hadith books i.e. Bukhari, Muslim, fiqh, etc.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
To follow the Prophet is to follow the Quran.
You are striving to uphold a strawman and have no proof from the Quran to support your statement.
Only in the Quran do you have the words of Muhammad (pbuh), as Allah commanded him to speak.
Who is speaking in Surah 27:91? There is no 'Say' statement; Allah does not serve Himself. Muhammad is only repeating what Allah has told him to say.
You have nothing to bring as proof.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
"O PROPHET, God suffices thee, and the believers WHO FOLLOW THEE." Surah 8:64
No where in this ayat does Allah state follow the Messenger.
Allah calls Muhammad 'Prophet' then states those who follow him. Following the Prophet Muhammad.
Peace be upon all the Prophets of Allah.
You have nothing to refute what is shown.
You bring no proof, only your own explanation and Lexicons - sayings of men, hadith.
I believe you are accursed. Surah 17:102, 14:30, 4:56
This conversation is over.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
SURAH: “Only in the Quran do you have the words of Muhammad (pbuh), as Allah commanded him to speak… Only in the Quran do you find Muhammad's words. Allah does not reveal to Himself.”
No, you have the Words/Kalima OF Allah in Al-Quran. It’s the prophet’s SPEECH, but it’s the WORDS of Allah.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
SURAH: To follow the Prophet is to follow the Quran.
No, Surah, to follow Allah is to follow Al-Quran.
6:106 Follow that which is revealed to thee from thy Lord…
Look what the Messenger says in:
10:15… I follow naught but what is revealed to me…
What was revealed to the Messenger were the KALIMA/WORDS of Allah.
10:82 Allah will show The Truth to be The Truth by His Words.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
Look at 7:157-Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel. Now look at the Deut. 18:18-19
DEUT. 18:18-19 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put MY WORDS words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto MY WORDS which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
You obey Allah by obeying the Messenger.
By obeying what Muhammad taught, you follow Allah's revelation.
As you strive to make the Bible your guidance by using it to interpret the Quran, you again use your Quranist hadith to create a problem in your doctrine.
The Quran was written during the time of Muhammad: Surah 29:48, 96:4, 68:1, 80:11-16
Muhammad arranged the Quran according to Allah’s will: Surah 75:16-17, 16:101-102, 25:32
Surah72 1 month ago
Throughout the Quran we are told to obey Allah and obey the Messenger.
The sum total of Allah's revelation and the word of an honored Messenger is the Quran. To follow anything else and you will be led astray.
Obey (AteeAAoo) Allah and obey the Messenger: Surah 3:32, 3:50, 3:100, 3:132, 3:149, 4:13, 4:34, 4:46, 4:59, 4:69, 5:7, 5:92, 6:116, 6:121, 8:1, 8:20-21, 8:46, 9:71, 17:52, 20:90, 23:34, 24:47, 24:51-56, 26:108-110, 26:126, 26:131, 26:144, 26:150
Surah72 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Allah even warned you about following the teachings of the folk of the Book. Is it the judgment of pagandom that you seek? Surah 5:48-50
You brought no proof from the Quran to support why you believe what you believe.
Your Quranist hadith are refuted time and time again by the pure, protected ayats from the Quran.
You cannot answer the initial claims, so you misdirect to another strawman.
This is why I believe you are accursed. Surah 17:102
Enjoy this life.
Peace.
Surah72 1 month ago
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PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
We are NOT discussing who it is revealed to, but WHOSE WORDS were REVEALED.
It’s Allah’s Words and the speech of the prophet “Muhammad”.
Without Allah revealing to the prophet, we would not have the Quran.
You still continue to duck and runaway from my question...what are you afraid of. Calling me names will not help your case. Again, did the prophet make a mistake in judgement in ayat 66:1...yes or no?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
No where in Surah 66:1 does it state the Prophet made a mistake in judgment.
"O Prophet, why forbiddest thou what God has made lawful to thee, seeking the good pleasure of thy wives? And God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate." Surah 66:1
Allah made sure the Prophet knew absolution of oaths was allowed. Surah 66:2
This has nothing to do with a mistake in judgment, but with Allah clarifying that which is allowed and the secret council of his *wives*. Surah 66:4
Surah72 1 month ago
You pick out one ayat to suit your purpose, and no where in the Quran does Allah differentiate in the capacity of Muhammad. You cannot show anywhere in the Quran where Allah states the Prophet has a different role than as a Messenger.
Again, you bring Lexicons and hadith of Quranists instead of proof from the Quran.
You are called no names, I only state my belief - judging by what Allah revealed - based on the falsehood you teach. You follow falsehood, not Allah's revelation. Surah 47:3
Surah72 1 month ago
Muhammad (pbuh) forbid himself from the wife of a stepson after she was divorced, when this was allowed. Surah 33:37-40
"Muhammad is not the father of any one of your men, but the Messenger of God, and the Seal of the Prophets; God has knowledge of everything." Surah 33:40
Surah72 1 month ago
SURAH: Oh but we are discussing who the Quran was revealed to...Without Allah revealing to Muhammad, we would not have the Quran.
We don’t have an argument about this, Surah.
SURAH: It is the speech of Muhammad that was written down; his speech that spoke the words Allah commanded him to say.
Nooo, it was the WORDS of Allah that were written down.
SURAH: his speech that spoke the words Allah commanded him to say.
LOL! That’s what I said. Speech and words are different things.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
@PRIESTBOKMEI1
Now you have a problem.
You state: It was the words of Allah that were written down.
Howdoes the speech (qwol) of Allah's Messenger play a part?
Allah states clearly it is the word (qwol) of an honored Messenger - speaking about Muhammad.
The answer from the Quran was given earlier. Insha'Allah, you will finally read the proofs I give you from the Quran, by the leave of Allah, instead of ignoring them.
You continue to bring nothing but explanation, no proof.
Surah72 1 month ago
SURAH: How does the speech (qwol) of Allah's Messenger play a part? Allah states clearly it is the word (qwol) of an honored Messenger - speaking about Muhammad.
You contradict yourself. Does qala mean speech or word? Which one? I’ll answer for you because you don’t know. Qala means speech and kalima is word. Thus, it is the SPEECH of an honored Messenger and the WORDS of Allah.
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago
SURAH: So why do you turn to the collection of Books called 'The Bible' to explain the Quran?
Let me ask you a question…why do you think Allah revealed ayat 7:157? Was it just vanity on His part to do this or did He want the readers to see how the Last Prophet and Messenger of Allah was long ago predicted to come? Ayat 7:157 is citing Deut.18:19 and Deut.18-19 then sends the reader right back to Al-Quran for their guidance. No Bible teachings being followed. Get it, now?
PRIESTBOKMEI1 1 month ago